what are you on about
#game-discussion
dim bridge
light harbor
50mm midsection
plush smelt
it eats so much pen damage
dim bridge
vermont is the most kickable fat piggy in any match
plush smelt
i swear
dim bridge
That fast heal aint shit
and that massive mid section makes every hit it takes full pens
plush smelt
well it isnt considered tanky
dim bridge
hell a blind kremlin can shoot it and it would magnetically attract all the shells
its not squishy
but its certainly not tanky either
its got worse survivability than its sister shit montana is all
I was meaning to say ship
but shit is also funny
lament birch
vermont got buffed to not be completely squish that thing on release was so shit 
topaz coyote
What survivability are we lacking exactly
light harbor
its got worse survivability than its sister shit montana is all
After playing Montana recently I definitely don't agree with that
dim bridge
Montana is incredibly tanky
light harbor
What with all the 38mm+ HE spammers in the game now
sudden cradle
we should give bismarck 41 sap secondaries and make it cost 50k doubloons cause thats nice right
dim bridge
actually you know what Im not spending my morning explaining why conceal isnt needed on kremlin
you do you
topaz coyote
actually you know what Im not spending my morning explaining why conceal isnt ne...
What else are you gonna use it for? 
untold thistle
What else are you gonna use it for? <:conwhy:839963463731904562>
BoS 
topaz coyote
I'm eating chicken rn and watching 60 minutes
The Skillpoints I mean
dim bridge
OH
topaz coyote
BoS <:Dashaha:1079231213677584515>
So true
dim bridge
lol
light harbor
The furious Kremlin
dim bridge
2 point AA skill for the -40% cooldown on DCP and Heal
topaz coyote
dim bridge
Maybe vigilance for an extra 7% torpedo protection and earlier torpedo spotting
topaz coyote
I'd rather pick conceal
dim bridge
yeah you see why I didnt go into it
sudden cradle
cant spell sinop without OP am i right guys or am i right
dim bridge
prop mod on kremlin as always
topaz coyote
yeah you see why I didnt go into it
Those are just bad picks tho
dim bridge
no ship goes without prop mod unless it litearlly cant take it
topaz coyote
Yea I do that too
dim bridge
the 2 point aa skill is incredibly good
untold thistle
Hago krem build...
light harbor
Something like this if you spam DCPs maybe?
dim bridge
Hago krem build...
god please dont call it that
topaz coyote
Hago has released a plague of brainrot upon the community
untold thistle
god please dont call it that
I will
lucid wagon
why is that
untold thistle
Cant stop me
lucid wagon
what does he do
light harbor
He's an asshole is all
dim bridge
I know what that build is but I was doing that with my krem way before that shit
topaz coyote
No no
sudden cradle
why does gascogne have 23km mains
light harbor
Also has really weird takes
sudden cradle
without spotter
topaz coyote
Idc that he is an ass, I watch chems regularly
unique heath
i have a question
red is enemy ship
blue is your ship
how do you always HIT the ship doing damage not
non pen or rico
topaz coyote
The difference between him and chems is that his builds and idea suck
vital delta
Cant wait for decals to drop cause this means that when we get non-historical ones I can finally have a decal on my BB that says "I DCP single fires đ„ "
unique heath
i have a question
red is enemy ship
blue is your ship
how do you always HIT t...
i used ap still RICO
light harbor
why is he an 'ass'
That's probably at least partly a me thing
Man uses slurs so I don't like him
topaz coyote
i have a question
red is enemy ship
blue is your ship
how do you always HIT t...
You would have to shoot superstructure
unique heath
You would have to shoot superstructure
i need training for that i gues
light harbor
But like 90% of WoWS youtubers use slurs which is a fun experience
unique heath
You would have to shoot superstructure
also if it a BB and cruiser in that position AP or HE
i a bad player
topaz coyote
i need training for that i gues
Difficult cuz guns obstruct the superstructure
unique heath
i have no idea
dim bridge
It isnt that Hago curses a lot but his opinions and the way he defends them are questionable at best, the guy puts down others opinions and build for the most stupid reasons
light harbor
It's easier to hit superstructure if the ship is angled rather than perfectly bow-in
light harbor
It isnt that Hago curses a lot but his opinions and the way he defends them are ...
That too
topaz coyote
also if it a BB and cruiser in that position AP or HE
If you are a cruiser use HE unless you have a extremely high pen, if you are a BB and overmatch use AP
unique heath
If you are a cruiser use HE unless you have a extremely high pen, if you are a B...
i use a BB
dim bridge
I find him annoying
topaz coyote
It isnt that Hago curses a lot but his opinions and the way he defends them are ...
That too
unique heath
like montana agaisnt T8 or T9
lucid wagon
It isnt that Hago curses a lot but his opinions and the way he defends them are ...
say if i were to disagree with his opinion
unique heath
like why is it rico
lucid wagon
what would he say in response
vital delta
or an 'ass'
He has a pretty toxic attitude towards the playerbase which I mean I get it, the average player is bad, but it can be pretty draining. Ik im in one of his reviews and he calls me a brainless chimp. I think some of his reviews are pretty helpful tho and he can be pretty entertaining
dim bridge
hed probably call you a dog and tell you you are selling the match and your team
light harbor
what would he say in response
He'd call you a vegan or the r-slur
dim bridge
as he commonly does
topaz coyote
what would he say in response
What opinion would you hold is the question
dim bridge
the guy is a good player but hes just an asshole about everything
topaz coyote
If you say Alvaro isn't literally the second coming of Christ he would call you a clown
light harbor
He has a pretty toxic attitude towards the playerbase which I mean I get it, the...
On the one hand I get the feeling of "wow the average player sucks"
On the other hand, they're still people
vital delta
Yeah
dim bridge
On the one hand I get the feeling of "wow the average player sucks"
On the othe...
Yeah this
lament birch
it gets amplified by the literal mob around him too
topaz coyote
i did zero dmg
What ship were you shooting
light harbor
It's really exhausting trying to watch good WoWS youtubers and having them constantly yell about how people like you suck
lucid wagon
If you say Alvaro isn't literally the second coming of Christ he would call you ...
Say I hold the Opinion that Alvaro de Bazan is bad; would he provide an actual counter argument or just call me a shit player who doesnt know anything
dim bridge
Hago is good but not everyone has the time of day and the lack of showers per minute to get as good as him
light harbor
G4ng goes on and on about bluenicums in triple divs for example
vital delta
Say I hold the Opinion that Alvaro de Bazan is bad; would he provide an actual c...
Probably both
unique heath
What ship were you shooting
another BB T9 like a ship retreating
light harbor
Say I hold the Opinion that Alvaro de Bazan is bad; would he provide an actual c...
The latter
severe plank
At this point âgoodâ and âwows YouTuberâ honestly feel mutually exclusive
unique heath
What ship were you shooting
example izumo still rico went i a montana aim
dim bridge
Say I hold the Opinion that Alvaro de Bazan is bad; would he provide an actual c...
both
wheat cobalt
Keklin my beloved
lucid wagon
are just constantly toxic about the game
topaz coyote
Say I hold the Opinion that Alvaro de Bazan is bad; would he provide an actual c...
He would probably say why Alvaro is good (eg. Burst and high HP and stuff) and then make fun of you
wheat cobalt
69k
lucid wagon
it has always been like that for the most part
light harbor
At this point âgoodâ and âwows YouTuberâ honestly feel mutually exclusive
I watch PQ on occasion precisely because he doesn't use slurs every 5 seconds so I don't need to prep myself for the r-bomb before watching
lament birch
You should have seen the old pq
honest silo
Outside of USS Black DD-666, between this coal ship what you guys would suggest?
light harbor
You should have seen the old pq <:Dashaha:1079231213677584515>
...yeah that's not all that surprising
topaz coyote
And I assume if you bring up a ship like Smaland he would bend over backwards trying to explain why Alvaro mogs
cold geyser
yeah but u dont need to be a dick
topaz coyote
example izumo still rico went i a montana aim
You don't overmatch those
severe plank
I just look up up whatever YouTuber made a video on a ship Iâm interested in and skip to the commander build section
Thatâs kind of it
topaz coyote
In that case as funny as it sounds use HE
lucid wagon
The thing is I feel like a lot of the playerbase is disconnected from what makes a player 'bad,' and what makes a player 'good.'
dim bridge
Outside of USS Black DD-666, between this coal ship what you guys would suggest?
gronningen moskva marceau
light harbor
I've been tempted to make WoWS ship reviews but I have no idea if I'm at a skill level yet where that would be actually useful
steel pier
Outside of USS Black DD-666, between this coal ship what you guys would suggest?
Azuma, Ăgir 
wheat cobalt
it's a shit version of sherman
unique heath
Because you don't overmatch
damn
gaunt saddle
I've been tempted to make WoWS ship reviews but I have no idea if I'm at a skill...
LWM was making excellent reviews even though her skill was average at best
wheat cobalt
unless you really need t9
topaz coyote
No overmatch + steep angle = ricochet
vital delta
Outside of USS Black DD-666, between this coal ship what you guys would suggest?
Its more of a div or ranked pick but I really enjoy brisbane
dim bridge
T9 sherman is good
light harbor
LWM was making excellent reviews even though her skill was average at best
This is true, yes
dim bridge
what can I say
wheat cobalt
idk bro
light harbor
I'll work it out after my IRL situation gets resolved perhaps
lucid wagon
LWM was making excellent reviews even though her skill was average at best
The huron ballistics changing is another betrayal....
wheat cobalt
just get mor coal for sherman
cold geyser
wheat cobalt
legit
topaz coyote
idk if i should use HE
Really depends on the situation, if he has no intention of turning or moving use HE
unique heath
Because you don't overmatch
i bad at this game so any other situation i should avoid this happening
dim bridge
Moskva is pretty good if you dont want T9 gron
lucid wagon
what happened to whitemouse with Yukon sucked but the Huron crashout was just
cold geyser
it wasn't like, 250k 6 kills, but it was good
lucid wagon
really random
unique heath
Really depends on the situation, if he has no intention of turning or moving use...
it was ai
so
gaunt saddle
Yeah. Huron was not the hill to die on
topaz coyote
Yea AI is wonky
honest silo
gronningen moskva marceau
How you play Groningen and Marceau?
light harbor
Yeah. Huron was not the hill to die on
It was more likely the straw that broke the horse's back
lament birch
the huron arcs crashout was the worlds oddest thing to be impaled from
rich dagger
How you play Groningen and Marceau?
BRRRRRRTTTTTTTTTT
honest silo
Its more of a div or ranked pick but I really enjoy brisbane
I see.
dim bridge
How you play Groningen and Marceau?
gron I play like sherman and marceau is open water gunboating from 12km in
cold geyser
fantasy soviet boat
dim bridge
pretty simple ships to play
honest silo
gron I play like sherman and marceau is open water gunboating from 12km in
I see.
dim bridge
Yeah theres not much that goes into playing those two
lucid wagon
the huron arcs crashout was the worlds oddest thing to be impaled from
I just find it funny from memory that it was also calling the Huron a "soviet fantasy boat" due to the ballisti changes (like comparing them) even though A; The ballistic change was like, what, 30m? and B; you literally worked on an extreme fantasy boat that I think Canada (?) would have
dim bridge
both are great gunboats for different needs
cold geyser
like, its just a tribal with flatter arcs, no? its literally the same in every other way đ€Ł
honest silo
Nice and thanks Artillerist.
gaunt saddle
No smoke compared to Haida
cold geyser
but a heal doesn't make it a "fantasy soviet boat"
honest silo
Hey Your_SAT_Score.
gaunt saddle
Hello
rich dagger
Bis 41 next tier 8 ranked meta?
cold geyser
every bismarck 41 i've been seeing in randoms has been ignoring their manual secondaries
?
topaz coyote
cold geyser
why
lament birch
le bot
lament birch
pressing 1 other button will implode their brain
dim bridge
losing out on hydro is also pretty fucking terrible when open water
stiff burrow
are we calling wows players dumb again
dim bridge
and all it gets in return is a speed boost
topaz coyote
are we calling wows players dumb again
No 
lucid wagon
i mean its pretty easy to avoid torpedoes
stiff burrow
No <:ElFructglare:1214942715884601374>
grrr
topaz coyote
đ
dim bridge
i mean its pretty easy to avoid torpedoes
cant spot ships behind islands or torpedoes from afar for any teammates in front of you
dim bridge
or in smoke when pushing into a DD
stiff burrow
I like eating torpedos they are yummers
plush smelt
dude i genuinely have the worst aim on the planet just took the most embarassing fight ever in a colbert
dim bridge
torpedoes are easy to dodge but you cant deny the usefulness of a hydro over speed boost
cold geyser
im not saying all wows players are dumb. im just observing that yesterday i watched a bismarck 41 get HE spammed from a smoke that he could have, at the very least, been shooting back at
lucid wagon
torpedoes are easy to dodge but you cant deny the usefulness of a hydro over spe...
i honestly prefer the speedboost ngl.
cold geyser
and he just passed away instead
dim bridge
i honestly prefer the speedboost ngl.
even if for whatever reason you like speed boost over hydro it doesnt make up for the rest of the ship being a lacking counterpart to the regular bismark
stiff burrow
we are wows we are great! Mensa helps us cooperate!
dim bridge
the only slightly better dispersion doesnt make up for the longer reload
lucid wagon
even if for whatever reason you like speed boost over hydro it doesnt make up fo...
I mean yeah the guns is an absolute atrocity. I was playing it earlier and I think i would just prefer the Bismarck guns
lmao
Its crazy because Ignis Purgatio got the same exact buff, but w/ only 3s extra reload, which is reasonable
dim bridge
Yeah regular bismark guns are better
lucid wagon
the Bismarck got.. 7s??
dim bridge
Bis 41 in ranked is not the way to go
lucid wagon
I am assuming the 7s is because of the manual secondaries buff but at the same time i just dont like secondary boats
I think secondary boats are far too inconsistent
severe plank
I thought the Mensa thing was just a joke
lucid wagon
so when I spoke tot one of them ingame
why did they call their clan leader
"Fuhrer Destoffel"
who's Destoffel btw
dim bridge
the manual secondaries are a gimmick and sure you can fire them further and aim manually at weaker parts of the ship but its still garbage
severe plank
What the Rafale
little abyss
I would much rather have 15% engine boost over German hydro
stiff burrow
What the Rafale
no itâs âwhat the sigmaâ
stiff burrow
đŸ
little abyss
The accel lets you have close to the same reaction time and you also just go almost 40 kts
little abyss
Losing 7 seconds of reload for .2 sigma and the man sec gimmick isnât worth it though
Especially for 120 dollars
lucid wagon
Losing 7 seconds of reload for .2 sigma and the man sec gimmick isnât worth it t...
isnt it .1?
dim bridge
i agree but the engine boost vs hydro discussion will always boil down to preferance
cold geyser
who's Destoffel btw
listen
lucid wagon
If its a .1 sigma increase, 7s is bullshit
cold geyser
genuinely
light harbor
isnt it .1?
0.2
lucid wagon
if it's .2 sigma increase, it scales in line with Ignis Purgatio buff
cold geyser
its not worth it
stiff burrow
wtf Is sigma
lucid wagon
6s + 1s due to manual secondaries ig
cold geyser
its literally fucking stupid
light harbor
Standard Bismarck is 1.8 sigma, Bismarck '41 is 2.0 sigma
cold geyser
waste of your time
lucid wagon
i am interested in the story
dim bridge
wtf Is sigma
tendency for the shells to go to the middle of your standard dispersion
stiff burrow
tendency for the shells to go to the middle of your standard dispersion
what the sigma!!!
eager pumice
Wehrabait '41
dim bridge
Im going to stab you in the chest with a toohbrush
little abyss
I think improved engine boost is always better than improved hydro tbh
eager pumice
Prince of Whales is where it's at
little abyss
Chadmiral vs Hildebrand type beat
stiff burrow
HURRAH
light harbor
I'm still surprised no one has complained that PoW is overpowered yet
The base stats are insane
severe plank
some have
dim bridge
Its not OP
little abyss
Amiral only sucks if youâre cringe and bad with bad opinions
dim bridge
Its pretty good but not OP
lucid wagon
I mean i kinda understand why Bismarck 41 has a 7s incease. It's in line w/ Amagi and Ignis Purgatio
stiff burrow
Amiral the leg commander?
light harbor
Its not OP
Why so?
little abyss
cold geyser
like u know when you spend 25 minutes talking to someone and you're getting along and then they try to sell you something, and when you say "I'm not interested" they just leave
severe plank
but unfortunately they're on reddit so you can take that with a salt shaker
eager pumice
Prince of Wales is a ship I highkey want
cold geyser
and you're like "wow that was genuinely the biggest waste of my time ever"
its like that
eager pumice
Pray for me please
stiff burrow
Pray for me please
Why
cold geyser
you're never getting that time back
lucid wagon
Why so?
im just happy It didnt get the original stats
i remember i was looking at original stats and it was like
eager pumice
The comedy of fire spreading
lucid wagon
2nd best FPM cruiser DPM
severe plank
casting curses on you instead
dim bridge
Why so?
the AP on prince of wales was nerfed and while the gun reload is better on Prince of wales it goes up tiered with no health increase or armor up
light harbor
i remember i was looking at original stats and it was like
Hm yes 183k HE DPM
severe plank
I'm evil like that
stiff burrow
Because there's no nice way to obtain it
I thought you had ligma or some shit
light harbor
the AP on prince of wales was nerfed and while the gun reload is better on Princ...
You don't use AP on KGV anyway
dim bridge
Its more accurate too but at T8 you are competing with a lot of stronger ships
light harbor
The point is the HE
lucid wagon
you're never getting that time back
is Destoffel person really that much of a waste of time
dim bridge
getting to it
wheat cobalt
Amiral only sucks if youâre cringe and bad with bad opinions
it just sucks
but ok
cold geyser
its simple
stiff burrow
what
wheat cobalt
get dogshit planes
lucid wagon
it just sucks
hundreds of games on Slava and Sevastopol though btw
cold geyser
he's an idiot, and he posted nazi memes
light harbor
is Destoffel person really that much of a waste of time
He posted nazi content during the Snarfing
wheat cobalt
but bro
severe plank
I honestly thought the whole mensa thing was just a bit
severe plank
didn't know it went this deep damn
light harbor
I honestly thought the whole mensa thing was just a bit
Apparently it was not
I thought it was a bit as well
wheat cobalt
hundreds of games on Slava and Sevastopol though btw
at least I do acknowledge that Sevas sucks
it's awful
wheat cobalt
Slava actually funnier now
lucid wagon
at least I do acknowledge that Sevas sucks
Yk what ship doesnt suck? Hector
severe plank
from what I recall it's a bunch of people obsessed with secondary ships
wheat cobalt
bc it gets normal alpha
cold geyser
20 game eu alt
severe plank
also they spam mensa soyjaks
light harbor
destoffel was an alt too
Not it isn't
indigo mountain
at least I do acknowledge that Sevas sucks
lucid wagon
Slava actually funnier now
yk i was actually playing Slava on the patch day and ngl i really like Slava now
light harbor
He has like 3k games on NA
eager pumice
You know the like
New T10 Soviet DD
Peredevoy
Have you guys seen the stats on it
little abyss
Unless you run into 32mm overmatch
indigo mountain
What if wg increases alpha on sevas, 1s reload better sigma and 20s heal cd off
+1 dcp and +10s base speedboost
radiant olive
You know the like
New T10 Soviet DD
Peredevoy
Have you guys seen the stats on ...
You can go look at the devblog for it
lucid wagon
All ive seen so far is that the Fuyutsukis and Peredovey Supertesters get absolutely nothing done
stiff burrow
You can go look at the devblog for it
ong hii
little abyss
32mm overmatch hard counters you
light harbor
You know the like
New T10 Soviet DD
Peredevoy
Have you guys seen the stats on ...
I've fought it twice today
dim bridge
At T8 the uptiered prince of wales is competing with ships like Massachusets, NC, Lenin, Vlad
cold geyser
then i was misled
lucid wagon
Go take a look and get back to me with what you think
is it extremely dumb good or just shit
cold geyser
but its completely irrelevant
light harbor
It really was not a threat at all
indigo mountain
Misled by common known
stiff burrow
đŒ
indigo mountain
radiant olive
That too
wheat cobalt
At T8 the uptiered prince of wales is competing with ships like Massachusets, NC...
Prince is a toxic car
little abyss
But otherwise you get to throttle juke all cruiser caliber HE and bounce all BB AP
Gg free
untold thistle
What's with fuyutsuki btw
eager pumice
is it extremely dumb good or just shit
It's
Just
Take a look at it
You'll understand
untold thistle
Is it an akizuki at t10
light harbor
Is it an akizuki at t10
Yes
light harbor
With no engine boost
wheat cobalt
fun perma fire gaming
light harbor
More hp and Im assuming better dpm?
No
stiff burrow
<:Stare1:641708819939852289>
gyattmaxxing!
untold thistle
But i swear she has more hp than a kitakaze
stiff burrow
ok Iâll dip now
light harbor
me when I have to fight turbo accurate car with KGV guns
Even now PoW is competitive with Rhode Island HE DPM
lucid wagon
It's
Just
Take a look at it
You'll understand
I could only find devblog changes but wtf is this bro?
lmao
CANNOT LAUNCH TORPS WITHOUT BEING SPOTTED
what the fuck is the point of the torps then
wheat cobalt
I could only find devblog changes but wtf is this bro?
eager pumice
I could only find devblog changes but wtf is this bro?
Yeah noone is discussing this thing's existence LOL
It's
Something
lucid wagon
you need an actual bot
wheat cobalt
this dev blog
eager pumice
People are meant to play that
plush smelt
dude this colbert range "buff" is annoying af
light harbor
"Low range"
looks inside
"Fast takeoff spotter"
lucid wagon
I honestly think the only reason people dont care about PoW is because the T8 BB realm is so oversaturated with op ass BBs
dim bridge
colbert did get buffed didnt it
lucid wagon
that an extra one doesnt change anything
dim bridge
shiiiiiit
light harbor
I honestly think the only reason people dont care about PoW is because the T8 BB...
Also she's just absurdly overpriced
plush smelt
colbert did get buffed didnt it
might as well be a nerf
eager pumice
CANNOT LAUNCH TORPS WITHOUT BEING SPOTTED
Look at the consumables
untold thistle
dude this colbert range "buff" is annoying af
Extra detect range when firing? Harder to escape when kiting at 13km?
plush smelt
yeah
dim bridge
I play colbert lighthouse
blazing quest
14km was kinda ideal
dim bridge
so doesnt change anything for me
blazing quest
Now it is eh
wheat cobalt
light harbor
yo this Peredovey thing just looks stupid
I've fought two in my Lushun today
untold thistle
top 3 worst DD ideas
You should see the pan am dds
light harbor
Neither were any kind of threat
lament birch
i liked 13.8 cause i can sit at the edge and disengage when wanted đ„
lucid wagon
Ok so you cannot launch torpedoes without being spotted.. her guns like kinda meh...? and you have a heavy repair team and speed boost
eager pumice
yo this Peredovey thing just looks stupid
Devblog lowkey asking people to run at the enemy and die
Imagine there's a tester being forced to play this
lucid wagon
so is this just torpboat lushun or some bullshit without good guns
and also worse at being a torpboat
then a gunboat that can act as a torpboat imo
severe plank
this is the second time a russian premium torpboat ended up being shit
light harbor
Devblog lowkey asking people to run at the enemy and die
Imagine there's a test...
There are
lucid wagon
I dont get it
light harbor
Those poor EPOXY players
lucid wagon
Like uhh, ok so you can only fire torpedoes when youre spotted
but i think most players would assume DD nearby + spotted = firing torpedoes
so like???
light harbor
Paulo but sad
lucid wagon
Paulo but sad
at least paulo can run it down w/ a suspicious crawling smoke and EXTREME speed
so you have a chance of pulling it off
lament birch
its khaba but this time its actually just outright shit lol
lucid wagon
im sorry but I dont see a Peredovey pulling it off on anybody but a 43% bot who wouldnt have done anything
light harbor
at least paulo can run it down w/ a suspicious crawling smoke and EXTREME speed
Like I said, Paulo but sad
wheat cobalt
bombo
grizzled relic
musashi fomaing at the mouth right now
lucid wagon
what is Cayuga?
light harbor
Tier 9 Vampire
eager pumice
what is Cayuga?
Another Tribal ig
wheat cobalt
it's a tribal class DD
it was real
it is equipped with 102mm guns
and it has toggle crawl smoke iirc
light harbor
Yes
eager pumice
light harbor
I saw one of those earlier today as well on my team
light harbor
and it has toggle crawl smoke iirc
I don't get that though
Isn't normal toggle smoke already kind of crawling smoke?
wheat cobalt
ngl the Conte Verde from what ive seen seems pretty bad
can't comment on that
or WG will kill me
lucid wagon
I watched some Conte Verde just get fucking nuked by a Vermont throug his bow if i remember correctly
so lmao
light harbor
ngl the Conte Verde from what ive seen seems pretty bad
25mm plating on a Lauria hull seems... problematic
rich dagger
is it just me, or is it always those who have UA in their clan/username that do the absolute dumbest crap in randoms/ranked
lucid wagon
OH WAIT I REMEMBER WHAT CONTE VERDE IS
LMAO
isnt the dogshit Italy BB with German detection 25mm plating
what an amazing idea
eager pumice
is it just me, or is it always those who have UA in their clan/username that do ...
This has been a general issue with people who have nation clan or username tags
light harbor
Lauria hull with Venezia guns basically
eager pumice
Like good players don't do that
light harbor
I feel like Venezia is just better from the stats
eager pumice
Maybe all raging nationalists are just dumb
lucid wagon
i feel like if youre an ultranationalist youre automatically udmb
rich dagger
Maybe all raging nationalists are just dumb
Or nationalists in general
eager pumice
Yeah basically
steel pier
Maybe all raging nationalists are just dumb
also, they are keen on insulting, not taking honest critique or tipps, how to do better
lucid wagon
Is it like wows golden rule; release a good Pan-Am BB and 6 ships that are all shit or just invisible because theyre a copy and paste
Sete de Setembro and Peredovey exist within the same relative timeframe
honest silo
Of what you guys are talking about?
lucid wagon
Of what you guys are talking about?
shitty test ships
eager pumice
Devblog ships
light harbor
Sete having fast cooldown superheal is... a Choice
honest silo
Oh, ok I see.
rich dagger
Is it like wows golden rule; release a good Pan-Am BB and 6 ships that are all s...
Pan America be like: One good ship followed by 4 shit ones
light harbor
Also the massive F-key buff
wheat cobalt
I do believe that it's Vanguard heal
rich dagger
Sete having fast cooldown superheal is... a Choice
Lessons from valp not learned
lucid wagon
im a supertester btw. I can confirm that Peredovey is ABSOLUTELY getting a cracked buff where her torpedoes get chateurenault treatment; i forgot range -> 20km range, 71 knots -> 108 knots, 14.5k alpha -> 72k Alpha
wheat cobalt
lucid wagon
be excited
lament birch
~~unironically needs it, would have suffered the same fate as vermont on release ~~
honest silo
What you guys think of the Pan American Minnesota?
steel pier
Lessons from valp not learned
what lesson? for them, all works as intended 
severe plank
What you guys think of the Pan American Minnesota?
skip
steel pier
What you guys think of the Pan American Minnesota?
nothing
light harbor
My bad
severe plank
saving those anniv tokens for SCs instead
lucid wagon
Sete de Setembro an anniversary ship lmao?
severe plank
I got yoshino out of them so my luck isn't too bad
rich dagger
They be taking everything from vanguard but buffs for her
lucid wagon
Good ships are not allowed to be anniversary ship
eager pumice
I mean tbf noone has actually played them here so it's hard to judge
lucid wagon
Kushiro is mid
honest silo
I honestly wish I had IJN Yoshino.
light harbor
I mean tbf noone has actually played them here so it's hard to judge
And the people that have played them can't say
eager pumice
Except Sevastopol main and they can't speak
lucid wagon
should i ask my friend who i think is a tester to leak all info heh
honest silo
Hey InterconKW.
wheat cobalt
should i ask my friend who i think is a tester to leak all info heh
bomboclat
lucid wagon
are testers allowed to play test ships in division because i have seen from photos they have test ships
but they never play them in div with me
idk the rules
light harbor
are testers allowed to play test ships in division because i have seen from phot...
I believe so
eager pumice
are testers allowed to play test ships in division because i have seen from phot...
I think they are
wheat cobalt
yes
light harbor
They just can't talk about the ships
lucid wagon
oh
wow ok bruh
so they didnt even give me the service of playing Turgut Reis whilst it was in testing
when i was grinding the dogshit called Halland line
light harbor
Why were you grinding Halland?
lucid wagon
because i heard it was bad
wheat cobalt
we are indeed not allowed to talk about test ship performance
lucid wagon
i wanted to see just how bad
wheat cobalt
and such
boreal fable
Ah cvs are such a flawed part of this damn game, our cv sucks ass and only wants to go strike the bbs for damage, red cv targets me as the dd and perma hovers me
1stly cvs shouldnt be able to do that
2nd cv skill df literally wins or loses games
light harbor
Just get yourself a Dalarna
lucid wagon
we are indeed not allowed to talk about test ship performance
dont talk about the performance! = dont tell the playerbase its ass/op as fuck
boreal fable
God I hate cvs
light harbor
Dalarna has working AA I hear
wheat cobalt
well
lucid wagon
how does one become a tester anyways
boreal fable
Can't even play ragnar, which ahs good aa. Because then I get 50 bots that turbo send into spawn for no reason
lucid wagon
i have played game for 9 years they should make me one
let me in
qualifications; idfk i play this game pls
wheat cobalt
either through clan in the program
boreal fable
Ah my lord I'm malding over these damn cv scum
wheat cobalt
or sta and then st
eager pumice
dont talk about the performance! = dont tell the playerbase its ass/op as fuck
Testers can't share anything like personal opinions
Just whatever is on the dev blog which is in the open
torn goblet
don't play test ships, play ships that have already broken your will and your wallet.
test ships are for people who wanna read instructions and test things.
lucid wagon
either through clan in the program
idk if you can answer this but is it genuinely just "if you join X testing clan you AUTOMATICALLY get priviledges" because that sounds like a bad idea
torn goblet
you wanna blow shit up.
light harbor
If you're a tester you have to play a certain number of games in a test ship
lucid wagon
i think its fairly obvious im joking
light harbor
idk if you can answer this but is it genuinely just "if you join X testing clan ...
No
There's an internal application process
cedar raft
i think its fairly obvious im joking
hmmm
lucid wagon
ok then
lament birch
its a monotonous job to begin with 
eager pumice
If you're a tester you have to play a certain number of games in a test ship
Which probably takes a lot of time that people like me don't have
light harbor
Indeed
severe plank
if I put on a paper mask that just says wg employee on it does that get me banned
light harbor
That's part of why I didn't apply for ST or CST
cedar raft
if I put on a paper mask that just says wg employee on it does that get me banne...
according to the rules, yeah
light harbor
I'm dealing with enough problems IRL
steel pier
you missed the recruitment
torn goblet
if I put on a paper mask that just says wg employee on it does that get me banne...
find out
severe plank
I left my disguise kit
rich dagger
soviet BB mains in ranked istg
light harbor
Will the world even be here in two years?
torn goblet
put the mask on and tell me how much you get paid
light harbor
That is the question
lucid wagon
will Wows be here in 2y; probably
severe plank
I can't wait to play wows on september 17, 2027
lucid wagon
will the world be here in 2y; yeah def
lucid wagon
WoWs can last for awhile because the cash cow that is WoT exists
they will payroll us forever
acoustic lily
will the world be here in 2y; yeah def
Not if I become the german cancellor
eager pumice
It's a beautiful day in Guangdong
Actually no it's not it's freaking hot
I haven't gone out all day
lucid wagon
Actually no it's not it's freaking hot
yeah like who are you lying too lmao
light harbor
Yeah it's awful here too
lucid wagon
for the last week its been excessive heat
light harbor
40C+
severe plank
It's too hot here
every time I look outside the bus there's a good chance I see someone pass out because of heat stroke
lucid wagon
40C+ <:Dashaha:1079231213677584515>
Taipei during the day
it reaches like 30C
which doesnt sound bad
severe plank
it's actually kinda awful
lucid wagon
but then the humidity is like fucking
torn goblet
*Looks outside*
i havent looked outside since i started playing. my curtains are welded shut. im safe
lucid wagon
95% or some bullshit
torn goblet
in fact WoWs is all that will exist in 2 years
eager pumice
34 feels like 39 thanks to the humidity
tawdry turret
You're old
i mean tempa
lucid wagon
đ
tawdry turret
you ever use those heat indexes
i actually do
lucid wagon
apparently 27C w/ 80-85% humidity rn
light harbor
severe plank
light harbor
Help me
lucid wagon
makes it 36C
lucid wagon
holy shit wtf
acoustic lily
Enter the fridge. Problem solved plus no more long way to eat food
severe plank
last I checked the average temperature during the day is around 39-40 C
with like 30%+ humidity
steel pier
ouch
severe plank
wouldn't it be funny if the power also went out and left the entire block to boil
light harbor
holy shit wtf
India during the summer sucks
light harbor
Good thing it's almost over
untold thistle
Suffer with us
light harbor
Suffer with us
One way or another I won't be sufferring for too long
steel pier
we also have alr 30 °C and this in May đ„
severe plank
still tho
light harbor
Yikes
lucid wagon
that was pretty fucking awful
severe plank
39C and that's still not stopping me from drinking hot coffee and wearing a sweater
light harbor
But yeah monsoon will be here in like 3 weeks
severe plank
I might ditch the sweater tho
torn goblet
lol
light harbor
I can't wait
edgy marten
Taipei presumably has bubble tea
light harbor
Glorious rain
edgy marten
So it's all good
untold thistle
39C and that's still not stopping me from drinking hot coffee and wearing a swea...
I don't drink coffee but Filipinos do that often too
honest silo
Hey Hot_Potato_Gruel.
steel pier
i pray each day, for a large thunderstorm, with lots and lots of rain 
severe plank
I want typhoon season to come back man
torn goblet
philosophical existential doomer questions followed by extensive weather discussion
untold thistle
I want typhoon season to come back man
As a Filipino, no
untold thistle
philosophical existential doomer questions followed by extensive weather discuss...
Weather leads to a lot of existentialism in all honesty
torn goblet
Weather leads to a lot of existentialism in all honesty
oneheart - snowfall
what am i here for?
lucid wagon
I want typhoon season to come back man
i disagree
Typhoon seasons have been a little ridiculous recently
untold thistle
I'm somehow in a state of dreading life and just living with it
torn goblet
rain is just practice storm
tawdry turret
I want typhoon season to come back man
bro forgot that one islandic country
light harbor
Typhoon seasons have been a little ridiculous recently
Global Warming
tawdry turret
shields everything
severe plank
...
untold thistle
bro forgot that one islandic country
I wonder
torn goblet
I'm somehow in a state of dreading life and just living with it
wrote about this yesterday
the glass meridian i call it
light harbor
untold thistle
there was another
Truly a Pacific moment
lucid wagon
gotta remember my trip to TW
lol that too
ancient monolith
gotta remember my trip to TW
you went to total war?
lucid wagon
Truly a Pacific moment
you know the funny thing is
untold thistle
gotta remember my trip to TW
Visit meiko
lucid wagon
it doesnt do that much damage nor does it like lead to many deaths
tawdry turret
Visit meiko
maybe 
tawdry turret
you went to total war?
there was a tropical storm
light harbor
That does make sense
untold thistle
it doesnt do that much damage nor does it like lead to many deaths
looks at the Philippines losing millions of dollars per super typhoon
light harbor
This still annoys me -.-
torn goblet
lol
lucid wagon
*looks at the Philippines losing millions of dollars per super typhoon*
yk that reminds me
During Typhoon Doksuri ( @tawdry turret ) the Typhoon hit us
kinda ruined the years farmers
untold thistle
This still annoys me -.-
Is hope_to_die allowed
lucid wagon
then went onto obliterate China and the Philippines
and that literally happens every single time to us
light harbor
Somehow heart_my_cross is allowed but cross_my_heart is not
lucid wagon
we get the least of it followed by MASS DESTRUCTION in China and Philippines
untold thistle
Ever just have a typhoon do a rebound
lucid wagon
yeah
grizzled relic
also what
torn goblet
yeah crossing your heart and hoping to die isn't as unique as you thought
torn goblet
kinda been around for some time.
untold thistle
Somehow heart\_my\_cross is allowed but cross\_my\_heart is not
Cross_my_heart probably gets flag because of suicide or something
Heart_my_cross is moreso religious if anything
light harbor
yeah crossing your heart and hoping to die isn't as unique as you thought
I'm aware?
torn goblet
I'm aware?
whyd you try it then?
light harbor
I was checking if it was available
torn goblet
lol
light harbor
Being forbidden was the weird part
torn goblet
probably cause they got banned
untold thistle
So cross_my_heart isn't allowed but the follow up is đ
lucid wagon
Honestly im really thankful that all the typhoons recently just kinda did nothing (to at least my country)
light harbor
Yes
honest silo
lucid wagon
because in 2009 or 2010 (I think it was) we got absolutely fucked
untold thistle
Like
light harbor
I don't get it
untold thistle
Isn't hoping to die worse
light harbor
It's why I made a ticket about it
untold thistle
During Typhoon Doksuri ( <@814511295893471262> ) the Typhoon hit us
I really don't remember international typhoon names
jolly tartan
oof
lucid wagon
I really don't remember international typhoon names
i just remember it because me and Kowatari
untold thistle
Local names
honest silo
Hey Submarine_M1.
lucid wagon
spoke about it recently
jolly tartan
Hey Submarine_M1.
hi
lucid wagon
the only actual typhoon i remember is Morakot
untold thistle
I only really remember local names
lucid wagon
because Morakot was insane for us
jolly tartan
how r you
untold thistle
Ever heard of Yolanda?
severe plank
also called haiyan
light harbor
Ever heard of Yolanda?
That does ring a bell actually
lucid wagon
and did nothing else
severe plank
it obliterated the funny archipelago
untold thistle
That does ring a bell actually
Haiyan is the international name
tawdry turret
i rmb that one storm that was moving through Phil, about to hit Vietnam then turned around and hit China's Hainan
untold thistle
it obliterated the funny archipelago
I wonder who lives in said archipelago
tawdry turret
Haiyan is the international name
I hate it
severe plank
as if this place doesn't already get pounded by typhoons every november or so
lucid wagon
Haiyan (2013) killed 8 people; Morakot killed 672 (2009) so we tend to remember Morakot more, as Morakot was like our worst fucking Typhoon ever
severe plank
yeah I wonder who
torn goblet
Whats the best vietnamese philippines food?
untold thistle
Whats the best vietnamese philippines food?
French bread or chao long
eager pumice
Azuma kind of makes bank actually
For not doing anything
torn goblet
French bread or chao long
whats chao long in english?
tawdry turret
literally my finalterm's literature exam back in high school
"What is the color of Haiyan storm?"
untold thistle
whats chao long in english?
Beef broth?
tawdry turret
whats chao long in english?
Porridge
tawdry turret
Beef broth?
oh this too
light harbor
"What is the color of Haiyan storm?"
Purple according to wikipedia
lucid wagon
is anyone here Filipino
severe plank
what else do I know of the funny archipelago uhh
jolly tartan
How are you?
im good
eager pumice
is anyone here Filipino
don't curse people this way
untold thistle
is anyone here Filipino
Im part of the greater south china sea so
jolly tartan
Nice to hear.
yup
severe plank
nah I live just beyond the great ice wall
lucid wagon
French bread <a:NOPE:1300667416027729940>
Vietnamese people hate the French
i wonder why..
hmmm
untold thistle
It's quite literally a not-baguette bisected on the long side
lucid wagon
<a:ouh:1277098867074273372>
you should speak to one of the clan members
they fought a war in your country by the way
untold thistle
It's not even a baguette
lucid wagon
for US of A
tawdry turret
they fought a war in your country by the way
Lmao what
untold thistle
Which is probably why it's called french bread
And not a baguette
Since it's almost but not really a baguette
But still looks like it
untold thistle
I was about to reply to that...
severe plank
reply to what?
light harbor
i wonder why..
Truly a mystery
untold thistle
Can vampires live in the Mariana's trench
tawdry turret
1968-1969, 1970-1971
oh
untold thistle
Oh speaking of vietnam
torn goblet
I think Vietnam is too busy having a good time than to be angry with the French.
digital locust
I always heard Vietnamese are ok with French and hate muricans
untold thistle
My city has a place dedicated to them
tawdry turret
why are we speaking of vietnam anw 
tawdry turret
I always heard Vietnamese are ok with French and hate muricans
depends on ppl
im just cool with everyone
u can also ask dihtuah
torn goblet
Yeah, vietnamese people are chill.
untold thistle
We have a mini-vietnam called Vietville
tawdry turret
or oranjejuice
torn goblet
That one dude uh... tran twong or something. on youtube.
lucid wagon
that sounds so racist lmao
lucid wagon
"vietvlle"
torn goblet
hes cool.
severe plank
Yeah, vietnamese people are chill.
chill? hardly, have you seen how hot it is in SEA right now?
torn goblet
chill? hardly, have you seen how hot it is in SEA right now?
where that?
lucid wagon
Southeast Asia
untold thistle
"vietvlle"
It was for the Vietnamese refugees who refused to leave during the repatriation efforts
tawdry turret
south east asia
lucid wagon
is what SEA stands for
tawdry turret
or sea
torn goblet
oh, no, but yeah
tawdry turret
It was for the Vietnamese refugees who refused to leave during the repatriation ...
i know
torn goblet
its kinda warm here too
tawdry turret
better not talk about it
light harbor
Try 40C
lucid wagon
lmao
torn goblet
bro you have not experienced
explain
lucid wagon
38C w/ 70% humidity is not for faint of heart
light harbor
It is 6:30pm here at it's still 39C
untold thistle
Try 40C <:Dashaha:1079231213677584515>
Why are you in India anyway
severe plank
Try 40C <:Dashaha:1079231213677584515>
with 49% humidity on top of that
light harbor
Why are you in India anyway
It's home
light harbor
I came back home for stuff
lucid wagon
explain
For example, in Taiwan, where i am the avg temperature can reach upto 32-36C right? But the humidity levels in taiwan are ridiculous
torn goblet
isn't 50C pretty bad?
quasi garnet
its kinda warm here too
"Kinda warm" MAN I'M BAKING
torn goblet
ah, ok
tawdry turret
For example, in Taiwan, where i am the avg temperature can reach upto 32-36C rig...
literally an island
lucid wagon
so ontop of the already high temperature you also get extreme humidity levels
plush smelt
MIDDLE ON TWO BROTHERS IS OP
tawdry turret
high humidity is understandable
untold thistle
MIDDLE ON TWO BROTHERS IS OP
And people hate Two Brothers
lucid wagon
sometimes when i go outside it literally feels like im drowning
plush smelt
lowkey ran into a libertad full HP at 3 km and somehow lived
untold thistle
What the fuck
Two brothers mid has access to the two flanks so
torn goblet
I am in average about 60% humidity
light harbor
Two brothers mid has access to the two flanks so
I've literally never broken over a kraken at any tier besides super low tier
torn goblet
it be rain season
honest silo
I still need to improve with Laffey.
plush smelt
my W gigachad shikishima teammate ran it down middle with me too
lucid wagon
I've literally never broken over a kraken at any tier besides super low tier
my best run was Tirpitz w/ 8 kills
lel
tawdry turret
sometimes when i go outside it literally feels like im drowning
but when its winter its colder
iirc
untold thistle
I've literally never broken over a kraken at any tier besides super low tier
Wanna bet cirzoo ratted some kills
lucid wagon
my best run was Tirpitz w/ 8 kills
this btw was kinda rigged
weary cobalt
is the yodo line still incredibly ass
ancient monolith
last battle was so boring I almost fell from my chair
untold thistle
is the yodo line still incredibly ass
Yes
lucid wagon
yo you know what fucking sucks
plush smelt
Wanna bet cirzoo ratted some kills
nah trust i killed them all solo no kill steals for sure đŻđŻ
lucid wagon
Whenever i divved in T8 with friends
light harbor
nah trust i killed them all solo no kill steals for sure đŻđŻ
Show damage page
untold thistle
my W gigachad shikishima teammate ran it down middle with me too
Isn't THROW a KotS clan?
I swear I've seen them
light harbor
Hurricane so probably
plush smelt
W 569 HP kill steal
light harbor
Unless they're an EU version of YEEZY
lucid wagon
Unless they're an EU version of YEEZY
What does that mean
I know of YEEZY because i see them alot
plush smelt
tbf all my other kills were like over half the HP of damage so i think those are valid
light harbor
YEEZY is a clan with so many rulebreaking people that they physically can't field a KotS team at their actual skill level
light harbor
Also they're toxic assholes
lucid wagon
YEEZY is a clan with so many rulebreaking people that they physically can't fiel...
lmao actually
oh damn
light harbor
YEEZY/EEPY membership is like
lucid wagon
you know that reminds me a PNDAS member went into my contact messages after i made fun of him
light harbor
A huge red flag
lucid wagon
for dying in the stupidest way possible
lucid wagon
YEEZY/EEPY membership is like
oh i also see EEPY a lot
i thought they'd be chill based on their clan tag
untold thistle
i thought they'd be chill based on their clan tag
If only people stayed true to their clan tags/names
tawdry turret
If only people stayed true to their clan tags/names
we can make the 40WR clan
and everyone gets 40% wr
untold thistle
we can make the 40WR clan
Can you?
tawdry turret
or the 300PR
digital locust
Getting 40wr is quite difficult
radiant olive
tbh i kite all the time
digital locust
You have to actually try
lucid wagon
what kite clans are there
light harbor
This is true
digital locust
300 pr is easier than 40 wr
light harbor
KITE, KITED, KITER, KITEM, KITEZ
lucid wagon
yo how many fucking KITES are there
radiant olive
....'bout a few
lucid wagon
the next Penetration Nation lmao
torn goblet
yo how many fucking KITES are there
whoa racist
radiant olive
by FAR
light harbor
Still is, yes
untold thistle
yo how many fucking KITES are there
KITE is prob the Og
light harbor
They imploded relatively recently but I don't know the details
light harbor
KITE is prob the Og
Relatively recent merger actually
plush smelt
the fact that I survive the libertad encounter
obsidian oriole
Oh, supercontainer from daily
obsidian oriole
7 days of premium, that's good
lucid wagon
PN67 (assuming that was a joke one)
untold thistle
I fought against boggzy once
Feared for my life in Algerie
His team was full of reds though
light harbor
PN67 is EEPY now
light harbor
I don't know
lucid wagon
the only other 'group' clan i can think of is MACH
light harbor
I just know that they did
plush smelt
@radiant olive do you deal with every sub the same or does it differ
digital locust
I fought against boggzy once <:Dashaha:1079231213677584515>
Feared for my life ...
Imagine you play turgut reis and run into snarf
tawdry turret
oh yes MACH
light harbor
the only other 'group' clan i can think of is MACH
MACH is a super recent merger
tawdry turret
i c a lot
light harbor
Like, happened earlier this year recent
lucid wagon
MACH is a super recent merger
why do their members either turn out to be complete dogshit