#Savra Tuning

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cold kraken
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Trying to tune up Savra to start getting the engine or at least the sack shenanigans going early. Deck is supposed to be a high power but unsure what im missing. I have about 3 combos in the deck and such but I would greatly appreciate help. Goal of the deck is to create enough tokens with sack outlets to keep the board mostly clear on my end to be able to win. It is supposed to be hard to deal with and able to at least draw some hate and archenemy. Goldfishing it gives me an average of starting to do things around turn 8, which in reality that is turn 10 give or take in paper, and I want to lower that, so any help would be greatly appreciated since I want to start building this deck in paper soon.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/Ev2T4baY5k2x9X03GQMSXw

Moxfield
Savra's Mulch Monopoly - Commander (Savra, Queen of the Golgari)

A deck created using the deck building website, Moxfield.

tulip raptor
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So you essentially want to play around the gravepact effect to play aristocrats control

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My rule for looking to update a deck is to always start from 0 regardless of if the change you are looking for is small or big, this way you just avoid the whole "death by a thousand cuts" scenarios were you introduce more and more dissoncance into a list

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Any restrictions on the types of cards you are comfortable with

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(i assume no RL powercards so you dont have to rob a bank to build this, but other then that)

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Also are there corecards you dont wanna exclude because of any reason?

cold kraken
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I only just want to Run [[Grim Feast]] mainly because i wanna play it somewhere

spark orioleBOT
cold kraken
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but Im open to deleting the whole deck and starting from the ground up

tulip raptor
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I mean it does make sense for the deck too

tulip raptor
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open a new one

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did a quick "core cards" mock up

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these are the cards i think should go in every version of this deck regardless of focus

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(the sideboard are differing options i could think of on the top of my head depending on the focus of gameplay and other utility options like ramp, color splite etc.)

cold kraken
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yeah, I think I want to do the gravepact playstyle

tulip raptor
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Its a very powerful playstyle

cold kraken
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but also wanted to have enough hybrid cards to even out on savra triggers if she's on board but realized that I will need to make it more not lean on the commander too much.

tulip raptor
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The token route is probably the way to go

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is there a budget limit outside of "i dont have more money then god"?

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General tip for deckbuilding is never fill in the lands until the end unless you are doing a specific land focused build, like if you are a Coffers deck, this is why i just put in 36 wastes as filler for now

cold kraken
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around the 700$ is there. but also like most of the budget will go into lands, so excluding lands for the moment

tulip raptor
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how draw heavy is your meta?

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also is there a heavy green slant?

cold kraken
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my meta? not enough, me, a lot>

slant?

tulip raptor
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i mean black

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was thinking about this card

tulip raptor
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Cause if there is a lot of black creatures compost will just make this deck draw so much

tulip raptor
cold kraken
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yeah. we're all mid to high power, leaning more to high power

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theres black splash decks butI haven't paid much attention to how many decks in a game play black. I can put it in and it can do some work ofc, but we'll see

tulip raptor
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Also how removal heavy is your meta, and how is the removal allocated, as in what types of removal are there

cold kraken
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Im known as the player who plays the most removal in my meta

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I typically try to run between 8-12 pieces of removal in my deck, mostly instants

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with savra and fleshbag effects, creature removal will not be needed as much in the deck tho

tulip raptor
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Yeah, i would only put a few wipes like toxic deluge and Massacre Worm

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Massacre Worm is a wincon in and of itself

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and you want some wipes for when you got hated out

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but not to much

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all in total maybe 2-3 wipes

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(including Massacre)

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i was asking for the type of removal, cause if there isnt that much artifact removal and this can stay on field for a few turns its really good value, if there are artifact wipes every few sec its kinda dead thouhg

card-yj7Ob-normal.webp
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I have come to really like Weatherlight Compleated

cold kraken
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Added Living Death, Wurm and deluge

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there is enough aritfact removal.

tulip raptor
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yeah that + Meathook massacre means you have like 4 wipes which is more then enough

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I think the token route is the way to go your initial draft had the right idea but just a bit expensive in that regard i think

cold kraken
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i didnt hadd meathook though I should get it

tulip raptor
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Meathook massacre will be the best card in your deck

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this card overperforms every single time

cold kraken
tulip raptor
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i would definitly also go with Dictate of Erebos

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its a 1 mana more expensive Gravepact but has flash

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that way you can really catch people

cold kraken
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for context, this will be my second aristocrats deck

tulip raptor
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how cheap is your meta?

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like how many low cmc permanents

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cause [[Culling Ritual]] is still a monster of a card to clear up enchantress and artifact decks

spark orioleBOT
cold kraken
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my average decks run between 1.53-1.93 with lands

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but i also pay more attention to mana curve than others

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but it runs round 2

tulip raptor
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What about opponents many token decks or a lot of mana rocks?

cold kraken
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mostly rocks but i would say even

tulip raptor
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This does look like a field of the dead deck to me too

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[[Sakura-Tribe Elder]] is also gonna be great

spark orioleBOT
tulip raptor
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How many pieces of land ramp is the norm? As someone that doesnt tutor i am unsure how much is optimal or usually played

cold kraken
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it depends on budget and predilections of people. Mine is dependent on how often I can hit lands from card draw. I tend to at least run 2 pieces of land ramp in sorc slots

tulip raptor
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how frowned uppon is [[Oppo Agent]] where you play?

spark orioleBOT
tulip raptor
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this is the ramp package i have so far added

cold kraken
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added some of them

tulip raptor
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Looking at more green options now (i am very heavily in black with my card choices in general with all decks if i dont reign myself in)

cold kraken
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lol happens

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I like the Trudge Garden - Savra - Ashnod's Altar combo.

tulip raptor
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Thats a good one

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sure you need a life drainer

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but thats not gonna be hard

cold kraken
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yeah.

tulip raptor
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also i think you were right about grist

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that pw looks stupid for this deck

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so much utility

cold kraken
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there is also one with blightmound and something else

tulip raptor
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Whats your opinion on [[Howling Moon]]?

spark orioleBOT
cold kraken
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eh

tulip raptor
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works for all opponents seperatly

cold kraken
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Blightmound + Phy Altar* + Reassembling Skelleton

cold kraken
tulip raptor
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it is stupid that Savra can choose if she wants to use her first effect

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makes her so flexible and keeps you from killing yourself in infinites

cold kraken
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yeah. is the reason why I wanna do this deck

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always loved the simple effect

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so far new list has 64 cards

tulip raptor
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nearly through all the green token makers

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the list i have been throwing cards into so far has 93

cold kraken
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Beledross wouldbe a neat re-add

tulip raptor
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that is definitly the best effect of its kind

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i would add it

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and just see if its dead to often or not

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cause 7 mana is a lot

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but if this gets reanimated or cast and sticks this is brutal

cold kraken
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i mean, early game it would be THE play with dread return or reanimate

tulip raptor
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yeah

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yeah my list definitly has to much removal

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tulip raptor
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first draft that got to 100 cards

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still a bit iffy on it, feels a bit to much removal and not enough draw

cold kraken
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on my list?

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It does need more draw tbh

tulip raptor
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the list i posted

cold kraken
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oh oka

tulip raptor
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12 carddraw pieces is just a bit low for my taste

cold kraken
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adding Forbidden orchard also gives them bodies to sack which benenfit you

tulip raptor
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the landbase is interesting

cold kraken
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currently doing stuff on my end

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of the list

tulip raptor
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i do feel the Plaguecrafters are a bit much with the rest of the flexible removal we will have

cold kraken
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one at least should be enough TBH

tulip raptor
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first testhand

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this is the edh i know

cold kraken
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NO LANDS!

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IDK, Meren is acard I would not run. I would run her dragon though

tulip raptor
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Meren just seems so strong in a list like this, but if you dont like it cut it obviously

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i dont think you even need fetchlands for this

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I am keeping a look at your list, and i honestly think aslong as the carddraw ends up decent this is gonna be a very strong deck

cold kraken
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adding a few things from the og list too

tulip raptor
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fiend artisan is a really good card

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ah i see you are going less reanimator more creatures instead

cold kraken
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i also need to add reanimation cards, just haven't gotten around to em'

quick wind
spark orioleBOT
tulip raptor
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I am not a fan of signets