a pause button

[vernal cedar]

Sometimes when I'm playing a solo match and have to do something, I have to leave the game entirely, a pause button would be really useful

[finite pike]

Just no - For blitz and 40L I will say is cheating as you have as much time to check the next few pieces

[idle skiff]

we can just dont add it into them

only apply for custom games and zen

[vernal cedar]

Well thats true
But like as @idle skiff said, for the custom games and zen

[finite pike]

well.. yeah

[idle skiff]

bothering things for osk is applying pause thing in replay lol

including .ttr

oh wait replay is basically ttr

[sacred orbit]

🤔 would just pause recording

[raven dune]

Then it's custom game only, because you can "pause" zen just setting gravity to subzero

BUT a keybind is still needed

[sacred orbit]

In what cases would you need to pause a custom game

[raven dune]

I don't know, it's literally custom, there are ∞ possibilities

[sacred orbit]

..name a few

[idle skiff]

setting gravity to subzero still doesn't pause engine

[raven dune]

But it doesn't record a replay either?

Oh wait you were talking about stats

Yeah

They are inaccurate after that

[sacred orbit]

If you want to preserve stats from gameplay, go to a custom game

[oak plover]

would just like to add that having a pause button can be nice for menu navigation because you can have a lot more options

[finite depot]

i have a solution on how pauses could work

lemme just check that it hasnt been said yet

yeah im safe

in tetris 99 im pretty sure if you pause it does not show you the queue or your board

and with the countdown

what i propose is when you press the pause key (esc for the purposes of this) the game fully stops and removes your ability to see the queue, hold, and potentially the board

and then once you unpause it plays a countdown of 3 2 1 and then when it starts you get the ability to see everything again

there, can we all get behind that or are there flaws in my idea?

oh, and for replays it would either just say when the game was paused or show THAT the game was paused for either as long as it was paused or just for a second or two

also, for controller compatibility, the pause button should be most commonly bound to the "start" button

like the + on the switch controller family, or for the ps4 the "menu" button

you get the gist

@idle skiff what do you think?

[idle skiff]

just started reading

[finite depot]

nice

[idle skiff]

great idea but i don't like making pause like tetris 99 thing like you said, would prefer making board visible while paused and instantly continue after unpause

it forces player wait additional 3 seconds, and they won't like it just how zen has too long entering animation to play

and good point with replay showing 'paused', i think it will be better if we add real time(doesn't pause) which is different from ingame time(current stopwatch)

[idle skiff]

also 3 seconds is already scam

there's no point hiding board when paused

[lyric epoch]

yeah, even on the switch you can just hold the capture button to record the last thirty seconds of gameplay to before you paused

that's no different on a windows/mac/linux computer

[tame minnow]

so which timer do we use for the tetra channel leaderboard?

[finite depot]

both completely fair points that i dont have a real solution for

[candid scaffold]

yeah bro brb
pauses a TL match

also you can achieve the same effect by setting gravity to 0 I guess, doing it in 40L is cheaty because you'd have time to come up with PCs etc

[finite depot]

yeah, i had my points disproved

[idle skiff]

we don't apply pause thing in 40L and blitz

[rugged yarrow]

Maybe just make the pause screen cover the entire board?

[tame minnow]

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[rugged yarrow]

Cover the entire board while it's paused, and just carry on when the player presses continue, no delay needed.

[idle skiff]

ah thats little different

in 40L and Blitz, pause is a problem

i mean uh

how do i explain

yes it allowes to cheat

[idle skiff]

this.

for example — in blitz, you can record your game and pause, find pc solve, and instantly do it and repeat

it makes "2 minutes" meaningless

stopping time when the time is an important thing
is already bad idea

[tame minnow]

maybe just dont pause the timer?

like allow pause but dont pause timer

[idle skiff]

what's the point of pausing then

also that could break game mechanics

[tame minnow]

hmm true

[crimson orbit]

well it would be noice in custom solo games ig

[rugged yarrow]

Hide the pieces in the pause menu

[lyric epoch]

did you read

[idle skiff]

talking about hiding is meaningless and he just said "simply just hide it" 😭

[heavy trout]

In terms of fairness, there's really only one way to solve that:

Pauses disqualify your run, much like Quaver will disqualify your run if at any point you pause, even at the beginning. Feel free to submit and share it, bit you void your ability to submit this to the leaderboards by pausing.

[tame minnow]

then what's the point of pausing

[lyric epoch]

pausing is viable in long-form games like zen mode or custom games

[crimson orbit]

pause online game :tr:

[lyric epoch]

i meant SOLO CUSTOM GAMES you see

[vocal frost]

pausing is cheating - every osumania player ever

[heavy trout]

To continue a run you left off on and intend on finishing, but not for competitive sake. The moment you pause is the moment it no longer becomes a continuous run.

Name me a game/community that officially and community-wise recognises runs that allows pauses, isn't the speedrun nor osu! games, who is governed by different rules entirely that allows for it (and besides, pausing is even frowned upon in rhythm games, and the osu! series is no different) and runs off IGT rather than RTA, which already discredits a bunch of RTA-based speedruns

[heavy trout]

That's a hill I'm willing to die on; you shouldn't be allowed to pause in rhythm games and be able to submit your replay to a leaderboard that doesn't account for it

[lyric epoch]

i can also name another good reason: people just expect the regular old "leave"/"restart"/"change volume here!" options in pause menus
i mean the instructions are pretty clear, but i've still seen people not know how to leave zen mode. in 40 lines, you can just top yourself out, but in zen mode? guess you can just topout over and over without the "chance to leave"
granted these people probably didn't end up even feeling the ESC key, but at the end of the day, when you wanna leave or retry, ESC is a good bet for pausing the game and accessing those features (not saying this replaces quick retry—but i'm sure it eases new players into midgame system actions like those)

[heavy trout]

I don't object the idea of a pause button at all, but it's the fairness aspect that has a talking point for me. It's actually a little funny to me that didn't this also get requested in the legacy channel, but worded entirely differently?

[lyric epoch]

i mean it was brought up back then for sure, but people were kinda on the same page lol

[heavy trout]

[lyric epoch]

i mean regardless this was already kinda set in stone a long time ago

infact there's those sound effects in the SFX atlas already

[tame minnow]

Would love to be able to change setting via the pause menu
The scroll wheel mouse to change volume (while holding alt if not in game) is not discoverable in any way

[south juniper]

Hi old forum

Just add pause into 40L and Blitz. BUT, when they pause, their play will not be submitted (invalid).
"What if I accidentally pressed it?"
Make a confirmation message box that says "if you pause, your run would be invalid, press [pause key] 3 more times.", "Are you really really sure you want to pause?" Press [pause key] two more times" and "If you press once more, your replay won't be submitted and your run would be invalid"

Stuff like that.

[trim bolt]

Like the earliest messages. What benefit would there be to adding pause to those 2 modes? Especially with the invalidating part. Need to be worth the time to implement

[whole viper]

Y'know, looking at this, being able to pause in Zen (and solo Custom Games) would be great, all you have to do is press a button as opposed to hovering over a sidebar, then changing gravity, ease of access y'know.

We already have undo in Zen too so, adding pausing wouldn't change it that much at all.

[chilly tide]

guys

just turn off gravity

in zen

its not hard

[heavy trout]

Playing games for an extensive period of your life will usually teach you that menus that allow you to change game settings is usually accessed via a pause menu or in an options menu, and not while live and hovering over a portion of a screen

Just saying

[gritty merlin]

Wait yeah so for example when you open the zen whatever tab just pasue the game

[lyric epoch]

i agree but ever since this got added in i haven't seen many people ask how to change zen settings

in fact there's been more incidents of people changing the kick table and then asking why their kicks don't work, or why the pieces are the wrong color, or why they're spawning upside down now

[woeful arrow]

there are two types of people in feature request

those who are normal people who upvote good posts and ignore bad ones