#Captain Rex Nebula Dice Rolling

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Originally, Injust thought [[Captain Rex Nebula]] was a pretty unique commander, and that's what I want in a Commander deck.

But also, I've been wanting to make a deck about rolling dice for a while - but wasnt a huge fan of the two other options.

I know he doesnt really care about dice, but I thought Dice matters might fit.

My original card searching, I was looking for things that might Crash Land, leaning toward 5 & 6; but every other version seems to want to avoid Crash Land.

https://www.moxfield.com/decks/m-S3JZPn7EipdPZ7CwPZWA

rare cryptBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Pilot Employee
At the beginning of combat on your turn, choose target nonland permanent you control. Until end of turn, it becomes a Vehicle artifact with base power and toughness each equal to its mana value, and it gains crew 2 and "Crash Land — Whenever this Vehicle deals damage, roll a six-sided die. If the result is equal to this Vehicle's mana value, sacrifice this Vehicle, then it deals that much damage to any target."
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crimson goblet
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You have the infinite combo in it though with the Brazen dwarf

still plume
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Yeah, that is pretty similar; I'll have to look amd.see what you used that I hadnt thought of.

What is the Brazen Dward combo? I'm not much of a combo player/finder

crimson goblet
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Rex Nebula doesn't say it has to be combat damage. " Whenever this Vehicle deals damage"

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If it's been turned into a vehicle with crash land and you roll a die it will do damage.

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Which will cause you to roll another die, and do more damage, etc.

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So it will kill all the opponents.

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Assault Suit means you won't have to sacrifice it.

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[[Armed and Armored]] will animate it and then be able to equip it with the suit

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crimson goblet
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[[True Conviction]] + [[Aetherflux Reservoir]] = If you use its ability while it's a crewed vehicle you gain the life back and can do it again.

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crimson goblet
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[[Vexing Puzzlebox]], [[Mirage Mirror]] and [[Darksteel Reactor]] are also a kill condition.

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crimson goblet
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Get charge counters on Mirage Mirror by making it a copy of the puzzlebox.

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Turn it into a copy of the reactor when it hits 20 counters.

still plume
# crimson goblet Turn it into a copy of the reactor when it hits 20 counters.

Ew. lol. amusing though.

Thanks for those explanations. No reason not to include them because they are neat; But I do mostly want to focus on doing the actual "crash land" thing. I'm a turn creatures sideways player anyways.
If I could make the crash landings work as a source to get out those combo pieces that would be the perfect balance of doing what the deck says its going to do, and then having a wincon beyond "swinging for 120"

crimson goblet
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nod

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They're mostly ones that I included because they amused me and worked with the deck mechanics.

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The mirror grouping was in a Delina deck I tried making but that mostly became Rex Nebula

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Except Rex Nebula has a Dwarf subtheme instead of a mountain one.

still plume
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So, I guess Id be looking for ways to turn either Damage, Combat Damage, or Artifacts being sacrificed into card draw; to use the crash landings to find the combo pieces

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Which I giess could also be part of the creatures and items being picked to turn into the vehicles.

crimson goblet
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nod

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OH, [[Jaxis]] is in my list because Rex doesn't require it to be a non-token permanent.

rare cryptBOT
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Legendary Creature — Human Warrior
manar, manat, Discard a card: Create a token that's a copy of another target creature you control. It gains haste and "When this creature dies, draw a card." Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step. Activate only as a sorcery.
Blitz mana1manar (If you cast this spell for its blitz cost, it gains haste and "When this creature dies, draw a card." Sacrifice it at the beginning of the next end step.)
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crimson goblet
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So if you have a creature you don't want to die you can make a copy and use crash land on that.

still plume
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And it has faux blitz so draws you a card on death

crimson goblet
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Yep

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Also she has a lower blitz cost than her mana value. So if you blitz her she'd do 4 damage with a crash land and you'd also draw a card.

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crimson goblet
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The trigger is at start of combat so there's no time to equip

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If you equip before combat it will fall off when crash landing happens

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Because it stops being a creature

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So if you need to get the roll during combat you're risking having to sacrifice it

crimson goblet
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You can crew it though

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# crimson goblet You can crew it though

Does crew un-creature at end of combat?!?!
I was thinking you could go to combat, Dwarf becomes vehicle until end of turn. Crew it, but dont attack (also works just crewing in 2nd main), equip it, and then use any card that rolled a die.

crimson goblet
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No. End of turn

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crimson goblet
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But say, you get the roll with an attack trigger (Delina)

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Then the first roll for crash land would happen during combat

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If the dwarf was made a vehicle

still plume
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What happens if you target a crewed vehicle with Captains ability? It becomes a vehicle, but it already is one; does it lose its creature status?

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The target of Rex Nebula's ability will become a Vehicle artifact until end of turn. It will lose all of its previous card types and subtypes, but it will keep any supertypes (such as legendary) it previously had. If the target of Rex Nebula's ability is a creature, it will lose all creature types (such as Zombie) it had until end of turn, and becoming crewed will not cause it to regain those subtypes.

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So, wouldnt it still become a non creature vehicle when you target it with Rex?

crimson goblet
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Yes, it will be a non-creature vehicle when it's targeted by Rex.

still plume
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I had forgotten about the "attach equip to Dwarf" But, According to the above ruling, the Brazen Dwarf wont be a "Dwarf" after he targets it.

crimson goblet
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When you cast the spell it first turns vehicles into creatures.

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So it would become a dwarf again

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And then you'd get to the part where it says to equip to a dwarf.

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You don't have to target the dwarf when you cast though too, you choose it.

still plume
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My apologies if I'm not following how you Achieve having it equipped pre combat with that card.

crimson goblet
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No, it's an instant. So you can have it resolve after combat has started either while the dice trigger is on the stack or generally before damage has happened.

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And this may well be an instance of my having gone too weird/deep on the one card.

still plume
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If its during combat though, once it's been targetted by Rex's ability, it's no longer a Dwarf so cant be equipped with that particular card.

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If its pre combat, it ceases being a creature, either reg dwarf or A&A created Vehicle once Rex's ability goes through

crimson goblet
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I'm going to ask in rulings.

still plume
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The answer might just be, "Dont trigger it during combat".

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And wait until 2nd main phase.

crimson goblet
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Answer yes. Because I found out that he strips them of all creature types even if they get crewed

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And they're just "vehicle"

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But yeah, that is the answer.