game-discussion

[gusty merlin]

I just finished an operations match with Scharnhorst '43.. And I got 10 kills

[untold thistle]

Elite ball reference

[deep swan]

I’ve used this in an actual battle 3 times. First two times were carriers just sitting in spawn, 3rd was a clueless BB who forgot he had a rudder

[teal crag]

i dont remember was the guy going to get a F14 or F16?

[deep swan]

Harrier

[torn goblet]

ok but if I die before it arrives i want a full refund sent to my ghost.

[shadow rose]

exactly

[torn goblet]

i'm recycling cans for the down payment. i've got about $3.50 so far and a lot of tetanus.

[torn goblet]

I've been crushing them on my forehead to save time.

[rapid canyon]

Is there some trick to downloading the game? When I start the download it jumps up to 2-3Mbps and then almost immediately starts dropping back down until its like 1-2Kb/s.

[torn goblet]

Instead of referral codes, I am going to ask you to send me your soda cans when you're done with them.

Gotta recycle.

[torn goblet]

Steam?

[rapid canyon]

Nope- using the WG Center

[livid bridge]

I'm not giving away my cans, they are 0,50 a pop to turn in

[torn goblet]

Steam works really well.

[jolly shard]

wat da hell is going on

[shadow rose]

we had a hard time getting it dl'ed at my buddies house (yea i did that too him) and we had to just leave it for awhile and it got dl'ed

[torn goblet]

50 cents? I'd kill for those margins.

i'll trade you my entire fishtank for one can. its worth negative money but has sentimental value to me and...

I was hoping that might mean something.

[untold thistle]

My honest fix was just using steam

[tawdry turret]

just let it dl

most likely to be the internet

[plain stream]

LOL the CV from enemy team at the end of the battle started throwing insults at their fuso

[torn goblet]

Yeah, 1-2kbs, it'll get there.

Just gotta be patient.

[plain stream]

holy

[untold thistle]

I remember when my friend had slow download speeds, all I had to do was like backup wows on a portable hard disk and lend it to him

[torn goblet]

Talk about entitlement.

[plain stream]

all with blue booster

[inland field]

Dear WG:

When I entered the game, there was a survey waiting for me. Ok.
1 of the questions on the survey was: How do you like the Italian Sub event.
Do you mean the event that starts in 6 days?
.....
Yeah, well.... Let me get my crystal orb to check the future...

https://tenor.com/view/malreynolds-firefly-speechless-gif-5332816

[sleek igloo]

https://giphy.com/gifs/sahur-tung-1doCHphvQUgvijb2jX

[plain stream]

oops

[torn goblet]

I'm having meatball subs tonight to celebrate.

My family is allergic to marinara but I can't be bothered.

They get what they get.

[coral owl]

.

[vital delta]

Idk why they switched the italian subs to sap last second without really testing. They should be shooting meatballs

[digital locust]

What do you mean without testing? That's what NA is for

[vital delta]

Lol

True

[light harbor]

It's not the first time they made a last-minute balance patch and then didn't let testers go at it

[upper wyvern]

every tester I see just immediately runs it down anyway

[honest silo]

The italian submarine?

[shadow rose]

someone lemme get a 155 mogami build, the doc aint it

[grizzled relic]

na the lab rats

[hidden imp]

Bowling alley screens when you get a strike:

[edgy marten]

Hype, duh

[light harbor]

Something like this?

If you don't want IFHE, run outnumbered

[shadow rose]

thx m8

[meager bridge]

Which one are strong in bronze ranked rn: Split, mainz, balti, massa, or amagi

[light harbor]

Probably all of those

Maybe not Amagi as much

[meager bridge]

I heard amagi is better than massa though?

[light harbor]

That's a new one

[meager bridge]

Here

@light harbor

[untold thistle]

Even as an amagi shill, I wouldn't say that

[meager bridge]

This message

[untold thistle]

She's good

[boreal fable]

oh my guh my hot take got mentioned

[untold thistle]

But saying she's better than massa is wrong

[livid bridge]

I mean if you want better guns then you pick amagi that's about it

[boreal fable]

Yeah ill die on this hill, amagi is better at ranked than massa

[meager bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/monkey-thinking-monkey-thinking-think-money-gif-9734025314392564509

[untold thistle]

Your reasons?

[light harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669133945375555584/1441332955111755796/c37.gif

[brittle cliff]

hi angle i got a gf now xd

[meager bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-thinking-gif-18107621495886085895

[untold thistle]

Again?

[meager bridge]

ggs

[brittle cliff]

no we been dating like for over a month

[tawdry turret]

[untold thistle]

Good for you

[river dune]

[tawdry turret]

you've been here less than a month

[boreal fable]

Ill give proof after this game one sec

[river dune]

did it not use to show a flag here

[brittle cliff]

hi kowa

[tawdry turret]

but g4y

[brittle cliff]

yea but i been dating her for over a month

[meager bridge]

mfw hes playin sibir with david's zuckerlarf and my gronigen and we do 0 while he gets 200k kraken

[edgy marten]

Yes

[edgy marten]

Did you buy it this patch?

[light harbor]

The grand return of icecreams_

[untold thistle]

I swear, ship-guessing loves boise way too much

[meager bridge]

yes, I think they either removed it or system is bugged. Cause my port is also missing that

[untold thistle]

I see boise a lot and 0 helenas

[brittle cliff]

lesbian ice creams

[untold talon]

I have a question. How bad was the roll out of the pan American BBs

[meager bridge]

not as bad as valpa

[untold thistle]

Tragic for everyone not using them

[trail salmon]

Omg icecreams is back

[meager bridge]

back then I wasnt playing pvp

[untold thistle]

Like dude

PanAm BBs were even more busted

[brittle cliff]

yeah waiting for my gfs voice message

lol

[untold thistle]

Literally 0 practical reasons to run german BCs anymore

[boreal fable]

Okay so your guns are like 100% better than massa guns + better armour bcs japan turtleback for 8k less secondary dpm bruh get real

[upper wyvern]

that's not why massa is good at all

[boreal fable]

Again with the sus BXP brooo

[untold thistle]

Heals and horrible turret traverse, also 32mm he can pen everywhere

[plain stream]

VI tiers vs VIII tiers + its 12 players

[untold thistle]

Also IJN dcp

[light harbor]

Also good luck hitting Massa cit at all

[untold thistle]

You get fucked

[light harbor]

Amagi cit is pretty easy to punch at range

[untold thistle]

By fires even more in IJN ships

[upper wyvern]

it's pretty exposed

[light harbor]

No

[boreal fable]

um

[upper wyvern]

and anything with 32 overmatch can click you from any angle

[light harbor]

Massa has the underwater cit

[boreal fable]

Literally 100% 32

[light harbor]

Ranked

[light harbor]

Check the deck

[boreal fable]

The p r o b l e m with massa's "submarine" cit is...

[untold thistle]

You forget IJN BBs are particularly gimped by dcp

[boreal fable]

It gets overmatched by every single bb

[livid bridge]

you don't actually, there is another deck above that on all USN BBs

not shown in game

btw

[boreal fable]

I've cit much more massas than I have amagis

[light harbor]

The return of PR bomb deck

[boreal fable]

Just from experience

[honest silo]

Massachusetts?

[untold talon]

Selective memory with no data dum dum bum

[boreal fable]

vs amagi's also submarine citadel, except it's angled and cant be overmatched

btw

[livid bridge]

that's waterline not below waterline btw

[boreal fable]

amagi is 0% chance of getitng citd, massa is like 30%

[livid bridge]

amagi has 0% chance of getting cit cuz due to 10s dcp and 32mm deck it dies before it can get cit

😌

[light harbor]

Amagi is pretty easy to cit at range or in drive-bys

[boreal fable]

Same level

[livid bridge]

yes, that's rather significantly lower

[boreal fable]

Ah yes 2 pixels (significantly)

[meager bridge]

Just angle 🤓

[brittle cliff]

yamato right?

[untold talon]

Also there is something to be said for the USN gun layout over the Amagis

Namely bow at enemy has way more firepower and durability

[light harbor]

If you really really want a main gun battleship just take Vlad

[magic arrow]

I'd say so, yes. It's a more friendly ship to play

[boreal fable]

Those have equally dogshit turret angles

[boreal fable]

Valid take

[untold talon]

Negative 6 guns versus 4.

[trail salmon]

cool

[upper wyvern]

Lenin is significantly better

[trail salmon]

bungo

[light harbor]

Massa exists for american DCP + fast heals + secondaries to just be a pain

[boreal fable]

Amagi also has bigger salvo with better disp and same reload

Let it be said

[light harbor]

By all means, tell me how to buy Lenin now

[upper wyvern]

the same way you buy massa now?

[light harbor]

He has Massa already

[river dune]

that enemy cv is a shinano

and im playing nakhimov

this sure was a game lmao

[wheat cobalt]

1 more week for port queen

weee

[untold thistle]

Zh-1 🥀

[little abyss]

ive skipped this dockyard entirely

[light harbor]

Same

[untold thistle]

I honestly just do it for the rewards, not even the ship

[vital delta]

Bungo is definitely better at nuking cruisers because of the accuracy but yamato is probably more forgiving to play

[little abyss]

yeah

[light harbor]

She's super super super new

[little abyss]

im just tryna hit the second 500 steel reward

thats it

[untold talon]

Yes but to get that you need to expose the sides of the hull.

And the AP rounds don't hit as hard either. On the otherhand you don't seem to value the "I can just go forward at the enemy" approach that the Massa can bring.

[untold thistle]

I can't buy the tier-ups anyway

[vital delta]

Then I would do yamato

Cant really go wrong with yamato

[boreal fable]

The ap rounds dont hit as hard? Amagi has more salvo damage

[brittle cliff]

are there new wows codes

[boreal fable]

Objectively untrue

[upper wyvern]

sniping in ranked doesn't work in eu, maybe it does on asia

[light harbor]

Massa has american superheavy AP so the AP shells individually hit harder

[boreal fable]

Amagi is more survivable against ap (better armour, harder to hit cit), massa is more survivable against HE (better dcp and heal)

Basically

[strange roost]

just stop playing kearsarge, PLEASE

[light harbor]

I'm getting rid of mine in two weeks

Can't wait for that

[untold thistle]

Massa is more survivable in general

[untold talon]

[vital delta]

Is amagi really that hard to cit?

[lucid wagon]

No

[livid bridge]

(no)

[upper wyvern]

a massa that runs at an amagi get's a free kill 100% of the time

[light harbor]

At medium-ish ranges I guess?

[untold talon]

Yeah, i'm done. Bro is in here saying 12,6 is 13,1.

Because you have an extra barrel that you have to be exposed to get that swing in.

Brilliant.

[light harbor]

The turtleback kind of works

[boreal fable]

So we're saying amagi is worse because the individual shells do 500 less damage? We're measuring individual shells instead of salvo damage now huh? odd

[lucid wagon]

Amagi like all Japanese shit is really easy to citadel

[lucid wagon]

It has a turtle back?

[boreal fable]

Um... really?

[livid bridge]

it really doesnt

[grim portal]

What are y'all even arguing about bruh

[light harbor]

Not a good one

[livid bridge]

the angle is way too steep

[untold thistle]

Yep

[lucid wagon]

I did not know that considering Japanese ships are in general easy to citadel

The more you know

[untold thistle]

Kii has turtleback too

[boreal fable]

Only thing that cit's amagi is improved ap with high pen or long distance plunge, which both dont exist in ranked at tier 8

[untold thistle]

But eats more cits than amagi from experience

[untold talon]

The only thing I've seen you talk up is out your ass about the A-B having bad turret angles on the massa.

[vital delta]

Massa gets american DCP and 40 second heal CD. I mean if you go flat like a chimp then ig but like if you angle I doubt amagi gonna keep up pace

[livid bridge]

the "turtleback" usually reffers to the angled plate being within bounce angles for incomming shells

[untold talon]

🤷‍♂️

[livid bridge]

Amagi is at like 20 degrees

at best

[honest silo]

Tbh guys.

[boreal fable]

The amagi also has significantly better dispersion

higher sigma and access to slot 3 mod

[honest silo]

I like quite a lot USS Massachusetts BB-59 in game.

[untold talon]

Massa casts bow-in

Your AP has no power here.

[lucid wagon]

Ok so it’s guns are better but Amagi otherwise has no chance at winning against Massachusetts

Like I don’t get your argument

[boreal fable]

And amagi secondaries are lowkey higher damage just because of the way higher fire starting on them

Lowkey

[light harbor]

Uh

No

[lucid wagon]

Amagi can ‘try’ and HE farm but the Massachusetts at maximum will take 40 seconds of fire with good DCP control

[vital delta]

Amagi wins if the massa player just objectively plays the ship wrong 🙄

[untold talon]

So you want to expose your sides to get those secondaries in against a 16" armed ship? That's a choice.

[lucid wagon]

C. Colombo isn’t op if you never use SAP Fr Fr

[untold thistle]

Try running amagi secondary build, as funny as it is, it isn't good

[untold talon]

It's like dude doesn't do BB gameplay or something.

[boreal fable]

12 fires a minute vs 7.5 makes up for the 8k difference in hitting dpm

[untold thistle]

He doesn't

He hates using BBs

[lucid wagon]

What is he talking about?

Wha?

[untold talon]

Figures.

[boreal fable]

okay 8k less raw dpm but 5 more fires

[light harbor]

Half of Amagi's secondaries don't even have the good dispersion formula

[untold thistle]

I just remembered that fact

[lucid wagon]

Yeah I think that requires some genuine prayers for you to get close to 12 lmao

[untold thistle]

That ryzen here doesn't like BBs

[upper wyvern]

if you're at brawling range in an amagi you've already lost

[boreal fable]

No why would I play this turbo ass class, I'm just havign this arguement for the fun of the game

[lucid wagon]

• doesn’t know what he’s talking about

[untold talon]

Half of the battery on the Amagi require you to unangle your ship to use as well. And like all Japanese battleships, very prone to Citadel hits at all ranges when you aren't properly angled.

[lucid wagon]

• why would I play a BB?

Are we fr

[boreal fable]

Prayers? That's the mathemematically recorded average

No praying involved?

[untold thistle]

It works better than other IJN TT BBs, not that I recommend rushing in regardless

[little abyss]

why are we comparing massa and amagi anyways

[livid bridge]

"Only 8k hitting dpm difference!!!!"

Guess which one is which

[little abyss]

two very different roles

[untold thistle]

Ranked

[honest silo]

One question guys.

[little abyss]

massa is better hands down

[lucid wagon]

Oml this is a ranked argument??

[untold thistle]

Yep

[untold talon]

Then maybe learn how to play the ship and realize that theorical numbers are not practical.

Like I stated before, damn near -every- USN BB player is just going to bow-in the Massa and then Amagi+you don't have a counter to it.

[boreal fable]

amagi is turbo ass smh

[upper wyvern]

not true as some have torps

[lucid wagon]

So why is it as soon as you get called out on being blatantly wrong you back up all your statements

[vital delta]

Also massa secondaries have improved accuracy too. Only the 140s on amagi get the improved accuracy

[little abyss]

amagi is similar level of efficiency as massa in randoms but ranked is super heavily brawler focused

[boreal fable]

who the hell builds amagi for secondaries

[lucid wagon]

How’d you go from “Amagi has better secondaries and guns and armor” too “Amagi is ass”

[little abyss]

amagi is better than bismarck but id probably rather have a bismarck in ranked for example

[lucid wagon]

Lmao

[honest silo]

IJN Ise is one of only Imperial Japanese Navy Battleship with the lower caliber? As if I Remember she have 356mm main gun?

[untold talon]

Ise, Fuso, and Kongos.

[untold thistle]

He's losing so

Like

[boreal fable]

If you take just the 4 point secondary skill and rest in MB focused u can still get value out of secs with 100% better guns than massa

[untold talon]

the classes anyway.

[boreal fable]

Fact check

[vital delta]

Yikes

[livid bridge]

I mean that's more than Massa builds into secondaries?

[boreal fable]

Nah no losing involved, just because iot's a 1v10 doesnt mean loss is involkved

[livid bridge]

the usual Massa build is just secondary range

[vital delta]

Ship tooled brain moment

[honest silo]

I see and thanks.

[livid bridge]

always has been

[untold thistle]

No, you are def losing

[honest silo]

True.

[boreal fable]

What...

[lucid wagon]

It literally is

[untold thistle]

Since the basis of your arguements is on ranked

[honest silo]

If I'm not wrong Alabama goes for the Main Gun build?

[livid bridge]

literally the whole reason why USN premium secondaries were considered good since release was that you don't need to build into them for them to be good, and the rest of the ship is good too as a standard BB

[honest silo]

Instead of Massa.

[boreal fable]

Every single massa I've encountered on my ranked gameplay has had the 4 pointer

Dunno how real that statement is

[vital delta]

Alabama is like NC but worse so yes main gun build

[lucid wagon]

Guys did you know the absolutely insane Kansas is better then Turgut Reis in ranked because Kansas has a higher AP alpha in salvo

[untold thistle]

Youre in asia dumbass

[vital delta]

No way

[boreal fable]

Nah alabama is betetr objectively

[vital delta]

What?!

[livid bridge]

every Richieleu I encountered had secondary build this month

[honest silo]

I honestly used her a good amout and I enjoyer her a lot.

[livid bridge]

who cares what random dudes build

[honest silo]

Yeah I found her Better then NC.

[boreal fable]

Assym dont count get real

[livid bridge]

90% of BBs run full secondary or bingo

we are talking optimized builds not what random 40%-ers run

[boreal fable]

Why is there a brawl version of amagi just for it to have worse sec dpm

[livid bridge]

is there a brawl version of amagi?

I wasn't aware

[boreal fable]

yeah kii

[lucid wagon]

Uhm

[untold talon]

So you lost the nonsense argument about Secondaries due to a single word. Angles.

In order to get your 'better secondaries' you need have your citadel wide open to getting smashed like a coughing baby against a H-Bomb.
The Massa can just off-center angle and get all of her guns in on the party.

They are not the same, learn the class, then talk.

[livid bridge]

Kii was released as AA version of Amagi

not brawl

[boreal fable]

It's supposed to be a brawl version at least, it's just worse

It's just worse in every way

[untold talon]

Anytime you go more than 15-25 degrees off bow and you aren't a German BB, you are asking for trouble.

[lucid wagon]

All this arguing just for Lenin to solo

[boreal fable]

Amagi takes no cit dmg

[untold talon]

Objectively horseshit

[lucid wagon]

What are we talking about bro

😭😭😭

[boreal fable]

Team with more lenins always wins... 😭

[boreal fable]

No pretty sure there's no horses involved

[grim portal]

Wait is this guy arguing that Amagi is better than Massa for brawling?

[light harbor]

For ranked

[untold talon]

he is also trying to say that the Amagi can't be citadeled

because all turtlebacks are the same just trust me bro.

[grim portal]

And you're taking him seriously?

[untold talon]

No

[grim portal]

https://tenor.com/view/ishowspeed-reverse-smile-ishowspeed-confused-gif-17362243368421867313

[livid bridge]

I don't think we are

[boreal fable]

nah im sure massa is better for that

[livid bridge]

at least I am not

(this has happend numerous times before with various topics)

[dapper thunder]

Guys check me on this... my forum post about wishing warf being absolutely unfair and horrible usedf to have 8 reactions. now it doesn't even appear on the forum topics list (despite recent comments) and the reactions are gone?

[boreal fable]

Honestly I haven't played with either of those 2 boats in a few months now

[untold thistle]

The moment I remembered this guy doesn't like BBs, I just lost interest

[untold talon]

It was obvious he was talking out his ass a while ago the amount of nonsense oversights about how BBs actually play is pretty hard to miss.

[light harbor]

That's yours, no?

[livid bridge]

I stole your reactions for my post

[boreal fable]

Nah

[dapper thunder]

Hmmmm

[boreal fable]

It's real

[lucid wagon]

I mean I agree

[dapper thunder]

Ok thanks. On my end it shows now reactions

Appreciate it

[untold thistle]

I still remember you not liking BBs

[lucid wagon]

The wishing wharf is really bad

I feel they’re among the worst chance wise anyway

[untold talon]

at least it's freeish.

[boreal fable]

I did say that

[lucid wagon]

Wishing wharf is not free

[boreal fable]

Why play bb if u can play croooser

[light harbor]

Gamba bad

[lucid wagon]

You get 2 rolls

[light harbor]

Don't gamba

It's that simple

[lucid wagon]

Just gamble Santa containers

[upper wyvern]

and how many is a ship? 100?

[lucid wagon]

They’re the best!!!

[light harbor]

Even that isn't worth it unless you have a billion premium ships

[lucid wagon]

On avg prob 80-100 rolls considering it’s like a 1 in 200 chance

[grim portal]

I can't decide what to play for t9 ranked

[void relic]

I GOT YOU COVERED

you trust me?

[grim portal]

Probably alaska

[untold talon]

Jager

[light harbor]

Kitakaze

[lucid wagon]

Ehh I don’t necessarily agree with that

[livid bridge]

I sometimes look at my notes tbh

[void relic]

you GOTTA trust me, right?

[honest silo]

Hey EmpressCheshire.

[untold talon]

Be the problem

[light harbor]

Yes

[livid bridge]

[lucid wagon]

You can’t really get the “billion premium ships” if you don’t start in the first place

[grim portal]

Don't have it need to regrind the line

[void relic]

you GOTTA play tashkent

[lucid wagon]

You can really only get to the good stuff in Christmas crates by well, gambling and then doing more gambling

[light harbor]

STAR Kitakaze then

[grim portal]

TRVKE

[untold talon]

Tulsa

[honest silo]

How is Indiana guys?

[void relic]

good

[lucid wagon]

It’s meh

[dapper thunder]

Yes it is bad odds, and if you have a lot of premiums already, it goes from bad to terrible odds. Your odds of getting a ship are better if you dont have any in the drop list.

[light harbor]

I am very smart

[lucid wagon]

Indiana is meh

[honest silo]

Hey TheSpreadsheet.

[void relic]

indy slaps

[untold talon]

One of the worst mid-west states honestly.

[honest silo]

Why? Just for know.

[honest silo]

I see.

[lucid wagon]

Like omg I get super mega maneuverability (still just an Alabama with a sunken citadel)

[grim portal]

Hey andrea

[light harbor]

Slot 6 though

[boreal fable]

oh my gawrd im in amagi rn, broadside to vladi at 8km and bro hit me for a staggering 5k, im crippled

[light harbor]

And hydro for some reason

[dapper thunder]

I actually like "gambling" and like these WG events. This one was super painful for me.

[lucid wagon]

Only changes to Indiana is the maneuverability (really good), slot 6, and a hydro that is just useless

[upper wyvern]

one guy can't aim therefore amagi good

[light harbor]

Hydro is never useless

[boreal fable]

He aimed fine

[honest silo]

I see and thanks.

[light harbor]

Unironically

[void relic]

indy also has a pretty comfy reload

[lucid wagon]

Like Indiana maneuverability is insane to the point it’s mega easy to dodge literally everything

[void relic]

27s reload

[upper wyvern]

obviously not?

[honest silo]

Oh, nice.

[void relic]

with murican dispersion mod

[light harbor]

It lets you shove flanks a lot more comfortably if you have to

[lucid wagon]

Honestly even when I don’t have hydro up the Indiana maneuvering is so ridiculous I’m able to dodge anyways

Unless it’s deep water

[void relic]

you can maneuver to use your booty gun and angle back to safety

[honest silo]

I see and that's interessing.

[void relic]

its shrimple

[dapper thunder]

honestly if it had just dropped bismarck '41 for me i wouldve said fine at least i got a unique ship can play

[honest silo]

Oh.

[lucid wagon]

What’d you get

[light harbor]

Better gun angles than Iowa anyway

[dapper thunder]

For $250 I got one ship. Prince of Whales.

[honest silo]

I only have currently Alabama of the South Dakota-Class.

[upper wyvern]

you could have got both for less

[livid bridge]

I gambled 1k dubs and got worse TT Bismark

unluck

[lucid wagon]

Jesus 250??? I’m gonna assume USD but that’s insane. You could’ve bought them both for less

That’s kind of crazy

[dapper thunder]

Yes. I'm stujpid.

I realize I am stupid. I'm so stupid that I had to detach my paypal from WG.

[void relic]

yah

[lucid wagon]

Got both Bismarck 41 and Prince of Wales in 20 rolls, AL Shinano in one. But obviously this is an extreme outlier example

Like I’ve also spent ridiculous amounts of money getting ZF-6 G

[dapper thunder]

I have ZF-6... don't remmeber what it cost

[grim portal]

Bis 41?

She's pretty good

[boreal fable]

Why does ignis purgatio randomly get a 3s worse reload than amagi

[lucid wagon]

That made up for 1/8th of my entire wows spending on I think 6 years of trackable history

[boreal fable]

How odd

[quasi jasper]

I will be dropping cash money for golden whisky and Fort Worth

[honest silo]

And thanks for before EmpressCheshire, average_atlanta_enjoyer and SymboliRudolf regarding Indiana.

[lucid wagon]

0.1 signs increase

[honest silo]

And also thanks WandererJester.

[lucid wagon]

Sigma

[void relic]

ignis has better sigma

[boreal fable]

Oh I see

Interesting

[hybrid whale]

range or reload mod for petro

[boreal fable]

range

[light harbor]

I take range

[lucid wagon]

It’s even funnier because Bismarck 41 has same trade off.. but then it is 7s reload

[raw skiff]

Is the other Amagi clone also different?

[lucid wagon]

LOL

[light harbor]

Both are fine

[void relic]

dealers choice

[boreal fable]

actually trick question run legendary mod

[void relic]

both work

[grim portal]

There are more changes though

[dapper thunder]

for $250 it shouldve dropped all 3 ships i didnt have in the pool. instead it dropped 2 blue prizes i already had, and 1 i didn't. that's the problem.

[void relic]

rlly up to how you play

[hybrid whale]

dont quite have leg mod

[lucid wagon]

I mean sure the Bismarck speed boost and manual secondaries sure

[light harbor]

Nah not anymore

[hybrid whale]

or RB

[lucid wagon]

But like it’s just hilarious for the same trade off it loses another 4s on top of the 3s

[grim portal]

Having 13.5 secondary range at t8 is nuts

[light harbor]

You lose a lot with legmod now

[void relic]

bismarck secs also get faster reload in manual

[light harbor]

The humble Ipiranga:

[raw skiff]

Is Ragnarok also different from Amagi?

[light harbor]

Same as Ignis

[grim portal]

She can only do it for 30s at a time

You can keep that up

[light harbor]

This is true

[grim portal]

It's nuts

[lucid wagon]

I honestly don’t think Bismarck 41 is THAT strong

Like I played it a bit

[dapper thunder]

i really wanted the '41. 🙁 I'm idiotic. Shouldve just bought it outright. Thought for sure I would get it anyway and a chance for the cosmetic variant.

[light harbor]

But Bismarck '41 is stuck with GK secondary accuracy no?

[grim portal]

Yeah

[lucid wagon]

Turgut Reis and Lenin solo

Man I love Turgut Reis

[light harbor]

Not sure I'd trust those to hit anything but big cruisers and battleships at max range

[lucid wagon]

Already got 70 games in it

[light harbor]

Both of those are tier 9s in a tier 8 slot for some reason

[grim portal]

And manual secondaries is really wonky you need to ctrl click for it even if you have it locked while using manual secondaries

[lucid wagon]

Yeah

Yk what would’ve been funny

[grim portal]

That's most secondary ships though

[lucid wagon]

If Bismarck released with the same glitch as Albert

[livid bridge]

ngl, I would rather have the 7s reload back instead of a bit more sigma

[lucid wagon]

Adalbert

[livid bridge]

and I will likely never use the manual secondaries anyway

[light harbor]

Not wrong I suppose

[analog jackal]

No buff to libertad, wg ofc ignoring blatantly underpowered ships for another update 😔

[livid bridge]

cuz one side disabled thanks

[lucid wagon]

Like I remember when Adalbert release I think there was glitch where spamming the main guns and secondary key let you shoot secondaries at any angle

I might be remembering wrong but I abused it a lot

[grim portal]

Yeah fair but she's meant to be more secondary oriented anyway

[dapper thunder]

Hmm I got ZF-6 by gambling. I don't remember. win some and lose some I guess.

[grim portal]

The french speed boost and 13.5 secondary range gives you a lot of flexibility

[dapper thunder]

I'm trying to just look at all the blue boosters I got as paying for another resource trade in ship down the line.

[livid bridge]

yeah the manual secondaries is something I will likely never use

[grim portal]

Going 40 knots in a Bismarck is Lindemanns wet dream xd

[lucid wagon]

ZF-6 G cost me 16.2k NT or 500 USD lol.

[light harbor]

Put like that, I don't actually mind this implementation of secondaries

It just exists as a brawling tool against other battleships

[lucid wagon]

Libertad manual secondaries release

[dapper thunder]

Ouch. I didn't spend that much on it. Don't remember how mcuh but I wouldn't normally put more than $100 into it. Maybe I did because I like german DDs.

[lucid wagon]

Called uhhh

Idfk

[grim portal]

It's pretty nasty against cruisers that don't expect it

[light harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-death-penalty-gif-25754511

[honest silo]

I'm for the Major currently saving my Doubloons for the 15.5 Containers as I only did 2 trys with Wishing Warf.

[grim portal]

Plus your main guns are actually quite accurate

Atlantico manual secondaries when

[lucid wagon]

It was one of my worst losses. But I also have some good ones. Got Rhode Island, AL Shinano, Cambridge all for cheap

You win and you lose.

[little abyss]

atlantico shells are too heavy and too floaty for man secs imo

[void relic]

bis 41 wouldve stomped in the t8 sec brawl

[analog jackal]

Yeah

[void relic]

always target someone's bow and win

[honest silo]

Is Cambridge good?

[void relic]

🙏

[lucid wagon]

VERY

dare I say the best t9 CA

Heh

[grim portal]

It'd probably be accurate enough to target for all 4 fires lol

[hybrid whale]

question how many warf tokens can you get through the bounty stuff as a mid af playerr

[analog jackal]

Best ship in the game

[honest silo]

Nice and thanks.

[analog jackal]

2 rolls

[light harbor]

Not sure I agree with that

[analog jackal]

Nah its true

[grim portal]

Alaska:

[lucid wagon]

I enjoy her much more then Alaska

[late linden]

Tulsa:

[light harbor]

No radar = no touchy

[lucid wagon]

Yo Tulsa is not even a contender

[light harbor]

Enjoyment is subjective

[lucid wagon]

Who are we

[light harbor]

Carry power is objective

[late linden]

Idk I'm just saying random names tbh

Vallejo

[analog jackal]

Cambridge is like alaska if it was 100x better at deleting cruisers

[lucid wagon]

I mean yeah Alaska is very good as well but Cambridge has very good reload on very good accuracy, ofc you get super heal as well

Like Cambridge is amazing

[void relic]

Nah, I'd win.

[lucid wagon]

But they’re better or worse in different situations

But you all forget of the TRUE beast of T9. Kronshtadt.

[analog jackal]

i 1 shot a cheshire in my Cambridge yesterday

[light harbor]

As I said before

No radar = no touchy

[analog jackal]

Simply the better cruiser

[lucid wagon]

Kronshtadt is BEST!!

[analog jackal]

Simply holding yourself back

[light harbor]

Therefore the best tier 9 cruiser is actually Katsonis

[late linden]

Ägir

[lucid wagon]

I actually do enjoy playing Kronshtadt as well. I don’t like playing Alaska because I also have the worst luck ever on Alaska B

[merry scarab]

When does trade in start?

[vital delta]

Kronshtadt is awesome when it works, otherwise its poop

[lucid wagon]

And Alaska

[merry scarab]

i thought it was with patch?

[vital delta]

June apparently

[merry scarab]

oh

[honest silo]

Tbh I have USS Alaska CB-1 Is on my wish list.

[vital delta]

Thats what I was told

[analog jackal]

Cambridge is the best cruiser in the game

Also

[honest silo]

Hey FederalExpress.

[grim portal]

Kron is fun but frustrating bc of her bb accuracy

[merry scarab]

damn welp i was thinking ill get Kaga in trade in?

is she good for that?

i want to get into carriers

[analog jackal]

WHERE IS THE SIEGFRIED AND SEVASTAPOOP BUFFS

[light harbor]

Imagine Kron with BC dispersion though

[lucid wagon]

Kronshtadt and Alaska B hold a really special place in my heart for the sheer absurdity at how I got them

[light harbor]

Like unironically

[analog jackal]

they are genuinely so bad

[void relic]

you're going to summon me to stomp you

[light harbor]

She can cit battleships out to like 15km no?

(If the shells hit)

[lucid wagon]

I remember I got Alaska B this year because I gambled 1 normal crate, drop Lazo B unfortunately but I already own Lazo, so I get a second crate and drop Alaska B 💀 I own the original Alaska already but Alaska B is kind of cool so

lol

[untold thistle]

whaat

[vital delta]

I would probably try some TT carriers before committing to kaga if you haven't played carriers before

[analog jackal]

Did you know nevsky can citadel a north carolina at 15km

[lucid wagon]

I opened Lazo B, got dubs back, open another crate, Alaska B

[analog jackal]

😋

[untold thistle]

russian bias?

[light harbor]

I've devstruck an NC as a Brest from ~13km away

It was very funny

[vital delta]

Mainz for the trade in event is gonna be a pretty obvious choice for a lot of people now that it has a heal

[merry scarab]

fair but i mean i was gonna trade in my immelman cause like idk why i have her but i do

[lucid wagon]

Once I devstruck a Colbert as Bungo at 5km 🤯

[light harbor]

...

[analog jackal]

If my account got reset, cambridge would be the only ship i need

[lucid wagon]

Mainz shouldn’t have got a heal

[grim portal]

A t10 Kron is my dream

[light harbor]

Looks at Baltimore

[vital delta]

What does alabama actually have over NC besides extra torp protection?

[lucid wagon]

I feel like I’d rather have the cruiser heal update delayed an extra month if wargaming actually gave balance some thought before release

[analog jackal]

The humble sevastapoop:

[light harbor]

Much better protected cit

[grim portal]

Do not mention that thing

[late linden]

Sevastopol

[grim portal]

SoDak armor scheme is better in general

[light harbor]

Not exactly the same but practically isn't that just Petro?

[grim portal]

And better handling iirc

[vital delta]

Ig, but you get the more accurate guns on NC and improved american heal

[grim portal]

No Petro is very static gameplay

Kron is not

[light harbor]

Huh

[grim portal]

You wanna be moving

[light harbor]

That explains a lot about why Kron didn't work when we tried to use her in CBs

[vital delta]

Kron basically just looks for BB broadsides

[lucid wagon]

Why would you use Kronshtadt in CBs bruh

[analog jackal]

U dont play petro moving?

[lucid wagon]

What are we thinking

[vital delta]

You dont

[light harbor]

Tier 9 CBs

[grim portal]

Her plating is quite thin

[light harbor]

Not that many 12km radar options

[lucid wagon]

Still tho

[grim portal]

25mm all over

[vital delta]

The humble riga

[light harbor]

It's either Kron or I return to Riga jail

[lucid wagon]

My clan just spam Riga and Alaska

[grim portal]

She can't tank

[light harbor]

And I didn't want to be stuck in Riga jail

[void relic]

monkeypaw curls

[vital delta]

Riga better than kron

[void relic]

sevastopol

[grim portal]

STOP

[lucid wagon]

Guys can we all praise Hector

My favourite vehicle

[vital delta]

All hail torp boat hector

[lucid wagon]

I have 417 games in her

It’s growing more and more

I will probably have like 800 Hector games by end of year

[void relic]

imagine if sevastopol had a 40mm deck

[light harbor]

I'm never playing Riga in CBs again

[void relic]

🙏

[light harbor]

I refuse

[lucid wagon]

Who is that dude in Minotaur who has like

30k games

[light harbor]

GP__1

[vital delta]

And youd want to play kron?!

[void relic]

just put me in tianjin and let me flank

[light harbor]

It was someone else playing Kron

[lucid wagon]

How do you have 30,000 Minotaur games. I genuinely wonder how.

[void relic]

i live for flanking

[light harbor]

I was in Brest

[grim portal]

Once I regrind haru line I'll have enough rb points for another ship but lowk sevastapol and sicilia are the only choices I don't want druid or ocean or gibraltar

[lucid wagon]

Don’t you mean best ship Wukong

[deep swan]

oh yeah check your consumables before you play a cruiser
lots of cruisers had their consumables reset

[vital delta]

Sevastapol 😭

[void relic]

son wukong

[deep swan]

fighter plane Charles Martel OP

[light harbor]

We love DFAA

[deep swan]

[lucid wagon]

Wukong is super op

[trail salmon]

Hi

[vital delta]

Atp just hoard your research for a salvage event

[lucid wagon]

Trust

[void relic]

thats what i run on cheshire normally

[eternal geyser]

shits ass anyway

[trail salmon]

Journey to the west

[eternal geyser]

tianjin goat

[light harbor]

Well you can carry

[void relic]

hello

[grim portal]

You don't understand the special connection I have with the krondstadt

[light harbor]

Must radar

[trail salmon]

How's your day

[void relic]

😎

[void relic]

good

[light harbor]

No radar = no touchy

[vital delta]

Sevastapol is a different beast to kronshtadt

[trail salmon]

Nice

[grim portal]

When I radar a DD in Kron and hit 3 shells in 2 salvos

[eternal geyser]

simply a difference in skill

[void relic]

the fun thing to do sevastopol is go wide

[deep swan]

it might be only French cruisers that got messed up

[void relic]

and run up the flank if its not adequately protected

[little abyss]

12km radar is pretty fun

i wish it wasnt on soviet cruisers

[light harbor]

Not as frustrating as trying to HE spam enemy cruisers from 18km as Riga

[little abyss]

pioneer radar is happy happy fun time

[light harbor]

The dispersion gets real wonky

[eternal geyser]

i am getting

pioneer

[light harbor]

And Riga DPM is just so bad

[grim portal]

Kron literally has BB accuracy bruh

[trail salmon]

Best ship des mo

[lucid wagon]

My first game in Pioneer I got slapped on by a Siegfried of all things

[little abyss]

theres lots of better steel radar cruisers than pioneer

however

[lucid wagon]

Dude did 25k to me now on LOL

[vital delta]

The only thing I can say about kron is id rather play kron than carnot

[honest silo]

But yeah I honestly really hope to get and have Bridgeport one day guys.

[little abyss]

pioneer turbo griefing archerfishes is healing

[eternal geyser]

happy happy funtime?

lo

[trail salmon]

Pioneer 🥀

[light harbor]

Look at the vertical

[honest silo]

Hey David.

[light harbor]

(This is at 18km)

[trail salmon]

Heyo

[lucid wagon]

Guys let’s all play best ship Stalingrad

[eternal geyser]

i wonder what they are doing with undies

[light harbor]

I will play literally anything as long it's not Riga

[eternal geyser]

i want them

well

it

[lucid wagon]

Oh really

[light harbor]

In clan battles

[lucid wagon]

Hizen

[light harbor]

Jokes on you

I don't have Hizen

[deep swan]

iwami

[vital delta]

Idk what my next steel ship should be, im thinking pioneer, Willem, or stalingrad

[deep swan]

pommern

[light harbor]

I don't have those either

[lucid wagon]

Willem is strongest

[left kestrel]

Komissar

https://tenor.com/view/essex-azur-lane-seseren-gif-822096645756115046

[lucid wagon]

Yo Komissar is ass

[trail salmon]

Wanna division later

[lucid wagon]

Like sure the guns are really nice

[left kestrel]

Best CA guns in T10

[lucid wagon]

But otherwise komissar is just bad

[light harbor]

[vital delta]

When they put komissar guns on a normal cruiser hull rhen I will get it

[light harbor]

Bold take

[trail salmon]

@khlaxia

[lucid wagon]

That’s just be op

[light harbor]

Komissar guns are not nearly as good as Stalingrad guns

[left kestrel]

*Best CA guns, CL guns are fundamentally different

[deep swan]

Komissar guns on a proper hull would make a great T11

[light harbor]

Stalingrad is not a light cruiser

[lucid wagon]

Yes it is

305mm super light

[light harbor]

Okay it is

[lucid wagon]

Dr

[light harbor]

It has been declared

[vital delta]

Stalingrad is an ultra light

Duh

[left kestrel]

Komissar sweeps stalin in terms of general gun performance

[lucid wagon]

Stalingrad is far too light ngl

[left kestrel]

Stalin just has the high pen niche

[vital delta]

Has anyone tried slava with the buff? If so how is it?

[light harbor]

?

Stalin even has better threshold

[left kestrel]

Mf im talking about using them not the arbitrary ap pen metric

Stuff like disp and dpm

[light harbor]

Even then

[lucid wagon]

I have a feeling Turgut Reis will be a steel ship for some reason

But I’m also like 90% chance of being wrong

Tier 8 steel ship lel

[lucid wagon]

Will the time ever come

[left kestrel]

Or its just stuck permanently behind crates

[light harbor]

One of many

[lucid wagon]

Omg Oguri cap

[vital delta]

How that ship is T8 is beyond me

[lucid wagon]

Same reason Lenin is totally a T8

[eternal geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/food-fatty-fat-chunky-chubby-gif-18128906829690791213

[light harbor]

With some very minor tweaking she can be a tier 10

[trail salmon]

Uhhhhhhhh

Admiral bundles can't be steel ships

No?

[lucid wagon]

Valparaiso

[upper wyvern]

lenin wasnt that much better than the tech tree ships when they all came out

[deep swan]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1095780276824702976/1493048117409480785/Snacked.gif

[lucid wagon]

Why are we lying

[light harbor]

I mean that thing is just a supership

Tier 9 is just a flat lie

[dapper thunder]

Got 3 bounties in this match. Never really played ZF-6 before, was an accident because I was looking at it in port.

[deep swan]

The line had the same dispersion as Lenin on release, no?

[trail salmon]

Oh

Well

Thats like

[light harbor]

I believe so

[trail salmon]

Steel will

[lucid wagon]

I don’t remember

[upper wyvern]

ye lenin is the only one that kept the original formula

[lucid wagon]

I just luv Lenin tho

Mega balanced T8

[deep swan]

Vlad with lenin dispersion was nuts

it would just delete people

[light harbor]

Lenin also has a better turret layout and armor scheme on top though

Vlad's bow is massive

[lucid wagon]

They should honestly just go back and nerf all the older premiums but alas because of the lack of clause or whatever

[light harbor]

Instead we powercreep them

[upper wyvern]

there's not really any op old premiums that exist

[light harbor]

[lucid wagon]

Uhh?

Smaland? Musashi? Smolensk before commander rework? Thunderer?

[upper wyvern]

none of those are op

[eternal geyser]

they all get mogged

had their time, time is not now

[upper wyvern]

all mogged by tech tree ships

[light harbor]

None of those are as OP now because of powercreep

Also if you think Smaland isn't OP anymore I'm not sure what to tell you

[little abyss]

kommisar guns are pretty cracked

honestly she's a pretty nice kiting cruiser

[lucid wagon]

Honestly only Thunderer has been somewhat crept, Smolensk is just bad now

[little abyss]

its like if uh

[lucid wagon]

Just play Jinan

[vital delta]

Can we stop pretending those ships are OP? let's focus on actually op ship like pommern, z44, and jager

[trail salmon]

Wooooo rep China babyy

[lucid wagon]

I cannot think of any equivalent to Musashi or Smaland. Gdansk I guess.

[little abyss]

nevsky was more ap focused and traded a 12km radar for planes

[light harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/truth-impact-third-impact-3rd-impact-truth-nuke-anime-meme-gif-9672669363915948084

[dapper thunder]

smolensk and musashi are not OP. smaland i am really bad with so i dunno what the story is on that. i should try again now that i have a little more dd knowledge.

[lucid wagon]

Gdansk it YY UU

[left kestrel]

Just run reload mod outnumbered guh

[upper wyvern]

smaland is strong in the hands of a good player

but not op

[little abyss]

range mod is sadly mandatory

[light harbor]

Musashi is like one of two tier 9s that stands an actual chance against Valparaiso

[left kestrel]

You will see shots previously thought impossible

[little abyss]

reload mod kommisar is rough

[light harbor]

Explain

[dapper thunder]

is benham OP? I do ok with benham.

[lucid wagon]

How in any way is Smaland not “op”

[upper wyvern]

musashi is probably the least likely to beat a valpa

[left kestrel]

Not really, even in asia i can still make use of 17km

[hybrid whale]

sashi is also essentially a t10

[left kestrel]

[trail salmon]

Gdansk is too big tho

[light harbor]

Valp is unironically pretty easy to cit through the nose with overmatch

And Musashi can do that

[dapper thunder]

i saw a valp get facerolled just now. a 43% wr player. i was like hey you know that got nerfed right... you are gonna di.... die.

[trail salmon]

Also smaland gets a heal

[deep swan]

musashi can hit the citadel at any angle, which helps

[left kestrel]

Valp wont make it past lion in a 1v1

[light harbor]

Gdansk kind of gets bullied outside of her smoke

[lucid wagon]

Closest thing you can get to cope about not having Smaland

Ragnar is to giga giant for me to consider it

[light harbor]

Ragnar is a cruiser

[upper wyvern]

ragnar is better than smaland

[lucid wagon]

Ok bro

[light harbor]

Not really an equivalent to Smaland beyond the turret layout

[deep swan]

in a 1v1 maybe

[dapper thunder]

i'd like to be able to play svea

[light harbor]

Ragnar struggles against battleships

Smaland has usable torpedoes

[upper wyvern]

no it doesn't?

just a self report at this point

[deep swan]

Ragnar is not legally allowed to play the game when a libertad is still alive

[eternal geyser]

lol

[left kestrel]

Ragnar gets hard countered by any SAP DD + Harugumo, the existence of these boats in a flank basically forces the ragnar to play passive at max range

[light harbor]

Also Ragnar has to manage her consumables very carefully to have good game impact

[left kestrel]

[upper wyvern]

but smaland with less gun range is groovy vs libertad?

[deep swan]

also no

but can still do something

[light harbor]

Smaland at least has torps

[vital delta]

How do people play halland willingly?

[trail salmon]

I don't have smaland :(

Sadge

[deep swan]

instead of brain there is RPF

[left kestrel]

Torp hit missions and the occasional CV squad wipe

[grim portal]

Smaland is mobile enough that she can also dodge a lot of libertads sec dpm (assuming u have speed boost up)

[analog jackal]

Groz is my goat

[dapper thunder]

So didn't hear any opinions... is Benham OP? I think it increases winrate over your average torp dd.

[light harbor]

Ragnar is really good yes, but she can be screwed out of having any game impact if you get bad matchmaking

[grim portal]

I remember when the groz was good

[deep swan]

until it hits F key lol
triple a DM's DPM for 30s

[light harbor]

Smaland doesn't care as much

[grim portal]

Yes she is

[left kestrel]

Id trade one torp rack for 3 uses of short burst smog

If only

[untold talon]

So not good then 😄

[light harbor]

Compared to Smaland sure

Now go play your destroyer into a competent Ragnar and see how you do

I'm sure she's just inherently underpowered

[eternal geyser]

🍿

[sand moth]

can anyone help me with a bug? when i use my consumables it gets used then when teh timer becomes zero it gets stuck and cooldown never happens . I can only use each conmable once per match

[grim portal]

Smaland was a lot of fun in that accuracy reload brawl

[left kestrel]

Ok, ragnar isnt the DD killer

[grim portal]

Most cruisers can't hit you and you have a 0.3s reload

[light harbor]

That's probably a cruiser of some sort, yes

[grim portal]

Ragnar is the cruiser botherer

[light harbor]

But Ragnar's pretty close as destroyers go

[left kestrel]

Something like vamp ii is better at destroyer killing

[light harbor]

[left kestrel]

[honest silo]

I will be back later guys.

[light harbor]

Vamp II is great but she's not very good at making trades with destroyers

No survivability gimmick

[left kestrel]

Vamps biggest problem is indeed the enemy team bothering

[light harbor]

Also hydro destroyers kind of just lose vs. radar in general anyway

[grim portal]

Vamp is great at cap contesting but Daring is better for the anti DD function

[deep swan]

the fast reload brawl was not very well thought out with some ships

[left kestrel]

1v1 hypothetical she does a lot better than ragnar

[grim portal]

Not really

[light harbor]

Not really

[grim portal]

It's meant to be fun and silly

[light harbor]

Okay literally the same words

[deep swan]

it nearly broke my mouse

hawaii gaming

[left kestrel]

Down to the letters and spacing lmao

[light harbor]

But like Vamp 2 needs enemy destroyers to play into her smoke

[cold geyser]

so dont play them

[light harbor]

Ragnar just radars when spotted

[left kestrel]

TGG Vamp

Thats what i run

[light harbor]

...what?

[left kestrel]

I dont smog till the enemy shoots me

[grim portal]

https://tenor.com/view/sadhotgirl-gif-22225832

[cold geyser]

would you play a deepwater torp boat in the DD torp brawl?

no

[light harbor]

Wait that's a Fletcher in the background

[grim portal]

SPOTTED RADARING

[cold geyser]

sometimes, theres boats u dont play

[deep swan]

Hawaii was very effective in the brawl
it was just slightly ridiculous to try and shoot as fast as the guns could load

[grim portal]

I think it might be kidd?

[light harbor]

Sherman was basically unusable if you went all-in on the guns

[light harbor]

I save

[left kestrel]

Ah that brawl

[deep swan]

autoclicker go brrrrrrrrrr

[left kestrel]

I used burrows

[light harbor]

I used Martin mostly

[left kestrel]

Basically denied croozers and dd alike

[light harbor]

And Salem I guess

But Martin was more fun

[grim portal]

Bremen was by far the best

[deep swan]

SM was really funny to see evaporate into IFHE hawaii

do not run IFHE hawaii normally

[grim portal]

You just melted all the cruisers

[deep swan]

but in the meme brawl it worked

[light harbor]

Bremen was probably the best yes

[deep swan]

illegal technology

[light harbor]

Skies blotted out by shells

[grim portal]

Only 4 turrets so no carpal tunnel too

[hybrid whale]

question does bismarck 41 has any distinct differences for upgrades than bismarck

[light harbor]

Yes

[upper wyvern]

i wouldnt build the tt for secondaries

[light harbor]

Run engine boost mod in slot 2 if you have a spare

[grim portal]

Upgrades as in modules or general differences?

[hybrid whale]

dont

[hybrid whale]

like build

[light harbor]

Scrounge up some coal then

[grim portal]

Bis 41 going 40 knots for 4 minutes

[deep swan]

some people made the highly questionable choice of bringing Hildebrand to that brawl

[grim portal]

No you build her the same but speed boost mod instead of hydro mod in slot 2 if you have it

[boreal fable]

Well my ranked teams are just so bad that I get MVP without fail and never lose rank... sick

[blazing palm]

It has engine boost instead of hydro, worse base reload, better accuracy, and the main highlight, the manual secondaries

[deep swan]

think about how fast Hildebrand dies normally when it gets shot at
and then make the DPM 3x higher

[light harbor]

They deserve it

[radiant olive]

You can build 41 for secondaries unlike the tt counterpart

[hybrid whale]

so stock bismarck and bis 41 should be buildt identically exept engine boost rather than hydro

[light harbor]

Do you build techtree Bismarck for main guns?

[radiant olive]

Yes

[grim portal]

I had that infernal camo for t8s saved from a battle pass and put it on bis 41 cuz it makes the secondary guns sound meaty asf

[topaz coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-pesci-what-the-fuck-wtf-shit-piece-of-shit-gif-14428605025370949552

[deep swan]

speaking of dumb decisions
Enigheten in secondary brawls

[untold thistle]

torpedoes

[grim portal]

I know some people bring sub optimal ships just to grind them outside of randoms

[boreal fable]

Ah the bxp diff is mega suspicious

[grim portal]

I did that with a lot of t7s

[boreal fable]

Why am I being put with these bums

[deep swan]

the torp reload was set to 300 minutes or something

[hybrid whale]

so commander is just the recommended build that the game offers

[untold thistle]

huh, nvm then

[grim portal]

Yeah basically

[radiant olive]

Barkond would you build tt bismarck for main batt or secondaries

[grim portal]

The secondary brawl was just age of sail tactics with ww2 ships

[hybrid whale]

vigilence or ifhe

[grim portal]

Vig

[deep swan]

yeah it just helps if your ship has more than 2 secondaries

[grim portal]

IFHE is useless

[radiant olive]

In bis 41?

[grim portal]

Yeah

[hybrid whale]

thanks

[radiant olive]

Makes you pen 32mm tho

[light harbor]

Oh wait Bis '41 has 105s