Main Campaign mode (but I actually put some effort into it)

[thick jewel]

Something I've always wanted for TETR.IO is to have a campaign mode where you complete stages in order, which could give a larger goal to the game rather than "make the number on your profile really high". Unlike most other suggestions I make, I actually put some effort into this, by defining all 85 stages that should be in the mode. The 85 stages will be split up into 10 worlds of 8 stages each as well as a final challenge containing the other five. At the end, when all the stages are complete, maybe roll some credits and play the rejected Floor 10 music (which is actually how I got the idea for this). The stages must be completed in sequence (e.g. you can't complete 8-3 before you complete 8-2) and you must pass the stage to complete it. In the top left of the mode's menu should be a completion percentage of some point. Incomplete stages are 0% complete, D ranks are 80% complete, Cs are 86.7%, Bs are 93.3%, As are 100%, and S rank completions count as 110% completion (due to their higher requirements). These are then averaged across all stages and then put as your completion percentage on your profile. Also, in the top right, when a stage is selected, it shows its' info (e.g. best score, rank, requirement, stage index, etc.) like an image (see image).
Hope this gets added :) [please i spent like 4 hours designing this]

[thick jewel]

btw i specifically made it so that people around S to S+ can complete it reliably, and worlds 1,2,3 are really beginner friendly (D and C rank)

[thick jewel]

also, maybe you could make some achievements to this as well

Completionist
Complete the Main Campaign.
A giant gauntlet, never to be underestimated.

Finale Speedrunner
Fastest time to complete Stage X-RMX
The final countdown.

Damnation++
Total lines cleared in Stage 9-7
The devil has become the God of Hell.

[upper cradle]

but maybe also allow like more open world-ness

like undertale or other campaign games

idk osk's intentions but open world wise it would maybe get more ppl into the game

but yeah that downside is that it would take away from ppl playing tetra league/ qp2 etx

[thick jewel]

i think that was the case for TL when qp2 released, so many people were trying out QP2 that TL became ghost town

[upper cradle]

idk

but all i know was that it did feel like that when i started tetyrio towards the start of season 2

[thick jewel]

yeah...

[glacial crest]

someone cooked fire here...

[thick jewel]

someone wasted a couple afternoons here

[thick jewel]

i can't tell if this is a compliment or an insult

[glacial crest]

i gave this thread an hq

[thick jewel]

oh

i didn't see lmao

[glacial crest]

all good

[thick jewel]

seriously tho this is like

the only request i've made in the past ever that hasn't gotten a flood of twelve within the first day

[glacial crest]

eh

damn thats
unfortunate

[thick jewel]

what do you think are the chances of this getting added to the game

(disregarding the nightmarish amount of coding required to do this shit)

[glacial crest]

haven't started reading the 10kb file yet

[thick jewel]

it's a bit outdated

i made a few balancing changes courtesy of @velvet adder

[glacial crest]

just kinda drawing comparisons to te:c campaign and revival tasks in qp2

preliminary thoughts:
id say possible

[thick jewel]

So you're telling me... there's a chance.

[upper cradle]

[thick jewel]

what do you mean

[sick chasm]

speedrun except you need to start right after it releases (so you can get in top 100 and lb)

me after reading it: nvm it's not for me (idk how to do spin triple, other than t)

[pallid flame]

idk how to L/J spin, bcs it's so counterintuitive

[glacial crest]

the i piece:

[thick jewel]

S/Z spinning and L/J spinning all follow nearly the same rules as TST

create a hole to fit the piece

and it's done

create an overhang so it goes in, and voila

[thick jewel]

at that point in the campaign (around world 7-9) you should already have been playing long enough to get a feel for how tetr.io's rotation works

[thick jewel]

also

a couple more achievements:

Supercompletionist
Get a completion percentage of 100% or higher in the Main Campaign.

Now you have truly done it.

A Stacker of Gods
Get an S rank on every stage.
A god among the gods, not to be understood.

Survival++
Total time survived in stage X-3
72 lines per minute or bust.

Skip The Tutorial
Complete the entirety of World 1 in 6 minutes or less.
"Just get on with the real game already!"

[fleet ether]

interesting idea

would this work in the form the daily challenges too?

[thick jewel]

maybe?

not sure tho

[gentle quiver]

dude this is so cool i hope it gets added

[thick jewel]

you mean like "pick a random challenge and if you complete it, you get a thing"

[fleet ether]

yes kinda

[thick jewel]

yeah this has been cooking in my mind for the better part of the forever

[gentle quiver]

maybe some of the higher requirements should be stricter because clearing a spin in less than 45 seconds (2-3) is free for anyone above A rank

or just add U and X rank like techmino

[velvet adder]

it’s supposed to be pretty friendly to beginners

[thick jewel]

you should be able to complete it if you're around S- rank, maybe S+ at worst

[gentle quiver]

yeah and it is

but higher level players should also have something to aspire to (if anything make the higher ranks hidden until you are high enough to obtain them like some achievements)

idk i'm not an expert balancer

[thick jewel]

i also requested an issued achievement for this

which is #1346598743952195676 message

basically, do everything perfectly

could be done with SS-U rank

[pallid flame]

tbf the setup for the i-spin is the same across three ranks

just with different rotations

[thick jewel]

i-spin triple is literally free

just set up a 6-3 and then "accidentally" misdrop your I on the far left side in the horizontal position

[pallid flame]

i know

[thick jewel]

what i recommended for campaign is just a rough draft of sorts, osk and their team can balance it later

[velvet adder]

[upper cradle]

idk felt like using the emoji

[mortal stirrup]

Dude i like this idea

[thick jewel]

ty

[gritty tapir]

reminds me of the game DATA WING, love the idea

[upper cradle]

ima un to just it again

[ember tartan]

Someone's been cooking on their feature request! /proud

[hollow hedge]

osk pls add this on the next update

[verbal chasm]

lgtm!!!!

[thick jewel]

what are the approximate chances that this gets added

[thick jewel]

on a scale from "yeah there's no way this gets added" to "if osk doesn't add this i will send 10 directly to his location"

[verbal chasm]

implemented literally as described? if you want my honest answer, i don't really see it happening
i do see more singleplayer variety in the future with a campaign mode of some sort but garbo wants to go his own route and that probably won't involve revive tasks on decaff

the document itself reminds me a lot of https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ikFyqyMJsVeHfBObAnp7-cF1Xp3QU0yt5wjjsvV7fAE/edit
it's very "this is legibly possible in a solo custom game but why would you go out of your way to play that"

like, what makes people remember the clear goal of 4-X?
i know every stage can't be a smash hit in terms of memorablity but like i said, there's not a lot stopping you from setting up 0.3G gravity and seeing how long you can go (it's forever, it's always immediately forver, until you get to master levels)

[thick jewel]

0.3G is 1 drop/3 frames-ish, do remember that

this is meant for people who have JUST started the game

[verbal chasm]

20G doesn't phase me to any capacity whatsoever

it shouldn't if you're above like....SS rank

just hit the rotate button a few more times

[thick jewel]

i almost want this to be the replacement for the first gamemode a new player plays

[verbal chasm]

singleplayer tetr.io is just too solved at this point so i have a pretty pessimistic look at something you could theoretically recreate by changing custom game values

[thick jewel]

usually, when someone starts playing tetr.io, the places they normally go are, what

QP and custom rooms

and probably zen mode

[thick jewel]

i designed the mode so that it should be completable by people around A+ to S- rank, and perfected (get an S rank on every stage) by S+ to SS ranks

[verbal chasm]

well sorry, i'm not trying to be above everything and everyone else but i still just see an uninspiring checklist

[thick jewel]

i mean, i basically just designed the mode as a rough draft, it's not set in stone like "if you don't implement it EXACTLY like this then i will be pissed"

i'm just trying to give our lord and saviour osk some ideas

[verbal chasm]

well garbo's the game designer, and i'm sure he's put thought into this issue. development just has to catch up before an addition of this magnitude is considered

[thick jewel]

also what was 4-X again? i don't have access to the original doc atm

[verbal chasm]

Clear as many Quads back-to-back as possible in 3:00, 6 required to pass (C: 8, B: 10, A: 12, S: 15)

[velvet adder]

ig theres a goal on the side of the board

[verbal chasm]

when i'm talking about memorable moments, the obvious comparison is spirit drop evolution, and i do think that one has some meat to it

[thick jewel]

shouldn't that be pretty easy to remember? i mean it's literally just "quad spam 6 times, got it"

[verbal chasm]

yeah but why would anyone bother memorizing this

[thick jewel]

also read this

[verbal chasm]

the beginners don't have much commitment
the mid-levels and pros have already beaten it

[thick jewel]

this is what i originally planned

the goal is on above the board or behind it

[verbal chasm]

i'm not talking about ingame lol

i'm talking about the theoretical conversation occurring in #tetrio·general where a new player asks for tips on how to beat 4-X and the U rank of the day groans and has to re-open the game because there's no way they know what 4-X was

[thick jewel]

wait i just had a insane idea

what if i divide them into categories

for example, world LN would be things like clear X lines in Y time

world SC would be score X points in Y time

world QD would be clear X quads in Y time

world BB - reach B2BX in Y time

maybe odder stuff like world SP

meaning stuff like clear X Y-spin Zs in W time

[upper cradle]

what is the Zs in that

[pallid flame]

probably lines cleared at once

[upper cradle]

one thing that i’m kinda afraid of is that this is gonna feel too far away from smthng like “adventure mode” and more towards the “grind until u get it to grind more”

so uhh we might need garbo here

[thick jewel]

also, some recommendations for how XP would be gained

world 1 stuff gives you 200xp per, world 2 gives 300, world 3 gives 400, all the way up to w10 which gives 1100

these get multiplied based on stage rank (c: 1.1, b: 1.2, a: 1.3, s: 1.5)

world X gives 1500

and stage X-RMX specifically gives 2000

[sick chasm]

xp grinding + improving various aspect of skill

good for users, but osk might think that's too unbalanced

[thick jewel]

also maybe here's an achievement:

I Understand It Now
On world 8 or above, fail the first stage once and then get an S rank on every stage in that world immediately afterwards.
-# And that's when I learned that I know how to play the game.

[sick chasm]

what

[upper cradle]

…

it could work ig

like a nice little secret

[sick chasm]

so this when

[wise stream]

Where is MASTER.IO

[verbal chasm]

this is master.io lol

it's just a custom solo game

[wise stream]

oh

thanks

[sick chasm]

what

[verbal chasm]

it's a google docs description and you're left to your own devices to recreate it in solo custom

[thick jewel]

probably never

looking back on this i now realize this idea was probably one of my worst

[slate oracle]

X+-RMX:
Gravity does not increase over time, and 8 garbage lines with hole on column 5 are injected into your board every 15 seconds.
Complete the following 20 tasks in order in 35 minutes:

1. Clear 40 lines
2. Reach B2B x50
3. Clear 5 spins in a single combo
4. Clear a S/Z-spin triple
5. Get 300K points
6. Clear 8 spin minis without doing any other clears
7. Clear a mini T-spin double
8. Send 100 lines
9. Clear an I-spin single/double/triple each
10. Perform a 8-combo
11. Clear 40 lines
12. Have more finesse faults than keys pressed for the past 10 pieces
13. Clear 65 spins
14. Have the top of your stack stay above the top for 20 seconds
15. Get 500K points
16. Clear 3 spins while only rotating counterclockwise
17. Send 65 lines over the past 10 pieces
18. Clear 2 S/Z-spin doubles consecutively
19. Perform a 8-combo
20. Clear 2 O-spin doubles consecutively and reach quad clutch

[thick jewel]

that's too hard tho

only one person has done the last one

i want this to be completable by anyone around S+ rank

and 110%-able by any SS rank or above

[limpid breach]

2 OSD...
how, no garbage lines there
I even think this should be something impossible if no ARE and SRS only

question:
is the final task(X-RMX) need to do it one by one?

[slate oracle]

Yep 🙂
At least in my mind yes

or it will be meaningless to write inclusive tasks

[limpid breach]

f
just tried X-RMX (skip task 8)
600k is too crazy
I failed A-rank requirement when still have 15-minute limit(start at 439,494(13:53.817))

[thick jewel]

uh here's the thing

levels go up over time in all stages involving scoring

[limpid breach]

oh

no wonder why

[thick jewel]

sshould i design an end screen for each stage

i think that would be cool to have that

let me break out mspaint rq

[thick jewel]

done. @verbal chasm how does this look

[verbal chasm]

still kind of like an uninspiring "checklist"?

[thick jewel]

no like

the little graphic i made

intended to be shown at the end of a stage

[twilit gyro]

the "survive n minutes under high gravity" arent good

theyre just stall simulator

high gravity should be either score or lines or specific clears

not time

time attack under high grav (e.g. 9-3) sounds like fun tho

and 8-X sounds like hell (i never tried master levels so like how would that work?)

it goes up to M20 how hard is that

[meager spade]

maybe smth like over () pps

[twilit gyro]

also im reading X-3 and HELL NAH JIGSAW YO TRIPPIN

THATS JUST JSTRIS SURVIVAL BUT FASTER

😭

i hope the reduced mesiness helps

lemme try it in zen

like i get it this isnt meant to be first-tried but like i can barely live for 20s

just did :40

god damn

[meager spade]

maybe not for s+?

[twilit gyro]

prob not

[meager spade]

🤔

[twilit gyro]

cuz like heres me trying X-1

[meager spade]

i mean X-RMX

[twilit gyro]

THE GROUND YOU STOOD ON NEVER EXISTED IN THE FIRST PLACE ahh mode

[meager spade]

💀💀

[twilit gyro]

heres one of the very well-thought out X-2 mode

Reach as high a B2B chain as possible in 8:00

i think i got either B or A until misdropping

also you mean not breaking b2b right?

also its allmini+

?

also does it mean leveling not mentionded = no leveling?

if yes then these are free

again, trying X-3

hell nah jigsaw u trippin

barely can live 30s

one more of X-3

bro this 50% mesiness is like

50% chance to be clean

and 50% chance to be the cheesiest shit on earth

[twilit gyro]

@thick jewel have you considered playtesting your campaign

im done with X-3

i"m just

done

i barely got 100k with heartmech spam (all default custom game settings (is that wrong?))

fym 200k in 2min to barely pass

[acoustic fulcrum]

you need levelling

[twilit gyro]

it was default custom leveling

i think its what was meant in the .rtf

my blitz pb is like

but i dont think it means blitz leveling for that

i mean it expliticly states its not that

its static 10-line leveling

and use 10 lines per level scaling instead of Blitz's level scaling, unless mentioned otherwise

[acoustic fulcrum]

can't remember if the default is 10-line levelling

[twilit gyro]

it is

X-4. Score 200,000 Points in 2:00 (C: 230K, B: 260K, A: 300K, S: 350K)

[acoustic fulcrum]

might just scale slower

will give it a shot when i get home in like 10000 hrs

[twilit gyro]

[thick jewel]

again

the balancing is not set in stone

what i made was just a template of sorts

also

a different way we could do the order of stages

have it be sort of optional

but you still need to complete all 7 normal stages before the boss stage

like this!

to unlock a specific stage, you must beat at least one of the stages connected to it on the left

with the exception of stage [#]-X, where you still need to beat all 7 levels

this way, if you can't beat a level right away, you can put a pin in it and move on

[twilit gyro]

5 should be in middle

instead of 4

because its kind of powerful by unlocking both 6 and 7

no?

[thick jewel]

ok some way i think it could be done

you can complete the levels in any order

and you only need to complete 6 of the 7 main levels to unlock the X stage

so if you're stuck, you aren't stuck forever

[mortal stirrup]

Imo every score stage should be higher and scores should works like 5M blast
I dont like PC looping for scores that much