#Abdel the chef in "Blink and you'll miss it"

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oblique mural
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Trying to make an Abdel deck to have to play when I am not in the mood for the liliana mono black one

https://archidekt.com/decks/17296119/abdel_the_green

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Abdel Adrian, Gorion's Ward & Master Chef - Commander deck

(2) Commander • (2) Anthem • (11) Blink • (7) Draw • (1) Evasion • (1) Finisher • (34) Land • (5) Protection • (12) Ramp • (7) Recursion • (12) Removal • (2) Stax • (1) Synergy • (3) Tutor

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Btw I am beyond disappointed Abdel does not create human soldiers

naive silo
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So one card I was running that has up and downside is [[armorcraft judge]]

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naive silo
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The downside is this effect is mandatory

oblique mural
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Is [[knight errand of eos]] card draw here?

naive silo
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So the potential exists to just deck yourself if you don't pay attention

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naive silo
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Hm, not really

oblique mural
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One off right?

naive silo
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Convoke is a nice way to use tokens, but we want creatures that have reusable etbs

oblique mural
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Fair

naive silo
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Judge is arguably one of the best draw spells this deck can play, it just has to be flickered responsibly

oblique mural
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Or play him if you have 40+ tokens

naive silo
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Yeah of course, that's why I said "if you don't pay attention"

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It's easy to get caught up with triggers in a deck like this

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Every single flicker spell is often like 4-6 effects with new info

oblique mural
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[[Metastatic Evangel]] what about this dude?

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naive silo
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If you want to win via combat it's very scary

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It is probably worth playing [[inspiring call]]

oblique mural
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Not sure if selesnya can win by any other means

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naive silo
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You can cast every spell in the deck infinite times

oblique mural
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Huh

naive silo
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Abdel goes infinite with eternal witness, a blink spell, and mana rocks that can pay for that blink spell

oblique mural
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Ohhhhhh

naive silo
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So if you want to run 0 combos you need to run 0 mana rocks

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Otherwise it will just happen sometimes

oblique mural
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I can run more mana dorks

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Same thing here right?

naive silo
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Honestly I think the ramp auras are better here

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The dorks die to all sorts and you lose their mana if you Flicker them

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The auras you can take off tapped lands and put them onto untapped lands with each flicker

oblique mural
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Like the battle already in the deck?

naive silo
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Not infinite, but does increase your mana a ton

oblique mural
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Ohhhh I see what you mean now

naive silo
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But yeah like, [[abundant growth]] etc

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naive silo
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That's not one that works lol

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Uh, the ones that make them tap for more mana

oblique mural
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Abundant growth is more fixing and draw than ramping

naive silo
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Abundant is still good for sure

oblique mural
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[[overgrowth]]

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oblique mural
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This things?

naive silo
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Yeah yeah

oblique mural
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[[weirding woods]]

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naive silo
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You play them, tap the land for mana to blink abdel, then the aura can re-enter attached to a new land for more mana

oblique mural
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[[wild growth]]

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naive silo
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It's such a cute lil trick honestly

oblique mural
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All of them on one land and repeat

naive silo
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Truth nukey

oblique mural
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If I do this I would run out of blinks fast, right?

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Well I can combo if I get one of the 3 creature blinkers

naive silo
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You'd think, but you should absolutely play eternal and timeless witness in this deck

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They're just too good to pass up

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Even if you aren't comboing they give you effectively infinite grind game

oblique mural
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[[wolfwillow haven]]

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naive silo
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Just needs you to have literally any outlet that actually wins from being flickered (or you can make a million tokens and give everybody a turn to act before you turn em sideways)

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I was using [[heirophants chalice]] in mine

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oblique mural
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[[zendikar avenger]]

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oblique mural
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I was thinking about using him or Abdel army

naive silo
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Oh also I'd cut selvala, we don't care for giving our opponents cards on a slow dork when we can go crazy on our own

oblique mural
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The dude does leave behind tokens each time

naive silo
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Oh for sure, you can just smash face pretty effectively

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I think [[$beastmaster ascension]] is fairly cheap these days too?

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naive silo
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For sure, abdel benefits a ton from just being able to be put together on a very small collection/budget

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He was, and maybe still is, literally the best deck in pauper edh

oblique mural
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I just gotta get some key cards. Like the blinks, withnesses and some blink payoffs

naive silo
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Pretty much

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I gotta sleep now anyway, but good talk. Might pop in tomorrow if I rebuild mine 👀

oblique mural
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Thanks

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Tomorrow I go to my LGS so I might be able to get some of the pieces without having to buy them online

naive silo
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Oh, as a side note, abdel sharing 0 creature types with the tokens is so annoying because [[Haunted one]] abdel where you death-blink him with the undying trigger and buff the tokens (and shenanigans to remove the counters after) is so cool

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Legendary Enchantment — Background
Commander creatures you own have "Whenever this creature becomes tapped, it and other creatures you control that share a creature type with it each get +2/+0 and gain undying until end of turn." (When a creature with undying dies, if it had no +1/+1 counters on it, return it to the battlefield under its owner's control with a +1/+1 counter on it.)

naive silo
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But instead it just doesn't do anything lol

oblique mural
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oblique mural
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Way worse than the other two but will do its job with master chef

naive silo
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Well, rebuilt mine 😅

oblique mural
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@naive silo care to share the list?

naive silo
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I'll have to put it online first but it's fairly similar. Lacks some of the best inclusions I could make like [[druid of purification]] because it's all from collection

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naive silo
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Running about 13 draw-etb things in a mix of creatures and eggs, including the ixalan cradle enchantment, about 15 Flicker spells with a focus on permanents or ones that return immediately, timeless and eternal, 8 or so mana rocks for combo potential and speeding up abdel coming down, and wincons like beastmaster ascension, acidic slime, valor in akros and [[court street denizen]]

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naive silo
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Worth noting once the mana loop is online you can draw through until you hit both timeless and eternal and then bring back the Flicker spell and a beast within/stroke of midnight, meaning you can destroy all nonlands or all permanents and then keep people under that thumb for a turn cycle until you swing out with uber-lethal

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It's not ideal, but it doesn't need very much to be at a point I'd consider finished. Just some mild side grades or upgrades to the various cheap etb/interaction pieces

wary forum
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Not looking at list till i get home but re the question in general, green has a lot of access to powerrful manifest cards

I think theres some 3 drop overstatted ans also wildwood elemental or something

I would not run a card that manifests a single target in the hope its something big u can blink

unreal root
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Your ramp seems a bit low for your higher cost cards? Might make sense to shift away from some of them.

oblique mural
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there are only really 4 heavy cost cards (i would not count the wurm due to convoke)

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total 9 cards that cost 5 or more

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i could include more ramp to be fair

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but i would like to avoid mana rocks or mana dorks

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[[mycosynth wellspring]]

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oblique mural
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[[pilgrim eye]]

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oblique mural
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[[Sutina, Speaker of the Tajuru]]

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oblique mural
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[[sakura tribe elder]]

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oblique mural
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these are ones that come off at the top of my head

unreal root
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Sutina is even cooler than Wellspring — hadn't gotten there.

oblique mural
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The displacer and the unicorn are not too bad

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Reusable blink seems neat

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Or you mean for the colorless requirement?

unreal root
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Yeah the colourless requirement seems like it's rarely going to be satisfied.

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Adamantoise is at least nifty, I just worry about you getting there.

oblique mural
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I do not worry too much

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Most of the ramp in the deck are permanents that fetch lands

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So if abdel hits the field once I get to do it again

unreal root
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In terms of displacer, unless I missed a creature, you have two colourless sources both of which you want to sacrifice.

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Karmic Guide could be a good call

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Greatwurm is kinda just a beefy dude so it could still be cut (and it's less impressive than Adamantoise)

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You might be able to go down a land and cut 1-2 maindeck flicker effect since you have quite a bit. Felidar Guardian is the first one that comes to mind.

oblique mural
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ye the turtle is nice

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so in short:
-1 eldrazi displace
-1 greatwurm
-1 felidar guardian

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still need 2 more cuts

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or more if I want to include Sutina

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or [[clifftop lookout]]

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oblique mural
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or [[sylvan ranger]]

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oblique mural
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or the guide

unreal root
oblique mural
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34vlands sounds low tho

unreal root
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Oh I had remembered you as having 36

oblique mural
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I have

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But I cut one already

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So down to 35

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And you suggested more lands cuts

unreal root
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Oh sorry, didn't realise

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[[Hour of Revelation]] is better than Planar Cleansing in terms of hard resets.

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unreal root
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Protean Hulk is mostly a combo card and seems a bit weird in your deck.

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[[Hallowed Moonlight]] is good hate but is kinda weird for you to run since it mostly hates on what your deck is doing.

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unreal root
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Glorious Protector requires an additional effect to work so maybe that could make sense for a cut

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Also to remember is that there's a new Terramorphic Expanse in the form of [[Escape Tunnel]]

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Land
manat, Sacrifice this land: Search your library for a basic land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
manat, Sacrifice this land: Target creature with power 2 or less can't be blocked this turn.
No self-respecting criminal has a basement with only one exit.

oblique mural
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Withnesses, draw, sun titan, break enchant/artifact, one of the anthem guys

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If it hits the board I get to close the game basically

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oblique mural
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That is a good upgrade, thanks

unreal root
oblique mural
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I cannot read

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So he was a jund tutor

unreal root
oblique mural
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So what do I put there as a 3rd tutor?

unreal root
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[[Altar of Bone]]
[[Fauna Shaman]]
[[Nature's Rhythm]]
[[Yisan, the Wandering Bard]]
[[Birthing Pod]]
[[Congregation at Dawn]]
[[Ecological Appreciation]]
[[Threats Undetected]]

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oblique mural
unreal root
oblique mural
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Cannot use tokens for it

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Probably fine

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[[green sun zenith]]?

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oblique mural
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No

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I got him

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[[woodland bellower]]

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oblique mural
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He is perfect

unreal root
oblique mural
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Well not perfect but hits most of the good stuff I want

oblique mural
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I think I run none

unreal root
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This comes back to my "Try not to build your deck around it."

oblique mural
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I think the bellower at least can hit a couple of things. He will do

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unreal root
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Reasonable choice

prisma topaz
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What’s the deal with [[fierce empath]]? It looks like it only has three (3) valid targets in the whole deck

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oblique mural
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That is correct

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Mostly there for [[woodland bellower]]

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oblique mural
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Embath gets bellower, bellower then gets a lot of useful stuff

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wary forum
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is this budget?
acidic slime is generally an out of date card (it was good around 2015 but has been powercrept out of the format for the most part. loran of the third path is basically just better in your colours)

weirding wood is a below power ramp spell, there are better options for creatures/permanents that ramp on etb

would much rather run [[wood elves]] than sylvan ranger

[[hauntlands shrieker]] is the card i told u about a week ago instead of your singular manifest dread thing you wanted

also [[whisperwood elemental]]

[[angel of glorys rise]] also functions as another karmic guide with your commander, albiet a little more mana costly

for other cuts, i think wrath of god is less good because you arent running cards like selfless spirit and are a creature deck
for a deck with not a lot of ramp, ancient adamantortiose is VERY hopeful

overall i think this deck wants more proactive creatures that it can feel fine blinking, like loyal warhound

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Creature — Beast Mutant
Whenever this creature attacks, manifest dread. (Look at the top two cards of your library. Put one onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature and the other into your graveyard. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
mana1manag: Reveal target face-down permanent. If it's a creature card, you may turn it face up.
3/3

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Creature — Elemental
At the beginning of your end step, manifest the top card of your library. (Put it onto the battlefield face down as a 2/2 creature. Turn it face up any time for its mana cost if it's a creature card.)
Sacrifice this creature: Until end of turn, face-up nontoken creatures you control gain "When this creature dies, manifest the top card of your library."
4/4

oblique mural
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Angel of glory's rise looks terrible here. It only resurrects the commander almost

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I did cut the manifest card, I was being silly at the beginning

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Wait is that [[knight of the white orchid]]?

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oblique mural
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Close enough

wary forum
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if your commander dies, you put it in graveyard
then you cast angel of glorys rise, which resurrects it, and the commander exiles the angel
now whenever your commander dies, it will summon the angel which will immediently resurrect it (and any other humans), which will remove the angel again

so if you have karmic guide or angel of glorys rise in your yard, your commander is immortal. (you can use a sac engine for infinite here but thats not what the deck is trying to do) You can totally up the human count to support it more with cards like thalia, loran of the third path, thalias lancers etc, but im not sure what the deck is particularly trying to do

you have a blink theme obviously but then you also have a bunch of +1/+1 counter payoff cards and theres actually not that many ways to get +1 counters that im seeing here
sure some cards give loads but theyre few and far between, i think this deck would benefit more by dropping a bunch of the +1 reliant payoffs like armourcraft judge and inspiring call (as these cards dont do anything unless you already have a lot of creatures who also have counters on them) and putting in other support for the blink mechanic, such as creatures you want to blink

oblique mural
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Without wrath of god I would be at 2 cuts to have the deck playable

oblique mural
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I thought that was enough to make use of the payoffs

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[[master chef]]

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wary forum
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if you play your 3 drop enchantment and 5 drop commander then your cards might finally be enabled
the problem is that its turn 6 before all the +1 reliant cards do anything

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if you go into the human direction, you can run cards like [[thalia's lieutenant]] or champion of the parish which automatically have built in synergy for both blink and +1

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oblique mural
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These are interesting true

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But that will be a choice for another day

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Tomorrow I go to play and I do not have time to get any new cards I am afraid

wary forum
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fair enough
if ur just looking for immediate removals, i would say inspiring call, ancient admant tortoise, and weirding wood would be my top 3

oblique mural
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@wary forum thinking of grabbing either [[preston vanisher]] or [[elsh nor mother of machines]] for my blink deck. which do you think works better?

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wary forum
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Both are great for this deck, pick whichever you like, i would run both

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If u can only run 1, elesh is stronger standalone and also disrupts opponents
While preston is good but more reliant on the deck

oblique mural
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I am trying not to get over a certain monthly budget for cards

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Both would put me over it

oblique mural
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Elesh seems both winmore but can help from behind too

wary forum
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Elesh is the stronger cards and is usuable in more different decks later on if ur buying the physical card

oblique mural
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fair enough

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elesh it is

oblique mural
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@hoary hull

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Here I had the brains to pin the link to the deck

hoary hull
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Oh cool there is one

oblique mural
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For ease of access

hoary hull
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I’d cut the things that give you +1

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And add [[Lumbering Battlement]]

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hoary hull
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[[Angel of Serenity]], [[Fiend Hunter]], and [[Vault 13: Dweller's Journey]] too

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Enchantment — Saga
(As this Saga enters and after your draw step, add a lore counter. Sacrifice after III.)
I — For each player, exile up to one other target enchantment or creature that player controls until this Saga leaves the battlefield.
II — You gain 2 life and scry 2.
III — Return two cards exiled with this Saga to the battlefield under their owners' control and put the rest on the bottom of their owners' libraries.

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hoary hull
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+1 p/t

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hoary hull
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[[Goldknight commander]]

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oblique mural
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He gives +1/+1 like 9 times

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Without those 3 dudes i am never closing games

hoary hull
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I was thinking trying to amass more tokens would be better than trying to buff them

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That’s the logic at least

oblique mural
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Ammassing 2/2 without haste does not seem ideal. I should cut summon bahamut or meteor golem at that point

hoary hull
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It’s the closest I’ve made to a blink deck

oblique mural
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@unreal root

unreal root
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Ah

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unreal root
# oblique mural What?

I remember talking about this deck before with you.

So there's a struggle in terms of identity when building GW blink decks. Not that it's a bad concept, but it can lend itself to some deckbuilding traps.

There's a question of what sort of position you want in the game.

You could be the go-wide army deck. You could be the durdly midrange deck. You could be the big finisher deck. Similarly, you could be aggro, control, combo, or somewhere in-between.

Generally the difficulty is in picking one as your primary strategy. It's easy for the deck to feel like it's not doing enough if it's inadvertently split between multiple concepts.

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These traps are sorta what I was poking at with the "try to avoid having a single card become the deck's identity"

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Since the same sorta thing tends to happen in that direction.

oblique mural
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Even if that card is the commander?

hoary hull
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Generally the commander is the deck’s identity, but there’s commanders that lend themselves to multiple different strategies

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But you don’t want a deck to go “if this card hits my GY I’m ded”

unreal root
hoary hull
unreal root
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I ran [[Hazezon Tamar]] shenanigans for some time which was a somewhat durdly midrange strategy with a lot of blinks. As long as it straddled the line well avoiding single-focus or diluted focus, it was fun and worked well. As soon as it stepped off the tightrope one way or the other, it got dull fast.

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oblique mural
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Maybe i need more card draw?

unreal root
# oblique mural I am fine with risk

Yeah, it's a matter of what you're risking.

If you're risking sitting there feeling like you're doing nothing for a while, that's rough. If you're just risking being behind the beat a bit for a turn or so, that's less bad.

worn granite
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Is this bant blink

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What is like

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The payoff

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Like how do u wanna win

oblique mural
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It is selesnya

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WG

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No blue

worn granite
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Uh

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But how do we win

oblique mural
worn granite
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Like

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Is it flickering craterhoof

oblique mural
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The 1/1s

worn granite
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Uhhh

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[[resourceful defense]]

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oblique mural
worn granite
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[[the ozolith]]

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oblique mural
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It does have a handful of """finishers"""

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@worn granite deck list btw

worn granite
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Considering running like

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Welcoming vampire

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Enduring innocence

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For cards

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Or caretaker talent

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Also witch enchanter is great in yhis deck

oblique mural
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[[welcoming vampire]]

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oblique mural
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[[enduring innocence]]

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oblique mural
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[[caretaker talent]]

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oblique mural
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[[witch enchanter]]

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Creature — Human Warlock
When this creature enters, destroy target artifact or enchantment an opponent controls.
Shilgengar's famine once starved Stensia into embracing vampirism. The Dawnhart Coven would not let the same happen to Kessig.
2/2

Witch-Blessed Meadow
Land
As this land enters, you may pay 3 life. If you don't, it enters tapped.
manat: Add manaw.
"Ghrin-Danu will not let her people go hungry." —Katilda, Dawnhart Prime

oblique mural
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@worn granite and what can I cut for the card draw?

worn granite
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There is also like [[rite of harmony]]

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worn granite
oblique mural
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I do not think I really have any of those

oblique mural
worn granite
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Valor and gold night

oblique mural
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Those are how I close games tho

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Without those the soldiers stay way too small to get the win

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I could swap one for the craterhoof

worn granite
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Try more things for like

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Permanent pump

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Instead of end of turn

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This is a good way to draw cards too

oblique mural
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@hoary hull here we go

hoary hull
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I was about to say angel of glory’s rise but that’s actually really solid for the deck

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Maybe the stax monkey cause Aura shards will take care of the problem

oblique mural
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Stax monkey?

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You mean the ouphe?

hoary hull
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I forgot its name lol

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Yes

oblique mural
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Me too

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90% sure i butchered it

hoary hull
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The worst part is it’s not even a monkey

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I’m sorry [[Kubo]]

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No card found for “Kubo”

hoary hull
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…welp

oblique mural
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[[kubo prince]]

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No card found for “kubo prince”

oblique mural
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[[kibo prince]]

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Legendary Creature — Monkey Noble
manat: Each player creates a colorless artifact token named Banana with "manat, Sacrifice this token: Add manar or manag. You gain 2 life."
Whenever an artifact an opponent controls is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, put a +1/+1 counter on each creature you control that's an Ape or a Monkey.
Whenever Kibo attacks, defending player sacrifices an artifact of their choice.
2/2

oblique mural
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There he is

hoary hull
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Yeah them

oblique mural
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Ye that works

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Was thinking about the druid of purification too

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Mainly cause he is too fat to be under [[woodland bellower]]

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hoary hull
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Which is why I didn’t want to recommend cutting it

oblique mural
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Ye the druid gets the bucket

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Oh what about [[appa guardian]] and [[air ascension]]

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oblique mural
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I do not usually brew with upcoming releases but these look juicy

hoary hull
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Go grab [[pearl medallion]] and [[helm of awakening]]

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hoary hull
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Airbend stuff-> cast for free->flicker Appa…

oblique mural
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That is overkill

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I am fine with the 2 mana tax

hoary hull
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Just thought I’d put the option out there

oblique mural
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Fair

hoary hull
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You could also run [[sculpting steel]]

oblique mural
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I am really tempted to convert an golgari eldrazi deck into abzan for airbend

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oblique mural
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I do not have enough artifacts for this surely

oblique mural
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Updated the list

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The issue now I think are the lands. Too few of em

ashen creek
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33 is too low

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Go to 36-38

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Also [[the earth king ]] is a fun blink target

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ashen creek
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Also add phelia

oblique mural
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I do not like this one

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The bear will not get to attack most of the time

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[[assolement]]

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hushed sierra
oblique mural
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I just got for cheap: [[emeria sky ruin]]

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oblique mural
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And was wondering if some land tutors would be a good investment

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Can run em in any deck

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No

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I meant if i can slot some creatures to tutor out the land

hushed sierra
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I looked and only 2 good options

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[[knight of the reliquary]] and [[elvish reclaimer]]

mellow shaleBOT
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Neither can tutor out emeria

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I meant nonbasic land tutor

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I run a decent chunk of "etb ramp"

hushed sierra
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Ah

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Yeah unfortunately your not abzan

oblique mural
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Green has a decent chunk of tutors for lands

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But none attached to cheap creature