game-discussion

[vague cedar]

It's worse than Bungo lol
More like Elbing dispersion 2.65 sigma

[mental sundial]

the friendly 8km torp, 6.2km detect shima spawned them early then promptly died to hindenburg torpedoes

[ancient monolith]

zombie gaming is always so awesome

[vague cedar]

Well ain't that just fun and engaging

[azure marten]

i saw a range mod no conceal shima running the F3s yesterday

[vague cedar]

🥀

[azure marten]

was certainly a sight

[obtuse ferry]

That’s gameplay

[honest silo]

Hey Bazinga.

[azure marten]

lets run le pampa and gamble for aegis or something

damnit

[honest silo]

I missed using the West Virginia.

[vague cedar]

Speaking of the devil-

[azure marten]

time to only do like 40k

[honest silo]

Finally a good battle.

[vague cedar]

Hello there Mr. Baz
HawkTuah1206 here

[bronze flame]

Whats the update today? Had to update the game and it seemed to take a bit

[untold thistle]

that's the predownload

[hidden imp]

Baz what ship do i play today

[bronze flame]

Ughhhhhhhhhh

[lethal pike]

15.4 release tomorrow

[untold thistle]

update releases soon

[honest silo]

Hey SAMIN.

[bronze flame]

I thought i was on the priority que bc of the 180$ ima drop

X3

[honest silo]

Yeah.

Hey grievous.

[hidden imp]

General kenobi

[honest silo]

True.

[left zodiac]

hm, where my timers and ship detection range shower went away? 🤔
oh, righht, and thhe timer in right up corner

hy

*ok, had 1 game forced logout because router did a restart....

[bronze flame]

I heard the british ship is basically what the meta is now for bbs are and its for it to stay in the back of the map bc very bad armor

Prince whales

[lethal pike]

hmm, planning on getting one of the trade in ships, debating between Monmouth, Seal, and Minegumo...

[untold thistle]

that's just UK BBs in general

kiting

[bronze flame]

Still though price whales cool looking ship just for it to be a run away meta

[untold thistle]

it's a KGV uptiered

the funnier thing is that PoW gets worse base range

[drifting marlin]

[untold thistle]

what happened for that to happen

[drifting marlin]

aki behind island, essex out in open

i torched the essex while rushing the aki

[cold geyser]

aki g big money small brain

[untold thistle]

what does it take to be a good player like you, zui

[cold geyser]

god loves all his children

[tame kiln]

except [insert class name]

[honest silo]

Yeah I'm currently having bad luck with battles.

[ancient monolith]

zombie gaming night, I think I'm gonna stop soon, cause I get with people who do nothing

[drifting marlin]

they never expect the khaba to just full speed run into them

[honest silo]

Yeah that's bad.

[cold geyser]

Or... you could go on a generational run https://tenor.com/tuM2odE3oLR.gif

and let the dice fall where they may

[honest silo]

Oh, nice 10 away.

[drifting marlin]

shoutout dastert for saving my tromp winrate from hell

that was a guarnateed loss i literally died and left the match HOW did we win lmfao

[honest silo]

At last I'm learning quite a lot of different things.

[cold geyser]

jesus fucking christ

[untold thistle]

the 6km torps really just makes me see her as a torp-less gunboat, in full honesty

[vague cedar]

[cold geyser]

that cassard has more bxp than my entire team in some of my recent games

[honest silo]

Hey Brandon0sh.

[cold geyser]

welcome back andrea

[steel pier]

ok, why does a Bayard with 10 kills get his natural selection. but i in my DD with 9 kills do not? you need 4 kills of the same class as you, or 8 of other ship classes, so why is there none?

[azure marten]

so if you get like 3 of your class and 5 others, it doesnt count for natural selection for some reason

[shell temple]

what manner of voodoo rituals did this man do to get 4k BXP

[honest silo]

Thanks.

[azure marten]

it either has to be 8 of not of your class or 4 of your class

[void relic]

z52 has my highest bxp game ever to this day

[honest silo]

But yeah I hope at last the things I'm learning are helping me.

[steel pier]

no: i got 9 kills of other types, its bound to count

if it were DDs, it would have been 4 needed

[azure marten]

you sure you didnt get ANY destroyers in those 9?

[drifting marlin]

did those 9 kills include any DDs

[void relic]

solution: kill everything indiscriminately

🙏

[steel pier]

does this make things diff?

[drifting marlin]

i think it needs to be 8+ kills of NON-DDs

[azure marten]

yes

[drifting marlin]

or 4 kills of DDs

[azure marten]

what zui said

[void relic]

https://tenor.com/view/kill-everyone-wheel-i-hate-you-gif-7282616540403564084

[dry osprey]

Where can I buy the Bismarck 41?

[honest silo]

How it went for you guys the day?

[steel pier]

8 kills says: "any" type. so this includes DDs too. any type is all types. also CVs and Subs basically

[magic arrow]

It wont be available until 15.4 in a few days

[drifting marlin]

was looking a little bad but recovered

[honest silo]

Hey Gizmo.

[dry osprey]

It’ll be in the premium shop?

[drifting marlin]

armory, premium shop, and wishing wharf yes

[dry osprey]

Lit

[honest silo]

That's nice.

[steel pier]

if it should exclude DDs, then please, formulate it so. not "any type" cuz this includes DDs too, the way its formulated rn: "8 kills, but you dont need to kill DDs specifically"

[azure marten]

the 8 excludes whatever ship class youre in

if you were in a cruiser you would have to kill 4 cruisers OR 8 other ship types

[steel pier]

its not worded this way "any type" means your own class included too

[azure marten]

that might be a translation issue because its worded that way in english

[steel pier]

"any type" means all ships, its any

[azure marten]

it says any other type

[drifting marlin]

might be a translation issue? we can take a look at it

[azure marten]

for english atleast

[drifting marlin]

the english text is pretty clear yea

[azure marten]

now im curious if any other achievement has translation issues

[steel pier]

any type means for me still any class, so also your own

its indeed pretty simple

[livid bridge]

any type indeed means that

any other type means something else

[unique hemlock]

Either destroy 4 ships [that are destroyers] or destroy 8 ships [that are not destroyers].

[ancient monolith]

I can buy 2 affondatore now. I wonder if she will be released when I can buy 3

[azure marten]

damn i dont have any combat missions to do now that i finished the victory day one from twitch

[drifting marlin]

running out of combat missions is impressive

[void relic]

truly

[steel pier]

then word it more accordingly in ger

[azure marten]

straight up

[drifting marlin]

yea i passed it up to our EU friends to sanity check the translation

[honest silo]

Oh, yeah! I love West Virginia,

[azure marten]

all i got left is the play a battle one for buying AL gorizia, the ranked ones (but i dont play ranked), and the one for the AL massa flag

[honest silo]

One question guys.

Remaining alive until the end of the battle is a good thing already?

[drifting marlin]

mostly, but you also want to be using your HP as a resource to gain map control/damage etc.

[honest silo]

Yeah that's what I'm doing and thanks zuiKatsu.

A part I'm learning quite a lot of different things.

[steel pier]

sounds good. since even in eng, for me it clearly includes all classes even your own, by the use of "any"

[radiant olive]

GG Gizmo

[magic arrow]

GG

[dim bridge]

well well well well well

submarine?

goodbye goodbye goodbye

[radiant olive]

naturally

[magic arrow]

Arden cannot survive out of the water

[dim bridge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/fDO2Nk0ImzvvW

[radiant olive]

blub

[steel pier]

blubb blubb

[radiant olive]

it was rather funny, i aimed a full set at the tromp, he dodged them while double pinged

suddenly 3 random torp hits on the 2501 behind him

[magic arrow]

https://tenor.com/view/fish-pals-pals-fish-gif-18590209

[drifting marlin]

one of my tromp losses the enemy shimakaze got a doublestrike on my 2501 and hayate with the first volley of the game

i knew it was a little doomed after that

[whole meteor]

zhong guo ren mentioned

[radiant olive]

oof

[whole meteor]

🗣️ 🗣️ 🗣️ 🔥 🔥 🔥

[radiant olive]

Gizmo, when you see Snarf, tell him that all this power, can be his. He merely needs to accept it

[dim bridge]

I feel lonely without AndreaArma greeting me here at the door

Jesus christ

[steel pier]

summoning worked

[dim bridge]

RUN FOR THE HILLS

[honest silo]

Also, having higher points Commander and dodging enemy subs and destroyers help right?

Hey Artillerist.

[dim bridge]

Yo

[pastel lintel]

phew that was a close game.. we won but i was left on 105hp yikes

[honest silo]

With what ship?

[pastel lintel]

the yahagi t5

t6 gaeso not bad. first game of today

game*

[drifting marlin]

triangle mafia out in full force today

[honest silo]

Nice.

[whole meteor]

zui we should div

[honest silo]

Also you suggest Colombo zuiKatsu?

Or better Ruggero di Lauria?

[drifting marlin]

colombo better for now

[dim bridge]

I have a policy to ram idiots who get too close to my ship in this game

for once I had that shit backfire

in the funniest way possible

[honest silo]

Just curious why Ruggero di Lauria isn't that good?

[dim bridge]

Its good

anyone who tells you its not is dumb

crazy armor good conceal insane speed almost thunderer accuracy on 457 overmatching SAP

[pastel lintel]

next game... striaght into t10 with my t8

[drifting marlin]

lauria is good

colombo is just better right now

haha

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[dim bridge]

Colombo is for people who like to choke on cucumbers

[honest silo]

I see.

[dim bridge]

nobody likes colombo players

not even their own reflections

BMI of parents phone number

[honest silo]

Understood.

[grim portal]

WE POWERFARM

[honest silo]

Also, I'm just curious zuiKatsu, but what you will get during the trade-in?

Hey TheSpreadsheet.

[grim portal]

hey andrea

[drifting marlin]

no idea

[steel pier]

you have Loyang yet? if so, how is it

[honest silo]

I see.

[drifting marlin]

yea its an acceptable dd

nothing crazy its a good allrounder

[steel pier]

since its an ex american. what torps has it?

[honest silo]

Is Sims still good?

[grim portal]

im 2 containers off the kots collection is the only way to complete it to wait for the next kots

[azure marten]

2 different sets, i can screenshot in a moment

[steel pier]

i pray to kami, there is also normal torps included

[drifting marlin]

loyang predates deepwaters, so yeah she does have normal torps

[honest silo]

Or no?

[steel pier]

[steel pier]

what a relief to hear

[azure marten]

honestly this is my favorite part of loyang

[honest silo]

Nice.

Or Benson is better Sims?

[azure marten]

if im not mistaken sims has a built in base xp modifer?

[steel pier]

our Benson

[azure marten]

or atleast it used to many years ago

[honest silo]

I think so, not sure.

[drifting marlin]

not bad for a 6 dd game ig

[bleak idol]

hello

[honest silo]

Nice!

[honest silo]

Hi.

[open yarrow]

what is up fellow humans

[merry scarab]

So i realized I have three avrora commanders from the different azur lane events. I was wondering what are three good russian lines to put em on? Nevsky for sure but 2 more. Was thinking grozovoi would be fun? i prioritize easy to play, the more brain dead the better

[honest silo]

Doing some asymmetrics for relax after randoms.

[open yarrow]

cool

[dim bridge]

Grozovoi is real nice for the newer players

[drifting marlin]

delny/khaba: go fast shoot enemy ship

[honest silo]

But should I get Sims?

[drifting marlin]

pretty ez

[steel pier]

playing our Benson, having fun suffer

[open yarrow]

I can't recommend the Russian dd's

[merry scarab]

hmm so the DD lines?

ah i c conflicting opinion:(

[open yarrow]

Benson is decent

[drifting marlin]

kremlin is a little feast or famine

[open yarrow]

Everyone has different opinion

[honest silo]

Sims is american.

Not soviet.

[merry scarab]

i suck btw so like if it requires me being aware itll go ehhhhh

[open yarrow]

Was talking about Delny/Khab

[merry scarab]

actually i like open water fighting like gunboating if thats like ye know feasible

[steel pier]

"good in dd counter"
-gets wrecked by a german tier VIII DD-

[whole meteor]

sibir

[honest silo]

Oh, ok my bad sorry CaptainHelix.

[dim bridge]

Grozovoi will be good with a heal good gun performance at long range

[drifting marlin]

openwater gunboating is literally the point of the delny line

[dim bridge]

And pretty alright torpedoes

[steel pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1491568533010780412/1491571405916213288/ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[drifting marlin]

grozo has the smoke to also farm with

[open yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1489431188262223892/black-cat-void-cat-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[merry scarab]

aight to be more precise i like open water gunboating for cruisers i dont ply DDs well at all

[steel pier]

got a new GIF

[dim bridge]

It should be easier on DDs

[honest silo]

Time for Napoli.

[open yarrow]

Wait fr?

[steel pier]

strawberry kitty

[dim bridge]

no citadel means you cant be blown out of the water in a single shot unless you face the italians

[open yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-procedure-cat-donut-cookie-gif-25830675

[merry scarab]

i mean other than shinonome, that thing clicked but other than that nope

[dim bridge]

or really really close range BB with large amount of guns

[steel pier]

maybe, it has smthn to do with me playing Bongo cat all day now

[dim bridge]

Montana in particular comes to mind

[open yarrow]

You know what? I will play Grozoboi

[steel pier]

and strawberry bongo cat is my fav

[honest silo]

Just curious guys.

[dim bridge]

Its new player friendly mostly

[honest silo]

Napoli is a Large Cruiser right?

[dim bridge]

the older players wont find it all that good or interesting

[steel pier]

caliber?

[dim bridge]

lack of DPM

[open yarrow]

I would rather recommend either the US Gearing line or the UK daring line

[open yarrow]

for beginners

[radiant olive]

carried

HARD

[dim bridge]

I would too

But we were talking about the russian lines

so that didnt come up

the UK line is really amazing for beginners

[steel pier]

would still say CA, Drake also has 25,4cm guns and is one

[merry scarab]

i was trying to find homes for all my azur lane commanders and i dont think I got spare US ones? Baltimore is going on the Des moines line, kearsarge go on hybrid CV, montpelier on CL tho I don't play CL so maybe she can captain my DDs idk

[dim bridge]

Grozovoi Nevsky Petro

[honest silo]

I see.

[honest silo]

Nice Battle Arden.

[dim bridge]

if you can somehow throat the idea K-1 is one of the more tolerable and fun submarines in the game

[radiant olive]

i had 3 good ones in a row, 3 times well over 150k

the one defeat i outscored everyone on both teams

[merry scarab]

hey wait theres a second US DD line whats the second one do?

[radiant olive]

SAP gunboats

[dim bridge]

Gunboats with F.Sherman DPM

[radiant olive]

with timed smoke

[dim bridge]

Good DD line but boring to play

[merry scarab]

is it easy to play?

also what about that new german cruiser line i liked the original german cruiser line

[dim bridge]

Its more somewhat experienced player friendly

[merry scarab]

man the game seemed to have changed a lot in my absence lol

ehhhh im too rust and inately too bad of a player then, unfortunate

[dim bridge]

The adalbert line gets manual secondaries but they arent all too crazy I in particular find them gimmicky at best

Smaller worse schlieffen line

but its a cruiser so it makes sense for the scale

[merry scarab]

i c, say outside of zao and hindy, the like only two lines i completed and the US CLs but that was with a bunch of boosters, what are some other fun lines to try. I've been trying to fix my kii winrate but i think its cooked

[honest silo]

Of that line I'm still at Deutschland.

[dim bridge]

Fun lines as in any line or cruisers?

[steel pier]

you could try any cruiser lines soon. cuz the mid tiers now also get heals

[merry scarab]

any line is good, also from these stats anything particular stands out as things im not doing that I should be doing

[steel pier]

maybe italian cruisers

[merry scarab]

indirect nerf to my atago 🙁

[steel pier]

Atago also should get heal

[merry scarab]

tho atago main gimick methinks is her herp derp deck

atago already has heal

[steel pier]

so will Cleveland, Eugen, Hipper, etc.

[merry scarab]

so like its closing the durability gap, she has really low DPM

[steel pier]

well

[merry scarab]

fun guns tho

[steel pier]

any other line still can be enjoyable after this

[dim bridge]

You average damage seems pretty up there for new players, it may just be a lack in knowledge thats holding you back and that just comes with time

[merry scarab]

oh wait rochester getting heals, that might be fun

[steel pier]

Atago is a classic

[merry scarab]

im not new i just play off and on

so like rusty but this account is ancient

[dim bridge]

Ah I see

sorry

[merry scarab]

no no i do present as pretty new cause i ask about new playerish questions

[merry scarab]

its just i play for a bit then leave for a year and basically forget it all

[dim bridge]

as for lines I'd recommend for off and on players any lighthouse build of a cruiser would be way too difficult to hop into

[cold geyser]

the language barrier on asia server can often be quite difficult to overcome xD

[dim bridge]

so that rules out Henri and the Venezia line

[cold geyser]

(Jinan rammed me at start of match)

[radiant olive]

Your average potential damage seems quite low. This combined with the low number of battles you survive leads me to believe you're being too agressive.

What's your general playstyle?

Do you tend to rush in?

[dim bridge]

Minotaur is a good cruiser line to play even if it is a light cruiser

[honest silo]

That's a different camouflage?

[merry scarab]

Venezia looks fun and I did just get the AL gorizia

[merry scarab]

i try to hold at approx 12-14 km and blast things

[honest silo]

What do you think of the Worcester line?

[radiant olive]

and by hold, do you mean nose in?

[merry scarab]

But like thats probs cause i learned BBs wayyy bck before subs and shit and now when I do that i get torped

[radiant olive]

or are you in a kiting position?

[merry scarab]

stern in for kii but ya

[steel pier]

azur lane skin. no camo

[dim bridge]

venezia usually wants to play as a lighthouse to get the best out of it but it can be played with a standard build

[merry scarab]

cause like kii angles are better stern in preferrably

[honest silo]

Oh, ok.

[magic arrow]

Nice

[dim bridge]

Worcester I find to be really cool on paper but unforunately just gets mauled to death in the current meta

[radiant olive]

Alright, and I take it you get focused hard?

[dim bridge]

I actually need to revisit the worcester

[merry scarab]

but like it depends i sometime mess it up and get stuck bow in which is awkward af cause kii dont turn good

[merry scarab]

decently ig?

[honest silo]

I see.

[dim bridge]

I havent put many games into it

I thought the line was fun to play

[honest silo]

I'm currently at Cleveland.

[merry scarab]

mayhaps i should play another round in kii and report back?

[cold geyser]

very nice

[honest silo]

A part I'm still learning and improving in playing it.

[merry scarab]

also my ye old thunderer still good, any recent balance changes made it gooder or worse?

[dim bridge]

I think the reason I dont play worcester may have been a bad experience when I first started playing light cruisers

and I kind of just outgrew the worcester in favor of more risky light cruisers

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[drifting marlin]

thunderer is still great. just dont show broadside the colombo might have expert loader

[steel pier]

still no Atago commander. i hope it returns one day

[honest silo]

Well I'm still learning the positioning, island hugging and surviving while doing good on them Artillerist.

[merry scarab]

ah welp

[merry scarab]

isn't azur lane rerun like right now?

[dim bridge]

yeah that line of cruisers forces that shit into your head

[merry scarab]

tho i dont buy their crates i just farm the free ones XD

and buy the big discount ship

[dim bridge]

Im going to play worcester

I actually want to play it again now

[steel pier]

Atago isnt in crates and also no in the big commander packages

[honest silo]

Good luck.

[merry scarab]

damn wait all my BBs have a similar amount of potential damage as Kii am i tanking wrong?

[honest silo]

Yeah, but I want to learn to be a good cruiser player also.

I mean with Heavy and Large Cruiser also.

[merry scarab]

tho i haven't played this in ages

[dim bridge]

larger cruisers are easier to play than lights so as long as you can learn the worcester line all the others should be way easier

[merry scarab]

mostly cause i haven't played in ages but welp

[honest silo]

Yeah as I honestly want to play again Des Moines and Salem.

[radiant olive]

well, upon closer inspection your potential damage average isn't bad

my own Kii's average is lower 😄

[drifting marlin]

my average potential dmg in t10 BBs ranges from 1.2m-2.0m

[merry scarab]

lol am i too aggressive in Azuma that potential damage seems pretty close to my BBs XD

[merry scarab]

lol

im just too juicy a target

they can't resist 😛

[drifting marlin]

not necessarily, azuma plays often at long range and people just miss more out there

[merry scarab]

man maybe i just need to play lower tier

[radiant olive]

That said, my survival rate is higher with a higher average damage. So i think you could do well with sticking to a bit further range

[merry scarab]

i play her at the range of all my ships 14-18 km

cause like

hitting things hard so me move closer a bit

then i get deleted

[drifting marlin]

my average potential in marseille is higher than most of my bbs

[radiant olive]

that way you'll live longer and have more match impact as a result

[merry scarab]

man i guess i gotta learn how to aim

what ship is good for that

[radiant olive]

nah, 30% accuracy on your main battery is decent

[deep swan]

anything
aiming comes with repetition, not playing specific ships

[radiant olive]

but yes

practise and play more

that's the best way

[deep swan]

ideally not a secondary BB

[plush smelt]

Is survival rate actually significant

[radiant olive]

yes

[plush smelt]

Mine is only like 38%

[radiant olive]

very

[drifting marlin]

only if it correlates to winrate imo

[merry scarab]

lol say 3.6k battles be few mid or many?

[radiant olive]

let me give you an example

[deep swan]

because if the guns are inaccurate enough it's hard to tell if the problem is you or RNG

[open yarrow]

Staying alive

[rare schooner]

Randoms

Arden\_Elenduil's Salmon (NA)

Battles: 1421
Wins: 72.91% (1036/385/0)
Survival: 73.61% (1046/375)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 781
Damage: 62 232
Kills: 1.39
Spotted: 1.91
Scouting: 38 503
Potential: 132 267

Records

Base EXP: 4 525
Damage: 284 103
Kills: 7
Spotted: 8
Scouting: 207 063
Potential: 841 287

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (0/0/-)
Secondaries: (22/1/44.05%)
Torpedoes: (1754/7/26.89%)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (0/0/-)
Rams: (70/1/-)

[open yarrow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/7xArKf5ZVFqpy

[radiant olive]

see how my survival rate correlates to my winrate

they're extremely close together

[merry scarab]

damn 72.9 wr?

[radiant olive]

the longer you live, the more chances you get to deal damage and influence the match

[merry scarab]

how

[radiant olive]

i'm really good with subs

[merry scarab]

i c

oh thats a specific ship

[radiant olive]

though i still have to torp Zui here

I'LL GET YOU SOMEDAY

[merry scarab]

i thought that was account wide XD

[plush smelt]

Yea but a high survival rate doesn't necessarily mean you're gonna have a higher winrate

[dim bridge]

My ass got targeted by a Sub

[honest silo]

Ouch.

[dim bridge]

I forgot how massive worcester was

[merry scarab]

hmm so pick a ship and keep going for better or worse?

[plush smelt]

I've seen people with better survival rate than me but lower winrates

[honest silo]

What is her lenght?

[deep swan]

passive play helps survival rate but lowers winrate

[plush smelt]

But idk maybe im just already in the good enough range

[radiant olive]

HAX, I CALL HAX

😉

[dim bridge]

207.3m

altough its more the fact she sticks out of the water a lot

with that freeboard

[radiant olive]

So what you're saying Zui, is i need to go ramming speed

[dim bridge]

so much god damm realestate

[merry scarab]

Ok so i guess repetition is king what tier, i was thinking ill just keep playing 1 or 2 premiums to relearn, T7,8, or 9?

or should i list my fleet to pick 1?

[plush smelt]

Most actually cracked players have like a 50% survival rate tho so idk maybe im actually just dying too much

[ancient monolith]

I manage to get some good citadels at 21kms with sibir now on BBs, pretty happy about the result

Thor armor is made of paper no?

[dim bridge]

I am almos out of credits

[plush smelt]

Kremlin guns the penetration is really good

[dim bridge]

shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit

[plush smelt]

Unfortunately the same can't be said about the dispersion

[ancient monolith]

well, the F key works great for dispersion

[plush smelt]

Oh right

It gets that

[drifting marlin]

my survival rate is just over 50% it looks like, i would say that's kind of a healthy place to be because generally you want to be just aggressive enough that you barely survive at the end of the game

[honest silo]

Wow I see.

[drifting marlin]

too much hp left over = you were too passive

[honest silo]

I'm currently improving my survival rate zuiKatsu.

[plush smelt]

73% is crazy btw I'm guessing those kinds of numbers are sub exclusive

[radiant olive]

yes

[radiant olive]

well, yes and no

[drifting marlin]

of course there is occasionally the absolute stomp but even then you should ideally see it happening and play super aggro

[honest silo]

@coral herald Thanks for the division.

[radiant olive]

HP is a resource that is to be traded to gain an advantage

[whole meteor]

i feel so chinese

[coral herald]

You too, see you around

[honest silo]

Wow.

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[honest silo]

Same for you.

[whole meteor]

but what else can i do if my dd runs into a libertad

[merry scarab]

Can you all help me pick a ship to spam to relearn ig?

I think premiums so i make money while relearning so I got:

Azuma, Alaska, Kearsarge, Georgia, Agir, Jean Bart B, Taihang

Atago, kii, Littorio, Rochester, Montpelier, San Diego, Massa, Pozharsky, Bagration, Anhalt, Champagne

[honest silo]

Oh, also.

[whole meteor]

and just donates

and im stuck in a 2v1 situation with a jager up my ass

[honest silo]

What is your opinion guys of Regel Carol I?

[radiant olive]

for example, if I surface as a sub to spot a DD and take 3-5k damage, but get the enemy DD killed in return. That's a good trade

[merry scarab]

or i have enough coal to get another T9 if there is a more suitable coal one?

[plush smelt]

I do agree but like im not sure how strong the correlation between winrate and survival rate really is

[drifting marlin]

its not

[radiant olive]

Honestly, georgia, JB, taihang, Kii, atago, alaska, azuma

all good ships

[drifting marlin]

damn

i didnt realize it was in hinden lmao

[merry scarab]

kii it is ill fix that WR

or drive it to 30 percent and give up

[honest silo]

I have Alaska in my wish list.

[merry scarab]

one or the other

[radiant olive]

your potential damage record Zui?

[drifting marlin]

yea

[radiant olive]

that's actually impressive, ngl

[honest silo]

Also this ship is interessing with all honesty guys.

[plush smelt]

I think mine might be hinden too

[radiant olive]

no surprise there....

[honest silo]

That's really nice zuiKatsu.

[drifting marlin]

clausewitz i know has my highest average

[merry scarab]

lol i have an alaska that i never use, it was leaving and i recall being like i missed musashi i will not miss alaska and then never touched her

[drifting marlin]

because it has 1 game in it

[rare schooner]

Randoms

Cirzoo's Hindenburg (EU)

Battles: 42
Wins: 71.43% (30/12/0)
Survival: 52.38% (22/20)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 718
Damage: 161 333
Kills: 1.07
Aircraft: 1.00
Spotted: 0.31
Scouting: 26 000
Potential: 1 868 798

Records

Base EXP: 2 897
Damage: 307 343
Kills: 4
Aircraft: 16
Spotted: 3
Scouting: 95 696
Potential: 4 847 350

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (31/3/38.69%)
Secondaries: (1/1/10.64%)
Torpedoes: (1/1/14.29%)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (1/1/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[steel pier]

blubb blubb No.7

[plush smelt]

4.8m

In hinden

[merry scarab]

i have 29 battles making 34 wr

[honest silo]

Are German cruiser good?

[plush smelt]

Alaska is really good

[open yarrow]

Balanced MM be like

[merry scarab]

i am just bad

[drifting marlin]

i am a big fan of german cruisers, but you need to be on top of positioning and rudder+throttle juking because they are just not fast

[merry scarab]

and i dont want my wr to suffer more cause like i dont want to dig my alaska into an even deeper hole

[drifting marlin]

super reliable damage output

[radiant olive]

a commpetent kiting hindenburger or bremen is an absolute nightmare to deal with

[plush smelt]

Really cuz i play lighthouse and the gameplay feels pretty brainless ngl

It's just turn out at a random spot and spam damage

[drifting marlin]

getting good damage is not hard

turning high damage into consistent winrate is hard

[plush smelt]

True

[drifting marlin]

because you have to be doing damage to the right targets to win the match

[radiant olive]

it's why the conqueror overall has little match impact

most people using it just spam HE and farm irrelevant damage

[plush smelt]

Honestly lighthouse hinden melts bbs so fast that it ends up being pretty impactful

[balmy spruce]

An example: The community for many years has used the term "Damage farmer" in a negative light.

[open yarrow]

I play mainly cruisers

[drifting marlin]

yeah, but for example melting a kiting yamato who has already 1shot a friendly cruiser while the enemy libertad + montana rip open your other flank is completely poitnless

[honest silo]

Oh, I so not really for me as I'm currently learning them?

[radiant olive]

meanwhile my balao has lower average damage but I tend to go after DD's and cruisers, ships that win matches.

So i think the answer to who has more match impact is rather clear

[drifting marlin]

seeing that montana+libertad push begin to succeed and putting yourself in their way would be a lot more impactful than killing the yamato

[plush smelt]

W des Moines gaming

[drifting marlin]

and thats somethign hinden struggles to do quickly because she's not fast

[honest silo]

Hey HazeGrayUnderway.

[plush smelt]

I recently really improved my cruiser gameplay

[dim bridge]

just had a jager player complaining about skill in my match

[open yarrow]

😎

[dim bridge]

gentlemen

[steel pier]

[dim bridge]

Ive seen it all

[open yarrow]

Fave ship

[balmy spruce]

Kind of reflected in rewards: Farming 40k off Battleships with HE + Fires nobody bats an eye. Taking 40k off enemy DDs? That's a big deal.

[honest silo]

I'm just curious guys.

[plush smelt]

Idk what's going on in NA but on EU a Montana pushing is a rare sight

[honest silo]

But Des Moines and Worcester line are good for learn?

[dim bridge]

Yes very

[plush smelt]

Des Moines is really easy to learn

[open yarrow]

DM DM DM DM DM DM DM DM

[plush smelt]

Shove an island and not die

[radiant olive]

btw, Zui
I did some mathing and calculated the average speeds of 3 subs during games. You interested in the results?

[dim bridge]

they fill the fundamentals of cruiser play and have crazy high skill ceilings with low skill floors

they dont get torpedoes however

[open yarrow]

You also learn to aim those wack shell arcs with DM

[dim bridge]

so that may be a downside

[plush smelt]

Lowkey is salem not better than des Moines nowadays

[open yarrow]

You shoot so fast that you can adjust your aim

[balmy spruce]

Playing any Cruiser Line teaches you to play like your life is going to instantly end any second unless you take proper action.

[dim bridge]

yes and no

[open yarrow]

no

[grim portal]

how is the st vincent nowadays

[radiant olive]

i rarely see them

that tells you enough

[plush smelt]

DM arcs are fine the range is too short for them to be that annoying

[honest silo]

I'm currently doing it with Helena and Cleveland.

[lament birch]

still the same thing tbh

[dim bridge]

Salem is better as a lighthouse DM is better as a regular cruiser

[balmy spruce]

Some Cruiser Lines are harsher teachers than others though. The Light-Light Cruiser Lines especially.

[plush smelt]

Guns are still great

[open yarrow]

Can kind of agree with this

[plush smelt]

Conceal isn't as good as before

[dim bridge]

Salem is really really fun as a lighthouse

[plush smelt]

But the biggest issue is the heal cooldown

[dim bridge]

cannot recommend it enough

[plush smelt]

I hated lighthouse

[steel pier]

2 more rounds, then Benson is done

[plush smelt]

Still do

Lighthouse salem is ass imo

[dim bridge]

why?

[radiant olive]

ok so match average speeds for
Salmon
Balao
Surcouf

What do you guys think the results were?

[open yarrow]

You can play more close to islands with DM and the 10km and hydro compared to only the heal and 8.5km radar on salam

[plush smelt]

U cant choose ur engagements as well

Imo

[dim bridge]

lighthouse doesnt lend itself to that

[plush smelt]

And i find that to be a big deal

[dim bridge]

its high damage farming from a distance

[plush smelt]

If I wanted to do that I'd play a hinden or conde or something

[open yarrow]

with what?

[lament birch]

30.8

[plush smelt]

Lighthouse salem

[radiant olive]

on which one?

[open yarrow]

ye

but man

Hindy

My love

[plush smelt]

Hinden on top

[dim bridge]

Lighthouse salem is a little special because its better on islands than other lighthouse cruisers

[honest silo]

Yeah true.

[lament birch]

All

[radiant olive]

nope

🙂

[open yarrow]

Hindy long range is better then Bremen

[honest silo]

And thanks guys regarding my question.

[whole meteor]

"conceal isnt as good as before"

[plush smelt]

Only time bremen is better is when some bb goes broadside

[whole meteor]

13.1

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[honest silo]

I will keep grinding to Worcester and doing pratices.

[radiant olive]

Salmon: 27.55
Balao: 25.86
Surcouf: 25.22

[open yarrow]

within 15 KM

[plush smelt]

Wasn't it 12 something before

[dim bridge]

I wish ya the best

[whole meteor]

still insanely good

[honest silo]

Thanks.

[plush smelt]

I guess

[lament birch]

it was 12.6 or whatever 13.1 womp womp

[plush smelt]

But the heal change is the most annoying part

[open yarrow]

Btw guys

I get Austin this week

[plush smelt]

U gotta play so careful after using the heal

[open yarrow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/reactiongifs-uDwKGxTFrADvO

[zenith tulip]

ranked is unbearable

my guy is going for the cap here

securing the loss

[plush smelt]

Dude my salem stats might be forever blue

[honest silo]

For what ship?

[plush smelt]

Vincent

[open yarrow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/michael-tobias-blue-myself-AVD4STcQQhkZO

[honest silo]

Oh, nice.

[whole meteor]

IRPR existing

[plush smelt]

Nah fr tho played the best games of my life and the stats didn't budge at all

[honest silo]

With all honesty guys.

I really like the Regel Carol I it's a good cruiser.

[plush smelt]

It's not enough

[stark turret]

Gandhi?

[radiant olive]

how many battles total?

[open yarrow]

yes

[plush smelt]

Like 450?

It's above 400

[radiant olive]

well, the law of averages

the more games you have the harder it is to have a large impact on your averages

[honest silo]

Hey KA153R.

[steel pier]

romanian-italian panzerschiff aahhh

[plush smelt]

Exactly and i have too many games on it cuz it was my first premium

Super worth it btw salem might be the best coal ship rn ngl

[stark turret]

My schlifen torp killed a Marceau

[honest silo]

It's a Large Artillery Cruiser proposed by Ansaldo to Romania.

[plush smelt]

Arden what are your thoughts on super ships

[open yarrow]

Vincent only has one torp

[honest silo]

Yeah I agree I really like Salem.

[open yarrow]

but still nice

[radiant olive]

a waste and only good for getting steel during anniversary and christmas

[plush smelt]

And do u think super subs should exist

[open yarrow]

did you guys see that

[steel pier]

so close to Adm Graf Spee, if you see it, you cant unsee
and not all are CBs, not every nation is america

[radiant olive]

yes and no

[open yarrow]

again with the stupid mr beast scam

[radiant olive]

no for the specified reasons above

[plush smelt]

Damn but have u devstruck a cruiser with conde burst thoo

Or melted a repub in an annapolis

[open yarrow]

bruh

again

[radiant olive]

yes because there are superships for all classes except subs

[lament birch]

supershits for me is just i dont think the cars should have F keys at all

[honest silo]

Hey Citadel_Exe.

[open yarrow]

Superships are lame imo

[whole meteor]

i think superships should just have hard seperated

to their own queue

[plush smelt]

I feel like in every other class it doesn't feel that bad to play against a bad supership player

[radiant olive]

they do tend to mess up matchmaking aye

[open yarrow]

Conde and Henri are like two tiers apart

[plush smelt]

But with super subs even a bad player will occasionally devstrike u

So it will feel awful

And so i dont want super subs

[plush smelt]

No one plays them the queues will be too long

[strange mulch]

Super sub sandwich

[whole meteor]

womp womp

[honest silo]

I honestly don't have any credits for Superships guys.

Hey tcbaker.

[radiant olive]

a bad player will occasionally devstrike you in anything really

[open yarrow]

11.6k dubbies

👀

[honest silo]

Yep.

But saving them for trade-in and 15.5

[radiant olive]

and tbh a yamagiri is far more likely to do it by accident

[open yarrow]

what are you going to get

[honest silo]

Yamagiri is premium right?

[radiant olive]

no

[open yarrow]

no

supership

[radiant olive]

japanese super DD

[plush smelt]

I mean maybe in the bbs but like that's way less annoying than a sub cuz if ur getting devstruck by a bb u probably messed up

[strange mulch]

Super Shima

[honest silo]

HMS Vanguard or USS Indianapolis CA-35, USS Atlanta CL-51 and USS Sims DD-409.

This pretty much.

[plush smelt]

Yamagiri players are actual vegetables so im fine with that

[honest silo]

Oh, ok and thanks CaptainHelix and Arden I confused myself.

[grim portal]

youre joking bruh

[strange mulch]

Day 18 of asking LuiWeeGee for Olympia

[balmy spruce]

Even on PVE side of the game, when you see Super Ship players, they almost always are ass.

[radiant olive]

and getting killed by a sub is also often the result of bad positioning tbh

or bad DCP management

[open yarrow]

Indianapolis is good but also quite squishy
Atalanta is the original island king and can have good DMP
Vanguard... idk I guess historical relevant
Sims is gut

[radiant olive]

or both

[open yarrow]

I am going to get Monmouth

And Mainz

[plush smelt]

Maybe

[honest silo]

I see and thanks.

What ship is Monmouth?

[strange mulch]

I'm gonna try for Incheon

[plush smelt]

I'm too shit against subs to really comment

[balmy spruce]

Like fuck man. You bring Hannover into Asymmetric, a mode literally made for BB circle jerking, and the guy is standing off at long range whole time like a Yamato in PVP.

[honest silo]

Nice.

[plush smelt]

But it does feel much worse to die to a sub than a dd

[radiant olive]

for example, @plush smelt , if you're in a DD in a fight, and you get pinged by a sub, what do you do?

[plush smelt]

Run away

And dcp

[steel pier]

british cruiser. iirc also 25,4cm guns

[radiant olive]

ok, when do you DCP?

[plush smelt]

I go dark first

But i cant remember the last time a sub pinged me in a dd tbh

[open yarrow]

UK heavy cruiser. Basically a Gibraltar without smoke, more range and is AP only

[honest silo]

Oh, that's interessing.

[plush smelt]

It's usually the cruisers where I'm getting blasted

[radiant olive]

then you weren't playing against me clearly

and your answer is almost right

[plush smelt]

Thankfully not

[honest silo]

Yeah I would do the same pretty much.

[steel pier]

ok, 23,4cm guns- what a weird caliber

[radiant olive]

the correct answer is you DCP after you've gone dark when the torpedoes arrive

[open yarrow]

Then you are doing something wrong

[open yarrow]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES

I need it

[steel pier]

weird caliber

i like round numbers

[honest silo]

I will for sure take note of it.

[open yarrow]

it's in cm

[radiant olive]

then you DCP, the reason being is that if you go dark and then DCP, someone like myself will still get a ping back on you a lot of the time

[open yarrow]

isn't it round with inch?

[plush smelt]

Are u telling me ur not getting devstruck by a 45% sub in a des Moines?

[lament birch]

I think the last time, i got literally greifed by a sub was some shitter, who literally drove straight into the base on my side and proceeded to spend 15+ mins launching all his torps within 3km

[steel pier]

i like round numbers in both mm and cm

[open yarrow]

no

You are def playing wrong then

[plush smelt]

Hmm

[plush smelt]

In what way

[radiant olive]

Cirzoo, how do you play your DM?

[lament birch]

Would literally go point blank, Turn away come back 1min later and repeat

[honest silo]

For sure enjoy the HMS Monmouth.

[open yarrow]

Getting devstruck

[radiant olive]

i will admit that cruisers have it rough

[steel pier]

in UAD, i even design ships with only round cm numbers.
IJN CLs with 17cm guns
IJN CAs with 23cm guns, for example

[radiant olive]

vs subs

[open yarrow]

I like cruisers that are a bit weird

[south schooner]

so since tier 12 is being added to WoT do you think we can see it in ships too?

[plush smelt]

Shove an island and survive, atp I've learned which islands are unplayable in a sub game tho

[honest silo]

I see and that's nice.

[radiant olive]

ah, well there's the problem

when you're on a sub flank you should NEVER try to island camp

[open yarrow]

Cruisers are actually a nice challenge.
I also really like Colbert

[radiant olive]

unless you have the perfect island

and even then

[honest silo]

Tbh I would have got USS Texas BB-35 guys.

[radiant olive]

it's risky

[open yarrow]

But setting fires with Utrecht is my evil side

[steel pier]

you have Atago?

[open yarrow]

ofc

well...

[honest silo]

Yeah I'm still learning to play them.

[open yarrow]

Takao

[plush smelt]

I mean what am I supposed to do in my des moines then? Open water?

[honest silo]

And use island as cover.

[steel pier]

wdym

[south schooner]

watch hago

[radiant olive]

you can use islands as cover, but don't just move forward and back

while sitting in the same place

[honest silo]

Understood.

[radiant olive]

that's an invitation to get torped

[honest silo]

Oh, also I have a question guys.

[plush smelt]

He's like as good as me i dont think ill get much value

[honest silo]

With Indianapolis is possible sink I-56?

Or no?

[open yarrow]

Islands, but you need to know which islands and when to move out or have a escape plan.
But I have the UU on DM with makes it speed up faster behind islands

[open yarrow]

ARP Takao

[drifting marlin]

openwater dm op

[open yarrow]

No

[steel pier]

i have normal Atago

[honest silo]

I still don't have the Legendary module.

[whole meteor]

wgat

[steel pier]

and well Maya, S Dragon aswell as ARP Haguro and Nachi

[drifting marlin]

throttle juking with legmod hello

[open yarrow]

It is a DM with spotterplane

[plush smelt]

He just said u cant camp islands in a sub game

[whole meteor]

oh

why spotter dm

huh

[honest silo]

But yeah you guys know if this is possible?

[plush smelt]

That does sound exactly like how I play DM...

[open yarrow]

So adapt, when you know your side has a sub closeby you need a escape route and be ready to run

[steel pier]

you have asw planes.

[drifting marlin]

the hardest thing to hit as a sub is a guy with eyes sitting still inthe middle of nowhere

[honest silo]

I know, but I mean with main guns.

[steel pier]

try and error

[honest silo]

True.

[plush smelt]

Ok

[steel pier]

i sank an Archerfish with Sibir secondary

[plush smelt]

LOWKEY give des moines and salem 12km sub surveillance

[open yarrow]

btw guys, look at this

[whole meteor]

🫃

[open yarrow]

one airstrike

[honest silo]

Nice.

[plush smelt]

Y'all prefer salem or dm nowadays

[whole meteor]

DM

always

[plush smelt]

Im lowkey leaning salem

[lament birch]

dm for rando, ranked always salem lol

[honest silo]

I'm for both tbh.

[plush smelt]

Feels much more comfy to play

[open yarrow]

Sub surveillance can only go to kiting ships like Zao and Venezia xD

[honest silo]

I mean to use in Randoms.

[steel pier]

im lowkey a Zao dude

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[open yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1442173113256116425/1470569034901754079/attachment.gif

[drifting marlin]

zao 🔥

[steel pier]

[whole meteor]

we are NOT losing this match

[open yarrow]

Zao deserves more love

[drifting marlin]

fratstar and zaradesu it is now 2016

[honest silo]

You guys suggest to grind the Zao line?

[open yarrow]

but then I play Hindy anyway

[steel pier]

[whole meteor]

real

[plush smelt]

I lowkey never even get to t10 ranked

[whole meteor]

chinese libertad

what could possibly go wrong

[plush smelt]

😭

[whole meteor]

[open yarrow]

Bing Chilling

[plush smelt]

But actually colbert in ranked is funny af

[open yarrow]

Never bothered with ranked

[little abyss]

🫃

[open yarrow]

it is worth it?

[honest silo]

Or no?

[plush smelt]

No

[steel pier]

why not

[plush smelt]

It's not

[open yarrow]

lol

[steel pier]

HE

[little abyss]

Ranked fun for brawling

Plus you get dubs

[plush smelt]

Ranked takes too many games

[steel pier]

only thing you need to worry abt is get cits

but funny cars

[honest silo]

No broadside for sure in Randoms.

[steel pier]

and Mogamers with 15,5cm Triple guns > 20,3cm guns

[honest silo]

Like Pensacola.

[honest silo]

I prefer the 203mm a part I have IJN Suzuya sister ship of IJN Mogami.

[steel pier]

Mogami is better with the triples

[open yarrow]

needs

more

daka

[steel pier]

Ibuki 's 20,3cm guns get good then

[plush smelt]

Helix have u tried the funny conde car?

[open yarrow]

I refuse to play super ships on principal

same for subs and CV's

[plush smelt]

It's a funny 200k average boat

[drifting marlin]

ibuki shells are solid but zao is when they actually become railguns

[plush smelt]

Those shells hit like nukes

[rare steppe]

MWA MWA CVS

Kidding

lol

BUFF MY CVS

[open yarrow]

I know, it think it's OP junk

[rare steppe]

Audacious

[steel pier]

you have to trust the process. i also use her heavy guns. untill ppl told me the light guns are better on Mogamers and they are and Suzuya is a diff caliber

[plush smelt]

Embrace the dark side

[steel pier]

[plush smelt]

Cmon it's not the same as CVs and Subs

[open yarrow]

Tonijn 😄

[steel pier]

yes

plus Helfrich

[open yarrow]

Historical accurate

except for, you know

the background

xD

[steel pier]

see? join us, become dark sider
one of us
one of us
one of us

[open yarrow]

I will keep it this way

[plush smelt]

100 CV games 😭😭

[open yarrow]

Tried it

didn't like it

[whole meteor]

bruh ok

[steel pier]

rookie numbers

how aboot 5000 sub games

[plush smelt]

If u dont have the beautiful red 0% WR on subs and CVs what are u even doing

[honest silo]

I see and nice.

[steel pier]

sub love

cv life

[honest silo]

But so you guys suggest the Zao line?

[plush smelt]

Depends

What are u looking for

[steel pier]

Zao HE is insane at times

[open yarrow]

Zao isn't bad, but there are better lines

I think

[honest silo]

Possible future line to grind.

[steel pier]

one final game and Benson is done for

[honest silo]

Pretty much this.

[steel pier]

letsgo on blubb blubb No.8

[plush smelt]

No i mean what are u looking for in terms of playstyle etc

Do u need the ship to be strong?

[open yarrow]

Like Adalbert

[plush smelt]

Zao is probably fine if it interests you tho I've never actually played it myself

[open yarrow]

Adalbert is a fun boot, but it's not that strong

[steel pier]

one day, i will also get the 5k sub games

[plush smelt]

Btw outnumbered might actually be good

I am a believer now

[drifting marlin]

bruh

[plush smelt]

[drifting marlin]

i think ive been running it since the skill came out

[plush smelt]

Really

[lament birch]

yer same

[plush smelt]

I only recently started running it

[lament birch]

most of my cruisers have always had it

[drifting marlin]

ye, the way i play a lot of my cruisers i intentionally put myself in front of the enemy's strong flank

[honest silo]

I still don't know on that side tbh.

[drifting marlin]

the reason our clan winrate was so high in early cb seasons is i just auto-won napoli 1v1s using outnumbered back when they were limited 1

[open yarrow]

alright

let me break it down

[fickle estuary]

Those Japanese HE shells hurt when they hit 😭

[plush smelt]

I justed hated having to give up turret traverse but now I've gotten used to it

[open yarrow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/flip-male-mKMGLhoD8L4yc

[drifting marlin]

and then we have a napoli and they dont so we automatically win

[plush smelt]

If i remember correctly the skill got buffed right?

[steel pier]

[drifting marlin]

got buffed to not count your own ship

[plush smelt]

Yea i think that was crucial

[drifting marlin]

so you can actually be in a 2v1 (1 friendly) and still have the skill activate

[honest silo]

And thanks Cirzoo.

[plush smelt]

Cuz i mean even now it feels like it activates kinda rarely

[honest silo]

On what ship?

[plush smelt]

Without the change it would rarely ever proc i imagine

[drifting marlin]

but even before then, we played solo napoli (sometimes with DD) off flank and i was demon with outnumbered

(behold old minimap render)

[drifting marlin]

ft. our marceau DC'd

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[open yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/the-procedure-cat-donut-cookie-gif-25830675

[honest silo]

Wow that's really a nice battle zuiKatsu.

[plush smelt]

It's such a massive difference I swear

[whole meteor]

holy moly

[hybrid whale]

So how likely is it hybrids are banned for CB

[plush smelt]

Especially on bad dispersion ships like marseille

[steel pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fish-ai-cat-ai-gif-gif-12752290148466324996

[plush smelt]

Top 3 did work

[open yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/kenjou-cat-500x-soup-slurp-gif-2518396184030093114

[grim portal]

No gaming

[errant birch]

Hello is it there we can cry about the skilled and fair and balanced class that carrier class is ? "@WoWs Team"

[whole meteor]

the other side kinda um

[open yarrow]

no

[whole meteor]

exploded for fun

[honest silo]

If not wrong Napoli is a low damage and for the major secondary?

[open yarrow]

we already did this a lot

[drifting marlin]

more random cb replays i found

demon napoli torpedoes

[open yarrow]

https://giphy.com/gifs/laughing-teeth-igkaipulla-cIQzaJjvrv4YoeJqi0

[ancient monolith]

we don't do that anymore. Instead just don't bother in match, have fun and don't care about winning or anything else really

[hybrid whale]

CVs are decently balanced there are just some that are a bit gonked

[plush smelt]

Is petro LM still worth running btw

[errant birch]

Yeah to hard to understand for devs that doesn't play their own game, that no carriers are not fun

[errant birch]

xd

xd

xd

[steel pier]

always give your voidcat potassium

[plush smelt]

I tried it once or twice but I didn't really like the fact that u only got one shot off in the radar

[hybrid whale]

CVs generally aren’t a issue unless your CV is braindead

[ancient monolith]

I see petro like literally every match in EU, so I guess she has still some appeal

[open yarrow]

Not too much or it will ODD

[open yarrow]

Hello here 👋

[plush smelt]

I meant the unique upgrade

[steel pier]

just abit of potassium per day

[errant birch]

yeah no they are not an issue

by anychances

[honest silo]

Wow.

[errant birch]

do you often play carrier ?

[river dune]

they do understand though, why do you think Ocean is getting absolutely massacred?

and Independencia?

🥀

[drifting marlin]

petro uu is kinda funny, rangemod kinda works for some dispersion buff without as heavy downsides

[grim portal]

Let me use my chair please

[drifting marlin]

but reload is still my pref on that ship :>

[hybrid whale]

I do in fact dabble in CVs and they’re not broken they’re decently hard and require maintaining disapline on planes exept essex aparently

[open yarrow]

"This is my chair now" vibes

[ancient monolith]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-lebowski-walter-walter-sobchak-were-you-listening-to-the-dudes-question-gif-17676563

[shell temple]

Marco Polo ftw

[plush smelt]

You know what's even less fun

Submarines

[steel pier]

im free, woooooo

[ancient monolith]

Yeah, in terms of unfun cringe to play against: sub > cv > he spamming island camping cruiser

[open yarrow]

Sieg!