@modest ocean what do you think about this?
#Cantrip Overload.
lone quail
tacit lotus
how are you trying to actually win?
make a bunch of tokens and slowly chip away?
the pure discounters don't seem greatwhen you have 20+ spells that don't have discountable costs
lone quail
the pure discounters don't seem greatwhen you have 20+ spells that don't have di...
Yeah I actually noticed that too 😆
tacit lotus
archmage of runes is good because at least you get extra draw
if you're going to insist on playing single target removal, i would replace most of the bad blue ones with better white ones
lone quail
if you're going to insist on playing single target removal, i would replace most...
Sure. Pongify and rapid hybrid are good? But opinions, opinions. Also you win by playing low mana cost spells and then getting a lotta tokens and card draw.
And using divining top to cycle through stuff you don’t want.
tacit lotus
i would only play pong and hybrid when you're in only izzet
when you have access to white, you have better options that can either hit more permanent types and/or exile
lone quail
Alright, I understand. A win condition of the deck is also to like mystical tutor one of your better enchantments to the top and then flashing it in or playing it. Stuff like that, casting the one mana cards makes your commander a good attacker.
Here’s the edhrec of the commander.
tacit lotus
i'm familiar with the commander
none of your spells give evasion though, so you can do all this cantrippy prowess stuff and have your commander just to get chumped by any thing
lone quail
So replace some of the one mana cantrips with small buffers to help creatures do more dmg?
I’m fine with also just scrapping the deck. I just wanted to build a new thing to try out on Sunday.
tacit lotus
i would cut the discounters first
only keep the ones that do something meaningfully extra like archmage of runes
even [[eluge]] would be way better because that actually works on coloured pips
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tacit lotus
[[eluge shoreless sea]]
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Legendary Creature — Elemental Fish
Eluge's power and toughness are each equal to the number of Islands you control.
Whenever Eluge enters or attacks, put a flood counter on target land. It's an Island in addition to its other types for as long as it has a flood counter on it.
The first instant or sorcery spell you cast each turn costs 
(or 
) less to cast for each land you control with a flood counter on it.
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tacit lotus
out of your token generators, i think chrome host seed shark is your worst one
with all the 1 mana spells, you don't wanna spend another 2 mana to flip into a creature
lone quail
Alright, so should I replace the cantrips for more meaningful, low mana cards?
Like giving it +2/+0 and death touch for example
tacit lotus
can you even give deathtouch in jeskai
tacit lotus
well there are cantrips that have extra utility rather than just looking at cards
[[enter the enigma]]
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tacit lotus
i would trim on some of the token generators, the discounters, and the worst removal pieces and maybe look at a storm win con
[[thousand year storm]] could be fun
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lone quail
So should I have more counter spells then single target removal, cause I kinda like [[Rewind]]
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tacit lotus
counters work well in a deck like this since you can hold up mana for potential threats, but if no one does anything you care about countering, you can just draw cards instead
lone quail
Sure. You think I should add more top deck support?
tacit lotus
uhhh
lone quail
Like [[One with the Multiverse]]
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tacit lotus
idk, i think your commander is good enough
honestly i think you just kinda durdle around too much and die in a lot of games
without a token maker at least
lone quail
I get where you are coming from. I’ll scrap the deck. Thanks for the feedback
Preciate you man
tacit lotus
also force of negation sucks in commander unless you're playing against all combo decks