game-discussion

[eager pumice]

radar? utility? armor? we don't need this

[honest silo]

Hey InterconKW.

[tawdry turret]

buonasera

[eager pumice]

oh look
an enemy Hannover

you know what time it is

[trail salmon]

what argument

me wanna see

[lucid wagon]

it was an argument about what makes a player good

that turned into a political argument + name shaming + racism

[trail salmon]

😭

[honest silo]

Hey SymboliRudolf.

[boreal fable]

Every single game there's 3 napoli bots that walk into red base and die without ever shooting their guns

[lucid wagon]

Hello

[trail salmon]

how is that possible

[boreal fable]

Why bro

These griefers are so annoying

[tawdry turret]

oh wow

[lucid wagon]

Oh because they were arguing

and the NA dude was apart of a chinese clan

[trail salmon]

😭

[tawdry turret]

What are their names

[boreal fable]

Asia is kinda unplayable atm

[tawdry turret]

Random letters?

[trail salmon]

chinese clans just sit prekited no?

[boreal fable]

yup

[lucid wagon]

na

but then they started saying slurs

[trail salmon]

😭

[tawdry turret]

Those are bots

The shits got bad

[honest silo]

Hey DoctorRyzen.

[boreal fable]

Hey

[tawdry turret]

I thought they would stop at Boise, but I found Riga, Nurnberg'44 and Munchen

[trail salmon]

im so gassed i stayed up all night playing wows

[tawdry turret]

Atp anyone in asia could be an actual bot

[trail salmon]

^

[tawdry turret]

like not those where we joked about

I'm not even joking

I just had a Yorktown rushes into cap at the start of the game

[boreal fable]

But it's like I always get actual bots on my team, not bot like a player who is bad. Like chat gpt got control of the WASD of this damn boat, just no access to the mouse ig cuz they neevr shoot

[trail salmon]

i can play yorktown on asia

[tawdry turret]

I know

[trail salmon]

if you need a someone with a brain

except im dedge

[boreal fable]

How does one play ragnar is a game where you insta lose your support because they walk into red bae

[trail salmon]

carry harder

ragnar is inherently underpowered

[tawdry turret]

I only need umagirl who carries my stats

[boreal fable]

I've identified the bots by blacklisting them

Ig we're even

[trail salmon]

😭 what about a nature presenter

[tawdry turret]

The numbers are players

Only the ones with random letters

[boreal fable]

Nah I blacklisted them in a battle previously, not just now. SO their actions proved them to be a bot

[tawdry turret]

that sucks

[trail salmon]

i blacklist people who die for no reason at all

like when they just int

[tawdry turret]

That DM gameplay should also be blacklisted

[trail salmon]

😭

i was multitasking

[lucid wagon]

wait what

what dm gameplay?

[eager pumice]

yeah I'm living my national stereotype right now

[boreal fable]

Elbing salvoes are just so epic

Always

[eager pumice]

prekited 21km farming midrushing Asian players with big HE

[trail salmon]

lowk thats what i do in yumihari

but like

i miss all my salvos

[cunning lichen]

Those are rookie numbers

[untold thistle]

me with 64% wr regardless

[trail salmon]

so like i was playing DM in a division with kowa and uhh, i died

[boreal fable]

Into a libertad

[trail salmon]

i got peeds

from an archerfish

[lucid wagon]

oh like what happened in C. Colombo game

[cunning lichen]

Those are rookie numbers

[lucid wagon]

where you got devstruck or smth

[trail salmon]

yes

[tawdry turret]

Could have gotten more

[trail salmon]

where i ate peeds

bc i have 3 tasks at the same time

[tawdry turret]

Im multitasking too

I'm also breathing

[untold thistle]

smh, david

[tawdry turret]

while playing

[untold thistle]

look at my yumihari wr

[trail salmon]

that aint me 😭

im uhh

[untold thistle]

you suck in yumihari

[trail salmon]

more bleak

i do

bc i miss

thats why i play croooooozer

so i can go pewpewpewpew

[boreal fable]

By what standards

[untold thistle]

dude, I dont even have 4pt heal

[lucid wagon]

are any of you 3 on to play

solo randoms sucks

[boreal fable]

Oh my god there's so many bots bro

[cunning lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-gif-26135237

[trail salmon]

im at the airport

[tawdry turret]

where r u going

[trail salmon]

home

[tawdry turret]

where home

[trail salmon]

philadelphia

[lucid wagon]

can u get on

[honest silo]

Hey NoBrainZao.

[untold thistle]

huh

[tawdry turret]

omg div

[lucid wagon]

EU div

im playing Jinan again

also because stomp bot divisions are on rn

[trail salmon]

fun car

[untold thistle]

i can farm in meck then

[lucid wagon]

i had an awful time in Sejong lmao

i was performing so bad

[boreal fable]

That's pretty good for 5 shells I recon

[untold thistle]

dont forget your commander

[tawdry turret]

[cunning lichen]

https://tenor.com/view/rookie-numbers-rookie-numbers-gif-gif-25047417

[lucid wagon]

ok that was really annoying

[honest silo]

I will for sure do tomorrow randoms.

[lucid wagon]

i was so pissed

the extra 140k~ DPM wouldve been so useful

against killing the two libertads

[boreal fable]

These are 100% bots

[untold thistle]

blud forgot AR in jinan 🥀

[boreal fable]

Either bots or tier 1 gamers that somehow got to tier 10

[lucid wagon]

do you have build viewere

lel

[untold thistle]

i think

i didnt have it on during that game

[cunning lichen]

I just

Dont believe some of these "players" are human

But then again bots would genuinely play better

[boreal fable]

Bots don't use their guns at all

[lucid wagon]

@tawdry turret div

[tawdry turret]

im switching to EU rn

[cunning lichen]

They do, they just miss

[lucid wagon]

ok

[tawdry turret]

no

we mean

those things didn't even shoot

[boreal fable]

No the bots im talking about that are appearing in Asia rn, they walk into red spawn without ever firing a shell

[tawdry turret]

they just go in

you have to go try assia rn

they dont do anything

[lucid wagon]

rangemod Jinan

[tawdry turret]

except rushing

[lucid wagon]

hmmmm

[boreal fable]

It's so frustrating

0 gain from this btw

Why do this

Pls ban afk gamers

bot gamers

[untold thistle]

did they even fix the camera bug yet

[digital locust]

I mean it probably takes 10 minutes to write a functioning bot in claude

Don't expect high quality vibe coding results

[boreal fable]

If you are an outlier on the negative part of the bell curve, you should get banned from randoms until 10 co-op battles or smth

[light harbor]

Aslain removed consumable monitor from the modpack so it might be a mod issue?

[boreal fable]

That would be a good rule

[honest silo]

With all honesty guys.

I usually avoid randoms during weekend.

[lucid wagon]

Yo wtf is EU even about

😭

116 battleships to 12 cruisers

[boreal fable]

Usually this isnt a problem

[honest silo]

No idea.

[tawdry turret]

bounty

[boreal fable]

But now it is

[untold thistle]

holy fuck

[boreal fable]

The year oif the cruiser man

[tawdry turret]

wow that pic

[honest silo]

For me it was always tbh.

[lucid wagon]

go back

go back

[untold thistle]

@tawdry turret GO BACK

QUIT QUE

[light harbor]

Just play a destroyer and free farm

[tawdry turret]

its been a while ever since i see sherper

[lucid wagon]

BRO

KOWA

GO BACK

[untold thistle]

you fool

[lucid wagon]

LOL

[tawdry turret]

bro wtf

[untold thistle]

YOU UTTER FOOL

WE GOT OCEAN

[dull birch]

So which side are you on
Millenial or gen z

[tawdry turret]

bro i turn the shit back on and its already loading

[honest silo]

As I always got horrible battle during the weekend.

[boreal fable]

tromp technology

[lucid wagon]

BRO

ITS OCEAN AS WELL

OCEAN IN JINAN

LMAO

[digital locust]

What is Boomer /genx marketing?

[dull birch]

Beats me

Ah you mean this 😂

[lament birch]

[honest silo]

Where you got that?

[lucid wagon]

devstruck in Jinan

on ocean

we love Ocean

[honest silo]

Nice.

[steel flax]

[honest silo]

Hey AttilioRegolo.

[steel flax]

I like ships that go boom boom

[steel flax]

yo

[ancient monolith]

zombie gaming sunday, what a surprise 😄

[honest silo]

I think I will grind some more credits with Illinois in Asymmetrics.

[steel flax]

I can get my wife again chat

I am NOT resetting again

[honest silo]

The Destroyer Attilio Regolo?

[steel flax]

yuh

I actually play decent on adriatico

😭 😭

[honest silo]

Nice.

[steel flax]

my game last night I got kicked out of the game

[honest silo]

Do you have Paolo Emilio the sister ship of Attilio Regolo?

[steel flax]

because disconnection

[steel flax]

nope

[steel flax]

But when I came back

I legit rushed the enemy

got 2 bounty hunter medal

and bullied the battleships

[light harbor]

They call me the Rhode Island gamer

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[light harbor]

@white shale GG

What was that about Tom Cruise at the start of the game?

[honest silo]

For sure I will save my coal for get one this.

[coral herald]

@honest silo hello

I see that you're in game

Wanna div up when you finish your battle?

[honest silo]

Yeah.

[eager pumice]

Azuma Gaming

I think I'm getting 10% dumber

[untold thistle]

that happens when i play azuma too

[lucid wagon]

why is it in the EU i cannot be fed free damage in Jinan

like NA feeds me so much free damage

[eager pumice]

just press 1

[lucid wagon]

you gotta chase shit in the EU

[tawdry turret]

because EU

[ancient monolith]

my god, this morning it's dumb and dumber

[honest silo]

@coral herald I'm in voice chat.

Division 1.

[light harbor]

NA is the better server

[eager pumice]

ASIA RUSH MIIIIIID

[tawdry turret]

is that yorktown

name

is random letters?

[digital locust]

There are up to 11 idiots on your team. There are up to 12 idiots on opponent team. Stop whining, start carrying

[tawdry turret]

must be a bot again

[light harbor]

Hey look it's a W

[eager pumice]

ASIA RUSH MIIIIID

[tawdry turret]

thats a bot

that yorktown

[lucid wagon]

i avged a shitty 85k in Jinan

because both times

[tawdry turret]

i met it earlier

[lucid wagon]

i had to fucking chase after

battlecruisers and BBs

lmao

[light harbor]

It do be like that

[digital locust]

I mean I would bot too if i had to grind CV

[lucid wagon]

world of bots

[digital locust]

World of clankers

[light harbor]

Aw

[indigo mountain]

gg

wg will ban bots only in the name selection

[light harbor]

Cross is also banned for some reason

[indigo mountain]

iron_cross_1942_prpr

[light harbor]

I tried to use 'cross_my_heart' and it didn't work

[lucid wagon]

Heil_Hitler88

[indigo mountain]

maybe its bcs religius symbol

[light harbor]

There's literally someone named Cross in my clan community

[tawdry turret]

[indigo mountain]

theres sadly alot of similar names around

thats close enough to wows right?

[light harbor]

Okay seriously

[lucid wagon]

Heil_HitlerHH18890420

[indigo mountain]

new submarine T30 leaked

[lucid wagon]

subscribe to my new username

[indigo mountain]

i rather not

[light harbor]

All those are allowed but this isn't?

[lucid wagon]

too edgy

[indigo mountain]

i mean they could be old

[digital locust]

Its heart

[light harbor]

[honest silo]

Hey Grafe.

[indigo mountain]

wows numbers wouldnt know

bcs they get looked at once then renamed/banned

[tawdry turret]

lmao

[lucid wagon]

@tawdry turret yo who is this rando

that joined our div

[tawdry turret]

wat

[lucid wagon]

oh the only other guy online

for like 30 seconds

joined the open div

[light harbor]

Wait this is allowed

[indigo mountain]

sus

[lucid wagon]

punish_my_BB

Shoot_deepintomycheeks is what Mostima would use

[indigo mountain]

beware tho wg will warn you if you say things like "ass, ape or piss" in chat

[lucid wagon]

considering they call a citadel through the bow "Deepcheek"

[light harbor]

Mostima is weird

[indigo mountain]

deepseek

[tawdry turret]

punish_my_BBooti

[lucid wagon]

one of the people in my alt's clan

[edgy marten]

😳

[light harbor]

I do know someone who renamed themselves to VonSuccHerOff

[lucid wagon]

is named BButcrack

[indigo mountain]

BBaby_soul_harvester

[light harbor]

But cross_my_heart is not allowed

[lucid wagon]

BBloodborne_Cruiser_SoulHarvester

plays C. Colombo, Wisconsin, and Bungo only

[edgy marten]

maybe it's because it thinks its religious

since "cross"

[light harbor]

There is literally someone named _Cross in my clan community

[edgy marten]

yes, but that's _cross

not cross

[indigo mountain]

cresent_moon_warrior_qouran

[eager pumice]

ASIA RUSH MIIIIID

[tawdry turret]

bro

wth

[edgy marten]

oh

maybe changing the capitalization would work

CroSS_my_heart

[light harbor]

No

I will let you think for a moment as to why that's a bad idea

[lucid wagon]

SS

[edgy marten]

= submarine

duh

)

[lucid wagon]

yeah bro totally

BB_SSMember1942

[light harbor]

._.

[edgy marten]

there's already some of that crowd on EU

[light harbor]

Bold of you to assume they're only on EU

[lucid wagon]

name yourself ___SexMachine

like PolishSexMachine

[edgy marten]

or

[lucid wagon]

wherever country you come from

[edgy marten]

Heart_my_cross

[light harbor]

No

[edgy marten]

wait, no, that sounds worse

[light harbor]

[lucid wagon]

FiddleMyCross

[light harbor]

More religious = good apparently

[lucid wagon]

I_love_JesusChrist

[ancient monolith]

damn it's not today i'll get to up my level 20 commander

[light harbor]

Pretty sure I've seen someone with that username in-game

[lucid wagon]

wows NA is dead

[ancient monolith]

and EU is dumb

[lucid wagon]

this game is dead

[tawdry turret]

just rest and we play later

[ancient monolith]

maybe asia is ok

[tawdry turret]

[light harbor]

Also it's dead hours for NA

[lucid wagon]

i like how i have to play into night

[tawdry turret]

nvm

[lucid wagon]

because i live in Taiwan so i get fucked by my own timezone

[light harbor]

I ran into a triple SCCC div and decided to call it quits after that

[lucid wagon]

@tawdry turret I'll probably just make another alt for EU for you and aegle

i dont want to play Jinan anymore

[tawdry turret]

y r u even in NA in the first place

[honest silo]

Of what you guys are talking about?

[lucid wagon]

too unreliable

[lucid wagon]

honestly i have no idea why

i am in NA

but its like FAR too late to stop now

[light harbor]

It do be like that

[steel flax]

https://tenor.com/view/btmc-overstreaming-how-osuhow-impossible-gif-21436109

[light harbor]

I'm also in an asian timezone but I play on NA

[lucid wagon]

EU players are equally as idiotic but they're the kite and play at 16km+ type of player

from what ive seen

so Jinan feels like a struggle

[light harbor]

The answer is to play Smolensk clearly

[eager pumice]

Asia right now?
My team rushes B at the start of the match
Hipper and Zieten through B
they actually get kills

[light harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-simple-its-shrimple-gif-25735431

[steel flax]

I love using san diego when theres a cv

[eager pumice]

The whole A cap becomes a thunderdome of both teams charging each other

I'm losing brain cells please help

HE farm long range Azuma

[light harbor]

Just stop playing Azuma

Play Conqueror instead

[eager pumice]

I'm 80% WR rn

it works

[rare schooner]

Found 1 build for Riga!

Source Document: wo.ws/builds

Click the button(s) to open a build.

[eager pumice]

people rush mid and I farm them

[light harbor]

It do be like that

[lucid wagon]

all quiet

[light harbor]

I do love cruisers

Huh

[honest silo]

Of what ship are those two?

[light harbor]

One is a battleship and the other is a cruiser

[digital locust]

Play Valparaiso. It increased my IQ to 79%

[stiff burrow]

holy hawk tuah valparisussy mentioned

yeehaw!

https://tenor.com/view/stink-eye-cat-stink-eye-cat-yo-gif-14923566734053967608

[tawdry turret]

i realized no one is trying to shoot that PR so i just left

[stiff burrow]

hi Vietnamese furry

🌹 🌹 🌹

[tawdry turret]

also we're winning with all 3 red caps smh

[stiff burrow]

I love coffeee

https://tenor.com/view/qorvi-coffee-drink-cat-yummy-gif-17363613501256831510

why would they feed a cat that

badger

bad gif

fuck

[digital locust]

It's not coffee, it's Starbucks

[stiff burrow]

so it’s sugar with a little bit of coffee?

[tawdry turret]

idk

is that frappucino

it is

[stiff burrow]

yes

sugar milk

🥀

[tawdry turret]

starbucks special beverage

[stiff burrow]

deadass all it tastes like to me is sugar milk

the bottle frapp

[honest silo]

Nice.

How are Soviet Cruiser?

[tawdry turret]

[stiff burrow]

Moskva ?

🔥

[ancient monolith]

I got the cossack with a free hunt for bismarck try lol

[honest silo]

Tech Tree also, not only premium.

[stiff burrow]

Is this good or bad

[tawdry turret]

solid

[stiff burrow]

How will this affect the trout population

Someone laugh

[tawdry turret]

gotta ask The Deep

[digital locust]

There's a free try?

[stiff burrow]

1 dollar

afaik

[ancient monolith]

no idea, it's T8 DD

[digital locust]

Ain't worth that much

[tawdry turret]

the ones that you exchange from the hunt tokens

[stiff burrow]

I got a 1 dollar two try

[honest silo]

I mean like Petropavlosk line and the Light Cruiser one if not wrong?

[ancient monolith]

when you do the hunting target thing

[honest breach]

damn what a competitive game

[stiff burrow]

Sir this is game discusy

Go back to off-topic you furry

[honest silo]

Hey andersswage.

[hybrid whale]

That offensive

[stiff burrow]

Furry Is not derogatory

politics in warship game 🥀

[hybrid whale]

Im a slut not a furry dammit

[stiff burrow]

oh I see

oh good bloodearth is here

[hybrid whale]

They’re lurking

[stiff burrow]

Lurkers

Smh

[hybrid whale]

They’re lurking in the background

[stiff burrow]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-camera-cat-camera-stare-cat-cat-lurk-gif-8952556141604473883

[hybrid whale]

Yoink

[stiff burrow]

😾

Guys should
I play asymm with zuck or Keksarge this morning

[torn dome]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/895722319438290964/1276175405908234290/your_actions.gif

[stiff burrow]

I am good at both ships

[hybrid whale]

Zuck

[stiff burrow]

secondaries are yummy…

mayhaps

[honest silo]

Before I mean this two line if they are good to grind? A part in general the Soviet Tech Tree.

[tawdry turret]

petro

[stiff burrow]

pedtro is good

[honest silo]

What about the A. Nevsky?

[light harbor]

She's also good

[opaque latch]

Both are good

[light harbor]

Not as good as Petro but pretty solid

[opaque latch]

But since you already got riga, might aswwll

[minor merlin]

what even were the choices for t9

i forgot what i had

[light harbor]

Izumo, Riga, Sejong, Fletcher and Lepanto

[honest silo]

I see and thanks guys.

[minor merlin]

oh\

[wheat cobalt]

trash vs garbage choices

[honest silo]

Also, just for know guys.

[minor merlin]

at least sejong is good because jinan

[honest silo]

A. Nevsky is a Light Crusier?

[opaque latch]

Yes

[minor merlin]

amiral any good?

[light harbor]

Well, for some reason like an idiot decided to put myself in Riga jail for CBs

[opaque latch]

180mm, 25mm armors

[light harbor]

By the standards of the treaties? No

By the standards of this game? Yes

[wheat cobalt]

meh

imo kinda trash

[trail salmon]

Sejong is fun

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[honest breach]

tokens update

[light harbor]

Oh right, I should probably use the ones that I earned earlier today

[wheat cobalt]

Amiral gives up a lot for the guns

it is huge

it eats stupid dmg from every angle

it has shit planes

[light harbor]

tl;dr, Just play Marseille?

[wheat cobalt]

kinda

[light harbor]

Fair enough

[honest silo]

Nice.

For sure this will be my next Research Bureau ship I will get.

[boreal fable]

every single game

three in a row ending like this

Yeah WR is so skilled based

[junior osprey]

Honestly Idk how good that car is, Vermont I feel does kinda similar but maybe a bit better

[frozen vector]

asia at night is something

[boreal fable]

The thing with Ohio is you can run it hybrid because of it being american. Ohio is the only boat that does well running this hybrid role

[rustic hearth]

just wait for midnight like i do

[sudden cradle]

man what possessed me to research undine and not something like

cachalot

or u-69

or even s-1

[topaz coyote]

It's the Montana that can

[boreal fable]

What possesed you to do a sub line at all 💀

[sudden cradle]

i like subs

going underwater is cool

i like water

torpedoes to starboard

[light harbor]

After getting spoiled by better battleships, going back to Montana was... certainly something

[steel pier]

be advised, water is wet

[boreal fable]

Nah doesnt matter what time, if I play ragnar I ALWAYS get bot slop on my team

[steel pier]

[topaz coyote]

😭

[sudden cradle]

i also like bbs and cvs

i try to play cruisers but i get washed every single time

[light harbor]

The guns are still fine but you really feel the age of the hull

[topaz coyote]

I have to run Monty with rudder to feel like she is moving

[sudden cradle]

either devstriked from 5 miles away or i get collectively jumped

[untold thistle]

@lucid wagon errr, I got invited for an outdoor dinner again, which I didn't expect with the frankly awful weather earlier

[light harbor]

I got nuked by an Archerfish earlier today

[sudden cradle]

hannah montana

[topaz coyote]

RIP

Should've dodged tho

[sudden cradle]

whats so cool about hannah montana im researcing the american BV line

[light harbor]

Indeed

[topaz coyote]

Must me a skill issue ngl

[sudden cradle]

bv is

battlecarrier

hybrid battleship

[topaz coyote]

What

[light harbor]

It's not really representative

But like

Yeah

[topaz coyote]

Comparing Montana to a literal cheat boat

Tsk tsk

[sudden cradle]

werent subs like

super op

[light harbor]

I mean unironically, even the AP performance is similar

[sudden cradle]

then they got gutted

[light harbor]

Monty overmatch doesn't come up too often

[untold thistle]

I should get archerfish and hunt down a shinano

[honest silo]

Hey Gl4ss_Heart.

[topaz coyote]

No, they were conceptually broken

Hello

[light harbor]

They still are conceptually broken

[sudden cradle]

is foca better than midine

[topaz coyote]

Less so but yes

[honest silo]

So Ohio is not good?

[light harbor]

In the last 90 days

[topaz coyote]

Good armor, improved heal, heavy salvo weight, idk just decent at everything

[untold thistle]

Ohio is good

[light harbor]

She's fine, Vermont is just absurd

[sudden cradle]

so like ALL american ships

[untold thistle]

Just that compared to vermont

[topaz coyote]

No?

[untold thistle]

It's hard to not use vermont

[tight ruin]

I'd say Ohio is more competitive relevant - due to the survivability. Just play Monty or Vermont in Randoms

[honest silo]

I see and thanks mehfia and average_atlanta_enjoyer.

[light harbor]

What?

Vermont is like THE comp battleship if Colombo is banned

[untold thistle]

The vermont pick in KotS actually delivers hard hits

Ohio is an easier to rotate ship

[junior osprey]

It's not bad at all but if you play for main guns, Vermont is arguably just better.

It has better salvo weight, same dpm, better armor, same broken ass heal, better conceal. All you pay for it is lower top speed

[honest silo]

True.

[light harbor]

In comp, Vermont is generally preferred over Libertad even

[sudden cradle]

this image can be used to summarize playing japanese battleships imo

[honest silo]

I would use her for her secondary also.

[light harbor]

Even the speed gap isn't that bad considering the acceleration parameters

If you try to turn in Monty (who has a higher speed) you suddenly do like 25 knots anyway

I assume Ohio is worse

[topaz coyote]

You can go like 28 ish with brisk and speed flag

[light harbor]

26, if you're talking about Vermont

[honest silo]

So Ohio is slower?

[wheat cobalt]

Ohio is slower than Monty

[topaz coyote]

26 then

[honest silo]

I see.

[junior osprey]

Yeah this, Vermont is Hella good at dodging shit

[light harbor]

Ohio is faster in a straight line than Vermont but Vermont is a lot more maneuverable and maintains speed a lot better

[tight ruin]

Depends. But Ohio will take more punches.

[light harbor]

No?

[untold thistle]

Not really

[light harbor]

Ohio gets cooked super hard

[junior osprey]

What Vermont max top speed means is that you do not want to play it on the flank at all, but it is an absolute monster in pretty much all engagements

[wheat cobalt]

or you know

play the superior Bungo

ong

[light harbor]

Ohio is like... entry level battleship pick for comp

[honest silo]

I see and thanks guys.

[topaz coyote]

Cringo

[honest silo]

For Ohio is better the Secondary or main gun?

As build.

[topaz coyote]

Main

[light harbor]

Might as well spec a little for secondaries

[untold thistle]

Or in mid for faster rotation, open to crossfire sure but maps generally have enough cover to protect from one side

[topaz coyote]

You can skill a bit into secs if you feel funny

[light harbor]

You don't lose anything by taking the secondary module in slot 3

[topaz coyote]

Very mean to DDs

[honest silo]

I would do that for sure.

[light harbor]

Full secondary spec is very questionable outside PvE

And in PvE you'll get more value out of Schlieffen or Libertad

[honest silo]

Understood.

[topaz coyote]

Might as well play Montana if you spec it like Montana

[light harbor]

I mean Ohio is just Monty but better

It's why I consider her the most boring RB ship

She's very boring from a design perspective

[wheat cobalt]

play Slava

[junior osprey]

I think they kinda do different things, Ohio is a Vermont side grade while Monty has not the overmatch but has higher dpm

[tight ruin]

It will.

[untold thistle]

Good all rounder, wouldnt say unfun but she's lacking the "surprise" factor RB ships are supposed to have imo

[topaz coyote]

I mean, all the older BBs aren't exactly the pinnacle of hype either

[honest silo]

I see.

[light harbor]

In a lot of cases when I'm playing Monty these days I would rather be playing Vermont unironically

[wheat cobalt]

Sevastopol is a surprisingly bad ship

for example

[honest silo]

And thanks guys for the information regarding Ohio.

[topaz coyote]

Mont

[junior osprey]

Yeah I basically always try to play middle, Vermont is one of those cars I've been playing a decent bit at least, I think like 50 matches at least last month or 2

[sudden cradle]

i may have figured out undines playstyle

[light harbor]

I'm sure she's fun to play, I just don't like her from a design perspective

Same as Irres

[rare schooner]

Randoms

Gl4ss\_Heart's Vermont (EU)

Battles: 38
Wins: 52.63% (20/18/0)
Survival: 34.21% (13/25)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 278
Damage: 110 944
Kills: 0.87
Aircraft: 5.24
Spotted: 0.16
Scouting: 23 556
Potential: 1 779 039

Records

Base EXP: 2 298
Damage: 226 381
Kills: 4
Aircraft: 27
Spotted: 1
Scouting: 70 192
Potential: 3 141 686

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (31/4/38.15%)
Secondaries: (1/1/9.90%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (0/0/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[sudden cradle]

abuse your big ass dive capacity

stay out of airstrike range

spam torps

[topaz coyote]

Holy doodoo

[junior osprey]

I wouldn't get it as 1st RB ship because it's not so unique, but idk what other choices you're considering

[sudden cradle]

win

[honest silo]

The first research bureau I got was Illinois.

[light harbor]

I haven't played that much Brick

I should play her more

[tight ruin]

I'd rather play Monty or Vermont. But Ohio is better than either for survivability.
And don't build Monty or Vermont for sec, just don't.

[boreal fable]

now opposite, sick

[light harbor]

Ohio is better than either for survivability
Better than Monty? Sure I guess

[boreal fable]

WG pls fix this shi

[light harbor]

Definitely not better than Vermont

[topaz coyote]

I would argue in terms of survivalability it's worse than both

[light harbor]

Vermont having 50% cit healing and 50mm midsection makes her an absolute pain to kill

[sudden cradle]

what do you guys think of current cvs

should they bring back rts cvs

i think rts is more fun

[wheat cobalt]

trash

as in trash design

[boreal fable]

How is ohio less survivable than monty, 40s heal on ohio, normal heal on monty

[steel pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179482944700698785/1437133247237591082/caption.gif

[sudden cradle]

i naturally just love aircraft carriers so i cant hate them that much

[light harbor]

Monty gets more healing total

[topaz coyote]

*improved heal on Montana

[sudden cradle]

though they should delete shinano

[boreal fable]

Hot cringe rainbow garbage

[light harbor]

Over 5 heals it adds up to +1 heal roughly

[junior osprey]

You have colbert?

[boreal fable]

normal cd

[topaz coyote]

And

[sudden cradle]

hot rash

[topaz coyote]

You heal basically double

[wheat cobalt]

don't

[topaz coyote]

[light harbor]

It's a 35% heal increase after flags and skill buffs IIRC

[topaz coyote]

And with IRPR you can live a long time

[junior osprey]

Wai not

[light harbor]

Lemme check really quick

[wheat cobalt]

not a ship for him

trust me

[boreal fable]

18.5% heal to 14% is basically double huh

[topaz coyote]

Close enough

[boreal fable]

Interesting

[junior osprey]

Oh oki I don't know him

[topaz coyote]

You are forgetting flags and the skill

[honest silo]

No.

[topaz coyote]

It's not double obviously but it's still a significant margin

[honest silo]

I don't have her. I mean the Colbert. @junior osprey

[light harbor]

Monty heal on the left, Ohio heal on the right

[boreal fable]

it is double the reload on monty tho

[light harbor]

Oh wait I forgot flag on Ohio heal

[boreal fable]

So less than double the hp for double the cd

[topaz coyote]

Ah

[light harbor]

There we go

It's ~200 more HP per tick on Monty heal

[topaz coyote]

Roughly one third more

[boreal fable]

Ohio is tankier in burst and Monty is tankier over duration

[tight ruin]

Same way that Massa is better than NC for survivability. A fast cooldown heal is generally better.
You gotta disengage with the normal heal.

[honest silo]

I see.

[topaz coyote]

Yeah it's still more tanky

[light harbor]

For comp you kind of need burst tankiness

[boreal fable]

Why do you keep spamming this emoji? What are you trying to achieve with this?

[light harbor]

Which is the argument they were making earlier

[honest silo]

Colbert is a light cruiser right?

[boreal fable]

Ultra light yeah

[topaz coyote]

It's working

[light harbor]

That being said, Vermont has the same heal as Ohio with better armor

[thorny mauve]

No its a DD trust me

[topaz coyote]

And more HP

[honest silo]

I see and thanks,

I honestly still need to improve with cruiser.

[light harbor]

That too

[boreal fable]

yeah colbert is on the harder side of cruisers

[light harbor]

Vermont's only real weakness is that she's slow, but that's irrelevant in comp most of the time

[topaz coyote]

Definitely feels like one

Made of glass

[sudden cradle]

how destroyer players react when you chase them down with a machete

[topaz coyote]

I would just smoke up

[thorny mauve]

Anything: lightly taps Colbert
Colbert: 💥 💥

[sleek igloo]

me when I see a radar cruiser getting close

[honest silo]

I see, but yeah not really for me.

[light harbor]

One of my clanmates got 17 cits on a Colbert... as a Kleber

[sudden cradle]

me when im out of battery and im surfacing RIGHT near a bb

[light harbor]

[honest silo]

As I need to improve before.

[sleek igloo]

son

[severe plank]

Hawaii vs Colbert

Battle of mid

[sudden cradle]

dude

what is happening in asia

[topaz coyote]

Vampire II best RB ship pick 🙏

[minor merlin]

how do i position gronningen well?

[light harbor]

Colbert wins if they have hands

[thorny mauve]

I love Bremen AP

[severe plank]

Hell on earth

[light harbor]

Smoke up when you have spotting and targets to farm

Otherwise, don't do that

[topaz coyote]

Try to ambush or bait DDs into you with hydro and smoke

[sudden cradle]

have you guys been getting into carrier 1v1s

[severe plank]

Maybe thanos had a point, if we use the gauntlet to wipe out half of people who have over 100 battles in BBs the game would thrive

[minor merlin]

two battles in a row

[sudden cradle]

HOW MUCH FUCKING KEARSARGES

[minor merlin]

and halford

[untold thistle]

@tawdry turret assia also suffering the bb epidemic

[sudden cradle]

goddamn

by the way should i get ise

[severe plank]

It’s the coal coupon

[light harbor]

I would say no one gets baited into Groningen hydro but the average randoms destroyer player has no clue how to play into a hydro destroyer

[sudden cradle]

like is(e) it a good ship

[minor merlin]

there was probs alot of swearing that match

[topaz coyote]

No

[sudden cradle]

Ok

Understood

[minor merlin]

eh but its fun

[sudden cradle]

i do like ise

[minor merlin]

i want

[sudden cradle]

akis too expensive

[minor merlin]

planes suck but its still a japanese bb

[sudden cradle]

HMS Undine

[untold thistle]

Aki handles somewhat differently from ise

[light harbor]

Ise kiting angles

[untold thistle]

Ise plays similar to fuso, gun wise

[topaz coyote]

It really depends on the enemy IQ, it tends to work especially when you are in a dubious position or the enemy thinks you are a different ship

[light harbor]

I'm literally never playing her again

Ise is so awful

[severe plank]

They’re both Japanese BBs that have a flight deck of course they play the same

[untold thistle]

And aki is the regular ijn bb experience of sniping

[sudden cradle]

i like aviation battleships

[light harbor]

At that point I'd just play Loyang to cut down the spotting gap

[untold thistle]

But with planes

[sudden cradle]

too bad there are like

3 of them

[untold thistle]

I dont

[sudden cradle]

excluding variants

[topaz coyote]

But Loyang DPM 🥀

[severe plank]

Should I get Komissar

[untold thistle]

Id trade my aki for a premium version of yamato

[sudden cradle]

commanda we've been detected

[light harbor]

Loyang DPM isn't bad for a tier 8 destroyer

[tight ruin]

Ise is just a ship for professional sealgriefers, not even sealclubbers.

[zinc pecan]

anyone know a good strategy to get credits

[sudden cradle]

lowk i dont like hakuryu

[tawdry turret]

its just like that

[sudden cradle]

shokakus better

[light harbor]

Especially a tier 8 destroyer with such good vision control

[untold thistle]

T9 premiums

[sudden cradle]

the dispersion on hakuryu's ap bombers is genuinely abysmal

[light harbor]

The problem is the HP pool is utter garbage so if you get caught outside of the smoke+hydro you're fucked

[tawdry turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669133945375555584/1376574929335746590/kearsarge.gif

[digital locust]

Imagine state of ASIA when they release Chinese BB tree

[tawdry turret]

ur in ASSIA

[zinc pecan]

i dont have any money and dont have the recources for them

[severe plank]

I thought the premier sealmurdering ship is izyaslav

[tight ruin]

Buy/obtain yourself a strong/broken T9 premium ship and spam it.

[honest silo]

But yeah at the end I will save Research Points for Ohio.

[untold thistle]

Tough luck

[light harbor]

She is

[indigo mountain]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/812119842940387352/1354625843170640042/caption.gif

[topaz coyote]

You really don't expect a cit farming airstrike would be consistent

[light harbor]

Izyaslav is just broken

Giving her a heal was a terrible idea

[sudden cradle]

i mean shokaku has much better dispersion

[severe plank]

Playing izyaslav is a good thing because you hunt new players and stop them from being trolled by the game further

[tawdry turret]

she has a heal?

WHAT?

[light harbor]

Yes

[severe plank]

Yeah Soviet DDs got a heal now

[tawdry turret]

oh my god

[light harbor]

Derzki onward the line can swap the smoke for a heal

[sudden cradle]

we should remove ussr from the game

[light harbor]

It is so dumb

[lament birch]

oh yeah i forgot that went all the way down to club tiers...

[honest silo]

I'm just curious guys.

How is USS Hull?

[light harbor]

Derzki is insane but no gunpower

[topaz coyote]

Funny

[severe plank]

I used to not be a fan of Minsk but now that it has a heal

[lament birch]

10/10 balance department

[light harbor]

Izyaslav can outtrade tier 5 destroyers

[severe plank]

It’s like a really funny cockroach

[minor merlin]

if theres no island in the cap should i just avoid in gronningen?

[rich dagger]

Kiev is ridiculous with heals too

[minor merlin]

at the start that is

[light harbor]

Kiev always had the option though

[tawdry turret]

i mean kiev and anything above already has it

[light harbor]

And also Provorny and Kidd exist at tier 8

[tawdry turret]

but minsk and before that didn't

[light harbor]

Both are just better

[topaz coyote]

Delny line DPM 🥀

[pine magnet]

enjoy your TierX kiev

[honest silo]

I see.

[light harbor]

Provorny is better than Tashkent even

25mm plating gaming

[tawdry turret]

[topaz coyote]

Umazing

[pine magnet]

Tashitkent

[light harbor]

Trashcan

[digital locust]

Remember, there is no rushian bias

[severe plank]

There hasn’t been Russian bias for a long time now

[rustic hearth]

pan american bias

[light harbor]

If EmpressCheshire asks I said nothing about Tashkent being bad

[rustic hearth]

trust

[severe plank]

Truke

[rich dagger]

Soviet Cruisers and BBs are quite literally the opposite

[honest silo]

Is USS Black DD-666 a good pick to buy for Coal?

[light harbor]

Battleship bias

[untold thistle]

You can't fight DDs well gunwise, but you can harass them relatively safely with the superheal

[sudden cradle]

guys im fucked

im out of battery

and im next to 4 enemy shios

[light harbor]

Have you played Kremlin in the current era?

[sudden cradle]

ships

[honest silo]

I see and thanks mehfia.

[digital locust]

Chile is the only nation capable to stand against Klingon fleet

[topaz coyote]

I wish DDs were even half as coddled as BBs are these days 😔

[severe plank]

God I wish

[untold thistle]

Cruisers being dead in the water

[plush smelt]

hello

whats up

[sudden cradle]

would you guys consider aigle to be good

[light harbor]

Stares at Rhode Island

[severe plank]

What if uh

[untold thistle]

The sky

[severe plank]

Since BBs have a lot of HP and good armor

[rustic hearth]

battlecruisers🔥

[light harbor]

Oh god that piece of garbage

[severe plank]

Why don’t we limit BBs to a single heal?

[plush smelt]

today i blow up in colbert

[topaz coyote]

The only way cruiser are adapting is either kite at 18km (Bremen) or become basically BBs (Hawaii, Adalbert)

[sudden cradle]

subs shot dead in pizza hut back alley by wargaming

[warm umbra]

barbiano goes BRRRRRRRRR

[topaz coyote]

No play for normal heavy cruisers

[untold thistle]

Not really

[dim bridge]

yeah fucking right we wish

[light harbor]

Or to quite literally become a battleship (Rhode Island)

Or a destroyer (Svea, Ragnar)

[sudden cradle]

IJN Nagato

[untold thistle]

Mecklenburger 😔

[topaz coyote]

When I cheat and tell no one about it

[severe plank]

What if we gave all DDs heals

[dim bridge]

ragnar is just a very VERY V E R Y obeese destroyer

[sudden cradle]

what if we gave cvs aimbot

🤔

[severe plank]

Like not even as an alternative to smoke

[untold thistle]

Harugumo running it down

[ancient monolith]

10s immunity to dmg, 30s reload

[light harbor]

Hm

[warm umbra]

they stole my kraken is last sec🥲

[untold thistle]

Elbing

[dim bridge]

I'm talking not big boned just absolutely fucking fat

[sudden cradle]

what if we gave shinano 200 thousand hp

[severe plank]

hull

[light harbor]

Elbonk is... different

[sudden cradle]

🤔🤔🤔

[light harbor]

Hull is just dumb

[severe plank]

Gonna get hull soon

[eager pumice]

Personally yes, but with the caveat that it's a T6

Ans going from T10 to T6 for example is quite a shocker from the combat efficiency PoV

[light harbor]

"Let's put 2/3rds of a DM on a destroyer" they said

[untold thistle]

Sherman with three 203

[steel pier]

~~transform Shinano straight up into a Habakuk, are we ~~

[severe plank]

Farmer extraordinaire

[light harbor]

"It'll be fine" they said

[untold thistle]

I wouldnt call hull a cruiser

[dim bridge]

I am convinced Ragnar has a trombone player following it at all times with the iconic fat walking tune

[light harbor]

She is

Practically speaking

[junior osprey]

Is the legmod currently mandatory or what

[plush smelt]

oo the colbert range is 15km now

i wonder if that's good or bad

[sudden cradle]

what if we gave shinano as much planes as kaga

[light harbor]

I meant playing her into sub/CV/airstrike hell

Not sure if legmod helps

[sudden cradle]

https://tenor.com/view/hmmmmmmm-hmmmmmm-hmmmm-hm-hmm-gif-2339932555530048784

[untold thistle]

It isn't a joke anymore if anything

[light harbor]

I'm leery of losing dispersion but the extra DCP charge might be nice

[dim bridge]

Leg mod kremlin makes it better at what It already was good at doing which is tanking

so yeah Id say the leg mod is pretty good

[untold thistle]

Doesn't it also give an extra heal

[junior osprey]

It can do that decent, maybe not into subs but that's true for 99% of ships ingame

[digital locust]

Imagine dying in legmod kremlin

[dim bridge]

That would be amazing

[light harbor]

Questionable value with the standard pen queue

[topaz coyote]

All of the og russian menaces are shadows of their former self, Kremlin get farmed, Petro is not nearly as oppressive, Stalin suffers from fires, Smolensk gets oneshot pretty much

[sudden cradle]

what IF

[cold geyser]

hello

[light harbor]

Whether or not she has impact on the game, she just feels awful to play for me

[sudden cradle]

we gave shinano's ap bombers as much damage as yamato's guns

[light harbor]

Petro is still the top cruiser IMO

[sudden cradle]

devstriking as shinano

[lament birch]

not best wr but

[topaz coyote]

Not saying she isn't

[dim bridge]

Kremlin gets farmed like any bb? and it has the quick cooldown DCP so fires are no problem?

[topaz coyote]

Just not as insanely broken as she used to be

[light harbor]

Kremlin's whole deal (bow-tanking on a rock) is basically nullified completely if you're on a sub flank

[dim bridge]

Petro was bull shit and Stalin while it does suffer from fires it has adapted to the current long range meta really well

[foggy obsidian]

New patch new bug ??? or hidden feature ?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LB0A4AgDN4

[dim bridge]

fucking everything is nullified if you are on a sub flank

[topaz coyote]

Have you seen how many fires get shat out these days, you will be fine in a normal match but if there's subs and CVs and constant fires from dutchies

[light harbor]

IMO she suffers a lot more than the average battleship

[untold thistle]

That's a fix if anything

[severe plank]

I’d say BBs should suffer more in general

[light harbor]

Most battleships can turn around and still have impact

[sudden cradle]

PLAYING ISE IN RANKED (GONE WRONG)

[dim bridge]

and kremlin cant?

[topaz coyote]

Russian

[light harbor]

Why are you playing Kremlin to kite?

[topaz coyote]

Dispersion

[light harbor]

That would be my question

[wheat cobalt]

Kreml is still good

[severe plank]

Rangemod kremlin moment?

[dim bridge]

and if you know you are playing on a sub flank because subs usually are mirrored in matches why would you play it on an open flank

[topaz coyote]

So true

[junior osprey]

I mean fairly often the sub will either be a moron and/or you can play in kite close range as a tank and/or you can get into a central island where there isn't a sub and bow tank there

Imo it's still pretty strong, I haven't touched it since legmod changes tho

[wheat cobalt]

maybe I should buy steel car

[digital locust]

Its a bug. Skill worked exactly as described

[wheat cobalt]

after all

[light harbor]

Maybe I'll go back to her then but the last time I played her I had a nightmarish time

[dim bridge]

Kremlin if anything with the new leg mod changes is better than it was ever in the past

[light harbor]

Basically swore off playing her outside of divs

[junior osprey]

Well you don't wanna conceal build it, that's cucking yourself out of survivability you need in the big 26

[dim bridge]

of course the guns leave much to be desired past 13km

[topaz coyote]

Conceal is survivability

[dim bridge]

but its still the monster it used to be

I would not build kremlin for conceal

ew

[light harbor]

That it definitely it is not

She's not the most powerful battleship in the game by a wide margin

[junior osprey]

Not for Kremlin that relies on having like 110k hp kinda smol superstructure and 60mm armor

[dim bridge]

was she ever the strongest bb in the game?

[light harbor]

At one point, yes

[dim bridge]

How so

I did not know of this

[topaz coyote]

What will you even pick instead of concealment

[light harbor]

Back then there was nothing as tanky as Kremlin and nothing could really punish her

[untold thistle]

Mfw russian bias

[light harbor]

And 30mm overmatch was less common too IIRC

[dim bridge]

is there anything as tanky as kremlin now?

dont say sibir

I will laugh at you

[light harbor]

"The survivability is too strong so we nerfed the AA" meme came from somewhere after all

[topaz coyote]

Ushakov

[light harbor]

Libertad

[junior osprey]

Iirc I run FP, extra heal as 4pters. Vigilance, IRPR, some more survivability skills on 3pts

And instead of conceal mod, consumables mod to improve the heal

[dim bridge]

libertad is not as tanky as kremlin but I see the point

[light harbor]

Even Vermont

[dim bridge]

wow dont kid yourself

[plush smelt]

vermont isnt that tanky what

[light harbor]