#Rougesareth deck building

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compact trout
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its not bad but I prefer tom or book

timid marten
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Could do like Uncle Istvan

compact trout
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thats true

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he has protection from creature

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it would be a grumpy old man vibe

timid marten
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He's a retired cartographer

compact trout
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haha

timid marten
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[[daughter of autumn]]

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timid marten
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[[autumn willow]]

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timid marten
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[[ragnar]] LMFAO

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compact trout
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hahaha

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what a man

crude crater
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[[C.A.M.P]]

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Artifact — Fortification
Whenever fortified land is tapped for mana, put a +1/+1 counter on target creature you control. If that creature shares a color with the mana that land produced, create a Junk token. (It's an artifact with "manat, Sacrifice this token: Exile the top card of your library. You may play that card this turn. Activate only as a sorcery.")
Fortify mana3 (mana3: Attach to target land you control. Fortify only as a sorcery.)

compact trout
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I would lose taxi driver

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If I went with ragnar

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I have camp and a million other fallout cards in my considering

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I didnt want thtem to take over

crude crater
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Ah ok

compact trout
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I do have two slots open right now, could be camp

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I cut all the legendary creatures

timid marten
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[[angus mackenzie]]

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compact trout
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thank god we're still curving

timid marten
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lol, it's a miracle

compact trout
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But if we go with angus we lose taxi driver 🙁

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its so sad

timid marten
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[[taxi driver]]

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timid marten
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damn

compact trout
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That one is so good

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I can lose jackhammer/chainsaw, but taxi driver?

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Cant cut green (obviously, our hero) or white. I think we're Naya minimum

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White has [[rent is due]]

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compact trout
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[[rin and seri, ins]]

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Legendary Creature — Dog Cat
Whenever you cast a Dog spell, create a 1/1 green Cat creature token.
Whenever you cast a Cat spell, create a 1/1 white Dog creature token.
manarmanagmanaw, manat: Rin and Seri deals damage to any target equal to the number of Dogs you control. You gain life equal to the number of Cats you control.
4/4

compact trout
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dog cat

timid marten
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[[j jonah jameson]]

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compact trout
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Thats a man

timid marten
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Just some guy

compact trout
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I think the dog cat might actually be a hilarious choice

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I still think I dont want to include legends in the 99

timid marten
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[[lara croft, tomb raider]] too

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Legendary Creature — Human Ranger
First strike, reach
Whenever Lara Croft attacks, exile up to one target legendary artifact card or legendary land card from a graveyard and put a discovery counter on it. You may play a card from exile with a discovery counter on it this turn.
Raid — At end of combat on your turn, if you attacked this turn, create a Treasure token.
3/4

compact trout
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Lara could be good

timid marten
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tomb raiding is too exotic though

compact trout
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Yeah

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And no rent is due is so sad

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[[johan]]

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compact trout
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[[jacques le vert]]

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timid marten
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[[commander mustard]]

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compact trout
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Mr mustard

timid marten
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Dang, not in white

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[[gau feral youth]]

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compact trout
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oh gau

timid marten
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[[sierra, nuka's biggest fan]] lol

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compact trout
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This could be a real person

timid marten
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It's just an instagrammer

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[[elena, turk recruit]] is just a lady ijn a suit

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compact trout
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Elena is so normal she looks like a card from a different set lmao

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Or from FFXV

timid marten
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Can't believe I've looked through 1800 legendaries

compact trout
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lmao

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I feel that

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I literally scrollled through every card in like 8 sets

timid marten
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[[generous pup]]

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timid marten
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so cute

compact trout
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So cute

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Cuter than a little chat for sure

azure quiver
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👀

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whats the topic/deck

compact trout
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I like collaborating with people too

compact trout
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I got a new one, anyone got any suggestions? Its a bit of a mercenary tribal thing, with a little secret commander cloud action. Weird deck, so suggestions welcomed

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Hmm

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yay

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I wish my stupid secret commander and all his dumb tutor targets weren't so many $$$

compact trout
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PLaying the deck for the first time, quite fun so far

compact trout
stark totem
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I'll take a look when I get home!

stark totem
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Ooooh good, The Temporal Anchor made the cut!

compact trout
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a card with an impact, wooO!

stark totem
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This does appear to lack a win con

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Is the secret that [[Elrond, Master of Healing]] can get you there?

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compact trout
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I think thats part of it

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Both elronds, the elf maker guy

stark totem
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I see

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welp, you can play it against my new Bracket 1 deck and we can see if anyone wins the game before we all deck ourselves

compact trout
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LMAO

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This one ended up so LOTR themed

hidden light
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How is Cloud a secret?

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My thing just jumped ahead several days

compact trout
hidden light
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There are so many ways to tutor for mercs. They're fun

compact trout
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The deck is super fun, mercs are great now

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The 1 black merc tutor is one of the most pushed tutors in the game too

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@hidden light has you or your husband built mercs by any chance? If so im curious what your take would be

hidden light
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I sort of built Mercs

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But it was more outlaws really

compact trout
compact trout
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@vagrant remnant @stark totem @crystal cliff feel free to ignore me if you dont want to be pinged, I figured it doesnt hurt to send out the bat signal a bit

vagrant remnant
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signal received ^^

compact trout
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As is normal I have a pretty big considering board to peruse lol

crystal cliff
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Oh hello

compact trout
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Hi there

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I did say I would ping you next time I was working on something thematic

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I am LOST on this one lmao

vagrant remnant
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u going with mycosynth lattice?

compact trout
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I got encroaching in there, im considering lattice

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Lattice is a spoopy card

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I dont really like being #ThatGuy

vagrant remnant
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🙂

compact trout
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I think I took the wrong approach with interaction, im just cutting it all

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Im probably gonna cut like 40 cards

vagrant remnant
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if u would u could focus on hakbal being your shadow commander with lattice/halo fountain being the hidden wincon (but really the main one)

compact trout
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I want to be playing to the board for sure

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I dont have the consistency ( and I wont in this deck) to be relying on hakbal

compact trout
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I think I just need things to do one random turns that actually matter lmao

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Not like huge plays

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idk man

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I dont know about the lords

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Thats one thing

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I like the vibe, but tbh they dont actually do that much

vagrant remnant
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nah, lords in mine are filler basicly aswell.

compact trout
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But I also feel like why am I playing merfolk if im not putting 2/2s in play

vagrant remnant
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def put mist dancer in the main deck

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or wonder

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u'll be vurnerable to flyers

compact trout
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Oh thats nice

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More things to bin for value is good

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Mist dancer is sick

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Plus its a bomb, which I wanted

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[[vodalian wave-knight is pretty good]] if im attacking

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vagrant remnant
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just wanted to ask u how reliably u can put +1+1 counters on your creatures

compact trout
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Not the most

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Though I could probably use more card draw regardless

vagrant remnant
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cause if u did, i'd would open possibilities: mutational advantage. inspiring call, herald of secret dreams

compact trout
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I unironically think some of these random explore merfolk might be better than my lords

crystal cliff
vagrant remnant
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ye, explore really ties in with your commander

compact trout
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Its supposed to be sort of the spirit of lorwyn merfolk

crystal cliff
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Gotcha so like a [[summon the school]] kinda vibe

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compact trout
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And as i've built it the deck has been moving down in power level tbh, I think it might actually be in the summon the school bracket at this point

vagrant remnant
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triumph of the hordes... if u wanna be that guy ;D

compact trout
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I do not

vagrant remnant
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figured ^^ had to suggest it tho ^^

compact trout
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I have my big win condition already

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😛

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Im happy with the one

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Oh should I run [[millenium calendar]] lol

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compact trout
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I have a whole calendar package im considering

vagrant remnant
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[[Vorel of the hull clade]]

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compact trout
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Vorel is cool, but what am I doing with it

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Oh calender

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Hmmmmmm

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HMMM

vagrant remnant
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if u would rock millenium ^^

compact trout
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Yeah maybe I should be

vagrant remnant
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[[kioras follower]]

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compact trout
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I probably also need at least some way to bin my commander lmao

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Follower I have

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Apparently I was already playing vorel lol

crystal cliff
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The calendar is loosely on brand with merfolk, since Ixalan

compact trout
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Ooh thats true

vagrant remnant
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and u are playing merrow reejery to

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u could trigger that calender easely lol

crystal cliff
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Would [[betrayal]] be worth a slot or too minor?

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crystal cliff
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Oh Oop

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Opponent, misremembered

compact trout
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If I could put that on my creaure that would be SICK

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Im in the business for any tap synergy really

vagrant remnant
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i see Kumena, tyrant of orazca in your maybe list

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i'd put that main board

compact trout
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[[kumena, tyrant of ora]]

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compact trout
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Oh this guy

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Its all three drops I swear to god

vagrant remnant
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merfolks are cheap ^^

compact trout
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[[deeproot historian]] is probably worth a slot

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compact trout
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You know tatyova is a merfok? Thats pretty funny

vagrant remnant
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yup, its in the 99 of the precon

compact trout
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Ive seen her enough though

crystal cliff
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Thoughts on [[wakethrasher]]?

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compact trout
crystal cliff
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It’s not crazy but depending on your level of shenanigans it can be quite beefy

compact trout
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Its always underperforms and dies for me though

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But hes a house

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Its probably worth it just as a big blocker here

crystal cliff
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[[well rested]] thoughts?

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compact trout
crystal cliff
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It’s not just your turn as well

compact trout
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I run like 8 untap effects

crystal cliff
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If you’re in full shenanigans mode

compact trout
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Holy crap

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Thats good

crystal cliff
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And the flavor is broad enough to not feel off

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It’s just getting a good snooze

compact trout
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I like fallout mechanically so much I just ignore the dogwater set symbol and weird vibes

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Plus I like the IP

crystal cliff
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I just like fallout so I’m usually in mind of it

vagrant remnant
compact trout
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Enchantment — Room
Creature spells you cast have convoke. (Your creatures can help cast those spells. Each creature you tap while casting a creature spell pays for mana1 or one mana of that creature's color.)
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

Prop Room mana2manaw
Enchantment — Room
Untap each creature you control during each other player's untap step.
(You may cast either half. That door unlocks on the battlefield. As a sorcery, you may pay the mana cost of a locked door to unlock it.)

vagrant remnant
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that helps ^^

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i'd replace all the non-merfolk things like wylie

compact trout
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Thoughts on [[harvest season]]? I dont think this deck wants a lot of ramp, but this could be splashy

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compact trout
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I thought I had got them all

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[[drumbellower]] is a tough cut god damn

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compact trout
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jk its 3 mana, its easy

crystal cliff
compact trout
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Also emry fuckign sucks in this deck

vagrant remnant
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any reason for mirror entity?

compact trout
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Its a good merfolk

crystal cliff
compact trout
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Yeah thats a really good point

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Upping my basic count isnt exactly a bad idea though

crystal cliff
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Tocasia makes it not super necessary but if you want more sources of easy tapping there’s the spacecraft. They’re not very merfolk but they are kinda tocasia as alien artifacts.

compact trout
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Im not sure which spacecraft would fit

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The academy one I dont have enough artifacts for

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Let me see

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Oh there's [[the seriema]] of course

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Legendary Artifact — Spacecraft
When The Seriema enters, search your library for a legendary creature card, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
Station (Tap another creature you control: Put charge counters equal to its power on this Spacecraft. Station only as a sorcery. It's an artifact creature at 7+.)
STATION 7+
Flying
Other tapped legendary creatures you control have indestructible.
5/5

crystal cliff
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Dawnsire or broodship are simplest probably

compact trout
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I actually dont really hate a station here

crystal cliff
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Sereima good but I didn’t remember your legendary count

compact trout
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Its something to do with my excess power

crystal cliff
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[[lumen frigate]] also an easy include

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compact trout
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Thats true

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Its basically a merfok, right?

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Right?

crystal cliff
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Since it starts doing something early

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It’s Tocasias ship

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Naturally

compact trout
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Oh true

crystal cliff
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She arrived on fish planet in it lol

compact trout
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So smart

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She's just down there taking notes

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OH GOD

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She's the researcher from the amber spyglass that gets stranded on the alien world

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Mary Malone

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my queen

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This is so good

vagrant remnant
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[[unstoppable plan]]

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vagrant remnant
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nvm, u already have it ^^

compact trout
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This is basically a merfolk

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Holy shit

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Mary and the Mulefa

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Fucking heat

compact trout
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Okay so i've noticed that I dont have very much interaction lol

vagrant remnant
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rivers rebuke?

compact trout
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Commandersalt thinks im in B1 now lol

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Not that I put much salt in that

compact trout
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Very nice

vagrant remnant
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the earth crystal

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also nice

compact trout
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Hedge shredder is cool here but im not sure its on theme

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[[hedge shredder]]

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compact trout
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Its not so bad I guess

vagrant remnant
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in theme: [[Reverse the polarity]]

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compact trout
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I havent seen this

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Makes me want to play uh

vagrant remnant
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err oops

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[[Wave goodbye]]

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compact trout
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[[silvergill douser]]

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vagrant remnant
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i ment that one

compact trout
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Oh

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I still kind of want to play silvergill douser

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Wave goodbye looks pretty nice, especially since I upped the explore amount

vagrant remnant
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ye, i use it in mine, its basicly a board wipe

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for anyone but me ^^

compact trout
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crystal cliff
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Sorta strange one but [[breaking wave]]

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vagrant remnant
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ah nice lol

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fits the theme tho ^^

compact trout
vagrant remnant
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[[ripples of potential]]

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Instant
Proliferate, then choose any number of permanents you control that had a counter put on them this way. Those permanents phase out. (To proliferate, choose any number of permanents and/or players, then give each another counter of each kind already there. Treat phased-out permanents and anything attached to them as though they don't exist until their controller's next turn.)

compact trout
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Damn I really missed out in this set

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I didnt play during this block

vagrant remnant
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its the standard precon these came in

crystal cliff
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I like that wave is water themed and it definitely could do some funky stuff for you

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Like open someone for a kill after you tap all your fish

compact trout
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Yeah thats what im envisioning

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Im hanging out, assembling lords, and then I can swing in after a tap out

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Im really liking this emerging water theme

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[[prime speaker zagana]] might be worth considering

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vagrant remnant
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completely against the theme of your deck but i love the card [[days undoing]]

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compact trout
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That card is awesome

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I just put it in a very different B4 deck lol

vagrant remnant
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and if u want cheap mana (as in money) [[growing rites of itlimoc]]

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No card found for “growing rites of otli”

compact trout
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True

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The budget cradle I always forget about lol

crystal cliff
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Funny but not really on brand is [[centaur omenreader]]

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compact trout
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It was in the initial build before I started swapping to the merfolk theme

crystal cliff
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How do you feel about [[collective effort]]

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vagrant remnant
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hmm nice card, didnt know that one

compact trout
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Seems interesting

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I like that its modal interaction in a deck thats probably not going to be the most "responsible" lol

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And im developing a bit of a +1/+1 counter subtheme after some of these additions I think

vagrant remnant
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dont underestimate it, i build around it with doublers. i usually get around +10+10 per creature per combat

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and they're all unblockable ^^

crystal cliff
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I like that it triple plays as a boost for your board, a tapping source, and interaction against two card types

compact trout
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Yeah same

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And having spell that specifically kill high power threats is something I value pretty highly

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Becauuse its always that guy with a korvold or whatever

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Do we like [[splendid reclamation]], or similar? Im a bit on the fence about it

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vagrant remnant
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with the mana cost in your deck being what it is.. doubt u'll need it.

compact trout
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Yeah true

vagrant remnant
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nice if u keep mirror entity tho

crystal cliff
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I think it’s okay but not needed badly

compact trout
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I literally just cut mirror entity lmao

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But im still on the fence about it

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I think [[hedge shredder]] is better than reclamation tbh

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crystal cliff
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If you want a weird suggestion, [[faces of the past]] is something I never found a home for

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vagrant remnant
compact trout
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That have been trying to figure out a use for...

crystal cliff
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A deck where the simple act of tapping and untapped is valuable might be viable

compact trout
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Yeah it really might be good here

crystal cliff
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Since you’ve trimmed the non fish

vagrant remnant
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i know its an expensive card but imagine that budget cradle + [[bristly bill, spine sower]]

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compact trout
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I have no sac outlet to make it really go off, but even just as a reward for losing a creature it seems okay

crystal cliff
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The other aspect of it is, that it’s symmetrical

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Which might really throw some opponents off

compact trout
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Yeah it might

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I love old whacky three mana enchantments that mess people up too

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Like [[invasion plans]]

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crystal cliff
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Old weird enchantments from the era I started in have a soft spot in my heart

vagrant remnant
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ye, thats a nasty enchantment

compact trout
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I think I might cut top to save budget for some more unique cards

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Though no doubt its solid here

vagrant remnant
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[[taunting elf]] my favorite elf

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compact trout
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I played taunting elf in legacy

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I still have my playset

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in two different decks what is wrong with me

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Elves and stompy

vagrant remnant
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in any case: i'm out of ideas for your deck and my bed is calling, gnight ^^

compact trout
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Night delrin, thanks for the help you've been great

crystal cliff
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I can’t remember and it’s a lot of scrolling now, was [[halo fountain]] in consideration

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compact trout
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Thats a core win con

crystal cliff
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Gotcha

compact trout
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Ive actually never played with this card before this deck, but I think someone from commander chat pitched me on it

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This seems like the right home to me

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Im trying to cut down to 100, im still not sure about the lords tbh

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I think they're probably not worth cutting until I see how it feels with all merfok

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But I do have fucking 47 creatures

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I kind of still think I should have at least ONE way to bin my commander, but a sac outlet is really super useful in any other situation

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Well I say that but I actually have a few other things that make sacrifice somewhat valuable

crystal cliff
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The last two cards I have to suggest tonight, especially since you’re looking to cut

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Are [[into flood maw]] partly for flavor partly for interaction

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crystal cliff
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And [[split up]] because it feels like a sweep you have an easy time making asymmetrical

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compact trout
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Oh I like both

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I think that puts me at exactly 100 actually

crystal cliff
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Oh cool

compact trout
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Thanks for the help by the way, clutch suggestions

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I just cut the generic lords and added those two

crystal cliff
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Happy to help

compact trout
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Now im at 100 flat

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Looks SO much better than before

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Oh my god

crystal cliff
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I’m super curious to hear what experiences you have with Faces of the Past in particular

compact trout
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I hope I get to play it

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I think I am a bit interesting in adding a sac outlet at some point in this deck's life for my commander and for faces and for a few of the merfolk, but for new I like it a lot. Its on the ground, its doing things, its flavorful

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Its wet

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Its green

hidden light
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I'm happy that I've finally been seeing other people get the Tocasia as a Bant merfolk commander idea

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Been thinking about it off and on for the last 2 years... #commander message

compact trout
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Its a really fun idea I think, I wouldnt mind seeing other people's takes on the concept if there are others

hidden light
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This is part of why my deck building spans years though sometimes

compact trout
hidden light
compact trout
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Mine is 100% merfolk in the type line now to fit the "anthropologist studying alien lifeform" theme but all the random tap synergy creatures are so neat

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I kind of want to make another tap synergy deck now

crystal cliff
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Formless Genesis is a based card

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Have it in Jenova for my mutants deck

hidden light
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I liked that spaceships synergized with the other part of her text

crystal cliff
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Yeah I suggested using a couple with her

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I think they’re a fun fit

hidden light
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Formless Genesis is one of my favorite cards from the last year

compact trout
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Its so cool idk how i missed it. After aida suggested spacecraft I definitely want to make room for more, probably elevator and the pew pew one

hidden light
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Everyone missed it. It was in the Winter precon

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It was reprinted in the EOE lands precon too

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Because insect subtheme + wanting lands in graveyards

compact trout
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I think retrace is generally an under loved mechanic

hidden light
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Retrace is a difficult to balance mechanic

crystal cliff
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I think people haven’t fully caught up to how strong it’s gotten thanks to all the land recursion coming out

hidden light
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But it's now just making my brain think about [[doc aurlok, grizzled]] bears deck with Lumra, Ayula etc.

gray sirenBOT
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No card found for “doc aurlok, grizzled”

hidden light
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Will put that discussion in my own thread rather than have it here, but figured would at least bring it up because it's related

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hidden light
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stark totem
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I guess the question if I'm looking at the deck is @compact trout what do you want me to look for?

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To clarify Rouge specifically tagged me to take a look at the deck which is why I commented

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I'm not just out here trolling for no reason

hidden light
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OK, and I'm sorry for the other comment

stark totem
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It's ok you gotta scroll up a long time to see the context, no way you'd have seen it!

timid marten
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I'm out here trolling for no reason

stark totem
timid marten
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Boy that's one late train

stark totem
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You know what, if the boss wanted me to be on time he'd have let me work from home!

timid marten
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Are there only 3 white merfolk in your deck rouge?

compact trout
compact trout
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I realized last night how many cool merfolk I missed on my first pass

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Its supposed to be very focused on the feeling of archeology and lorwyn merfolk overall

timid marten
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My humble opinion is that bant isn't really doing anything for you and basically nothing benefits from being tapped

compact trout
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I really like the white cards I do get to play like schoolmaster and halo fountain

stark totem
compact trout
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Its definitely an under supported archetype, but A. Thats okay and B. Lorwyn 2 is coming soon

stark totem
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Ok well my first thought is that running Tocasia without [[Tocasia's Dig Site]] is an instant flavor fail, how dare you sir for leaving out a colorless utility land in a 3 color deck with only 34 lands

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compact trout
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TRUE

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See, you get it

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I want all of your pet cards lmao

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I dont care where it ends up power wise, its closer to b1 than b3 IMO

stark totem
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A more useful tap synergy card that can go in the land slot is [[Scene of the Crime]]

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compact trout
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Oh that's cute

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I didn't even think about drum effects, and I could definitely use the fixing

stark totem
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I ran a bunch of drum effects in my The Ninth Doctor deck aka Christopher Deckleston before I took it apart

compact trout
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I added the rest of the white merfolk @timid marten i am up to6

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Lmao

timid marten
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lol

stark totem
timid marten
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I also guess I don't really understand the theme, so I'm going to stay out of it

compact trout
stark totem
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[[Arbiter of the Ideal]] was super fun in Phenax

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timid marten
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I'm so excited for lorwyn from the spoilers

compact trout
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I may be convinced to add the changelings back

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The idea is that tocasia gets stranded on an alien world and is stuck there researching the intelligent lifeform she finds

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Inspired by Mary Malone from amber spyglass

compact trout
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Should I have more generic tribal payoffs?

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Thats something that im a huge noob about

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Because i only started playing tribal again this year

crystal cliff
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They’re handy, I build a lot of kindred stuff and the generic options can be nice

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Depends on what you want that your type can use more of

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Cost reducers, anthems, etc

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[[kindred discovery]] is an easy dunk tho

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compact trout
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That one looks good, and I wanted more bombs

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I always debate door of destiny type effects, im not sure i need them here. Utility seems more.important

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Just cause im kind of a durdle deck

crystal cliff
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Right

compact trout
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Though the one that comes in with counters based on my current board could be a finisher

crystal cliff
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Blue opens some interesting generic ones you can consider

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[[distant melody]]

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crystal cliff
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[[raise palisade]]

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crystal cliff
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[[reflections liitjara]]

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compact trout
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Maybe i should add more white cards that why people dont question being bant (/s)

crystal cliff
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lol fair

compact trout
compact trout
crystal cliff
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[[harsh mercy]] kinda funny but it’s not a full sweep

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compact trout
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Im not about it tbh

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I play against too much tribal

crystal cliff
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[[kindred boon]] and [[radiant destiny]] are out there

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crystal cliff
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As well as several other generic kindred anthems

compact trout
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Radiant blessing is actually cute

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As a double duty anthem

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I dont actually mind white being a splash color, but that's worth considering for sure

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Reflection is powerful but its not my thing

crystal cliff
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Fair

compact trout
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crystal cliff
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Hmm, unfortunate

compact trout
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I can fit it here tbh

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I have room in the budget for a fun card that will live in my collection, but its a decision point

crystal cliff
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I also generally turn down cards above 5-10 dollars so I get it either way you go

compact trout
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Yeah I do the same

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Its a way for me to passively control the power of my deck in a small way while giving me a fun restriction to work around

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[[summon leviathan]] is cool

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Enchantment Creature — Saga Leviathan
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — Return each creature that isn't a Kraken, Leviathan, Merfolk, Octopus, or Serpent to its owner's hand.
II, III — Until end of turn, whenever a Kraken, Leviathan, Merfolk, Octopus, or Serpent attacks, draw a card.
Ward mana2
6/6

crystal cliff
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That it is

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The sea monster typal batching can’t come soon enough

compact trout
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It really should

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You know what deck i've started like 10 times?

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Sea monsters

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I keep making a deck, adding that two mana enchantment and then just not knowing what to do and deleting it

crystal cliff
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So very real

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I should make an attempt sometime

compact trout
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I think choosing the right subtheme is important

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if the hybrid changes go through I get to play the other sygg lmao

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[[bygone marvels is pretty cool]]

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No card found for “bygone marvels is pretty cool”

compact trout
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[[bygone marvels]]

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compact trout
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I want to find room for growing rites, search for azcanta, and [[twists and turns]] maybe

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Enchantment
If a creature you control would explore, instead you scry 1, then that creature explores.
When this enchantment enters, target creature you control explores.
When a land you control enters, if you control seven or more lands, transform this enchantment.

Mycoid Maze
Land — Cave
(Transforms from Twists and Turns.)
manat: Add manag.
mana3manag, manat: Look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal a creature card from among them and put that card into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.

compact trout
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Gonna call this 100

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Im happy

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I think ill put it off

compact trout
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Working on a new deck, I think its a pretty exciting concept. Im doing blue-red aggro with [[gut, true soul zealot]] and [[sword coast sailor]] as my commander. The idea is to play an earnest red beatdown plan, and to leverage blue's card draw via [[coastal piracy]] effects. I think blue also has some cool artifact synergy I can tap into, as well as token synergy perhaps.

P.S. [[aura thief]] is hot tech with gut.

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tawdry cave
compact trout
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I know right

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What's yours is mine

tawdry cave
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I saw the Memnarch conversation in chat earlier and now I want to build a Memnarch deck when I have time

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seems like it could be a pretty decent bracket 4 with enough mana

compact trout
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Yeah you can for sure

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Its definitely a good payoff in the command zone for a big blue deck

compact trout
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Aaaaand, im already over 100 cards

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So it goes

crystal cliff
timid marten
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wtf, aura thief is cool as hell

hidden light
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Note [[$aura thief]]

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hidden light
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It was higher, so that's at least gone back down

compact trout
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As long as everyone here stans aura thief

compact trout
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Still tuning a bit, im going to start playtesting now. I think the A. plan is looking really good, and I have a TON of interaction. Im looking to add a few cards that can help me close the door on a game, but im not sure where to look. Something with modality would be great cause I am an aggro deck

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Im liking the look

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Part of me thinks the white variation still sounds very fun so I might make two lists

compact trout
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This is my tentative 99 for this deck so far. So many decisions to make around the # of inclusions for different bending effects. Definitely hard to find space for interaction, card draw, ramp, and win conditions haha, especially wanting to do something a bit different as a win condition.

Overall I really like where its at. It can pop off really hard with a flipp avatar, and the win con of doubling his power and taking a bunch of combat steps is cute. We'll see if that remains my final choice.

I may make a higher bracket version with tutors very focused on moonmist, we will see. Either way, I am happy to have jumped through the bending hoops and explored the set https://moxfield.com/decks/zqVHu_lT70eplKyCvz3hRQ

compact trout
crude crater
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I made the suggestion knowing you had one lol

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Anyway [[Loot, Exuberant Explorer]]

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crude crater
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[[Sakiko, Mother of Summer]]

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crude crater
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[[Shizuko, Caller of Autumn]]

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compact trout
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I love Sakiko, I need to finish building snakes

compact trout
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Tunnels snakes rule btw

compact trout
dusty charm
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lmao

compact trout
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Come, brew with me

cursive forum
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[[helm of awakening]]

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compact trout
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Yeah I just added that

cursive forum
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[[conjurers bauble]] [[abundance]]

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dusty charm
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im actually very into storm looping with six into weather the storm and then the following turn cast aetherflux reservoir

compact trout
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Me too

dusty charm
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i think that's sick

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chatterstorm is notably also 2 mana

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so it also works on the loop

compact trout
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Chatterstorm is a good wheel spinning payoff too

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Yeah

dusty charm
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it just can't be any of the payoffs that are more than 2

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because you only ever get 2 mana as the max when you're looping

compact trout
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Yeah

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We also can benefit off a lot of payoff types

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Since we are playing cards, having lands come into play, and creatures going to play and grave

cursive forum
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are you going to run led?

dusty charm
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what bracket are we in

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if you're in 3 i don't know if you have gc space for LED

compact trout
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What pell said

cursive forum
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you should

compact trout
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Lets shoot for like

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B3 tournament quality

cursive forum
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I think led crop rot

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+1

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ez

compact trout
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LED is out of my budget anyways, its probably a good choice in general though

dusty charm
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you need cradle, you need ancient tomb you need crop rot?

compact trout
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Its our best combo outlet, basically our breach

cursive forum
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do you need tomb

dusty charm
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thinking

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maybe you don't?

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actually you probably want mox diamond

cursive forum
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you want led

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it goes infinite with everything

dusty charm
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you want LED but LED is $2000

compact trout
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Mox diamond or LED for sure, but I think its LED

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ALso its out of my budget

cursive forum
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print one

dusty charm
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very true

cursive forum
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I printed like 5

compact trout
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Lmao

cursive forum
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only use one lol

compact trout
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TBH I just dont play LED in this format

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Except in c

cursive forum
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its a cool card

dusty charm
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i think LED with Six is the funniest shit because like

compact trout
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Because I played ad naus tendrils in legacy

dusty charm
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im discarding the land anyway!

compact trout
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Ive just had my time with the card

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Im interested in playing with different, but also very fun cards

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LED is VERY fun

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Do we want any alternate mono green lines?

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Like selvala lines or yisan lines?

dusty charm
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maybe aftermath

compact trout
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Aftermath is in

cursive forum
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I think springheart nantuko arbor lines are fun

compact trout
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GSZ very good

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That card isnt a GC is it?

dusty charm
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nope

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just worldly and crop rot

cursive forum
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do you want ashaya + qurion and scryb?

compact trout
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Maybe

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We definitely want finale for chatterstorm

dusty charm
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oh

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dont forget your fucking concordant

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please

compact trout
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Oh true

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Actually

dusty charm
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if we're chatterstorming we cannot forget the 1 mana enchantment

compact trout
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Thats a good one here

cursive forum
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Personally I would find it really amusing if you had mazes end + 10 gates

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but I don't think that fits the power level

dusty charm
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can you get to 10 gates in monogreen

compact trout
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If you guys follow me on moxfield I can add you as editors so you can make changes

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I did 10 gates at this power level already

dusty charm
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i dont wanna be added if that's fine

compact trout
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Its my favorite deck, and I have it in paper

compact trout
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You dont need to, some people just like it

dusty charm
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yeah fair

compact trout
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idc either way

cursive forum
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are you willing to run earthcraft

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ive always wanted to run earthcraft + squirrel nest

compact trout
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haha

dusty charm
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also i keep forgetting we're monogreen and trying to suggest jyoti lines

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but you cannot run any of the blue cards that jyoti requires for its stuff

compact trout
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I love squirrel nest lines

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That's pretty b4 though

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Chromatic sphere is sweet here with our cost reduers

cursive forum
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waht about tyvar + devoted druid?

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it would also require 5 mana and a 5 power creature on board

compact trout
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I havent seen that before

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I like it

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I'm already running druid

dusty charm
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im big on tyvar devoted + 5 power creature

compact trout
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I like this a lot

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Foundry inspector goes infinite here with a lot of stuff

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Er

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[[scrap trawler]] I mean

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compact trout
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genesis chamber probably does something

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[[turntimber sower]] must too

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cursive forum
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[[titania protector]] [[ashaya soul]] [[vesuva]]

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cursive forum
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weird lumra esc loop

compact trout
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We should cut all win condition and do some really awful [[endurance loop]]

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compact trout
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Thats what Nadu did 😉

cursive forum
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Sounds good

compact trout
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dusty charm
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oh it's only $600

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nbd actually

compact trout
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I just added it anyways, we're gonna do a budgetless list

cursive forum
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Hell yeah

craggy thistle
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Ashaya + Badgermole Cub + Sylvan Safekeeper loops

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(I think?)

compact trout
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True

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Those three cards are definitely all in the deck

kindred pilot
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combos probly like aftermath analyst or lumra + mirrorpool would fit

craggy thistle
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Cub goes with Lotus Cobra and Springheart Nantuko as well. Though that is just lots of land I believe.

minor forge
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You finally made a thread

compact trout
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Ironically I started this thread working on the deck I finished TODAY

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Right before I started working on this, thats awesome

compact trout
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Up to 121 cards now, cuts time

craggy thistle
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Inkmoth Nexus (Blinkmoth/Mishra's Factory) + Lotus Cobra + Springheart Nantuko can also become infinite (tapped) lands.

kindred pilot
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dryad arbor can be used

compact trout
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Yeah i'm on arbor + springheart

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I also have cultivator colossus + abundance

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Tyvar + devoted druid

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Man green has a lot of combos

craggy thistle
compact trout
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I have a ton of six combos here too, mostly with LED or myr retriever type stuff

craggy thistle
compact trout
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Yeah

compact trout
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I cut ashaya, I think it was starting to steal the show

cursive forum
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Makes sense

compact trout
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First goldfish was a turn 4 win

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I have LED+Life from the loam + cycling land loop available, meaning I can flip my library and win

cursive forum
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Let's go

compact trout
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turn 4

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Turns out this these six lines are actually sick

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Its fun that most of my combos require six

cursive forum
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That's dope

compact trout
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Well, somehow I started another mono green combo project, this time mono green twiddling storm FEAT. An actual storm commander

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This one i intend to build in paper, since I ended up priced out of the last 3 green decks I made

compact trout
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Potential Pell tournament deck 😉

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I need assistance

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I have a lot going on here

dusty charm
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PO 😮

hidden light
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Open request for assistance or focused on the people you pinged?

compact trout
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So i've got a few lines going on here

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Tameshi goes infinite with several combinations of artifact lands and lotus blooms

hidden light
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I'm looking for cuts but worth knowing about [[Rescuer Chwinga]]

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compact trout
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Im still adding cards too, dont worry

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I like that this hits permanents

dusty charm
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Me too big fan

compact trout
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I'm going to cut a lot of the medium value creatures, i'd rather they be artifacts

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I think i'm fairly confident about my GC choices here

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I really like force+fierce in decks like these

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Currently ToR is taking a slot to combo with MoM, but that might be honestly too fast anyways

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So one of those cards probably needs cut

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MoM combos with double artifact land which is really cool

vital wing
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Do you want me looking at this list, as a prospective opponent?

compact trout
vital wing
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I wont use it to inform my decisions on deckbuilding but all info is a weapon for me haha

compact trout
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You're welcome to use that info

vital wing
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Ill finish my list, then look

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Im almost done anyways

compact trout
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So fast

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I'm not sure [[scapegoat]] is actually good here with my creature count, but boy do I want to play it

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compact trout
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Its probably still good, it doesnt need to do that much to be good

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I think my interaction suite is pretty solid, but I think i'd like to leverage my artifact tutors to have more of a toolbox if possible

hidden light
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But it was randomly in CLB

compact trout
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I think

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I said that a lot more confidently than I feel about it

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Still need 21 cuts, but its getting a lot more tidy looking

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Oh wait I think I still need a win condition

hidden light
compact trout
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[[fear of isolation]]

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compact trout
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[[kor skyfisher]]

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hidden light
compact trout
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Interesting

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Ambrosia can go in too for now

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Im curious if [[get out]] is actually good

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compact trout
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I think a way to untap the one ring would be kind of handy

hidden light
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There's the new bug

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Nm

compact trout
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Which one?

hidden light
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It just untaps creatures

compact trout
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dang

hidden light
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[[Sewer-veillance Cam]]

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compact trout
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Oh but this will be good in some of my decks for sure

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In Urianger for example

hidden light
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[[Corridor monitor]] would untap tor

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compact trout
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I'm trying to figure out if solve the equation and merchahnt scroll are worth it for mostly PO/force/whir too

compact trout
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It can untap my coveted jewel too

compact trout
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So i'm down to a rough 100 if anyone can take a look and give any thoughts

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compact trout
dusty charm
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am i also too stupid to see how this is winning the game

compact trout
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I forgot to add a win con still lmao

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Im making infinite mana

dusty charm
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LMAO

compact trout
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Thats the plan

dusty charm
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yeah i know you can pseudo-bomberman with tameshi and bloom

compact trout
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There's like a million lines

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Its pretty fun

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Tameshi+two artifacts lands+mind over matter for example

dusty charm
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just need like, a copy of blue sun's zenith?

compact trout
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Maybe an [[altar of the brood]]

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compact trout
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Since thats tutorable

dusty charm
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that works too

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looks very tight, i do worry about how fast we can get to infinite mana

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but like

compact trout
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I think there's probably some sort of clever conjurer's bauble loop I can come up with eventually

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I'm not sure how fast its gonna be either

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I have a few backup plans

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Mind over matter and displacer kitten are both good enough to carry a game

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The one ring is honestly my A plan I think

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Just like regular PO

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I think if i'm running oswald+repurposing bay I should run a 5 cmc artifact

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Im also considering cutting those two cards though

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First test is a turn 6 goldfish

dusty charm
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you could run nexus of becoming

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just a good value artifact and happens to cost 5

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[[nexus of becoming]]

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compact trout
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Its 6

dusty charm
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wrong one

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I MIX UP THE NAMES ON THESE TWO ALL THE FUCKING TIME AAAA

compact trout
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Do you mean [[ugin's nexus]]

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compact trout
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Because yeah

dusty charm
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no

compact trout
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

dusty charm
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i mean the fucking thing that makes blood clue or treasure

compact trout
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you lost me

dusty charm
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[[transmutation font]]

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dusty charm
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it's blood clue or food

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it also happens to be a tutor

compact trout
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Very decent

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Can make two tokens before it gets podded up to being a coveted jewel

dusty charm
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yep

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2 clues is like

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not nothing

compact trout
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Yeah

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Well and blood tokens are good too

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I have to get bloom into the yard sometimes

dusty charm
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other options are like, forsaken monument, throne of eldraine

compact trout
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[[forsaken monument]] [[throne of eldraine]]

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compact trout
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Zero percent monument

dusty charm
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wait do you have basalt in here because if so that one doesnt work lmao

compact trout
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No I dont

dusty charm
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oh good

compact trout
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Monolith combos are not B3 IMO

dusty charm
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correct

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they are not

compact trout
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There's so much stuff I want to make room for

dusty charm
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wasnt sure if you'd included it since you didnt have any other combo piece for it

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gilded lotus is also cmc5

compact trout
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Thats true

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Lotus might just be right

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But honestly throne naming blue is like, almost better

dusty charm
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artifact pod lets you pod into any artifact right

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not just noncreature?

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if so you could go into karn

compact trout
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Yeah

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Except arcum dagson

dusty charm
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[[karn legacy reforged]]

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dusty charm
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ah, yeah, arcum doesnt let you pod into karn

compact trout
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Hmmm

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I kind of want a few better 3 drop artifacts too so I can pod away my rocks and wellspring

dusty charm
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i mean at 3 you have access to like, midnight clock relic of legends

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trying to think what else

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statuary?

compact trout
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Foundry inspector

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~

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Basalt monolith lmao

dusty charm
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yeah i mean i was trying to look at noncreature

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oh wait hear me out here

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actually archaeomancer's map

compact trout
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Wait but hear me out basalt

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archeomancer's map actually I think would be great

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Lets try that

cursive forum
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[[charitable levy]]

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dusty charm
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i fully would try to go up a plains if so

compact trout
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I guess staff of domination could be good to as another way to convert off of infinite mana

compact trout
dusty charm
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we're looking for stuff to pod

cursive forum
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Pod?

compact trout
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[[oswald fiddlebender]]

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dusty charm
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[[repurposing bay]]

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cursive forum
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[[surveyors scope]]

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dusty charm
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we need another good 3cmc

compact trout
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I should be running KCI, eh

dusty charm
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so we can pod up to 3

cursive forum
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No

dusty charm
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i think kci makes this too fast actually

compact trout
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Scope actually could be good though

dusty charm
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probably

cursive forum
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Scope is from the cedh list

dusty charm
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scope is really good here since you'll probably be at 1 or 0 lands a lot

compact trout
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Im definitely down for scope

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I kinda want [[staff of compleation]]

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cursive forum
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[[pendant of prosperity]]

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compact trout
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There's also [[palantir of orthanc]]

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cursive forum
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[[sculpting steel]]

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dusty charm
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we have sculpting steel already

compact trout
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Steel is GOOD

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Bloom+steel+artifact land is a line

cursive forum
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[[lotus bloom]] is a must add

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Artifact
Suspend 3—mana0 (Rather than cast this card from your hand, pay mana0 and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)
manat, Sacrifice this artifact: Add three mana of any one color.

dusty charm
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we need like, 1 more 3-drop and to decide on a 5-drop

cursive forum
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Yeah

compact trout
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Bloom is in

dusty charm
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it's already in archi

compact trout
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We have bay, map, steel, and maybe staff of compleation

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I think staff is just pretty good?

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Maybe?

dusty charm
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its ok

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i don't love it

compact trout
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I'm loving it less

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If staff of domination untapped ToR I would probably want it more

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[[simulacrum synth]]

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cursive forum
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[[imposter mech]]

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cursive forum
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Rip 2 mana

compact trout
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Oh yeah mech is really good

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Thats just a good card though

cursive forum
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Yes

dusty charm
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mech is really good, it is not 3cmc but it is good

compact trout
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Synth is solid

dusty charm
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i know this is a weird thing but like

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liberator?

compact trout
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Karn/

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?

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The ship?

dusty charm
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[[liberator urza's]]

gray sirenBOT
cursive forum
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Eh

dusty charm
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i dont love it

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im just trying to think of 3cmc artifacts

compact trout
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Eh

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[[uthros research craft]]