I do think it's better if you play all those new token cards
#Y'shtola Communal Brewing
pallid ocean
lusty igloo
procs Kambal, Consul of Allocation, sygg, witch enchanter, lotho
mild harness
the ones that make the wizards?
lusty igloo
does delney double [[tandem lookout]] ????
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pallid ocean
It checks for them separately iirc
lusty igloo
wdym
pallid ocean
So yshtola gets the ability from tandem, then Delaney doubles it
Tandem itself won't trigger since it isn't dealing dmg
lusty igloo
yeah i mean do i draw 6 cards
pallid ocean
Like each of the partners basically get the extra curiosity text added
lusty igloo
from one cmc 3
so much better than roaming throne imo
i cant find a reason to run roaming over something like sakishimi the impostor or spark double. because they still work if the original dies
the only scenario is when you have 2/3 y'shtolas, then roaming throne acts as 2/3 y'shtolas
but by then it's probably game over anyway...
pallid ocean
No it's 3 only
lusty igloo
or maybe not but still a strong-only-when-ahead
pallid ocean
Unless you deal 4+ dmg
lusty igloo
No it's 3 only
wdym
pallid ocean
Since they are pretty synergistic and I'm aiming bracket 3 not 4
lusty igloo
did you play ff xiv growing up
pallid ocean
Yea I started in heavensward
lusty igloo
I seeeee
I never played XIV so I don't have to play a bunch of suboptimal cards for nostalgia thank god
I'm just here for cute catgirl
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Doesn't trigger yshtola but [[batwing brume]]
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Instant
Prevent all combat damage that would be dealt this turn if 
was spent to cast this spell. Each player loses 1 life for each attacking creature they control if 
was spent to cast this spell. (Do both if was spent.)
lusty igloo
yeah I ended up not keeping that one. i only run inkshield
I could see it though. I prefer one-sided board wipes over fogs since fog only for one combat
pallid ocean
Nobody expects the esper fog
Im also not the biggest fan of undermine
But I dislike cards with too many colored pips
lusty igloo
i was looking at arena cards for teh person in here earlier and [[Absorb Energy]] looks so good
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Instant
Counter target spell. Cards in your hand that share a card type with that spell perpetually gain "This spell costs 
less to cast."
lusty igloo
there's no paper version right
pallid ocean
Depending on build, relic of legends is great since you don't attack with them
lusty igloo
oh i guess they can't tell which card was in your hand when you cast it
so it cant be in paper
pallid ocean
I also just like some 1 cmc counters like an offer you can't refuse
pallid ocean
Make people second guess your options more
lusty igloo
do i have room for offer
i have lots of free counterspells
im even thinking of taking off bolas citadel + top for force of will + 1
pallid ocean
What bracket again,m
pallid ocean
Is it 3?
lusty igloo
yea
pallid ocean
I thought I saw more than 3 GC
lusty igloo
bolas fierce and smothering
pallid ocean
Man blue has so many free counters, it feels like more should be on there
I was running rhystic, fierce and t pro for my list
Tho I could always swap out t pro for cyc rift, I would do force but don't own a copy
lusty igloo
i believe smothering is stronger than rhystic in b3 yshtola
we need more mana not more draws. i already have 20-40 cards sometimes when curiosity takes flight
pallid ocean
Tbf both are really annoying to play against and with
lusty igloo
and b3 has lots of landfall decks where they just pay the 1 lol
pallid ocean
Mostly the constant asking
pallid ocean
Eh I'm just playing it cause I got the sick WOE fairy tale art
I do also have smoth tithe now that I'm thinking about it
lusty igloo
i was thinking of adding my 3rd gamechanger as [[pendrell vale]]
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Legendary Land
All creatures have "At the beginning of your upkeep, destroy this creature unless you pay ."
pallid ocean
T pro is great but dk if it does enough
lusty igloo
but is that toxic?
lusty igloo
I do also have smoth tithe now that I'm thinking about it
4 game changers??? 
pallid ocean
As in my collection
lusty igloo
(i was running 6 until recently in my urza deck since they made consecrated sphinx and tpro gamechangers lol)
i didnt realize
pallid ocean
I got it for my hazezon ages ago but I shelved it
lusty igloo
tabernacle is more back breaking than vile consumption right? mana costs aside
pallid ocean
RIP hazezon, you went from 1 GC to 6 in one day
lusty igloo
LOL
pallid ocean
Oh easily more back breaking
It also shuts off some archetypes completely and being a land is much more searchable
lusty igloo
for a free card that's kind of ridiculous
pallid ocean
[[urza's mine]]
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Land — Urza's Mine
: Add 
. If you control an Urza's Power-Plant and an Urza's Tower, add instead.
In his hunger for power and knowledge, Urza dug deep into Dominaria's ancient past.
lusty igloo
i usually only have y'shtola alive so it's so good for me in this deck. but i wont include it
i feel like it's salt-inducing idk
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[[urza's cave]]
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Land — Urza's Cave
: Add .
, , Sacrifice this land: Search your library for a land card, put it onto the battlefield tapped, then shuffle.
No matter how deep Urza delved, he couldn't escape his regrets.
pallid ocean
I would probably run some X spell finishers like exsanguinate or debt to the deathless
lusty igloo
[[debt to the deathless]]
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Or maybe one of 2 of the cards that deal dmg when you gain life
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Sometimes it gets you that last tiny bit of dmg if she gets too expensive to cast
[[enduring tenacity]]
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lusty igloo
im a hater of those cards
pallid ocean
Kills a single target better
lusty igloo
clones are better to me
more resilient to commander not on board, can draw more cards
pallid ocean
Tho that's more on my pod tending to play role games so we don't aoe as indiscriminately
Vito does give creatures lifelink
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[[Basilisk collar]]
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Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature has deathtouch and lifelink. (Any amount of damage it deals to a creature is enough to destroy it. Damage dealt by this creature also causes you to gain that much life.)
Equip 
(: Attach to target creature you control. Equip only as a sorcery.)
lusty igloo
should I remove [[generous gift]]
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pallid ocean
Can't rmb if there are better forms of lifelink
It's the og classic
Not as good for yshtola [[whip of erebos]]
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Legendary Enchantment Artifact
Creatures you control have lifelink.
, : Return target creature card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step. If it would leave the battlefield, exile it instead of putting it anywhere else. Activate only as a sorcery.
pallid ocean
It is however very funny to imagine yshtola holding it
Shadowspear is the better version of collar but also like 40x the price
pallid ocean
Hmm also 4 cmc sorin that does trigger her
lusty igloo
idk what to do
pallid ocean
I'll have to look around the options later
Also I suggest you run pain lands
You can hurt yourself for 4 and draw
Better than the kaldheim lands in ysh
Promise of loyalty doesn't seem that great for a 5cmc board wipe
Prob better than Starfall technically since you don't enable etbs
Helm of the ghastlord isn't very friendly with yshtola unfortunately
Making everyone discard one every proc can get very archenemy fast
lusty igloo
@pallid ocean thoughts on [[phyresis]] ??
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lusty igloo
5 times = kill. 
pallid ocean
It's good if you have enough protection
Or have enough spare mana to kill right after
Cause you know they are gonna kill it 100% or die trying
pallid ocean
was retooling my manabase for yshtola
I realized you can easily do 1/3+ of your manabase to kill you
Just lands alone, add in other sources it's really funny
pallid ocean
@lusty igloo you're not running enough basics for land tax
lusty igloo
Fuck
Would you add more basics or drop land tax
I love land tax lol. Just getting guaranteed one land every turn is so nice. And it works with solitary confinement
pallid ocean
Drop imo
lusty igloo
I’m tempted to play Sejiri Shelter
pallid ocean
you can run archaomancer map
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lusty igloo
pallid ocean
[[archaeomancer's map]]
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pallid ocean
Been looking at weird payoffs, [[honor worn shaku]] if you play a ton of FFXIV characters
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Artifact
: Add .
Tap an untapped legendary permanent you control: Untap this artifact.
Before being presented to its lord, each shaku is blessed by every hero of every region within that lord's domain.
fervent burrow
Can't rememver if we mentioned [[sheltered by ghosts]] or not. I'm torn on it but I think it's worth running. Gives some protection with ward, but also makes Yshtola a bigger target with lifelink + a reward for removing her
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Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature you control
When this Aura enters, exile target nonland permanent an opponent controls until this Aura leaves the battlefield.
Enchanted creature gets +1/+0 and has lifelink and ward .
pallid ocean
It is a cheap lifelink source
But not worth the money since it's a standard staple iirc
fervent burrow
It's $5 rn yea, I have a copy though 🙂
wide quiver
Yeah, it's a great card, but I've been trying to jam in as many 3+ mv as I can
wide quiver
https://scryfall.com/card/cmm/954/honor-worn-shaku
It's kinda just colorless relic of legends
pallid ocean
It's kinda just colorless relic of legends
I think of it as a second copy
wide quiver
Kinda, but we're so pip heavy imo
pallid ocean
We are tbh
It's mostly a direction that I don't think many people are considering
Since most play it as a protect the commander deck
pallid ocean
Anyone gonna meme with [[triskaidekaphile]]
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Creature — Human Wizard
You have no maximum hand size.
At the beginning of your upkeep, if you have exactly thirteen cards in your hand, you win the game.
: Draw a card.
She's always willing to lend a hand. It just won't be her own.
1/3
wide quiver
Nah, if I wanted to meme I'd do [[lab maniac]], but I already have a lab man meme deck
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pallid ocean
Lab man is overused from thoracle
pallid ocean
Mostly was looking at cards supposed to be like jolrael for a token strategy
Dk why it got recommended but it did remind me it existed
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If I have opidian eyes and curiosity I would play lab man
wide quiver
You'll kill everyone before you draw out
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👀
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I may have asked already, but [[espers to magicite]] yay or nay? Probably nay
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wide quiver
Oh, I did, and I think I determined [[szat's will]] is better
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mild harness
Picked these up for the funny cat girl
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[[torment of hailfire]]
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fervent burrow
Oh ew
wide quiver
Sigil of sleep is going to be so oppressive.
fervent burrow
That's disgusting
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This and
wide quiver
Oh yeah? I got [[shark typhoon]]
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Enchantment
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying, where X is that spell's mana value.
Cycling 
(, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle this card, create an X/X blue Shark creature token with flying.
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[[helm of the ghastlord]]
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fervent burrow
I like Shark but I can't find it to stay in my deck haha I have that in my ChunLi deck where I feel it's more appropriate
Ghastlord is also gross but i approve of that one
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Today I made 4 yshtola on board
wide quiver
I got an [[as foretold]] too. Should be interesting.
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a time counter on this enchantment.
Once each turn, you may pay 
rather than pay the mana cost for a spell you cast with mana value X or less, where X is the number of time counters on this enchantment.
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Oh lol
fervent burrow
I thought about it but not sure how much I'll actually get out of it... I mean I suppose if I get 2 spells off it it's technically worth
wide quiver
I'm also putting in that janky extra turn card
So that would put another counter on it
fervent burrow
Savor the Moment?
wide quiver
Yeah
fervent burrow
Can they update the game to have like 120 cards
wide quiver
ikr
wide quiver
The "best" things are kinda obvious
wide quiver
Yeah. there are a lot of cool 3 + mv esper cards
You reminded me that I need to swap toxic deluge in
fervent burrow
Once I actually start playing I'll see what swaps around
wide quiver
^^
fervent burrow
Curious to see what ends up missing
Thankfully 1 sided boardwipes are pretty easy to sort out
fervent burrow
[[Starfall Invocation]]
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fervent burrow
Which is in mine
wide quiver
There it is
fervent burrow
[[Necromantic Selection]] is a (probably worse) alternative to starfall
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He’s there so I can add all 5 color
wide quiver
Yeah that seems bad
fervent burrow
In a world where you need many wrath it could be somrwhere
wide quiver
I'd probably still prefer [[decree of pain]]
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Sorcery
Destroy all creatures. They can't be regenerated. Draw a card for each creature destroyed this way.
Cycling (, Discard this card: Draw a card.)
When you cycle this card, all creatures get -2/-2 until end of turn.
wide quiver
despite not returning something
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[[single combat]]
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[[promise of loyalty]]
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fervent burrow
I also called it that!
I prefer promise over single but I can see both
Depends on the decks you see also
wide quiver
Yeah
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[[tragic arrogance]]
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wide quiver
Seems good
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Yeah lol
wide quiver
If our commander didn't have vigilance, [[split up]] could be cool
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Some one killed 4 of my yshtola with this
wide quiver
I have it in my captain america deck and it works far better than you might expect
wide quiver
It's moreso that you want to be able to change to tapped if you need to
And vigilance prevents that
sacred galleon
Could run some convoke for it, but seems pretty narrow for a deck that pretty much always has like one creature on board at all times
wide quiver
Oh right, I got [[blasphemous edict]] too
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Sorcery
You may pay rather than pay this spell's mana cost if there are thirteen or more creatures on the battlefield.
Each player sacrifices thirteen creatures of their choice.
"A demonic pact is all fun and games until the bill comes due." —Liliana Vess
sacred galleon
Also returning to this list after some goldfishes and cuts and it definitely seems to gel better as a draw/go control deck, but I adore esper enchantress too much to not take advantage of at least some of that package. Feel free to offer any suggestions for changes or any cards you don’t see in my side/maybeboard that I haven’t considered!
wide quiver
Caduceus is interesting
sacred galleon
Edict is probably better than I give it credit for with how often shtola gets hated off the board lmao
sacred galleon
Caduceus is interesting
Haha yeah it’s probably suboptimal, but I felt like having a staff like equipment was just too fitting flavor-wise to pass up
Plus indestructible vigi lifelink is a hell of a combo of keywords
fervent burrow
I also took a loot st Caduceus but jjst didn't see it working out
sacred galleon
Plus any of the life gain -> targeted life loss effects get cranked way up with it from any lifelink source pinned on her unless I’m understanding the rules wrong
My main concern is how often I feel vulnerable having almost no blockers with a deck where I’m draining myself a lot to trigger end step draw on my turns so I can leave mana up to interact and off turn end step draw
fervent burrow
Alternative Yshtola deck where I put 20 pieces on the board to try and make a single spellcast somehow do 40 damage to everyone and heal me for 40
[[Murmuring mystic]] is my blockers
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sacred galleon
I would run mystic/talrand package but I’m too enchantment heavy for it I fear
fervent burrow
I've still gotta see how mine avtually plays but since I'm usually with friends creatures are a concern haha
sacred galleon
Yeaaahh I have a couple token generators but it’s rough. I was honestly wondering about stuff like [[aligned heart]] to make some blockers since I’m running the leveilleur twins and they make double spelling easier
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[[monk class]] was another consideration but it being 2 cmc made me shy away from it a bit
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Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
The second spell you cast each turn costs less to cast.
: Level 2
When this Class becomes level 2, return up to one target nonland permanent to its owner's hand.
: Level 3
At the beginning of your upkeep, exile the top card of your library. For as long as it remains exiled, it has "You may cast this card from exile as long as you've cast another spell this turn."
fervent burrow
Scaling Monastery Mentor with a lower floor is interesting
sacred galleon
A lot to those cards I run in [[zethi]] and they’ve served me really well every time I’ve used em
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[[zethi, arcane blademaster]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Multikicker 
When Zethi, Arcane Blademaster enters, exile up to X target instant cards from your graveyard, where X is the number of times Zethi was kicked. Put a kick counter on each of them.
Whenever Zethi attacks, copy each exiled card you own with a kick counter on it. You may cast the copies.
3/3
sacred galleon
But that deck is definitely way more spellslinger than shtola
fervent burrow
I also have that deck and I'm trying to avoid too much overlap lol
wide quiver
[[V.A.T.S]] is kinda interesting
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fervent burrow
[[ojer pakpatik]]
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[[ojer pakpatiq]]
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Legendary Creature — God
Flying
Whenever you cast an instant spell from your hand, it gains rebound. (Exile it as it resolves. At the beginning of your next upkeep, you may cast it from exile without paying its mana cost.)
When Ojer Pakpatiq dies, return it to the battlefield tapped and transformed under its owner's control with three time counters on it.
4/3
Temple of Cyclical Time
Land
(Transforms from Ojer Pakpatiq, Deepest Epoch.)
: Add . Remove a time counter from this land.
, : Transform this land. Activate only if it has no time counters on it and only as a sorcery.
Chimil gave the Oltec time. Ojer Pakpatiq gave them the tools to learn its lessons.
wide quiver
Yeah, I mentioned him early on, and I'm running him.
I feel like I need to increase the # of instants I have
Especially since I'm putting [[mindsplice apparatus]] in too
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Artifact
Flash
At the beginning of your upkeep, put an oil counter on this artifact.
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast for each oil counter on this artifact.
wide quiver
I should probably ditch certain enchantments
lusty igloo
I like Shark but I can't find it to stay in my deck haha I have that in my ChunL...
What is ChunLi
fervent burrow
[[Chun li]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Multikicker
When Zethi, Arcane Blademaster enters, exile up to X target instant cards from your graveyard, where X is the number of times Zethi was kicked. Put a kick counter on each of them.
Whenever Zethi attacks, copy each exiled card you own with a kick counter on it. You may cast the copies.
3/3
fervent burrow
@lusty igloo
fervent burrow
lusty igloo
[[Chun li]]
they really add anyone lol
wide quiver
They added a few Street fighter characters, yeah
fervent burrow
People still aren't over [[battle bus]] I'll take street fighter haha
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wide quiver
I think most of them are good, yeah
fervent burrow
Yeah a lot of the SF are good
Chun Li might be the best actually just for colors? But Blanka and Zangief do work too
"Competitively" at least. Chun Li just runs the best 30+ instants in white/blue, some protection pieces, graveyard subtheme, lots of bounce...
wide quiver
Yeah, Blanka looked insane when I saw it being played
Oh I see, they all have universes within versions too
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What 3 out of these game changer should I play ?
fervent burrow
Tithe for sure
wide quiver
bolas seems good
And notion thief is always good
Narset really only exists for wheeling, and I don't like that
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https://moxfield.com/decks/zUfRD-UJp0q4HZoLGGcaiA I think this is what im going with, is it a Braket 3 ?
also any feedback is appriciated
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https://moxfield.com/decks/zUfRD-UJp0q4HZoLGGcaiA I think this is what im going...
personally i'd swap out crux of fate with [[time wipe]] ,since there isnt any dragon synergy to speak of, really.
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[[flare of malice]] feels like it's gonna run into the issue of not having a good creature to sacrifice given most of the time you're gonna have just yshtola on the board and not much else and saccing yshtola puts you further behind than most of your opponents
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[[flare of malice]] feels like it's gonna run into the issue of not having a goo...
yes I learned about it too
flare is usually I need to be really ahead
or have mana to spare
sacred galleon
i would maybe consider swapping out [[tandem lookout]] and one other card for the leveilleur twins, ive found that discounting spells is easily the thing that rockets this deck forward way faster than anything else
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lusty igloo
free spells
sacred galleon
that too, yeah
lusty igloo
i like baral. is there a better dsicounter?
sacred galleon
oh there's a good few yeah
[[mindsplice apparatus]] is nice too flash in to start setting up, but can be a bit of an expensive investment since it needs to accrue value over time
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Artifact
Flash
At the beginning of your upkeep, put an oil counter on this artifact.
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast for each oil counter on this artifact.
lusty igloo
i'm pretty anti-second spell per turn. i think it's bait. you don't want to be force to blow a second interaction spell in a turn rather than holding it for future opponent turns
[[as foretold]] I was told to remove by a lot of people. it's rly gud if you get it out turn 3... but later on it's so trash lol
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Enchantment
At the beginning of your upkeep, put a time counter on this enchantment.
Once each turn, you may pay rather than pay the mana cost for a spell you cast with mana value X or less, where X is the number of time counters on this enchantment.
sacred galleon
i think it can definitely be bad to double spell interaction just to double spell, but effects that let you draw/go/control like [[vedalken orrery]] make it a much easier prospect since you can cheat in a value piece with your interaction
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lusty igloo
i feel ike mindsplice has same problems of as foretold while not being as strong
the colorless only reduction is kinda limiting
and only instants/sorceries
sacred galleon
hm, i guess it kinda depends on your selection of interaction. im kinda iffy on mindsplice and as foretold as well, personally
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Lol I can't just cut everything lol
sacred galleon
they definitely feel like really bad topdecks later
sacred galleon
Lol I can't just cut everything lol
oh no for sure, im just considering out loud the various directions you could go, not really a hard suggestion to cut/include
i just saw you were running leyline and trickster and was thinking about a harder draw/go/control lean
lusty igloo
how are y'all feeling about opposing FF commanders? are there any other scary ones besides Vivi?
sacred galleon
the selesnya yuna ran me over yesterday lmao that shit is scary
lusty igloo
rly?? intersting
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i just saw you were running leyline and trickster and was thinking about a harde...
my idea is protecting the y'stola ( or 3 copy of her) then control the board yeah
then if thing got bad I board wipe
lusty igloo
need a few more counterspells tbh
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that the ideas
sacred galleon
my idea is protecting the y'stola ( or 3 copy of her) then control the board yea...
yeah copies tend to do very well since every copy triggers the others
lusty igloo
i still think you should take out vita and endurance for more copies. ik im beating on dead horse
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Idk im just a big fan of vito for no reason haha
sacred galleon
i ended up cutting vito myself, yeah
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honestly bc I just want to add some italian when I play him
lusty igloo
vito + y'shtola -> 1 non-creature spell = you gain 2 life, enemy takes 4/2/2 damage. you draw 1 card
enemy takes 4 damage somehow on enemy turn = draw 1 card
y'shtola + y'shtola clone -> 1 non-creature spell = you gain 4 life. enemy takes 4/4/4 damage. you draw 2 cards.
enemy takes 4 damage somehow on enemy turn = draw 2 card
sacred galleon
i run enduring, but that's because i lean further into self-pain/lifegain strategies than this list
lusty igloo
1 yshtola dead -> vito/enduring tenacity does literally nothing now
1 yshtola dead -> other yshtola still does her thing
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i mean I'm not planing for her to die
sacred galleon
she will, unfortunately lol
lusty igloo
ik. it's up to you sometimes you just play cards you like for fun
sacred galleon
you draw a lot of hate
lusty igloo
my argument is that there's no actual advantage of those two cards over a 4 mana clone like sakishimi the impostor or spark double
not even budget-wise the price is the same
sacred galleon
eh debatable, yshtola isnt the only source of lifegain you can run
lusty igloo
oh true
sacred galleon
i mean if she is then yeah vito and enduring are dead once shes out
lusty igloo
fish will have to lean into a lot more lifegain to get value
there's that one um artifact i had early on. and esper discord told me was trash
let me find it
sacred galleon
(theres an esper discord??)
lusty igloo
[[Caduceus, Staff of Hermes]] ?? maybe this one??
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Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature has lifelink.
As long as you have 30 or more life, equipped creature gets +5/+5 and has indestructible and "Prevent all damage that would be dealt to this creature."
Equip
It can be a key, a weapon, and a way to attain great power.
lusty igloo
yes
sacred galleon
oh haha yeah it probably isnt very good, but ive had fun with it when it works
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eh im gonna give the cat warlock a cool magic staff, i stand by my decision lmao ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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but yeah @maiden widget i would look into things that have incidental lifegain or other ways to give yshtola lifelink if you wanna lean into stuff like vito more reliably
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[[roaming throne]]
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Artifact Creature — Golem
Ward
As this creature enters, choose a creature type.
This creature is the chosen type in addition to its other types.
If a triggered ability of another creature you control of the chosen type triggers, it triggers an additional time.
4/4
maiden widget
why this card soudn good
sacred galleon
yeah 4 for a creature is a tough pill for this deck
maiden widget
nvm I already have delney]
lusty igloo
oh i mean $$ price
sacred galleon
delney does go kinda stupid lmao (and tbf delney is also $$$)
maiden widget
yeah no price
maiden widget
delney does go kinda stupid lmao (and tbf delney is also $$$)
I sacrifice a saphroth for it today
lusty igloo
are you in a major city?
sacred galleon
woof, i woulda kept the sephi tbh man
lusty igloo
how do people in your lgs have everything lol
maiden widget
how do people in your lgs have everything lol
bc i have everything they want
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but i like buildaround cards more than i like generic synergy stuff, so thats just like my opinion or whatever lol
maiden widget
I have 2 copy of vivi, 1 sephi, 1 summon bahamet, and some throught he ages sheet stuff
lusty igloo
woof, i woulda kept the sephi tbh man
yeah rn sepiroth is more expensive than delney
you should've asked for an extra 10 or something lol. oh well
maiden widget
woof, i woulda kept the sephi tbh man
it sephiroth and something else lol
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oof yeah no i got regular foil alt art shtola and im more than happy with it, no way im dropping like 500 bucks on her
lusty igloo
oof yeah no i got regular foil alt art shtola and im more than happy with it, no...
from a pull or single?
or trade ig
(or theft)
maiden widget
honestly I need a regular fullart of her
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collector box haha, my girlfriend has been pining for this set since it got announced so we got the one box and called it quits on any more collectors packs
lusty igloo
im waiting for 21st. my random date of when i think im supposed to buy
lusty igloo
collector box haha, my girlfriend has been pining for this set since it got anno...
wat was ur best pulls?
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this is mine best pull 1 collector pack
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sorry had to find the pic she posted lol
there was a good bit more, that was just the premium stuff she could fit into one pic lol
mild harness
[[torment of hailfire]]
Overkill you think?
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Overkill you think?
i mean it's a decent way to end the game if you're running some of the other discard stuff like [[helm of the ghastlord]] to force the lifeloss
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lusty igloo
i like slow draining them to death
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honestly the curiosity part of it was enough to make me wanna run it lol the discard effect is a cherry on top
im also surprised at how often i see people remove [[eye of nidhogg]] from the precon list
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personally i think goad is pretty key to the strat, and the fact that it turns it into a 4 power flyer means most of the time you get the draw on that players turn without even having to work for it
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https://scryfall.com/card/fic/44/eye-of-nidhogg
this win a game with it
but I cut it thou
mild harness
Not a fan of goading and usually isn’t effective where I play
lusty igloo
it looks decent. id play it maybe if it was 150 card format
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Not a fan of goading and usually isn’t effective where I play
like, the mechanic?
maiden widget
forcing to swing is sometime not needed lol
sacred galleon
yeah i guess it kinda depends on how much green stompy is at your tables
mild harness
like, the mechanic?
Yeah, usually doesn’t work out for me
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i run with a lot of newer players and they love their stompy decks, so goad often turns key threats away from me as the solo control player in the group
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[[dancer's chakrams]] this is the one I dont want to cut the most
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Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +2/+2, has lifelink and "Other commanders you control get +2/+2 and have lifelink," and is a Performer in addition to its other types.
Krishna — Equip
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yeaaahh i love dance partner, but i cut the job selects
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that's my main job in the game (ff14)
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i would love to see about fitting in the black mage cards or [[reaper's scythe]] in there, but they just felt too slow
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Artifact — Equipment
Job select
At the beginning of your end step, put a soul counter on this Equipment for each player who lost life this turn.
Equipped creature gets +1/+1 for each soul counter on this Equipment and is an Assassin in addition to its other types.
Death Sickle — Equip
maiden widget
yeaaahh i love dance partner, but i cut the job selects
lol I didnt feel like carry my hero token ngl
mild harness
I cut dancers chakrams for a planeswalker that does similar
mild harness
i would love to see about fitting in the black mage cards or [[reaper's scythe]]...
I thought about adding the black mage rod tbh
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I cut dancers chakrams for a planeswalker that does similar
is it the white creature one?
i forget his name
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I thought about adding the black mage rod tbh
but you can run tranpose
mild harness
Tranpose?
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[[transpose]]
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mild harness
is it the white creature one?
It’s a sorin planeswalker
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It’s a sorin planeswalker
ah nvm i was thinking of [[gideon blackblade]]
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also i love the concept of the black mage cards/rod, and i would love to include them, but i found them to just not be that consequential compared to just finding ways to boost shtola herself
same reason i cut [[papalymo]]
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Legendary Creature — Dwarf Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Papalymo Totolymo deals 1 damage to each opponent and you gain 1 life.
, , Sacrifice Papalymo Totolymo: Each opponent who lost life this turn sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures they control.
1/2
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(and that i hate his character, personally lmao)
mild harness
Nah it’s a planeswalker that gives your creatures lifelink on your turn
+2 ping something -x recur a creature with MV x or less
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ah, i tend to run further draw go control if i can help it, so i need lifelink off-turn effects personally
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[[emet-selch of the third seat]] my fav that i can't bring myself to cut lol
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Legendary Creature — Elder Wizard
Spells you cast from your graveyard cost less to cast.
Whenever one or more opponents lose life, you may cast target instant or sorcery card from your graveyard. If that spell would be put into your graveyard, exile it instead. Do this only once each turn.
3/4
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how do folks feel about [[k'rrik, son]] for a way to ramp? maybe it's just my deck but i find myself pretty heavy in black, and phyrexian mana is just so useful
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Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Horror Minion
(
can be paid with either or 2 life.)
Lifelink
For each in a cost, you may pay 2 life rather than pay that mana.
Whenever you cast a black spell, put a +1/+1 counter on K'rrik.
2/2
mild harness
I just want bonus life gain from yshtola
sacred galleon
ah interesting
yeah im like even blue/black and very little white, mostly in protection/lifegain stuff
sacred galleon
oh thats pretty even actually
i have a much harder skew away from white personally
mild harness
So uh
mild harness
I’m looking at my friends light paws deck because she runs some goofy auras I forgot existed
sacred galleon
white auras do go kinda crazy yeah
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[[rune of sustenance]] was definitely a consideration, but didnt make the cut since it was just barely too cheap
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but honestly i might bring back all the WUB runes, theyre such neat little enchantment cantrips
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im cutting [[flare of malice]] for another boardwipe ngl
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Unquestioned Authority (protection from creatures)
On Serra’s Wings (1/1 flying life link and another keyword )
Spirit Loop (life link but not)
Spirit Link (life link but not)
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yeah you could very much just go full esper enchantress with shtola
lusty igloo
we dont like [[[[Caduceus, Staff of Hermes]] right
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Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Equipped creature has lifelink.
As long as you have 30 or more life, equipped creature gets +5/+5 and has indestructible and "Prevent all damage that would be dealt to this creature."
Equip
It can be a key, a weapon, and a way to attain great power.
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i went half-measure with it so i could fit in some amount of control package, but she absolutely can play enchantress
lusty igloo
im still tempted to play that one
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[[spirit loop]]
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https://scryfall.com/card/m12/24/lifelink
what does this card do ?
lusty igloo
would you pay caduceus @mild harness
mild harness
what does this card do ?
You win the game
sacred galleon
we dont like [[[[Caduceus, Staff of Hermes]] right
i mean ive found if you can have shtola protected by an aura or something else, i can actually hit the indestructible pretty often
mild harness
would you pay caduceus <@201112260725309440>
Pay? Maybe, it’s okay
Play it, not in yshtola imo
lusty igloo
*play sorr
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and then she turns into beeg vigi cat that smacks people over the head
lusty igloo
oki
im just gonna skip lifelink
im just thinking about all the times im dying by just a few life
mild harness
Cat girl go bonk
lusty igloo
but idk if i wanna waste a card just to get more life
one one-sided board wipe saves much more life than a lifelink counter on y'shtola
or fogs
sacred galleon
depends if you wanna lean into lifegain payoffs, since white has quite a few good ones
[[angelic accord]] helps with blockers since it's every turn
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lusty igloo
not my style i think
sacred galleon
thats fair haha i think it definitely needs its own buildaround, but i definitely think shtola could be the head of an esper enchantress lifegain deck
very different build/style than draw/go/control though
mild harness
[[felidar sovereign]], another if you have 50 or more life
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I feel like [[divine intervention]] would be extremely funny to see
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sacred galleon
lmao gotta love "if i cant win neither can you" as the endgame plan
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isn't it just not fun for everyone lol
mild harness
Depends on the pod
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people already complain when i bring yet another black leaning control deck to the table lmao might as well pull a "well at least you didnt lose" on em ¯_(ツ)_/¯
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i mean, honestly in response to turn 1 sol ring? absolutely fair play in my mind
maiden widget
can they pay 3BB thou ?
mild harness
No
maiden widget
or they just try to soop ?
mild harness
That’s the point
maiden widget
scoop*
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[[pact of negation]]
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Instant
Counter target spell.
At the beginning of your next upkeep, pay . If you don't, you lose the game.
Those who expect betrayal at every turn are seldom disappointed.
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I’d run it if I can generate mana
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I’d run it if I can generate mana
This is why I love [[unwind]] [[rewind]]
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I ended up cutting archaeomancer’s map from the deck tbh. I run so few basic plains and the second half of the card didn’t seem too beneficial for me
I kinda wanna add [[black mage’s rod]]
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Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +1/+0, has "Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, this creature deals 1 damage to each opponent," and is a Wizard in addition to its other types.
Equip
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0 basics for me lmao so couldnt run it if i wanted to
mild harness
I hope you never run into blood moon
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If someone drip blood moon I’ll stand up and leave
sacred galleon
It’s wholesome I swear
mild harness
Nah you know what I’d say is worse than blood moon
[[hall of gemstones]] against any multi colored deck
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[[humility]] is the ultimate "hey how about we just stop playing"
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Just play 1/1 beat down
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standard is right through that door --> [exit]
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oof, im surprised. graha felt really good for making blockers, as well as just another way to set up one-spell draws since you can just drain yourself for 4 to trigger it (or 3 with a pain mana source)
maiden widget
You actually still have graha ?
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Lol
mild harness
I think we should add [[kismet]]
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(Yes I’m a monster)
sacred galleon
this is how you get uninvited to the next game lmao
maiden widget
Isn’t you already have authority ?
lusty igloo
play [[tabernacle at pendrell vale]] 
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Legendary Land
All creatures have "At the beginning of your upkeep, destroy this creature unless you pay ."
maiden widget
My friend already threatened me bc I put in Delney and Smothing tithe
I don’t want more floodgate lol
mild harness
There’s a tabernacle like card
sacred galleon
smother i get, but delney???
lusty igloo
it not as gud
mild harness
Enchantment that says sacrifice it unless you pay a a life
maiden widget
smother i get, but delney???
They called me pay to win lmao
lusty igloo
are they on precons or something
sacred galleon
show up next time with a printer ink cartridge as a gift
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It’s Bracket 3
lusty igloo
LOL
if u tend to play wtih same friends over n over have to make some weaker decks to let them win 
maiden widget
Listen they are not mad when I play this so [[Fandaniel, Telophoroi Ascian]]
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if u tend to play wtih same friends over n over have to make some weaker decks t...
They told me to make its Bracket 3 lmao
lusty igloo
it is bracket 3 tho 
they might not like to admit it but they probably have low 3s either from ultrabudget or just from poor building
so they want u to make a low 3
lusty igloo
[[car girl]]
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sacred galleon
i would argue more decks are bracket 2 than most people realize
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Cat*
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they just have a lot of pride about not admitting it
lusty igloo
yeah adding 10-20 cards into a precon is still b3 unless you put a ton of gamechnagers
b2
or combos/tutors for combos ofc
lusty igloo
the y'shtola precon is famous for being really bad built
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^^^
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the y'shtola precon is famous for being really bad built
They try so hard on “cast non creature spell”
lusty igloo
of the 4 FF precons they did a trash job at making it a bracket 2 deck. it low 2 at best. people only play it if they loved FFXIV
lusty igloo
They try so hard on “cast non creature spell”
no they didnt i think they had like 30 creatures and 8 instants
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no they didnt i think they had like 30 creatures and 8 instants
A lot of the job select thou
I see the synergy
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i mean it was less a yshtola deck and more a bundle of commanders to build other decks with
mild harness
I updated my yshtola list, it’s in the pins
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4 of the commanders can be in their own deck
mild harness
It’s mostly the same, but a few cards have been swapped
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the fact that so many of the xiv legends had to be in esper bc they wanted them all to be in the precon makes me sad bc it meant some of the legends had to be pushed into colors that dont make sense
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like, how are we gonna make [[alisaie]] not be in red, cmon wotc
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Legendary Creature — Elf Wizard
Partner with Alphinaud Leveilleur (When this creature enters, target player may put Alphinaud Leveilleur into their hand from their library, then shuffle.)
First strike
Dualcast — The second spell you cast each turn costs less to cast.
3/2
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Graha good, estinien is good, even fandaniel is good, the twin is good for commanders too ig
lusty igloo
[[Auron, Venerated]]
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lusty igloo
he's so mid
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Graha good, estinien is good, even fandaniel is good, the twin is good for comma...
estinien was one of my first cuts tbh lol, dragons have nothing to do with the deck
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estinien was one of my first cuts tbh lol, dragons have nothing to do with the d...
Lord reason
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hes a good beater, sure, but id rather just build an estinien deck than try to fit in a random combat focused creature into the deck
maiden widget
estinien was one of my first cuts tbh lol, dragons have nothing to do with the d...
Slap [[eye of nighog]] on yshtola
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[[eye of nidhogg]]
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sacred galleon
i am running eye tbf, but i save it for goading other peoples threats
makes it easy to get a draw trigger on their turns since its 4 power
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Urianger is interesting card for a commander
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100%, but again, he feels like you wanna build him his own deck
maiden widget
That’s the problems with this precon
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eeyup
maiden widget
A lot of legend want to be in their own deck
sacred galleon
it's not really a yshtola deck, it's a bundle of commanders
which is fine, i plan on building most of the scions their own deck
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which is fine, i plan on building most of the scions their own deck
Me too
But it pricey
Even Arbert is a funny card as commander
mild harness
Remind me, who were all the scions?
sacred galleon
yep, but he kermitted die
and her
i always forget if estinien is just his own agent or if he's a formal scion
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and of course the most important scion, wardrobe i mean tataru
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Wait they did
sacred galleon
yep, but just not a named one
[[white auracite]] is really funny because i call it minfilia jail
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Artifact
When this artifact enters, exile target nonland permanent an opponent controls until this artifact leaves the battlefield.
: Add .
"She gave her life that we might defeat the Ascians. Her sacrifice must not be in vain."
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Here the better one
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i mean thats technically ryne but yeah same difference i guess
mild harness
Tataru is going in bumbleflower tbh
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Ok good ff14 character for real
pallid ocean
I've got the idea to build a token yshtola later on after speaking with mxkale ytd
Can run similar to mono U urza artifact she'll supported with white token support and spell slinger generators
wide quiver
Yeah, tokens would work well
pallid ocean
Honestly after some discussion, you can easily go any routes ranging from enchantress/artifacts/tokens/legendary matters/ spell slinger/ protect the baby
And yes I'm just gonna call the rely on commander for everything protect the baby from now on
There's probably a correct term that I'm forgetting but it's funnier
You can easily mix and match up to 2 and 3 of the subthemes since they all kinda melt into each other quite well
wide quiver
I also like protect the baby lol
pallid ocean
It did not help that kick the baby from south park lives rent free in my head
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I usually called it protect the tower
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[[unstoppable plan]] is probably worth it
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Since we use a ton of mana rocks
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https://scryfall.com/card/dft/72/unstoppable-plan
I was thinking about it last night in my dream
pallid ocean
[[unstoppable plan]] is probably worth it
[[unwinding clock]]
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That's more expensive though!
$ and mana, and I guess it doesn't get creatures for stuff like relic of legends
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[[flare of fortitude]]
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Delney
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You're not going to always have delney
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And you won't have many other nontoken white creatures with like 10-15 creatures
It's a good card though, agreed.
And saccing yshtola is better than dying
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Lol i think flare is just bad for this deck
I’m cutting flare of malice once I find something better
wide quiver
Yeah flares are pretty rough since we don't really run creatures
maiden widget
Me sacrifice Vito for flare of malice
pallid ocean
Flare of fortitude is not too bad for my build
Since I'm running the legendary creatures
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Only white creature I run is Kambal Delney and yshtola
pallid ocean
[[good king moogle mog]] seems too win more with clones but it's possible upon thinking
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pallid ocean
[[good king mog]]
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pallid ocean
It's very situational but it is funny
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If I were to go tokens, I'd want [[caretaker's talent]]
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Enchantment — Class
(Gain the next level as a sorcery to add its ability.)
Whenever one or more tokens you control enter, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.
: Level 2
When this Class becomes level 2, create a token that's a copy of target token you control.
: Level 3
Creature tokens you control get +2/+2.
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[[phyrexian scriptures]] is interesting too
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[[scroll of isildur]] too
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[[three blind mice]] for tokens
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[[vault 75]]
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maiden widget
I found a funny removal for the deck [[overkill]]
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wide quiver
Yeah, overkill seems like the only instant from this set really
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Isn’t it like 162 legendary ?
fervent burrow
Interesting approach [[gogo mimicry]] could be used to maximize triggers but save your spells. Could cast a 3 mana spell, oay 8 to copy it 4 times and drain everyone for 10. Or on endstep draw 5 instead Maybe not ideal, but an interesting piece
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Legendary Creature — Wizard
, : Copy target activated or triggered ability you control X times. You may choose new targets for the copies. This ability can't be copied and X can't be 0. (Mana abilities can't be targeted.)
"I see... so, you seek to save the world. Then I guess that means I shall save the world as well. Lead on! I will copy your every move."
2/4
high vine
Fierce Guardianship and Deadly Rollick are Auto includes for me in the Deck, but what are your thoughts on [[Flawless Maneuver]] ?
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fervent burrow
Protects her against a destroy effect. Not exile though. Could be worth it
high vine
Also "0 Mana" 3 Mana Spell without a downside
fervent burrow
Other than being a slot, yea. If you're running any "give indestrucible" instants this is probably the best one there is
high vine
Also I wonder about [[Swan Song]]
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high vine
Its generically good, but doesn't really Trigger yshtola
fervent burrow
It's on my "include if it feels like I would be saved by this later" lidt
wide quiver
Interesting approach [[gogo mimicry]] could be used to maximize triggers but sav...
You don't cast the copies though
[[yshtola night]]
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fervent burrow
The plan would be to copy the trigger not the spell
Turn my one "whenever" or "at the beginning" into X
fervent burrow
Like I said, weird use case where you're maybe low on draw but still want to Max out.
wide quiver
Works as a mana sink in draw-go too
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[[repuse]]
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[[repulse]]
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[[Tyrant’s scorn]]
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Are they good enough for the deck lol
wide quiver
Reulse is an expensive unsummon as a cantrip
But it does trigger yshtola
Tyrant's scorn doesn't trigger yshtola
I would rather run [[snap]] than either probably still
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Instant
This spell costs less to cast if it targets a permanent you control.
Return up to two target nonland permanents to their owners' hands.
"All that fancy footwork, and you can't even dodge one silly little rope? Cryin' shame, that is."
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Interesting one ngl
wide quiver
Yeah, you'd want permanents to work with it though
It could be protection or you could trigger etbs again
I'm tired of seeing it from Standard though
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What is that one spell that have flash and make creature indestructible
wide quiver
There are a lot
fervent burrow
Yeah many do that
Do you want the one with flash or an instant
[[Mithril coat]] is likely the flash
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Legendary Artifact — Equipment
Flash
Indestructible
When Mithril Coat enters, attach it to target legendary creature you control.
Equipped creature has indestructible.
Equip
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This is what I was thinking off
fervent burrow
@haughty spear FF did not give a lot of FF upgrades unfortunately. Almost all upgrades are from other sets
To see decklists, click on the name up top here, then switch to "pins" and all of our lists are there
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The best upgrade from this set is [[overkill]] lol
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haughty spear
<@340027494423855105> FF did not give a lot of FF upgrades unfortunately. Almost...
I can live with that, just seem i only seeing single cards being posted not a deck list
fervent burrow
The pin instructions should solve that
haughty spear
The one u sent?
haughty spear
I've pinned every list, should be about 10 or so
Ty,im very bad at navigating discord
fervent burrow
No problem
For example, there's no flash in this set. No new artifacts/enchantments that go wild with the theme. The precon has too many creatures... aa far as upgrades go
haughty spear
Wait the pin one i found is not comander
fervent burrow
Oh indeed the first result is not for commander haha
If you scroll I think the rest are
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[[counterbalance]] maybe
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Probably not, since we neither run topdeck manipulation nor does it trigger yshtola
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[[perplexing test]] is good for tokens builds
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I think I'm going to ditch Leyline mayube
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[[raven of fell omen]]
surreal shoalBOT
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This card is interesting for this deck I think ?
wide quiver
Seems pretty weak
fervent burrow
Triggering only once doesn't help a lot and relies on crimes. If you did a 3 mana crime per turn you'd still never get the draw proc
If it was 2 life, then as an enabler we could talk I think
wide quiver
[[papalymo totolymo]]
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Legendary Creature — Dwarf Wizard
Whenever you cast a noncreature spell, Papalymo Totolymo deals 1 damage to each opponent and you gain 1 life.
, , Sacrifice Papalymo Totolymo: Each opponent who lost life this turn sacrifices a creature with the greatest power among creatures they control.
1/2
wide quiver
I like this guy better for a multitude of reasons
mild harness
I've got the idea to build a token yshtola later on after speaking with mxkale y...
My yshtola is sorta like that, running stuff like Kykar, Hermes. And one of token makers
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https://scryfall.com/card/fic/90/papalymo-totolymo
I cut him bc ff14
wide quiver
Yshtola is from ff14
fervent burrow
Yshtola is from ff14
lusty igloo
Fierce Guardianship and Deadly Rollick are Auto includes for me in the Deck, but...
I run it
sacred galleon
reporting back in with results from the field! ended up cutting some of the enduring tenacity/lifedrain stuff for the clones and wow did that go pretty crazy. ended up draining out the table and forcing a concession after we got to the 1v1. the goad also helped save me from the voltron lyse hext player, so that came in super clutch! (kinda helped that i made a deal with him after one of the other players exiled his alisaie off the top of his deck and he was very upset about it). my girlfriend on her kirri deck was way less of a factor in the game than she normally was due to getting mana flooded, so it was mostly just me holding off the yuna player and waiting for him to die to the voltron lyse player, so maybe not the best data point, but the lifegain aura made me go from self damaging myself down to 29 hp all the way up to 60+ hp in the matter of a few turns
definitely a one-and-done kinda deck for the night, though, really felt the archenemy heat turn up once i put the lifegain/draw auras on shtola and it was evident how much of a problem i was, especially once i started healing for 8 and drawing 3 every time i interacted, leading to further frustrations of being controlled while getting drained out even with multiple people gunning for my life total
wide quiver
Which goad? Eye of yada yada?
fervent burrow
Niddhogg
wide quiver
That's the one
pallid ocean
There's that LotR black saga that cares about legendary creatures
One ring to rule them all
Good if all your token makers are legends
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Should I invest on the one ring ?
For yshtola deck
But I feel like this deck does have enough draw
fervent burrow
I don't know if I can suggest anyone invest in one ring
wide quiver
The One Ring is a staple in any deck, but also same
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[[baral, chief]]
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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Instant and sorcery spells you cast cost less to cast.
Whenever a spell or ability you control counters a spell, you may draw a card. If you do, discard a card.
"The echo of silence is music to my ears."
1/3
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Does it work with yshtola
Or it will make cmc cost less so 3 cost won’t trigger her ?
fervent burrow
Cost reduces doesn't affect mana value so it works
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Ordering baral
sacred galleon
Which goad? Eye of yada yada?
I actually ended up drawing into ghoulish impetus instead, and got to use it multiple times since the Yuna player pulled out an etali so I removed lyse, goaded etali, then removed etali once lyse got replayed to goad lyse again
Scratch that, he wasn’t playing Yuna that was a different game now that I think about it lol, he was playing clive
pallid ocean
So weird take, yshtola draws so much I don't think TOR is good here
TOR imo is draw first, protection second
Both parts which yshtola decks tend to focus on
sacred galleon
Yeah curiosity effects are way better for draw, but I could see the drain offsetting the burden counters for at least a bit
But ultimately it feels kinda unnecessary, I would much rather either enchant/equip her with permanent protection or counter interaction pointed at her
I had a really spicy [[misdirection]] early in the game when the lyse player tried to come at me with removal, exiling alphinaud for the cost since I felt like I didn’t need him anymore given I had a curiosity effect on shtola
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sacred galleon
Ultimately I think the more I play with her, the more I get to the lesson of “shtola doesn’t hit the table unless I have something to protect her”
pallid ocean
Yep
Best baby to protect
I've also seen lines where you only cast her when there is a much more obvious threat on the table
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I played today and I need to fix my board wipe
sacred galleon
i mean i think it depends on how well you can defend yourself while putting yourself in an archenemy situation
because shtola definitely scales in a way that most control decks can only dream of
sacred galleon
I played today and I need to fix my board wipe
have you posted your list? i couldnt find it in the pins
pallid ocean
It's in a weird spot on the KOS commander list
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have you posted your list? i couldnt find it in the pins
They never pin it lmao
sacred galleon
😦
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My list sucks haha
pallid ocean
It's not immediately game winning as a vivi would be
And does not Garner as much value as a kaalia would
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One sec I’ll resend mine
pallid ocean
But it is a disgusting amount of value over time
sacred galleon
haha funny you mention, my girlfriend loves vivi but hates the storm playstyle so im building her a big spells vivi list to take advantage of the mana ability more than the ping ability
pallid ocean
Don't bother with my list, I've been retooling it and I'll replace the actual link
pallid ocean
haha funny you mention, my girlfriend loves vivi but hates the storm playstyle s...
The problem with big spells vivi is she needs more spells to grow big
But I'm always happy to see vivi powered down
It's much more interesting than the usual
sacred galleon
It's in a weird spot on the KOS commander list
but yeah it's tough, i think that's where some of the repeatable goad like ghoulish impetus and eye of nidhogg comes into play for me. like sure, you could try removing my stuff, but ultimately if i make someone else a bigger problem there's other things to be pointing removal at
pallid ocean
I do like that she isn't as KOS as the other commanders
Much easier to fit bracket 3
sacred galleon
It's much more interesting than the usual
yeah she detests taking too much game time at the table and also hates ending games out of nowhere since she wants to see the other decks at the table do stuff, so i figure big spells is a fun way to balance that out a bit
pallid ocean
That said, yshtola tickles my deckbuilding brain
sacred galleon
haha yeah i like how open-ended she is given the noncreature instead of instants/sorceries
pallid ocean
She has a ton of flexibility once you look past the cheaty spells and protection
wide quiver
Stuff like [[thousand moon smithy]] seems neat in the token build
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Legendary Artifact
When Thousand Moons Smithy enters, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."
At the beginning of your first main phase, you may tap five untapped artifacts and/or creatures you control. If you do, transform Thousand Moons Smithy.
Barracks of the Thousand
Legendary Artifact Land
(Transforms from Thousand Moons Smithy.)
: Add .
Whenever you cast an artifact or creature spell using mana produced by Barracks of the Thousand, create a white Gnome Soldier artifact creature token with "This token's power and toughness are each equal to the number of artifacts and/or creatures you control."
sacred galleon
esper enchantress and artifacts both come to mind as viable options
pallid ocean
Stuff like [[thousand moon smithy]] seems neat in the token build
Yea it's one of the artifact supporting token cards
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Enduring and Vito feel kinda weird atm
pallid ocean
Still waiting for other cards to use those tokens
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But I’ll play with them for another week
pallid ocean
Pretty much
I did add them in my first draft since it did count as staples for orzhov
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[[dancer’s chakram]] moment ?
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Artifact — Equipment
Job select (When this Equipment enters, create a 1/1 colorless Hero creature token, then attach this to it.)
Equipped creature gets +2/+2, has lifelink and "Other commanders you control get +2/+2 and have lifelink," and is a Performer in addition to its other types.
Krishna — Equip
pallid ocean
But I ended cutting it since it didn't really fit the theme I wanted
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👀
wide quiver
Dancer's chakrams is kinda expensive for giving lifelink
pallid ocean
It is one of the better cards for lifelink with flavor
pallid ocean
Dancer's chakrams is kinda expensive for giving lifelink
It's not that bad when you realize the competition is basilisk collar and whip of erebos
For repeatable instances that isn't an aura
Shadowspear is the best but it's pricy af
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Also it’s a blocker too ig
wide quiver
Yeah I was just going to mention that lol
Yeah and when you lose the blocker, you lose the lifelink and have to equip
sacred galleon
[[steel of the godhead]] did some nasty work since vigi unblockable cat just started bonking
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wide quiver
Yeah steel is crazy
sacred galleon
but yeah artifacts are definitely more resilient than auras
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It’s not bad thou bc you can just give it to yshtola
wide quiver
If we run a lot of both, I guess we valuie phasing more than blinking
pallid ocean
It's also mostly because I think artifacts have better synergy than auras
Enchantress is just as strong but lacking the green makes it worse imo
sacred galleon
i dont think it's a bad angle, but yeah you can be a bit mana hungry
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Honestly
pallid ocean
I think yshtola does benefit by focusing more on either one of the subthemes than mixing both equally
sacred galleon
i think you just have to be pretty picky about when you play your auras without green shitting out mana constantly lol
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Yshtola is in one of the most control color combo
We don’t need her to be green lol
pallid ocean
I also think green does help your color combo with a ton more draw
Although yshtola doesn't really need that as much
sacred galleon
oh no for sure she absolutely doesnt need it lol
wide quiver
Every deck could use green
pallid ocean
I think enchantress with green is just as valuetown as simic landfall
sacred galleon
Every deck could use green
hence why i stray away from green, personally
sacred galleon
but yeah @maiden widget [[cleansing nova]] and [[crux of fate]] are not great in terms of board wipes imo
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but yeah <@429656957629235201> [[cleansing nova]] and [[crux of fate]] are not g...
I know lol I’m working on getting better one lol
sacred galleon
ah gotcha
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I like 7 board wipe
pallid ocean
I've been roughly thinking of the parts of the yshtola deck and how I'd rank them in priority
sacred galleon
yeah its definitely one of those decks you can tinker away at for plenty of time before theyre in a good place
pallid ocean
- Mana
- Protection
- Draw
- Win Con
sacred galleon
sounds about right to me
wide quiver
What protection are you running?
sacred galleon
the more mana/discounts you have the more shtola does her thing
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For me
pallid ocean
Interaction and board wipes, some blockers
I think those decks that run super low creature counts get vulnerable to be run over
Even with pillow fort cards
sacred galleon
What protection are you running?
7 counterspells, and 6ish pieces of protection, though i could probably stand to put in some more