game-discussion

[vague cedar]

i forgot Montcalm exists
Sorry not sorry

[subtle fable]

No ZH-1 is historical

[vague cedar]

I mean a DY with mid-point reward as a ship

Bruh

[subtle fable]

Oh

Sry

[hearty solstice]

wow is this a new scam method

[light harbor]

I'm not that good as a Martin in randoms sadly

[whole meteor]

martin when its asia hours

[vague cedar]

*Pretend to be surprised

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/vulpis-cry-scream-no-shout-gif-6105065340435513454

[light harbor]

The answer is to play more Moskva

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-incredible-krill-crab-gif-4661271430329690317

[vague cedar]

Now - if i do create a new NA account, what would its name be...

Hmm...

[mental sundial]

Gotta learn how many big guys you can take on at once

[light harbor]

This is true

Also the last Martin game I had was such a bad blowout that we were zero'd out

[light harbor]

average-hindenburg-enjoyer

[whole meteor]

no

average_brennus_enjoyer

[mental sundial]

Average_Surv_Enjoyer

[vague cedar]

Your_Average_Dong_Merchant

[whole meteor]

unremarkable_asia_enjoyer

[vague cedar]

Hmm...

[light harbor]

i_like_living perhaps

[vague cedar]

That sounds too desperate lol

[pliant relic]

i_hate_living

lol

[light harbor]

That keeps that name available for my inevitable name-change down the line then

[magic arrow]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/881816823962685452/1031079393252102174/shrimp-its-as-shrimple-as-that.gif

[vague cedar]

Gizmo!

[light harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/shrimp-shrimp-typing-shrimp-computer-computer-gif-3506085040301826713

[vague cedar]

[magic arrow]

Howdy

[rare schooner]

Found 1 build for Alliance!

Source Document: wo.ws/builds

Click the button(s) to open a build.

[light harbor]

I still need 4 million more silver to get Orage

[vague cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/howdy-cowboy-tom-and-jerry-old-west-gif-5543643

[light harbor]

It is really strange seeing that as a gif after watching Tom & Jerry practically endlessly in my childhood

[vague cedar]

Staying awake from 2 A.M. - what could possibly go wrong though

[sick cargo]

i don't know if i want to grind martin, adalbert or bungo next

guess ill do all 3 at the same time

[vague cedar]

It is a timeless classic, after all.

[light harbor]

Indeed

[vague cedar]

It's either T&J, Oggy and the Cockroaches, Doraemon or Zig and Skarko

Oh the time, it flies...

[hearty solstice]

Atlanta with heal my wet dream

[silver matrix]

HELP how do i access a chat from a game which had ended

[whole meteor]

mods

[tall geyser]

pro byzantine empire

[silver matrix]

tq

[silver matrix]

i'll search it up rn

[tall geyser]

yes

emperor Constantine XI

https://tenor.com/view/gigachad-giga-ai-nas-gigafly-gif-13005993830519619366

[silver matrix]

is there any way to change server from asia to na ?

[blazing quest]

Ok

[hearty solstice]

you can but your data wont be transferred

[tawdry turret]

its basically a way to say make a new account

[muted eagle]

Dressed like he enjoy other cowboys around him only.

[vague cedar]

Dress to impress the girl(s), it's one thing

Dress to impress the boys though, it's a whole damn art in of itself

And Tom sure as hell mastered that art

[lone delta]

Hi guys. New day came, it is time for grinding and doing event pass missions. Don't forget to claim a link rewards on armory

Have a good and productive day

Cya

[boreal fable]

guess the boat

[chilly minnow]

incheon

[tawdry turret]

sry for the game man

[boreal fable]

How does one get 1.7mil pot in icheon

[tawdry turret]

i got farmed badly from the smoked Nep

[chilly minnow]

by being good?

what boat

[lone delta]

It havent a secondaries hit

[boreal fable]

What were u playing

[tawdry turret]

ur flank CC

[lone delta]

So it is not a battleship at least

[eager pumice]

I've probably broken 2mil in lots of cruisers just by

Uhh

Dodging well or being spammed by high DPM stuff at range

[boreal fable]

ah... I genuine carried the flank and the team is almost losing, wait they're bringing it back

Luckily bungo can carry

[chilly minnow]

wat boat

answer question

[lone delta]

Bungo?

[tawdry turret]

SMasochist

[boreal fable]

I dev'd a valp, 1v1ed and beat a incomp (at the same time btw)

guess the boat

Take a guess

[boreal fable]

All goods bro no worries

[lone delta]

It is not German stuff at least coz no secondaries hits

[boreal fable]

True

Mega hint

It has no secondaries at all

[lone delta]

It have torpedoes and pretty much main battery hits

[rustic hearth]

paolo emilio?

[pulsar steppe]

Oh boy, damage record:

[mental sundial]

gn @void relic

[lone delta]

I guess it's Harugumo or it's tech tree, but im not sure

[rain flare]

is that german battleship from the wharf token pull any decent?

not the bismarck, the other tier 8

[chilly minnow]

idk

tell me

[boreal fable]

Okay the answer isssss

San amrtin

[lone delta]

It's a dd

[boreal fable]

Martin

[lone delta]

Wha

Ah

[chilly minnow]

oh

welp

[lone delta]

Because potential damage

[chilly minnow]

figured something more cool :/

[lone delta]

1.7mil

[rustic hearth]

that explains the lack of fire ribbons

[boreal fable]

I only used 2/5 heals lols

[void relic]

sleep well

[boreal fable]

We got giga pushed by incomp and valp

I 2v1ed them and won

poor incomp only overpenned... :(

[lone delta]

Overpushed a Valpa? How does it even possible

[boreal fable]

But despite the 2v1 carry, my team sold... as always

[lone delta]

It has a lot of heal

[boreal fable]

I dev'd with the 4 torpedoes

[lone delta]

You mean insta hit, so he can't overheal it

Nice

[boreal fable]

he just used his heal, peaked around a corner and ate 4 torps

75k ish raw damage

[lone delta]

What a dumb Valpa player

[boreal fable]

Nah it wasnt a dumb move honestly

I just shot my torps past him

And wasnt spotted

SO he assumed oh he used his torps let me push

But i fidget spinend on him adn got my other side torps off

[lone delta]

He have 7 heals and unlimited damage control, coz of instructions that is easy to activate

[boreal fable]

🙏

[lone delta]

Holy croissant I should say, coz im a French tech tree enjoyer. How do you lose even you carried

[boreal fable]

interesting?

[rustic hearth]

the wait is painful

[boreal fable]

The problem was... there was somethign carrying the opposite flank JUST AS HARD as I did, and we still lost

Lowkey a 2v12 bruh

[lone delta]

So what is that

[boreal fable]

"Generous load of rewards" 😭

[lone delta]

Who was that ship

[boreal fable]

bungo

Here is replay if you're interested

[lone delta]

Uh, that was tough, bungo can't push, coz of lack of armor

[boreal fable]

yeah nah he was the last boat alive then got basically devd by colombo

[lone delta]

Ok I got it

[boreal fable]

THis is why my san martussy WR is low 🙏

[lone delta]

Are we having an info for what ship we can exchange for in trade in event

[boreal fable]

Yeah that info exists

[lone delta]

They said it is about 230 ships to choose from

[boreal fable]

Tier X

Thunderer, Smolensk, Álvaro de Bazán, A. da Barbiano, Mecklenburg, Shikishima, Incomparable, Archerfish, Bourgogne, G. Kurfürst, Brennus, Salem, Ohio, Shinano, Svea, Stalingrad, Småland, Sicilia, Colbert, R. Lauria, Austin, Slava, Marceau, Hull, F. D. Roosevelt, Yoshino, Z-42, Komissar, Moskva, Hayate, Gato, Plymouth, Malta, Druid, Vampire II, Ragnar, Khabarovsk, Sevastopol, Gibraltar, Irresistible, Amiral Lartigue, Napoli, F. Sherman, M. Immelmann, Incheon, Monmouth, Seal

Tier IX

Ägir, Georgia, Alaska, Jean Bart, Z-44, Tulsa, Illinois, Pommern, Paolo Emilio, Vallejo, Iwami, Azuma, Friesland, Kearsarge, Hector, Siegfried, Van Speijk, Groningen, Nanning, Tianjin, F. Gonzaga, Carnot, Marco Polo, Navarin, Giuseppe Verdi, Sun Yat-Sen, Velos, Minegumo, Dalian, Karl XIV Johan

Tier VIII

Anhalt, Massachusetts, Kutuzov, Cheshire, Kii, Asashio, Alabama, Cossack, C. Aguirre, M. Colonna, Nottingham, D. Pozharsky, Almte. Grau, San Diego, Tirpitz, Hornet, Wichita, Rochester, Prinz Eugen, Bayard, Indomitable, Chkalov, Tone, Orkan, Siliwangi, Saipan, Ochakov, P. Bagration, Constellation, Borodino, Fenyang, Flandre, S-189, Congress, Aquila, Hampshire, Z-35, Tiger '59, Graf Zeppelin, Roma, Gascogne, Belfast '43, Le Terrible, Irian, Picardie, Numancia, Eskimo, Provorny, Alliance, Kidd, Loyang, Vanguard, Atago, Mainz, Kaga, I-56, Brandenburg

[tawdry turret]

[boreal fable]

Tier VII

Gorizia, Poltava, Rodney, Błyskawica, Gambia, Lazo, Nelson, Lugdunum, Teng She, Duke of York, Haida, Z-39, Huron, Scharnhorst '43, Nürnberg '44, Lanzhou, Tokachi, Renown '44, F. Ferruccio, Stord '43, Royal Sovereign, Arkhangelsk, Yūdachi, Hood, Boise, Hyūga, California, Strasbourg, Maya, Ashitaka, Abruzzi, Nueve de Julio, München, Yukon, Toulon, Collingwood, FR25, Jupiter '42, Tashkent '39, Florida, Scharnhorst, Leningrad, Weimar, Sims, Indianapolis, Atlanta, W. Virginia '44

Tier VI

Repulse, Leone, Montcalm, Graf Spee, Makarov, Xin Zhong Guo 14, Leipzig, Aigle, Orion '44, Anshan, T-61, E. Loewenhardt, Ark Royal, Dido, Elli, Gallant, Huanghe, Mutsu, Ise, Molotov, Warspite, Perth, Juruá, Mysore, Duca d'Aosta, Novorossiysk, Arizona, Canarias, Monaghan, Dupleix, W. Virginia '41, De Grasse, P. E. Friedrich, London, Dunkerque, Béarn, K. Schönberg

Tier V

Mikoyan, Marblehead, Marblehead Lima, Hill, Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya, Kalmar, Rio de Janeiro, Yahagi, Kirov, Viribus Unitis, Krasny Krym, Genova, Okhotnik, Exeter, Texas, Murmansk, Siroco, Agincourt

there u go

[tawdry turret]

thats the input

[boreal fable]

every ship U can trade in

[lone delta]

If only Jean Bart exists in this list

I would change dumb carnot for Jean bart

[eager pumice]

Trading in anything blue / red / limited is

Kind of crazy lol

[boreal fable]

I can trade groningen but not friesland? outrageous

[eager pumice]

Those are ships you can trade in not trade for

[lone delta]

Equal croissant change

[eager pumice]

As in you get rid of that ship on the list

[scenic osprey]

😔

[eager pumice]

And it's not full value either

[boreal fable]

Ships you can get
Incheon, Monmouth, Seal, Giuseppe Verdi, Sun Yat-Sen, Velos, Minegumo, Dalian, Karl XIV Johan, Loyang, Vanguard, Atago, Mainz, Kaga, I-56, Brandenburg, Scharnhorst, Leningrad, Weimar, Sims, Indianapolis, Atlanta, W. Virginia ’44, De Grasse, P. E. Friedrich, London, Dunkerque, Béarn, K. Schönberg, Okhotnik, Exeter, Texas, Murmansk, Siroco, Agincourt

[lone delta]

Nooooo, la policia

[rustic hearth]

who is willingly trading in a steel ship

[boreal fable]

still no jean bart

[whole meteor]

me

[boreal fable]

someone who has access to steel but doesnt spend money so cant get a dubs ship

[eager pumice]

Genuinely
Who would trade in a steel ship or things like Thunderer / Smaland / Musashi / Smolensk

You can't pay for that

[rustic hearth]

fair enouf

[boreal fable]

none of thse things are on the list :/

[cold geyser]

🐴

[eager pumice]

They're on the trade-in list

[rustic hearth]

as in you can turn those ships in

[boreal fable]

Ohhh I thought you meant trade in a steel ship FOR x and y and z

[lone delta]

Oi, Oi im crying. I can do nothing about my dumb Carnot. It sucks

[boreal fable]

trade it for elos or dalien or smth

[lone delta]

I bought it for gold to farm

[eager pumice]

You might even say
You carnot handle this

[boreal fable]

If u trade it in for a tier 8 u dont have to spend dubs

If you trade for same tier you might have to spend dubs

most likely

[lone delta]

Holy phrase

[boreal fable]

Okay but I have a 21 point commander and full build on groningen but like nothing for friesland... bruh I wanted to trade friesland

[eager pumice]

It's something like half value so you still need to top up

Which IMO is tragic

[lone delta]

What a Seal does?

[boreal fable]

submarine... dont get it

[lone delta]

Does it silly seal enemies

[eager pumice]

I'd consider trading in if the exchange rate was better

[boreal fable]

IMO?

[eager pumice]

In my opinion

[boreal fable]

I see

I think that's tragic in everybody's opinion

Shall i put rudder mod on my friesland... hm

[rustic hearth]

its a tragedy i cant trade in my hawaii for a malta

[eager pumice]

Yeah I end up never using the trade ins

The math doesn't math to me

[boreal fable]

Watch your tongue boy

[lone delta]

True. It not likely from WoT. You can trade there without top up if you have rare tank that can be exchanged for full price

[eager pumice]

I'm mostly F2P so losing any doub value off my account is lame

[rustic hearth]

[lone delta]

What's Incheon

[whole meteor]

incheon

[boreal fable]

Yeah I feel you, but I have like two versions of some premiums like friesland and groni that I'd get rid of one

[whole meteor]

its inching it on

[boreal fable]

And I have 2 prem cvs I'm giga getting rid of

asap

[rustic hearth]

what are the 2 cvs

[lone delta]

And you know also

[boreal fable]

saipan and graf zeppy

[rustic hearth]

[lone delta]

You can exchange only 1 time for this event

[boreal fable]

I might keep graf zeppy bcs the secondaries could be funny but saipan is turbo ass

[eager pumice]

Even for my Bearn it's like

If I trade a T6 I never use

And get a lower tier ship

Then I drop the same T6 again instead of something else

[boreal fable]

Where did you get this information

[eager pumice]

Loss of variety 👎

[boreal fable]

Yeah nah that ain't a good trade

[eager pumice]

Yeah
None of it really seems like a good deal to me

[lone delta]

I read it on additional patch info in changes fixes info

[eager pumice]

And anything of blue rarity or higher is an immediate no touch

[boreal fable]

There was a thing that said you an only exchange one ship for one other ship, you can't exchange two ships to get one ship. That's probably what you're thinking of

[eager pumice]

Just because you can't get it back

[lone delta]

Correct I may have not understood

[lone delta]

That was

Ok

[boreal fable]

Tiger 59 is lowkey a good ranked ship hot take or smth

Nah jokes its so ass

[livid pendant]

Tiger 59 lacks capability to deal with BB

and shuffled everything towards dealing with DD

[lone delta]

Guys im probably getting a top up for Sun Yat Sen. It S A Soviet ship under Pan Asian flag. Have 6 457 mm guns, and pretty good accuracy actually

[boreal fable]

anything that isnt a dd or an ultralight takes 0 damage

[livid pendant]

& about defending an objective

[boreal fable]

You even heal bbs actually if they have the 3 pointer

Negative damage fr

[livid pendant]

[boreal fable]

Give tiger 59 elbing guns instead and I'd play the shi outa that

[livid pendant]

tbh though tiger 59 has good hull platting

[boreal fable]

tiger 59 is the most survivable cruiser at tier 8, no doubt about it

[livid pendant]

it still could survive some large calibre AP hits

[lone delta]

I just got a 1vs1 on ranked with him. Im standing bow on Cherbourg and he stand bow too. I can't penetrate him we'll in any progection even with 305 mm guns

[boreal fable]

the most manouverable boat with the best heal

[lone delta]

And he outDpmed me

[boreal fable]

that results in negative damage to anything with armour

[livid pendant]

I think it has 25 mm platting correct?

I once fought a Tennesee head on

[boreal fable]

How does one achieve this

[boreal fable]

yeah it does

[lone delta]

Even I have used gun reload consumable twice

[boreal fable]

Genuine shoot the guns with ap or the bow with HE and u win

[livid pendant]

if it were 16 I'd been bustet

[lone delta]

Does he have 203 mm guns?

[lucid wagon]

thats like the one case scenario you dont get immediately overmatched

since Tennesse has 356s

[livid pendant]

yeah but 25 definitely helps

like Svea

[lucid wagon]

90% of T8 BBs will bow cit a Tiger 59 easily

[boreal fable]

150s

[lone delta]

If so he just was penetrating me in bow armor deck

[livid pendant]

thought tiger 59 is nothing like svea

[lone delta]

It is?

Fah

[boreal fable]

belfast is objectively better

[lone delta]

It is a magic of British detonator of shells, they exploding when just get to the ship

[obtuse bridge]

Tiger 59 mentioned in 2026. Why?

[lucid wagon]

so we can all realize the Belfast 43 is just inf better

[boreal fable]

Poor belfast 43 got left out of the cruiser at tier 8 heal movement

[lucid wagon]

belfast 43 with a heal would be mega unbalanced

so its ok

[lone delta]

Yeah he out dpmed me with just 2 twin turrets, while I got 2 quadruple and got used 2 reload consumable. Nor AP nor HE could not resolve a problem. How 305 mm guns does not get the traverse through the 25 mm bow

[boreal fable]

Lowkyey said that

[obtuse bridge]

Tiger 59 was never good

No shit any other ship is better

[lucid wagon]

I dont think a cruiser that has ridiculous HE DPM & firestarting abilities w/ smoke + radar + torpedoes needs a heal

Bayard is more questionable

[obtuse bridge]

Should I come back or no hmm

[lone delta]

No actually it is very good. It have both Radar and Smoke while tech tree should choose between one of those

[lucid wagon]

also the fact that if you need to really 'survive' in Belfast 43 you can just spam smoke in like

30 second intervals

and that you have 8.9km conceal

[obtuse bridge]

Great meme

[lone delta]

It an utility

[lucid wagon]

Belfast 43 does this better with actual guns

lel

[lone delta]

Ok

[boreal fable]

yeah bellfast is just so much better its genuine just a troll

other than survivability

Negative survivability on belfast

[lucid wagon]

its not even negative survivability

[boreal fable]

agh my gardddd, another ranked game where I single handedly soloed a dd and bb and we still lost

[lucid wagon]

it has ridiculous concealment + spammable short burst smoke

[boreal fable]

Can we please grant Ryzen a COMPOTENT team

[obtuse bridge]

People should play more CLs on tier 10 imo so I can dev strike them with Stalin

[lucid wagon]

the Tiger 59's one redeeming light is that it can just heal a shit ton

[ashen pond]

i feel you brother

[lone delta]

Bro so what is your suggestion for me to penetrate cruisers in a bow. I can't even. Both AP and HE 305 mm shells, so low damage

[boreal fable]

shoot his turrets with ap

depends how close though

Further than like 8km just shoot him with HE into the bow

[whole meteor]

do you not know

how to shoot cheek?

[boreal fable]

Into a perfectly bow in boat? thats not possible

With no improved ap angles

[whole meteor]

na but you force belfast to greed

by commiting mind games

[lone delta]

I guess I can penetrate citadel from the bow at that point, coz of big guns to 25 mm bow, but unluckly I cant

[boreal fable]

Interesting

[whole meteor]

try the 5d chess card

[obtuse bridge]

Smolensk player when it gets caught by my Stalin's radar and then deleted 3 seconds later 😂

[boreal fable]

Nah 305s dont overmatch 25mm, wouldnt work

[lone delta]

Why Yamato can penetrate it's classemates in a bow

[lucid wagon]

"mind games" = hope theyre dumb

[lone delta]

And mine cant

[whole meteor]

nana

trus

[boreal fable]

because yamato has 406s not 305s

[whole meteor]

go bow to bow

[lone delta]

Can you explain how it works

[whole meteor]

and force him to overturn

[boreal fable]

Yamato overmatched 32mm, 305s overmatch like what 14mm

[lone delta]

460 *

[lucid wagon]

pls go broadside in your cruiser that has smoke + radar + good guns 🥹

[obtuse bridge]

Because Yamato sucks in every other aspect except guns

[lucid wagon]

(no reason too)

[whole meteor]

and then use your ass turret

[eager pumice]

The correct way to play OG Belfast is just to run around open water spotting people and controlling all your engagements, taking out one dude at a time and using the smoke for disengaging, hold downs, or quick radar kills

Don't be baited
Don't go for the cap early

In fact you can sometimes cap whole flanks without people even working out it's a Belfast not a DD

[boreal fable]

yeah sorry 460s

[whole meteor]

to cheek them

[eager pumice]

Power of 8.9 concealment

[boreal fable]

your ass turret on your cherbourg?

[whole meteor]

ok but mbrb

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

might as well be a second set of turrets

[lone delta]

I mean I really know a rule of 3 calibers from World of tanks. But how it works on warships

[obtuse bridge]

Its hard to see Yamato dominating in 2026 randoms. Most times they just get farmed down and die not doing anything

[eager pumice]

14.3

Overmatch is 14.3

[lucid wagon]

anyone who be pretending the Belfast and Belfast 43 gonna suffer heavily from the cruiser heals

is kinda dumb

[lone delta]

For 305 mm?

[eager pumice]

So 25mm bow in stops 356mm
27mm stops 381 etc.

[lucid wagon]

the most over-the-top gimmicked ships will suffer with ONE less gimmick

[lone delta]

Or it a x to caliber

[obtuse bridge]

For every caliber

Its caliber divided by 14.3

[lone delta]

It a multiplier what can be penetrated by that caliber. Ok got it

[boreal fable]

wow the fact I knew it was 14 without checking is lethal

[eager pumice]

305mm ovms up to 21 I think (305/14.3)

In game practical threshold is 19 since many ships have 19 or 16mm ends

This is most midtier cruisers and some high tier light cruisers

[boreal fable]

I might be cooked bruh

[whole meteor]

no

always penetration

regardless of angle

[boreal fable]

of wait 305s is 21 smh

whut

[rustic hearth]

yes

305 overmatch is 21

[boreal fable]

smh

[lucid wagon]

Overmatch is essential for the g ame but they should nerf its damage ngl

[rustic hearth]

457 overmatches 31

[lucid wagon]

because if you cant overmatch a des moines youre kinda cooked

[obtuse bridge]

Wrong. You can still get overpens or no

[boreal fable]

yippers

[lone delta]

So can I penetrate 25 mm in next tier with 330 mm guns on Brest?

[whole meteor]

ok but that implies that it penetrated into the hull

[rustic hearth]

460s overmatch 32

[rustic hearth]

not enough to overmatch 32mm bow

[boreal fable]

I went from rank 3 to 5 because of shitty teams

[whole meteor]

into the first place

[tawdry turret]

I keep forgetting im in bounty lmao

[lucid wagon]

it shot deep

deep cheek

[boreal fable]

orh may gawrd

[lucid wagon]

like you said

[whole meteor]

REAL

[lone delta]

Can't

[obtuse bridge]

32mm overmatch is overrated imo

[whole meteor]

me when i show 1 degree of angle too much to USN pen angles

[obtuse bridge]

30mm is way more important

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[lone delta]

It is a 23 mm only

[lucid wagon]

genuinely tho

[whole meteor]

i had this moment actually

[boreal fable]

Average individual greeding the cruiser instead of actually contributing to the game

[lucid wagon]

I was fighting a Des Moines one time in Colbert which actually cant overmatch Colbert

[whole meteor]

remember the TX brawls with modifiers

[lucid wagon]

then i got a little too confident

ye

[whole meteor]

i was in a salem 1v1

i was 10k hp he was full

cuz he was afk

then he came alive

so this mf rounded the corner on me

and um

[eager pumice]

330/14.3 is like 23

So your practical threshold is again stuff with 19/16mm ends

[whole meteor]

he got away to like 20k hp

[eager pumice]

Other stuff can angle to you

[whole meteor]

but then i did some mind control on him

[obtuse bridge]

If only. Average BB player has 32mm overmatch and thinks he can easily damage stuff like Petropavlovsk so they keep shooting at it while it sits nose in

[whole meteor]

to find his cheek

and

[lone delta]

But how do Dunkerque have the same 330 mm guns and penetrate a deck /structures of Amagi Somehow

[whole meteor]

i basically faked my throttle

[lucid wagon]

me when im in a bungo and instead of firing AP (which will do massive damage anyway) I shoot HE w/ spotter (which does massive damage anyways. This is a completely fair interaction.

[whole meteor]

and forced him to overturn by 1 degree

[boreal fable]

A good bb player with 406s could nuke a bow in petro

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[obtuse bridge]

Depends on the range tbf

[eager pumice]

Because they aren't overmatching hull

You're shooting the flat parts of his upper casemate or superstructure

[lucid wagon]

mind control bro 😭

[obtuse bridge]

Like 12 and above it starts being too rng

[lucid wagon]

reaching out through the force to make him do thy bidding

[whole meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1491235450327924826/shinano_azur_lane.gif

[boreal fable]

Alright buff bbs again, give it like 572mm guns to overmatch 40mm and nuke petro through the icebreakers

[whole meteor]

yea cuz you know

[boreal fable]

New bb idea confirmed

[whole meteor]

the shoot turret thing

so if you reverse angled you can throw off their lead a bit

[lucid wagon]

yea

[obtuse bridge]

800mm Schwerer Gustav guns on a BB when?

[whole meteor]

so yea he kinda made a mistake

and

[lucid wagon]

can this game add 406m/100s that shoot at like 3,000m velocity

[boreal fable]

Wargaming would put in in a submarine like surcouf 2.0 bro

[obtuse bridge]

True

[lone delta]

The are no exist guns with that caliber. The largest caliber in a game is 510. Is likely on Shikishima and Super Yamato

[boreal fable]

slava moment

[lucid wagon]

Surcouf is an actual thing

[boreal fable]

I know

[lucid wagon]

and honestly British made a more cool one

called like X1 or some shit

honestly shouldve made X1 a tier 8 apart of Surcouf

two subs with guns

except one was inf shittier and the other one disappear

[lone delta]

Guys we will have a Subs with gameplay focus on a guns

It is coming to the game

Italiano parmesano Submarines

But they don't have 203 mm as Surcourf

[lucid wagon]

still gonna be horrible subs

the humble sub vs literally any ship with SAP

[lone delta]

Even with instructions the same as on Archerfish?

They have exhaust smoke, reload main guns consumable and heal with buffed amount

[lucid wagon]

a submarine line focused on being on the surface with guns and a smoke is kind of dumb no matter how you put it

because submarines are just really vulnerable to blowing the fuck up

[lone delta]

Just play it as DD counterpart

It also have low HP pool

[lucid wagon]

except DDs dont take nearly as much damage as subs unless you get into the worst of the worst situations

[obtuse bridge]

Slava is funny. I once chased one with Vermont out of all things... Idk how did guy allow me to get that close to him

[lucid wagon]

like unless you decide to brawl a fuckin moskva in gearing or something

[lone delta]

He slow as a rock. I mean he barely doing 23 knots

[obtuse bridge]

Or was I Bungo. Can't remember

[lone delta]

If bungo than it is a discussion, coz bungo are pretty fast for a BB 32 knots

[lucid wagon]

its time for me to test C. Colombo

i cant imagine anything actually changed

[obtuse bridge]

Did it got nerf yet?

[lucid wagon]

omg instead of me doing 25k to a fully angled ship i now only do 20k

massive nerf

[tawdry turret]

yes

[lucid wagon]

yea

[tawdry turret]

the gun is driving me insane rn

[lone delta]

They gave them a range but less accuracy

[obtuse bridge]

Its like Kreml now where accuracy is worse as the range increases or no

[tawdry turret]

yes

[boreal fable]

Okay so whoever has more bismarck 41`s just lose

[lucid wagon]

i mean the thing is

[tawdry turret]

the same gun mechanic as krem

[boreal fable]

This is great

[lucid wagon]

just changing to russian dispersion does nothing

[tawdry turret]

at 15+ the gun wouldn't hit a stationary target

[boreal fable]

turbo bum players with money

[tawdry turret]

please help

[boreal fable]

guh

[lone delta]

Or model of flying I mean dispersion formula

[lucid wagon]

Kremlin or C. Colombo?

[tawdry turret]

cc

[lucid wagon]

are you sure

[lone delta]

Kremlin coz it have op armor

[tawdry turret]

plz elp imma diee rn

[obtuse bridge]

I guess we need Bismarck 45 then. Wait a sec? Oops...

[lucid wagon]

its time to victimize

[tawdry turret]

for some reason i just had one

[eager pumice]

Poor stationary bot 💔

[lucid wagon]

MASSIVE NERF 😭

[lucid wagon]

yeah but i know how to actually name

aim

and its SAP

[obtuse bridge]

Do it at 16km now

[lucid wagon]

ok

i like how i have even more consistently oppressive guns

in C. Colombo

at the range i usually play at

which is 13-14

[boreal fable]

They're genuine so buns

Get me out of bronze already bro

[lone delta]

Oops. That was damn right. Bismark was sunk at 41' at Atlantic. But he can't even survive to 45'. Some info said that some how a artist played his death and retreat to Argentina in Submarine. One formula of medicine caused him to die at the age of 100

[mint bluff]

It always is. Most ass players who spend 100k plus per update 😂

[lament birch]

I love ranked teams of pain and despair

[lucid wagon]

wuh

[boreal fable]

who decided it was a good idea to give m,ains a 20mm citadel guh

[eager pumice]

Or is it that ManSec BB is bait

(Bait to close in too much / bait to over-spam secondaries and thus lose effective main bat DPM)

On top of Asia's already aggravated midrush tendencies

[lucid wagon]

why did i just randomly receive 10 supercontainers

wuh??

i am confused

[silent forge]

Could be your anniversary

[lone delta]

It the same for Michael Jackson. Some people believe that he is alive, some think he is dead

[boreal fable]

My asia doesnt midrush fams

[obtuse bridge]

They could write a hypothetical where Germany wins the war, Bismarck somehow survives and then they modernize it. WG loves hypotheticals

[boreal fable]

They all go have an orgy next to the cv in A line

consistently

[mint bluff]

AVG penis kanzler gamer lmfao

[tawdry turret]

clan buying

prolly

[mint bluff]

Yep most cowardly sob server grow a pair

[lone delta]

About artist death, on sub in Argentina it is a conspiracy

[boreal fable]

Okay soi if you overmatch 25 you instantly cit mainz for free... great

[eager pumice]

Not Minotaur?!

[mint bluff]

I've seen a ipralaug turn around and kite at game start and never fire his secoary once the whole game 😂

[obtuse bridge]

Never happened yeah

[silent forge]

Just the perks of a cruiser, it is just unlucky

[tawdry turret]

nvm forget what i said

[lone delta]

Some docs said it, just not long ago. But we can full trust them

[gusty merlin]

Hello, new Discord member here, Been playing World of Warships since 2020.

[boreal fable]

Nah it's not unlucky, 25mm belt then behind that a 21mm cit... and overmatch normalises shell angle so if you happen to scrape the belt of 25mm you instantly cit the 21mm part as well

[obtuse bridge]

They are full of shit. Artist's teeth have been recovered and they tested it and confirmed its a 100% match

[lucid wagon]

more loot slop for my alt

[boreal fable]

hey

[lone delta]

The same for Michael Jackson, some thinks he is alive and they got photo of him after changing through years and plastic surgery

[obtuse bridge]

[tawdry turret]

so i should also get 10 sc too?

or is it the first game reward

[lone delta]

Yeah, about him also. He is probably living in Israel

[lucid wagon]

anniversary

[tawdry turret]

yea

[silent forge]

I don’t think overmatch normalises shell angle, the 21mm is just also overmatch, but like to still achieve that pen its a small target, and RNG

[lone delta]

It is just conspiracy not a true confirmed fact

[gusty merlin]

This new update is.. odd

[jagged patio]

Kutuzov is so much more fun now that I have heals

[digital locust]

Damn, kutu got heals too?

[jagged patio]

Yeah

[gusty merlin]

Is Scharnhorst '43 a good ship?

[lone delta]

Yeah Soviet and Japanese cruisers sucked before they got a heal

[jagged patio]

only Belfast '43, Bayard, and Belfast didn't

Kutuzov and the rest of cruisers did

[silent forge]

As an update, there is normalisation but it’s a base normalisation

[jagged patio]

Yes

[lone delta]

Why you asking

[gusty merlin]

Since i've been using it for operations and to grind for Bismarck

[digital locust]

Not as good as original wurst

[lone delta]

If you are familiar with German tech tree, then it is a right choice. Good Secondaries. Faster reload torpedoes than 41' engine boost, but lower reload

[gusty merlin]

Yes I am more or less familiar with the German Tech Tree. And I got this at a discount

[jagged patio]

Just curious, how much do Superships usually lose per battle?

Was thinking of getting my 1st one (Satsuma) so just wondering how much bankruptcy I should be prepared for

[digital locust]

200k if youre decent

Witg boosters it's like tier 10 used to be. Nothing dramatic

[boreal fable]

One in one million situation: a good team

[lucid wagon]

LOL

[lone delta]

I mean multiplier of farm is not earning much money to just cover cost of repair of ship

[lucid wagon]

bro kowa

[lone delta]

You will always lose money

[tawdry turret]

forget what i said about the accuracy

[lone delta]

I guess only Super CVs can farm at this time

[tawdry turret]

i have skill issue

[jagged patio]

oh that's way better than I thought

[boreal fable]

Okay but of all of them to get... a satsuma cmon bro

[jagged patio]

Yamato is my only tier 10 that leads to a Superbote since Affondatore isn't released yet

[digital locust]

Grow a pair and get edgar

[jagged patio]

[boreal fable]

Get montana, trust me maine is so much better than satsuma the funny isnt even funnying

[boreal fable]

edgar is just worse than leg mod minotaur

[jagged patio]

I should probably mention that I only play PvE

[boreal fable]

Why get a supership then

[lone delta]

Coz they can really make difference for the victory a deal massive amount of damage

[lucid wagon]

so theoretically my guns should be really bad at this range right

[silent forge]

How does Edgar and legmod Minotaur even compare

The legmod on mino just changes it so differently

[eager pumice]

Superships for PVE are uhh

A good way to lose and lose money

[boreal fable]

is colombo?

[jagged patio]

I got Yamamoto and already got Joakim Brodén on Yamato so was thinking to put legendary commander on a super

[eager pumice]

(They aren't even really worth playing in Randoms)

[lucid wagon]

didnt do at least 20k

this game is BAD.

[lone delta]

A faiiiiiliure.

[boreal fable]

oh yamamoto is the most bum legendary commander

[lone delta]

Are you dumbbbbb

[boreal fable]

Lowkey all it does is give you an extra consumable... in randoms and ranked only

only IF you get the first kill

[lament birch]

mmmmmmmmmmmm

[lone delta]

Same for Kusnetsov

[lament birch]

Lovely full -1 ah ranked teammates

[jagged patio]

I tryhard in World of Tanks, WoWS is my chill game so Ops, Asymms, and sometimes Co-Op is that

Randoms being all just camp and sling HE from map border pissed me off so I just stopped playing it

[eager pumice]

Actually wait
The fun thing about superships in Randoms is that the enemy supership player is almost always dumb

Apart from that not worth playing unless you want to lose money constantly

[lament birch]

World of animal testing

[lucid wagon]

so uhm

wheres C. Colombo nerf

i just tested to maximum range and i devstrike a full health des moines bot

hmm yes very massive nerf

[lone delta]

The same as Valpa

[lucid wagon]

like sure it isnt the most accurate results since people have SOME hands

but still

[light harbor]

He likes me

[lone delta]

Try to show but didn't do

[eager pumice]

Is it like gaining the trust of a stray cat

[boreal fable]

Kutneztov is infinitely better than yamamoto

the heal buff you can get almost every game

[lone delta]

Only for heal

[light harbor]

Well I disconnected afterward so I don't know

[lucid wagon]

im so confused on how this was anywhere near a nerf

[eager pumice]

🥹

[silent forge]

Just get a Kraken every game

[undone mesa]

why is bro in a halland

[boreal fable]

Makes you immune to subs bro its funny

[boreal fable]

the problem is by the time you get a kraken... your game is done and you don't get to enjoy your improved reload

[lone delta]

True, but only at 10 % plank

[gusty merlin]

I really got Admiral Yamamoto in the quiz.

[boreal fable]

It's also permanent dcp

[light harbor]

There is always one DC for me

[boreal fable]

well "permanent"

[boreal fable]

Direct Current???

[lone delta]

I got Lutjens

[silent forge]

Get the first five kills of your game early as possible

[light harbor]

Disconnection

[silent forge]

But no, the older commanders are just outdated

[gusty merlin]

Dang I wanted Lutjens

[boreal fable]

Yeah bro Alternative current is better. But if you combine the two you get really great music

[silent forge]

You get shit like Helfrich where you can proc the skills every game

And then you get the older ones where it takes ages

[boreal fable]

Almost every german ship can prock the skills every game

[lone delta]

*Crew can rely on you. You share same tactics statements and feel of the duty and follow commands

[tall geyser]

italian bbs mog everything

[lone delta]

But you are not pretty versatile due different situations

[boreal fable]

Colombo's worst enemy is GK bro

Imagine getting griefed by a GK

[tall geyser]

im on the T7 for fun

[boreal fable]

Ah

[silent forge]

Yeah, lutjens is good too

[boreal fable]

Well nvm at that tiuer it truly does mog

[lone delta]

Are colombos AP can't penetrate GK/Prus

[tall geyser]

colombo also mogs but in my opinion it isnt true italian bb

[boreal fable]

Colombo sap can't pen anything on GK other than the SS and little sliver or bow

[river dune]

huh? it really isn't, GK has big superstructure, you just farm him for 30k every salvo with SAP

[lone delta]

So why fire SAP

[tall geyser]

this is true italian bb..

[lucid wagon]

yo literally nothing has changed

about colombo

i have not gotten under 15k on a salvo even upto 19.9km

the maximum

😭

[tall geyser]

yikes

[lucid wagon]

im like playing on randoms to where people have hands

and the hands arent saving anyone

[lone delta]

Get a M. Collona then. Its a sistership to caraciolo and have a feature of long range SAP shells secondaries. And also exhaust smokes

[tall geyser]

yes

[silent forge]

Cause you can casually pick one up

[tall geyser]

too poor tho

[lucid wagon]

itll probably return soon

M. Colonna isnt really anything special

its just another BB with solid guns and SAP secondaries that are bait

[lone delta]

Or if you want to play rush gameplay with Italy, buy Napoli for Coal. Same SAP shells and good secondaries

Pretty decent armor

For a cruiser

[silent forge]

True, only uncommon, but could be awhile before the return it

[boreal fable]

My flandre is busy losing a 1v1 to a charles martel at 7km... I love my teammates man

[lone delta]

You made me laugh

[lucid wagon]

how is this even possible

[tall geyser]

i know napoli is good

but what about regolo

[boreal fable]

Okay then a cossack walked up to 4km to me and smoked in my face and started farmin g me....

I'm in a mainz btw

Do players not have TAb on their keyboard

What am i playing bro

[tall geyser]

regolo 🤤

[lament birch]

Ah and my ranked team losses a 5 v 2

lmfao

[tall geyser]

what were the 2 enemy ships?

<@&669133917705601054>

[lone delta]

You know. I got annihilated every game by CVs while playing Cherbourg. I just get to the op spot to shot Citadels and my team Stuck on one flang/playing like a bunch of Sheep stucked on the middle/back of the map

[lucid wagon]

Literally hiw

[lone delta]

Even Cv is on battle, it doesn't cover me with fighters

[lament birch]

Atago perma spoted by a DD and a grau vs 3 bbs at like 12km

[tall geyser]

and they won?

[boreal fable]

Ah I can't stand ranked bro what the hell

[lucid wagon]

3 bbs couldnt kill a single Grau?

[lament birch]

No they lost to the cruisers point blank lmfao

[lucid wagon]

I love bb players

[lofty gorge]

Welp, I got a random question. I'm grinding up all the TTs, so far these are all I got left for Tier 7.
What ship should I do next?

[tall geyser]

I love BB

[tall geyser]

ITALY

[lone delta]

I just so a smack to punch for Cvs

[tall geyser]

F CARRACOIO

[lone delta]

Literally BBs inspired

[lofty gorge]

already done

Hints why I posted that picture, Those are the ships I have left.

[tall geyser]

was it fun

[lofty gorge]

I liked it

[boreal fable]

Ah cool we lost the game where I basically dev'd the cossack

[honest silo]

You should have kept previous ships with all honesty.

And good morning guys.

[tall geyser]

very good line

[boreal fable]

Couldn't be because a certain flandre player just turbo sold the entire game or anything

[lone delta]

Hehehehe

[lofty gorge]

Don't have the ports slots, nor the credits unluckily

[boreal fable]

Wonder why's he's bottom that's so weiiiiiiird

[lofty gorge]

Otherwise I would have kept them

[lone delta]

What tier you have currently playing, I can join you on 8 tier or 6 tier sub

[honest silo]

I see.

[boreal fable]

I'm playing tier 8 ranked

[lone delta]

Hello Andrea

[boreal fable]

And there's no cross-play between regions btw

[lone delta]

How was your sleep

[lone delta]

Yeah?

Damn

[tawdry turret]

Yeo I have skill issue in the cc

I've been aiming too low

[boreal fable]

povorny vs orkan... is this a fair fight

[honest silo]

Hey _Kowatari.

[boreal fable]

Oh wait povorny is gonna shit on me isnt he

railguins and I dont pen him

spectacular

[tall geyser]

bonjourno

https://klipy.com/gifs/b65hbyha-roman-salute-hahaha--k01KS73YR8S3MGT4SJJGTG65HG7

[lone delta]

Ryzen you ve made my day with bit of humor

[tawdry turret]

Ciaoooo

[tall geyser]

thanks germany for RUINING this salute

i fockin hate that stupid bloke

[lament birch]

Mmm yeah and another team of lost to air ranked lmfao

[lucid wagon]

Breh

Kowa you cannot be doing this

[boreal fable]

here we see my average ranked teammate being dead sub 1 minute into the match

[tall geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/american-psycho-patrick-bateman-american-psycho-gif-7212093

[lucid wagon]

The struggle to rank out

[tall geyser]

Love it! 😂

[lucid wagon]

I think I played 3 Bridgeport games got angry and just started spamming Lenin and Turget Reis

[lament birch]

I love participation award ranked

[lucid wagon]

We love ranked

[lament birch]

dumbest ranked system on the planet

[lucid wagon]

Nuh uh

[river dune]

I wouldnt say it's really been a struggle so far

[lucid wagon]

It takes its own set of skill to spam enough games to win

[lucid wagon]

I consider it a struggle when I have to carry every single game without an ounce of fun

All for some dubs and steel lmao

[shell spruce]

hey, can someone pls explain to me why it is impossible to get victories in random to increase my 39-40% wr to higher...? i just don't understand it anymore

[lucid wagon]

Because you’re bad at the game respectfully

Like really bad

Like you needa learn bad

[boreal fable]

Hey Iw as about to beat that povorny in a 1v1 until his teammates decided to help him and I realised mine didnt

[lone delta]

Yeah my sweet little Fluttershy

[shell spruce]

what a shame because i do 50K-100K damage with my ARP Haruna each time i play

[lone delta]

Respect

[boreal fable]

oh my GAAAAARWRASD I love ranked my teammates are unicum high skilled players with excellent game sense

[boreal fable]

Shame on you

[lucid wagon]

Doesnt really mean much if you can’t convert this into a win. Perhaps you might just be damage farming.

[river dune]

no thank you, i'm married

[lone delta]

I mean just avatar

[lucid wagon]

Being married?? In this economy??

[boreal fable]

Cvs should not be allowed in ranked at all, it just has way too much game impact

[eager pumice]

If your long term WR is bad you need to think about how WR works

Someone who plays a ship with 40k HP needs to pull their weight (AKA do 40k or more)

If they just die they essentially donate a free ship to the enemy team and make every match they are in an 11v12

Meanwhile a good player can pull the tactical or damage weight of 2-3 teammates and so have a higher overall chance of winning

If your battle count is low (e.g. 200 or so) then it may be bad luck

[shell spruce]

not at all since i try to cap as well so i just don't understand it :/

[boreal fable]

If your cv is better than the enemy cv you jsut turbo win it doesn't even matter

[eager pumice]

Do you often rush caps, and die early before doing any damage

[tall geyser]

i got the T7 italian DD

[shell spruce]

nope. i shoot, do damage while moving to cap slowly

[lucid wagon]

Capping early game really doesn’t matter. Your death swings the points far more then if you cap. So if you’re in cap early and you die there, you’re actively sabotaging the team

[lone delta]

I guess you should spam Zeppy and Pobeda they are op

[lucid wagon]

Ofc Mid-late game it does matter

[eager pumice]

Your game theory sounds kind of flawed

Do you do more damage than you take

[boreal fable]

What part of zeppy is op

[lone delta]

Secondaries

[lucid wagon]

BEST SECONDARY DPM IN TYE GAME!!!!!!

[boreal fable]

Okay but it's a cv

[shell spruce]

most of the time, yes

[lone delta]

However we have full tech tree all the same

[honest silo]

Hey SymboliRudolf.

[lone delta]

Fight damn dds

[lucid wagon]

Hello

[eager pumice]

Can I look at your stats and try to evaluate your situation

[boreal fable]

if zeppy had an semblance of armour it would be the funniest boat ever

[honest silo]

Hey InterconKW.

[lone delta]

A bit of rushing or sneaking in the islands are also good

[shell spruce]

i can show it after my match

[eager pumice]

No, I can see it right now
I just want your permission

[boreal fable]

If they gave zeppy planes a smoke it would be the funnest cv to exist

[lone delta]

True, btw you have parserval. A bit of armor indeed

[boreal fable]

parseval ahs no armour brah what

[shell spruce]

well you have my permission

[lone delta]

I guess they should change A bit Zeppy. Give him ap rockets as tech tree, and rework collision of bombers, it should be from bows going

And give armor I guess

[honest silo]

Like Aquila the Italian Aircraft Carrier.

[torn dome]

do not the boat

[honest silo]

If is a converted ship from a Ocean Liner not really as it's still a hull of a passenger ship.

Like Aquila for example.

[boreal fable]

zeppy with lutjens is jsut stupid cuz u can legit heal yourself by spotting... bruh

[eager pumice]

Ok
I took a quick look

You mostly play battleships

You only have 1.5k games so you're not super new but you're fairly new, so your bad performance is not irredeemable or anything

I see 2 big obvious issues: you survive less than 20% of your battles (aka in 4/5 matches you play you die) and do very little damage (your most played ship is T6 New Mexico with only 13k average damage when you need about 55k to pull your weight, your Iowa is only at 49k average damage when you need about 80k to pull your weight)

In other words you're just not doing enough, so any enemy team you are against is essentially up one ship by default

I do want to know if you are familiar with game mechanics (e.g. aiming, AP, overmatch and angling)

[rustic hearth]

any german cv with lutjens is crazy

[honest silo]

Hey Swifacid.

[rustic hearth]

hi

[lone delta]

Im laughing hard

[whole meteor]

the heal is so tiny

[river dune]

that doesn't really matter when zeppelin doesnt have armour and SAP exists lol

[lone delta]

Haven't such a mood for a few days

[rustic hearth]

yeah pretty much

[river dune]

zeppelin gets HE farmed, it gets SAP farmed, it's slow, spotted from the moon, 9.5km auto secondaries now

[honest silo]

Hey AFKaveman.

[river dune]

hi

[rustic hearth]

why would anyone play zeppy in ranoms

[tawdry turret]

Andrea

[rustic hearth]

its a meme bote

just go play MVR or immelmann

and parseval

[shell spruce]

yea i am but those stats were also when i got my own account. now i am trying to improve it since i play it long enough on co-op and operations to understand the mechanics but then i get either trash teams or i get mass focused in a instant while i don't rush in like an idiot

[lone delta]

It is op only in 1/1 brawls I guess

[boreal fable]

in random battles, with 12 people you can realistically spot... that's 4 heals total around half your boat

[honest silo]

When I turn on my Laptop I will post the render of the two Battle I did with Helena Yesterday.

[river dune]

the heal is based off of spotted ribbons, no? it's more than 4. a target is considered "dark" when it's unspotted for 30 seconds iirc

that still doesnt help zeppelin lol

[eager pumice]

Please do not default to blaming your teammates when your own damage is sometimes less than 30% of what it should be

You need to fix your own gameplay and game sense first

From what you have told me (slowly sailing towards caps) you don't 100% know your duty in a match

I can try help with that, though

[boreal fable]

yeah? 3 spotting ribbons for 1 heal, 12/3 = 4?

[boreal fable]

My teammates are turbo ass tho 😭

[honest silo]

If not wrong both Max Immelmann and Manfred von Richthofen are converted H-Class Battleship?

[river dune]

no, because there's no limit to how many times it can proc afaik

[shell spruce]

well i try to play according on how the ship should be played but it isn't always easy though tbh...

[boreal fable]

Yeah 4 at a time... obviously

[river dune]

"obviously" dont change the goalpost man

[boreal fable]

???

[eager pumice]

Bad teammates equal out with enough matches

If your own performance is a negative drag on every team, that is what tips your long term WR (as good players essentially aggregate WR away from you)

[lone delta]

If you need top guides to listen for every game tech tree except new Premium ships, then here I am. You can DM me and ask on any feature of any suggested ship you want

[eager pumice]

What is your understanding of how your ship should be played

[lone delta]

Just coz im bored

[boreal fable]

Nah they don't equal out at all, around 75% of teams are ass and around 25% are good

[river dune]

what's confusing? you said " that's 4 heals total"

[honest silo]

For what ship?

[boreal fable]

Yeah?

[river dune]

lutjens commander skill that heals

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[lone delta]

I love to teach newbies

[eager pumice]

If you play with a pool of 10000 players in random MM eventually all of them will equally represent on both your team and the enemy

The only constant past 100 or so games is you

You can have bad streaks and good streaks but what matters is your overall long term and consistency

[honest silo]

Tbh guys.

I like now that cruiser have got heals, like Dallas, Helena and so on.

[lone delta]

I have 52% wr over 500+ battles in new account even im an old player

It is pretty decent but it is ok

[tall geyser]

why are the italian dds the perfect dds for me

[river dune]

i dont even play ark because i own lowenhardt

tragic

[shell spruce]

well for Missouri as Iowa for example... i know from experience that they are better at long-mid range so i try to do that but then i get mostly enemies who evade my shots each time i fire... i also never show my broadside because i know that the Iowa-class in general can be easily citadel hit on the side (had it too many times in the past already) so i sail slightly angled and at 1/4-2/4 of my speed and only go full speed when i see that it is possible

[tall geyser]

tuff

[muted eagle]

No, being eaten alive by fires, Flooding and Devstruck is more cool.

[honest silo]

Nah, I prefer stay alive and help my team while sinking some enemy ships.

And hey Armordrive.

[muted eagle]

Now you have to buy it.

[eager pumice]

Your positioning sense sounds very basic

Like you understand how to shoot and angle and not get too close

But you don't understand where you should set up and reposition

Iowa is a fairly mobile BB but you're not using that speed so you don't react in time and get overrun/crossfired and killed, right

[river dune]

buy what? i own ark

[muted eagle]

Hi. Cruisers purpose is being food for BB.

[honest silo]

If not wrong base Speed of stock Iowa is 27 Knots?

[muted eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/psyduck-psyduck-sleep-napping-pokemon-sleeping-psyduck-gif-15568846810302620355

[boreal fable]

This is not incorporating the fact that each of those 10000 players may have a ship they get good game impact in and the rest which they suck in, then also some will maybe play 20 battles where they are insanely good on teh red team, then delete the game

[muted eagle]

My bad, now you have to play it. @river dune

[honest silo]

Ok, but not if you want to improve in game.

[boreal fable]

Unfortunately this is impossible to realistically calculate

[shell spruce]

well reason is that i don't know what to do with a fast BB that has only decent armor since i mostly play with AL Bismarck :/

[muted eagle]

Game is somewhat improving?

[boreal fable]

I get on average about 80k dmg a game and at least 1 kill. yet my WR is much lower than people who spoit less, do less damage and get less kills

[honest silo]

No, I mean like me as player.

[muted eagle]

W-Button is all what you need.

[eager pumice]

It still evens out

[lone delta]

I got about 80-100 k on Cherbourg per battle. In fact my wr on this ship is 35% coz I don't get fackin AA cover

[honest silo]

Not really.

[muted eagle]

Jokes, i know.

[boreal fable]

Evidently not

[eager pumice]

My WR is 57%, recent over 60%, I play almost exclusively solo in anything I feel like as a casual

I don't think you understand what your impact in a match should be

[boreal fable]

My last 3 games I've done 160k dmg, 106k dmg and 79k dmg

[shell spruce]

i only play solo cuz my clan mates prefer operations and assymetric battles while i play ranked and random more recently 🥲

[boreal fable]

With each of them I either 1v1 a dd and kill them or radar a dd and kill them etc

[honest silo]

Nice.

[lone delta]

How you do that. I barely struggle get much as possible for a win, not to donate full ship at the start, changing over positions, and I'm crying every time when allies acting dumb. I need solo kill DD, then push cap and kill next target a cruiser, who's defending cap, then rush again and kill BBs all by myself

[lone delta]

Uh. Unlucky

[honest silo]

I honestly like a lot HMS Rodney and her torpedo also.

[lone delta]

I want to play ally covering ships but I can't coz no div

[eager pumice]

I'll try give you some gameplay theory

Your job as a BB is to first and foremost deny the enemy opportunity

You want to go out to strategic positions where you can crossfire places where enemies want to go (e.g. in or around caps) without putting yourself at excessive risk

Only be as close as you need to be to be effective (this will take time and experience to learn) - a simplified guideline at high tier tends to be above 12-15km, in line with your teammates so you can still go dark if you have to and don't look like an appealing isolated target too far forward compared to them

You can push when the time calls for it and this does win games when the right situation arises, but you only should do it if you can confidently run over the enemies in a given place, which also takes experience to determine

[boreal fable]

Yk I need an ally to smoke me up and spot for my castilla so I can 1 tap the dd

So funsies

[lone delta]

I want to play Gdansk/San Martin, but unfortunately we can because of server

[eager pumice]

Because WoWs is won by positioning and game sense over mechanical skill

If you kill a suicide rushing enemy early on and can press momentum onto that flank you can essentially always win your flank

Sometimes that doesn't work out but you can still patiently prolong a losing game and waste enemy time and HP

Many players are just free food

[boreal fable]

Sucks hey

[honest silo]

Castilla Is a light Cruiser right?

[lone delta]

Heavy

Spain

[honest silo]

Oh, ok.

I honestly don't like Pan American ships.

[sweet latch]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/669133945375555584/995521921120731206/SPOILER_899DF655-0CF2-4542-A920-589D5C07BF44.gif

[wind pasture]

I hope nobody gets too offended by this but solo WR is completely and utterly meaningless

[lucid wagon]

What

[honest silo]

Hey CastorTolagi.

[lucid wagon]

That just blatantly isn’t true 😭😭😭

[wind pasture]

Try your best not to get too focused on it

[lament birch]

[lucid wagon]

I want to hear your reasoning

[sweet latch]

Solo WR is the only relevant metric

[wind pasture]

The stats you wanna focus on are frags (especially on destroyers and cruisers) and damage (on high tier cruisers and battleships)

Win rate comes second or third to those over even spotting

[sick cargo]

base xp is the only relevant metric

[livid bridge]

Is this pasta

[honest silo]

Hey celerio.

[sick cargo]

just use bxp

[lone delta]

I use hydro equipped to spot torpedoes for allie BBs. I stand I bit further than a team and I sneaking behind islands, and try to kill DDs. I spot and cover fire my DDs even I'm a large cruiser. I try to find my DDs possible bullies to kill them up first before they used radar/hydro

[honest silo]

Hey Nayterii.

[sick cargo]

hi andrea

[livid bridge]

Hello

[wind pasture]

no this is just reality

[lament birch]

This is a full moment

[shell spruce]

i think that i will stay with carrier play then on random... is because i mostly forget to pay attention to some things you mention especially that positioning😅
ik how to play with my carriers better especially with Essex. i support my team with her by popping smoke when needed, dealing damage to priority targets (mostly DD's if possible) and i do spot enemies for my team as well 🙂

[lament birch]

actual moment

[lucid wagon]

I’m so fucking confused right now what?

[edgy marten]

why is there ragebait at this hour

[honest silo]

No idea.

[livid bridge]

Me, using real p2w and getting higher bxp in stats cuz I have prem time

[sweet latch]

Damage is a pointless metric
Exhibit A) the Fucking RN BBs

[lucid wagon]

Damage, frags, come natural to being a better player

How do you measure if someone is good? Their wr

[wind pasture]

Damage is pretty important but it's almost always thrown around as a number in a vacuum

[sick cargo]

prem time doesnt affect bxp what are you cooking

[livid bridge]

Winrate is just a percentile

[honest silo]

I agree.

[livid bridge]

It does on wows numbers

[lucid wagon]

Who throws around damage > winrate

[livid bridge]

So

[lucid wagon]

Wha

[wind pasture]

My argument is pretty much the opposite

You become good by focusing on frags/dmg and through that your WR goes higher

[sick cargo]

that sounds stupid im pretty sure it does not

[lucid wagon]

Yeah I do 300k dmg avg w/ a winrate of 0 over 50 battles = I’m still at the end of the day useless

[sweet latch]

all APIs track XP+potential Premium modifier

[wind pasture]

I don't think you understood what I'm saying

[blazing quest]

Wrong

[lucid wagon]

No I don’t

[edgy marten]

I dunno, farming 100k off one BB is much less impactful than getting 30k off many DDs

[sick cargo]

ok but the modifier does not change the bxp number

[livid bridge]

WR is a percentile

Frfr

[blazing quest]

Damage only matters specifically when you are leaderboarding

[lone delta]

I utilize my mobility to spot possible going through and ruin follow up attack by lack of HP after my shots on cruisers

[sweet latch]

the base XP number is not tracked

[blazing quest]

Otherwise it doesn’t

[wind pasture]

Damage matters plenty for solo

[blazing quest]

Wr still matters more

[sick cargo]

not even the game stats track it?

[wind pasture]

It really doesn't

[lucid wagon]

I don’t think damage matters that much

[eager pumice]

These are all little mechanical things

They're good but to win you need to start thinking about the whole map and denying enemies opportunities or punishing their mistakes

[wind pasture]

It's just a number thrown out as an additional measure of your skill

[lucid wagon]

Like omg I did 50k damage this game (killed all three destroyers) vs I farmed 150k on Valparaiso

Massive difference

[blazing quest]

It’s also used to see how good you are at winning the game

So

[wind pasture]

Actually damaging enemy ships and confirming kills is more meaningful imo

[honest silo]

Yeah.

[eager pumice]

You will only start winning if you actually outperform your counterpart on the enemy and add to your team

This is true for any class IMO

[blazing quest]

Which will translate to wins

But

Doing plays also translate to wins

[edgy marten]

Which implicitly is associated with having a greater WR

[blazing quest]

Damage isn’t absolutely everything

[wind pasture]

We're pretty much saying the same thing except you goobers think that said WR is just accumulated in a vacuum while doing nothing else

[blazing quest]

If you manage to gas the vision of the enemy team you can auto win like 80% of the time

[blazing quest]

Are you in a better clan than me

[boreal fable]

So uhhh, radar dd, nearly kill dd, get dev struck by aki planes

[blazing quest]

Just asking

[boreal fable]

Nice

[shell spruce]

yea true... reason that i will focus on playing carriers more because it suit me more and i found out that i do more with them as well to help my team and myself to win

[sweet latch]

Tiger59
Highest WR for T8 cruiser
Lowest Damage
Lowest Frags

[blazing quest]

Do you have a higher wr than me

[lucid wagon]

they’re in rain

Trust

[blazing quest]

Just asking

[livid bridge]

Hes impregnating him

[wind pasture]

The classic stat check

😔

[blazing quest]

Duh

[eager pumice]

I would advise using stat tracking sites like WoWs numbers if you want to see how much damage people do on average in a ship VS your own (e.g. if you do too little damage you might need to identify why)

But it can become a bit toxic at times for a casual player, so you have to be objective

[blazing quest]

I do not know your ign

Nor have I seen it before

So