Y'shtola Communal Brewing

[mild harness]

and sometimes skill of a bracket 2 player

[daring oriole]

Sounds like a big baby sore loser bc they could do the thing they built their deck to do ' 3'

the way I see it, if I had a bad hand and a bad couple draws. The other people won't see me any different than a target to get a trigger off. You can be nice, but ppl lose all the same

The ppl in my LGS wasn't mad at me when I top decked a [[singularity rupture]] with a [[blood chief ascension]] online

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/eoe/228/singularity-rupture

Singularity Rupture <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures, then any number of target players each mill half their library, rounded down.
"Rejoice! For within sekhar, the final sacrifice, you will find passage to the Next Eternity." —Calnan, Monoist assassin

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/139/bloodchief-ascension

Bloodchief Ascension <:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of each end step, if an opponent lost 2 or more life this turn, you may put a quest counter on this enchantment. (Damage causes loss of life.)
Whenever a card is put into an opponent's graveyard from anywhere, if this enchantment has three or more quest counters on it, you may have that player lose 2 life. If you do, you gain 2 life.

[daring oriole]

Neither should your friend if you play a good game of magic ' 3'

[mild harness]

good is when i sold 2/3's of my collection recently lol

[umbral ruin]

Get new friends

[lusty igloo]

Won a long 1v1 vs tannuk glacial chasm looping. Highly recommend just one land removal in the deck. I use generous gift.

[fervent burrow]

Kambal but symmetrical + no heal.

[elder lagoon]

Oh wow

I like that

[wide quiver]

Yeah, seems good

[near birch]

I think the heal is very important

[wide quiver]

Heal schmeal

[umbral ruin]

Cooler art>

[wide quiver]

Also Mai>

[umbral ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/predator-arnold-schwarzenegger-hand-shake-arms-gif-3468629

[mild harness]

i saw a YT video for a group slug build of yshtola using cards like Liesa and [[Kambal, Consul of Allocation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/237/kambal-consul-of-allocation

Kambal, Consul of Allocation <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Advisor
Whenever an opponent casts a noncreature spell, that player loses 2 life and you gain 2 life.
He has "friends" in places both high and low, and all seem to owe him favors.
2/3

[mild harness]

was like "oh i might take some inspiration from this list

$600 esper good stuff

[winter cipher]

Group slug will work like that sadly

[maiden widget]

Another one for the yshtola board wipe style deck

[fervent burrow]

I just hate that its a worse [[Slaughter the Strong]] but it does have its benefit

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/131/slaughter-the-strong

Slaughter the Strong <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player chooses any number of creatures they control with total power 4 or less, then sacrifices all other creatures they control.
"Cut the beasts out from under them and their strength is nothing." —Vona of Iedo, Butcher of Magan

[maiden widget]

Get around a good indestructible or big number board

[[promise of loyalty]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/79/promise-of-loyalty

Promise of Loyalty <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player puts a vow counter on a creature they control and sacrifices the rest. Each of those creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control for as long as it has a vow counter on it.
"It's us against the world. Forever."

[maiden widget]

Anything it’s better than ^

[mild harness]

Yeah I didn’t bother, disassembled yshtola because I wasn’t having fun

[elder lagoon]

Wait holy shit this goes hard in my esper deck

Power 4 or less?

Oh wait total power rip

Nvm

[maiden widget]

It’s slaughter the strong

[wide quiver]

Yeah it's slaughter the strong, but 1 mana more

[elder lagoon]

Wait why lol

[wide quiver]

It's so weird

[elder lagoon]

I mean guess tjey can’t all be better

[maiden widget]

If you want 2nd copy

[wide quiver]

Same exact card. Same exact rarity.

[elder lagoon]

That’s a good card for limited

[maiden widget]

I would run this and slaughter the strong in yshtola

[wide quiver]

Yeah I mean, it's good

[elder lagoon]

Yeah for yshtola it’s good good

[wide quiver]

It's just weird that it's specifically the same exact effect, just 1 mana higher

Like, none of the numbers are altered

[maiden widget]

Not the first time they do it

[[lightning strike]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/146/lightning-strike

Lightning Strike <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397>

Instant
Lightning Strike deals 3 damage to any target.
Like lightning, Princess Azula is quick, fierce, and deadly.

[green vigil]

I like these kind of board wipes. Especially in a low creature low power deck. Im not sure ill run it in my casual yshtola , but betor is 100% getting it.

[near birch]

I'll stick with [[tragic arrogance]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/109/tragic-arrogance

Tragic Arrogance <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
For each player, you choose from among the permanents that player controls an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a planeswalker. Then each player sacrifices all other nonland permanents they control.
The spear thrown by Kytheon's own hand was the weapon that felled his friends.

[green vigil]

Tragic arrogance is alright. I like it. But I run less creatures than what seemingly most ppl here do. So targetted removal is simply better as the non creature permanents I want to keep.

[near birch]

I have a low permanent count overall, so it's definitely deck dependent.

[daring oriole]

What do you guys normally look for in a mulligan?

cant tell if im piloting incorrectly or the players im going against are just playing faster

My new current list

https://archidekt.com/decks/16547553/v3_upgraded_ffxiv_scions_spellcraft

[near birch]

I usually want ramp and enough lands. I try to play a slow and steady game so making my land drops is important to me.

[umbral ruin]

I look for three lands and some form of protection

[lusty igloo]

how terrible is [[avatar's wrath]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/12/avatars-wrath

Avatar's Wrath <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose up to one target creature, then airbend all other creatures. (Exile them. While each one is exiled, its owner may cast it for rather than its mana cost.)
Until your next turn, your opponents can't cast spells from anywhere other than their hand.
Exile Avatar's Wrath.

[daring oriole]

i like how it's a stun counter for 2 turn cycles

if you have ETBs, retrigger for two but i dont think it's something that'll be in a yshtola deck

[lusty igloo]

yup

[wide quiver]

I like it a lot

Not sure if I like it here though

[keen grail]

I like [[Fated Contest]] a bit more, but it is a neat option for sure.

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “Fated Contest”

[keen grail]

[[Fated Clash]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/449/fated-clash

Fated Clash <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
You may cast this spell as though it had flash if a creature is attacking and a creature is blocking.
Target creature you control and target creature an opponent controls each gain indestructible until end of turn. Then destroy all creatures.
"I'll show you who's the better man!" —Seifer Almasy

[umbral ruin]

[[sculpted sunburst]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/42/sculpted-sunburst

Sculpted Sunburst <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Choose a creature you control, then each opponent chooses a creature they control with equal or lesser power. If you chose a creature this way, exile each creature not chosen by any player this way.
A searing light that spares only the chosen.

[near birch]

Idk if it's just the decks I play against but I value a board wipe that wipes out small tokens.

[daring oriole]

[[promise of loyalty]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/79/promise-of-loyalty

Promise of Loyalty <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player puts a vow counter on a creature they control and sacrifices the rest. Each of those creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control for as long as it has a vow counter on it.
"It's us against the world. Forever."

[daring oriole]

Now looking at em both. Having them exile is better at the cost of an extra white pip instead of generic

[wide quiver]

I think they are both good

[maiden widget]

If you run [[drannith magis]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/iko/11/drannith-magistrate

Drannith Magistrate <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Wizard
Your opponents can't cast spells from anywhere other than their hands.
"Our sanctuaries must be beacons of reason and calm or else they will fall."
1/3

[maiden widget]

Would be funny

[umbral ruin]

Imagine Drannith in an air bending deck

[wide quiver]

I can't

[daring oriole]

[elder lagoon]

That’s the Imagine Dragons parody band - Imagine Drannith

[fervent burrow]

Beyond Mai and Bender's Waterskin, is there anything else that sticks out?

[maiden widget]

I like the second copy of slaughter the strong

[elder lagoon]

If you’re a controlling deck, the 2 mana U Katara is insane too

[wide quiver]

Yeah katara is sweet

[green vigil]

I run it in appa. Its already been the mvp lol

(Yes I know appa himself doesnt work) but I have several other cards that do work with it

[umbral ruin]

Ngl this deck is starting to bore me

[lusty igloo]

Same. It's too linear

[umbral ruin]

Too easy to win too

Same reason i dropped Eluge

Too easy

[umbral ruin]

[[Lin duals vault]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “Lin duals vault”

[umbral ruin]

[[lim-dual vault]]

[surreal shoal]

No card found for “lim-dual vault”

[keen grail]

[[lim-duls vault]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c13/197/lim-dûls-vault

Lim-Dûl's Vault <:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Look at the top five cards of your library. As many times as you choose, you may pay 1 life, put those cards on the bottom of your library in any order, then look at the top five cards of your library. Then shuffle and put the last cards you looked at this way on top in any order.

[daring oriole]

Y'all are winning a lot?

[fervent burrow]

My experience has been I feel I will win unless I am stopped in this deck

[umbral ruin]

I usually need all three people to hard focus me down

[marble sundial]

https://moxfield.com/decks/O82ETm5TFkO512-vheDjHA

Hi gys! Built this y'shtola deck and would like to hear your thoughts on this! Counterspell oriented with some enchantments to capitalise on the dmg skill from her to draw and bounce creatures. I have tried it and its kinda finicky as I was looking for sth more active control oriented instead of just throwing counters.

[umbral ruin]

Cruel af

Keep it up

[marble sundial]

https://manabox.app/decks/AZqPWgW3ceOZLrJbrUm0_w

Modified the deck to have more passive control. Not sure if this would work tbh

Please ignore the lands, it's just a placeholder LOL

[umbral ruin]

https://youtube.com/shorts/GCkjDC_eojc?si=tLFXvwtqdNhtuqQq

I’m fucking dying

[upper fable]

https://moxfield.com/decks/DHL5I2DDIUm7Il3ZcT4Klg any suggestions would be awesome. I really think some infect might be nice

[fervent burrow]

Theres two or three infect options but that will very quickly make you a real real real target. Because that will end the game quick

I personally find its not worth thr smoke, but I get it if you do

[lusty igloo]

infect is eh

pretty bad wincon for your bracket (4)

you need a lot more low mana / free interaction and combos if you want to be strong in b4. like we cant be out here on stuff like final judgement and sublime ephipahyn

[lusty igloo]

probably should be on the grand abolisher effects too

tbh i think you'd benefit from movign down to b3 where the more fun clone stuff and infect are viable @upper fable

[upper fable]

I want to push into higher bracket 4 im willing to avoid infect and remove some of the higher casting stuff. What other free interaction would you suggest?

[lusty igloo]

you have a very expensive ad naus CMC

force of will, misdirection, pact of negation, flare of denial cant be played u have barely any blue creaturs, rewind/unwind gotta go -> offer you cant refuse / swan song / restoration magic. OBM / esper sentinel in. papalymo is a stronger curiosity holder than yshtola and u need backups. should have at least 3 of these 5: grand abolisher, voice of victory, ranger captain of eos, silence, and t3feri. if you add t3feri, you probably also play displacer kitten to have the combo

frantic search is a must

should be on dismember, submerge, snuff out, and swords to plowshares.

vampiric and enlightened tutor are probably in. i would play bolas + sensei's divining top + sheoldred / papalymo /yshtola combo instead of thassas cuz i dont like playing thassa in b4

ur lands need a ton of work. should make ur way down to ~32 lands and all the good ramp to support it

lothos in

remove the random FF stuff

probably tandem lookout over helm of the ghastlord

tbh your entire sorcery section besides demonci tutor can go

and deluge

beseech probably over grim

[lusty igloo]

just do 9 fetches, 3 og duals, 3 shocks, 3 surveils, city of brass + mana confluence, uhh gemstone caverns. urza saga if ur on top. uhh otawara. 3 battlebond lands. and if u have more room add some mfdcs or pain lands or something.

drop field of the dead

if ur on t3f + kitten combo . well actually in general. should be on chrome mox mox diamond and mox opal

[upper fable]

Looks like I have quite a bit of work to do with it. I've been thinking about throwing some combos in but my play group can get kind of bitchy.

[lusty igloo]

ur deck is currently a mid 3 with a bunch of game changers

hmmmm

what are they doing playing in b4 if they cant handle combos lol

[upper fable]

I'm going to start working on that. I do have a chrome mox on the way. Going to need to make an order I think.

[lusty igloo]

if ur completely proxy free then might have to make some budget cuts

lim duls vault or wishclaw talisman are good buget options

[upper fable]

proxy free and yeah don't think the mox diamond is in the budget but the rest should be

[lusty igloo]

dont need og duals tbh just go on painlands

[upper fable]

thats a good point too definetly want them though lol

[lusty igloo]

propaganda / ghostly are mainstays of b3 yshtola, and solitary confinement is by far the best of them. but in b4 it might not be relevant cuz meta is so infinite combo heavy instead of combat

imo teferi's protection is a slow card in high power but thats my opinion. it isnt the worst include

just make sure to play all the off fetches

they're far more important than having og duals

[upper fable]

I havent thought about dropping down to so few lands yet. But im in no way against it.

[lusty igloo]

my atraxa GU list is 31 lands and it's a 7 mana commander

u just aggressively mulligan to get enough lands in hands and decent ramp, u dun wanna draw more lands

usually the newbier/weaker a deck is, the more lands it has

use fetches and surveils to find more lands or less of them

[upper fable]

Looking through decks I've noticed the stronger bracket 4 decks seem to stick around the 30-31 lands. I just sold a bunch of my fetchs too lol. i have all my surveils just put meticulous in

[lusty igloo]

i think maybe do like 32-33ish

probably drop all but 1 of the 3 mana ramp artifacts and stick with the 0s/1s/2s

pick ur fav and leave the rest out

it's probably relic of legends. maybe bender's

[upper fable]

I was thinking bender's as soon as I read that

the untap seems really n nice

[lusty igloo]

just make sure ur interaction and protection package are as light as possible. run all the free ones cuz they're the best AND are curiosity engines, but beyond that you gotta go for 1 mana ones. cannot afford synergy bait on these like void rend or unwind (if they coutner ur unwind its rly bad). utter end and aetherize gotta go

[upper fable]

thank you for all the suggestions. I'm going to my lgs tomorrow to start hopefully ticking some of these off I know I'll be able to get a good amount of my fetchs at the very least

[daring oriole]

What are the best game changers for ysh? I happen to get my hands on smothering/t.pro/fierce guardianship/bolas but I want to stay within bracket 3

[compact vine]

Probably Rhystic or Smotherinh

[grand thunder]

[[Dismember]] is an auto include in my list! Underrated card is [[Risky Shortcut]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mm2/79/dismember

Dismember <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manabp:292901508922474496><:manabp:292901508922474496>

Instant
( can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Target creature gets -5/-5 until end of turn.
"You serve Phyrexia. Your pieces would better serve Phyrexia elsewhere." —Azax-Azog, the Demon Thane

https://scryfall.com/card/dft/103/risky-shortcut

Risky Shortcut <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Sorcery
Draw two cards. Each player loses 2 life.
"Don't think of it as cheating, think of it as track they forgot to lay out for us." —Rido, Endrider

[lusty igloo]

Smothering tithe is the best

Rhystic, fierce, force of Will, necropotence, and the one ring are choices for the other two.

Just use the three you got minus tpro and you're good

If you're on bolas Citadel you need to add sensei's divining top. Goes infinite with papalymo and sheolrded, 80% chance to do 40 dmg with no open mana and 20 life with just Yshtola on board

[lusty igloo]

Risky shortcuts is likely synergy bait. It's just not as good as stock up

[grand thunder]

3 mana for 3 cards isn't bad

[maiden widget]

Risky shortcut is good if you aim for casual if you optimize it for high 4 or cedh then lol

[lusty igloo]

I think consult the star charts and stock up outperform, it needs Yshtola on board to get the third meaning turn 3 it's often in optimal to play. In general I like seeing more cards than raw draw

[lusty igloo]

glacial chasm is probably a fringe GC choice

[maiden widget]

If you want a high power casual yshtola prolly stick with Fierce, tithe, and T pro

[lusty igloo]

its probably fierce tithe rhystic

i dont believe in tpro

[grand thunder]

Is gush used?

Maybe unmask

[maiden widget]

Not too casual with rustic

Rystic*

[lusty igloo]

unless ur in very high power no

[lusty igloo]

1-for-1 thoughtsieze effects not good in commander

[maiden widget]

I like [[mai, scorn]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/109/mai-scornful-striker

Mai, Scornful Striker <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Noble Ally
First strike
Whenever a player casts a noncreature spell, they lose 2 life.
"You miscalculated. I love Zuko more than I fear you."
2/2

[lusty igloo]

in b3 the problem is the person playing lots of noncreatures is porbably just yourself 😭

i think she's a competitive option for b4

[umbral ruin]

OH SO THATS WHY SHEOLDRED WORKS

[near birch]

Mine are Fierce guardianship, Force of Will and Bolas's Citedal. Free protection spells and free casting are a must.

[green vigil]

Necropotence. Rhystic study and Smothering tithe are strong. But necro will always be a top 3 card in any deck that utilizes it.

[umbral ruin]

This is kinda dumb but I want to commission custom copy tokens

[fervent burrow]

Ive been using the art cards as my copies but ive heard of worse commissions

[lusty igloo]

Same

[grand thunder]

What about delney?

[lusty igloo]

My GOAT

? What's the question btw

[grand thunder]

I mean if you're running delney what about throne?

[lusty igloo]

Doodoo

[grand thunder]

It's one more and makes it have 3 triggers with del

[lusty igloo]

Go crinji gi

[daring oriole]

is having both leyline of anticiption and vedalken orrery overkill? or should i swap vedalken with vally flood caller 🤔

[lusty igloo]

Bruh I thought u were answering for me

[daring oriole]

LOL

[[ley line of anticiption]] [[vedalken orrery]] [[valley flood caller]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/726/leyline-of-anticipation

Leyline of Anticipation <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
If this card is in your opening hand, you may begin the game with it on the battlefield.
You may cast spells as though they had flash.

https://scryfall.com/card/2x2/317/vedalken-orrery

Vedalken Orrery <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
You may cast spells as though they had flash.
The model incorporated the fifth sun effortlessly, as if it had always known.

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/79/valley-floodcaller

Valley Floodcaller <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Otter Wizard
Flash
You may cast noncreature spells as though they had flash.
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Birds, Frogs, Otters, and Rats you control get +1/+1 until end of turn. Untap them.
2/2

[lusty igloo]

Delney is insane to play on curve, and also buffs Yshtola best creatures: esper sentinel, papalymo, faerie mastermind, lotho, kambal, orcish bowmasters, the list goes on and on

[daring oriole]

dont even know what to answer to xD

but roaming just acts like another doubler and only triggers for cat/warlock

[lusty igloo]

Roaming throne is categorically worse than a no legendary clone of yshtola. Kill Yshtola roaming throne sits on its ass does literally nothing. Kill Yshtola with clone and u have other Yshtola. Both cloen and roaming throne make u do 4 per and draw 2 at end step

[daring oriole]

^

way better explaination

[grand thunder]

What about wall of blood esque cards?

[lusty igloo]

How many noncreatures that are instants do u rly need

Arent

Esp in b3

[daring oriole]

wouldnt delney also trigger [[tandem lookout]] twice too?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mm3/53/tandem-lookout

Tandem Lookout <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Human Scout
Soulbond (You may pair this creature with another unpaired creature when either enters. They remain paired for as long as you control both of them.)
As long as Tandem Lookout is paired with another creature, each of those creatures has "Whenever this creature deals damage to an opponent, draw a card."
2/1

[lusty igloo]

Flash gets better and better the higher up u go

[lusty igloo]

Ya. It doubles curiosity effects

Except helm of the ghastlord

Idiot makes Yshtola too beeg

[daring oriole]

yeah helm bricks it

ive considered cutting helm so many times

[lusty igloo]

We need the redundancy in low power. Drop that trash when u got vampiric enlightened and imperial seal

Anyway flash and Grand abolsiher effects are b4/b5 stuff. They're superfluous in b3

[grand thunder]

[[Wall of Blood]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mrd/82/wall-of-blood

Wall of Blood <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Wall
Defender (This creature can't attack.)
Pay 1 life: This creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.
Blood is thicker than mortar.
0/2

[grand thunder]

Nothing like that?

[lusty igloo]

Vaklyrn ornery u gotta be desperate for flash like playing Azula or something . Yshtola don't need flash that bad

[lusty igloo]

No

[daring oriole]

currently running 23 instants but 36 cards gets to be played at flash speed..

[lusty igloo]

Too much for do nothinger. The life loss will add up

[grand thunder]

I like using small teferi in my ysh

Usually ends games quick asf

[lusty igloo]

36 noncreature non instant?

[daring oriole]

oh woops, 24*

i am running 12 creatures excluding ysh

[grand thunder]

What about mai and kambal?

[daring oriole]

so what im hearing is... maybe i can swap orrery for [[tarnished citadel]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ody/329/tarnished-citadel

Tarnished Citadel

Land
: Add .
: Add one mana of any color. This land deals 3 damage to you.

[lusty igloo]

T3F isn't that game breaking in low power. The problem with t3f kitten combo is that u don't have chrome mox, mox diamond, lotus petal, mana vault, and mox opal in b3, the combo is inconsistent

[lusty igloo]

Good in b3. Versus some archetypes kambal puts in work. I like the life gain too much to run mai instead. But mai might go in b4 builds maybe?

[grand thunder]

Both are good for redundancy

[lusty igloo]

More relic of legends stuff, delney fans, and bait for edict effects

[grand thunder]

Wish they both worked with lifelink

[lusty igloo]

Well that would be further bait to put life link in the deck

Which we shouldn't do

[grand thunder]

How often do you commit crimes?

[lusty igloo]

Uhhhh medium?

Like a third of a sepiroth deck 💀

[grand thunder]

What about kaervek?

[lusty igloo]

Who

[grand thunder]

[[Kaervek, the Punisher]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otj/92/kaervek-the-punisher

Kaervek, the Punisher <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Warlock
Whenever you commit a crime, exile up to one target black card from your graveyard and copy it. You may cast the copy. If you do, you lose 2 life. (Targeting opponents, anything they control, and/or cards in their graveyards is a crime. Copies of permanent spells become tokens.)
3/3

[lusty igloo]

No

Lots of crimes and spells are blue from counterspells

[grand thunder]

That's why I asked how often you commit crimes

[lusty igloo]

Well I mean u just don't have many black spells to get back

And it's not even repeatable

[grand thunder]

Yeah since it's only black cards

Though painter servant is a thing ig

Reminds me of the mono black deck that uses painter servant to pick green

[sacred galleon]

might try out [[keen duelist]] as a politics piece and maybe take some of the pressure off shtola as a target

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/42/keen-duelist

Keen Duelist <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manab:292901508872273920>

Creature — Human Wizard
At the beginning of your upkeep, you and target opponent each reveal the top card of your library. You each lose life equal to the mana value of the card revealed by the other player. You each put the card you revealed into your hand.
2/2

[lusty igloo]

Yshtola has settled as KOS, just pack protection and don't rely on people not recognizing ur danger

[sacred galleon]

thats fair, it took like 0.75 games of me playing her for my pod to settle on that anyways

[grand thunder]

What about [[Vile consumption]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/inv/285/vile-consumption

Vile Consumption <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
All creatures have "At the beginning of your upkeep, sacrifice this creature unless you pay 1 life."
The plague moved faster than an army and was far more deadly.

[sacred galleon]

i also kinda like it as an early creature i dont care much about losing but also enables drawing into the counters and protection i need to hold up as soon as shotla comes out anyways

@grand thunder im experimenting with esper fairy flash/tokens as a more defensive option so this kinda goes against that plan

[lusty igloo]

No I had this initially. U don't need much help getting to 4 threshold

And the go wide player will come for ur bum EVERY turn

[sacred galleon]

i love the idea of yshtola being a hidden fairy deck, since she hides her cutesy personality in the game especially during il mehg when youre dealign with titania

[lusty igloo]

In general keep the drain package light and only of the best cards: blood chief ascension, sheolsred,etc.

People naturally hit 4, DMG every turn, and it doesn't take long for you to do it yourself multiple turns a cycle

[grand thunder]

Idk I still like press the enemy

[lusty igloo]

If u like the card keep it

[grand thunder]

It's a trigger that gets another one

With a Lil bit of protection

[sacred galleon]

idk most of the time my pod would get wary of combat as soon as she hit the field other than smacking me in the face to even out the card draw. which is why i wanted to opt for some of the fairy go-wide tokens

[daring oriole]

[[Alela, Cunning Conqueror]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/woc/3/alela-cunning-conqueror

Alela, Cunning Conqueror <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Faerie Warlock
Flying
Whenever you cast your first spell during each opponent's turn, create a 1/1 black Faerie Rogue creature token with flying.
Whenever one or more Faeries you control deal combat damage to a player, goad target creature that player controls.
2/4

[sacred galleon]

think alela cunning conqueror hidden commander lol

[daring oriole]

[sacred galleon]

yep lmao

[grand thunder]

Illusionist bracers?

[sacred galleon]

goad is pretty goated from my experience, [[the master, mesmerist]] has been tons of fun

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/145/the-master-mesmerist

The Master, Mesmerist <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Time Lord Rogue
: Target creature an opponent controls with power less than or equal to The Master's power gains skulk until end of turn. Goad it. (A creature with skulk can't be blocked by creatures with greater power.)
Whenever a creature with skulk deals combat damage to one of your opponents, put a +1/+1 counter on The Master and draw a card.
3/3

[sacred galleon]

too much mana imo

[daring oriole]

ive thought of this as well, with delney to double the tokens and goad each combat is kinda fire

[sacred galleon]

you need to hold up interaction, if you want clone effects ive had the best with the noncreature clones like [[quantum misalignment]] and [[irinicus' vile duplication]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/who/52/quantum-misalignment

Quantum Misalignment <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except it isn't legendary.
Rebound (If you cast this spell from your hand, exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast this card from exile without paying its mana cost.)

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/78/irenicuss-vile-duplication

Irenicus's Vile Duplication <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except the token has flying and it isn't legendary.
"You will serve me better in this form." —Jon Irenicus

[sacred galleon]

i do have delney in the deck yeah lol

double spelling is the trap of the deck, you get really oppressive when each noncreature spell is card neutral, not to mention the ones that can repeat or return

theres a part of me that wants to do stuff with suspend and time counter shenanigans in the same deck, but the deck feels too spread thin already

[grand thunder]

Greed bad?

[sacred galleon]

i like it too, nice little two card combo to force the draws to go through even without too much of your synergy pieces set up

[sacred galleon]

but greed fun

[grand thunder]

Same reason I use risky shortcut it gets there itself

[sacred galleon]

[lusty igloo]

Yeah pillowfort solitary and boardwipe package is what I run..my hot take is I don't even run swords to plowshares. I can't afford to I need 1v3 the table

[sacred galleon]

yeah no single target removal is not the way

you need removal engines

[lusty igloo]

There's a new one from avatar that makes her 4/4 (another delney / slaughter the strong anti synergy)

[sacred galleon]

hence why i was looking at things like [[suspended sentence]] to repeatedly kill stuff off the board thats coming my way

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/25/suspended-sentence

Suspended Sentence <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Destroy target creature an opponent controls. That player loses 3 life. Exile Suspended Sentence with three time counters on it.
Suspend 3— (Rather than cast this card from your hand, you may pay and exile it with three time counters on it. At the beginning of your upkeep, remove a time counter. When the last is removed, you may cast it without paying its mana cost.)

[lusty igloo]

Besides curiosity engines ofc like deadly rollick

[sacred galleon]

yeah i mean you want all the discounted and free stuff you can get

im more talking things like slaughter or sigil of sleep or ghoulish imppetus and stuff like that

[lusty igloo]

My fav Yshtola games are just gtindy midrange games where I don't have curiosity, I win thru my other enginee

[sacred galleon]

yeah curiosity effects kinda just blow things out

and draw a ton of aggro lol

[lusty igloo]

When I have a curiosity it just goes... Well y'all ficked up guess I draw my entire deck and stop everything u do till I blow everything in one turn

[daring oriole]

[[Ember Island Production
]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/48/ember-island-production

Ember Island Production <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Sorcery
Choose one—
• Create a token that's a copy of target creature you control, except it's not legendary and it's a 4/4 Hero in addition to its other types.
• Create a token that's a copy of target creature an opponent controls, except it's not legendary and it's a 2/2 Coward in addition to its other types.

[lusty igloo]

Yeah ts ass

I maybeeeeer would consider if it gave both

[daring oriole]

i found this never triggers twice in my games

[lusty igloo]

Slow

[daring oriole]

i cut it for [[curtain call]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/otc/130/curtains-call

Curtains' Call <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Undaunted (This spell costs less to cast for each opponent.)
Destroy two target creatures.
"We give the audience what they want." —Juri, proprietor of the Juri Revue

[daring oriole]

[lusty igloo]

Sus

Same mana cost for one sided board wipes to destroy a whooping one extra creature.... Not sure if budget pick or something

[green vigil]

Id just rather have cards like vow of loyalty where it really doesnt matter. Keep yshtola alive and force their creature to only attack other opponents

[near birch]

I play Valley Floodcaller in mine. Itself having flash is really nice!

[elder lagoon]

Undaunted makes it 3 mana

[lusty igloo]

Yeah I meant slaughter the strong and battle of bridgewater

[daring oriole]

but instant vs sorcery speed ' 3'

[lusty igloo]

Do wat u want, whatever makes u happy

I'm kind of reforming from micro-optimizng decks and just playing fun cards too

[near birch]

I only recently cut Curtains Call for [[Soul Shatter]]. I'll see how that plays out.

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/znr/127/soul-shatter

Soul Shatter <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Instant
Each opponent sacrifices a creature or planeswalker with the greatest mana value among creatures and planeswalkers they control.
The Kargan tribes share legends of the victory their ancestors won over the Akoum Skyclave, and its horrendous cost.

[wide quiver]

I love soul shatter

[elder lagoon]

@lofty iris

Just so you know where 😉

[lofty iris]

Yeh mikazuki linked me

[elder lagoon]

Oh they already sent you lol

My b

[lofty iris]

No worries.

I'll be here quite a bit soon. I need to get inspired for her

[fervent burrow]

Just check Pinned, we did a lot of work here lol

[lofty iris]

Holy shit you were not kidding

[fervent burrow]

I can at least say mine is up to date with the maybeboard full of upgrades haha

[lofty iris]

I have an idea for her, group slug by punishing draw..... would it work? And if so anyone already have a list?

[fervent burrow]

Now that one is a good question. Mine is definitely more on the control side

[lofty iris]

Mind linking?

Or do I just need to scroll through the lst

[elder lagoon]

I mean

If your strategy involves noncreature spells, y’shtola can accomodate

That’s a pretty popular one I think

[lofty iris]

So control spellsplinger

[fervent burrow]

3rd message in the thread! #1380962630499303434 message

[wide quiver]

I haven't touched my deck in a while

I've been on the mono colored train

[daring oriole]

https://archidekt.com/decks/17572304/v5_upgraded_ffxiv_scions_spellcraft

Could you re-pin mine and remove my old one xD
sorry

this is my paper deck, it'll be updated again with fetch lands but for this profile

[fervent burrow]

Do you always make a new deck each upgrade?

[umbral ruin]

I usually have a three list process

The first list lets me get an idea of what doesn’t work
Second refines it
Third is usually the final version and gets edited with any further changes

[fervent burrow]

I just save renditions as snapshots on Archidekt at least

(Though people might not know that exists)

I wish I had my original Chatterfang deck though, I made that before it was a feature

[wide quiver]

I definitely didn't know it existed

I nuked my bumbleflower deck so hard, I can't reconstruct it. Snapshotting would've helped a lot lol

[fervent burrow]

If its still the same deck, the "deck history" does keep a lot of all changes

Since about 2022

[wide quiver]

Oh neat. I'll use that functionality at some point then

[fervent burrow]

Its a little annoying because it jjst shows "added" or "removed" for each individual card... but a second monitor and copies of the deck will do wonders.

[daring oriole]

It's easier for me to know when and what i swapped out to easily power down the deck per pod i play in, i've only started TCGs about 5 months ago so it's a lot to track for me ' 3';

[elder mountain]

https://moxfield.com/decks/JZhm-WccpUCyZuEfM6vtXw

Here's my list. I admittedly have a lot of pet cards in it, like Steel of the Godhead (which I have loved since Shadowmoor) and Dream Trawler (Mainly a large stabilizing threat.) Plus my kind of play is Turn 4 End of Turn Gifts Ungiven into Unburial Rites + Dream Trawler. lol

My playgroup plays at what you could call... Bracket 3.5. We run as many game changers as we want, but often the decks are full of pet cards and "less efficient" cards we find sweet. lol

Probably thinking of cutting Show and Tell/Omniscience, but I mean... I get to put Omniscience into play.

[umbral ruin]

Got on rhystic study

Over fierce

Ngl I like it more

[elder lagoon]

Drawing cards is better than countering spells that’s true

[umbral ruin]

Yeah 😭

[near birch]

I favor free protection for her over cards like Rhystic Study. My deck draws plenty of cards.

https://moxfield.com/decks/o3HhUBXLl0-r2WxKDoITYA

Then again I play a lot of single draw three mana value cards.

[vital steppe]

exsanguinate is a very fun card

won a game off x=12

[elder mountain]

How are you liking the creature-based ramp over mana rocks?

[fervent burrow]

At that level theres stronger options - but yes I love it as well

[near birch]

They've done wonders honestly. They're very expendable (I run a decent amount of board wipes, creature based and otherwise) and they get the job done really well. I don't miss mana rocks in this deck at all!

[wide quiver]

I think I'd miss the signets, because I like hurting myself, but land ramp from creatures is the most resilient, yeah

[compact vine]

Just procured myself a copy of Snapcaster 🖤

The Chocobo version

[void grove]

I love the chocobo cards

[near birch]

I'm testing out [[submerge]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/nem/48/submerge

Submerge <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
If an opponent controls a Forest and you control an Island, you may cast this spell without paying its mana cost.
Put target creature on top of its owner's library.

[lusty igloo]

I play it

[green vigil]

Its fun. The chances of someone out of 3 not having a forest is slim

[upper fable]

Updated let me know what you guys think. Any suggestions?

https://moxfield.com/decks/w5UvqhTekkWWc2jnMhoGVw

[near birch]

Any particular reason for Wrath of God and Damnation? Is Kitten there for protection purposes?
I'm personally not a fan of Circle of Power. Hmmm how do you feel leaning heavily on 3 mana value mana rocks?

[upper fable]

the mana rocks seem to work out really nicely and as far as the other three the kitten helps the damnation and wrath are 2 i've been looking to take out. I agree with the circle too just not sure what to replace it with

[fervent burrow]

Damnation and Wrath have a series of "more ideal" boardwipes that dont kill Yshtola to be swapped with

For example [[battle of bywater]] or [[starfall invocation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/2/the-battle-of-bywater

The Battle of Bywater <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater. Then create a Food token for each creature you control. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
The Tooks marched in with Pippin at their head. Merry now had enough sturdy Hobbitry to deal with the ruffians.

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/34/starfall-invocation

Starfall Invocation <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Gift a card (You may promise an opponent a gift as you cast this spell. If you do, they draw a card before its other effects.)
Destroy all creatures. If the gift was promised, return a creature card put into your graveyard this way to the battlefield under your control.
Nothing lurks in the purity of the moon's light.

[maiden widget]

[[promise of loyalty]] [[slaughter the strong]] [[destined confrontation]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mkc/79/promise-of-loyalty

Promise of Loyalty <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player puts a vow counter on a creature they control and sacrifices the rest. Each of those creatures can't attack you or planeswalkers you control for as long as it has a vow counter on it.
"It's us against the world. Forever."

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/131/slaughter-the-strong

Slaughter the Strong <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player chooses any number of creatures they control with total power 4 or less, then sacrifices all other creatures they control.
"Cut the beasts out from under them and their strength is nothing." —Vona of Iedo, Butcher of Magan

https://scryfall.com/card/tla/15/destined-confrontation

Destined Confrontation <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Each player chooses any number of creatures they control with total power 4 or less, then sacrifices all other creatures they control.
"Just you and me, brother. The showdown that was always meant to be." —Azula

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/449/fated-clash

Fated Clash <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
You may cast this spell as though it had flash if a creature is attacking and a creature is blocking.
Target creature you control and target creature an opponent controls each gain indestructible until end of turn. Then destroy all creatures.
"I'll show you who's the better man!" —Seifer Almasy

[compact vine]

I use Promise, Clash, and Damn

Only use Damn because if the FF secret lair

[compact vine]

This is still my favourite deck

[wide quiver]

I think I'm partly sour on it

Mine is kinda taken apart so I could use some of the blue pieces on my mono U deck

I'm kinda taking apart all my multi colored decks for mono color lol

(Except Jund, naturally)

[compact vine]

😦

Levi, you were the chosen one

You were supposed to bring balance to the decklist, not leave it in darkness!

[umbral ruin]

I wanna take my list apart

Just to feed the cards to my Cedh list

[wide quiver]

Join the disappointed in Levi club

[umbral ruin]

Man I really spent 1.5k on this deck only to want to take it apart

[maiden widget]

I took apart the list bc the amount of money I got I bought 2 decks lmao

[wide quiver]

My decks are all budget, so I don't know the feeling

[near birch]

Vaevictus reigns supreme!

[wide quiver]

Hell yeah

[umbral ruin]

Turbo seed is so fun tho

[west cedar]

hi guys i got yshtola precon as my chrtmas gift and tyring to figure out the best route togo with her with upgrsdes

still. hav eher in her precon state not sure which route to take it

https://archidekt.com/decks/18451599/yshtolla

this is whjat i have right now

i am not wanitng to g to hard in the deck just buget freidnly bracket 2 with minor upgrades

casue i only play b2

trying to keep it buget freindly b2

[soft peak]

There's a lot of ways to take her

what elements of the current deck do you like?

I would say build on those elements and cut what doesn't fit that gameplan

[soft peak]

im still liking it but

its the sweatiest of my decks

so i dont play it as much as I'd like

[compact vine]

Am happy

[west cedar]

i wan to foucs on the spellsligner gimicks to trigger ysholdas ablity often found this article online

https://edhrec.com/articles/lower-life-totals-on-a-budget-with-yshtola-nights-blessed

coudl i build this deck list or no

or maybe i should play her more

only did 1 game with her today

[soft peak]

Definitely I would suggest playing her more

get a feel for what cards aren't working as well as youd like and look for upgrades from there based on what feels like is lacking

if youre looking for easy upgrades

[lusty igloo]

add one of the 4 curiosities. dont add too many or yo'll move up to b3

[soft peak]

the curiosity package is the first place to start

curiosity, ophidian eye, Tandem Lookout

[lusty igloo]

i'd add some clone effects ig? that feels low power friendly

[soft peak]

I like dark mage's rod in low power y'shtola

helps with the spellslinging burn gameplan

Cornered by Black Mages is an option as well

(not the best removal in commander but its okay for b2 and gets you more wizards)

[fervent burrow]

The easiest thing to do is focus her more in on the "noncreature" casting if you ask me. The precon is a little disjointed there

[west cedar]

thats my plan

already lookig a wat ti cut found two things

[[coverted jewel]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/moc/353/coveted-jewel

Coveted Jewel <:mana6:292901508780130304>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, draw three cards.
: Add three mana of any one color.
Whenever one or more creatures an opponent controls attack you and aren't blocked, that player draws three cards and gains control of this artifact. Untap it.

[west cedar]

and[[archaeomancers map]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/12/archaeomancers-map

Archaeomancer's Map <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, search your library for up to two basic Plains cards, reveal them, put them into your hand, then shuffle.
Whenever a land an opponent controls enters, if that player controls more lands than you, you may put a land card from your hand onto the battlefield.

[west cedar]

or woudl you guys say the covertedjewel shoud stay

[fervent burrow]

I like Archaeomancers personally but coveted can be cut unless you double down on pillowfort a lot

[west cedar]

i see i ned to plau more

of the deck

befor edoing upgrades

but i think i will just go with upgrades

already know which route i am gona go

its goping to be non creature spell orute so i can trigger her abilty more

and a it of atack route to be able to trigger her other ability as well and some control

not tokens

but i ;like the noncreature startegy seeam easier for me

since sadly my deck building is kind of bad

i was only able to build one deck completly from scratch

and that was my assassins creed deck

but have improved it sinc the set released

[soft peak]

coveted jewel actually sounds like kind of a fire card in the right deck (NOT suggesting it for you)

looking to storm off and win that turn

with reducers that can cost a lot less than 6, then 3 of it is refunded. Worst case its 3 mana draw 3

maybe im crazy

[soft peak]

just takes practice

you'll get there I'm sure

[west cedar]

So I guess I should play a few more games with ysholda deck to get used to it and after a couple of games once I know how the deck works I should start upgrading

Inplayed my golgari precon before I figured out it's gimmick and then improved the deck

[lusty igloo]

it's a menace in um. mishra

[west cedar]

Will take me a while to figure out how to improve yshtolla precon lol

[soft peak]

maybe

I just go card at a time if I know I'm in the right direction already

maybe check other decklists pinned in this channel for inspiration when you have a card you want to replace

[maiden widget]

I bought another yshtola precon

[west cedar]

nicr

i really like yshtola deck but stillprecon will wait before improvements for it

[maiden widget]

Nah I get it for parts

Staple in there is good lol

[west cedar]

true as for me i need to figure out the best way to imprve the deck

defeintly going to aim to trigget ystollas

2 abilities often

I just font know where to start then again I haven't played the deck as much yet

To see wats needs to be cut a d wat doesn't

[high vine]

When you start try and find 3+ Mana Cost Spells that let you Cheat their Mana Cost.
Stuff like [[Unwind]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/dom/72/unwind

Unwind <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Counter target noncreature spell. Untap up to three lands.
"A problem is only a problem if you don't have the tools to correct it." —Jhoira

[high vine]

Or [[Franatic Search]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/153/frantic-search

Frantic Search <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Draw two cards, then discard two cards. Untap up to three lands.
It took the banning of temporal manipulation at Tolaria West to teach its students the value of time.

[high vine]

Second Y'shtola has a heavy target on her back so expect to get all sorts of Removal thrown in your general direction. So you either stuff your Deck with CounterSpells and Protection like [[Mother of Runes]] or you have secondary Options for winning that back you up when Yshtola is not around.

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/702/mother-of-runes

Mother of Runes <:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Creature — Human Cleric
: Target creature you control gains protection from the color of your choice until end of turn.
"My family protects all families."
1/1

[high vine]

3rd unless you are willing to swap out 20-30 Cards, you may aswell play around G'raha Tia.
Like in my current Version of Yshtola (excluding Staples like Void Rend, Swords or Talismans) I run 1 (2 when we count Tataru Taru) new Cards from the Precon and that is Papalymo totolymo.
Emet-Selch can be good too, but is not suited for my build.

[west cedar]

Hi

So.i guess secondary win com could be alternate commander

Also from the two commanders in the deck know yshtola is better but like you said a heavy targer

I just watched a video with upgrading suggestions but not sure it's wat I am going for

https://moxfield.com/decks/EyiMAHEYjkCZr8h4VRTmHA

Is the check more designed for alternate commander then yshtola

Here is the thing not sure the deck has enough cards for yshtola sprllslongervdevk it it more designed and suitable for graha

Cause I don't know atm

And never really played spellslinger decks

Wat would u suggest

Had one spellslinger deck from streets of new happens never touched it

So notvsure wats would be better approach

Is it easier to build around the second commander

[daring oriole]

I think if you play in paper, Graha Tia is less expensive but plays differently from Yshtola where graha is more go wide/token deck while yshtola is a mid range deck that'll usually has a tap and go playstyle, holding up interaction for protection or disrupting enemies game plans

as far as i've seen, lots of yshtola decks play pretty similarly either winning off burning players with clones or T.oracle & D.con combo or bolas & top or infect

[west cedar]

I see I have the physical deck

And it's phydical deck I want to improve i just don't know which one would be easier to play the spellslinger orchestra tokens i like yshtola ability however she will be high target

I have the physical precon

Just still haven't figured out which way I want to ystolla seems more fun and powerful and tryinhvyo kero it budget friendly with orecon uograde

Atm I just have the physical precon

But would like to improve it keeping i budget friendly eventually however I don't know wat I want to go for ystolaa spellslinger or something else but never played spellslingers

Deck strategy before

So not sure wat I should fo

Want to just upgrade my physical precon since I own it not building from scratch but want to keep budget friendly

[daring oriole]

When i started upgrading my precon, i followed this video https://youtu.be/rt6YOBE0cDM

[west cedar]

I see

Yeah I prefer ystolla great passive so will do spellslingers

[daring oriole]

i would say if you do consider getting [[Staff of Compleation]], i'd just opt for a [[Black Market Connections]] instead

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/326/staff-of-compleation

Staff of Compleation <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
, Pay 1 life: Destroy target permanent you own.
, Pay 2 life: Add one mana of any color.
, Pay 3 life: Proliferate.
, Pay 4 life: Draw a card.
: Untap this artifact.

https://scryfall.com/card/lcc/181/black-market-connections

Black Market Connections <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
At the beginning of your first main phase, choose one or more —
• Sell Contraband — Create a Treasure token. You lose 1 life.
• Buy Information — Draw a card. You lose 2 life.
• Hire a Mercenary — Create a 3/2 colorless Shapeshifter creature token with changeling. You lose 3 life. (It is every creature type.)

[daring oriole]

[[Decanter of Endless Water]] is 1 generic more than [[Thought vessel]] so i'd personally opt for a [[reliquary tower]] instead

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/clb/309/decanter-of-endless-water

Decanter of Endless Water <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
You have no maximum hand size.
: Add one mana of any color.
"Now, remember: Under no circumstances should you utter the word 'geyser' in the same room as—oh, blast it!" —Bindlehaim, Upper City merchant

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/256/thought-vessel

Thought Vessel <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
You have no maximum hand size.
: Add .
Infinite possibilities contained in a finite space.

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/386/reliquary-tower

Reliquary Tower

Land
You have no maximum hand size.
: Add .
Once guarded by the Knights of the Reliquary, the tower stands now protected only by its own remoteness, its dusty treasures open to plunder by anyone.

[daring oriole]

just keep in mind, this is not a spellslinger deck, it's control/mid range

[west cedar]

i never played decks like those

msot of my decks are eitehr triabl

either tribal

this ae the decks i been urnning msotly

as you can ee tribal demon

winter golgari

nasim voltron and assasin tribal

and my kefka deck cloning him and such

so i don tknow what type of dech ystolla

is

and what i should go for

[daring oriole]

it's a slow deck, play slow 👍

[west cedar]

most of my deck are slow

my demons take3 to 4 yutnrs to get going

and my winter takes a while to get going to

but i play casual b2

[daring oriole]

you wont get things going until like 5-6 in b2

[west cedar]

thats wat i ment

i am keeping them to b2

since i play casual

[west cedar]

is the deckpretyy well set up for ystoraas precon or shoulkd icut cards that dont fit the theme

[compact vine]

There are a lot of cuttable cards

[west cedar]

i followed avideo guide

so gonan upgrade deck

with the video

[high vine]

Slow is less about the Tempo, its more question how you pace your own Cards.
In Tribal Decks you usually Play big Boards that swing for Game after building up Board Presence. With Y'shtola, Yshtola is your Board Presence. Their are Turns where you Draw a Card, Play a Land then Pass play to the next Player. I can Show you my Version as reference xD

https://archidekt.com/decks/13612460/cat_girl_power

[west cedar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/18451599/yshtolla this is my deck now

i been not drawing any plains

when i followed a video

just did a game an dwasnt getting any white lands

do you think i need more plains?

i feel like not enough white mana

[high vine]

Ok I generally think from what I have seen you got the right Idea with the Deck. The Mana production according to the blips should be fine with the white

Some things I would probably adjust the Removal to be more efficient by running less Removal and more straight Up CounterSpells. The Goal of your Removal should be less about Killing your opponents Plans, but more about stopping then from removing Yshtola

I would probably replace something like Cleansing Nova with [[Tragic Arrogance]] or [[Starfall Invication]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c21/109/tragic-arrogance

Tragic Arrogance <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
For each player, you choose from among the permanents that player controls an artifact, a creature, an enchantment, and a planeswalker. Then each player sacrifices all other nonland permanents they control.
The spear thrown by Kytheon's own hand was the weapon that felled his friends.

https://scryfall.com/card/blb/34/starfall-invocation

Starfall Invocation <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Gift a card (You may promise an opponent a gift as you cast this spell. If you do, they draw a card before its other effects.)
Destroy all creatures. If the gift was promised, return a creature card put into your graveyard this way to the battlefield under your control.
Nothing lurks in the purity of the moon's light.

[high vine]

[[Battle of Bywater]] is also quite good

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ltr/2/the-battle-of-bywater

The Battle of Bywater <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manaw:1007102126813610074>

Sorcery
Destroy all creatures with power 3 or greater. Then create a Food token for each creature you control. (It's an artifact with ", , Sacrifice this token: You gain 3 life.")
The Tooks marched in with Pippin at their head. Merry now had enough sturdy Hobbitry to deal with the ruffians.

[west cedar]

just follwoe da video guide

[west cedar]

yeah i was planign to add coutnerspell

and possible arcane denial

[west cedar]

until i get the upgrades fwoudl you saythe precon is better strucvtured and build ofr alternate commander out of the box?

[maiden widget]

Funny enough, graha tia I feel like a better lead the precon

[west cedar]

That's wat I been thinkiking until I upgraded it to yshtola

Got an upgraded list on archidevkt but not in rk atm

Just the badic precon would u day go graham Tia for now

@maiden widget

[maiden widget]

Its half joke but to upgrade yshtola you cut all 99 and get whole new 99

[west cedar]

I see

The thing is I want to keep it budget friendly

But i never really played heavy control or spellslinger s

Not really my favorite way to play

But she seems powerful the only issue is not sure if the upgrade video i watched will even help

I never played spellslinger or heavy control

Don't know wat to do

I am not a heavy control player or spellslinger

[maiden widget]

Either that or a bunch of hatebear that drain opponent

And combo wins

[west cedar]

I had one spellslinger deck from streets nmof new happens was gryxis

The commander was [[Angelo the painter]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ncc/186/anhelo-the-painter

Anhelo, the Painter <:manau:292901508754702338><:manab:292901508872273920><:manar:292901508796645397>

Legendary Creature — Vampire Assassin
Deathtouch
The first instant or sorcery spell you cast each turn has casualty 2. (As you cast that spell, you may sacrifice a creature with power 2 or greater. When you do, copy the spell and you may choose new targets for the copy.)
Every work of art is a hit.
1/3

[west cedar]

And I never touched it

Only once that's it

So spellslinger and storm and heavy control was never really my playstyle

Hot this precon as Christmas hift

Gift

So trying to figure out

If go with yshtola for upgraded budget wise

Or the alternate commander

Wantcto keep it casual braket 2 friendly

So I am stuck

And dont know wat to do

Sadly

If go ystolla heavy control and life drain or no

[west cedar]

So am stuck

[soft peak]

I would avoid storm

For bracket 2

[west cedar]

Yeah I want to do thay

I don't want to play storm

[soft peak]

What do you want to play? Slow burn spellslinger?

[west cedar]

I think so

Atm since I don't have the cards i might use the alternate commander

[soft peak]

Worth a shot

[west cedar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/18451599/yshtolla

This is wat I got now with some upgrades from a video I watched

[soft peak]

I HIGHLY recommend taking out helm of the ghastlord

That card is definitely too much for b2

The rest looks pretty sensible

[west cedar]

so i made up my mind

swaped fro yshtola to the alternate commander

will be easier for me cause i dont like playing high control

or heavy spellslinger

[rough remnant]

You only playing 3 of the cards because of me 😂 Love it

Graveyard hate is underrated

[high vine]

#localmeta

[rough remnant]

You love playing stax

[west cedar]

hi all

so i sort of finsiehd my yshotal deck but chanegd the commander

and wen with aleternate commander

https://archidekt.com/decks/18513241/graha_tia is thsi a good start

is this adecent upgrade

[west cedar]

anyone abel tpo help me adjust m,y deck a bit

i got idea wat else to add

but not exacly sure

wat to cut

[west cedar]

Would u all say this is good upgrade start forcthe precon

[lusty igloo]

The cat girl turned into a cat boy

Something went wrong

[maiden widget]

Not thing. Wrong with my baby boy graha

[west cedar]

isth deck doen ok

i swapepd to the alternate comamdner

was aiming for yshtola

deck but it was diffuckt for me to coem up with it

casue i dont play heavy cointrol or spellslinger decks

[west cedar]

I could use your guys opinion

On my deck upgrade fir yshtola

[maiden widget]

@west cedar so do you want to play yshtola or graha ?

[west cedar]

Let me hop on dm and wr can voice if yoy got time

Will be easier to explain

I think

Only if you got time

[maiden widget]

I’m at work

[west cedar]

Ah ok

[maiden widget]

So I can’t read too much

[west cedar]

I was aiming for ishtola she seemed fun but heard that for her you need completely new 99 card deck

[maiden widget]

Yes you kinda do

[west cedar]

Yeah I don't want to do that

[maiden widget]

Or at least like 80% of it

[west cedar]

Just want to upgrad the precin

Precon

[maiden widget]

To be fair the whole deck itself kinda a messed

[west cedar]

And I am not a really heavy spellslinger or high control player

I see

And I mostly play casual bracket 2

[maiden widget]

Well might I suggest picking another commander ? Bc it’s pretty much what yshtola trying to do

[west cedar]

My brother got me this deck for Christmas

[maiden widget]

Unless you want to play enchantress hatebear yshtola

[west cedar]

Soni ended up swaping to gra ha

Am mostly a midrange player

Most of my decks I play are mid rsnge

Probably might be easier if I share a screenshot of all my decks I have so fsr and we can go from there

[maiden widget]

Well gra ha is what you can do

[west cedar]

Thats what I am doing

[maiden widget]

But you still have to swap out a bunch of thing

[west cedar]

I think I swapped a couple of cards already

Yeah I am not a heavy control player

[maiden widget]

graha super friend

[west cedar]

Already cut a few cards

Trying to just see if I can upgrade the precon already spent 200 dollars for my bw clone cadual Kafka deck

Which I had to.build from scratch

The only spellslinger deck I ever had was from New cappena the maestro something that copies non creature spells

And played it once never touched it again after

This is what my decks I play look like @maiden widget already cut a few from my. Yshtola precin and swapped to gre ha

[maiden widget]

Even graha most of the time still lean toward control

[west cedar]

But maybe not as super heavy as yshtola thiugh

And another reason is cause she is a primary target

[maiden widget]

But you can totally make a soul sister graha deck that make token and go to combat

[west cedar]

If I was to play her

I still feel like yhstola is more heavy control focused commander

Then graha

I was just never a fan of heavy control decks or spellslinger to be honest

my brother got me this deck so trying to figure out what the best to go

I had a other final fantasy deck precon but took it apart it was amrdu reanimatiom

[maiden widget]

It’s a pretty good looking graha token deck you can take a look

https://www.mtggoldfish.com/deck/7370824#paper

[west cedar]

The first one i bought was revival trance

And what about my graha deck

I have so far

https://archidekt.com/decks/18513241/graha_tia this is mine

Tried upgrading the orecon a bit

Not sure if i shpypd buils this nonchalant reatue deck or go back and rework my tessa.deck

[maiden widget]

Pretty much still like the precon

[west cedar]

Ywah have not done much my deck building skills are crap

So I don't really know wat to do and which way to go

[maiden widget]

It’s not about how good you are it’s just the precon just very unfocus

[west cedar]

I see

[maiden widget]

That’s why to approach this I rather start from the commander

From scratch

[west cedar]

I been hearing that precon is a bit better aimed towards graha

I see the problem is I already sent so much money on building a few decks from scratch in rl

And upgrading one precon

Like my assassins deck and Kafka is from scratch

While my demon tribal was a revamp of the warhammer precon

I just can't do spellslingers sadly

Or heavy control not really my playstyle

I am more used to graveyard shinenigans and reanimate

And tribal

[maiden widget]

Like you can make it into funny job select then go to combat

[west cedar]

I see

[maiden widget]

But then you still have to cut like all the creature from the deck and get new one

[west cedar]

Would [[Terra heralded hope]] is easier to make then this

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/223/terra-herald-of-hope

Terra, Herald of Hope <:manar:292901508796645397><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manab:292901508872273920>

Legendary Creature — Human Wizard Warrior
Trance — At the beginning of combat on your turn, mill two cards. Terra gains flying until end of turn.
Whenever Terra deals combat damage to a player, you may pay . When you do, return target creature card with power 3 or less from your graveyard to the battlefield tapped.
3/3

[west cedar]

Cause I have the precin for her

I got her precon and then yshtola precon from final fantasy

I was jsut never really a fan of heavy control and spellslinging as I said I had one onlympalyed it once never touched again

And took it party recently

I just don't want to spend the money right now

Already spend so much to finish my demon tribal and the Kafka from scratch

So I thought it would be easier just to upgrade this one with maybe 5 or 10 cards for gaha

Route

And can save my money the budget for is 150 max canadian

Cause I just olay casul bracket 2

Not comp.

[maiden widget]

Yeah she’s fine

Never explore her too much

[west cedar]

If I don't want to lean into heavy control and spellslinging

And build from scratch

At least for now

[maiden widget]

But she’s fun to play if you upgrade by adding more good reanimate target and more card from that reanimating

[west cedar]

I see

I took her deck apart to sadly

I just don't know if I should even go I to building decks for either yshtolla or graha for rl play

Cause as I said am not a co troll or spellslinger player

[maiden widget]

The problem with FF precon is that they tried to fit all characters in the deck so most of them become very unfocus

[west cedar]

That makes sense

Actually especially the cloud strife one

Yeah this year was kind of weak for precons

[maiden widget]

They are all fine to play

To upgrade to be good

It will be time consuming

[west cedar]

Yeah that much i know

I just want to upgeade a precon lol

I am jsut wondering if it would be easier to upgrade this precon or my Tessa precon

I have more red/black and blue cards then white

[maiden widget]

Yshtola is not a deck to upgrade it’s for take the commander out and build something new

[west cedar]

I see

Because I am mostly dimir,golgari and gryxis player

Decks

[west cedar]

I think I will jsur follow a youtube $100 upgrade guide and that's it

Instead of breaking my head 9n making from scratch

[west cedar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/18568320/copy_of_scions_spellcraft_final_fantasy_commander have a copy of ysthola deck and a gra ha deck

wat would you sa yabut this one

still figureoing out which route iwil lgo iom paper if its gonna be one of the two from siocns and spell craft or terra

[lusty igloo]

send ur yshtola list @west cedar i have like 30. min

[maiden widget]

It’s this one @lusty igloo

[west cedar]

I made a yshtola and graba

[lusty igloo]

it's the same exact list with just the two commanders swapped?

[west cedar]

Graha

But yeah cause I don't know what i want to go for

[maiden widget]

They don’t want spell sling nor control

[west cedar]

I want to keep it budget friendly for bracket 2 casual and can't decide between yshtola or grahs

[maiden widget]

So I can’t help much bc that 2 things yshtola want to do

😂

[west cedar]

Yeah am not a control or spellslinger player

So that's why it's maybe graha and if not then Terra

[lusty igloo]

hmmmmm well yshtola isnt inherently control but she is inherently spellslinger

[west cedar]

Mardu reanimate

[lusty igloo]

yeah i'd just play smeone else

[west cedar]

I would not mind experimenting a new strategy

[lusty igloo]

ah okay

[west cedar]

But this is are most of my decks

Thats my 5 decks I have

[maiden widget]

But yeah play something other than yshtola

[west cedar]

5th one being graha

[maiden widget]

Keep it as precon and play at lower bracket table

Problem solved

[west cedar]

I only play bracket 2

[maiden widget]

So yes

[lusty igloo]

so is that graha list the one u have

for yshtola

[west cedar]

Instead of yshtola yes

[lusty igloo]

wait i gtg eat brb in afew min

[maiden widget]

Dont touch yshtola at all and try to focus your resources elsewhere

[west cedar]

Already did some small adjustments to the deck but for graha from whatever I had I my tl colelcion

It's still mainly precon but some changes

[maiden widget]

Yeah then it’s fine it’s seem like the deck is not what your play style is don’t force it

[lusty igloo]

i mean i wouldnt say that for someone that hasn't tried control / spellslingerbefore

it's good to try new archetypes

[maiden widget]

They did they don’t like it

[west cedar]

The only spellslinger I had before was tbis deck

[lusty igloo]

they just saidthey were willing to experiment a new strategy

[west cedar]

Yeab

[maiden widget]

Like I’m open to give a good yshtola bracket 2-3 list together r

[west cedar]

Just don't want to lean into control

[maiden widget]

Bc it’s not hard

[west cedar]

I am gonna be heading to bed it's 2am

[maiden widget]

But that require you to like cut 80% of the deck

🫡

[west cedar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/13106730/revival_trance_final_fantasy_commander

This was my first final fantasy precon I picked up back in europe

And the only spellslsinger I had before was this one https://archidekt.com/decks/2617761/maestros_massacre_new_capenna_commander

But I was so confused by it

It had to be a spellslinger noe thst i think about it

[west cedar]

No because heavy control players are hated and yhstolla will always paint a target on my field if I play her

I was thinking going back to Terra reanimate but I already l ow that strategy it's nothing new for me

[maiden widget]

https://moxfield.com/decks/FPa4C87a3ESi8-UVNzzflA this is what I think a playable yshtola list is

Doesn’t have any gamechanger i think

But it’s too gross to be b2 lol

[lusty igloo]

? i dont see it

[west cedar]

I will fix it

You can look at my graha k might go thst route

[lusty igloo]

OK SEND JUS ONE LINK IM SEEING TOO MANY

[maiden widget]

Yes I put it together in like 20 mins

[west cedar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/18513241/graha_tia

I am considering this strategy instead of ehat yshtola does she seems fun but she seems more for heavy control players and people that are used to spellslingers

Me I come from tribal decks and reanimate decks

I used to have a help deck but took it apart

And also Terra precon

This graha is wat I did still precon with a few minor tweaks from cards in my collecio

But anyway I am heading to sleep

[maiden widget]

@lusty igloo what you think about this shell I slapped together ?

https://moxfield.com/decks/FPa4C87a3ESi8-UVNzzflA

[lusty igloo]

lookin thru cheap card recommednations:

Core Cards: Tandem Lookout, Curiosity, Solitary Confinement (don't add the other 2, this is already a lot for b2)

light boardwipe package (replace the ones you currently have):
Tragic Arrogance, Slaughter the Strong, Promise of Loyalty, Unstable Glyphbridge // Sandswirl Wanderglyph

some control:
An Offer You Can't Refuse, Arcane Denial, Restoration Magic

some synergy pieces:
frantic search, snuff out, submerge,

mana:
mostly 2 mana rocks since you wanna boost our y'shtola a turn earlier, but u can do rleic of legends + bender's waterskin for 3's.

yeah it's fine

Bloodbender's Rise is a great find, it's so cheap version of bloodchief ascension

[maiden widget]

Add avatar wrath into the boardwipe list

[lusty igloo]

i do think the deck will benefit from delney's + quantum misalingment / irenicus, just as a way to close out

hmm not sure if those aer bang for buck

not sure how budget we are here

as for cuts lemme see

probably 70% of the deck is cuttable cant rly go wrong

they did a poor job with the precon in terms of power

Trash Tier;
Dark Knight's Greatsword, Paladin's Arms, Reaper's Scythe, Thief's Knife, Aerith Rescue Mission, Combat Tutorial, Cornered by Black Mages, Ardbert, Warrior of Darkness, Hildibrand Manderville // Gentleman's Rise, Krile Baldesion, Thancred Waters, Champions from Beyond

replace all your boardwipes with the ones listed. they fcost like 10 cents each and are really really powerful

[maiden widget]

They try to fit all the character from the game

[lusty igloo]

yeah ik

but overall you can upgrade a ton of cards in the precon and it'll still be b2 cuz they made it so weak

lim dul's vault is probably also bang for buck

im thinking of what is the pricey acrds we invest in. maybe it really is just delney's. but it depends how many valuable craetures delneys helps

Black Market Connections is pretty strong

[maiden widget]

[[greed]] is a fun option

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh2/274/greed

Greed <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
, Pay 2 life: Draw a card.
What is a sliver of one's soul compared to unimaginable wealth?

[lusty igloo]

prob not worf

[maiden widget]

It’s alright on extreme budget

People was on pyrexian area a

[lost flint]

Hello! This is my current list:
https://archidekt.com/decks/15608795/yshtola_grinding_gear
For context: my pod usually plays between bracket 3 and bracket 2, so I wanted to build a deck around Y'Shtola that didn't feel "too much". I like how it plays right now against the other decks, but I want some opinion about some possibile changes.
(I know that Approach isn't a favorite, but I included it as a way to close game against extreme lifegain and I didn't want to go for 2-card combos much closer to bracket 4 or reserve too many slots for a 3 card combo)

[compact vine]

There are some cards I feel don’t really fit. Graha unfortunately doesn’t help out gameplan, and we have card draw out the ass, so I feel Necropotence is wholly unnecessary for us

[west cedar]

Hi

[west cedar]

Hi

Yrah so I don't know wat yo do casue I don't really want to destroy the entire precon and buy from scratch

I just want to do a budget friendly upgrade

I don't know if this deck is my playstyle sadly

And I literally don't want to buy new batch of 99 vards

But yeah

Maybe might take this full deck apart and just make nardu reanimate with tarra Herald of hope

Maybe her precon is easier to upgrade and cheaper then yshtolla or gra ha

Just don't know

[west cedar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/18574746/copy_of_scions_spellcraft_final_fantasy_commander so i am experimetning with yshtolla have tw odecks from this on one wth the face comamdner and the ther wit hgraha

with some upgrades fro man article i read let me know if its ok

becaue i a mnot going to be building from scratch and 99 cards

[west cedar]

gonan try yeshtola wna tto tr ya new strategy and gameplay

and als ohave one for hgra ha but lt me knowwat you guys think its stil lin precon state with jus ta few card adjustmnts

[compact vine]

I think I’m having a stroke

[wide quiver]

They're typing with their feet

[lost flint]

I kept Necropotence because I did want some source of card advantage that didn't rely on Y'Shtola but still triggers her (plus it's kinda good-ish with Approach)... while Graha yes, I see what you mean

maybe I should just accept the fact that the deck won't ever be non-Y'Shtola dependant without combos and tutors

[compact vine]

Y’shtola just kind of… IS the deck

[lost flint]

Yeah, I just have to come to terms with it. 😅 Thanks for the reply!

[compact vine]

No worries!

Honestly I really like Alisaie and Alphinaud from the precon. Also Lyse is crazy value. I think she’s the best creature in that deck.

[[lyse hext]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/88/lyse-hext

Lyse Hext <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Human Rebel Monk
Prowess (Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature gets +1/+1 until end of turn.)
Noncreature spells you cast cost less to cast.
As long as you've cast two or more noncreature spells this turn, Lyse Hext has double strike.
2/2

[lost flint]

might give them a try

[compact vine]

Also [[hermes elpis]] or [[shark typhoon]] will help you establish blockers

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fic/36/hermes-overseer-of-elpis

Hermes, Overseer of Elpis <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create a 1/1 blue Bird creature token with flying and vigilance.
Whenever you attack with one or more Birds, scry 2.
"For us, there may be no higher purpose than to live for our world, but what of the other living beings out there?"
2/4

https://scryfall.com/card/dsc/127/shark-typhoon

Shark Typhoon <:mana5:292901508796645386><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying, where X is that spell's mana value.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle this card, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying.

[compact vine]

Since we’re not a creature heavy deck by design

[lost flint]

Yeah, that's why I initially kept Graha in

[compact vine]

Yeah, unfortunately Graha just doesn’t do it as well. I saw the vision though

Even though he is best boi in XIV

Hermes is probably better, but I run shark typhoon because it’s funny

[lost flint]

sharknado vibes, I guess

[west cedar]

https://archidekt.com/decks/18513241/graha_tia i changed my mind this is the deck i am going with

as my fina ldeck to build i nrl

but not sure i a mgoign by following a plan

but i think iudnerstand this deck and goign tokens

buff them up and atack

[compact vine]

I think I’m gonna throw in both white cards from the FFIX box

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/inr/272/tamiyos-journal

Tamiyo's Journal <:mana5:292901508796645386>

Legendary Artifact
At the beginning of your upkeep, investigate. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with ", Sacrifice this token: Draw a card.")
, Sacrifice three Clues: Search your library for a card, put that card into your hand, then shuffle.
Entry 434: There's more to Avacyn's madness . . .

https://scryfall.com/card/tdc/326/staff-of-compleation

Staff of Compleation <:mana3:292901508771610624>

Artifact
, Pay 1 life: Destroy target permanent you own.
, Pay 2 life: Add one mana of any color.
, Pay 3 life: Proliferate.
, Pay 4 life: Draw a card.
: Untap this artifact.

https://scryfall.com/card/td2/67/contagion-clasp

Contagion Clasp <:mana2:292901509060886528>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, put a -1/-1 counter on target creature.
, : Proliferate. (Choose any number of permanents and/or players, then give each another counter of each kind already there.)

[lusty igloo]

i just sent like 40 cuts/additions above lol

[west cedar]

all good

i did it myself

[west cedar]

all good i did it myself the deck hasa decent gamepan

not oging yshola stayed with gra ha so going go wide with tokens and swing for atack

with lifelink and such

cause i wil lbetkainbg alot of dmage from my commander

to create tokens

[urban haven]

would [[hubris]] make a good protection to bounce Y'shtola plus any good enchantments you want to save (sigil of sleep/helm of the ghastlord)?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/jou/41/hubris

Hubris <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Return target creature and all Auras attached to it to their owners' hands.
"You wish to learn of Nyx? Very well." —Phenax, god of deception

[fervent burrow]

If hexproof/indestructible aint doing it for you I could see that working

[willow steppe]

Guys

I finally got a copy of yshtola

And I’m making her artifacts

What should I do

[wide quiver]

put artifacts in it

[soft peak]

cost reducers to storm off I presume

and some precog engines like bolas's citadel and maybe [[mystic forge]]?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/964/mystic-forge

Mystic Forge <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
You may look at the top card of your library any time.
You may cast artifact spells and colorless spells from the top of your library.
, Pay 1 life: Exile the top card of your library.

[soft peak]

Haven't built her artifacts so idk but that's where I would go

[daring oriole]

[[unwinding clock]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/c18/228/unwinding-clock

Unwinding Clock <:mana4:292901508712890379>

Artifact
Untap all artifacts you control during each other player's untap step.
"The partisans have unearthed a strange artifact. None know its origin, but it gives them hope of a life beyond." —Elspeth's journal

[daring oriole]

[[synthesizer simulacrum]] i'd imagine

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/big/6/simulacrum-synthesizer

Simulacrum Synthesizer <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Artifact
When this artifact enters, scry 2.
Whenever another artifact you control with mana value 3 or greater enters, create a 0/0 colorless Construct artifact creature token with "This token gets +1/+1 for each artifact you control."

[wide quiver]

[[$simulacrum synthesizer]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/big/6/simulacrum-synthesizer

Prices for Simulacrum Synthesizer

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[near birch]

That needs a reprint

[daring oriole]

For those who run [[waterlogged teaching]], what instant card do you find yourself uniquely looking for or is it a mana dump card for specific scenario on a opponents end step

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/mh3/261/waterlogged-teachings-inundated-archive

Waterlogged Teachings <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manaub:292901509056692224>

Instant
Search your library for an instant card or a card with flash, reveal it, put it into your hand, then shuffle.
The long-dead librarians are still on hand to recommend selected titles.

Inundated Archive
Land
This land enters tapped.
: Add or .
Moldering tomes line rotting shelves. Generations of priceless knowledge fade from memory beneath the waves.

[maiden widget]

I saved this for free spell usually

Like flawless maneuver

Free counter spells (there is like a bunch of them)

Or deadly rollick

[wide quiver]

Yeah, it's partially due to the set it was printed in

[daring oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/great-teacher-onizuka-gto-realization-doomed-scared-gif-4330346

Oh yeah huh, i don't know why i never thought about looking for free spells

now i feel like it's less of a dead card in my hand 🤔

[daring oriole]

[[mirror form]] [[dream harvest]] anyone?

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/59/mirrorform

Mirrorform <:mana4:292901508712890379><:manau:292901508754702338><:manau:292901508754702338>

Instant
Each nonland permanent you control becomes a copy of target non-Aura permanent.
If you stare long enough at your reflection, your reflection starts staring back.

No card found for “dream harvest”

[fervent burrow]

Dream Harvest could be worth it but theres a lot of risk in relying on opponents to provide you with what you need

What am I copying with Mirrorform?

[elder lagoon]

Dream harvest is such a fun card

[wide quiver]

Dream harvest is really cool, yeah

Not exactly for yshtola though

I would love it for my gonti deck if they implement the hybrid mana rule though

[pulsar crown]

Put a dollar in the jar. :point_right::jar:

[daring oriole]

[[painful quandary]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/fdn/179/painful-quandary

Painful Quandary <:mana3:292901508771610624><:manab:292901508872273920><:manab:292901508872273920>

Enchantment
Whenever an opponent casts a spell, that player loses 5 life unless they discard a card.
In Mishra's desperation to destroy his brother, he allowed Gix to destroy him instead.

[umbral ruin]

It’s time

For me to take the deck apart

[fervent burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/monyetguru-pour-one-out-regular-show-mordecai-rigby-gif-26736212

Pour one out for the fallen

[umbral ruin]

Im tryna leave a toxic household

And the money is needed

I can always rebuild one day

Or proxy

[fervent burrow]

A good cause

[elder lagoon]

Best of luck to you!

[umbral ruin]

Yeah

[lusty igloo]

Are there any new cards from Lowryn for us

[elder mountain]

There's some jank I want to run.

[soft peak]

I like the look of [[Voracious Tome-Skimmer]] and [[Unwelcome Sprite]] for my deck

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/250/voracious-tome-skimmer

Voracious Tome-Skimmer <:manaub:292901509056692224><:manaub:292901509056692224><:manaub:292901509056692224>

Creature — Faerie Rogue
Flying
Whenever you cast a spell during an opponent's turn, you may pay 1 life. If you do, draw a card.
She spoils the book before you read it.
2/3

https://scryfall.com/card/ecl/81/unwelcome-sprite

Unwelcome Sprite <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manau:292901508754702338>

Creature — Faerie Rogue
Flying
Whenever you cast a spell during an opponent's turn, surveil 2. (Look at the top two cards of your library. You may put any number of them into your graveyard and the rest on top of your library in any order.)
2/1

[soft peak]

The first might replace wavebreak hippocamp

[wide quiver]

I think those are both great, but bad for ysh

[green vigil]

I can see voracious being solid here. Its additive card draw ontop of potentially triggering yshtola card draw.

[wide quiver]

Yeah it seems okay, like a [[hippocamp]]

[surreal shoal]

Multiple cards match “hippocamp”, can you be more specific?

[wide quiver]

[[wavebreak hippocamp]]

[surreal shoal]

https://scryfall.com/card/thb/80/wavebreak-hippocamp

Wavebreak Hippocamp <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manau:292901508754702338>

Enchantment Creature — Horse Fish
Whenever you cast your first spell during each opponent's turn, draw a card.
Tritons search for omens in its wake.
2/2

[maiden widget]

It’s funny that this one is not a faerie

[soft peak]

I'm actually replacing [[Archmage Emeritus]] with Voracious Tome-Skimmer, 4 cmc is a really rough spot. 3 should feel better