#Swarmweaver deck ideas

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quartz granite
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Used to play standard roughly 10 years ago, looking to get into Commander to have fun and make friends!
I like the look and sound of Swarmweaver so I've set my sights on bugs and delirium!

copper sierra
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[[blightbeetle]] probably not

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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this is what i am at so far

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its very mill focused

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but i do like how much insect grave support there is

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the curve is a little sus rn

quartz granite
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Learning curve you mean?

copper sierra
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Mana curve

quartz granite
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Oh, so not many low cost cards or the opposite?

wispy creek
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how much each card costs

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usually you want it to be a smooth bell curve

quartz granite
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I'm guessing that also means a high chance of a dead opening hand

wispy creek
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lemme see if i have a deck as an example (most of my decks curves are fucked)

quartz granite
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Haha okay

wispy creek
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this is a much more reasonable one

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like this one is another deck i was making

quartz granite
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Yeah I get it

wispy creek
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its curves 100% fucked

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cuz of [[slime against humanity]]

scarlet mauveBOT
quartz granite
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So wait you can have multiple of that card in commander??

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That's interesting

wispy creek
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theres like 10 cards that have that text

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that list is a very silly one

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it makes a ton of frogs and oozes

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and occasionally bees

quartz granite
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Okay haha

wispy creek
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hmmm

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is [[fangbearer]] too mean?

scarlet mauveBOT
quartz granite
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I was sad when I saw the D&D set was only on Mtg arena

wispy creek
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[fynn the fank bearer]]

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[[finn the fang bearer]]

scarlet mauveBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Human Warrior
Deathtouch (Any amount of damage this deals to a creature is enough to destroy it.)
Whenever a creature you control with deathtouch deals combat damage to a player, that player gets two poison counters. (A player with ten or more poison counters loses the game.)
"Come, Koma, and reclaim what you lost! Or does the great serpent fear a rematch?"
1/3

wispy creek
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thats Kinda Evil NGL

quartz granite
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There's so many bugs with deathtouch

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That's filthy

wispy creek
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if you connect with 5 bugs

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you kill the person

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if hes out

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just gg

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also hope you run the spiderman lands in this list if you get it

quartz granite
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In commander?
I thought it was 20 poison counters?

wispy creek
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nope

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its still 10

quartz granite
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And 40 life

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Wow that's crazy

wispy creek
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in commander 10 = 40

quartz granite
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That's so dumb ๐Ÿ˜‚

wispy creek
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its still really hard to get 10 tho

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as soon as infect hits

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youre dying

quartz granite
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I mean I used to run a black and white toxic deck when I used to play.
And I relied heavily on phyrexian unlife

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[[phyrexian unlife]]

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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man you got 3 PW in this list

quartz granite
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Pw?

wispy creek
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planeswalkers

quartz granite
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Jesus haha

wispy creek
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[[lolth spider queen]]\

scarlet mauveBOT
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Legendary Planeswalker โ€” Lolth
Whenever a creature you control dies, put a loyalty counter on Lolth.
0: You draw a card and you lose 1 life.
โˆ’3: Create two 2/1 black Spider creature tokens with menace and reach.
โˆ’8: You get an emblem with "Whenever an opponent is dealt combat damage by one or more creatures you control, if that player lost less than 8 life this turn, they lose life equal to the difference."
Loyalty: 4

wispy creek
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[[vraska swarm]]

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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vraska prolly can go

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you also got a battle

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heres list so far

quartz granite
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I don't really know what battles and stories do yet, they're new to me

wispy creek
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so back in 2021

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we had new phyrexia attack in magic

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those cards were meant to symbolize the battles

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and theyre a card type

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big thign

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they count for delirium

quartz granite
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Oh nice

wispy creek
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[[!battle of shandalar]]

scarlet mauveBOT
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No card found for โ€œbattle of shandalarโ€

wispy creek
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[[!invasion of shandalar]]

wispy creek
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and you attack them

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and when they die

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you get big bonus

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[[leyline surge]]

scarlet mauveBOT
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Battle โ€” Siege
(As a Siege enters, choose an opponent to protect it. You and others can attack it. When it's defeated, exile it, then cast it transformed.)
When this Siege enters, return up to three target permanent cards from your graveyard to your hand.
Defense: 4

Leyline Surge
Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, you may put a permanent card from your hand onto the battlefield.
Shandalar's wild magic stripped away the unnatural Phyrexian carapaces, reclaiming the true forms hidden underneath.

wispy creek
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the second part of this card is what you get if you destroy battle

quartz granite
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Oh so leyline surge just gives me a free lolth drop or something like that?

wispy creek
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free ANYTHING thats permanent

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free land

quartz granite
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That's nuts

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This game has gotten crazy

wispy creek
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free [[shelob child of ungoliant]]

scarlet mauveBOT
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Legendary Creature โ€” Spider Demon
Deathtouch, ward mana2
Other Spiders you control have deathtouch and ward mana2.
Whenever another creature dealt damage this turn by a Spider you controlled dies, create a token that's a copy of that creature, except it's a Food artifact with "mana2, manat, Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life," and it loses all other card types.
8/8

quartz granite
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Ward?

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Lemme guess

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Pay 2 to block it?

wispy creek
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no

quartz granite
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Damn

wispy creek
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so the way ward works

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[[lightning bolt]]

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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im trying to lightning bolt your [[llanowar elves]]

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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if you give llanowar elves ward 2

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it costs 2 additional or the spell is countered

quartz granite
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Ohhhhh

wispy creek
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yea

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its a protection

quartz granite
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So it's specifically for sorceries and instants that target said creature

wispy creek
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NOPE

quartz granite
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I'm assuming enchantments too

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Oh

wispy creek
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Anything an opponent does that targets it

quartz granite
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Oh damn

wispy creek
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now something to note

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the spell is countered if the y cant pay

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but if a card such as [[dovins veto]] says its uncounterable

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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they dont have to pay

quartz granite
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Got it!

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Easy enough to follow

wispy creek
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that is different from some older cards like [[charix]]

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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where it straight up costs 2 more

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oooo

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[[hermit druid]]

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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we could do a very silyl thing with him

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play like 1 basic

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mill whole deck

quartz granite
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Jesus ๐Ÿคฃ

wispy creek
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why is the commander a scarecrow

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do you wanna play boomer card @quartz granite

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[[hornet queen]]

scarlet mauveBOT
copper sierra
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I mean, it's pretty good

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for any self-mill deck, I love [[hedge shredder]]

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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i have that in here

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im looking for ramp options

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whats the green crucible of worlds

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the tree

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also wanna pick a flavor of ramp

copper sierra
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My self-mill deck is the gitrog monster

wispy creek
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ah

copper sierra
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And I run mass land recursion (as a wincon)

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but it can be ramp too

wispy creek
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[[propagator drone]]?

scarlet mauveBOT
copper sierra
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[[aftermath analyst]] and such

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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thoughts on this?

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actually

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analyst is great here

copper sierra
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I don't love propagator

wispy creek
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fair

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i wanted to like it in my oozes

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but they enter as 0/0

copper sierra
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Not an insect and also very slow

wispy creek
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which

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doesnt trigger

copper sierra
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Most insects are like 1/1 anyways lol

wispy creek
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yea

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if you cast a 2/2

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they beome 2/2

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each creature token has evolve

copper sierra
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Yeah, but the insect you're casting is also a 1/1 probs

wispy creek
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True

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im debating keeping konrad in

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i know its good

copper sierra
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[[wight of the reliquary]] is great

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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ill repost what i got so far

copper sierra
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[[tato farmer]] is also good ramp for self-mill decks

scarlet mauveBOT
wispy creek
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OOOO

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also mills

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[[ripples the unearth]]

scarlet mauveBOT
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No card found for โ€œripples the unearthโ€

copper sierra
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[[summon titan]]

scarlet mauveBOT
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Enchantment Creature โ€” Saga Giant
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I โ€” Mill five cards.
II โ€” Return all land cards from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
III โ€” Until end of turn, another target creature you control gains trample and gets +X/+X, where X is the number of lands you control.
Reach, trample
7/7

wispy creek
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[[ripples the undeath]]

scarlet mauveBOT
copper sierra
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Yeah, ripples is ๐Ÿ

wispy creek
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god i forget

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titan is great

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a massive blocker for 2 turns

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and just recursion

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feels bad to burn removal on too

copper sierra
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[[out of the tombs]] is the best mill enchant

scarlet mauveBOT
copper sierra
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A little pricey though

wispy creek
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one i found i didnt know of

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[[oversold cemetery]]

scarlet mauveBOT
quartz granite
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Sorry guys, toddler did not want to go to sleep haha

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Also I didn't thank you guys before for your help and your enthusiasm to do so.

So thank you ๐Ÿ‘

wispy creek
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NP, if you want us to take a look after your done, feel free to let us know

quartz granite
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Will do man thanks again ๐Ÿ‘

quartz granite
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It doesn't specify nest counters

wispy creek
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Its any kind of counters

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However it has to be counters

quartz granite
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Good to know, the card seems MUCH better now

wispy creek
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So id you have 7 +1/+1 counters

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It makes 7 spiders

quartz granite
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Right so sudden growths +4/+4 wouldn't count towards that??

wispy creek
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Nope

quartz granite
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Damn

wispy creek
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Has to specifically place counters

quartz granite
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Okay cool

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So I just counted the deck list you put together too, it's at 91 so far, so I just need to add 9 more cards out of the ones you showed me yesterday ๐Ÿ‘