game-discussion

[honest silo]

I don't have Factorio.

[junior osprey]

Yea maybe am just clueless how to get good starting game impact in these farming type cruisers

I do really well solo in some ships like Vermont Venezia where I can run up relatively central or up a flank, make everyone shoot at me and 1 shot/cripple people at the start

[short wolf]

Almirante Cuckrane

[sweet latch]

I would say the biggest beneficiary of the cruiser heals are heavy cruiser and wannabe heavy cruisers like Nürn44 and Lanzhou

[blazing palm]

[livid bridge]

That doesnt fit at all wtf

[short wolf]

Almirante Cockroach

[wheat cobalt]

well if ppl shoot you
they don't shoot your clueless teammates

[honest silo]

But yeah I'm for rest I'm feeling better.

[prisma sigil]

Of course Mainz is going to be lower when it has double the amount of games played??

[livid bridge]

Me when t6 cruiser gets 30mm icebreakker

And thicc spaced armor

And superheal

[edgy marten]

me when the T6 cruiser has zero AP pen

or ballistics

and has only AP

[honest silo]

For the rest I'm undecided if get USS Black DD-666 or Moskva.

[short wolf]

Raimondo Montecuckoldi

[short wolf]

Black gameplay is fun

[livid bridge]

You need 0 pen at t6 to do everything you need

Ong

[short wolf]

Moskva is boring

[honest silo]

I see.

If I get USS Black it would be my third Fletcher-Class Destroyer tbh.

[short wolf]

Moskva can have disproportionate game impact when it’s tanking potential can be realized

Black is a cap menace

[untold thistle]

I can't believe I have to use independence to maintain my wr

Because Izumo keeps giving me horrible MM

[short wolf]

I miss RTS carriers

[honest silo]

Like Laffey?

[untold thistle]

I want them tbh

I like top down view games

But oh well

Wows blitz has rts carriers at least

[short wolf]

Yeah, it is a cap bully

[untold thistle]

(im not playing that shit)

[short wolf]

Really?

[untold thistle]

Yep

[honest silo]

I see and nice.

[wheat cobalt]

death

[tawdry turret]

Playing Art of War smh

[untold thistle]

Even has the same tiering as rts carriers

[untold thistle]

Command and Conquer

[livid bridge]

No wonder the worst wows has the worst mechanics

Ong

[short wolf]

I have fond memories of angling torp drops on top down map and dev striking a lot of targets

[tawdry turret]

so true

[untold thistle]

They still have camos that boost the ship's performance

[honest silo]

So I should go for USS Black DD-666 guys?

[livid bridge]

So it fits even more lmao

[untold thistle]

Also manual secondaries

[livid bridge]

Bro we are 3/3

[untold thistle]

Secondaries that can also be AP

[honest silo]

Come va _Kowatari?

[short wolf]

Do you play Ranked?

[eager pumice]

looks at event pass
gets foca
never plays it

[honest silo]

Yeah sometime.

[sweet latch]

so why is Belfap down there in the gutter. It has a lot less games.
By your braindead logic it should be up at the Tiger59 level

[honest silo]

I do for the major Randoms.

[tawdry turret]

sto bene

[livid bridge]

It can foca off

[untold thistle]

Nay

What the hell do subs even do in operations

[honest silo]

Buono a sapersi.

[untold thistle]

I see them using planes

[livid bridge]

Imagine being a valpepe

But you never get shot

So you cant die

Unless you really tryhard throwing your ship away

They got a plane yes, so they can target shore installations

[short wolf]

Black excels in Ranked or competitive modes where spotting and controlling cap zones is the key to winning. But it’s also been power crept with the TT Paneuro Gdansk line.

[livid bridge]

It hits ships

Much better than shore installations as well

[honest silo]

I see.

[livid bridge]

Plus it spots

[short wolf]

I live near Foca…

[honest silo]

But well I honestly never played Pan European ship outside of Elli, Kalmar and Regel Carol I alpmighty.

[livid bridge]

It will spot enemy ships for you at will plus easily hits 10k drops

Meanwhile I tried using it 3 cooldowns in a row to kill a 700 hp airfield

[untold thistle]

I should bring Aki to Ops

[livid bridge]

And had to gun it down in the end

[short wolf]

Do you like Gdansk line? DDs equipped with Radar and workable guns?

[livid bridge]

Cuz it full missed twice and 3rd time it dropped the aa installation instead of the airfield

[honest silo]

No idea, never grinded it.

As I have 0 Pan European Tech Tree ships.

[coral herald]

ORP Piorun when

[livid bridge]

gdansk
workable guns

Among

[sweet latch]

LMB works

==> workable guns

[livid bridge]

Jorkable guns

[short wolf]

Well, if you are not in a hurry you might want to check out the Gdansk line first… Black requires very similar gameplay

[sweet latch]

guns kill DD, thats enough apparently

[eager pumice]

ASIA HALLAND VS ASIA SHIMAKAZE
INTENSE BATTLE

[livid bridge]

AL Halland when

[untold thistle]

Are they gunfighting

[short wolf]

But if you want to decide now, ask yourself if you want a cap bullying DD which can smoke up and fire up her radar to ambush the enemy team DD. If your answer is yes, sure, get Black. @honest silo

[scenic osprey]

Wg buff Richthofen

[eager pumice]

one is AFK and the other might have no CE

[honest silo]

Just look at it or grind the line?

[untold thistle]

There's no Halland in AL... Yet

[sweet latch]

17900 Shima?

[short wolf]

I would grind to the mid tiers if I were you to see if I like that kinda gameplay

[livid bridge]

I am aware, when added

[untold thistle]

Buff the bombs

[livid bridge]

EU tree in AL fr

With AL Blyska and AL Halland

[scenic osprey]

Rockets pls😔

[untold thistle]

Do you want a Colossus situation

[honest silo]

I see and understood.

[short wolf]

@honest silo Alternatively go on YouTube and watch that some Black or Gdansk line replays

[scenic osprey]

I don't know this situation

[sweet latch]

how colossus was the situation

[honest silo]

Regarding that I honestly like cap contest with DD as I do that with my Laffey.

[honest silo]

I will.

[untold thistle]

Colossus AP rockets devstriking cruisers in one strike
Got nerfed
Can still do it

It's funny to see

[scenic osprey]

Im not about that actually. I would buff their hp and utility

[untold thistle]

Utility in what way

What are the utilities of ap rockets

[scenic osprey]

These are very specialised and require very specific conditions

These require afk croozers and soft Cvs

Mostly Ineffective against dds and bbs

[honest silo]

And thanks also. @short wolf

[short wolf]

Glad to be of help

[scenic osprey]

Especially if they hide behind an island

[short wolf]

Ocean is clearly the best map in the game

[untold thistle]

Don't even remind me of ocean

[scenic osprey]

Its a CV actually

[untold thistle]

I've never gotten ocean in months

And when I div

I got ocean

[scenic osprey]

I played Preussen in ocean

😔

[untold thistle]

You could be a cruiser in ocean

[scenic osprey]

Ah yes no islands to sniff

😔

[sweet latch]

you could play Ocean on Ocean

[scenic osprey]

Ah yes double ocean

You get 5000 gold if you match these

Killerbin will personally credit you

[pearl shuttle]

I am liking the russian cruisers. Well at least up to t6 since thats what i am at.
Fast car + good reload + torps. What else wuld you need?
Tho the citadel damage to cruiser is not that punchy, good reload makes up for it.

[scenic osprey]

Ohama

[pearl shuttle]

May have unrealistic expectations when it comes to cit damage tho since well. I citadeled cruisers with monty.

[scenic osprey]

Entire map is counted as citadel

[honest silo]

One question guys.

[sweet latch]

the "new" T5 is trash compared to Kirov, Budy still one of the good T6

[short wolf]

Actual contemporary naval engagements never involved hiding behind islands and firing over them

[sweet latch]

fun fact - Königsberg can citadel both russian T5 (cruiser and BB) -- with HE

[short wolf]

For AP performance you need to get Tallinn and grind that line

[pearl shuttle]

Ye i do intend to grind the petro line

The alternative line doesn't look at all apealing to me tbh

[grizzled coral]

dont you just love it when a stupid cruiser rushes your BB and eats 6 hot shells straight to the citadel that instantly 1 shots it?

[sweet latch]

overmatch is a stupid mechanic and needs a rework

[ancient monolith]

could be replaced by what?

[sweet latch]

don't have to be replaced just rework it like IFHE has been

[honest silo]

Hey nyanko.

Pretty much in game we have three Omaha-Class Light Cruiser USS Omaha CL-4, USS Marblehead CL-12 and Murmansk former USS Milwaukee CL-5?

[sweet latch]

since WG put a Kuma at T10 I wonder when we will get a supership Omaha

[short wolf]

Murmansk literally rotted from lack of maintenance in Soviet Navy service

Apparently Russians aren’t big on maintaining stuff

[honest silo]

Yeah the same for HMS Royal Sovereign.

[sweet latch]

ummm Murmansk participated in convoy escorts throughout the entire war

[short wolf]

And the crew clearly never bothered to keep her ship shaped

[hidden bay]

And RS wasn't maintained in her last year because she was going to be scrapped anyway.

Up to 1948 she was operational

[short wolf]

Or perhaps they lacked the resources

[hidden bay]

For RS yes, they did

[sweet latch]

same with Mur

she even sailed back to the US on her own

[hidden bay]

Didn't help the fact the lubricants and oil's provided by the RN didn't work in the Artic

[honest silo]

Oh, wow.

Didn't know that.

[short wolf]

“The Soviets returned the ship on 16 March 1949 in poor condition. She was filthy, and being infested with rats and cockroaches, was immediately fumigated. Being unfit for any kind of further service, Milwaukee was immediately sold for scrap to American Shipbreakers in Wilmington, Delaware on 10 December.”

[honest silo]

Yeah.

[sweet latch]

just like all Omahas were sold for scrap

[fringe crow]

The Omahas were very much on their way out by the end of the war

[honest silo]

Hey AthenaRaindance.

[fringe crow]

They were only used as frontline units in the Dutch East Indies and the Aleutian Islands

[sweet latch]

in fact Murmansk thanks to being in soviet service avoided scraping for another 5 years compared to the other Omahas

[honest silo]

I see.

[livid bridge]

In other news
New MechWarrior 5 Mercs DLC dropped

https://tenor.com/view/battletech-batchall-jade-falcon-mechwarrior-gif-23519332

[short wolf]

I also looked into the machinery spaces of Admiral Kuznetsov when it was drydocked. It was filthy. Whereas in Liaoning, which Russians sold to Chinese, you could literally sleep on the floors of the machinery spaces. Clean and well maintained.

[hidden bay]

They were provided because the USN and RN didn't need them but their crews could go to more useful ships. RS was already not in the best of shape when provided to the SU. Even after her refit in the states.

[livid bridge]

Cave in some clanner heads once again, the dlc

[edgy marten]

Sounds like the cleanest IJN submarine

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1465058641878192160/image.png?ex=6a17e7ef&is=6a16966f&hm=8d4b56793abab1eb63c7bdd84ae8bae870302605d155eeedaea9ae3b8e2f7b54&

(I400 moment)

[short wolf]

Damn

[hidden bay]

Ships in active use get dirty pretty quick

[short wolf]

AFAIK, toilets and sanitation was also rudimentary on the IJN subs

[edgy marten]

yes

[sweet latch]

U2501 moment

[edgy marten]

And American subs did have AC, iirc

[honest silo]

Wow.

[edgy marten]

Which IJN subs didn't

[sweet latch]

https://tenor.com/view/seseren-azur-lane-gif-16116597433134610326

[short wolf]

My town actually hosts a WW2 era US diesel sub, the living spaces aren’t too bad

[rustic hearth]

🗣️ game discussy

[honest silo]

Nice.

[honest silo]

Hey Swifacid.

[hidden bay]

When no ones using them and its kept clean by the staff.

[rustic hearth]

hii

[short wolf]

USS Tang

[hidden bay]

I forget where I saw it, but when U-Boats were returning from patrols, they were asked by the shore bases, to open all the hatches on their return to port to air out the subs.

[steel pier]

U-1296 moment

[hidden bay]

Because good lord you stink after several weeks in a Type 7

[short wolf]

Tang would make an excellent premium sub

[honest silo]

Wow, that's really nice.

[honest silo]

I agree.

[steel pier]

i mean, generally. the crew on all german subs waited for when a hunt was done, they could surface and fresh air get into the boat

[short wolf]

Wardroom photo

[hidden bay]

Out in the Atlantic yes, but the run back through the Bay of Biscay they built up a smell due to doing most of it underwater

[spring verge]

Good afternoon Bin

[tawdry turret]

that lad who sunk a ship with his shit

[steel pier]

depending on the time period

[tawdry turret]

I furgur

[hidden bay]

Good morning.

[hidden bay]

Correct iirc this was from 43/44

[steel pier]

and enve then, some commanders often risked it

[spring verge]

Any fun facts for us today?

[hidden bay]

My AC works a treat.

[steel pier]

and gave the sub some brief moment of ventilation

[honest silo]

With all honest I like a lot USN ships both irl and in game regarding history also alpmighty.

[honest silo]

Nice.

[spring verge]

Wonderful

[honest silo]

Hey BloodEarth.

[honest silo]

That's still USS Tang?

Or no?

[steel pier]

well, thats what i said earlier: U-1206

[fringe rover]

hmm

Svea, Burger, or Ragnar?

[steel pier]

but not directly with the brown stuff, but by simply press the flush button

and not waiting for the engineer to press it, being trained in this new system

[tawdry turret]

yes

[rustic hearth]

oooooooo

[steel pier]

reminds me of nowadays, where we often want new solutions, bring them hastily and then cause more trouble then before

[steel pier]

yes, the glory of the Regia Marina

[honest silo]

Oh, nice.

[honest silo]

I would say Burger.

[steel pier]

wanne know, what this is swiff?

[eager pumice]

my team
has a div
of no SE no CE DDs
asia meta wild
Wait
3/4 of our DDs are no CE or SE

[livid shadow]

dont need SE if i am never spotted

[short wolf]

Seeing how she was transferred to the Turkish Navy by the USN, she could actually serve as a pan euro sub as well, similar to how ex-USN Velos is a thing

[rustic hearth]

tell

[steel pier]

most my DD captains dont even have enough points for SE right away

[honest silo]

True.

And I agree.

[honest silo]

@short wolf What do you think?

[steel pier]

Type 32 Surface Radar (Heavy) and its funny, even in Kancolle the symbol on this card has this shed on it

i shall farm the Shed

and install on all my heavy KC ships

[light harbor]

It's yellow winrate

Sound the alarm

[short wolf]

I like the WW2 and post WW2 USN ship design philosophy

[honest silo]

Hey cross_my_heart.

[steel pier]

-USS Long Beach enters chat-

🥀

[honest silo]

Same and I agree.

[short wolf]

TCG Pirireis, ex USS Tang

[rustic hearth]

hmm

[honest silo]

Oh, nice.

[short wolf]

Turkish Navy retired her from active duty in 2004

[light harbor]

Ragnar if you have a 16 point captain

[steel pier]

looks funny, but also like a new good radar for the IJN, if it entered service earlier

[radiant olive]

https://discordapp.com/channels/669128285527080961/1508847955430609136/1509088957995028591

[light harbor]

Hm?

[steel pier]

IJN Ships, some german ships, Regia Marine, MNF and RN. the best out there

[short wolf]

The new TCG Pirireis is a German Type 214 uboat

[light harbor]

I don't really know enough about sub skills to comment

[steel pier]

*submarine

[honest silo]

Also US Navy one with all honesty.

[steel pier]

the term "uboat is outdated in the 21st

[honest silo]

Oh, yeah I see.

[steel pier]

shoooo

[radiant olive]

just give your opinion on whether or not you think they're too good or not

[short wolf]

We licensed the design from you my friend, it is what we say it is

[steel pier]

no?

[radiant olive]

this is iteration 1, so up for debate

[steel pier]

uboat are the older WW1 ones, who dont really stay underwater

modern ones are submarines, made for underwater conflict

[short wolf]

Alright alright you win

[steel pier]

and i also doubt, you are british (the term comes from them)

[steel pier]

infact, Type XXI is also already a Submarine

[bright ingot]

I forgot how this works, if the Gonzaga shows up in the first bundle, that means it would get pulled on the first try rigtht? or am I wrong?

[short wolf]

Elektroboote

[eager pumice]

I should make my username something like asians_play_to_lose at this point

because they seriously do

[hidden bay]

Yes, it means you get the ship.

[steel pier]

but a Submarine regardless

[honest silo]

Oh, congratulations and very lucky.

[eager pumice]

No SE / CE DD divisions

mass midrushing

[bright ingot]

Ok cool, this has never happened, so I was just making sure. LOL

[hidden bay]

What you see is what you get.

[eager pumice]

absolutely insane meta ngl

[short wolf]

Yeah, I built a Type XXII model kit back when I was in school

[honest silo]

Nice.

[short wolf]

Clearly influenced the post war diesel subs

[steel pier]

do the VIII and X Sub also show up in thoose bundles?

[steel pier]

soviet S-189

its a litteral copy

[short wolf]

Yeah, NATO designation was Whiskey class

[plush parrot]

@hidden bay did we not have any in game cruisers in that battle?

[scenic osprey]

😭

[ancient monolith]

lauria is insane, 4 shells 16k dmg at 19km lol

[boreal fable]

I jsut love Mon 👄

[plush parrot]

who were the 2 shadowing it with radar? didnt Hampshire showup at the end?

[steel pier]

NATO designation, like us codenames for IJAAS PLanes is 👎

i go with project numbers

[short wolf]

They are confusing

[hidden bay]

None of the cruisers involved are in the game.

[short wolf]

And I’m more used to the NATO designations in my own prior experience

[steel pier]

isnt this abit of a shame? no Dorsetshire, no Suffolk

[scenic osprey]

So my grandfather never had 60 k avg dmg serving on the buffalo?

😔

[hidden bay]

One day perhaps.

[steel pier]

now back to the crates the other guy mentioned, with Gonzaga, they also can contain the 2 remaining Italian Subs? VIII and X

since the event not there for me yet

[plush parrot]

well thats next years new ship then 🙂

[hidden bay]

I'm not up to speed on the Italian Sub EA, so best to wait for the dedicated article.

[steel pier]

there are 2. Dorsetshire and Suffolk

[plush parrot]

Dorsetshire - thats the one i was thinking of.

[steel pier]

butr Suffolk tracked Bismarck

give her some love

godammit

[hidden bay]

Suffolk and Norfolk shadowed Bismarck before Hood and PoW engaged.

[short wolf]

Regrettably not, even if he got the damage numbers he definitely wasn’t camping

[plush parrot]

being a London Born Man i Suck at UK counties

[hidden bay]

Engaging one of those cruisers is what broke Bismarck's forward radar.

[steel pier]

ok, now we get 3 ships next year

Norfolk, Suffolk, Dorsetshire

[plush parrot]

though TBF Devonshire and Dorsetshire are quite close ... Geographically

[hidden bay]

https://tenor.com/view/arbiter-were-it-so-easy-halo-difficult-gif-16171194

[honest silo]

Hey HerewardTWake.

[steel pier]

although Dorsetshires torps didnt ultimately sink Bismarck

[plush parrot]

Mornin'

[hidden bay]

thems fighting words

[short wolf]

Bismarck disconnected and as a result the opposing team overcame her with ease

[honest silo]

One question guys.

[steel pier]

i mean, Ballard himself examined it and came to the conclusion, there had been flooding internally, which is supportive of the engine room sea valve opening

[livid bridge]

If you bully someone to the point they ragequit then you are still the one that mogged them

[hidden bay]

I know, I jest.

[livid bridge]

Pulled the plug, left without a gg

[viral fjord]

hmm

[short wolf]

Sad that Bismarck shared the fate of Graf Spee

[austere mango]

Bin, next Armchair admirals when ? And you are still on that panel, even if you are out of Community work, right ?

[viral fjord]

discounted commanders

[hidden bay]

You would have to ask the Austrian when the next one is.

And whether they wish to invite me.

[livid bridge]

Waow a discount on commanders

Insane

[hidden bay]

Improved Commanders too

They're blues

[austere mango]

Their wish doesnt matter, only our wishes... 😄

[livid bridge]

I dont think that happend before

[plush parrot]

Beatty for coal???

[viral fjord]

[steel pier]

but, we never would have found out, without the good work of Ballard. his book is also the source, for my usn wreck models built of Quincy and Monssen

[trim flax]

Ngl one of my favourite ships is sms seydlitz have you heard the story

[viral fjord]

lmao

[steel pier]

well. already own Franz von Hipper (would be shamefull to not have him in my ranks)

[hidden bay]

The great shame is how deep she's in the mud, so we can't see if any of the below the waterline survives

[trim flax]

Same he’s very good

[trim flax]

True

[hidden bay]

Yes, he is.

And he can't make your ships more likely to detonate

So thats nice

[viral fjord]

subs now early access

[light harbor]

Until the return of the detonation mechanic in a new brawl

[narrow karma]

lmao fatass maine beached and ate 6 torps

[steel pier]

at least she is still upright. i mean, Fuso and Kirishima all sit upside down. and no, this isnt the conning tower fault, bismarck also tumbled upside down on her way down, just as Fuso and Kirshima did

[livid bridge]

I wonder when we get an actual early access 🥀

[hidden bay]

Oh I like many others are stunned at just how intact she is

Given her end, and the fact she slid down a mountain.

[steel pier]

20k gold? Fck My Lif

[viral fjord]

or just wait till its on TT

[trim flax]

This is sms Seydlitz it sustained much damage in the battle of Jutland but it survived and lived to fight another day, its a remarkable story

[steel pier]

i mean, she would have prob imploded on her way down too, if the internal flooding didnt happen

[viral fjord]

if you want micca only

[steel pier]

best Kaiserliches BB

[livid bridge]

[hidden bay]

I agree, her condition means she was full of water by the time she sank

[steel pier]

i want all 3. i have Foca already

[austere mango]

Thats weird. No discount on my Asia alt account ?

[trim flax]

Yes I agree so is the kaiser, konig and also the derrflinger

[viral fjord]

its not out yet on asia

[austere mango]

Ahh, you on your EU/NA account ? Traitor 😄

[livid bridge]

accidental new dlc for W3 leak?

[viral fjord]

its called spying in NA

im no traitor komrad-

[steel pier]

i mean, just look at the stern section of Titanic. there was so much air, since she submerged with the wide open front end and the massive reciprocating engine room, generator room and turbine engine room, giant spaces, filled with air still and the results were pretty devastating on her

[grave pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/everything-is-fine-this-is-fine-everything's-fine-titanic-sinking-gif-15180514611862427509

[steel pier]

oh wait? i get 2 guns, plus reload boost consumable? this is gonna be fun

[trim flax]

But when it comes to kriegsmarine ships in my opinion Germany shouldn’t have built bismarck although its badass, the kriegsmarine didn’t have a good enough surface fleet to back it so personally I think Scharnhorst and Gneisenau were better ships as they were faster and more reliable do you agree?

[eager pumice]

What's so fun about intentionally losing games
What am I missing out on that other Asian WoWs players know

[trim flax]

@steel pier

[steel pier]

thats not, how the lights went out

[eager pumice]

these people are rushing mid, parking full broadside, bringing divs on non-CE/SE DDs
as far as I can tell this is intentional play to lose

it's both teams btw

[steel pier]

the issue is: their original plan was to wait and not open war up untill 1946 (the "Failüre's" words not mine) so i honestly not wonder

[austere mango]

Allways good to see what the official designated final betatesters/guineapigs NA players gets...

[steel pier]

your puny reactions dont scare me m8

[viral fjord]

i forgot lanzhou now has heals 💀

lmfao

[hidden bay]

Ahhhhh Plan Z

Or Plan ''Lets hope the British do absolutely nothing''

[trim flax]

Yes plan z was also a possibility, in my opinion they should of focused on lighter vessels such as light cruisers and destroyers, they should also build more pocket battleships and Scharnhorst classes

[livid bridge]

I ended half my games in nurn and yorck yesterday with 3 heals left

[trim flax]

@steel pier

[austere mango]

Just hope the pharmacy is open... Oh wait... Thats Plan B...

[grave pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/himouto-umaru-chan-anime-umaru-doma-fear-me-cute-gif-17706006

[steel pier]

simple. dont go to war

but hey, as we know from Clausewitz: "War is only Bloody Politics and Politics are unbloody War"

[trim flax]

You could argue that but the German land forces were the finest but they lacked oil, imagine Italy found oil in Libya maybe it could of changed the tide of the war who knows

[livid bridge]

They were the finest...

but

[austere mango]

Weird.... Cant get my bounty status

[hidden bay]

Finding oil and actually using it are very different things.

[steel pier]

but the finest isnt always the best. allies were simpler: "overwhelm with mass" and it worked, so yeah

[trim flax]

yes I know that they had there failures like attacking the Soviet Union( cough cough)

[austere mango]

Any other Asia players with the same problem ?

[trim flax]

Soviet Union ahhh 💀

[hidden bay]

Almost none of the Oil fields the Germans took produced any usable oil for the Germans.

[livid bridge]

Question is if they had any successes

[steel pier]

thats why, we used the Facility we nowadays know as BASF Schwarzheide, which is infact only one town over from mine

[hidden bay]

Ploesti, wasn't even running at full capacity for most of the war.

[livid bridge]

Cuz uh not really

[trim flax]

yes they did 700 k encircled in Kiev etc

[hidden bay]

Plus all that libyan oil has to get pumped to probably Tripoli, loaded onto Tankers and then shipped across the Med.

Right past say....... RAF and RN forces on Malta?

[austere mango]

@viral fjord You on your Asia account ? Can you try to get your daily Bounty status bundle ?

[steel pier]

i say, lets not indulge too much on overthinking it all

[hidden bay]

There's a reason Germany invested so much in Synthetics

[steel pier]

i say, our ships were nice ones, as were many warships of the era and this is all i must know

[hidden bay]

Also Gerhard, question. Did the KM ever use any synthetic fuels?

[livid bridge]

Surely kek

[nova reef]

can anyone point me towards a preussen secondary build

[steel pier]

like said above: BRABAG (Braunkohle-Benzin AG) in Schwarzheide, the biggest german Facility for just this

[hidden bay]

Frankly Preussen is far better set up as a tank. Leave secondaries for the Schieflen line

[nova reef]

are you sure?

[boreal fable]

Give san martin the des moines leg mod and it's the best ship in tehg ame ngl

[hidden bay]

Extremely

[boreal fable]

Ah yeah use main guns and tank build on that

[boreal fable]

I'd recommend this, only 14 points should be achieveable

[livid bridge]

If you desperately want a preussen secondary build then there isnt much to it

3 skills related to secondaries, pick them all, rest is vibes

[nova reef]

ahhhh i see i see

thankyou

[frosty cedar]

i would recommend take swift or turret travers, aa is a joke anyways. It will just help you more

[livid bridge]

The 2 pointer is not an AA skill smh

Its a cooldown reduction skill

The AA part could not exist and it would still be a gud pick

[frosty cedar]

yea IF your AA is shooting

[boreal fable]

If (when) cvs bully you you jsut get your heal back quicker for free, seems better than quicker turrets to me ngl

And if you have a sub on your flank and the entire red team sends planes at it? Guess what you jhave your heal quicker now

[sweet latch]

since you would run secondary Preussen only in PvE you should follow the PvE guide

remember to swap IFHE

[eager pumice]

there is a vague and passing sense of guilt

[honest silo]

How is Ferrante Gonzaga guys?

[tawdry turret]

melts everything that is light

by which are DDs

[frosty cedar]

if that happens yea, if a cv focuses me he wil anyways kill me as sad as it sounds, if i dont have the positioning, i just die. vs you have faster turrets == faster response always. I mean on a preussen we dont need to talk about swift , but on other BBs its maybe a pick

[tawdry turret]

and CLs

[lone delta]

it is like super DD as he goin 39 knots almost have good reload for a cruiser it is super fast and good invisibility almost 9 km spot range but low armor and have a citadel coz its a damn cruiser

[frosty cedar]

why the larger guns on GK for ops btw?

[lone delta]

guys is coop worth it? i mean it s good for farming damage if you have combat mission like shipyard

[sweet latch]

for the higher salvo weight and the reload difference isn't relevant enough to outweigh it compared to FdG

[lone delta]

but you having only 50% of possible farm exp and cr

and i hate wg that they removing assymetrics matches

[livid bridge]

Co-Op is by far the fastest for missions

And stuff like credit farm

[frosty cedar]

i mean for randoms the dif is enough to take the 406s, just not an ops player so i was curios

[gaunt saddle]

Co op is good for many dockyard missions that require X amount of torp hits, citadels, etc.

[austere mango]

Assym was allways a temporary gamemode. WG, due to feedback, put it back for a limited period. Post feedback here : https://discord.com/channels/669128285527080961/1463584965437689989 asking for it to become a permanent gamemode.

[coral herald]

Roussillon is unbelievably bad

Shot five salvoes at a flat broadside chios at 5km

None of them was a 10k salvo

Utter dogshit garbage

[gaunt saddle]

Rous usually doesnt play at close range

[coral herald]

I was so desperate with dispersion at 15km

[gaunt saddle]

She should be fighting at mid to long range

[coral herald]

WOOOOPOW

Wooooow

Reealllyy????

[gaunt saddle]

Umm... did you look at the ship's stats at all?

[livid bridge]

Hmmge, t2-t5 ops towards the end of the year, so somewhere in the summer we might get the unique commanders update for pve modes

Or hardmode ops on anniversary

[coral herald]

If that's a ragebait, fine

But if you're genuinely asling me that question, answer is yes I have

It's my second most played ship

It's genuinely the most frustrating ship I have ever played

Fucking garbage

[sweet latch]

for PvP it's mostly personal preference what you run on GK. Both options are valid.
For FdG you should always run the 406 option no matter the game mode

[gaunt saddle]

I mean, the first complaint is using a ship in a situation where she doesnt do well in

[coral herald]

Okay, I refuse to fall for this kind of trap

You clearly have seen what my point is

[livid bridge]

I like to fall for traps

[gaunt saddle]

What if I disagree with your statement

[delicate hound]

hmmmm

[deep swan]

[delicate hound]

sibir is still totally not busted lol

[livid bridge]

Well yeh it isnt

Kremlin but less tanky for cope f key

[coral herald]

Nothing happens

I am here ranting

Reasonably though

[livid bridge]

All quiet on the happening front

[coral herald]

Rous is shit

[delicate hound]

kremlin may be tanky but she is alergic to fires

[livid bridge]

Since when

It has a great dcp to deal with fires

[delicate hound]

only 5 without leg mod then 6 with leg mod

[honest silo]

But it's still a Cruiser?

[delicate hound]

charges i mean

[livid bridge]

Idk why would you need more

[honest silo]

Oh, nice and thanks.

[livid bridge]

Unless you spam R key for single fires

[deep swan]

you have a CV on your ass all game perhaps

[eager pumice]

when the 17900 shimakaze spams commands at the start of the match

[delicate hound]

also what do you even use bounty tokens on?

[eager pumice]

gg reds

[gaunt saddle]

Lot of ranting for a ship you play alot

[livid bridge]

Idk I have 0

[livid bridge]

Have you met a polish femboy

[deep swan]

camos, mostly
you can get 2 free gambles too

[livid bridge]

[delicate hound]

is it normal to nuke a full health petro out of existance with 1 salvo ?

lol

[deep swan]

[gaunt saddle]

[steady remnant]

Am I not understanding the Italian sub early access event correctly or is there no way to get any of them in early access without spending money?

[livid bridge]

T6 in battlepass

[deep swan]

the T6, but that's from the event pass

[gaunt saddle]

Same as previous early access.

Low tier free

High tier pay money

[livid bridge]

Thankfully I will not reach lvl20 battlepass

So I wont get a sub

[honest silo]

Hey Your_SAT_Score.

[livid bridge]

😌

[honest silo]

Hey Joebob.

[gaunt saddle]

Hello

[steady remnant]

Oh I see the T6 but, likke...the T2 etc, you just can't

[obtuse ferry]

you get the t6 from the event pass

[deep swan]

yeah, only $

[obtuse ferry]

T2 is not in the early access

because there is no T2

[deep swan]

least generous EA event by far

[livid bridge]

Thats ok cuz its subs

[deep swan]

[steady remnant]

Sorry I am being dumb, I meand the micca 2, but I do see the T6 now

[honest silo]

You guys suggest to save the only 3k Doubloons I have left?

[obtuse ferry]

what would you use it for?

[coral herald]

Rust in salt you stupid piece of shit

[livid shadow]

What is that ugly ass camo

[honest silo]

15.5 Containers and Premium Battlepass.

A part the Trade-in.

[livid shadow]

Also stupid to sell

[coral herald]

I have no intention of keeping such garbage in my port

[limpid cipher]

is sete de septembro released >

[livid shadow]

Well your loss

[gaunt saddle]

https://tenor.com/view/let-the-hate-flow-through-you-sidious-palpatine-star-wars-gif-15849844

[coral herald]

I don't mind 'losing' a garbage that fails to hit a broadside at all ranges

[honest silo]

But yeah this pretty much.

[coral herald]

It was the best carwash service my opponents received

[viral fjord]

I didnt really wanna paint a target on me tbh

[livid shadow]

You get free resourches twice a year

[sweet latch]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-enterprise-comfy-gif-15911843209757146295

[livid shadow]

By simply having it in port

[coral herald]

I can just buy another tier 9 from TT

Not a huge loss

I just can't stand seeing that shit in my port anymore

[rustic hearth]

[livid bridge]

But the yearly 80 steel!!!!

[gaunt saddle]

Nah, just let him live with his ptsd

[livid bridge]

In only 20 more years you will get almost as much as a single battlepass from your snowflake rewards

[sweet latch]

[weary cobalt]

is radar mod on the EU gunboat line worth it?

[honest silo]

But for the rest Ferrante Gonzaga is a good ship?

[weary cobalt]

will the 2 extra seconds make teammates pay attention?

[gaunt saddle]

Useful for more anti DD focus since you get 1 more salvo

[livid bridge]

Idk I remember radar mods being kinda bait for dds

[weary cobalt]

i see

[gaunt saddle]

But not useful for team play outside divs

[viral fjord]

low quality illegal

[austere mango]

Your photoshop skills need to be improved 😄

[viral fjord]

i technically did that one badly on purpose

[austere mango]

Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.... 😄

[honest silo]

Hey AALG.

[viral fjord]

got lazy

[lone delta]

why you sold a dockyard tier 9 premium ship. she isnt that bad

[austere mango]

Back to paper and crayons, mate... 😄

[viral fjord]

better than using AI generated

🫡

[coral herald]

To me she is. After more than 130 battles I have lost all respect for that ship

[steady remnant]

Hey thanks for taking the time to answer my sub EA question btw. I appreciate you guys being in here. Just thought I would share that

[austere mango]

True that.

[coral herald]

Worst 9000 doubloons I have ever spent

[lone delta]

what her feature dissapointed you most?

[austere mango]

Ohoi Andrea

[coral herald]

Dispersion

It failed to punish so many broadsides

[gaunt saddle]

🤔

[coral herald]

Absolute disappointment

[steady remnant]

You are probably playing it too far away

[coral herald]

The other guy told me I was playing too close

[livid bridge]

You are playing it too much

[gaunt saddle]

Only in that specific situation

[coral herald]

I have tried everything, even rangemod out of despair, to maybe improve the vertical disp just a tiny bit

[steady remnant]

Oh ok. Usually if I think a ship is trash..it's me doing something with it it's not itended to.

[coral herald]

Nothing helps

[obtuse ferry]

You are more than welcome to ask questions, we ofc can try to answer them if we see them

[livid bridge]

But have you tried secondary build

With slot 6 aux mod

[coral herald]

[gaunt saddle]

[coral herald]

If I played it a little more maybe I would

[obtuse ferry]

Rous is also compensating with the fact that you have MBRB

[coral herald]

MBRB my ass

[obtuse ferry]

I don’t want to mbrb your ass thank you

[coral herald]

Get two disappointments in 15 seconds

[coral herald]

:(

[livid bridge]

Lie

[gaunt saddle]

Rous gets battlecruiser dispersion

[austere mango]

Baz, any known issues with the Bounty status ?

[gaunt saddle]

Its much better than your typical BB

[livid bridge]

You totally want to mog him with your mbrb

[coral herald]

I think it's overrated, with 1.7 sigma you're kinda like petro at 15km

Missouri with 1.9 sigma and BB dispersion is so much more consistent for instance. Rous gets those railguns and horrible AP horizontal plane

Maybe that's the issue

[sweet latch]

https://tenor.com/view/clair-obscur-expedition-33-e33-verso-yeah-it's-true-gif-10988850435640300487

best build

[honest silo]

If not wrong guys, Roussillon is a sniper?

[coral herald]

Supposedly

[livid bridge]

Me when horizontal plane is an abysmal way to judge accuracy

[honest silo]

I see.

[coral herald]

It was just an assumption, fair to judge

[gaunt saddle]

Statistically you get better dispersion with bc accuracy over 0.2 sigma

[fickle grail]

I see that I am not the only one noticing something changed on the Rouss

[deep swan]

Rousillon allegedly has some of the best horizontal dispersion and vertical dispersion in tier

[coral herald]

And the most weird thing is that rous has similar statistics with JB

I must be cursed or smth

[livid bridge]

Its just a significantly better JB

[coral herald]

First 30 battles I played with it were insanely, good then it was a downhill roll

[deep swan]

probably cursed

[livid bridge]

Not much to it

[fickle grail]

In fact it has the same dispersion than the alaska minus the sigma, and better dispersion alltogether than the duncan

yet the rouss feels bad. Few hits, wonky dispersion, not enough damage

[honest silo]

Hey Eviscerador.

[deep swan]

did you make your account over an ancient indian burial ground while breaking a mirror under a ladder?

[coral herald]

No. Maybe WG saw me enjoying rous too much and they cursed me

[fickle grail]

the Rouss was my ship of choice for t9 ranked and in this season I just ditched her, too unreliable. I've got better results with the Jean Bart

[livid bridge]

If rouss was american we would have PQ Wisconsin arc 2.0

🥹

[ancient monolith]

I thought it was in an indian pet cimetery

if possible next to a cat tomb

[coral herald]

Maybe if not for his video I wouldn't be lazy and have grinded for Wisconsin actually

[ancient monolith]

you also need to sacrifice a chicken

[coral herald]

PQ is to blame, trust

[upper wyvern]

ranked is too small to play things that aren't good at brawling

[coral herald]

The only thing I liked about roussillon was catching DDs in the open and reload boosting that cracked HE to smash them

But AP was horrendously disappointing, low damage and weird overpens or torp protection hits on flat broadside cruisers made no sense whatsoever

[livid bridge]

Ranked is bad for ships good at brawling ngl

[gaunt saddle]

Accurate enough to hit DDs, but not BBs. Gg

[coral herald]

Really? How come

[fickle grail]

Au contraire, ranked gives you space to play a proper flanking BB like Rouss. Getting flanking shots is easy, the problem is that you don't get any damage because dispersion is shit

[livid bridge]

Cuz you try to brawl and run into a ship insane at brawling and you just auto lose to a valpa

Unluck

[fickle grail]

and you can't get closer because you have no armour and terribad DPM

[coral herald]

I guess it comes down to shooting DDs which usually get spotted at 8km? Alsoz HE doesn't care about accuracy, it's not like I was hitting 9/9 shells on DDs. Even 3 shells were usually enough to smash rhem

[upper wyvern]

valpa doesn't want to brawl at all, that's how you get a free valpa dev strike

[coral herald]

Oh, right. Tier 9 ranked

[livid bridge]

Ig brawling means show full flat for no reason now

What a year

[fickle grail]

Valpa gameplay is easy. Never fire the rear guns, point bow to enemy, farm damage, outlast them

[coral herald]

Finally, a ship you can play with one hand and win every game

[upper wyvern]

the closer? the closer you get in valpa the worse off you are

either you get driven by or rammed, both are bad?

[livid shadow]

why would one of the most manouverable bbs in the game not want to brawl?

[fickle grail]

rammed in an oversized destroyer? how so?

[livid bridge]

Why would you allow a driveby or a ram in cruiser handling ship

Among

[upper wyvern]

im on like a 30/0 drive by valpa in ranked record

it's the easiest ship to do it to

[coral herald]

Brawling is sitting 12km away and letting AI gunners melt BBs

Trust

[livid bridge]

Well, it is?

[coral herald]

It's like a libertad getting "close quarters expert" at 15km

[livid bridge]

Brawling doesnt mean w key until you run face first into a driveby

[livid shadow]

[coral herald]

Yeah, but it usually involves something like strtegic plnning or other forbidden skill felonies

[tight ruin]

half of the players in WOWs meltdown when they realise they can't torp rush

[coral herald]

And the worst thing is that valpas don't get punished by submarines, which are supposedly good at striking stationary angled ships

[livid shadow]

3 sec dcp cooldown

Gg

[coral herald]

Rite, forgot that one

[upper wyvern]

they're punished by subs that dont use homing torps

[honest silo]

Of what you guys are talking about?

[coral herald]

Valparasite

[livid bridge]

Valpa punished by torps

Lol

[honest silo]

Oh, ok.

[livid bridge]

Let me just 360 breakdance around your torpedo and sail away

[gaunt saddle]

If you are Paolo Emilio, then yes

[livid shadow]

someone should try to grind silver only yolo emioling

[livid bridge]

I think you can almost get valpa rudder to be same as Paolo rudder

[coral herald]

GP__1 probably did that with minotaur

[livid bridge]

Curious

Unlucky outmanouvered by a BB

[coral herald]

They should probably remove the built in prop mod from valpa

[gaunt saddle]

Valpa needs buffs then, rudder too slow

[coral herald]

Outsmarted

[grim portal]

valp needs french speed boost tbh

[gaunt saddle]

Also needs Thor's speed boost, with 20 min duration

[weary cobalt]

in my first shimato game (a blowout downtier) i did 37k damage and it's still above 50% of player's performance in this thing

[livid bridge]

New type of speed boost that also buffs rudder

[untold thistle]

also needs austin reload booster

[weary cobalt]

didn't realize it's that horrible

[livid bridge]

This will be a consumable at some point

Bet

[gaunt saddle]

Also partially because no reason for good players to play her

They just skip to Yodo

[coral herald]

And why not give it an icebreaker too? Clearly chileans would love to prepare it for antarctic invasions or smth

[honest silo]

Hey TheSpreadsheet.

[untold thistle]

no

why stop at an icebreaker

give it a ram bow

[sweet latch]

why stop at a ram bow?
give it bow torps

[weary cobalt]

the Yodo is the same but at 2 tiers higher

[gaunt saddle]

Replace her bow with a 2nd Valparaiso

🙂

[weary cobalt]

same dogshit DPM and the torpedoes beign like the only good thing

[gaunt saddle]

Yes. You play the line for memes

[weary cobalt]

this ship could get german HE pen and still be bad

[gaunt saddle]

And there is no memes to be had at mid tiers

[weary cobalt]

my turrets can do a 360 in the time it takes to reload

[limpid cipher]

on what hull is based almirante irizar ?

[gaunt saddle]

So all the good players just skip to Yodo

Then all the poor peasants grind the line as normal, and drag the average down even further

[sweet latch]

New Model

[honest silo]

That's of the Heavy Cruiser line?

[livid bridge]

iRIZZar

Rah

[gaunt saddle]

That being said, I dont think Shimanto is horrible, just normal bad

[livid bridge]

Its very comfy to play

AL Shimanto ?!

[gaunt saddle]

Yodo is CL line

[weary cobalt]

155 mogami is tier 8 like shimanto

[upper wyvern]

did you have to kite much @ancient monolith, was a close game there

[rare schooner]

Found 1 build for Wukong!

Source Document: wo.ws/builds

Click the button(s) to open a build.

[wheat cobalt]

Yooooodo

Yodo is the best CL

ong

18 guns

🔥

[upper wyvern]

give zao yodo torps

🔥

[pseudo sparrow]

Hmm, Wukong got a heal now, is the build old? SI shood be the right choise now?

[sweet latch]

155 Mogami is yet another outdated ship - should have been ported over and buffed into the CL tree

[gaunt saddle]

Take SI since she has a heal

[honest silo]

Oh, ok my bad.

[honest silo]

Hey TankGuffen.

[upper wyvern]

once upon a time mogami was the best t8 cruiser

[deep swan]

imagine if the CL line had the 155 in the new turrets instead of the 150s

[gaunt saddle]

Though tbh its easier just to not play Wukong

[pseudo sparrow]

Hi Andrea, nice to see you

[viral fjord]

execution

[wheat cobalt]

give Yodo nevsky ballistics

[pseudo sparrow]

yea, thinking the same, thnx

[hard geyser]

stop putting %40ers in T10 matches - limit them to T6 max

[upper wyvern]

and then remove nevsky

boring to play in randoms, boring to play in comp

[wheat cobalt]

give yodo 12km radar

[livid bridge]

Give yodo manual secondaries

[sweet latch]

uge

[pseudo sparrow]

WG will rank on ships not performance, so if it will not change this will never happen.

[upper wyvern]

t10 queue times would be abysmal

[gaunt saddle]

Give Yodo Aki bombers

[viral fjord]

okay chat needs to calm down-

[shell temple]

Weak superbattleship WG

[pseudo sparrow]

The new heal is so good, its possible to play lvl 8 again

[hard geyser]

lvl 8

okay

[livid shadow]

0 damage gg

[shell temple]

WG pls buff Maine

cant kill entire team

[livid bridge]

Yorck having heal is making me act unwise

[wheat cobalt]

I still prefer Patrie and Satsuma

over Maine

[shell temple]

I also prefer Patrie

[livid bridge]

Much w key pressing

[shell temple]

though I see why Maine is so highly rated

and I dont really like Satsuma

[upper wyvern]

affondatore will be the new click people meta soon though

[livid bridge]

Super BBs are generally preety sleeper

Just T10 car again

[gaunt saddle]

Ushakov

[shell temple]

https://tenor.com/view/dawg-skull-emoji-gif-24661581

Affondatore looking at a Minotaur

[honest silo]

Hey OOGABOOGABOOGAOOGA.

[thick quarry]

hi

[unique heath]

what the build

[thick quarry]

is 200% comander xp gone
?

[rare schooner]

Found 1 build for Collingwood!

Source Document: wo.ws/builds

Click the button(s) to open a build.

[unique heath]

thank you

[plush oxide]

surprising that collingwood gets the standard rn tank treatment

[weary cobalt]

this ship is so ass

the previous t8 cruisers i didn't like had like shit surviablity or other unpleasant characteristics

this one would be perfectly serviceable if it's reload was like 5 seconds shorter

[edgy marten]

don't worry

...it gets worse

[weary cobalt]

hey at tier 9 i get one more heaal and the relaod mod

[edgy marten]

you have Takahashit to look forward

culminating in Yodon't

[gaunt saddle]

Takahashi is more of the same

[weary cobalt]

that surely makes up for the even worse MM

[livid bridge]

Noted, passed to the dev team, torp reload buffed by 5 seconds

[gaunt saddle]

Shimanto is probably the best ships in the line now tbh

[weary cobalt]

i could be grinding out the hindenburg instead

[livid bridge]

I am doing another hinden regrind

I should pick another line

[thick quarry]

?

[livid bridge]

Like uhh

Maybe cerb regrind idk

[weary cobalt]

the t8 on the cerberus line was very ass in my opinion

[livid bridge]

Already did yodo, hinden, mino, goliath regrinds recently

[gaunt saddle]

Yes for now

[sweet latch]

SM regrind - PAIN

[livid bridge]

Only the T7

[edgy marten]

Almirante Cochrane is designed to help people scream, yes

[livid bridge]

Oh ye I did that too recently

[edgy marten]

and so is Bolognesi

[tawdry turret]

I'll include the 8s and 9s

[livid bridge]

I wont

T7 is the only stinker

[edgy marten]

T8 and 9 are somewhat playable

[livid bridge]

Rest walks in nicely

[edgy marten]

unlike the T6

[livid bridge]

T6 walks in extremly nicely

Goated armor

Actually best armor in the whole line

[sweet latch]

the T7 is so bad I didn't enjoy the following ships any more

[eager pumice]

Cochrane exists to give the enemy Fuso a free citadel ribbon, heal up, and then give the enemy Fuso another free citadel ribbon

[sweet latch]

how can you even fuck up a Fiji that much

[eager pumice]

(Actually the spaced armor is fine)

[livid bridge]

Why would you get cit in Cochrane

[eager pumice]

(It's just lol an experience)

[livid bridge]

You have icebreaker

[eager pumice]

My big issue with Cochrane was honestly that it did no damage

[livid bridge]

And unhittable cit when normal angled

[eager pumice]

That was the real problem

Like you'd land 100+ shells for 20k

[livid bridge]

Walk in harder into them cruiser botters

And torp bb

[sweet latch]

I mean you play the Pan-Ams to do no damage with the guns

thats like their whole gimmick

[edgy marten]

no

[sweet latch]

you do nothing and just can't be killed in return

[edgy marten]

T8-T10 have almost acceptable gunpower

or, well, ballistics and gunnery

[livid bridge]

The DD dispersion is really nice

[wheat cobalt]

bro

NUMANCIA

[edgy marten]

no one plays it, yes

[livid bridge]

Stop gooning numancia

And wait for spanish commander

[wheat cobalt]

oh ye

[livid bridge]

Edge until then

[wheat cobalt]

alvaro commander

[sweet latch]

add 6k HP commander - so balanced

for DDs

[wheat cobalt]

6k?

9k

[livid bridge]

67k

[pseudo sparrow]

Wukong is still just bad, but better with the heal, missing dpm and utility, just make other lvl 8 curisers better.

[wheat cobalt]

it's 3x 3k procs

[livid bridge]

I mean nothing changed for cruisers

Everything got heal so

The ones that were bad compared to other cruisers are still bad yes

[sweet latch]

and Wukong is like bottom of the barrel

no clue what WG was sniffing back then

[livid bridge]

It wasnt the year of the
of the cruiser back then

[sweet latch]

give up everything that makes French cruisers work for.... TRB?!

[wheat cobalt]

yas

torpeda

[sweet latch]

15.5 patchnotes - time to see what BP hold......ehhh Arizona

no thanks

[deep swan]

yeah because the shells have 0 pen
you shatter on broadside Omaha at 10km

[livid bridge]

Just dont be that far

Be at 5

[sweet latch]

for the 250th birthday you could have gone with something relevant for the US.

Like De Grasse

[deep swan]

unfortunately the Omaha is exploded before you reach 5km

[livid bridge]

Just be at 5 before it spawns

[deep swan]

and when you're against T8s you only pen at like 4km, which is a bad idea

[sweet latch]

https://wowsp-wows-eu.wgcdn.co/dcont/fb/image/tmb/4e2bb6c2-590c-11f1-816e-005056902a5f_1200x.jpg

Art team carry again

[austere mango]

Look in Omaha's general direction, whisper harsh words at it, and you have citadelled it.

[weary cobalt]

what is the Iwami good at

[austere mango]

Its very good at emulating a submarine...

[weary cobalt]

you are fcking hilarious

[blazing palm]

do you mean by having a lot of torps?

[livid bridge]

Iwami was great at making me stop playing BBs for 3 months

Simillar to i think yesterday

With Bismark41

[austere mango]

That too.. Although they dont work when she is emulating a submarine

[weary cobalt]

okay but like tell me what the ship actually does

[livid bridge]

Mr Barkond do you mind a smol technical question btw

[sweet latch]

close to mid range ship to do hit and runs against isolated targets

can brawl a bit but don't stay in a fight for long

[weary cobalt]

T8 does NOT have acceptable gun power

and it has no armor

[austere mango]

BTW, any known issues with the Bounty status bundles ? Cant get it..

[blazing palm]

It has a lot of guns and long-range torpedoes

[honest silo]

What ship is that? Ohio?

[blazing palm]

So it's basically a back line BB

[tame kiln]

try relogging?

[sweet latch]

not sure I would call 8 guns "lots"

[weary cobalt]

the yoshino of BB

lovely

[tame kiln]

or get it from https://armory.worldofwarships.asia

?

[austere mango]

Have tried. Vanilla client, no mods, done check and repair.

[honest silo]

What BB??

[sweet latch]

its anything but Yoshino

[deep swan]

You didn't happen to claim bounty status within the last 24hr, did you?

[sweet latch]

you shouldn't stay back with Iwami

[austere mango]

Not on this account.

[weary cobalt]

okay so like who

[sweet latch]

Hizen and Daisen are your backline sniper

[weary cobalt]

who should i listen to here

[livid bridge]

Gamble

[obtuse ferry]

Only just saw this, I am not sure

[weary cobalt]

tbh mainly jsut wondering if tmy Yamato captain works on it with no issue or is it a secondary build or sth

[livid bridge]

Pick a person to listen to and its rng if its gud

[austere mango]

Its my alt account. No issues on the main. Thats what is weird.

[sweet latch]

If you have Kii - Iwami is pretty much that one tier higher

[austere mango]

Have relogged, done check and repair, vanilla client.

[obtuse ferry]

Could very well be that armoury is/was having issues

Did you try browser armory?

[austere mango]

Nope. let me try it there.. moment.

[sweet latch]

I think its Ohio but the camo should work for all T10 ships

[livid bridge]

Baz I also require some minor assistance

Is there some hidden difference between camos? Cuz I have a permacamo from an event assigned on two ships, on Buffalo the Default camo discount is gone, but on Minnesota it stayed

[deep swan]

Iwami has decent guns, but only 8 of them. Secondary build isn't great because the range on your secondaries isn't very good and your cit is a bit large. It does technically work though

[austere mango]

Same issue on browser, with the alt account.

[deep swan]

Did you get one of those camos before the big econ rework?

[livid bridge]

[obtuse ferry]

Because bionic is a paid camo that’s purchasable, and the one on minne is not

I think the discount applies to first purchasable premium camo available for the ship

[livid bridge]

Hmmge

[obtuse ferry]

So the bionic one fulfils the condition

[livid bridge]

I wasnt aware it distinguished that

[obtuse ferry]

Ok, will check and get back to you

[deep swan]

On ships I got the camo on before the econ rework the discount is gone, even if its not a camo you can buy

[livid bridge]

Also its not an eagle camo, its smushed 😛 emoji camo

[austere mango]

Alt account is ArmsAndLegsGuy on Asia.

[obtuse ferry]

Looks like

[livid bridge]

Also I wasnt aware that permacamo prices changed

[raw skiff]

Baz, if I backed the Cruisers book project yesterday (day1) and I change my pledge now (increase), will I still get the gold card and retain the right to vote for the ship on it?

[livid bridge]

T10 one is now 4k not 5k before discount

[eager pumice]

Honestly 4000 doubs for a permacamo that is purely cosmetic is not a good deal

If the ship defaults were all a couple of hundred I'd see the appeal

[livid bridge]

Well the first one is

So

9-11 is 200 dubs

5-8 is 100 dubs

[eager pumice]

Isn't the default permacamo for other tiers like 100

Yeah

Why is T10 specifically pricey

[livid bridge]

Its 200 dubs

For first purchased one

Just next ones are 4k base

[eager pumice]

Is that how it works?

[livid bridge]

Yes

[eager pumice]

why

[livid bridge]

To match the pre-rework prices

It used to be 5k per t10 permacamo with bonuses