#TheCrimsonChariot's Decklist Thread

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fleet brook
hasty flume
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Liliana, Heretic Healer

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Liliana's Standard Bearer

fleet brook
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[[Liliana's Standard Bearer]]

wooden schoonerBOT
hasty flume
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do you have budget restraints?

fleet brook
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yes and no.

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mostly trying to not push to be Korvold strong

hasty flume
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Orcish Bowmasters

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Lotho, Corrupt Sherrif

fleet brook
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the main issue is card draw and bodies lately

hasty flume
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instead of Reassembling Skeleton i would go Relentless dead

fleet brook
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and having consistent ways to recurr stuff.

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[[Relentless Dead]]

wooden schoonerBOT
hasty flume
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[[Ayara, First of Locthwain]] is good draw

wooden schoonerBOT
hasty flume
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and if you consider going down in cmc a bit you can include a [[Lurrus]] + [[Animate Dead]] + [[Dance of the Dead]] package

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Creature — Cat Nightmare
Companion — Each permanent card in your starting deck has mana value 2 or less. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for mana3 as a sorcery.)
Lifelink
Once during each of your turns, you may cast a permanent spell with mana value 2 or less from your graveyard.
3/2

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Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature card in a graveyard
When Animate Dead enters the battlefield, if it's on the battlefield, it loses "enchant creature card in a graveyard" and gains "enchant creature put onto the battlefield with Animate Dead." Return enchanted creature card to the battlefield under your control and attach Animate Dead to it. When Animate Dead leaves the battlefield, that creature's controller sacrifices it.
Enchanted creature gets -1/-0.

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Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature card in a graveyard
When Dance of the Dead enters the battlefield, if it's on the battlefield, it loses "enchant creature card in a graveyard" and gains "enchant creature put onto the battlefield with Dance of the Dead." Put enchanted creature card onto the battlefield tapped under your control and attach Dance of the Dead to it. When Dance of the Dead leaves the battlefield, that creature's controller sacrifices it.
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and doesn't untap during its controller's untap step.
At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted creature's controller, that player may pay mana1manab. If the player does, untap that creature.

hasty flume
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Teysa Orzhov Scion you mentioned is in your consideration, i really do like her as a card in arristocrats

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she worked good for me so far

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also instead of something like Syr Konrad i would prioritise a Meathook Masacre

fleet brook
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never owned a meathook so hence why

hasty flume
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my Lurrus arristocrats if you wanna take a look

hasty flume
fleet brook
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I'll probably add Orzhov Scion and CVoffin Queen since I have both in my binder. just dunno what to cut

hasty flume
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also erebos is really good

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like really good

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its an optional Dark Prophecy

fleet brook
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i have 6 CMC Athreos at home but i find it too slow for my liking

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i may have that erebos, I will have to check

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just need cutable stuff.

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Priest of the forgotten gods will be cut

hasty flume
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cuttable stuff is imo:
Clockwork Fox - you go down in cards compared to the table
Secure the Wastes - you dont really need pure token makers
Call the Coppercoats - see above
Oketra's Monument - Not enough white imo
Welcoming Vampire - you have better carddraw options
Darksteel Ingot - a Jet Medallion would be better

fleet brook
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Oketra's Monument is not really there for the cost reduction, its there for the free bdoies

fleet brook
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yeah, so I will do some changes here and there and see how it goes in the long term.

fleet brook
hasty flume
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np

fleet brook
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Would Ravos Soultender work in this deck?

hasty flume
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not a fan of upkeep triggers for recoursion

fleet brook
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Makes sense. I just have one and a tymna in my binders and idk what to do with em

fleet brook
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Played the deck again today. Its… hit and miss. I will need lifegain to offset the lifeloss for otger effects.

fleet brook
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@stark hedge

stark hedge
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\o/

fleet brook
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It could use a better name. Also during the game, of the upgrades, only saw Greaves and Reliquary Tower.

stark hedge
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Scooby Snax

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(investigation + food)

fleet brook
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Thinking on getting an Old Gnawbones. But mostly want to focus on clues

fleet brook
stark hedge
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\o/

fleet brook
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The second BftP deck I’ll make it with Alistair at the helm. He’s a beast

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As for upgrades to deal with flyers…

stark hedge
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big dino?(big dino)

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mmm. how 'on theme' of doctor whoy stuff with dinosaurs do you want, instead of 'fantasy adventuring party'

fleet brook
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Most creature upgrades I did were hoomans.

stark hedge
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[[vivien reid]] would... theoretically work... but that might be a little out there

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Planeswalker — Vivien
+1: Look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal a creature or land card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
−3: Destroy target artifact, enchantment, or creature with flying.
−8: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control get +2/+2 and have vigilance, trample, and indestructible."
Loyalty: 5

fleet brook
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And I’m thinking on cutting perri Brown and romana II

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Meh. Vivien is a card I rarely find a slot for

stark hedge
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Semi expensive at 6, but ticks the historic permanents checkbox. The Fourth Doctor also is perfectly enough to crew it, and between your commander and a vehicle you would likely want to lose the vehicle.

fleet brook
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Im honestly cutting some of the doctors and probably TARDIS.

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It does look neat too the cybership

stark hedge
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I'd probably leave the tardis in a sideboard at least if you ever play planechase.

fleet brook
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Yeah. But its rare tbh.

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Imma be back tomorrow. I need sleep

stark hedge
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This is a one time effect, but the card art looks cool i literally have no clue what WHO moment it represents tho and it's effect should be quite useful.

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ok honestly this must be included at all costs I think because it fits like everything your deck does

fleet brook
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I should add Chulane to the 99 at this rate

stark hedge
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honestly like that is a ton of stuff for scooby snax

fleet brook
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Chulane? Mainly saying it because of the bounce ability

stark hedge
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horse(horse)

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Hmmm. Chulane is at 5 mana. I don't think that's good just for the bounce ability.

fleet brook
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[[Chulane, Teller]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Hmm. Also gives me card draw. I forgot about that

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Suuuuuuuure…? Why not more card draw?

stark hedge
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[[kefnet the mindful]] ....fits the role of a blocker? thonk

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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(also card draw)

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(also it is cheaepr than chulane, if a possibly annoying restriction)

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doesn't bounce tho

fleet brook
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I have a Chulane already is why I suggested it

stark hedge
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For bounce and card draw, this is oddly still who themed.

fleet brook
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Imma go through my stuff tomorrow and see what I can do. I need to sleep now

stark hedge
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yeee night

fleet brook
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Thnx tho

stark hedge
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oh

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also that's an anti wipe card

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(er antisweeper)

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(honestly that card is neat I need to remember it more it's such a neat effect for 4 mana)

night vale
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It's also good for rebuying etbs/casts and resetting some mana rocks

fleet brook
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yeah. Need to solve the flying issue first too. once thats done, move on to fiddling with the instants and sorceries. IDK where i want tot ake this deck to yet, and Im ok with taking my time

night vale
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You go to sleep. The one question is whether the intention is to keep it all classic Doctors

fleet brook
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im at work now. and no

night vale
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OK

fleet brook
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i did sleep tho

night vale
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[[The thirteenth doctor]] could add a lot.

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Just as a backup to 5

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I love 2 and Benton but I don't know how much group hug you want.

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If you're looking for cuts to add Chulane

fleet brook
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i was keeping both the second doc and brenton. the second doc for the time being. brenton I can use him as a politics thing

night vale
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[[Abzan falconer]] and [[skatewing spy]] help on flying a little

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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i dont have a lot of +1 counter synnergy tho

night vale
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OK. I was explaining where my brain was going that would add it to help with flying

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But I get where you're going.

fleet brook
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yeah. Trying to keep to the historic side of things but I may have to add stuff like Urza and artifact flyers to make more use of the clues and foods and treasures

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Probably a Jaheira too

fleet brook
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just realized I can put Lonis in this deck too OMG

stark hedge
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i mean hey you want a weird flex pick that will make people really angry out of nowhere :v

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(ok you have white there are better removal choices)

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this is expensive but also like... lol

night vale
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[[$Wonder]] is less expensive

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night vale
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[[Wonder]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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But it doesn't remove flying from your opponent's creatures

stark hedge
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yeah archetype of imagination is also just a win con on it's own

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i mean it's a flyer thonk and synergy

fleet brook
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i do have archetype of imagination

stark hedge
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dungeons might have anti flying tech

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iunno

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HONK. HONKHONKHONK

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(that scales decently well, makes more historic, flying, AND cheap draw trigger)

night vale
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[[Samwise Gamgee]]

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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This is kind of expensive but also a legendary artifact and uh. looks cool. I guess?

night vale
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[[Jaheira]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Multiple cards match “Jaheira”, can you be more specific?

night vale
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[[Jaheira, friend of]]

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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Honestly this card is just hilarious.

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also part of the reserved list but fairly cheap, hum

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damn thought about gemrazer but that doesn't work for human decks

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even if time lords can be mutated which is kinda hilarious

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[[wilson, refined grizzly]] is just a massive beatstick I guess that just has a bunch of nice things. also funny

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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[[halana, kessig ranger]] is both a cheapish 3/4 with reach but ALSO gives a repeatable ETB fight effect

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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[[toxicrene]] is 4 toughness with deathtouch and reach, 4 mana, aaaand it's land hate. Kinda. weird land hate

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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...but you're probably using your land abilities so eh.

fleet brook
stark hedge
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honk

stark hedge
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[[webspinner cuff]] is just uh. Cool. I guess. like it's a 1/4 for 3 with reach, but also can give an equipped creature reach. neat

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
stark hedge
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amongus meowkindasus

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ok [[consulate skygate]] is just kind of a boring 2 cost wall but worth mentioning cause historic

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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It triggers stuff which matters for the bottom line

stark hedge
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dinosaurs should be historic why aren't they historic :c

fleet brook
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Lol i see what you did there

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But yah.

stark hedge
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OH

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[[jhoira's familiar]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Need to do changed slowly but Will def get Honkdra

stark hedge
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it does MULTIPLE THINGS

fleet brook
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Indeed

stark hedge
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[[brago, king eternal]] flickers which you may want

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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and only a 4 mana

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....

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how many food and clues do you make again

fleet brook
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Commanders only trigger once per turn.

fleet brook
stark hedge
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ooooimpulse

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(also, looks awesome)

fleet brook
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Considered it tbh

stark hedge
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[[nautiloid ship]] is out of color opponent reanimate AND a 5/5 flyer

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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also graveyard hate

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[[reidane, god of the worthy]] has vigilance too aaaand it'll probably make the entire pod hate you but hey. :p

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Creature — God
Flying, vigilance
Snow lands your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped.
Noncreature spells your opponents cast with mana value 4 or greater cost mana2 more to cast.
2/3

Valkmira, Protector's Shield mana3manaw
Legendary Artifact
If a source an opponent controls would deal damage to you or a permanent you control, prevent 1 of that damage.
Whenever you or another permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter that spell or ability unless its controller pays mana1.

stark hedge
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[[gluntch, the bestower]] funni blocker for 3 mana

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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sorry but I have to mention [[gold-forged thopteryx]] for just being 2 mana and INCREDIBLY. AWESOME.

wooden schoonerBOT
stark hedge
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[[cephalopod sentry]] is historic, and 4 mana for uh... a lot of power possibly.

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
night vale
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Toxril+Kormus Bell+[[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Do you want to make it impossible for your opponents to play lands?

fleet brook
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Lol I won’t make Toxriil until I figure out Bartolome and The Doctor deck

night vale
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Good plan

fleet brook
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Also I don’t think I’ll be that level of mean. I’d probably side-board it but not run it in the main deck

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I have to admit I did win yesterday with Bartolome by casting Gary. Sacking all to my commander with a Blood Artist on board and then Living Death

fleet brook
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I added more cards to the deck. Idk what to cut to add for Teshar or Cephalopod Sentry

fleet brook
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Been also considering adding Tireless Tracker / Tireless Provisioner / Bootlegger’s Stash

fleet brook
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Well added the provisioner but idk if it’ll work

fleet brook
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Started working on [[Saheeli, the Sun’s Brilliance]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Artificer
manaumanar, manat: Create a token that's a copy of another target creature or artifact you control, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. It gains haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.
What began as a single gift for Huatli became a battalion of automatons unlike anything ever seen on Ixalan.
2/2

night vale
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I'm trying to figure out this saheeli

fleet brook
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Etb triggers?

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Im running all other saheelis in the deck too

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Copy artifacts

night vale
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I guess it's because she's (sensibly) mana throttled so my brain isn't there yet.

fleet brook
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My idea behind commanders like this is play with the ability through other sources

night vale
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So just good etbs?

fleet brook
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I guess? I just started brewing so it’ll be a couple of hours before I post a list here. (Or at least 1 hour)

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My goal is to try and make it more timmy oriented so things like Mirrorworks and Drafna will be in the 99 but a lot of rocks will be needed aslo

supple scroll
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Yea, basically just a fair izzet Kiki-Jiki

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Here’s my Kiki for reference

night vale
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So, it's more the costing RU

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Ooh [[determined iteration]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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I was trying to remember it's name too.

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And it's like Kiki and Feldon had a child

fleet brook
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indeed

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idk why i like this saheeli a lot

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I can probably make a cheaper version with the stuff I have at home, but the list will look completely different that this. Though I would like help refining it. Since it seems like an interesting concept and I would have a place to slot in Jaxis and other cards I have but don't get to play often

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like Clockwork Fox and Filigree Familiar, so on and so forth. Im trying to stay away from my regular crutch combos and try something new with artifacts too

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this saheeli's is the -2 ability of

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[[Saheeli Rai]] except its sacrificed instead of exiled

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Planeswalker — Saheeli
+1: Scry 1. Saheeli Rai deals 1 damage to each opponent.
−2: Create a token that's a copy of target artifact or creature you control, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. That token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
−7: Search your library for up to three artifact cards with different names, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
Loyalty: 3

night vale
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Huh... my brain just thought of the old inalla wanderwine combo

fleet brook
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????

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i dont followe

night vale
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[[Inalla]] [[wanderwine prophet]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Eminence — Whenever another nontoken Wizard enters the battlefield under your control, if Inalla, Archmage Ritualist is in the command zone or on the battlefield, you may pay mana1. If you do, create a token that's a copy of that Wizard. The token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
Tap five untapped Wizards you control: Target player loses 7 life.
4/5

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Creature — Merfolk Wizard
Champion a Merfolk (When this enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you exile another Merfolk you control. When this leaves the battlefield, that card returns to the battlefield.)
Whenever Wanderwine Prophets deals combat damage to a player, you may sacrifice a Merfolk. If you do, take an extra turn after this one.
4/4

fleet brook
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oh I see how this would work. damn thats cheeky

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ETB trigger, copy the creature, with champion trigger on the stack?, Copy does etb trigger, champion wanderwine prophets then take an extra turn after combat?

night vale
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Yeah, or even just be able to feldon it from the GY onto a different merfolk like Emri or Dalakos

fleet brook
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seems neat but almost like a home streach to pull off.

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there is a card out there that reduces activated abilites of colored mana of something right?

night vale
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Definitely colorless reduction

dark vapor
fleet brook
# night vale Definitely colorless reduction

Yeah. Which won’t work much for this list (will hVe to go through it again) but even then, i know in the last few years at least 1-3 cards were printed for colored mana reduction for some stuff. Probably it’s clerics. In which case, nvmd

fleet brook
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so now the deck needs cuts before I move on to goldfish this thing.

fleet brook
night vale
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So, I did a sealed game and I got a copy of her. I hadn't thought about, since they're both delayed sacrifice triggers, you can activate her or Feldon in the end step of the opponent before you.

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And have an extra copy in your turn.

fleet brook
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so thats how it works?

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i always get confused with "At the beginning of the next endstep" effects because there are two versions

night vale
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I won a game because I was able to have 3 [[Panicked altisaurs]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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I thought it was worth telling you because it might adjust what you're doing

fleet brook
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i mean, yeah it can. I just need to cut cards before we go on to goldfishing

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idk what to cut and I need extra eyes

dark vapor
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Huh that does make a good budget option for burn decks.

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That dinosaur.

night vale
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I'm looking now. Sorry, sick today.

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I'm thinking about the enigma jewel here

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You have 18 activated abilities including mana abilities

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I think that's not counting timestream navigators ability

fleet brook
night vale
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Hmm... so I'm thinking about this' with the sundial. How much do you want to see that effect?

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Is it a "I'm happy to draw into it" "I really would like to see it most games" or "It's a priority"

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Because with the # of copy effects that are "at the beginning of the next end step" creatures you have I might put it as a priority card

fleet brook
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I just added it cuz a) i have one and b) im not using it

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Tbh those are the reasons.

night vale
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Saheeli, Feldon, Jaxis and Orthion

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Yes

fleet brook
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But yeah, it would be good to have acess to it often as i would be able to keep stff but would die on next end step

night vale
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?

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If you use it with the trigger on the stack they stay around

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And it never triggers again

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They just stay

fleet brook
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Oh okay.

Most of my brain was “red’s version of value and instant gratification vs delayed gratification”

night vale
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[[Delina]]'s trigger just gets pushed back.

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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To the next combat correct? (Sorry, this is the part of magic ive yet to understand/master)

night vale
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Yes, it would get exiled at the end of the next combat (player after you)

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Feldon and the others are a delayed trigger but Delina's is on the token

fleet brook
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i see.

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yeah, it would make sense to want to keep them around every now and again, depending on what token is being made. For example, a Cityscape Leveler I would rather keep, but something like Clockwork Fox for example, I would want the trigger to resolve so I can bank on the death trigger.

night vale
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Yeah

fleet brook
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Hmm. I was considering cutting the sundial today but it makes sense to keep it.

night vale
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It may not be the sort of deck you want though, that's why I was wondering

fleet brook
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oh. Hmm

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yeah. As i said, reds version of value now, worry about it later style is what I was thinking off.

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so the clock coming off.. yeah. I see it. Unless I pack the deck with things that does the same thing it wont matter much in the end.

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ALL THE VALUE!

night vale
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[[Twinshot sniper]] [[combustible gearhulk]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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The sideboard are the cuts

fleet brook
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surprised you cut terror of the peaks but makes sense

night vale
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That was a hard cut. The "least sure about" one

fleet brook
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yeah. it seems neat tho

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never had the pleasure of using it myself.

night vale
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The "I'm at 101 and don't want to cut a land"

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It's a great card. I put it back in because it did hurt to cut it. I put it back and is sitting at 101. Hopefully it's helpful?

fleet brook
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lol its fine. Im doing edits using your version as template because I was at that point where "Well,yeah, I cant do anythinf else"

night vale
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I'm on my phone so putting the suggestion in a decklist and sending it is easiest

fleet brook
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I also tend to run low on lands at 34 bieng the lowest I would run a deck in

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its fine. I tend to do discord 99% on phone

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also, intruder alarm, both mana dork myrs and Saheeli go infinite

night vale
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Again, the other cut I didn't love but it felt like it went with cutting the sundial?

fleet brook
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tbh i dont really cared much for sundial. I did add the Intruder alarm with that combo in mind

night vale
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So if you want it, can put it back in

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That's still a better point than needing to cut 13

fleet brook
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plus Twinshot Sniper it would be lethal

night vale
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What about [[extravagant replication]] as a cut

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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i did consider cutting it. I will add terror for it

night vale
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6 mana and needing to untap with it is a lot slower than the rest

fleet brook
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yeah.

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i think the list is ready. just need to grab the bulk I have and buy the stuff I dont own and see where it goes. I will probs bring this decklist back up in about 2 weeks or so since is the mailing time it takes me to get stuff through tcg

fleet brook
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Managed to get the Merfolk, Vampire and The Grixis Doctor Who decks today. The doctor who one looks amaze

fleet brook
supple scroll
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I'm not a fan of [[Ayara's Oathsworn]]. Maybe it's just me but I want my creatures to get bigger

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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As much as [[Arcus Acolyte]] sounds good, I'm not sure she does all that much considering your stuff should get counters on its own

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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Also, out with Conclave Sledge-Captain, in with [[Necropolis Regent]]

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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I don't really know how to evaluate the [[Duskshell crawler]] effects, they've alwys seemed exceedingly meh to me

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Having trample on everything is fire. Playing saskia trample themed showed me how valuable it is. Also, i haven’t played this deck in almost 6 months, so I don’t remember much from it how it plays

supple scroll
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I'll have to add one to test it then.

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Dangit, I'm back up to 29 cuts hha

fleet brook
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Lol

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Just getting more ways to get stuff bigger I guess but yeah. Talk later. Brain not working atm.

fleet brook
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Goldfishing Saheeli and I managed to get Saheeli to get crazy on turn 5 with a dockside and Pemmin's Aura and Battlemage's Bracers. Drew into a Cybermen Squadron and swung 6 copies of Dockside for a total of 90 treasures on myriad

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(Asuming there are 5 targets on board from the other 3 players for dockside if I know my pod well enough)

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though I realized I need more card draw.

fleet brook
night vale
wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Wincons other than the Brigadier or the dinosaurs?

fleet brook
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Yeah. I’ve considered putting the brigadier as the commander as I rarely draw him. That or put in a combo as a bacmup

fleet brook
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Idk. I do draw but clues are so mana intensive I’ve figured I need more constant draws than clues. Hmm.

night vale
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Maybe the historic coastal piracy effects? We're somehow at 3 now

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[[Toski]], [[bidet of thassaa]] and [[the indomitable]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Huh... I hadn't noticed bident was a may

fleet brook
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[[Reconnaissance Mission]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Yeah, the reason I chose the 3 I did is because they're all legendary

fleet brook
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I know. Just the one that came to mind.

I may try the bridagier as a commander for a bit and see what happens.

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That or the “we all draw” sergeant with haste and trample. Add overrun effects and such too

night vale
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Random trivia. The actor who played Sgt. Benton first appeared as a Cyberman in the same story the character was introduced because the original actor was fired before he turned up on screen.

fleet brook
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Huh. Thats rather neat. I did play the Villans Dr Who deck yesterday and it was interesting, davros is an interesting commander and I love how it works. Missy and Him. Both are good and is hard to choose who will be at the helm, but Davros gives potential card draw and that tends to win more in my@book

fleet brook
night vale
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I built Missy as a deck. She's interesting but I need to spend some more time refining it.

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The one I keep thinking about doing is [[The Cult of Skaro]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Just because it's sort of a weird yolo card where all the options are good.

hasty flume
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I just feel they aren't reliable enough

night vale
fleet brook
hasty flume
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Yeah but that makes building a deck around them kinda unfun imo

fleet brook
# night vale Just adding new cards?

I play the deck but I guess idk how to play urtet. Tbh played it twice, both times I was bombarded with boardwipes and removal as soon as a single creature hit the board so it got shelved

night vale
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Ah, the sliver problem

fleet brook
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This was early in Urtet debut and no one in my LGS played it.

I think it was mostly because everyone else was a problem and aristocrat issues. Its been so long I forget why.

night vale
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Ahh. That happened with my Ashnod (B) deck the last time I played it. The Grenzo player was constantly trying to reset the board of an Okaun/Zndrsplt with goblin chainwhirler and I just couldn't play any creatures.

fleet brook
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Bringing it to the lgs today to see how it wrks but i also know it could use more support cards. Myrs have been my tribe since mirrodin days when I got introduced to MTG for the first time

night vale
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I remember how excited I was when they made the Myr deck.

fleet brook
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I mostly played other people’s decks. I was in 7th grade and tried to make heads of it but i was too young to understand how complex the game was. This was from mirrodin->kamigawa. Hence why both sets are my favs planes

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I do have to say that when Urtet was spoiled, I was beside myself in excitement. “Finally! A Myr Commander!”

fleet brook
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Oh, also yesterday finally decided and found a commander/inspiration to make a mono-white artifact deck. I don’t have an online list yet since theres quite a few things I need to get first, but yeah. Decided on using [[Sanwell Avenger Ace]] for now but will probs switch it to [[Lita]] later on

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Pilot
As long as an artifact creature you control is attacking, prevent all damage that would be dealt to Sanwell, Avenger Ace.
Whenever Sanwell becomes tapped, exile the top six cards of your library. You may cast a Vehicle or artifact creature spell from among them. Then put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
3/1

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Multiple cards match “Lita”, can you be more specific?

supple scroll
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I’d also put up [[Teshar apostle]] for mono white artifacts

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
supple scroll
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There’s also [[Losheel]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Also in the 99 XD

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Also ordered White Tendershoot Dryad [[Illustrous Waderglyph]] and [[Threefold Thunderhulk]] i forgot to get a Liberator though. Probs next purchase.

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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For the deck also got Clockwork Droid, Cybermen Squadron, Cybermat, Cyberman Patrol, Cybership (gives me more artifact creatures) and Midnight Crusader Shuttle.

fleet brook
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I managed to use Tamiyo’s Journal yesterday and tutored three cards out of it during the game. Realized I need more answers to stuff? Idk. At this point im like “this is fixed but now this needs an answer.” I won’t do any major updates for now.

night vale
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I wonder if the erdwal illuminator could be traded out for one

fleet brook
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I have a [[Counterflux]] from my defunct Adrix and Nev deck I wanted to add. Also will probs cut Noble Heritage but it helps with politics and sensing the pulse of who sees you as a threat

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Woops, wrong counterspell

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The simic one that gives you mana

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[[Plasm Capture]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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That seems like a reach unless you're running mana doublers or a lot of fixing.

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or something that lets you spend mana as though it was any color

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At least 2 double pips in a 3 color deck.

fleet brook
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Yeahp. I don’t have… nvmd. I do habe simic decks. The precon.

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I may just add instant more spot removal. 4 pieces is too low for my liking 😅

night vale
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I agree with you

fleet brook
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Ordered [[Astrid Perth]] for it and [[Sally Sparrow]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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What about [[get lost]] in this list?

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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So, one other question. [[Samwise Gamgee]] and [[Peregrin Took]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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How far back did they get cut?

fleet brook
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I never added these two to the decks

fleet brook
fleet brook
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probably do landfall/wheels slug?

supple scroll
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That’s 3 themes lol

fleet brook
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i mean.. in the sense of [[Polluted Bonds]] landfall slug is what i meant

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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not really landfall

night vale
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Part of what you're doing looks like the mana burn deck

fleet brook
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im just slapping stuff in the deck

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atm

night vale
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[[Adamaro]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Multiple cards match “Adamaro”, can you be more specific?

night vale
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[[Adamaro, first to]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
night vale
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[[Masumaro]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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[[Kagemaro]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Multiple cards match “Kagemaro”, can you be more specific?

night vale
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[[Kagemaro, first to suffer]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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I love that scryfall is struggling

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[[Masumaro, first to live]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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I love the Kamigawa stuff

night vale
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Kagemaro + [[Xira|DMU]] is at least rebuilding quickly

wooden schoonerBOT
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No card found named “Xira” in Dominaria United

night vale
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...

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[[Xira, the golden sting]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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thats gross.... At that point I'd just use new Xira as a commander XD

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anyway just adding stuff atm

supple scroll
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So there’s a lot of ways to take this deck

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[[dingus egg]]/[[Zozu the punisher]]

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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Then there’s [[Spiteful visions]] [[viseling]] [[Black vise]] [[Underworld dreams]]

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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[[iron maiden]]

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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And more generic ones like [[Sulfuric vortex]] [[Mogis god of slaughter]] and gang

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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Then you’ve got black drain via [[Keen Duelist]] [[Sanctum stone]] [[Creeping bloodsucker]]

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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And anything with extort works too

fleet brook
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lool

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Im working on stuff and adding things. afterwards stuff will need to be cut and trimmed

fleet brook
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probs needs more remova;

night vale
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I don't know that you play both Ivory Tower and Venser's Journal

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Ivory tower has too great of a chance of being a 1 mana artifact that does nothing.

fleet brook
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yeah. I just added it because it was mentioned but is not a card thats good in any shape or form

night vale
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My husband still runs it in his Archimandrite deck I think, but that's a flavor call

fleet brook
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makes sense. I swapped it for a signet

fleet brook
fleet brook
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Playtested more the Saheeli deck. It seems to want more low-drop stuff to get payoffs

night vale
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Yeah. Feldon and Jaxis help a lot, but they aren't perfect.

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The low-cost creatures help when you don't have them

fleet brook
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I will have to cut some of the creatures for better low-cost stuff. Idk yet

fleet brook
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Added more stuff to Sanwell. I want to add some more vehicles at least the best ones like Parhellion II

night vale
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Was thousand-moon in before?

fleet brook
# night vale Was thousand-moon in before?

Yeah. I got it monday. I have a few cards in the mail from the dr who commander deck. Cybermen Squadron, Cybermat and Cyberman Patrol for this deck. Just doing edits here and there. I just want parhellion for the angels it makes. But I’ll probably wait for the cards I ordered to come in to add em

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Also idk why i directly replied to you. 😑

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Theres also a few other things I want to add like [[Thopter Shop]] [[Cloud Key]] and maybe a Smothering Tithe.

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Ideally goal is just white value/timmy deck. No combos, no gimmicks.

fleet brook
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Played it today. Sanwell. It did alright. I guess it just doesn’t have that power to close games

night vale
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Sanwell is a commander that sort of feels like my Vendilion Clique deck

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Having to pay for the card you play feels bad in a similar way to how you can't apply the effect to all 3 opponents

fleet brook
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I may switch it later for Lita tbh

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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[[Lita Mechanical]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Artifact Creature — Artificer
Vigilance
At the beginning of your end step, untap each other artifact creature you control.
mana3manaw, manat: Create a 5/5 colorless Vehicle artifact token named Zeppelin with flying and crew 3. (It has "Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 3 or more: This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.")
3/3

fleet brook
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I got Lita will be swaping it to see how it works. I just like Sanwell for the Damn Value

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Accelerates my deck somewhat

night vale
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Wirewood Channeler is my first instinct so far

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Same mana, 4 mana is a lot for a 2/2 even if it makes other colors.

fleet brook
supple scroll
fleet brook
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Oh, I tried Lita as a commander for the Sanwell deck and it moved SO SLOWLY i had to put sanwell back on the command zone. I will need to add akroma’s memorial or something to close games though

dark vapor
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You could also run a lot of artifact synergy win cons and cards to make big plays, or historic synergy.

fleet brook
dark vapor
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Like [[Peri Brown]] or [[Tegan Jovanka]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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my thing is mostly closing games than anything else really. with sanwell I can keep my board in check. My thing with Peri Brown is that is only once. Tegan Jovanka is also one of those cards that is kinda eh since Sanwell protects itself well when he attacks with another artifact creature

dark vapor
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Fair enough.

night vale
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Oh, [[sword of paruns]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Equipped to sanwell

fleet brook
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figured

night vale
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He triggers when he becomes tapped

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So you could theoretically do it whenever as long as you have enough mana

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And it buffs all other creatures you control

fleet brook
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I need to add Springleaf Drum to his deck. its becoming hard to remove stuff to add stuff. I want to add more removal to the deck too.

night vale
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Hmm

fleet brook
fleet brook
night vale
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Thanks for the refresh!

fleet brook
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No probs. I would have reposted it if it was too far up the chain

night vale
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What about [[Reverent Hoplite]]?

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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It's an ETB and you don't have any doublers for that

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I know it's still a lot of tokens without that, but, it's the piece I see that is the most removable?

fleet brook
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I be honest and say sometimes the token generation can be a bit better in the deck. What do you think?

And reverent is a card i like and have thought about removing before so i think it may be time

night vale
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You're also relatively low devotion outside of one or two cards.

fleet brook
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Yeah. i can even probs remove Nykthos but I don’t play the deck often so I will need to pull it out for testing again

night vale
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Nykthos you can safely leave in I think.

fleet brook
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Ashnods and Cathar’s call are two calls I’ve been considering cutting and probs adding more removal

night vale
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I can see cutting Cathar's Call

fleet brook
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I also have all other Elesh Norns

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Unsure if to add the flip Norn

night vale
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I only see one norn in the list (cenobite)

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It would be adding another boardwipe basically.

fleet brook
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Yeah. Sorry. I meant I have them in the binder. I thought about adding ETB norn but makes sense to not add Flip Norn

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Anyway for now just cutting those two cards for o-Taq and Cathar's Call for Removal

night vale
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I hope it works!

fleet brook
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we'll see what happens

fleet brook
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needs refinement but eh

fleet brook
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Got [[Sally Sparrow]] [[Astrid Perth]] and [[Hargilde kindly]] for doctor deck but unsure if they would fit

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
night vale
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If you're sacrificing the tokens Astrid and Hargilde do

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I'm not sure about Sally

fleet brook
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I mostly wanted a way to get more tokens made and a way to investigate without sacrificing the mana.

fleet brook
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Mondrak needs more ways to generate tokens. Theres a few things I will need to remove from the deck in order to make it generate more tokens as Ideally I want to be making tokens each turn

night vale
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nod

fleet brook
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So... it feels like I've been Furious Alt-Tabing across projects last few weeks. My brain works like that.

night vale
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I hate that feeling

fleet brook
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im used to it. to the point that I actually need my brain to function like that to do my job

night vale
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I just thought about how silly the one ring could be in your drafna

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since you could bounce with the damage trigger on the stack

fleet brook
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yup I have thought about it several times already but I don't want to spend 70$ to make the game miserable XD

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Bounce back and then re-cast at instant speed every turn seems mean

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although very funny

night vale
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😆

fleet brook
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similar energy as nev disk with mycosynth and darksteel on board

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speaking of artifacts, I should give Glissa the Traitor some love at some point. She is lackluster compared to my other decks

night vale
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I've had that one happen against me in a game

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breya with a [[Mishra's Workshop]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
fleet brook
night vale
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Combination

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Darksteel/Disk/mycosynth

fleet brook
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0oh I was just wondering why Mishra's Workshop was mentioned.

night vale
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It was basically a "Super Boomer" deck

fleet brook
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oooo

night vale
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The person has changed it since then to being Alibou

fleet brook
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huh. boros is a color pie I have issues with

night vale
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Howso?

fleet brook
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it doesn;t click mentally?

night vale
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They realized they could use the workshop to pay for Alibou when Breya couldn't and then kill people with stuff like [[Grafted exoskeleton]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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[[Alibou]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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oh yeah that makes sense

night vale
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Somehow Boros does make sense to me, but mainly in the last few years.

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There have been a lot more Boros combo decks, even if people think they're all auras/equipment

fleet brook
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I am interseted in making Anim Pakal at some point. Just trying to taper off making new decks and just upgrade stuff that I have. henc why went abck to glissa

night vale
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nod

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I'm in a similar position

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I wanted to finish one of the Francisco deck options first.

fleet brook
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lete me know when you get games with it. I wanna know how it did.

night vale
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I did last night

fleet brook
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how'd it go>?

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if you did let me know i may have missed it

night vale
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I just put it in my deck building thread

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But summary, I was told if I finished tuning it it sounded terrifying in either version. Kediss or Breeches+Archeologist

fleet brook
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sounds like it was an exciting night

fleet brook
fleet brook
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but idk what else to change at this point.

night vale
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What about [[Grist]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Multiple cards match “Grist”, can you be more specific?

night vale
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[[Grist, the swarmlord]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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q345134514

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[[Grist|MH2]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Planeswalker — Grist
As long as Grist, the Hunger Tide isn't on the battlefield, it's a 1/1 Insect creature in addition to its other types.
+1: Create a 1/1 black and green Insect creature token, then mill a card. If an Insect card was milled this way, put a loyalty counter on Grist and repeat this process.
−2: You may sacrifice a creature. When you do, destroy target creature or planeswalker.
−5: Each opponent loses life equal to the number of creature cards in your graveyard.
Loyalty: 3

night vale
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brain

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[[Grafted Butcher]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Glissa's a phyrexian

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It plays right into that.

fleet brook
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yeah. My issue with glissa lately has been that somoen else wins before I manage to get anything done

night vale
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hmm

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So either you need to go faster or do the golgari "make things miserable"

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[[Keskitt]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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yeah. As I said, add more card draw and more, more efficeint tutors

supple scroll
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Golgari never makes ppl miserable wdym

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Golgari best colors

fleet brook
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XD

fleet brook
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Probably switch it to self mill and force sack effects?"

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probably play it more like [[Imotekh]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
supple scroll
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Just gotta play 2 for 1 creatures instead, ez

fleet brook
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i see that more in orzhov myself

night vale
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I love all 4 of the glissas

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When I play against orzhov I mainly find political or token decks

fleet brook
supple scroll
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The 3 mana new glissa has got to be one of my favorite creatures to come out for a while

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Mono green glissa goes crazy too

night vale
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[[Glissa Herald of Predation]] is just so weird though

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Zombie Elf
At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose one —
• Incubate 2 twice. (To incubate 2, create an Incubator token with two +1/+1 counters on it and "mana2: Transform this artifact." It transforms into a 0/0 Phyrexian artifact creature.)
• Transform all Incubator tokens you control.
• Phyrexians you control gain first strike and deathtouch until end of turn.
3/5

fleet brook
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anyway. I can rebuild glissa from the ground up, but i'd also like to keep the manabase at the very least

night vale
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That has to be reasonably easy

fleet brook
fleet brook
supple scroll
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I mean she’s pretty powerful on her own

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Just kind of a bomb that doesn’t get got most times

night vale
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I say weird because she easily pops out an army and you can just put in ramp and removal

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And usually that sort of thing is saved for mythics

supple scroll
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I love those kinds of decks lol, remove a very important essential to building a deck so you can fill the rest with even more of the other stuff

fleet brook
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guys i have a ton of projects, I dont need more 😅

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and i like all glissas so yeah

night vale
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I think most of your changes can be in your artifact section

supple scroll
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‘S how I built my tymna Malcolm deck, it has such a low curve that it removed the need for ramp so I added more removal 🙂

fleet brook
supple scroll
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Or [[Chulane]] needing very little draw

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
night vale
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And probably more [[Gravepact]] effects

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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I’ve been trying to find a Rock deck that I’m satisfied with.

fleet brook
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ovika doesnt dissappoint

supple scroll
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Currently I’m sitting on Kamahl/Ikra but I’m not entirely certain it’s what I should run

supple scroll
fleet brook
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figured haha

night vale
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[[Grismold]]

supple scroll
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[[Ovika]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Multiple cards match “Ovika”, can you be more specific?

night vale
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that's a good inclusion for glissa

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It gives things for your opponents to have

fleet brook
supple scroll
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Oh you’re talking for artifact glissa

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There’s also [[Akroan Horse]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
supple scroll
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Idk why I thought the discussion was [[Glissa sunslayer]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
night vale
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[[tarrian's soul cleaver]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Her damage starts to become an actual issue

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If you want

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I do see Thornbite in there

fleet brook
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ofc I want.

supple scroll
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That’s pretty cool

night vale
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for the usual interaction there

fleet brook
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i want to keep The Magic Conch Shell tho

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[[Conch Shell]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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Multiple cards match “Conch Shell”, can you be more specific?

supple scroll
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Vigilance first strike deathtouch is such a gross combo

fleet brook
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[[Conch Horn]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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I also have to make the argument for my best boy [[Sarinth Steelseeker]]]

wooden schoonerBOT
supple scroll
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I assume you’ve got [[Executioner’s Capsule]] in there?

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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yeah

fleet brook
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probably should add liberator to this too to be able to flash in stuff and all

night vale
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Maybe

fleet brook
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can probably try [[Attrition]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Do you have the various mana dorks that sacrifice artifacts to make mana?

fleet brook
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which ones are those?"

night vale
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[[Priest of Yawgmoth]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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oh that dude there is also [[Soldevi Adnate]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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That was just typing

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then the necron...

fleet brook
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id have to add more creatures to sack on my end which is fine.

night vale
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[[Ruthless technomancer]] sort of

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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[[Illuminor Szeras]]?

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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The priest is nice because it can do the [[Mycosynth wellspring]] etc

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
night vale
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it's not focused on just creatures

fleet brook
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yeah. true

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been also considering Phyrexian Altar and/or [[Carnage Altar]] and probably switching glissa more to an artifact creature based deck and keeping some of the utility cards

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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yeahp I will also need to add bombs to the deck. at least 1 or 2 big sticks and a spine of ish sah

fleet brook
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Also considering [[Thran Temporal Gateway]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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I'm not a fan of mechtitan core, but it's the sort of card i'm regularly wrong about

fleet brook
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Just trying to use some of my best vehicles. Considering removing Goliath Truck but not sure.

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Also thought about removing chromatic Orrery

night vale
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I can see that.

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Aethershield Artificer is snagging for me for some reason

fleet brook
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Only drawn it once and used it that game.

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Not married to it but unsure how pivotal i can be in a jiffy

night vale
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So, why aren't you playing some of the ETB vehicles

fleet brook
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I don’t run lots of flicker effects

night vale
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Do you have a copy of [[Mighty Servant of Leuk-O]]?

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Used to and got rid of him because I had no deck that could run him properly

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At the time

night vale
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mm

fleet brook
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Theres a lot I wanna do and not enough space 😅

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I have cards like Ribskiff and Reckoner’s Bankbuster and a few other artifacts

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Will try running it without Aethershield Artificer

night vale
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hmm

fleet brook
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Sorry. I tend to be rather intense at times

night vale
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I'm thinking

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You're not

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I've also got a sore leg and it'smaking me distracted

fleet brook
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Oh. Sorry. I sometimes feel like I can be a bit too much 😅

night vale
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I have opinions on different red commanders. It's the color I've expanded into the most over the last few years.

fleet brook
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Ive been leaning heavily on [[Maraxus of Kjeld]] to be my go to since it would be funny to play a swol dude with 99 basics /s

(I like the gimick though and plays into my artifact affinity as well)

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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For mono Red I've built: [[Captain Ripley Vance]] [[Torbran, thane of red fell]] and [[Farid|BRC]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Farid is very fun

fleet brook
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in got farid in the 99 of Flamewar

fleet brook
fleet brook
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FYI i don't plan to build this any time soon

fleet brook
night vale
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So the strategy I'm seeing feelss a little all over the place.

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Some of those are aggressive, some are control and some are go wide

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But in a way that feels like itnwould go really slowly

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[[Bess soul nourisher]]

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Legendary Creature — Human Citizen
Whenever one or more other creatures with base power and toughness 1/1 enter the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Bess, Soul Nourisher.
Whenever Bess attacks, each other creature you control with base power and toughness 1/1 gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of +1/+1 counters on Bess.
1/1

night vale
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Is probably one of the most emphatic suggestions I'd make even if it's partially a nonbo with sigarda's summons

fleet brook
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I’ve been teethering on cutting Sigarda’s Summons tbh

night vale
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[[Segovian Angel]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Sorry, trying to find a Fleshbag Marauder and Plaguecrafter for Bartolome

fleet brook
night vale
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I'm not fond of victories envoy

fleet brook
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How so?

night vale
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It's 5 mana, doesn't put a counter on itself and you need to untap with it.

fleet brook
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Mm yeah

night vale
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I'd think about whether you'd want to run [[spike feeder]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Or a cares about modified card

fleet brook
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I added the counter synnergy because a lot of the humans I added that were good also came sith counter stuff

fleet brook
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But in general I would prefer to go “fast and Hard”

night vale
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Spike Feeder with the Archangel of Thune is just "I would like the game to be over"

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[[Archangel of Thune]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Which is in the list already

dark vapor
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Well ideally I do think you should seek to have a complete and viable win condition in your deck given your commander is all about providing utility and card advantage. Also I'd probably cut Susan Foreman just because she herself isn't a Human. I'd also probably replace Sigarda's Summons with something that can give you draw and/or value like a [[Smuggler's Share]] or a [[Better Together]]

wooden schoonerBOT
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No card found for “Better Together”

dark vapor
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[[Together Forever]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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[[Susan Foreman]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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She could also just be an elf though

dark vapor
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True. Alternatively you could go Kutzil for some safety during your turns and a potential draw engine.

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And since you work with counters it'll be easy to trigger.

night vale
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Or [[Biophagus]] (though it's a lot more $)

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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[[$Biophagus]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
night vale
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Yeah

fleet brook
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I could add kutzil. I pulled one and idk where it is now that i think about it

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Im at the LGS so i may be offline for a while

fleet brook
wind swallow
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Looks solid. I don't think BoP is that good in here though given that it's mono color.

night vale
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You want a mana dork in it because of Omnath. I guess it could be most other things though.

wind swallow
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[[delighted halfling]] would have better milaghe

wooden schoonerBOT
wind swallow
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the flying blocker might work out tho i dunno

night vale
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That would have meant you'd need to keep track of casting restrictions for the mana.

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I'm surprised by the mana multipliers that are missing.

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like, Sakiko is there but not [[Mark of Sakiko]] or [[Tanuki Transplanter]]

wooden schoonerBOT
wind swallow
wind swallow
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Birds of Paradise

fleet brook
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Oh. I just used a ton of shit I had laying about. So i may be missing a ton of stuff

wind swallow
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tbh it's not bad, I suppose in the realm of like, 1 mv dorks in mono green there's not too much that's better

fleet brook
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I am literally playing and I only had my commander and 7 floating mana and they destroyed the commander and I’ve sat on the board doing nothing for the last 3 turns

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Its one of those decks I still havenmt been able to play and ejoy because all games end up like this

fleet brook
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Anyway now I need to figure out what to cut for Zendikar Resurgent, Heartbeat of Spring.

fleet brook
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I also probs beed to cut stuff to add more dorks

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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I gave up on making a mono-green deck. I realized I cannot, for the life of me, make it work. So I just broke it apart. Turned it into Meria, Scholar of Antiquity. I really wanted to make it work

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I also don’t believe this meria deck will work, so we’ll see. (Really frustrated still. Will try it Friday and then take a break from mtg)

night vale
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This has been my problem with mono green

fleet brook
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yeah. I considered doing Ojer Kaslem but I didn't want to invest in it. One Day I will find a mono-green commander I really like. Or make a dual colored commander who is just mono green deck

night vale
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[[Oviya]] and [[Reki, the History of Kamigawa]] are the closest I've gotten

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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I tried doing Oviya but, although it worked, it was slow AF

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I have a promo at home

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and I have Reki in the 99 of the Doctor deck

fleet brook
night vale
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I'd consider having [[Battered Golem]] on the list if you can get one. I'm seeing if I have any good suggestions for a cut though.

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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I just made it from the bones of the green deck and stuff I had laying about. Have not played it yet so idk how it will perform. Based it on the concept I had for Urza to wanting all my artifacts to just be mana rocks

dark vapor
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My Mono Green deck of choice is Gwenna.

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[[Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea]]

wooden schoonerBOT
dark vapor
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Fun way of trying to abuse her untapping clause, bringing out big beasties, and gaining big board presence and advantage.

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Hope you find one that works for you!

fleet brook
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Yeah I turned the deck into [[Meria, Scholar of Antiquity]] and it seems to work much better. Ugh. Can’t believe I can’t make a deck work without ample supply of artifacts.

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Anyway, I guess my goal now is to make an artifact deck in all colors :3

fleet brook
dark vapor
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Well there's a couple of useful Green artifacts.

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And you have some of em XD

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You could even try [[The Skullspore Nexus]]

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Legendary Artifact
This spell costs manax less to cast, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
Whenever one or more nontoken creatures you control die, create a green Fungus Dinosaur creature token with base power and toughness each equal to the total power of those creatures.
mana2, manat: Double target creature's power until end of turn.

fleet brook
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[[$Skullspore Nexus]]

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fleet brook
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It would just be hseful to double power and toughness. Idk if I want to add it

night vale
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What's your goal for the Meria deck

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Is it just functionality or a specific play pattern

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It looks like big mana card advantage

fleet brook
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Pretty much play a ton of cheap artifscts that feed into the degeneracy of big bois

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Standard gruul stuff

night vale
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If you have access to an Etali I would look at one of those

fleet brook
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New or old?

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I have old

night vale
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Either

fleet brook
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Okay… hmm.

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Ideally I want to start casting artifacts as soon as turn one

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Or t2

night vale
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mm

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[[retrofitter foundry]] maybe?

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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Hmm. Could work

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[[$Retrofitter Foundry]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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-_-

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I keep forgetting how much it is

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I got it for under $1

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Then Legacy went wild for it and it was like $60 something but settled back at 10

fleet brook
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I used to have one and traded it away.

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It was 30$ at one point but is easier to get one for 10$

night vale
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I still stand by [[Battered Golem]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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[[$battered golem]]

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fleet brook
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Yeah. Same function as Traxos I take it?

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I tried to see if there was a way to go infinite with [[reckless Fireweaver]] in this deck but came up with nothing.

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Meria combos

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So you can sort of build it with a whurza combo

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Where you pay for [[Animation Module]] by tapping the sword of the meek with Meria

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fleet brook
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I’ll check it in a bit. About to be busy for the next hour

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Would [[Animation Module]] [[Decoction Module]] [[Fabrication Module]] work in this deck with the Hammer of Purphoros on the board?

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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and, well, the arcbound ravager.

fleet brook
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i just remebered [[Doors of Durin]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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That's not a terrible card

fleet brook
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i'll check it in a bit. Also will have to get a Wurmcoil engine for this deck.

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Also got Jenny Flint and Madame Vastra to try and build later. They seem interesting.

fleet brook
night vale
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So, my doing that list isn't necessarily a suggestion but sort of how my brain visualized it

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So, I guess... a way of showing where my brain is to try and find the gaps to help you better.

fleet brook
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its fine. I do appreciate it 😆

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I do have a Reckless Handling and I want to put it in the current list but I am unsure as to what to cut for ti

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i forget how good comet storm is in meria

night vale
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Same with [[Howling Mine]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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Just have to make sure it's tapped before the next player's step

fleet brook
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i forgot about the untapped clause. I do have one at home somewhere

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i even considered running Blood Moon

night vale
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Mm

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For a while I looked at doing Meria stax

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Because, like Urza she has the ability so she gets around [[Collector Ouphe]]

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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indeed. I considered putting some stax pieces in there like [[Damping Sphere]] and [[Cursed totem]] as well as [[Torpor Orb]] but then decided against it

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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nod

fleet brook
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They're so minuscule when you look at them in a vacuum, then you play them and it shuts down half the board

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i have the same relationship with [[Ethersworn Canonist]] but im more liable to run her than the other cards i mentioned

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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I may add Halana and Alena though since I have one at home

night vale
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I asked the question in the rules forum about Alena because I was curious how much she'd make if Halana/Alena gave her +2/+2 and haste. Answer, she'd make 6 red mana.

fleet brook
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uhh her card alone right?

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I kinda want to add all three into this deck. Since i have all them

night vale
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Yeah

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As long as she has haste the turn she enters.

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But if you double the power of a creature, etc. All that counts too

fleet brook
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yeahp. But yah, Theres a few things i want to add to this. I did get all the Modules from Kaaldes/Aether Revolt today for this deck. Want to add A Wurmcoil Engine, also ordered Extruder and Doors of Durin. Will add The lesbian Couple to the deck when I get home. Dunno what I'll cut for them, but we'll see. I do want to keep Big Bad Wurm in there.

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Oh, Also sent the glissa deck for you to check out. Played it monday and it was all control during the game against a voltron deck and Lathril dekc

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Thunderhulk + Imotekh are major players in it

fleet brook
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Ordered [[Glissa Sunseeker||SLD]] I might try Mono-Green with it as my next go to a green deck. Also I think I will move Meria slowly to a combo gruul deck. Not all at once but its tge end goal

wooden schoonerBOT
fleet brook
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List of Decks i need to Upgrade/Optimize in the near future:
1- Sanwell, Avenger Ace
2- Hakbal of the Surging Soul
3- Ovika, Enigma Goliath
4- Rith, the Awakener
5- Saskia the Unyielding (needs to be Optimized and streamlined)
6- Urtet, Remnant of Memnarch (Needs a full Overhaul)
7- Trostani, Selesnya's Voice (Needs to be Optimized)
8- Sigarda, Font of Blessings (Probably remake from the ground up with the same idea)
9- Meria, Scholar of Antiquity (Needs to just be figured out and optimized)
10- Brimaz, Blight of Oreskos (Rebuild as artifa-ristocrats instead of phyrexian focused. Will, ofc add some phyrexians, but mainly artifacts in Orzhov)

dark vapor
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Looks like a great list.

fleet brook
fleet brook
night vale
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I see 2 things I could argue for cutting

fleet brook
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???

night vale
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[[Skorpekh Lord]] and [[Phyrexian vindicator]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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It says you're at 103 cards

fleet brook
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oh yeah. that I knew. I was just waiting on the two cards 😅

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why lord tho?

night vale
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It's a card that feels fine?

fleet brook
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mm makes sense

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i just added some stuff from the old list to this

night vale
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It's probably better than I'm thinking

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But, the other, you don't care about devotion and it doesn't really die

fleet brook
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yeah i cut it. Mostly added it because it was phyrexian.

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i forgot to add psychomancer

fleet brook
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@night vale any idea for a stax deck that has access to white and Temur? Idk. Just trying to have access to Meria and Urza to tap the artifacts.

night vale
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Hmm

fleet brook
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I want more azorius colors tbh

night vale
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Bruse/Thrasios?

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There has to be one you could do with [[the fourteenth doctor]] too

wooden schoonerBOT
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Legendary Creature — Time Lord Doctor
When you cast this spell, reveal the top fourteen cards of your library. Put all Doctor cards revealed this way into your graveyard and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
You may have The Fourteenth Doctor enter the battlefield as a copy of a Doctor card in your graveyard that was put there from your library this turn. If you do, it gains haste until end of turn.
3/4

night vale
fleet brook
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Huh. Elmar seems interesting tbh

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I already have Hargilde

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I wanna make it challenging to play against but not impossible

night vale
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4c Aragorn is sort of a good-stuff shell and can be whatever you want

fleet brook
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Yeah. I mean, as I said, I can go down to just Azorius

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Mainly want white in it and access to blue and such

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I’ll look around

night vale
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Yeah

fleet brook
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I was considering Meria Stax or Urza Stax but then realized “white has the best stax pieces”

night vale
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Yeah

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The nice thing about bruse/thrasios is Bruse's fists and Thrasios' ability help make some stax asymmetrical

fleet brook
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🤔

night vale
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Elmar/Hargilde are more directly connected to artifacts though

fleet brook
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Yeah. I also though about Jenny Flint+Madame Vastra

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But then. No access to white

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I’ll try Elmar since is cheaper to get Elmar

night vale
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I had looked at doing an Urtet along these lines though

fleet brook
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Really!?

night vale
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Using various artificers etc. And few actual myr

fleet brook
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I guess I have a way to re-do urtet. Though idk how effective it would be. Keeping it focused would be best tho

night vale
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I'm waiting for pain meds to kick in. I'm going to try to put it together quickly because I don't have it in moxfield

fleet brook
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We can talk about it tomorrow. I’m jaut trying to cook something to counter Rose Tyler deck of a friend of mine. And he’s looking forward to it too.

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Chulane Stax?

night vale
dark vapor
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[[Solemnity]]

wooden schoonerBOT
dark vapor
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This would probably help you a lot as a straight counter to Rose Tyler.

fleet brook
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I’ve been meaning to make a staxy deck for a bit anyway. So this is a way to just straight up start the process. I want access to white because it has a lot of the best stax pieces. I may make it either mono-white or azorius

fleet brook
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I think Meria is getting the dtax treatment

night vale
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She has some things that really help facilitate that

fleet brook
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I added some changes to her already

night vale
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Maybe Bootlegger's?

fleet brook
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I would say yes but it went crazy with Academy Manufactor on friday

fleet brook
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Im@a swap em out and see whay works best. I still would like to keep Bootleggers Stash because I want to run it somewhere

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Also been thinking about Jodah unifier and slapping all the crappy legends in it that I’m not using anywhere else. (I write here a lot but is also a way to get thoughts outta mah head)

fleet brook
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So, I need an additional Win Con I can go for in with this deck so I don't feel as Glass Cannon-y with it.

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I've been thinking about removing Mocking Sprite from the deck too

night vale
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is the only one aetherflux reservoir?

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[[Grapeshot]] [[Impending Fluxx]]

wooden schoonerBOT
night vale
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If you have Emry and a 0 mana self-sacrificing artifact with Jeskai Ascendancy out that works too

fleet brook