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grr sub bad grr

is this your NA or EU
wtf and you’re not carrying me 🥺
yeah
what I mean is when I see Pioneer I see 2 potential alt options
Radar Mino (probably higher potential overall but also explosive) and Brisbane
I'm not sure where Pioneer sits in that lineup so my interest in it hasn't been immense
not even close
I thought you said you couldn't play WOWS /s

its just sidegrade brisbane
trading good torps for better ballistics
and losing range in the process
yeah im in bed rn
it gets mogged by cerberus in the smoke croozer gameplay
Time for some sleep
Already loving defense

I love always setting fire on idiot BBs
Always one or two fires per salvo it’s so goated
lmao i go to play nelson
tf happened to my nelson bro
why is this shit literal charred remains
Nelson after running into a Weser
fun
no fun allowed
What the anime
Also, what is the recommendation for the 25% off coupon for ships?
what do you have
Sandrone!
Time to blow my money out of the window to get her next patch 
get napoli
is dinh gonna whale in the BA collab
Ships that you would like to play
or moskva but moskva needs hands to play
can someone donate me commander xp
If i can time-travel to last year then maybe
theres gonna be a BA collab this year i think
Also that's a funny Nanning appearance you have there

I mean, I generally enjoy secondary ships
for 40k of my health
oh thats not nanning
holy shit i love nelson uptiers
nanning is the white haired one
Ah, right
planes of doom and despair 🙏 (gq got nuked)
I watched an independencia do things to an Essex today
willem is fun
i wonder why
Hi!
Wanted to ask what people think is the best Azur Lane ship in terms of uniqueness?
Afaik most of them change something slightly but I'm really only aware of a few of their kits, mostly being disapointed that Yukikaze seems rather mid which has dissuaded me from getting her the past few runs of this event.
Like is AL shima any much different from regular shima, or is there something good about her?
no
its just a skin difference
kowa
they're the exact same
can you even afford to play T10
Any thoughts on halford?
i can
Got it, so basically just prem Shima
yes
What about like Cheshire and some of the lower tier AL collab ships?
its just clones
same logic
rossiya shares the same stats with soyuz with american acc
Yukikaze might be good at ops? I'm just rather unconvinced at her in the modern state of the game (randoms)
play her torps different
yea
i have 500 doubloon should i yolo it for wishing warf?
no
fack this im yolo it
wishing wharf is a giant scam
prince of whales
lol
u fcking lucky ah
now just log in to see if ur prince of whales is there
then it mean you just not understand the power of yolo
not for wishing wharf
yep
Match fixing at its finest
understandable
bro check your discord notifications
my god
why did you let it get that bad
who is out here perfectly fine having 13k notifications 
i mean
its from general chat mostly if i got summon the sound get better thats when im check lol
i mean lets see a chat for azur lane
umamusume
granblue fantasy
kind of stuff
man
that DPLS clan
either sucks ass
or they fixed the match for the other people
because they literally did nothing
literally only their puerto rico and me got a kill are we fr
im find with it lol
its for
sorry for that
Louisiana buff in 2026?
Weekly reminder to remove subs
nah we both stopped late dec (for me ) and early January (him)
weird
Wows wants u to be a good boy and keep grinding
Guess
yeah they fucking do
somehow i am struggling on napoli @tawdry turret
avged 112k dmg which feels pretty mid
we can do some few games later when ur back
we'll fix it for you
Struggling with Napoli of all ships 🥀
weird right
all 3 games i played on it
i lost half of my health at the start
in various goofy ways
Did you get run down or what
we have diabolical mm
I got sub spotted and got hit with
a billion 457s
lmao
Have you tried not doing that?
yeah
I had diabolical mm earlier in EU too
T10 uptier in kansas
she got run down by 2 subs in the same flank at match start
the Essex kept hovering me and Kowatari too
I got a thousand doubloons myself recently but this tops it, I just pulled this on my second try somehow
yes
And 4 BBs and 2 cruisers were running me down in my flank
Let me guess, the only subs clan?
idek
yeah why
They always do that
not too familiar with NA community
it was 2 subs (coincidentally they were also abusing only the strongest ships)
Balao + Archerfish + Essex smh
yep
if Essex wasnt there I'll prolly chip their Monty and Kitakami to death much sooner
you can judge my methods but not my results
Had that in my rodney game as my teammates, they were horseshit
Double sub div
thing was I was about to do a good push
into the Kremlin who was fully broadside
And absolutely stole my kills
i just wanted to get into 11km for easy cit
i saw
they tend to do that because otherwise if they face me they tend to get carried out in a bucket
and even then
Idk they werent even playing well
last time i was in my tonijn vs them in a tonijn, archerfish and smaland
considering they somehow missed 2/3rds of their torpedoes at 6km
archerfish died straight off the bat to my spotting that allowed a friendly colombo to go: DELETE
That's just how the average sub player plays
what prem coal t9 should i get, i have kear and pommern
meh not gonna go for t10, i need credits
helfrich gron 🥰
i have a couple coal t10's
You already have kearsarge
Groningen is like a giga pr farmer with no impact
it sounds really cool that I have 2,700 PR on Groningen (ignore my winrate)
You'll get more credits out of tier 10 coal ships just because they're better and have a more forgiving matchmaking spread relatively
yeah no i suck ass at kearsarge, ik im just trash
Instructions unclear, got Friesland instead
Bruh
most i can do with it is 100k...
Azuma or kearsarge
im gonna go buy halford 
i would honestly rather play Azuma
who tf even pick Halford
I wouldn't
i would rather play a sub
like sure yeah Azuma gets turbonuked by any battleship
it wasnt even on the table
idk, its trash
only better than z44
is iwami any good? i dont want it but curious
Dont ever broadside on my french baguette ever again 
Iwami secondaries are a joke
you have decent-ish secondaries, meme shimakaze torpedoes and decent enough guns
i mean if you build into guns + a lil secondaries (hybrid)
Iwami can work pretty well

Iwami is pretty easy to cit as battleships go as well
Good thing that Sibir was being dumb
gotta love wargaming evolution
It was also a bad hull 4 years ago
It would be fine if the sec range wasnt gimped but it is so 
Having worse secondary range than tier 8s really was a choice
its honestly funny that iwami iirc has the best hitting secondary dpm in practice
if it wasnt for the fact theyre short ranged
wasnt the dispersion also bad
Rupprecht has higher I believe
i mean like
it has better DPm overall but you genuinely gotta be dumb as fuck
It's just I dont really see a reason to play Atago over Mogami at this moment
but
then again
to somehow end up in 10km of a Iwami
they might buff it so I'll keep it as my port princess
Looks at Mogami hull
Mogami hull isnt necessarily bad
Mogami hull isnt really all that bad.
she has 32mm iirc
No she doesn't
30mm
I was wondering about that, I think atago was dethroned as best ijn t8 cruiser now
and Mogami should have an DPM advantage over atago
Mogami is still 27mm midsection and a really easy devstrike
Mogami hull isn't all that bad for the tier
Yes, but Atago hull is among the best in the game at tier 8
that's literally almost every single cruiser at T8
Mogami has some 30mm plating on the upper casemate though
...okay? You're comparing that to the Atago hull which is really really good
Atago's hull is good
Mogami having heals doesn't change Atago hull being good
but Mogami's hull isnt particularly bad in comparison to other T8s
Mogami has a decent hull w/ a large DPM advantage though
Lion does not concern himself with cruiser armor
Idk the exact numbers for the DPM Difference but with good manueverability on Mogami and a hull you can actually work with, also having heals
that is hilariously massive
its like Mogami is a lot better
and if you slot IFHE on Mogami (which you should be doing) you pen 38mm
I'm not denying that Mogami is probably better overall, I'm saying there is still a reason to play Atago over Mogami
you're passing 2 important thresholds
Which is the ability to take hits in a way Mogami can't really risk
and Mogami shell velocity isnt noticeably worse than Atago's in all honesty
@radiant olive do we have any idea when sub surv times will be hot fixed? or does it look like they are gonna make us wait through this entire patch?
no clue, i figured something was up
I just want them to give Atago something like they did Eugen to give it more identity rather than it just being a slightly tankier varient of the T8.
What happened to sub surv?
can you elaborate on the issue please?
Atago with better torps or something lol
its start times are broken and not taken into effect any equipment or captain skill or signals you mnay have
it doesnt
Huh
i figured that was it
i was like 'why is my sub surv not ready yet 4 minutes into the game"
yeah that's what I was thinking
they curve too for better torp angles
it would give it an actual identity
and since people love flanking in the thing it'd lead to some funny moments
heh
I died because of it
i could abuse this so hard
by just punching straight through a flank without the worry of sub surv hitting me
sub surveillance on subs is broken?
and cause all sorts of trouble in the backline
yeah it is
Welp
funky little bug
guess I shall load my U4501 and torture people
4501 player
Funky little bug that made a sub live a bit longer than it should have
how awful
And lost me the game
I mean
I killed the sub
At the cost of myself
Because he launched torps when he was supposed to have died 1 minute before
just dodge
I did
trying to hit a U4501 with ASW is not necessarily easy if they know what they are doing
However I was under fire from a libertad
what is this pan american yamato tf
Yamato or satsuma
yamama
gottem
😔

how do u even fight submarines
That's literally just it
Submarines are very predictable, although its kind of shit to fight them without mods
If you're italian, japanese, or commonwealth cruisers then you most likely have sub survey
and when they ping from outside your ASW range, sucks
Guys how many steel fleet event has taken place since the beginning?
I can only backtrack to 2024 when Archerfish & Shinano first came out
Were there any steel fleet event prior to Chirstmas 2024?
A free premium submarine on bp? Nice
It's a Minnesota
Except with railguns and a superheal
It's not a premium
why is Laplus Darkness on the Minotaur
I thought gold name meant premium
It's the tier 6 italian tech tree sub in early access
It's early access
So she has premium benefits for the next two(?) patches and then she becomes tech-tree
😔
Should be 2 yeah
Okay good
'Neways,i'm off to bed now
Nini man, sleep well!
Ping me if you need me and i'll get back to you when i wake up
Have a good night's sleep
should i get azuma or gron? i like both playstyles
Azuma is probably an easier ship to grind credits with
sleep well
is it the best one or no
Groningen needs a couple specific criteria to be able to rack up damage which might not happen
Eh
yall wanna know something funny?
I'm of the opinion that you should just get a tier 10 coal ship and grind credits with that
subs are for players that cant please a woman

^
Napoli has done very well for me, and several others are really good
☕
i already have the t10 coal ships i want
Oh dear...
Weekend
I was thinking of getting napoli
You're expecting good weekend mm?
just between azuma and gron, im stuck bruh
my wr is genuinely tanking
She's probably the tankiest cruiser in the game
Gron is
and also i am still pissed off that C. Colombo has an underwater citadel
because I couldnt finish him off as Napoli
i had Lepanto as a surprise gift in my inventory after not playing for 2 years so i grinded into colombo and i love the SAP and even its AP
forget about having no torps, idc
Ur soo right, Subs are for degenerative losers bro
God, I can feel it...
Litterly sub humans. Might aswell burn them all
#DEATH TO SUB PLAYERS
only devstruck a Shikishima and took away 80% of the C.Colombos health (for literally no reason because in the end we lose)
phew thank god i use malta instead of u4501
I had a Moska yell at me in my Shima for not helping when I was doing everything I could to spot
Malta in asia
Just play Moskva yourself 
i got malta cause i liked how it looks 💀
I don't have her, unfortunately.
Not in world of shinano
yes but i dont think anything can really compare to the shinano so...
Essex
Looks at Essex
i remember replays of Malta getting like 400k in a game
yes but shinano is still just outright better
Not really no
Malta still is kind of the ultimate nightmare of any CL
cit ribbons my beloved
I've been trying to grind out Halsey and Yamato, but today it was just a wasteland 💀
Then again, I'm not the best player so that doesn't help... Grrr.
It's not as potent, but Malta can still devstrike CLs
rarely
Maybe I should swap out priority target for consumable enhancement
Back in the day she used to be so much worse
What are you running anyway
Nah gron > azuma literally any day
Uhh hold on
hm
Hood on
@tawdry turret dude i swear all my cruisers are cursed right now
Exploding
maybe gron cause every ship i have is long range farm
With a blue booster you get 1 mil creds in gron by capping and shooting a dd... literally thats all
2.8 million pot 142k avg damage in Napoli
kear, nelson, jean etc
Trying to actually get better at this game is a bitch sometimes... Especially when the teams are cooked
just aim for personal growth really
it'll translate over time
?????
enemy team has hawaii, gg no getting better
istg we're cursed
Play t7 with me for a pallet cleanse
u saw my 3 games in cc?
yea
Yeah, good point
gaming
angry when cv camps, angry when cv push
do u have NA account?

he does
I literally just got rodney on NA
no like wtf is he even doing there??
@untold thistle get the fuck in now
oh damn nice gambling
Yeha yeah
u should play Rodney and i play Nelson frr???
this the build I'm thinking of running for defence
I wonder how... I wonder why... Yesterday you told me about the blue, blue sky...
supporting the dd 💀
too close for comfort support
i have ike 1750 dubs rn
Consumable enhancements over PT is kind of a nothingburger for her
on u
im gonna play ranked to get the 300 left
i thought its 2k5
so i can actually change username. Full fledged alt account
for a name change
so pt it is then
You are no longer symboli rudolf with that pf
I'd drop HP perk and a 1-point skill to get Outnumbered personally
Having TGG and Outnumbered at the same time is big
Undying_Macula
I will say that I'm actually getting better with Bourg and Rhode Island, which I used to struggle with, so that's nice.
TUYU is just too peak
What is Defense base HP pool? 60k?
TUYU 🥀
yeah 60k
Yeah you can drop HP perk pretty comfortably then
too bad the fuckin dude went insane or sum bullshit
Yeah
Oh dear
Drop GTG and HP perk for Outnumbered would be my play
Kill yep
wth
It happened twice btw
alright then
Same circumstances too
Consumable enhancements or PT is up to your preference
Wtf
there was a really good grpoup called Tuyu
Dm
but i think the composer and whatever literally tried to kill this woman who was a minor
dont say it here
Mods are watching
execution
I-
Anyways
@untold thistle give me name
the fuck
Esoteric_order
Lmao
im currently saving my alts wr because for some reason it started at like 51% and now its upto 55.8% (until i decided to play randoms on weekend patch)
worst mistake is PLAYING THIS GAME DURING THE WEEKEND

So uhh
I just realized my account is apparently in the top 10,000 for "most popular" on the WoWs NA page...
💀
never stop winning
who are you...?
admiral lartigue is such an ugly name for a french ship
send me inv
the ghost has arrived
Nobody, or atleast I hope.
like you have stuff like republique and algerie and la galissoniere but then you decide to go with lartigue
tho apparently people are looking up my stats so uhhh... ohnyo
Did you know I'm one of the top 10,000 most famous (and richest) WoWs Discord accounts?
Cannot say I did.
did you know i am the number one player in hello kitty island adventure?
Yeah, I made meatballs tonight, pound of beef, pound of ground pork.. I threw in 30 cloves of garlic.
Cause I can afford it.
I'm rich.
sounds awesome tbh

Went crazy.
no need for sauce
eating balls
What do you mean by this?
I think I'm like 39%.
Ouch
this took a turn by the way. i was just trying to share my garlic-heavy recipe with the class
And you tried to make it into... well. you know.
Going to have to go ahead and ask you not to do that again.
delectible isn't a word, but yes they were very good.
I'm going to name my boat that in honor of you by the way.
THE DELECTIBLE
😩
*delectable
THE DELECTIBLE is a strong name for a strong ship. HMS Tea Time is not.
or the hms powerful despite being one of the most useless ships they ever made
My ship has loud speakers that continuously play X Gon Give It To Ya.
This reminds me that I picked Bourg over Incomp because my clan talked me into it and I'm still kinda mad about it
I assert my dominance fast and early.
Look... I'm warming up to Bourg, but Incomp is a play style that I really like
I used to despise Bourg, but that's because I was shit.
...And I still am, but I'm slowly getting better.
I might be the worst BB player in history tbh
💀
guh I need to get used to defence's ballistics
Real... I find myself struggling with ballistics as well
you picked bourg because youre a coward and incomp requires a spine. x gon give it to ya anyway
Damn, real
Woof woof!
Crazy
Yeah, you got a psycho up in this server now.
yes, me /j
not especially thrilled about it, and yet here I am
I'm collecting mental illnesses like they're pokemon
I'd rather not do that but here we are
nah youre not the psycho. you let your clan talk you into bourg. psyches dont get talked into things
you can't talk me into NUFFIN
that was goob gaem 
Good morning guys.
TRY TO TALK ME INTO SUMN
Hey _Kowatari.
ciao andrea
Hmmm...

short fuse on defence is kinda cracked ngl
Hey Snorti_Boi.
hello aaa2
Well, since you asked.
You should... Play a ship you hate.
whats the best way to get 50k spotting damage easily
Play a CV? Idk
i play every ship like i hate it. thats my secret. im always angry. always asserting
destroyers
Hmm, fair enough, fair enough.
Are there any ships you hate particularly?
quite literally destroyers, which were the main spotting ships anyway
you can literally afk
and get 50k spotting
the nelson game we just had i had 62k spotting
and im in Nelson 💀
I got 120k spotting with alasker
real
it's that hard
i hate the bourg because it's a diddy party
a CV is the best way to do it
i got 106k with marco polo while i was helping a person in here doing it
a little bit of everything div
honestly if someone really needs spotting
Well, you should play it then. Maybe if you play it enough, you'll grow to like it!
what we do in our clan is i play something like Colbert or Bayard
and they just afk in DD
if the div not full maybe i would help ppl with 50k
its super easy to get to 50k that way
but yea 
I've played like 5 days and don't know what the bourg is.
But I know it's Diddy's yacht.
I shan't be playing it.
some people are too bad for it
I suppose if you don't have it, that is going to make things difficult...
Okay then... What's the ship you own that you hate playing the most?
I sell ships I hate. But I am in a Bayern right now.
maybe this time I should save up coal for luigi sans
I pimp out the ships I don't want.
I heard legmod lighthouse venezia is cracked
Well... Buy them back. Maybe, just maybe, you'll actually start to like them.
After all, you need to get a feel for some ships before you can truly appreciate them.
Is there any codes for event pass points?
i fucking hatw bourg
Any particular reason?
Fair... I'm having trouble making them work myself. I've mainly resorted to HE spam, but I am attempting to learn the AP
Huh... I didn't know that.
But I won't lie, I also have Rhode Island that kinda does most of what Bourg does but better...
What does bourg do that even mecklenburg can't?
have speed
Rhode is fun, yes. She took me a bit to get used to, but now that I've got the hang of her, she's very nice
Good HE I spose
I quite enjoy her
the only
Hey xianyun.
Hey DoctorRyzen.
Utrecht or Gouden
utrecht
Rhode is a cruiser except NC hull /j
is the nerf that bad
I think it's more a South Dakota hull as preliminary design for the Iowa-Class.
come sail wit me
no shit
Hey SymboliRudolf.
we gave our BBs for free
Hello
I would, unfortunately I am about to sleep.
Uh.
not to mention the fact they had two of the worst CVs to fight
as well
Have a good night.
Woof!
where da hood at!?
I used to hate san martin and insta sold it after like 2 games, then bought it again and it's my favourite croooser
Nice.
Nice.
It honestly happened at me with North Carolina almost.
As I then started playing her bow in and I enjoyed her a lot.
yes Ryzen, I am somewhat of a degenerate... I am aware. I somewhat regret that fact, but it is a fact nonetheless.
Huh, neat
Yeah.
Rhode Island/Georgia share a hull that was a step between South Dakota and the Iowas
I- did not know that RI is on the same hull as Georgia...
Is Georgia as squishy as RI?
No
Oh, ok I see and nice.
Also hey Killerbin and good morning.
Good morning
Gotcha, thanks man.
I forgot to turn off my alarm, so here I am
It happen.
But yes, the 'true' design would be Georgia's hull with SoDak's turrets
I see and that's nice and interessing.
Hey DinhTuan.
Hey Andrea
only 2k more for the veteran recruit pack
I just name myself after song names in all honesty
Nice and hey mehfia.
hey andrea, nice to see you again
Same for me and thanks.
buena 
very surprised this is free
I enjoyed a lot yesterday the division with you and GunboatEnjoyer.
people don't use number substitutes often
me too, the first game didn't end well but the second game was great
Yeah I agree, if I still need to learn playing Illinois.

uhh how do you do the invite code again
on the redeem code tab
or if its in the create account then it should be on it too
use code Aegleseeker 
my EU 🥀
ah yes, the free t9 thing
@untold thistle can you dm referral
I honestly still didn't used the Riga I have.
she's fun
:D
but im struggling without CE
happy
why is your carousel so massive
my carousel is just 4 rows of infinite doom and scrolling
Nice.
I honestly still have in plan to grind Soviet Ships after I finished with the US Navy one.
me too tbh
so we wait for Umagirl a bit
er
Ooh... I should grind out FS tbh, I enjoy DD's so I imagine I'll enjoy her
im playing a kansas match
until she's done with some bits of tuto?
itll take a bit
an hour or two maybe
depends on how she's willing to speedrun it
what is the fastest way to do it
just over and over again?
it's fast
guys div co-op with me trust
i won my first game. i went mid, so i actually didn't get a huge chance to farm damage
im in a kansass game
but i smoked up an adalbert and martel
im trying to think of what line to grind
should this just be a sacrifical EU account or something i actually try to build
excuse me what the fuck
shhhh
did this game just automatically assign me
just play the game
a server region
I think you can try to build It.
I mean the EU Account.
what
i had to use a vpn to make sure i stayed on the right site when i was making an acct
every time
or else it would kick me off
yea u have to use the same email if u want to link all to steam
no steam isnt related
then it merges
or well it makes u merge
on the wg website
its very convenient tho
Guys. which one should I get? Please give your opinions. I am mostly hanging between Svea and Pioneer, but I like dds too.
asia is finally succumbing
z-42
dude what
succumbing to what?
so why did it make me automatically NA
asia is always like this.
I gotta get google translate up just to finnesse the team bro
does it just detect my location and go "i guess lmao"
Is the bounty status automatically active or do I have to activate it before a battle?
z-42 if you're cool
No cover?
Groningen worth it?
no
Once you activate, it remains active for one day. Then you will be able to activate it again after it becomes available.
I'm not sure where to activate it 😅
holy shit i just had that time freeze bug
Go to armoury, then featured, then Hunt for Bismack event, then bounty hunt.
he just suicided and we lost
what in the asia
kill myself meta
Did that guy just have a self-realization moment-?

i died
fresh out of coal 🥀
Do you have any mod installed?
no

all my shells/screen froze but ships/chats/notifs and anything ongoing still going
I got that bug once this morning but that's because of the "Consumable monitor" mod that i installed
And i got it right when i was doing a full turnout right in front of a Vermont 🥀
A Vermont of all things

is that lisboa
yup
been there
getting back to the libertad line on my main
no pan american commander so i figured i'd just finish lisboa
ONE short
i only got lisboa for sm
not for libertad
not for any bb
just sm or the cruisers
honestly im not much of a cruiser player
i struggled a lot with the cruiser line
tbf the AP only is my only real issue with it
Does it means its activated? I dont see the bounty logo next to my name during matches
Which means you have already used up 5 games
I haven't even played 5 games since this event is up 😅
I just played 1 game this morning after gettign this bounty status this morning
kind of odd
Were u playing randoms?
Yes
What tierr
Tier 8
Is the cruiser from IMPACTFORCE good?
Ah i see the issue
Its for battleship cryuisers and destroyers
I play submarine
its fun
my bad
Might as well sell it then since I am not the best player and I am low on silver
It's not a rare ship right?
low on silver -> sells ship that can make silver
this AP isn't too bad actually

thin superlight showing flat broadside when short fuse ap:
Tier 7 is not good to make silver anyway
errr
are we deadass
hmmm
if you have anything above
its better then nothing
but not rcm
He's talking about Defence
Tovarish Tuan.
i accidentally queued co-op in hashidate
and now i wanna kill myself
oml bro this shit so slow
I have a tier IX and X ship its fine
rcm?
recommended
go on
then u can get out and play again quick
ram and cycle
san martin is peak croooser
gaah
Elbing and San amrty are the best light croooosers
Was wooster ever good? cmon bro
spin the wheel of TTs
yes lmao tf
How , I can't even get 2 kills
Jinan
Nah dm has always been better
Jinan is kinda fucking cracked
great choice
gold vs diamond ahh statement
I dont think i can be arsed with respecing all the bloody cruisers in the game.
jinan is the most braindead tt crooser
Great awesomeness
Gold durability wise, sure
bb raper 9000
Jinan is just so stupid
I've run into like 6 jinans in the past week and all were running range
Jinan before her buffs was whatever honestly
Don't be one of those people
but after they just giga buffed her HE
its like wtf
and honestly Jinan doesnt take THAT much skill to play as far as CLs go
Jinna before buff is pretty much painful
because you have smoke
But yea she got buffed TWICE
and you also have 40 gajillion torpedoes to defend yourself
jinan + radar div is just perma cap control
You have a yueyang... on each side of your boat
well actually now that i think about it
Venezia or Jinan @tawdry turret @untold thistle
what would be better
for our divs
Jinan
ven light house l;eg mod is aaaaaaaah
it's why I prebuilt my luigi to lighthouse
new acc no LM

AAAAAA