Might As well start with this decklist. Since I really want to make it work. So far considering Coffin Queen, Teysa, Orzhov Scion and Elenda's Heirophant and Tormod the Desecrator
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[[Liliana's Standard Bearer]]
do you have budget restraints?
the main issue is card draw and bodies lately
instead of Reassembling Skeleton i would go Relentless dead
Creature — Zombie
Menace (This creature can't be blocked except by two or more creatures.)
When Relentless Dead dies, you may pay
. If you do, return it to its owner's hand.
When Relentless Dead dies, you may pay
. If you do, return another target Zombie creature card with mana value X from your graveyard to the battlefield.
2/2
[[Ayara, First of Locthwain]] is good draw
Legendary Creature — Elf Noble
Whenever Ayara, First of Locthwain or another black creature enters the battlefield under your control, each opponent loses 1 life and you gain 1 life.
, Sacrifice another black creature: Draw a card.
Mourning shifts seamlessly to celebration as she chooses her next suitor.
2/3
and if you consider going down in cmc a bit you can include a [[Lurrus]] + [[Animate Dead]] + [[Dance of the Dead]] package
Legendary Creature — Cat Nightmare
Companion — Each permanent card in your starting deck has mana value 2 or less. (If this card is your chosen companion, you may put it into your hand from outside the game for
as a sorcery.)
Lifelink
Once during each of your turns, you may cast a permanent spell with mana value 2 or less from your graveyard.
3/2
Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature card in a graveyard
When Animate Dead enters the battlefield, if it's on the battlefield, it loses "enchant creature card in a graveyard" and gains "enchant creature put onto the battlefield with Animate Dead." Return enchanted creature card to the battlefield under your control and attach Animate Dead to it. When Animate Dead leaves the battlefield, that creature's controller sacrifices it.
Enchanted creature gets -1/-0.
Enchantment — Aura
Enchant creature card in a graveyard
When Dance of the Dead enters the battlefield, if it's on the battlefield, it loses "enchant creature card in a graveyard" and gains "enchant creature put onto the battlefield with Dance of the Dead." Put enchanted creature card onto the battlefield tapped under your control and attach Dance of the Dead to it. When Dance of the Dead leaves the battlefield, that creature's controller sacrifices it.
Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and doesn't untap during its controller's untap step.
At the beginning of the upkeep of enchanted creature's controller, that player may pay 
. If the player does, untap that creature.
Teysa Orzhov Scion you mentioned is in your consideration, i really do like her as a card in arristocrats
she worked good for me so far
also instead of something like Syr Konrad i would prioritise a Meathook Masacre
never owned a meathook so hence why
my Lurrus arristocrats if you wanna take a look
thats fair, its also really expensive
I'll probably add Orzhov Scion and CVoffin Queen since I have both in my binder. just dunno what to cut
i have 6 CMC Athreos at home but i find it too slow for my liking
i may have that erebos, I will have to check
just need cutable stuff.
Priest of the forgotten gods will be cut
cuttable stuff is imo:
Clockwork Fox - you go down in cards compared to the table
Secure the Wastes - you dont really need pure token makers
Call the Coppercoats - see above
Oketra's Monument - Not enough white imo
Welcoming Vampire - you have better carddraw options
Darksteel Ingot - a Jet Medallion would be better
Oketra's Monument is not really there for the cost reduction, its there for the free bdoies
yeah, so I will do some changes here and there and see how it goes in the long term.
thanks for the help and I did look at your deck.
np
Would Ravos Soultender work in this deck?
not a fan of upkeep triggers for recoursion
Makes sense. I just have one and a tymna in my binders and idk what to do with em
Played the deck again today. Its… hit and miss. I will need lifegain to offset the lifeloss for otger effects.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/S1fGu2dq0k-opZS85JKyvw
Doctor Blast from the Past that needs some flying upgrades
@stark hedge
\o/
It could use a better name. Also during the game, of the upgrades, only saw Greaves and Reliquary Tower.
Thinking on getting an Old Gnawbones. But mostly want to focus on clues
Done
\o/
The second BftP deck I’ll make it with Alistair at the helm. He’s a beast
As for upgrades to deal with flyers…
big dino?(big dino)
mmm. how 'on theme' of doctor whoy stuff with dinosaurs do you want, instead of 'fantasy adventuring party'
Most creature upgrades I did were hoomans.
[[vivien reid]] would... theoretically work... but that might be a little out there
Legendary Planeswalker — Vivien
+1: Look at the top four cards of your library. You may reveal a creature or land card from among them and put it into your hand. Put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
−3: Destroy target artifact, enchantment, or creature with flying.
−8: You get an emblem with "Creatures you control get +2/+2 and have vigilance, trample, and indestructible."
Loyalty: 5
And I’m thinking on cutting perri Brown and romana II
Meh. Vivien is a card I rarely find a slot for
Semi expensive at 6, but ticks the historic permanents checkbox. The Fourth Doctor also is perfectly enough to crew it, and between your commander and a vehicle you would likely want to lose the vehicle.
Im honestly cutting some of the doctors and probably TARDIS.
It does look neat too the cybership
I'd probably leave the tardis in a sideboard at least if you ever play planechase.
This is a one time effect, but the card art looks cool i literally have no clue what WHO moment it represents tho and it's effect should be quite useful.
ok honestly this must be included at all costs I think because it fits like everything your deck does
I should add Chulane to the 99 at this rate
honestly like that is a ton of stuff for scooby snax
Chulane? Mainly saying it because of the bounce ability
horse(horse)
Hmmm. Chulane is at 5 mana. I don't think that's good just for the bounce ability.
[[Chulane, Teller]]
Hmm. Also gives me card draw. I forgot about that
Suuuuuuuure…? Why not more card draw?
[[kefnet the mindful]] ....fits the role of a blocker? 
(also card draw)
(also it is cheaepr than chulane, if a possibly annoying restriction)
doesn't bounce tho
I have a Chulane already is why I suggested it
For bounce and card draw, this is oddly still who themed.
Imma go through my stuff tomorrow and see what I can do. I need to sleep now
yeee night
Thnx tho
oh
also that's an anti wipe card
(er antisweeper)
(honestly that card is neat I need to remember it more it's such a neat effect for 4 mana)
It's also good for rebuying etbs/casts and resetting some mana rocks
yeah. Need to solve the flying issue first too. once thats done, move on to fiddling with the instants and sorceries. IDK where i want tot ake this deck to yet, and Im ok with taking my time
You go to sleep. The one question is whether the intention is to keep it all classic Doctors
im at work now. and no
OK
i did sleep tho
[[The thirteenth doctor]] could add a lot.
Just as a backup to 5
I love 2 and Benton but I don't know how much group hug you want.
If you're looking for cuts to add Chulane
i was keeping both the second doc and brenton. the second doc for the time being. brenton I can use him as a politics thing
[[Abzan falconer]] and [[skatewing spy]] help on flying a little
i dont have a lot of +1 counter synnergy tho
OK. I was explaining where my brain was going that would add it to help with flying
But I get where you're going.
yeah. Trying to keep to the historic side of things but I may have to add stuff like Urza and artifact flyers to make more use of the clues and foods and treasures
Probably a Jaheira too
just realized I can put Lonis in this deck too OMG
i mean hey you want a weird flex pick that will make people really angry out of nowhere :v
(ok you have white there are better removal choices)
this is expensive but also like... lol
[[$Wonder]] is less expensive
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[[Wonder]]
But it doesn't remove flying from your opponent's creatures
yeah archetype of imagination is also just a win con on it's own
i mean it's a flyer
and synergy
i do have archetype of imagination
dungeons might have anti flying tech
iunno
HONK. HONKHONKHONK

(that scales decently well, makes more historic, flying, AND cheap draw trigger)
[[Samwise Gamgee]]
Legendary Creature — Halfling Peasant
Whenever another nontoken creature enters the battlefield under your control, create a Food token. (It's an artifact with "
,
, Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life.")
Sacrifice three Foods: Return target historic card from your graveyard to your hand. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
2/2
This is kind of expensive but also a legendary artifact and uh. looks cool. I guess?
[[Jaheira]]
Multiple cards match “Jaheira”, can you be more specific?
[[Jaheira, friend of]]
Honestly this card is just hilarious.
also part of the reserved list but fairly cheap, hum
damn thought about gemrazer but that doesn't work for human decks
even if time lords can be mutated which is kinda hilarious
[[wilson, refined grizzly]] is just a massive beatstick I guess that just has a bunch of nice things. also funny
[[halana, kessig ranger]] is both a cheapish 3/4 with reach but ALSO gives a repeatable ETB fight effect
[[toxicrene]] is 4 toughness with deathtouch and reach, 4 mana, aaaand it's land hate. Kinda. weird land hate
...but you're probably using your land abilities so eh.
Yes!!!
honk
This needs a vehicle version
[[webspinner cuff]] is just uh. Cool. I guess. like it's a 1/4 for 3 with reach, but also can give an equipped creature reach. neat
Will run this jut for the WTF faced
amongus 
ok [[consulate skygate]] is just kind of a boring 2 cost wall but worth mentioning cause historic
It triggers stuff which matters for the bottom line
dinosaurs should be historic why aren't they historic :c
Need to do changed slowly but Will def get Honkdra
it does MULTIPLE THINGS
Indeed
[[brago, king eternal]] flickers which you may want
Commanders only trigger once per turn.
I make a ton of clues. Not that many foods. I can use this tho
Considered it tbh
[[nautiloid ship]] is out of color opponent reanimate AND a 5/5 flyer
also graveyard hate
[[reidane, god of the worthy]] has vigilance too aaaand it'll probably make the entire pod hate you but hey. :p
Legendary Creature — God
Flying, vigilance
Snow lands your opponents control enter the battlefield tapped.
Noncreature spells your opponents cast with mana value 4 or greater cost
more to cast.
2/3
Valkmira, Protector's Shield 

Legendary Artifact
If a source an opponent controls would deal damage to you or a permanent you control, prevent 1 of that damage.
Whenever you or another permanent you control becomes the target of a spell or ability an opponent controls, counter that spell or ability unless its controller pays
.
[[gluntch, the bestower]] funni blocker for 3 mana
sorry but I have to mention [[gold-forged thopteryx]] for just being 2 mana and INCREDIBLY. AWESOME.
[[cephalopod sentry]] is historic, and 4 mana for uh... a lot of power possibly.
Cephalopod Sentry <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manaw:1007102126813610074><:manau:292901508754702338>
Artifact Creature — Phyrexian Squid
Flying
Cephalopod Sentry's power is equal to the number of artifacts you control.
Silent observers swim through the air of Norn's Seedcore, watching the nascent Invasion Tree for any signs of interference.
*/5
Cheap flying lifelinkers will always have my heart
I need to slot it in
Toxril+Kormus Bell+[[Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth]]
Do you want to make it impossible for your opponents to play lands?
Lol I won’t make Toxriil until I figure out Bartolome and The Doctor deck
Good plan
Also I don’t think I’ll be that level of mean. I’d probably side-board it but not run it in the main deck
I have to admit I did win yesterday with Bartolome by casting Gary. Sacking all to my commander with a Blood Artist on board and then Living Death
I added more cards to the deck. Idk what to cut to add for Teshar or Cephalopod Sentry
Been also considering adding Tireless Tracker / Tireless Provisioner / Bootlegger’s Stash
Well added the provisioner but idk if it’ll work
Started working on [[Saheeli, the Sun’s Brilliance]]
Legendary Creature — Human Artificer

,
: Create a token that's a copy of another target creature or artifact you control, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. It gains haste. Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.
What began as a single gift for Huatli became a battalion of automatons unlike anything ever seen on Ixalan.
2/2
I'm trying to figure out this saheeli
I guess it's because she's (sensibly) mana throttled so my brain isn't there yet.
My idea behind commanders like this is play with the ability through other sources
So just good etbs?
I guess? I just started brewing so it’ll be a couple of hours before I post a list here. (Or at least 1 hour)
My goal is to try and make it more timmy oriented so things like Mirrorworks and Drafna will be in the 99 but a lot of rocks will be needed aslo
This is what I have so far @night vale
Just realized Saheeli also can duplicate creatures that are not artifacts. So good death triggers and etbs will be good for this deck
Yea, basically just a fair izzet Kiki-Jiki
Here’s my Kiki for reference
indeed
idk why i like this saheeli a lot
I can probably make a cheaper version with the stuff I have at home, but the list will look completely different that this. Though I would like help refining it. Since it seems like an interesting concept and I would have a place to slot in Jaxis and other cards I have but don't get to play often
like Clockwork Fox and Filigree Familiar, so on and so forth. Im trying to stay away from my regular crutch combos and try something new with artifacts too
this saheeli's is the -2 ability of
[[Saheeli Rai]] except its sacrificed instead of exiled
Legendary Planeswalker — Saheeli
+1: Scry 1. Saheeli Rai deals 1 damage to each opponent.
−2: Create a token that's a copy of target artifact or creature you control, except it's an artifact in addition to its other types. That token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
−7: Search your library for up to three artifact cards with different names, put them onto the battlefield, then shuffle.
Loyalty: 3
Huh... my brain just thought of the old inalla wanderwine combo
[[Inalla]] [[wanderwine prophet]]
Legendary Creature — Human Wizard
Eminence — Whenever another nontoken Wizard enters the battlefield under your control, if Inalla, Archmage Ritualist is in the command zone or on the battlefield, you may pay
. If you do, create a token that's a copy of that Wizard. The token gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step.
Tap five untapped Wizards you control: Target player loses 7 life.
4/5
Creature — Merfolk Wizard
Champion a Merfolk (When this enters the battlefield, sacrifice it unless you exile another Merfolk you control. When this leaves the battlefield, that card returns to the battlefield.)
Whenever Wanderwine Prophets deals combat damage to a player, you may sacrifice a Merfolk. If you do, take an extra turn after this one.
4/4
oh I see how this would work. damn thats cheeky
ETB trigger, copy the creature, with champion trigger on the stack?, Copy does etb trigger, champion wanderwine prophets then take an extra turn after combat?
Yeah, or even just be able to feldon it from the GY onto a different merfolk like Emri or Dalakos
seems neat but almost like a home streach to pull off.
there is a card out there that reduces activated abilites of colored mana of something right?
Definitely colorless reduction
Glad to see you making this Saheeli! I think she's been a tad underrated so far. Especially given she's very cheap.
Yeah. Which won’t work much for this list (will hVe to go through it again) but even then, i know in the last few years at least 1-3 cards were printed for colored mana reduction for some stuff. Probably it’s clerics. In which case, nvmd
so now the deck needs cuts before I move on to goldfish this thing.
here is the list again. Just need to cut stuff to make the deck finalized. Since i still need to add the basic lands
So, I did a sealed game and I got a copy of her. I hadn't thought about, since they're both delayed sacrifice triggers, you can activate her or Feldon in the end step of the opponent before you.
And have an extra copy in your turn.
so thats how it works?
i always get confused with "At the beginning of the next endstep" effects because there are two versions
I won a game because I was able to have 3 [[Panicked altisaurs]]
I thought it was worth telling you because it might adjust what you're doing
i mean, yeah it can. I just need to cut cards before we go on to goldfishing
idk what to cut and I need extra eyes
I'm looking now. Sorry, sick today.
I'm thinking about the enigma jewel here
You have 18 activated abilities including mana abilities
I think that's not counting timestream navigators ability
Hey sorry to hear that. Its fine.
Hmm... so I'm thinking about this' with the sundial. How much do you want to see that effect?
Is it a "I'm happy to draw into it" "I really would like to see it most games" or "It's a priority"
Because with the # of copy effects that are "at the beginning of the next end step" creatures you have I might put it as a priority card
But yeah, it would be good to have acess to it often as i would be able to keep stff but would die on next end step
?
If you use it with the trigger on the stack they stay around
And it never triggers again
They just stay
Oh okay.
Most of my brain was “red’s version of value and instant gratification vs delayed gratification”
[[Delina]]'s trigger just gets pushed back.
Legendary Creature — Elf Shaman
Whenever Delina, Wild Mage attacks, choose target creature you control, then roll a d20.
1—14 | Create a tapped and attacking token that's a copy of that creature, except it's not legendary and it has "At end of combat, exile this creature."
15—20 | Create one of those tokens. You may roll again.
3/2
To the next combat correct? (Sorry, this is the part of magic ive yet to understand/master)
Yes, it would get exiled at the end of the next combat (player after you)
Feldon and the others are a delayed trigger but Delina's is on the token
i see.
yeah, it would make sense to want to keep them around every now and again, depending on what token is being made. For example, a Cityscape Leveler I would rather keep, but something like Clockwork Fox for example, I would want the trigger to resolve so I can bank on the death trigger.
Yeah
Hmm. I was considering cutting the sundial today but it makes sense to keep it.
It may not be the sort of deck you want though, that's why I was wondering
oh. Hmm
yeah. As i said, reds version of value now, worry about it later style is what I was thinking off.
so the clock coming off.. yeah. I see it. Unless I pack the deck with things that does the same thing it wont matter much in the end.
ALL THE VALUE!
So this is a stab took at cutting with that decision. I added 2 cards.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/WTzn4AINf0erXyQEQpmilQ
[[Twinshot sniper]] [[combustible gearhulk]]
The sideboard are the cuts
surprised you cut terror of the peaks but makes sense
That was a hard cut. The "least sure about" one
The "I'm at 101 and don't want to cut a land"
It's a great card. I put it back in because it did hurt to cut it. I put it back and is sitting at 101. Hopefully it's helpful?
lol its fine. Im doing edits using your version as template because I was at that point where "Well,yeah, I cant do anythinf else"
I'm on my phone so putting the suggestion in a decklist and sending it is easiest
I also tend to run low on lands at 34 bieng the lowest I would run a deck in
its fine. I tend to do discord 99% on phone
also, intruder alarm, both mana dork myrs and Saheeli go infinite
Again, the other cut I didn't love but it felt like it went with cutting the sundial?
tbh i dont really cared much for sundial. I did add the Intruder alarm with that combo in mind
So if you want it, can put it back in
That's still a better point than needing to cut 13
plus Twinshot Sniper it would be lethal
What about [[extravagant replication]] as a cut
i did consider cutting it. I will add terror for it
6 mana and needing to untap with it is a lot slower than the rest
yeah.
i think the list is ready. just need to grab the bulk I have and buy the stuff I dont own and see where it goes. I will probs bring this decklist back up in about 2 weeks or so since is the mailing time it takes me to get stuff through tcg
Managed to get the Merfolk, Vampire and The Grixis Doctor Who decks today. The doctor who one looks amaze
Deck list for Atraxa. Not really gonna work on it now what with all other projects I have (and desire to make saheeli) but at least want to start planning
I'm not a fan of [[Ayara's Oathsworn]]. Maybe it's just me but I want my creatures to get bigger
As much as [[Arcus Acolyte]] sounds good, I'm not sure she does all that much considering your stuff should get counters on its own
Also, out with Conclave Sledge-Captain, in with [[Necropolis Regent]]
I don't really know how to evaluate the [[Duskshell crawler]] effects, they've alwys seemed exceedingly meh to me
Having trample on everything is fire. Playing saskia trample themed showed me how valuable it is. Also, i haven’t played this deck in almost 6 months, so I don’t remember much from it how it plays
Lol
Just getting more ways to get stuff bigger I guess but yeah. Talk later. Brain not working atm.
Goldfishing Saheeli and I managed to get Saheeli to get crazy on turn 5 with a dockside and Pemmin's Aura and Battlemage's Bracers. Drew into a Cybermen Squadron and swung 6 copies of Dockside for a total of 90 treasures on myriad
(Asuming there are 5 targets on board from the other 3 players for dockside if I know my pod well enough)
though I realized I need more card draw.
So I’ve heavily updated this deck now and I feel like I need a way to win now.
[[Curiosity Crafter]] and other coastal piract effects?
Wincons other than the Brigadier or the dinosaurs?
Yeah. I’ve considered putting the brigadier as the commander as I rarely draw him. That or put in a combo as a bacmup
Idk. I do draw but clues are so mana intensive I’ve figured I need more constant draws than clues. Hmm.
Maybe the historic coastal piracy effects? We're somehow at 3 now
[[Toski]], [[bidet of thassaa]] and [[the indomitable]]
Huh... I hadn't noticed bident was a may
[[Reconnaissance Mission]]
Yeah, the reason I chose the 3 I did is because they're all legendary
I know. Just the one that came to mind.
I may try the bridagier as a commander for a bit and see what happens.
That or the “we all draw” sergeant with haste and trample. Add overrun effects and such too
Random trivia. The actor who played Sgt. Benton first appeared as a Cyberman in the same story the character was introduced because the original actor was fired before he turned up on screen.
Huh. Thats rather neat. I did play the Villans Dr Who deck yesterday and it was interesting, davros is an interesting commander and I love how it works. Missy and Him. Both are good and is hard to choose who will be at the helm, but Davros gives potential card draw and that tends to win more in my@book
Pulling out stuff from storage to see how to upgrade. This is one of those
I built Missy as a deck. She's interesting but I need to spend some more time refining it.
The one I keep thinking about doing is [[The Cult of Skaro]]
Just because it's sort of a weird yolo card where all the options are good.
I just feel they aren't reliable enough
Just adding new cards?
They aren't, that's the point.
I thought about it but I don’t like how dependent is of the attack trigger
Yeah but that makes building a deck around them kinda unfun imo
I play the deck but I guess idk how to play urtet. Tbh played it twice, both times I was bombarded with boardwipes and removal as soon as a single creature hit the board so it got shelved
Ah, the sliver problem
This was early in Urtet debut and no one in my LGS played it.
I think it was mostly because everyone else was a problem and aristocrat issues. Its been so long I forget why.
Ahh. That happened with my Ashnod (B) deck the last time I played it. The Grenzo player was constantly trying to reset the board of an Okaun/Zndrsplt with goblin chainwhirler and I just couldn't play any creatures.
Bringing it to the lgs today to see how it wrks but i also know it could use more support cards. Myrs have been my tribe since mirrodin days when I got introduced to MTG for the first time
I remember how excited I was when they made the Myr deck.
I mostly played other people’s decks. I was in 7th grade and tried to make heads of it but i was too young to understand how complex the game was. This was from mirrodin->kamigawa. Hence why both sets are my favs planes
I do have to say that when Urtet was spoiled, I was beside myself in excitement. “Finally! A Myr Commander!”
Oh, also yesterday finally decided and found a commander/inspiration to make a mono-white artifact deck. I don’t have an online list yet since theres quite a few things I need to get first, but yeah. Decided on using [[Sanwell Avenger Ace]] for now but will probs switch it to [[Lita]] later on
Legendary Creature — Human Pilot
As long as an artifact creature you control is attacking, prevent all damage that would be dealt to Sanwell, Avenger Ace.
Whenever Sanwell becomes tapped, exile the top six cards of your library. You may cast a Vehicle or artifact creature spell from among them. Then put the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
3/1
Multiple cards match “Lita”, can you be more specific?
I’d also put up [[Teshar apostle]] for mono white artifacts
Its in the 99 of the deck. Its been a thing I’ve wanted to do for the longest time mostly to have an excuse to run every mono-white card that made karnstructs and now to also run Thousand Moons Smithy.
There’s also [[Losheel]]
Also in the 99 XD
Also ordered White Tendershoot Dryad [[Illustrous Waderglyph]] and [[Threefold Thunderhulk]] i forgot to get a Liberator though. Probs next purchase.
Artifact Creature — Golem
Ascend (If you control ten or more permanents, you get the city's blessing for the rest of the game.)
Other artifact creatures you control get +2/+2 as long as you have the city's blessing.
At the beginning of each upkeep, create a 1/1 colorless Gnome artifact creature token.
2/2
Artifact Creature — Gnome
Threefold Thunderhulk enters the battlefield with three +1/+1 counters on it.
Whenever Threefold Thunderhulk enters the battlefield or attacks, create a number of 1/1 colorless Gnome artifact creature tokens equal to its power.
, Sacrifice another artifact: Put a +1/+1 counter on Threefold Thunderhulk.
0/0
For the deck also got Clockwork Droid, Cybermen Squadron, Cybermat, Cyberman Patrol, Cybership (gives me more artifact creatures) and Midnight Crusader Shuttle.
Updated Dr Who deck
I managed to use Tamiyo’s Journal yesterday and tutored three cards out of it during the game. Realized I need more answers to stuff? Idk. At this point im like “this is fixed but now this needs an answer.” I won’t do any major updates for now.
I wonder if the erdwal illuminator could be traded out for one
I have a [[Counterflux]] from my defunct Adrix and Nev deck I wanted to add. Also will probs cut Noble Heritage but it helps with politics and sensing the pulse of who sees you as a threat
That seems like a reach unless you're running mana doublers or a lot of fixing.
or something that lets you spend mana as though it was any color
At least 2 double pips in a 3 color deck.
Yeahp. I don’t have… nvmd. I do habe simic decks. The precon.
I may just add instant more spot removal. 4 pieces is too low for my liking 😅
I agree with you
Ordered [[Astrid Perth]] for it and [[Sally Sparrow]]
Legendary Creature — Human
Whenever Astrid Peth enters the battlefield or attacks, create a Food token.
Brand-new Sky — Whenever you sacrifice a Clue or Food, Astrid Peth explores. (Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card into your hand if it's a land. Otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, then put the card back or put it into your graveyard.)
2/2
Legendary Creature — Human Detective
You may cast creature spells as though they had flash.
Whenever one or more other creatures you control leave the battlefield, investigate. This ability triggers only once each turn. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with "
, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
2/3
What about [[get lost]] in this list?
So, one other question. [[Samwise Gamgee]] and [[Peregrin Took]]
Legendary Creature — Halfling Peasant
Whenever another nontoken creature enters the battlefield under your control, create a Food token. (It's an artifact with "
,
, Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life.")
Sacrifice three Foods: Return target historic card from your graveyard to your hand. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
2/2
Legendary Creature — Halfling Citizen
If one or more tokens would be created under your control, those tokens plus an additional Food token are created instead. (It's an artifact with "
,
, Sacrifice this artifact: You gain 3 life.")
Sacrifice three Foods: Draw a card.
"Sam! Get breakfast ready for half-past nine!"
2/3
How far back did they get cut?
I never added these two to the decks
still don't own one but deffintively need to get some.
@supple scroll @night vale this is the list for that Xiria Arien list we were talking about. I figured I'd get it started...? https://www.moxfield.com/decks/CsePraO4QE2RNwFy6P3awA
probably do landfall/wheels slug?
That’s 3 themes lol
i mean.. in the sense of [[Polluted Bonds]] landfall slug is what i meant
not really landfall
Part of what you're doing looks like the mana burn deck
[[Adamaro]]
Multiple cards match “Adamaro”, can you be more specific?
[[Adamaro, first to]]
Love this suggestion
[[Masumaro]]
[[Kagemaro]]
Multiple cards match “Kagemaro”, can you be more specific?
[[Kagemaro, first to suffer]]
I love the Kamigawa stuff
Kagemaro + [[Xira|DMU]] is at least rebuilding quickly
No card found named “Xira” in Dominaria United
thats gross.... At that point I'd just use new Xira as a commander XD
anyway just adding stuff atm
Zo-Zu the Punisher <:mana1:292901508373282827><:manar:292901508796645397><:manar:292901508796645397>
Legendary Creature — Goblin Warrior
Whenever a land enters the battlefield, Zo-Zu the Punisher deals 2 damage to that land's controller.
He does not tolerate intruders.
2/2
Then there’s [[Spiteful visions]] [[viseling]] [[Black vise]] [[Underworld dreams]]
Spiteful Visions <:mana2:292901509060886528><:manabr:292901508939382784><:manabr:292901508939382784>
Enchantment
At the beginning of each player's draw step, that player draws an additional card.
Whenever a player draws a card, Spiteful Visions deals 1 damage to that player.
Knowledge brings the sting of disillusionment, but the pain teaches perspective.
[[iron maiden]]
And more generic ones like [[Sulfuric vortex]] [[Mogis god of slaughter]] and gang
Then you’ve got black drain via [[Keen Duelist]] [[Sanctum stone]] [[Creeping bloodsucker]]
And anything with extort works too
lool
Im working on stuff and adding things. afterwards stuff will need to be cut and trimmed
probs needs more remova;
I don't know that you play both Ivory Tower and Venser's Journal
Ivory tower has too great of a chance of being a 1 mana artifact that does nothing.
yeah. I just added it because it was mentioned but is not a card thats good in any shape or form
My husband still runs it in his Archimandrite deck I think, but that's a flavor call
makes sense. I swapped it for a signet
made this on sunday. Just put it online yesterday. Not really looking for help RN. just wanted to showcase it. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/U9njZJm9mUCot-tbfJ9m1g
Playtested more the Saheeli deck. It seems to want more low-drop stuff to get payoffs
Yeah. Feldon and Jaxis help a lot, but they aren't perfect.
The low-cost creatures help when you don't have them
I will have to cut some of the creatures for better low-cost stuff. Idk yet
Added more stuff to Sanwell. I want to add some more vehicles at least the best ones like Parhellion II
Was thousand-moon in before?
Yeah. I got it monday. I have a few cards in the mail from the dr who commander deck. Cybermen Squadron, Cybermat and Cyberman Patrol for this deck. Just doing edits here and there. I just want parhellion for the angels it makes. But I’ll probably wait for the cards I ordered to come in to add em
Also idk why i directly replied to you. 😑
Theres also a few other things I want to add like [[Thopter Shop]] [[Cloud Key]] and maybe a Smothering Tithe.
Artifact
Whenever one or more artifact creatures you control die, draw a card. This ability triggers only once each turn.

,
: Create a 1/1 colorless Thopter artifact creature token with flying.
Rushed repairs once sent a thopter back to combat with a mechanic's still-warm lunch in the gunner's seat.
Ideally goal is just white value/timmy deck. No combos, no gimmicks.
Played it today. Sanwell. It did alright. I guess it just doesn’t have that power to close games
Sanwell is a commander that sort of feels like my Vendilion Clique deck
Having to pay for the card you play feels bad in a similar way to how you can't apply the effect to all 3 opponents
I may switch it later for Lita tbh
Also i pulled a [[Roaming Throne]] I’m trying to slot into Lathril and a replacement suggestion would be appreciated
[[Lita Mechanical]]
Legendary Artifact Creature — Artificer
Vigilance
At the beginning of your end step, untap each other artifact creature you control.

,
: Create a 5/5 colorless Vehicle artifact token named Zeppelin with flying and crew 3. (It has "Tap any number of creatures you control with total power 3 or more: This Vehicle becomes an artifact creature until end of turn.")
3/3
I got Lita will be swaping it to see how it works. I just like Sanwell for the Damn Value
Accelerates my deck somewhat
Wirewood Channeler is my first instinct so far
Same mana, 4 mana is a lot for a 2/2 even if it makes other colors.
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/wJa1RizPQUuJbjUXfWaSUQ
For @supple scroll ‘s Perusal.
Will take a look once I catch up on socials.
Makes sense
Oh, I tried Lita as a commander for the Sanwell deck and it moved SO SLOWLY i had to put sanwell back on the command zone. I will need to add akroma’s memorial or something to close games though
You could also run a lot of artifact synergy win cons and cards to make big plays, or historic synergy.
heres the link for sanwell for reference
Like [[Peri Brown]] or [[Tegan Jovanka]]
Legendary Creature — Human
The first historic spell you cast each turn has convoke. (Your creatures can help cast it. Each creature you tap while casting it pays for
or one mana of that creature's color.)
Doctor's companion (You can have two commanders if the other is the Doctor.)
"I'm Perpugilliam Brown and I can shout just as loud as you can!"
2/3
Legendary Creature — Human
Brave Heart — Whenever you attack, target attacking historic creature gets +1/+1 and gains indestructible until end of turn. (Artifacts, legendaries, and Sagas are historic.)
Doctor's companion (You can have two commanders if the other is the Doctor.)
"You certainly know how to fly this crate, don't you?"
2/2
my thing is mostly closing games than anything else really. with sanwell I can keep my board in check. My thing with Peri Brown is that is only once. Tegan Jovanka is also one of those cards that is kinda eh since Sanwell protects itself well when he attacks with another artifact creature
Fair enough.
Oh, [[sword of paruns]]
Equipped to sanwell
figured
He triggers when he becomes tapped
So you could theoretically do it whenever as long as you have enough mana
And it buffs all other creatures you control
I need to add Springleaf Drum to his deck. its becoming hard to remove stuff to add stuff. I want to add more removal to the deck too.
Hmm
Officially started IRL assembling this janky theme deck
Its the dilema I find myself in with Sanwell
Mondrak Decklist
Thanks for the refresh!
No probs. I would have reposted it if it was too far up the chain
What about [[Reverent Hoplite]]?
Creature — Human Soldier
When Reverent Hoplite enters the battlefield, create a number of 1/1 white Human Soldier creature tokens equal to your devotion to white. (Each
in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to white.)
"Zeal is the sharpest blade, and piety the strongest shield."
1/2
It's an ETB and you don't have any doublers for that
I know it's still a lot of tokens without that, but, it's the piece I see that is the most removable?
I be honest and say sometimes the token generation can be a bit better in the deck. What do you think?
And reverent is a card i like and have thought about removing before so i think it may be time
You're also relatively low devotion outside of one or two cards.
Yeah. i can even probs remove Nykthos but I don’t play the deck often so I will need to pull it out for testing again
Nykthos you can safely leave in I think.
Ashnods and Cathar’s call are two calls I’ve been considering cutting and probs adding more removal
I can see cutting Cathar's Call
I only see one norn in the list (cenobite)
It would be adding another boardwipe basically.
Yeah. Sorry. I meant I have them in the binder. I thought about adding ETB norn but makes sense to not add Flip Norn
Anyway for now just cutting those two cards for o-Taq and Cathar's Call for Removal
I hope it works!
we'll see what happens
elesh Saga deck as goaded /s by @jaunty goblet
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/uuRdLuefJESYE3JxR3PAcQ
needs refinement but eh
Got [[Sally Sparrow]] [[Astrid Perth]] and [[Hargilde kindly]] for doctor deck but unsure if they would fit
Legendary Creature — Human Detective
You may cast creature spells as though they had flash.
Whenever one or more other creatures you control leave the battlefield, investigate. This ability triggers only once each turn. (Create a Clue token. It's an artifact with "
, Sacrifice this artifact: Draw a card.")
2/3
Legendary Creature — Human
Whenever Astrid Peth enters the battlefield or attacks, create a Food token.
Brand-new Sky — Whenever you sacrifice a Clue or Food, Astrid Peth explores. (Reveal the top card of your library. Put that card into your hand if it's a land. Otherwise, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature, then put the card back or put it into your graveyard.)
2/2
I mostly wanted a way to get more tokens made and a way to investigate without sacrificing the mana.
Mondrak needs more ways to generate tokens. Theres a few things I will need to remove from the deck in order to make it generate more tokens as Ideally I want to be making tokens each turn
nod
So... it feels like I've been Furious Alt-Tabing across projects last few weeks. My brain works like that.
I hate that feeling
im used to it. to the point that I actually need my brain to function like that to do my job
I just thought about how silly the one ring could be in your drafna
since you could bounce with the damage trigger on the stack
yup I have thought about it several times already but I don't want to spend 70$ to make the game miserable XD
Bounce back and then re-cast at instant speed every turn seems mean
although very funny
😆
similar energy as nev disk with mycosynth and darksteel on board
speaking of artifacts, I should give Glissa the Traitor some love at some point. She is lackluster compared to my other decks
last update was 8 month ago
what was the combo?
0oh I was just wondering why Mishra's Workshop was mentioned.
It was basically a "Super Boomer" deck
oooo
The person has changed it since then to being Alibou
huh. boros is a color pie I have issues with
Howso?
it doesn;t click mentally?
They realized they could use the workshop to pay for Alibou when Breya couldn't and then kill people with stuff like [[Grafted exoskeleton]]
[[Alibou]]
oh yeah that makes sense
Somehow Boros does make sense to me, but mainly in the last few years.
There have been a lot more Boros combo decks, even if people think they're all auras/equipment
I am interseted in making Anim Pakal at some point. Just trying to taper off making new decks and just upgrade stuff that I have. henc why went abck to glissa
nod
I'm in a similar position
I wanted to finish one of the Francisco deck options first.
lete me know when you get games with it. I wanna know how it did.
I did last night
I just put it in my deck building thread
But summary, I was told if I finished tuning it it sounded terrifying in either version. Kediss or Breeches+Archeologist
sounds like it was an exciting night
looking over the list. Will probably need more ways to make more impactful plays and ways to tutor for things
but idk what else to change at this point.
What about [[Grist]]
Multiple cards match “Grist”, can you be more specific?
[[Grist, the swarmlord]]
Legendary Planeswalker — Grist
As long as Grist, the Hunger Tide isn't on the battlefield, it's a 1/1 Insect creature in addition to its other types.
+1: Create a 1/1 black and green Insect creature token, then mill a card. If an Insect card was milled this way, put a loyalty counter on Grist and repeat this process.
−2: You may sacrifice a creature. When you do, destroy target creature or planeswalker.
−5: Each opponent loses life equal to the number of creature cards in your graveyard.
Loyalty: 3
yeah. My issue with glissa lately has been that somoen else wins before I manage to get anything done
hmm
So either you need to go faster or do the golgari "make things miserable"
[[Keskitt]]
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Human Artificer
, Sacrifice three other artifacts and/or creatures: Look at the top three cards of your library. Put two of them into your hand and the other into your graveyard.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
"Perfection is elusive. Let us try again."
1/3
yeah. As I said, add more card draw and more, more efficeint tutors
XD
Ran him for awhile but it was not helping
Probably switch it to self mill and force sack effects?"
probably play it more like [[Imotekh]]
Legendary Artifact Creature — Necron
Phaeron — Whenever one or more artifact cards leave your graveyard, create two 2/2 black Necron Warrior artifact creature tokens.
Grand Strategist — At the beginning of combat on your turn, another target artifact creature you control gets +2/+2 and gains menace until end of turn.
3/3
I'm just used to running into edicts and "destroy" effects when playing against golgari decks
Just gotta play 2 for 1 creatures instead, ez
i see that more in orzhov myself
I love all 4 of the glissas
When I play against orzhov I mainly find political or token decks
I'd make a deck with each one if it was possible. thought about making mono green glissa too
The 3 mana new glissa has got to be one of my favorite creatures to come out for a while
Mono green glissa goes crazy too
[[Glissa Herald of Predation]] is just so weird though
Legendary Creature — Phyrexian Zombie Elf
At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose one —
• Incubate 2 twice. (To incubate 2, create an Incubator token with two +1/+1 counters on it and "
: Transform this artifact." It transforms into a 0/0 Phyrexian artifact creature.)
• Transform all Incubator tokens you control.
• Phyrexians you control gain first strike and deathtouch until end of turn.
3/5
anyway. I can rebuild glissa from the ground up, but i'd also like to keep the manabase at the very least
That has to be reasonably easy
make it phyrexian typal
yeah. I made the deck and own all cards in it that are in the list. so I'd like to keep some of the core cards like combos in it
I mean she’s pretty powerful on her own
Just kind of a bomb that doesn’t get got most times
I say weird because she easily pops out an army and you can just put in ramp and removal
And usually that sort of thing is saved for mythics
I love those kinds of decks lol, remove a very important essential to building a deck so you can fill the rest with even more of the other stuff
I think most of your changes can be in your artifact section
‘S how I built my tymna Malcolm deck, it has such a low curve that it removed the need for ramp so I added more removal 🙂
that was my thought
Or [[Chulane]] needing very little draw
this glissa deck has that effect.
And probably more [[Gravepact]] effects
I’ve been trying to find a Rock deck that I’m satisfied with.
ovika doesnt dissappoint
Currently I’m sitting on Kamahl/Ikra but I’m not entirely certain it’s what I should run
The Rock is golgari tempo/midrange
figured haha
[[Grismold]]
[[Ovika]]
Multiple cards match “Ovika”, can you be more specific?
this is my imotekh decklist for reference. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/rXVz7eLCd0i0jKRaja-PnA
yes
Idk why I thought the discussion was [[Glissa sunslayer]]
heres the list https://www.moxfield.com/decks/2IPttXt2AEievOK43NCuMw
[[tarrian's soul cleaver]]
Her damage starts to become an actual issue
If you want
I do see Thornbite in there
ofc I want.
That’s pretty cool
for the usual interaction there
Multiple cards match “Conch Shell”, can you be more specific?
Vigilance first strike deathtouch is such a gross combo
[[Conch Horn]]
I also have to make the argument for my best boy [[Sarinth Steelseeker]]]
Creature — Human Artificer Scout
Whenever an artifact enters the battlefield under your control, look at the top card of your library. If it's a land card, you may reveal it and put it into your hand. If you don't put the card into your hand, you may put it into your graveyard.
"This metal junk is ugly, but it's got its uses."
1/2
I assume you’ve got [[Executioner’s Capsule]] in there?
yeah
adding these things to considering sideboard btw
probably should add liberator to this too to be able to flash in stuff and all
Maybe
can probably try [[Attrition]]
Do you have the various mana dorks that sacrifice artifacts to make mana?
which ones are those?"
[[Priest of Yawgmoth]]
oh that dude there is also [[Soldevi Adnate]]
id have to add more creatures to sack on my end which is fine.
[[Ruthless technomancer]] sort of
Creature — Human Wizard
When Ruthless Technomancer enters the battlefield, you may sacrifice another creature you control. If you do, create a number of Treasure tokens equal to that creature's power.

, Sacrifice X artifacts: Return target creature card with power X or less from your graveyard to the battlefield. X can't be 0.
2/4
[[Illuminor Szeras]]?
The priest is nice because it can do the [[Mycosynth wellspring]] etc
I tried him in the beginning and ended up putting it into Korvold
it's not focused on just creatures
yeah. true
been also considering Phyrexian Altar and/or [[Carnage Altar]] and probably switching glissa more to an artifact creature based deck and keeping some of the utility cards
yeahp I will also need to add bombs to the deck. at least 1 or 2 big sticks and a spine of ish sah
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/U9njZJm9mUCot-tbfJ9m1g
Just trying to add Cybership and Mechtitan Core. Considering Nim Deathmantle (probs won’t be added) and Raider’s Karve.
Also considering [[Thran Temporal Gateway]]
I'm not a fan of mechtitan core, but it's the sort of card i'm regularly wrong about
Just trying to use some of my best vehicles. Considering removing Goliath Truck but not sure.
Also thought about removing chromatic Orrery
Only drawn it once and used it that game.
Not married to it but unsure how pivotal i can be in a jiffy
So, why aren't you playing some of the ETB vehicles
I don’t run lots of flicker effects
Do you have a copy of [[Mighty Servant of Leuk-O]]?
Used to and got rid of him because I had no deck that could run him properly
At the time
mm
Theres a lot I wanna do and not enough space 😅
I have cards like Ribskiff and Reckoner’s Bankbuster and a few other artifacts
Will try running it without Aethershield Artificer
hmm
Sorry. I tend to be rather intense at times
Oh. Sorry. I sometimes feel like I can be a bit too much 😅
I have opinions on different red commanders. It's the color I've expanded into the most over the last few years.
Ive been leaning heavily on [[Maraxus of Kjeld]] to be my go to since it would be funny to play a swol dude with 99 basics /s
(I like the gimick though and plays into my artifact affinity as well)
For mono Red I've built: [[Captain Ripley Vance]] [[Torbran, thane of red fell]] and [[Farid|BRC]]
Legendary Creature — Human Soldier
Whenever a nontoken artifact you control is put into a graveyard from the battlefield, create a colorless artifact token named Scrap.

, Sacrifice an artifact: Choose one —
• Put a +1/+1 counter on Farid. It gains menace until end of turn.
• Goad target creature.
• Discard a card, then draw a card.
3/3
Farid is very fun
in got farid in the 99 of Flamewar
this is what i have. just a bunch of stuff thrown together.
FYI i don't plan to build this any time soon
Been thinking about this deck for awhile now as i go through rounds of upgrades across all my decks and this is the one deck that is slowest. Idk how to even fix it
So the strategy I'm seeing feelss a little all over the place.
Some of those are aggressive, some are control and some are go wide
But in a way that feels like itnwould go really slowly
[[Bess soul nourisher]]
Legendary Creature — Human Citizen
Whenever one or more other creatures with base power and toughness 1/1 enter the battlefield under your control, put a +1/+1 counter on Bess, Soul Nourisher.
Whenever Bess attacks, each other creature you control with base power and toughness 1/1 gets +X/+X until end of turn, where X is the number of +1/+1 counters on Bess.
1/1
Is probably one of the most emphatic suggestions I'd make even if it's partially a nonbo with sigarda's summons
I’ve been teethering on cutting Sigarda’s Summons tbh
[[Segovian Angel]]
Sorry, trying to find a Fleshbag Marauder and Plaguecrafter for Bartolome
Don’t own one tbh
I'm not fond of victories envoy
How so?
It's 5 mana, doesn't put a counter on itself and you need to untap with it.
Mm yeah
I'd think about whether you'd want to run [[spike feeder]]
Or a cares about modified card
I added the counter synnergy because a lot of the humans I added that were good also came sith counter stuff
But in general I would prefer to go “fast and Hard”
Spike Feeder with the Archangel of Thune is just "I would like the game to be over"
[[Archangel of Thune]]
Which is in the list already
Well ideally I do think you should seek to have a complete and viable win condition in your deck given your commander is all about providing utility and card advantage. Also I'd probably cut Susan Foreman just because she herself isn't a Human. I'd also probably replace Sigarda's Summons with something that can give you draw and/or value like a [[Smuggler's Share]] or a [[Better Together]]
No card found for “Better Together”
[[Together Forever]]
Susan is part of why I was suggesting Bess
[[Susan Foreman]]
She could also just be an elf though
True. Alternatively you could go Kutzil for some safety during your turns and a potential draw engine.
And since you work with counters it'll be easy to trigger.
Or [[Biophagus]] (though it's a lot more $)
Creature — Human Tyranid Wizard
Genomic Enhancement —
: Add one mana of any color. If this mana is spent to cast a creature spell, that creature enters the battlefield with an additional +1/+1 counter on it.
"We guarantee you that within a week, you will feel like a new man." —Galaxos Klynesmith, biophagus
1/3
[[$Biophagus]]
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Kutzil is just... strong
Only literally added her cuz she’s a dork
Yeah
I could add kutzil. I pulled one and idk where it is now that i think about it
Im at the LGS so i may be offline for a while
Here’s the weird Mono-Green deck updated.
Looks solid. I don't think BoP is that good in here though given that it's mono color.
You want a mana dork in it because of Omnath. I guess it could be most other things though.
[[delighted halfling]] would have better milaghe
the flying blocker might work out tho i dunno
That would have meant you'd need to keep track of casting restrictions for the mana.
I'm surprised by the mana multipliers that are missing.
like, Sakiko is there but not [[Mark of Sakiko]] or [[Tanuki Transplanter]]
Artifact Creature — Equipment Dog
Whenever Tanuki Transplanter or equipped creature attacks, add an amount of
equal to its power. Until end of turn, you don't lose this mana as steps and phases end.
Reconfigure
(
: Attach to target creature you control; or unattach from a creature. Reconfigure only as a sorcery. While attached, this isn't a creature.)
2/4
For sure but it at least helps you cast your commander without counter worries
BoP?
Birds of Paradise
Oh. I just used a ton of shit I had laying about. So i may be missing a ton of stuff
tbh it's not bad, I suppose in the realm of like, 1 mv dorks in mono green there's not too much that's better
I am literally playing and I only had my commander and 7 floating mana and they destroyed the commander and I’ve sat on the board doing nothing for the last 3 turns
Its one of those decks I still havenmt been able to play and ejoy because all games end up like this
Anyway now I need to figure out what to cut for Zendikar Resurgent, Heartbeat of Spring.
I also probs beed to cut stuff to add more dorks
I gave up on making a mono-green deck. I realized I cannot, for the life of me, make it work. So I just broke it apart. Turned it into Meria, Scholar of Antiquity. I really wanted to make it work
I also don’t believe this meria deck will work, so we’ll see. (Really frustrated still. Will try it Friday and then take a break from mtg)
This has been my problem with mono green
yeah. I considered doing Ojer Kaslem but I didn't want to invest in it. One Day I will find a mono-green commander I really like. Or make a dual colored commander who is just mono green deck
[[Oviya]] and [[Reki, the History of Kamigawa]] are the closest I've gotten
I tried doing Oviya but, although it worked, it was slow AF
I have a promo at home
and I have Reki in the 99 of the Doctor deck
This is the now meria list.
I'd consider having [[Battered Golem]] on the list if you can get one. I'm seeing if I have any good suggestions for a cut though.
I just made it from the bones of the green deck and stuff I had laying about. Have not played it yet so idk how it will perform. Based it on the concept I had for Urza to wanting all my artifacts to just be mana rocks
Legendary Creature — Elf Druid Scout
: Add two mana in any combination of colors. Spend this mana only to cast creature spells or activate abilities of a creature or creature card.
Whenever you cast a creature spell with power 5 or greater, put a +1/+1 counter on Gwenna, Eyes of Gaea and untap it.
2/3
Fun way of trying to abuse her untapping clause, bringing out big beasties, and gaining big board presence and advantage.
Hope you find one that works for you!
Yeah I turned the deck into [[Meria, Scholar of Antiquity]] and it seems to work much better. Ugh. Can’t believe I can’t make a deck work without ample supply of artifacts.
Anyway, I guess my goal now is to make an artifact deck in all colors :3
So I playtested the meria deck yesterday and realized I may need more artifacts to tap for Green. (and also a better, witty name) https://www.moxfield.com/decks/_XtF8AlsckmfNOknU05AOA
Well there's a couple of useful Green artifacts.
And you have some of em XD
You could even try [[The Skullspore Nexus]]
Legendary Artifact
This spell costs
less to cast, where X is the greatest power among creatures you control.
Whenever one or more nontoken creatures you control die, create a green Fungus Dinosaur creature token with base power and toughness each equal to the total power of those creatures.
,
: Double target creature's power until end of turn.
[[$Skullspore Nexus]]
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It would just be hseful to double power and toughness. Idk if I want to add it
What's your goal for the Meria deck
Is it just functionality or a specific play pattern
It looks like big mana card advantage
Pretty much play a ton of cheap artifscts that feed into the degeneracy of big bois
Standard gruul stuff
If you have access to an Etali I would look at one of those
Either
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I keep forgetting how much it is
I got it for under $1
Then Legacy went wild for it and it was like $60 something but settled back at 10
I used to have one and traded it away.
It was 30$ at one point but is easier to get one for 10$
I still stand by [[Battered Golem]]
[[$battered golem]]
Fifth Dawn
$0.24 • €0.21 • 0.03 TIX
Yeah. Same function as Traxos I take it?
I tried to see if there was a way to go infinite with [[reckless Fireweaver]] in this deck but came up with nothing.
Meria combos
So you can sort of build it with a whurza combo
Where you pay for [[Animation Module]] by tapping the sword of the meek with Meria
I’ll check it in a bit. About to be busy for the next hour
Would [[Animation Module]] [[Decoction Module]] [[Fabrication Module]] work in this deck with the Hammer of Purphoros on the board?
and, well, the arcbound ravager.
i just remebered [[Doors of Durin]]
That's not a terrible card
So, I made a mock up of what I'd probably do with Meria if I'm focused on combo lines. https://www.moxfield.com/decks/RQfHrlAj90ujR-zwVZ5dvw
i'll check it in a bit. Also will have to get a Wurmcoil engine for this deck.
Also got Jenny Flint and Madame Vastra to try and build later. They seem interesting.
Im seeing things I did not consider. I did consider getting a Cyberman Patrol but I don't want to lean in too much into artifacts yet. Just started to look through it to it may be a bit
So, my doing that list isn't necessarily a suggestion but sort of how my brain visualized it
So, I guess... a way of showing where my brain is to try and find the gaps to help you better.
its fine. I do appreciate it 😆
I do have a Reckless Handling and I want to put it in the current list but I am unsure as to what to cut for ti
i forget how good comet storm is in meria
Same with [[Howling Mine]]
Just have to make sure it's tapped before the next player's step
i forgot about the untapped clause. I do have one at home somewhere
i even considered running Blood Moon
Mm
For a while I looked at doing Meria stax
Because, like Urza she has the ability so she gets around [[Collector Ouphe]]
indeed. I considered putting some stax pieces in there like [[Damping Sphere]] and [[Cursed totem]] as well as [[Torpor Orb]] but then decided against it
nod
They're so minuscule when you look at them in a vacuum, then you play them and it shuts down half the board
i have the same relationship with [[Ethersworn Canonist]] but im more liable to run her than the other cards i mentioned
I may add Halana and Alena though since I have one at home
I asked the question in the rules forum about Alena because I was curious how much she'd make if Halana/Alena gave her +2/+2 and haste. Answer, she'd make 6 red mana.
uhh her card alone right?
I kinda want to add all three into this deck. Since i have all them
Yeah
As long as she has haste the turn she enters.
But if you double the power of a creature, etc. All that counts too
yeahp. But yah, Theres a few things i want to add to this. I did get all the Modules from Kaaldes/Aether Revolt today for this deck. Want to add A Wurmcoil Engine, also ordered Extruder and Doors of Durin. Will add The lesbian Couple to the deck when I get home. Dunno what I'll cut for them, but we'll see. I do want to keep Big Bad Wurm in there.
Oh, Also sent the glissa deck for you to check out. Played it monday and it was all control during the game against a voltron deck and Lathril dekc
Thunderhulk + Imotekh are major players in it
Ordered [[Glissa Sunseeker||SLD]] I might try Mono-Green with it as my next go to a green deck. Also I think I will move Meria slowly to a combo gruul deck. Not all at once but its tge end goal
List of Decks i need to Upgrade/Optimize in the near future:
1- Sanwell, Avenger Ace
2- Hakbal of the Surging Soul
3- Ovika, Enigma Goliath
4- Rith, the Awakener
5- Saskia the Unyielding (needs to be Optimized and streamlined)
6- Urtet, Remnant of Memnarch (Needs a full Overhaul)
7- Trostani, Selesnya's Voice (Needs to be Optimized)
8- Sigarda, Font of Blessings (Probably remake from the ground up with the same idea)
9- Meria, Scholar of Antiquity (Needs to just be figured out and optimized)
10- Brimaz, Blight of Oreskos (Rebuild as artifa-ristocrats instead of phyrexian focused. Will, ofc add some phyrexians, but mainly artifacts in Orzhov)
Looks like a great list.
I am holding back the urge to sit down and work on my decks right now or just straight up make up a new deck just because.
So this is what I have for re re-make for Brimaz
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/bkbJHFdw6k2T4kUT1mpO0A
I see 2 things I could argue for cutting
???
[[Skorpekh Lord]] and [[Phyrexian vindicator]]
Artifact Creature — Necron Noble
Menace
Command Protocols — Other artifact creatures you control get +1/+0 and have menace.
Unearth 
(
: Return this card from your graveyard to the battlefield. It gains haste. Exile it at the beginning of the next end step or if it would leave the battlefield. Unearth only as a sorcery.)
3/2
It says you're at 103 cards
It's a card that feels fine?
It's probably better than I'm thinking
But, the other, you don't care about devotion and it doesn't really die
yeah i cut it. Mostly added it because it was phyrexian.
i forgot to add psychomancer
@night vale any idea for a stax deck that has access to white and Temur? Idk. Just trying to have access to Meria and Urza to tap the artifacts.
Hmm
I want more azorius colors tbh
Legendary Creature — Time Lord Doctor
When you cast this spell, reveal the top fourteen cards of your library. Put all Doctor cards revealed this way into your graveyard and the rest on the bottom of your library in a random order.
You may have The Fourteenth Doctor enter the battlefield as a copy of a Doctor card in your graveyard that was put there from your library this turn. If you do, it gains haste until end of turn.
3/4
Or Elmar/Hargilde https://edhrec.com/commanders/elmar-ulvenwald-informant-hargilde-kindly-runechanter
Huh. Elmar seems interesting tbh
I already have Hargilde
I wanna make it challenging to play against but not impossible
4c Aragorn is sort of a good-stuff shell and can be whatever you want
Yeah. I mean, as I said, I can go down to just Azorius
Mainly want white in it and access to blue and such
I’ll look around
Yeah
I was considering Meria Stax or Urza Stax but then realized “white has the best stax pieces”
Yeah
The nice thing about bruse/thrasios is Bruse's fists and Thrasios' ability help make some stax asymmetrical
🤔
Elmar/Hargilde are more directly connected to artifacts though
Yeah. I also though about Jenny Flint+Madame Vastra
But then. No access to white
I’ll try Elmar since is cheaper to get Elmar
I had looked at doing an Urtet along these lines though
Really!?
Using various artificers etc. And few actual myr
I guess I have a way to re-do urtet. Though idk how effective it would be. Keeping it focused would be best tho
I'm waiting for pain meds to kick in. I'm going to try to put it together quickly because I don't have it in moxfield
We can talk about it tomorrow. I’m jaut trying to cook something to counter Rose Tyler deck of a friend of mine. And he’s looking forward to it too.
Chulane Stax?
This isn't stax but it's the best my brain is remembering atm
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/i1dlLqEpOUCNjat-UQQHrg
[[Solemnity]]
This would probably help you a lot as a straight counter to Rose Tyler.
I’ve been meaning to make a staxy deck for a bit anyway. So this is a way to just straight up start the process. I want access to white because it has a lot of the best stax pieces. I may make it either mono-white or azorius
I think Meria is getting the dtax treatment
She has some things that really help facilitate that
I added some changes to her already
Good card to cut for Smothering Tithe?
Maybe Bootlegger's?
I would say yes but it went crazy with Academy Manufactor on friday
Im@a swap em out and see whay works best. I still would like to keep Bootleggers Stash because I want to run it somewhere
Also been thinking about Jodah unifier and slapping all the crappy legends in it that I’m not using anywhere else. (I write here a lot but is also a way to get thoughts outta mah head)
So, I need an additional Win Con I can go for in with this deck so I don't feel as Glass Cannon-y with it.
I've been thinking about removing Mocking Sprite from the deck too
Sorcery
Paradox — Impending Flux deals X damage to each opponent and each creature they control, where X is 1 plus the number of spells you've cast from anywhere other than your hand this turn.
Foretell 

(During your turn, you may pay
and exile this card from your hand face down. Cast it on a later turn for its foretell cost.)
If you have Emry and a 0 mana self-sacrificing artifact with Jeskai Ascendancy out that works too
yeah. just trying to add something else that does not depend on storm.

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