game-discussion

[lucid wagon]

The amount of complaining last year despite the actusl generosity of wg was insane

[bronze flame]

mr i hate ur opinion. its fine to give ppl something cool from time to time

[lucid wagon]

Only like 3 free tier 8s 32k dubs and a free tier 9 ontop of that

[whole meteor]

wg fomo btw

[bronze flame]

not everyone have 10000 premium ships and the dough buddy

[severe plank]

let me trade in my champagne for belfast I think that would be a fair trade

[lucid wagon]

What is your definition of ‘cool’

Musashi?

Smolensk?

[whole meteor]

lmao

let me trade in my gk for a thunderer

[lucid wagon]

True

[whole meteor]

and then complain thunderer is bad

btw

[lucid wagon]

Yo why can’t I trade in Okhotnik for Surcouf

[whole meteor]

because it has a citadel

[lucid wagon]

This game sucks

[bronze flame]

1 old ship ur making it seem like its gonna be the rarest shit ever

[whole meteor]

why cant i trade in my marblehead for a kitakami

grrr

wg fomo!

[lucid wagon]

Because your complaint basically was wg is not giving away RARE ships thst RARE and COOL

[analog jackal]

im gonna trade my aki

for mainz

🐱

[whole meteor]

🐱

[lucid wagon]

thus by the same logic it already is the RAREST SHIT EVER

like I don’t get it

[lofty gorge]

Wow I don't think I've ever been more ragebaited then with the P.Heinrich.

secondary ship that has less range on it's secondary then Bismarck or even scharnhorst.

[lucid wagon]

This trade in lineup is incredibly strong ship wise

[severe plank]

why can't I trade in my missouri for an actually useful ship like suzuya

[rustic hearth]

🥀

[lucid wagon]

And yet becsuse it isn’t rare giga megas shit from 90 years ago

[bronze flame]

not really its more ur putting ships that are already discounted

[lucid wagon]

It’s ass

[analog jackal]

is cambridge in the trade in?

[lucid wagon]

How is Mainz Monmouth or any of those ships discounted

Wuh

You get it for cheaper in the trade in which is the entire point

[analog jackal]

L wargaming L, gatekeeping the best ship in the game

[light harbor]

No matter how much the superheal buff helped Monarch, the guns still make me want to cry sometimes

[bronze flame]

bait

[lucid wagon]

L Wargaming gatekeeping Arkansas Beta from my account (I started 2 months ago)

[lucid wagon]

Me when I have no argument (must be bait)

[severe plank]

https://tenor.com/view/that's-bait-fishing-thats-bait-time-to-go-fishing-dark-souls-gif-12687109592345272249

[bronze flame]

pov u dint read what i said

[whole meteor]

this is like the average boomer mindset

[lucid wagon]

“Ur putting ships that are already discounted”

[whole meteor]

🥀

[lucid wagon]

So either this means that for it simply being on sale it’s shitty discounted bulk ware

[bronze flame]

which are?

[lucid wagon]

Or you somehow believe trade in ships are more expensive then the.. shop ships.

[lucid wagon]

Ok so how is for example, Monmouth discounted

[severe plank]

boomer? what like the special infected?

[bronze flame]

i dint say those ships

[lucid wagon]

If I trade in Sun Yat Sen I get Monmouth for cheaper then I’d get Monmouth by buying it with my own money

But those are in the trade in?

Both ships I just listed are trade in ships

[bronze flame]

ima go wait for the italian stuff i mentioned kaga i 56 btw dntknow what ur on about

[lucid wagon]

Ok bro

Btw Kaga and I-56 have been in trade ins

As well so uhm

[severe plank]

wonder why eugen isn't trade in

or at least not in this one

[lucid wagon]

Because who wants eugen bro 😭😭😭

[severe plank]

me (real)

[whole meteor]

still prem eco

[lucid wagon]

I love how when trade in come around everybody complains no matter what

Annoying

[elfin vapor]

it is best to just ignore some people in this discord 😉

[lucid wagon]

Wait mostima

Did you see the Asashio vs Orkan argument

[whole meteor]

no

[severe plank]

the whar argument

[light harbor]

...the what?

[lucid wagon]

Lel

[severe plank]

uhh

[boreal fable]

wow minoboy

[lucid wagon]

I was actually giggling during that entire argument

[lament birch]

mmm

these teams dumber than a rock

[boreal fable]

Maybe if the orkan is stern tanking and the asashio can shoot all it's guns

[whole meteor]

942

[light harbor]

Claiming Asashio outguns anything is already a bold take

[whole meteor]

;_;

[boreal fable]

Yeah for ship xp not base xp

[lucid wagon]

They started to argue that Orkan can be outtraded by Asashio in a gun fight

[severe plank]

spongebob failure sound effect

[whole meteor]

isnt that worse

[boreal fable]

No?

[whole meteor]

cuz ship xp is bxp + prem account

[boreal fable]

You can get a 1600bxp game and get 800 ship xp (I have)

[lucid wagon]

The argument went from Asashio hits harder -> Asashio can spot Orkan, get into a kiting position, and fire on Orkan before Orkan spots back -> no dude Orkan cannot spot back unless he has super predictive radar (said predictive radar is radaring something that out spots you) -> Asashio can do it if they have RPF

[whole meteor]

rpf assahio

[light harbor]

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[severe plank]

nah orkan wins any gunfight because it has a sec gun

that's a fact

[boreal fable]

I didn't have prem for that entire month 💔

[severe plank]

not the radar

[light harbor]

RPF my Halland Asashio

[untold thistle]

so, operations also has bot-like teammates

[mental sundial]

radar mentioned

[whole meteor]

how does this work

[untold thistle]

fucking hell

[boreal fable]

What thats crazy

[boreal fable]

Dunno fams

[untold thistle]

i lost this game because the danu had the wrong target priority

[whole meteor]

waht

[lucid wagon]

50% taxes

[boreal fable]

Play a tier 10 TT boat with no modifiers or prem

It happens man

[lucid wagon]

I can indeed go test for it right now

[whole meteor]

how can ship xp be lower than BASE xp

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-question-mark-no-idea-gif-gif-25959482

[boreal fable]

I'm like decently positive it's happened to me

[lucid wagon]

Evil poor person tries to gain sympathy from rich nice & respectful person 🫩🫩

[severe plank]

spare xp?

[whole meteor]

my brain isnt braining

[lucid wagon]

Why does M. Colonna have such a massive smoke plume

[boreal fable]

Elderly person unwraps his birthday present 😭

[light harbor]

One of her gimmicks

[lucid wagon]

Oh because one of my clan mates did it and legit blinded us all

[light harbor]

IIRC Sicilia has the same 'big' smoke

[lucid wagon]

“I didnt know”

[light harbor]

I'm not sure if it's really relevant

[lament birch]

mmmm and another loss cause my DD just straight up leaves the game after getting shot once

[lucid wagon]

Could be camera bug

[light harbor]

Div mayhaps?

[whole meteor]

only in a div

and if you have enough hands

[lucid wagon]

Ok I’m gonna test this dudes claim

[whole meteor]

[lucid wagon]

Of having less xp then bb

Which is impossible

[whole meteor]

can you invite me

ill play one game

[light harbor]

Sure

Lemme load the game back up

[lucid wagon]

bruh

triple epoxy div

and 2 satsumas

and a moha member

[whole meteor]

gg

poi the merciful

[river dune]

[lament birch]

omfg and i get a small supershitter match

[lucid wagon]

bro

i got the entire fucking Supercoomer league on ,e

[light harbor]

If you want to join there's one slot left

[lucid wagon]

faaaaccckkk

[mental sundial]

where’s my div invite

[lucid wagon]

WHY IS MY AKI 15.8KM DETECTION

YO

WHAT

LMAO

[whole meteor]

cooked

[light harbor]

If you ask for one

[lucid wagon]

HMM

[mental sundial]

im not gonna beg

[boreal fable]

Okay and?

[whole meteor]

neverdiv

[boreal fable]

Literally seems perfectly fine to me

[mental sundial]

I know my worth 😤

[boreal fable]

Oh noo my bb specked tank instead of conceal... okay and

[lucid wagon]

its a no commander Aki.

[whole meteor]

OH NOOO

[light harbor]

That's okay, I know my worth too

[whole meteor]

you missed the triple dd gaming

[boreal fable]

I spy survivability expert

[lucid wagon]

yo i do not skip CE on like anything

there is 0 chance i got a commander on ts

also who the fuck takes SE on a BB bro not me

[boreal fable]

???

[lucid wagon]

SE is for losers

[boreal fable]

Self report moment

[lucid wagon]

nope

you reinvest it into CQC only

[minor merlin]

c columbo any good?

[mental sundial]

nah it got nerfed

[boreal fable]

Literally insane

It got buffed

[lucid wagon]

being entirely deadass i do not take SE either way on ANY battleship

[boreal fable]

yk Survivability expert doesnt exist on bbs lols

[lucid wagon]

Yes it does

[boreal fable]

Really? go show me

[lucid wagon]

we're just spoting lies right now

[mental sundial]

gn chat i love Fine Motion

[lucid wagon]

ok lol give me a second

[tawdry turret]

y

y be a masochist

[vague cedar]

Why not? /s

[boreal fable]

Have you found it?

[minor merlin]

yodo any good?

[boreal fable]

no

[minor merlin]

is c columbo any good without leg

[boreal fable]

Yup

[lucid wagon]

oopsies

yeah

[boreal fable]

lmao

[tawdry turret]

[lucid wagon]

notice the SE icon

on Kremlin

just admit ur wrong

[elfin vapor]

played 2 games and already closed the game due to boredom 🤣 need more than real money gambling events

[boreal fable]

Nice edit job lmao

[lucid wagon]

not an edit

you just dont want to admit ur wrong

[river dune]

you're good, i'm actually in bed lol

[boreal fable]

Bring back focus fire training 🙏

[lucid wagon]

thats an edit

[boreal fable]

Yeah ight buster

You're right

[tawdry turret]

okay lil bro

[lucid wagon]

yeah

finally admitted it huh...?

[boreal fable]

Okay could you show me ingame tho?

[untold thistle]

how many players are on EU rn

[boreal fable]

Just for interest

[junior osprey]

It's one of the t10 crosers that's for sure

[boreal fable]

my kremmy doesnt have that

[tawdry turret]

She could just edit it with a pic

[junior osprey]

T10 crosers of all times

[lucid wagon]

edited once again btw

[analog jackal]

how broken is cheshire?

[boreal fable]

Sure palster

[boreal fable]

Do it then

No balls

[minor merlin]

should i be using mainly sap or ap of columbo

[boreal fable]

sap

[river dune]

SAP, unless you get something flat broadside

[boreal fable]

Only use ap if those pesky cruisers try to broadside you

[minor merlin]

ty

if i dont get 200k damage this first match i will give you

1 aa flag

[boreal fable]

Okay deal

[atomic plume]

Imagine a heal on Charleston

[minor merlin]

these gun angles are VERY nice

[whole meteor]

@light harbor im out of btl

genuinely sickening

[lucid wagon]

why do people play Jager

[light harbor]

That was definitely a game

[lucid wagon]

what happen

was it a game for the books

[light harbor]

It sure was

[whole meteor]

kearsarge got peeded out by jager

then our full hp rossiya

and cerb

[lucid wagon]

dying to jager without accompolishing anything?

[whole meteor]

couldnt kill a marco polo

[boreal fable]

Somebody should play lighthouse kitakami for the memes or smth

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

genuinely maddening

[lucid wagon]

@boreal fable yo dude i dont think its possible

chat jager torpedoes are so good it took him 37 torpedoes to kill me

gg

[boreal fable]

HMm interesting

[lucid wagon]

literally just farming torp hits on me as i dropped his utrecht colombo among others for free

lmaoo

jager players vs being useful

jager vs being usefil

[lofty gorge]

I'm still trying to figure this out, I'm playing the P.heinrich and so far I've been unuse on what ammo to use, As AP feels like it really doesn't do a good job and the HE while doing fairly good damage does feel fairly ehhh

[sweet latch]

AP, but Heinrich is rather suffering overall. But good news. Zieten will be a noticeable upgrade

[pearl shuttle]

Not a visual one.

[honest silo]

Good morning guys.

Hey CastorTolagi.

Hey SymboliRudolf.

Hey Royalty_Business.

Hey cross_my_heart.

[pearl shuttle]

Hewwo AndreaArmaArmageddon2!

[lucid wagon]

Hello

[viral fjord]

that is fucking insane

[hybrid sinew]

@dreamy badger u dare speak to me ingame

with 47% winrate

[pearl shuttle]

wawa

[strange mulch]

Wow, look at big man over here

[hybrid sinew]

@dreamy badger its less than tossing a coin hahah

[honest silo]

Hey AbyssalTitan.

But yeah I feel better then yesterday at last.

[junior osprey]

Wit bbs it's usually ap all the way

[sweet latch]

that was only true some 8 years ago

[junior osprey]

Especially this low tier car where it has overmatch apparently

[pearl shuttle]

Im doing an experimental treatment that is sopose to fix brainlessnes. Want to try it?

[sweet latch]

before the RN BB

[hybrid sinew]

sopose?

[junior osprey]

Well wit a t6 shi that has 380mm and German low dmg He, is there even any scenario where one should shoot He?

[pearl shuttle]

bbs shuldn't shoot HE unless its british.

[sweet latch]

there are german BBs that shoot HE

[pearl shuttle]

Blasphemy.

[sweet latch]

I know crazy concept

[junior osprey]

But he asked about that Heinrich thingy in particular, it's not like I've played it or even know anything about it lol

Aside from its stats

[honest silo]

Hey 300IQandPR.

[junior osprey]

Hi

Thinking of playing ships later today

[wheat cobalt]

skibidi

[junior osprey]

Hihi

[wheat cobalt]

mfw last week of missions for zh tomorrow

[honest silo]

Yeah I do.

[viral fjord]

greetings

[wheat cobalt]

I can get zh

[viral fjord]

also 18kms secondaries is fucking broken?

[wheat cobalt]

and then complain about it

[honest silo]

And also hope to do Better then yesterday.

[wheat cobalt]

alo

[honest silo]

As I went a bit too hard on myself with all honesty yesterday.

Hey Polish.

[wheat cobalt]

alo

[junior osprey]

@wheat cobalt Ive been thinking maybe I'll try to improve in the game a bit

I'm already watching the reviews from gang for example, idk what more I can do? Maybe specific ships to play that can express skill better?

[wheat cobalt]

https://tenor.com/view/dog-alo-hello-phone-call-gif-20320635

[honest silo]

G4ng video?

[eager pumice]

minor headache

[honest silo]

Hey InterconKW.

[lofty gorge]

Huh, Really? I saw on google it was being called fairly good, Then again alot of the posts stopped around 2024 so I guess powercreep

[junior osprey]

Yea for reference how to build ships and general gameplay

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I'm watching them for improve.

[lofty gorge]

past british BBs which are HE

and maybe Italian BBs which have SAP mostly for cruisers and DDs

[honest silo]

In Randoms.

[eager pumice]

hello

[sweet latch]

its okay, but nowhere near top dog Gneisenau level

[lofty gorge]

True

I've been unimpressed with it and wondering if I was just not playing it right or something

[livid shadow]

You shoot sap.at dds not ap. No?

[pearl shuttle]

what

Did a Genisernau cult form when i was not looking?

[lofty gorge]

BB's shooting AP at DD's feels like an unwise Idea, SAP works better I do believe.

[junior osprey]

Me also but I feel like I'm hitting a wall

[sweet latch]

the only ship that tops Gneisenau is Nelson - and she is removed for good

[lucid wagon]

maybe youre just as good as you can be

[junior osprey]

Granted I don't play a lot anymore

[honest silo]

I see.

[lucid wagon]

Just dont be like Red Supersoldiers Cash1942 and Footgoo

[junior osprey]

Nah don't say that, I only have like 7k games I'm still new trust

[lucid wagon]

7k games? beginner!

[honest silo]

I instead had a rought day yesterday tbh.

But I hope to do Better today.

[pearl shuttle]

When you have reloaded guns, you don't swich ammo, you just shoot.
And by the time your guns reload again, there is a large chance ddisgon

[honest silo]

I wouldn't SymboliRudolf.

[sweet latch]

SAP like AP only deals 10% Alpha damage to DDs if the caliber is >280mm

[haughty juniper]

why wg add extra cd to bb's 3-5

🙁

[wheat cobalt]

idk

I just game

[lucid wagon]

what do you mean as a unicum player you dont train 12 hours a day

in the trenches of training battles and CBs

[wheat cobalt]

no

I avoid cbs

[lofty gorge]

Well yeah if you got AP loaded shoot it, But if you got HE loaded at the time, shooting DD's with it is the best use

[lucid wagon]

just run sansonetti bro

magical shell switching

[wheat cobalt]

based

[lofty gorge]

I'm playing the P.heinrich, Sansonetti isn't german

[pearl shuttle]

Majority of bbs, exept like italian and british, will have AP loaded at all time

[junior osprey]

Sometimes not so cuz ap never saturate for dds

[lofty gorge]

Yeah

[pearl shuttle]

Broadsides don't catch themselfs ✨

[junior osprey]

If your bb has poor he alpha it's not always worth to switch he for dds

[junior osprey]

Are there ships that are better to improve skill expression?

I feel like the wall I'm hitting is literally just a lot of losses I feel I can't do much about

[pearl shuttle]

Valpra clearly.

[untold thistle]

or if your bb has poor he alpha, just stay on ap even on dds

[wheat cobalt]

happens

[untold thistle]

for example

meck

[untold thistle]

try sevas

[wheat cobalt]

oof

nuked

by bot

[lucid wagon]

MrBeast?

[untold thistle]

no

[junior osprey]

Lol it apparently don't like multiple images

[untold thistle]

because of the mrbeast spam bots

[wheat cobalt]

it doesn't

[sweet latch]

4 is fine - more get nuked

[lofty gorge]

I totally forgot the P.heinrich can face tier 9.

yikes

[wheat cobalt]

death

[lucid wagon]

P Heinrich v Musashi

mega fair

[wheat cobalt]

tbf

[lucid wagon]

dont worry this time youre like

120k off of the EU record

YOU GOT THIS!!!!

[wheat cobalt]

T7 vs Musashi is just

[wheat cobalt]

thanks bestie

[lucid wagon]

that one game was actually tragic tho

[junior osprey]

Most played ones at least here. 61 wr 2200 pr

Esp incomp I feel like is going rly bad

[sweet latch]

could be worse - imagine facing a Georgia in your T7

[lucid wagon]

the hell happened in Incomp

[sweet latch]

[wheat cobalt]

I know bestie

[untold thistle]

if you're bad at incomp, then doesn't that mean you need to do more "skill expression"

[lucid wagon]

bro be losing a shit ton in Incomp yet they playing Kronshtadt

[wheat cobalt]

Kronkek epic car

[rare schooner]

Randoms

PolishFemboy\_prpr's Kronshtadt (EU)

Battles: 7
Wins: 85.71% (6/1/0)
Survival: 71.43% (5/2)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 901
Damage: 122 599
Kills: 1.86
Aircraft: 0.29
Spotted: 0.57
Scouting: 35 669
Potential: 1 094 965

Records

Base EXP: 2 828
Damage: 193 396
Kills: 5
Aircraft: 2
Spotted: 2
Scouting: 119 831
Potential: 2 093 300

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (12/4/41.49%)
Secondaries: (0/0/7.14%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (1/1/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[sweet latch]

removed for a reason

[wheat cobalt]

more avg dmg than my sevas

gg

[lucid wagon]

Best ship ever btw

[untold thistle]

low ball in all honesty

[junior osprey]

I feel like the 6 guns I miss all the time with or it doesn't give me good damage into broadsides

What's more I also get fucked a lot I feel by being solo into subs, dd diff etc

[rare schooner]

Randoms

PolishFemboy\_prpr's Incomparable (EU)

Battles: 62
Wins: 59.68% (37/25/0)
Survival: 50.00% (31/31)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 549
Damage: 143 220
Kills: 1.61
Aircraft: 5.19
Spotted: 0.18
Scouting: 23 605
Potential: 1 542 531

Records

Base EXP: 3 150
Damage: 344 314
Kills: 5
Aircraft: 37
Spotted: 2
Scouting: 83 455
Potential: 3 305 850

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (89/5/48.95%)
Secondaries: (1/1/14.58%)
Torpedoes: (2/1/3.85%)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (7/1/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[untold thistle]

just blame aim bug

[wheat cobalt]

fr

[untold thistle]

for the aim

like dude

if your shots land short vertically

it's legit aim bug

[tawdry turret]

[livid bridge]

If you hit its aim bug

Cuz you cant aim and you still hit

[junior osprey]

That's why I'm playing it a fair bit, to improve. I used to be mostly cruiser main so bad at aiming Vermont shell speed, so forced myself to play like 50 solo vermonts

[untold thistle]

oh fuck

[honest silo]

Hey mehfia.

[untold thistle]

im against a TTT

hey andrea

[honest silo]

Hey _Kowatari.

[untold thistle]

wait

[tawdry turret]

[untold thistle]

i might lose here again

[tawdry turret]

then unlose it

[lucid wagon]

just blame any wows loss on an asian minority

[junior osprey]

What's the fault with kron?

[honest silo]

I would for sure do some battle later today.

And hope to do better then yesterday.

[lucid wagon]

i just find it funny because most people find Kronshtadt bad, where Incomparable is usually considered one of the 'better' ships

Kronshtadt also isnt the best

[wheat cobalt]

mostly boils down to Incomp being turbo accurate and with 508mm guns

while Kronkek is BB disp

oof

[untold thistle]

just nuked the TTT guy

[edgy marten]

Kron in 2026

[livid bridge]

The better kron has cruiser disp

[edgy marten]

[lucid wagon]

Kronekiwan

[edgy marten]

Might as well play Sevastopoop

[lucid wagon]

ok hard reach wtf

[wheat cobalt]

honestly

[junior osprey]

The way I see it, yes the bb disp is bad but you have 9 guns 14 secs reload with French 380 AP pen

You are basically like a perma reload boost Jean Bart

[wheat cobalt]

as crazy as it sounds

[lucid wagon]

Kronshtadt is NOT as bad as Sevastopol lmao

[wheat cobalt]

Kronkek is neat

[lucid wagon]

as Kronshtadt is actually quite ok

[edgy marten]

They both sound like torture

Kron because BBs overmatch all over you + BB disp on guns

[lucid wagon]

Interesting way of seeing things

hm

[livid bridge]

All sevas needs is a revert of the nerf of the heal

[edgy marten]

Sevastopoop because.... Sevastopoop

[livid bridge]

Fixed

[untold thistle]

lads

i just lost 3 teammates at 0 enemies

[wheat cobalt]

Kronkek sounds bad

but it's quite good

[livid bridge]

I thought its opposite

[junior osprey]

Now the issue with kron is that it is custom made out of paper, custom made to be nuked by airstrikes

Buuut... T9 cruiser with basically inbetween Jean Bart and Bourg reload boost power

[livid bridge]

Sounds gud but abysmal

For kron

[edgy marten]

Without 380mm ovm

🛌

[lucid wagon]

and obligatory long duration 12km radar (RUSSIA MUST HAVE THE MOST OP RADARS IRL)

lmao

[honest silo]

Hey Hot_Potato_Gruel.

[wheat cobalt]

Kronkek also has high HP

[edgy marten]

Sure

[junior osprey]

Which let's face it isn't too huge in T9 although obv it is a drawback

[wheat cobalt]

with good conceal to radar ratio

[edgy marten]

The 'high HP' when the BB just caves your face in

[honest silo]

What ship is the Kron?

[lucid wagon]

I honestly dont mind Kronkekiwan because despite the fact it has 25mm everywhere; the radar + the health usually are good enough to outdo the drawbacks

[wheat cobalt]

Kronshtad

[lucid wagon]

the guns are whatever

I have 20 games on navarin

and Navarin is.. a tragedy.

and 432 games on hector 😝

[honest silo]

It's Tech Tree?

[wheat cobalt]

no

premium

[sweet latch]

a removed premium

[honest silo]

Oh, ok.

[wheat cobalt]

but nah fr

it's a good experience

[lucid wagon]

i think everyone who calls X ships guns bad

needs to play Navarin

[wheat cobalt]

Sevas

[lucid wagon]

because Navarin is like the master of having actually nothing even remotely redeemable

[wheat cobalt]

play Sevas

[livid bridge]

You forgot to shove it in

In Navarin

[lucid wagon]

i am gonna be honest; i'd rather play Sevastopol

then Navarin

[radiant olive]

ok, first version is done: https://discordapp.com/channels/669128285527080961/1508847955430609136/1509088957995028591

Please tell me if you think something is broken/too strong in your opinion

[lucid wagon]

Navarin is so depressingly bad it isnt even funny

[livid bridge]

At 0km the guns are accurate

[junior osprey]

I played once NAVARIN and it was so weird lmfao

I was actually nuking everything with guns, I heard a lot of shit about it's poor survivability so I played pretty careful and sure enough I got shit on angled by a minnesota

[wheat cobalt]

mmmm

could be valid

[lucid wagon]

Navarin has a bad hull, bad guns, relatively meh speed, good secondaries (at a range where you get turbofucked anyway)

[livid bridge]

But ye Sevas cool car cuz guns really slap

[lucid wagon]

Navarin guns performing well in this economy wtf?!

[livid bridge]

Plus zooming at 45 with 0 conceal

[rare schooner]

Randoms

Arden\_Elenduil's Navarin (NA)

Battles: 1
Wins: 100.00% (1/0/0)
Survival: 0.00% (0/1)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 767
Damage: 143 421
Scouting: 39 178
Potential: 1 254 854

Records

Base EXP: 1 767
Damage: 143 421
Scouting: 39 178
Potential: 1 254 854

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (0/0/39.47%)
Secondaries: (0/0/19.11%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (0/0/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[livid bridge]

So

[radiant olive]

1 battle was enough

[sweet latch]

Navarin when there is Picardi

[wheat cobalt]

I played Navarin once

[lucid wagon]

i honestly dont think picardie is worse then Navarin

Navarin is just SO bad lmao

[livid bridge]

Navarin gaming

[eager pumice]

this is called a race to the bottom

[junior osprey]

It was that day I played like 7 incomp matches each one worse than the last, the 6 guns kept doing 0 dmg to broadsides over and over, then I switched to NAVARIN and oh my god ppl go flat they take dmg again

[livid bridge]

[sweet latch]

yeah, Navarin at least has dope secondaries

and is fairly tanky

[junior osprey]

Did not even get to use them lmfao it was too slow

[lucid wagon]

i'm very surprised

[lucid wagon]

the thing is that it has Schlieffen level dpm (supposedly) bt to even use them youre gonna get into a range where you get absolutely annihilated anyawy lmao

and youre too slow and too easily spotted to reach it anyway

[junior osprey]

Idk man I have strong opinions on that

I got boxed up from like 25k in 2 shots by a fucking Minnesota at 14km while 0 degrees angled at him

[lucid wagon]

nasty ass casemate shellcatchers

[untold thistle]

great

i topped out of the team

[junior osprey]

1 game isn't much of a sample size but my gut feeling is that if ppl kite how the fuck are you gonna get secondaries on target

Well you just don't, ever

[lucid wagon]

literally the only redeemale thing about navarin for the 1/100 chance you get to use them

[untold thistle]

at a loss

[fringe rover]

honestly, Kronk my beloved

probably my favorite large cruiser tbh

[livid bridge]

Just use the secs every time

[untold thistle]

is TTT still relevant as a clan

[radiant olive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/finally-atlast-itsover-8UF0EXzsc0Ckg

[livid bridge]

Whats a ttt

[junior osprey]

Soo to improve maybe I should play incomp on stream and ppl can backseat? Or other 6 gun bbs

[untold thistle]

Tora Tora Tora

[livid bridge]

Twinks twinks twinks

[fringe rover]

yes the accuracy is wonk and it has some drawbacks, but you can really put it to work if you know how

[lucid wagon]

The other funny thing is w/ max concealment on Navarin is 12km, but you secondaries only extend out to 10km

not to mention youre slow

so when youre spotted they legitimately get all the time in the world to just kite it out

and oopsies free kill

[junior osprey]

My favorite sorta large cruiser like gameplay ship has to be Venezia

[lucid wagon]

Stalingrad

[livid bridge]

Schroder and Sevas

[edgy marten]

to return to topic

[radiant olive]

in game discussion?

[sweet latch]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/630553822036623370/1136805130004594688/ags.gif

[edgy marten]

the one thing Sevastopol and Kron have in common is that almost no one plays them

[livid bridge]

Brennus honorable mention

[honest silo]

I'm just curious guys.

[untold thistle]

I love sinking my wr

with izumo

[radiant olive]

honestly izumo isn't that bad anymore

[honest silo]

But what is your opinion of Benson guys?

[radiant olive]

decent bote, nothing fancy, gets the job done

[sweet latch]

Spee best large"ish" cruiser

[lucid wagon]

Only took like a massive buff

[honest silo]

Yeah I agree.

[edgy marten]

Izumo was bad in the ancient days

not anymore

[radiant olive]

oh she was horrible

[lucid wagon]

Bad is uh

Yeah

[fringe rover]

the guns arent that much weaker than Stalingrads, but you can get them down to mid tier heavy cruiser reload times

[junior osprey]

I don't really like any of the ijn vertical dispersion formula ships tbh

[radiant olive]

brennus?

[edgy marten]

the dark past of wows

where we had to pay for premium consumables

[fringe rover]

no, Kronshtadt

[edgy marten]

*credits

[radiant olive]

no, that would be the era of stealth firing Zao's

[lucid wagon]

Old floods

Actual death

[edgy marten]

remember what they took from us

[wheat cobalt]

I used to be a non believer

but

[edgy marten]

stealthfiring Z52

[wheat cobalt]

I played it

[livid bridge]

I love 2026 the golden age of wows

[wheat cobalt]

and it's epico

[livid shadow]

We need to remove smoke firing penalty qgain

[radiant olive]

@livid shadow https://discordapp.com/channels/669128285527080961/1508847955430609136/1509088957995028591 thoughts?

[edgy marten]

red so badly damaged by Sevastopol, even Kron seems great

[lucid wagon]

Slava main loves trash & garbage; more news at 6

[edgy marten]

😔

[lucid wagon]

I think if u main slava anything is good

[livid bridge]

More news at 6 7

[lucid wagon]

Slava SUCKS!!

[edgy marten]

omg

6 7

!!!!

(before someone malds, there used to be linguistic equivalents of this back in the day too, iirc)

[fringe rover]

theres a reason shes both top 5 in games played and i have decent stats in her

[livid bridge]

Sevas only lost in avarege to smolensk for me

https://tenor.com/view/very-nice-impressive-gif-13646207769991612852

[lucid wagon]

https://tenor.com/view/uma-musume-tm-opera-o-opera-o-opera-shark-stark-gif-13883374707044321828

[edgy marten]

also, 007 game is out

in other news

[radiant olive]

oh?

is it any good?

[sweet latch]

067 game

[radiant olive]

also which bond

[edgy marten]

initial reviews are very good

it's a new origin story

[radiant olive]

so shean connereh

[edgy marten]

nope

[livid bridge]

Good reviews so woke garbage propably

[edgy marten]

new era

[livid bridge]

Smh

[radiant olive]

oh bleh

[edgy marten]

it's from the same developers who made the Hitman games

so

[radiant olive]

ooooohhh

ok

now i'm interested

[lofty gorge]

I think after just having 4 really bad back to back games in heinrich on randoms, I'm going to slip back to ops

[livid bridge]

You get to hit the men

[wheat cobalt]

67

[livid bridge]

But you are british

(?)

At least i think bond means british

Not sure

[junior osprey]

Low tier bad moment

[edgy marten]

some of the initial playthroughs should be up now

[edgy marten]

T7 = lowtier

[junior osprey]

Well tbh I'm biased from all the years when cruisers were heal less

But still imo the below t8 stuff is pretty ass

[edgy marten]

even John Wargaming thinks T7 is midtier

[lucid wagon]

You should play Goliath

Best skill expression Fr

[wheat cobalt]

god

Goliath

the pocket Conq

[honest silo]

I honestly have fun playing with Tier 7 like Helena, but also at Tier V and VI.

[edgy marten]

play Defence instead of Goliath

much more funni

[wheat cobalt]

truth

[lucid wagon]

Goliath is so bad not even a RESIN member I saw today could last more then 1 minute in it

Dude got fucking nuked at the start

[edgy marten]

funni to jumpscare superlights

with 10,1km conceal

[wheat cobalt]

Goliath is playable but

meh

why bother

[lucid wagon]

Playable if you wanna torture yourself lmao

The citadel is such a troll

[wheat cobalt]

based

we love torture here

[lucid wagon]

We should give every BB the Goliath & Nottingham citadel treatment

[wheat cobalt]

not gonna happen

no cits for bbs

rah

[strange mulch]

Ah, yes, the poster child for "Himbos"

[honest silo]

But yeah what is your opinion guys of Benson?

[blazing palm]

good morning

[wheat cobalt]

wish it was colder

but gm

[blazing palm]

yeah, people are quite polarized on the topic of hot weather

[ancient monolith]

DDs abandoning their flank is a new trend no? I've seen that a lot since yesterday

[blazing palm]

some really enjoy it

not me though

[wheat cobalt]

just like me fr

[untold thistle]

hehehe, I hate tropical heat

[junior osprey]

Nah it's very ok I think, granted I don't play it much as it's kinda boring just kite without much playmaking capability

You have superheals

[edgy marten]

Benson is okay

a true hybrid in the line

[blazing palm]

I've never been south enough. is it bad?

[wheat cobalt]

Bensonium

[edgy marten]

take this person to India

[blazing quest]

im pregnant

[honest silo]

Hey Barkond and good morning.

[edgy marten]

again?

damn

[honest silo]

How are you?

[blazing quest]

again

[rustic hearth]

we know

[untold thistle]

I'm in south east asia

[honest silo]

Hey nyanko.

[lusty lagoon]

fuck

[edgy marten]

you are presumably in a place that's wet, at least

[lusty lagoon]

game pinked my ass cuz i crashed

[blazing palm]

I'm good, thank you. and you?

[lusty lagoon]

[honest silo]

I see.

[livid shadow]

good thing my uni is a concrete bunker without windows. Cant get hot in here

[edgy marten]

I was in place that's hot, with little rainfall, and yet very humid

[edgy marten]

have you considered air conditioning

[wheat cobalt]

lol

[honest silo]

Fine thanks, feeling better then yesterday.

[wheat cobalt]

play ship game in da bunker

[edgy marten]

because my uni is also a concrete block

[livid shadow]

No we dont have that here

[edgy marten]

but it's not so bad because it's designed to allow some airflow

• has AC in most rooms

[stoic idol]

good morning people of discord

[livid shadow]

Well in summer i practicly live here

[honest silo]

Hey ObiphanKenobi and good morning.

[blazing palm]

glad to hear that 🙂

[stoic idol]

👍

[lucid wagon]

Taiwan heat is not for beginners

Wowee

35 C w/ a humidity of 55%

Lovely

[livid bridge]

[coral herald]

https://tenor.com/view/bergfest-mittwoch-frog-frosch-es-ist-bergfest-gif-18277444

[wheat cobalt]

play prince of wales

ong

"worse kgv tier for tier"

or smth

[coral herald]

Prince of Whales

[delicate hound]

hows sherman since the speed boost option?

[honest silo]

Thanks and yeah I went a bit too hard on myself for have done low damage on enemy ships.

[honest silo]

Hey Independence22.

[jagged patio]

hello Andrea

[coral herald]

Hello

[wheat cobalt]

since this update

oh

nvm can't read

it's strong

obv

no brainer choice

[coral herald]

Can it do french gunnoat thing now

[wheat cobalt]

bc lmao dfaa vs engine boost

[lapis karma]

which tier IX coal ships are most worth buying rn (apart from Iwami, Azuma and Kearsarge, which i already have)

[untold thistle]

save for t10

[coral herald]

Groningen

[honest silo]

Hey Smolensk.

[jagged patio]

looking forward to new missions tomorrow?

[honest silo]

I will be departing for Spain tomorrow.

[livid bridge]

Speaking of new cars

Bis41

[honest silo]

Hey Nayterii.

[livid bridge]

Hello

[honest silo]

Just for know, is USS Black a good pick?

[livid bridge]

I did a couple more attempts at Bis41

The verdict is out

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-abysmal-abysmal-cinema-gif-9289070101747854856

[coral herald]

Real, USS Black vs Chung mu

What's better

[wheat cobalt]

yes

[untold thistle]

black is a larger investment of coal compared to t10

[sweet latch]

Bisko41 - more like barley an okay T7 ship

[eager pumice]

Wehrabait '41

Inherently Overpowered

[sweet latch]

PoW is okayish.
Range sucks ass but the rest is workable

[coral herald]

They even copy pasted bismarck's damaged camo

[delicate hound]

hate when this happens. (hdr)

[coral herald]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-blind-flashbang-light-mode-gif-21281004

[obtuse ferry]

is it the one where your camera is detatching from the ship

[delicate hound]

yeah

was having a good match to when it happened

thankfully we won but man its an annoying bug

[pearl shuttle]

Iowa '84 when?

[coral herald]

This July

[wheat cobalt]

buh

[obtuse ferry]

you can add to this thread: https://discord.com/channels/669128285527080961/1500887940446818324

[wheat cobalt]

okayish?

[obtuse ferry]

if you havent yet

is PoW okayish only?

[wheat cobalt]

has to be ragebait

[obtuse ferry]

i thought it was nuts

[wheat cobalt]

same

it's crazy good

[sweet latch]

issue is - T8 has too many other crazy good ships

its certainly not Lenin level

[tiny radish]

hooray powercreep

[tiny radish]

imagine lenin when it was released

[sweet latch]

so yeah - its okay

[tiny radish]

I have no idea how on earth the russian BBs got released the way they did

every single one of them was OP on release (to varying degrees - the biggest offenders being PV, sinop, lenin, and kremlin)

[sweet latch]

its easy - Lesta was in charge back then

[coral herald]

Russian bias

[wheat cobalt]

imo pow is uhhh

[tiny radish]

whats the PoW's specialty?

[wheat cobalt]

one of the most cringe ships to play against

[wheat cobalt]

KGV guns with gimped AP but you get BC dispersion

and HE is the same

[tiny radish]

armor wise?

[hidden bay]

Fire bombing, in the finest tradition of RAF Bomber Command.

[tiny radish]

26 mm or 32 mm

[pearl shuttle]

||what is PoW||

[coral herald]

Anhalt if it was good

[hidden bay]

26mm

[sweet latch]

BC plating

[wheat cobalt]

26mm bow/stern

[sweet latch]

BC dispersion

[wheat cobalt]

mid is 32

[tiny radish]

this sounds oddly like playing the KGV against T8-T9 BBs

[coral herald]

Prince of whales

[tiny radish]

you get overmatched everywhere but you burn down everything too

[pearl shuttle]

AH

[eager pumice]

PoW looks like comedy

[sweet latch]

its very easy to counter a PoW. But if you don't respect her like DoY you will regret it

[eager pumice]

sometimes you don't need to tryhard
you just want to cook things

[tiny radish]

so... does it get a bonus vs the cathedral bismarck?

gotta name it dresden then

[hidden bay]

Sadly, they wouldn't let me include that.

[tiny radish]

you and I both know the setup was right there

[hidden bay]

But of course

[tiny radish]

the moment they included the cathedral bismarck that was begging for a joke/snide remark

[edgy marten]

Prince of W(h)ales

)

[eager pumice]

IF ONLY

[sweet latch]

also PoW has KGV typical abysmal fire angles. Overall I would rate it as a nice Monarch sidegrade

[eager pumice]

IF ONLY WE COULD ACTUALLY BUY POW AS A NORMAL T8 PREMIUM

🥹

[pearl shuttle]

Acualy the price of PoW fits the name of the ship lmao

[coral herald]

Gotta keep the servers running

[junior osprey]

Nahh that's a wild take is that really more cringe than JAGER not to mention the forbidden classes?

[honest silo]

I know, but I was thinking to get that, Moskva, Hayate or idk tbh.

[short wolf]

Containers within containers within containers

[edgy marten]

you could become a real admiral and buy the admiral bundle

[coral herald]

Sub Cv people

[edgy marten]

evidently

[honest silo]

Hey Killerbin and good morning.

[edgy marten]

also, you can get PoW easily

)))

[coral herald]

https://tenor.com/view/bait-cat-is-this-bait-cat-is-this-ragebait-gif-10902073105296387701

[short wolf]

Absolutely not, just sell me the hull itself and not a ton of flags etc.

[edgy marten]

they know

[eager pumice]

just because I have a lot of money doesn't mean I'm eager to spend it

[edgy marten]

no, not money

iykyk

[eager pumice]

knows what

[edgy marten]

I'll DM

[coral herald]

Assault WG office with potatoes and demand that they give POW to your account?

[ancient monolith]

ok, let's try narnia sibir from now on, cause nobody wants to push

[honest silo]

Good luck and have fun.

[hidden bay]

Good day

[upper wyvern]

Narnia sibir is called slava

[wheat cobalt]

Slava my beloved

[edgy marten]

is this ragebait

[upper wyvern]

And it got buffed

[edgy marten]

because no one sane plays Slava

[obtuse ferry]

slava is pretty goodge now

red stonks have never been higher

[livid bridge]

Me when Bismark41 exists

[hidden bay]

https://tenor.com/view/soviet-union-stalin-ussr-russia-edit-gif-16432123930007423420

[livid bridge]

Anhalt is right there for coal

[honest silo]

Hey Bazinga.

[livid bridge]

And much better

[edgy marten]

Anhalt looks fugly

[pearl shuttle]

Anhalt is sleeper agent fr

[short wolf]

This is a joke that can be easily misinterpreted, so I suggest any assault should be conducted with potatoes

[edgy marten]

unlike Bismarck

[pearl shuttle]

I acualy kinda like how it looks

[edgy marten]

how can WG give prisoners of war to us

much less credit them to our accounts

[obtuse ferry]

Hello Andrea

[junior osprey]

I feel like anhalt is over hated

[livid bridge]

I would say its preety comparable to bismark

[lofty gorge]

Boy you know where this would be easy to do.
asymmetric battles.

[eager pumice]

If I travel all the way to the Wargaming office can I ask them to give me a Wisconsin or something

[edgy marten]

or

[obtuse ferry]

you can ask

you will not get it

[edgy marten]

Randoms

just take a gunboat

[pearl shuttle]

I don't see anyone talk about anhalt ;-; not to mention even use it.

[eager pumice]

What can you actually get

[lofty gorge]

Yes but asymmetric would be far easier, Hints why I'm saying it

[livid bridge]

Its preety easy in ops ye

[edgy marten]

even if we add smileys? 😔

[pearl shuttle]

I seen one used once.

[lofty gorge]

100k spotting isn't that hard in ops yeah

[livid bridge]

Asymetric its harder to get 50k spotting

Than ops 100k

[tawdry turret]

assyms

[coral herald]

Joke?

[obtuse ferry]

for travelling to the office?

[lofty gorge]

Ehhh I've gotten 150,000 scotting in Asymetric as a BB

[short wolf]

Sure, you incur Prisoners of War from every shipwreck you create, which will decay (be transferred to land) in 48 hours. Until all PoW aboard are transferred, all credit earnings from game modes suffer a 50% penalty to cover PoW sustainment costs.

[obtuse ferry]

i guess getting to visit a new city

[pearl shuttle]

Me returning with 255hp to my teammates after getting only 60k

[edgy marten]

can visit WG

[wheat cobalt]

Anhaltus is

eh

it exists

[edgy marten]

gets sent to Belgrade

sounds

[junior osprey]

In theory it should be a good HE car

That said haven't played it

[honest silo]

I honestly like Anhalt.

[hidden bay]

Given at the moment its pretty bloody warm, the time to visit Belgrade was about a week ago

[prisma sigil]

Hur dur let's give Mainz heals

[wheat cobalt]

yessir

mainz with heals

waifu car

[edgy marten]

good

let the T8 cruisers finally be free

[sweet latch]

needs a 3rd heal because german cruiser have 1 extra heal!!!!

[prisma sigil]

What about Bayard

[edgy marten]

and let the smelly BBs burn

[sweet latch]

but WG forgot the german cruiser gimick

[livid bridge]

It doesnt need one

Cuz its giga mobile

[pearl shuttle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1492287143064764540/RDT_20260410_1536031439652061911380654.gif?ex=69dac834&is=69d976b4&hm=3f4bdb8b177dda51a9d660d65ca2b1ede68bd4dcbb5a30e07c25e410da20cd67&

[prisma sigil]

Neither did Mainz

[wheat cobalt]

play zh1 to burn bbs

[livid bridge]

No, mainz does need one

[short wolf]

Doesn’t need one

[edgy marten]

I dunno, dodging in Mainz sounds much harder than dodging with Bayard

[short wolf]

Definitely

[sweet latch]

Mainz stats are abysmal

[honest silo]

Is Max Immelmann good guys?

[sweet latch]

ship needs all the help it can get

[short wolf]

Mainz is good in PvE, but gets relegated to long range HE spam in PvP

[edgy marten]

why do you have to remind me of that

I have to complete that dockyard

[junior osprey]

Speaking of that, Bremen is another ship I can't make work

Every single time I take it out I feel like my team is instantly two, three or four man first blooded in the first 5 mins

[wheat cobalt]

bc I like you

[edgy marten]

for a ship I didn't even want

🛌

[livid bridge]

I am at 2 missions done

Out of phase 2

[short wolf]

Speaking of which, I need a Bremen

[livid bridge]

For dockyard

[edgy marten]

😳

[lapis karma]

i love azuma so much

[junior osprey]

I'm so ass dude literally cannot win a match wit bremen, like idk it's low sample size so far at least tho

[lapis karma]

devstrike machine

[wheat cobalt]

happens

[prisma sigil]

Lol you're funny

[edgy marten]

...so, you love getting devstruck?

[sweet latch]

facts hurt this community I know

[edgy marten]

concerning

[short wolf]

Why

I intend to trade her in

[livid bridge]

In 6 games I have 66% wr in USS US in co-op

Hope that helps

[prisma sigil]

Exactly what stats are abysmal?

[wheat cobalt]

I think Mainz stats are kinda mid actually
as in player stats not ship stats

[edgy marten]

everything, presumably

[wheat cobalt]

but I'd have to check

[sweet latch]

the only relevant Stat - WR

[edgy marten]

because it's a German ship

[honest silo]

One question guys.

[edgy marten]

and will automatically be much more popular in EU

for that specific crowd

[short wolf]

Why would someone like Azuma?

[ancient monolith]

7 knots sibir is ok, boring but ok

[prisma sigil]

🙄

[honest silo]

Is better IJN Yoshino or IJN Azuma?

[edgy marten]

it's a good HE spammer

it's a T9 prem

[livid bridge]

Massive gonzagas

[edgy marten]

makes bank

[edgy marten]

why do you have to make it sound weird

[short wolf]

Too sluggish, too vulnerable, no impact in PvP

[sweet latch]

[wheat cobalt]

Bremen is indeed a ship that you farm with and hope that your team doesn't fold like an omlette

[edgy marten]

it's an HE spammer, no one is caring about impact there

it HE spams, and it HE spams well

as for being vulnerable, 40s (?) CD heal

[honest silo]

Or it's better go for Moskva?

[sweet latch]

like I said Mainz Game stats are abysmal and if anything the heal makes it barley relevant for PvP

[wheat cobalt]

hawaii is a ship

[honest silo]

Yeah.

[wheat cobalt]

mainz with heals is prob stupid rn

[edgy marten]

Hawaii is a ship, yes

[short wolf]

Map edging and slinging he is… sort of frustrating

[wheat cobalt]

but I don't have mainz

[edgy marten]

for you

[wheat cobalt]

I have big mainz

[grave pewter]

Moskva

[edgy marten]

others might like it

[livid bridge]

Idk whats stupid about cruiser having heal

[short wolf]

What’s your excuse

[wheat cobalt]

meh

Grau gaming rah

[honest silo]

I see and thanks and hey SilverStorm.

[short wolf]

Excellent bane posting

[wheat cobalt]

I love Grau

[edgy marten]

Grau is excellent now

[livid bridge]

Almirante Mrrrau :3

[wheat cobalt]

and Tallinn

truly a car

[blazing palm]

I can relate
But you shouldn't be hard on yourself.
The goal of the game should be to have fun, not to deal damage 🙂

[haughty juniper]

ture

[livid bridge]

Bigger number generates fun

[grave pewter]

https://tenor.com/view/time-to-take-your-meds-eric-cartman-south-park-cupid-ye-south-park-s26e1-s26e1-gif-7821189482210209831

[honest silo]

I know and true, but I had the feeling I wasn't helping my team.

[livid bridge]

Like more SPM in factorio

[honest silo]

And thanks Barkond.