pseudo bloom
I've never made a CEdh before, so my list is mostly silly strong cards. What should i add or remove to fit it to a CEdh environment? My theme is big creatures, though i wouldn't mind a few simple combos. Show me the most deranged way to make huge creatures effectively.
Here is the decklist: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/384t_0VkTku9amH_C0ByFQ
main trench
so, looking at this, I don't see much that suggests cEDH - it looks like a deck that would be great at strong mid-level casual tables, you're missing out on way too much interaction for this to be cEDH-viable, and I don't see any way for this to combo win at a glance? I'd look at a list like these from the cedh decklist databse if you want to be in Temur: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/dd-7fRM6_ECUV1VqZdK9uA
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/OSZYIdU-bUmA7MifJQ_fYg
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/MO7d17e-l0-kwXYG5OjzaQ
https://www.moxfield.com/decks/ZNsUwYgeIkesOMmn2Q8TZQ
or if you're dead-set on a creature win being viable, you may want to look at Yisan (more creature-combo-oriented): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/IOyWxvodxkiGECm8CIulEA
or Yasharn (looks like your best bet if you want to beat down in a cEDH environment): https://www.moxfield.com/decks/c0vCJr_6eEmf7AECzDNFTA or maybe Tana/Tymna for the classic "Blood Pod" deck: https://www.moxfield.com/decks/YAaImlptyUifCfct1hbF7Q
I'm not saying this to be mean; I'm just expecting that in a cEDH tournament where proxies are allowed that this will be the caliber of decks you will face, which are all totally different beasts than the one you have linked up there, so if you're proxying a whole deck may as well go whole hog yeah?
if you've got some decks you know you'll see it would be helpful to tailor advice more accurately; but when I and most others see cEDH, these are the kinds of decks we expect to see or be able to compete with
pseudo bloom
so, looking at this, I don't see much that suggests cEDH - it looks like a deck ...
I vastly disagree with this being mid-level, though i can't argue against it probably performing poorly at CEdh tables. As said, i am not looking to win with combos primarily, but i am willing to cut stuff to add interaction and add whatever staples people can suggest.
distant jacinth
I'm going to concur with PGleo on this. I almost exclusively play high-to-cEDH and this looks like a solid mid-tier deck. Once you start going into High Level, you'll see more of a reliance on combos than what you currently have available.
The question you need to ask yourself when aiming for high level play and above is "How many turns will it take for me to get my win-con when faced with mild to moderate resistance?" High level play is roughly 5-9 turns, good cEDH decks are under 3. You've got a lot of expensive cards (mana wise) that do not appear to be easily turbo'd out sans Ghalta. You probably could push Surrak Dragonclaw into the high level range, but I would be hardpressed to find a cEDH build where he'd scrape by in that format.
willow lichen
if you specifically want to use that commander, the best build would be stax where your hatebears can be used to overrun
the issue is [[tymna]] [[kamahl heart of
polar ospreyBOT
willow lichen
[[kamahl heart of]] do this better
polar ospreyBOT
Legendary Creature — Human Druid
At the beginning of combat on your turn, creatures you control get +3/+3 and gain trample until end of turn.
: Until end of turn, target land you control becomes a 1/1 Elemental creature with vigilance, indestructible, and haste. It's still a land.
Partner (You can have two commanders if both have partner.)
5/5
willow lichen
a) white
b) card draw
c) partner (broken)
d) better overrun
also stax is not that good right now, the meta is super heavy midrange grindfest
as others have said, yisan is probably the best creature based wincon
[[jeska thrice]] [[ishai ojutai]] is also another option for a deck, its primarily combo but can just beat people to death. it also has imo the 3 best colours
willow lichen
(yes my hot take is that white > black)
distant jacinth
(yes my hot take is that white > black)
I don't hate it
main trench
depends what you're looking to get out of it tbh, I think black's tutors are just as important as anything white can offer
fathom goblet
So while I’m mostly going to agree with what people say here (mainly that while Surrak is a fun commander, he doesn’t give you what you super want for a cEDH environment), Stompy absolutely is a viable cEDH strat. It just involves playing gobs and gobs of stax and removal to keep the midrange decks from taking over the game. Decks that can play stuff like [[collector ouphe]] and [[hushbringer]] will feast. Folks suggested Tymna-Kamahl, and that’s a great option if you’re looking for Stompy with some card advantage
fathom goblet
However, as people have said, winning through combat damage is really hard. Especially when people are playing efficient A+B combos that can win out of nowhere. You have to tech for those common combos
Kamahl+X is the way to go if you want Stompy from the command zone, but lots of stax decks nowadays run [[grand cenobite]]
polar ospreyBOT
fathom goblet
Combos dominate cEDH. When you have 120 life to get through, you have to engineer your deck in a very specific way to win through combat beats
And while beatdown decks exist (cough cough [[winota]] and [[najeela]])
polar ospreyBOT
Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
Whenever a Warrior attacks, you may have its controller create a 1/1 white Warrior creature token that's tapped and attacking.
: Untap all attacking creatures. They gain trample, lifelink, and haste until end of turn. After this phase, there is an additional combat phase. Activate only during combat.
3/2
fathom goblet
They might not be what you’re looking for
Temur historically has had a tough time playing that kind of beatdown style you’re looking at in the traditional sense with slamming big creatures. If you wanna stay in Temur, [[pako]]+[[haldan]]
pseudo bloom
Thank you! I will check it out
fathom goblet
It’s a hard deck to pilot correctly, because you’re playing a control deck. You wanna slam the dog, then use the insane advantage from the dog to win the game while you smash face. Their combo wins are a bit annoying and clunky, but the traditional loops are [[seasons past]] loops to generate infinite turns
polar ospreyBOT
fathom goblet
Or standard Underworld Breach loops
sleek notch
agreed that white > black if you want to win with creatures and not win with combos
also agreed that pako and haldan is probably the face-beat-iest temur commander you can find haha
yasharn and tocasia are the only "actual combat" cEDH decks I've played
and they're basically the same deck
fathom goblet
Yasharn totally wins through beats a lot yeah
[[dhalsim]] also has smacked me dead a lot
polar ospreyBOT
fathom goblet
mono-white Heliod smashed my face in with 6/7 Archon of Emerias more than once during the year straight i played against it
main trench
Yasharn totally wins through beats a lot yeah
Sythis also does, though sometimes a combo just shows up
