#4 color land deck

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tender flax
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could use feedback

tender flax
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realized i need cuts

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1 for [[terra eternal]]

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tender flax
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and 2-3 for some coun terspells

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and 1-2 more for some more ramp

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probably [[fertilid] and one more

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fair gull
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Obuun and Lagac seem like the least impressive landfall critters you have. Ior Ruins is kinda mediocre for card draw and Momentary Blink seems ambitious since you'll only wanna use it for Omnath if you drop between 4-6 lands in one turn but not simultaneously. I suppose there are a few other etbs but not enough to justify it imo

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Just noticed Meneldor. Same argument

tender flax
fair gull
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that or add more useful etbs so it's more broadly useful. Or third option, add blink that has other uses like protection from wraths

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isn't there a new one from Bloomburrow that doubles as removal actually...?

tender flax
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I think so

fair gull
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found it. [[parting gust]]

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tender flax
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I'll swith momentary blink with that

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Cut melendor

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ior ruins?

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I wanna keep lagac

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Obunn could probable go

fair gull
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could do, it's just not efficient draw enough imo. You're saving on one mana in exchange for a way clunkier Divination

tender flax
tender flax
fair gull
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no easy ones tbh, everything else is a pretty consistently good powerlevel

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strong and/or with good synergy with landfall gameplan

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maybe Replication Technique...?

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There are better clones and you don't play many huge bombs yourself, so relying on opponents to do so

tender flax
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I put it in there for the many landfall triggers that I can copy

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Like zendikars roll

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Valkut exploration

fair gull
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sure, but instead of running that conditional clone (conditional on you having another useful piece in play) you could just run another good landfall effect

tender flax
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Couldn't find any others

fair gull
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tbh you've probably already hit the critical mass you need for Landfall triggers anyway

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[[copy enchantment]] is way more cost efficient for enchants, and [[rite of replication for creatures]]? Idk how pricey those are tho

neon flameBOT
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No card found for “rite of replication for creatu…”

fair gull
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[[rite of replication]]

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tender flax
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[[$rite of replication]]

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fair gull
tender flax
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I can run rite of replication

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Instead

fair gull
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sure, that card is scary with the kicker lmao. Less flexible than Replication Technique ofc but I think the potential upside lategame more 6han makes up for it

tender flax
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Couldn't copy [[valkut exploration]]

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fair gull
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true, that's one of the tradeoffs. But generally speaking a jack of all trades is worse than a master of one

tender flax
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tender flax
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I could run [[nissa steward of elements

fair gull
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planeswalkers are generally weak in EDH but your deck is swarmy enough with a ton of landfall chump blocker tokens that you could support it if you wanted

tender flax
neon flameBOT
fair gull
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seems unneccessary tbh, unless your meta has a track record of running/condoning MLD?

tender flax
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Or any land destruction

fair gull
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I'd run it if the gameplan was animating my lands constantly, but that's only a small subtheme in yours right?

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otherwise it's insurance against a weapon very few people carry

tender flax
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It would leave room for other stuff too

fair gull
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if you're worried about that sort of thing the answe would probably be to find a more versatile card that can also fish lands out of the graveyard if neccessary?

tender flax
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[[Dragon egg token]]s are good chump blockers I realize

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tender flax
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fair gull
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[[splendid reclamation]] [[praetor's grasp]] [[sevinne's reclamation]] [[sun titan]] etc

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fair gull
tender flax
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I have a promo spending reclamation

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I could use that

fair gull
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sry, its late here, my brain is misfiring 😄

fair gull
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its good with fetchlands but those are stupid expensive

tender flax
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As an option

fair gull
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yeah I know, brain going bleh 😄

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the two bottom ones are good tho

tender flax
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I could do sun titan

fair gull
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It's hard to go wrong with Sunboi

tender flax
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Need room for 1 more counterspell and ramp peice

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Unless I have enouph ramp alreafy

tender flax
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How's the mana curve

fair gull
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I don't consider manacurve beyond making sure I play the commander the turn I want sry 😄

tender flax
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Ah

fair gull
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4cmc commander means 2cmc ramp is preferred for example

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ramp t2, then into commander t3 ideally

tender flax
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Cuz ink treader

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4 colors

fair gull
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cmc means converted mana cost, just means if you ramp on turn 2, you'll have 4 mana available on turn 3

tender flax
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Provided it's colored mana

fair gull
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whereas if you ramped on turn 3 with Kodama's Reach or somehing similar, you'll still only play Omnath on turn 4. So you basically didn't accelerate

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[[farseek]] [[growth spiral]]

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tender flax
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I have a growth spiral

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I could add that as my next ramp peice

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Need 2 cuts still

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Looking at my list

fair gull
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I'd say Coralhelm could go

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missed that the first time round

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Scry 1 not rly good enough for 3cmc imo

tender flax
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Untap

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I have tons of creatures that tap to play a land

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Play a land

fair gull
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how many? Isn't it like 2 or 3?

tender flax
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Coral helmet trigger

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Untap

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Play land

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Untap

fair gull
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aye, but I'm saying there's not really enough of a density of that effect to be reliable, so the Scry 1 is realistically the most common output

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fun combo wombo tho

tender flax
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Plus if I wanna untap another creature

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Other then them

tender flax
neon flameBOT
fair gull
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rare case I'd imagine, I have to go to sleep now tho sorry. But good luck with the deck

fair gull
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so good it goes in non-landfall decks

tender flax
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I just realized [[llanowar scout]] is bot in there

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tender flax
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I meant to add it

fair gull
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[[walking atlas]]

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tender flax
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I could add that too

fair gull
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I don't like those effects on creatures personally, I'd run more enchantments instead personally, but some of those can be pricey

tender flax
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[[Skyshroud ranger]] ranger is sorcery speed

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tender flax
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I could replace it

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Instant speed landfall triggers are better then sorcery speed

fair gull
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I prefer stuff like [[exploration]] [[explore]] [[burgeoning]] etc

neon flameBOT
fair gull
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doesn't get rekt by wraths as badly

tender flax
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Thing is they are easer on the wallet

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[[$exploration]]

neon flameBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/dmr/159/exploration

Prices for Exploration
Dominaria Remastered

$19.00 • €12.06 • 11.59 TIX

Dominaria Remastered

$14.09 • 10.14 TIX

Magic Online Promos

18.72 TIX

Double Masters

$20.40 • €10.92 • 13.39 TIX

Double Masters

$43.31 • €29.55

Magic Online Promos

9.69 TIX

Conspiracy

$18.46 • €11.35

Urza's Saga

$31.62 • €19.63 • 13.38 TIX

fair gull
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fair, I only play on emulators so I can only guess at prices 😄

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oof, 20 dollars...?

tender flax
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[[$burgeoning]]

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fair gull
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lmao, ok fair enough keep the critters

tender flax
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Yipee

fair gull
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fits the 2cmc directive as well. If you drop one of those turn 2, you can get Omnath out the next turn

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[[copy land]]

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fair gull
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fun one

tender flax
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I got that in the omo precon

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That totally works

tender flax
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Think of how many scute swarms I could get

fair gull
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yeh, I like that combo too tbh 😄 but I really am going to bed now so best of luck with the deck-teching 🙂

tender flax
winter wraith
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@tender flax if you're using archidekt you should use the Maybeboard feature for cards you want to put in 😉

tender flax
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Fair fair

winter wraith
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That way you can easily compare which cards are being swapped in/out potentially

tender flax
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It's a counter spell and [[growthspiral]]

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winter wraith
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Ooooo Grwoth Spiral is a must have

tender flax
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Plus [[tireless provisioner]]

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winter wraith
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Have you ever used the Auto-Categories option on Archidekt either? Where it srots things into "ramp" or "Draw" or "tokens" etc?

tender flax
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Never really works

winter wraith
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Well that's fair

tender flax
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Is [[jyoti]] ok here

neon flameBOT
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https://scryfall.com/card/m3c/8/jyoti-moag-ancient

Jyoti, Moag Ancient <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manag:292901508654301185><:manau:292901508754702338>

Legendary Creature — Elemental
When Jyoti, Moag Ancient enters, create a 1/1 green Forest Dryad land creature token for each time you've cast your commander from the command zone this game. (They're affected by summoning sickness.)
At the beginning of each combat, land creatures you control get +X/+X until end of turn, where X is Jyoti's power.
2/4

tender flax
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For the etb

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The second part is not the focus

winter wraith
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How many times do you think You'll be recasting Omnath honestly? I mean he is a reasonable target...

tender flax
winter wraith
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On top of that ironically you want to cast Jyoti with Omnath out to maximize the ETB of those lands

tender flax
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Ye

winter wraith
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So if we're simultaneously counting on Omnath dying a few times but being out when you want to cast this - It will happen sometimes and be great! But might be a low % rarity

tender flax
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So don't add?

winter wraith
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I wouldn't probably

tender flax
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What counterspell

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🤔

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[[$strix serenade]]

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winter wraith
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Adding another one in or want a swap over what you have now?

tender flax
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I want 2

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At least

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I could just add negate

winter wraith
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Negate is always easy

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I assume you don't want actual Counterspell because it's 2U

tender flax
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No

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So what I have a roll elemental

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And tons of double or triple pips

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Landfall be like that

winter wraith
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Why not straight up Counterspell rather than Negate then?

tender flax
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Fair fair

winter wraith
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best counterspell at 2 mana is the one taht hits everything (if we aren't caring about pips)

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I know why it's here but Nesting Dragon might be a miss for me honestly

tender flax
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Great blockers

winter wraith
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The eggs are decent blockers but your creatures are already so large I think they might take up that same space

tender flax
winter wraith
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I mean, yes

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Okay what about Military Intelligence

tender flax
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Card draw, unless you got a better one

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That's not one use

winter wraith
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I mean I'd be more inclined to use something like [[Zimone]] which I understand isn't the exact same realm but it's got 2 purposes

neon flameBOT
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Multiple cards match “Zimone”, can you be more specific?

winter wraith
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[[Zimone Prodigy]]

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winter wraith
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Also as far as cuts go Zendikar's Roil is just a worse Nesting Dragon yea?

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For mroe or less the same price

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I guess just trying to say Tireless Provisioner > Zendikar's Roil

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Rampant Growth -> Growth Spiral (I consider this an upgrade)

tender flax
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Creature wipe specificly

tender flax
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So [[beanstalk giant]]?

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tender flax
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Cut

tender flax
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[[agresive biomancy]] is a potential add

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fair gull
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[[jwari disruption]]

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tender flax
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[[virtue of knowledge]]

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