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We already have most of those last generation cold war ships and they fit well enough within the bounds of T10 and below
(Grau on account of having been refitted in the 1950s or 1960s and Hull because... yeah.)
Tonijn is the most modern ship in the game right now
I wouldn't really call Grau 'modern' except by when she was finally sent in reserve/scrapped
ah right I forgot that one...
We could have missile ships added from t6 up a few years ago instead of subs and it would gel about as well with the gameplay as subs do, so idk weird point to pursue from you there
Tonijn
Commissiioned in 1966
ooh just about the 1970s with that one.
Hull is a 1950s ship with 1970s guns
Which is why adding uss nautilus isn't a stretch at all
The missile knows where it is
It knows this because it knows where it isn't
and it follows that the position where it was is now the position where it isn't.
What did I miss?
100% wasted release slot
Ig we go back to snowrunner
For you, yes, for me, eeehhh not so much
at least i can soon enjoy italian subs
For wows as a whole
soon TM
Ig this downtime of no new trees to release
Will be solid for gaming other stuff
So thats nice
i kinda hope pan am dds get some major changes because as of now they dont seem too great
Looked neat to me
on paper they basically seem like elbings that give up pen for dpm
and also impractical torps
I can vibe with that
I would like a destroyer with no DPM, no speed and no HP pool please
Me when 400k is no dpm
Looks inside
189k base AP DPM
the dpm is the only thing they have going for them, everything else seems so weak
Enemy dd: "angles"
I wouldn't be surprised if they give the T10 a speed buff
I wasn't expecting them to stick with the irl 32 knot rated speed and wouldn't have blamed them if they sped it up
again, still in testing. so we simply wait
Ememy DD: goes flat
You do, because Halland AP pen is terrible
When did 120ish mm DD pen ever matter
but regardless of their outcome. i only want one of them, so im fine
You hit things you can pen
i only want the T8 because im from mexico lol
ik, we both want the same one, for reasons 
I'd get the T9 and T10 just to have them in port
although the entire line being real ships is really sick
definitely still getting the 10 for snowflake events
Rest is preety binary so having lower or higher pen on 120mm guns is giga whatever
It's when you set your knife to cut at a more slanted angle, giving much larger slabs of meat for cooking rather than straight-down smaller slices.
which is a good thing
I'm genuinely happy we get Nueva Esparta as the T9
i think the other version of the game had nueva esparta as T10 and julio as a super
As for why they mention that here in WoWs, I have absolutely no idea what they mean by that. 
~~the one, who shall not be named
~~
They also had two Fletchers
ollo
And no Marcilio Dias
clearly we need more fletchers
More Fletchers 
give us all 175 fletchers
I'm still waiting for a Gridley-class
too many
i want viet Skory class as VII prem
actually the pan am dd's might be cracked for operations didnt even think of that
Smokeless gunboat DDs don't usually fare well in ops
just gotta see what their pen values are at range
They have heal which makes them better than some but being AP only and having not much torpedo power is going to limit them a lot
but first, ima get Loyang, no matter the cost (well no gold cost at least)
loyang is a great boat
Should I maybe create a Game Discussion forum regarding Escort Aircraft Carriers guys?
and getting rid of Karl Johann doesnt hurt me
They deffinetly wont be cracked in ops which is what makes this a more interesting line to grind in ops
You have to play further forward than the rest of the team in order to do damage which means you'll take aggro from the bots instead of them, you don't have the smokescreen to fire from stealth, and you won't be able to stand up to concerted focus fire
actually they may only be good in the ww2 ops because of how strong the healing is in them
darn
Also the torpedoes are genuinely pathetic
As if the small torpedo salvo weight wasn't enough of a balancing factor
Even there, the bots turn bow-in towards you
You need broadsides in AP-only ships or you struggle to get damage usually
me who played jupiter during debut ww2 ops
Unless you have a lot of penetration
I don't remember that
guess this really comes down to seeing their pen
Was that before we started divving?
yes
Huh
Again, I dont see why would 120mm gun pen matter
In Total they are 177 Fletcher-Class if you count the 9 Cancelled.
at least Elbing AP is decent enough, yet the spam was not much, pre-UU
Because AP shell penetration depends on the angle you hit the armor plate at?
Unlike SAP and HE which don't care
just hit superstructure exclusively
Cheap knockoff San Martin
Which is what makes it pog
Gib
And not raltar
Just Gib
anyone have the camos?
also didnt realize 20 de julio had 9 flak bursts
Yup
Shame she doesn't have DFAA
That's basically the only reason I want Dalarna after all
I got the ship, no camos 
well, one of them anyway I presume (Alabama). Wait are they both for her?
What's that?
ohhhh nevermind.
i know i have some victory day camos but i dont remember for which ships
nvm i only have one
I have one for my Oktyabrskaya Revolutsiya iirc
I forgot I have that thing.
i guess nobody watched the stream here 
-# and yes that's the only ship I can confirm I got VD on
too busy with college 
well i assume minsk might be similar
is it one of the previewable camos that are available to buy?
I have the rasputin camo for the nikolai
Wow that's amazing.
It is glorious
Do you have the submissive femboy skin for the Gato
I like sleeping
damn i dont have the minsk or new orleans in port
I only use power bottom skins
hehehe
I'm sorry what
So - how's the journey in ASIA has gone, Arden?
Any fun?

Nowhere, haven't played yet
did they die
Where Gizmo? He needs to be asked the daily when Yari question
Given his gameplay i doubt he'd have a hard time in ASIA
At least, that's my own judgement from watching his sub gameplay
iRay sounds like some weird Apple gadget 
Yes?
(literally a lamp)
no, I just took 4 hours of sleep earlier because NA wasn't active
Yeah, the game has a ton of in game purchases (And gambling elements)
But ςεχ?
What did i miss?
Hello, WoWs Discord.
Oh huh, Bob got muted
azur lane, sexual designs sure but no actual depictions of sex itself
I love those😏
wat he do
One particular pair of Spanish/PanAm captains 
Is Indomitable playable or do I not get it?
Got annoyed about someone DMing him and brought it up here
Apparently that was enough
I've been there, would have blocked instead though
so you go to the armory and there's a few interesting commanders... just a couple...
Wait BOBTHEBALL got muted?
Yup
Wow, so Bob's gone
johannes is too much for the game
Oh.
😔
I still dont get how some ppl get a boner from sexualized depictions of warships.
I see a big pair that I should buy 
How do y'all know when someone gets muted?
tag
I think that's a permamute because he was on his last strike
sexualized, there's your key word
wow
They have that black mic symbol that's crossed out next to his name
And thats perfectly normal, you dont need to "get" why or how people get boners
You answered it yourself
Sexualized
I'm not the target demographic of this
Yeah cause there’s no FURRIES
but given how much people are paying for it, I know said demographic exists
😼 😼
This update fixes the italian bbs correct?
But you did you get a boner
the only animal commander I really want in this game is honestly "NA Server Hamster"
That would be great
I'm in a weird state of interacting with a lot of people familiar with anime, but severely lacking in any knowledge pertaining to the subject.
no my 'tism is too strong
I did, however, 3D print my Fuso-sona
bob got the mute⁉️
I'm deep in anime but I barely watch any anymore
ts so ass
what did the goober do
Yep
He got hit with the "calling out bad play" allegation
Check his last messages
Too much flaming a dude
was it that bad
Unluck
Its still funny how some people (propably hardcore christians) have problems with this.
Most reviews of the Prince of Wales I see online keep trying to play it as a brawler 💀
Not that bad, but he was on his last strike I believe
PQ?
Now its getting a bad rep as a bad ship
bro bringing up Christianity in game discusy
Yeah
Unsurprising
fuck, I'm fighting an epoxy guy
PQ plays every battleship ever as a brawler
poop quality?
And the AP is nerfed sure it hurts but the one game I saw it played as ... well a HE farmer
Almost to tier 8 down pan asia destroyers
it absolutely wrecks
how bad was it? 
ok femboys im gonna go play manly video games
truly a mediocre review
have fun ranting
He kept complaining that Wisconsin, the third most accurate battleship in the game, has inaccurate guns
Farmed a Jean Bart, Iwami, etc... almost 100k damage in a few minutes
oh dear
It was truly a video gaming moment
@livid bridge needs to understand I don't get off to anime trash or have a fursona
I do have a fusona
fusona
So a furry 
holy shi--
as in... a modified Fuso-class battleship I used to use to represent myself
If only if it wasnt for that absurd price tag I would get Wales in a heartbeat
I have no shame about this fact
I think that counts as a mechsona of some sort
Since she's an upgraded KGV
Really? I thought it looked kinda bad
Most people would
BC dispersion on KGV was already enough to move her to tier 9 probably
If you play it like a traditional BB sure itll be bad
I genuinely don't know tbh?
you identify as a fuso?
it plays as a stealth large cruiser essentially with strong belt armor (but above the waterline citadel)
And insane HE
BC dispersion is pretty cool but the AP seems horrendous and the heal is also pretty unappealing
it's such a cursed fit too
it's been gun swapped to Chinese 13cms and has an integrated mast and missile tubes amidships
it's easier for me to just say yes atp
I mean its an HE spammer, why use AP lol
Battles: 774
Wins: 64.21% (497/277/0)
Survival: 58.79% (455/319)
Base EXP: 1 207
Damage: 71 381
Kills: 1.46
Aircraft: 2.20
Spotted: 0.17
Scouting: 12 264
Potential: 1 104 114
Base EXP: 2 876
Damage: 212 596
Kills: 7
Aircraft: 37
Spotted: 3
Scouting: 81 111
Potential: 3 372 000
Main Battery: (1081/7/22.90%)
Secondaries: (14/1/17.98%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (4/1/-)
Rams: (4/1/-)
I mean yeah but
because its a battleship
with battleship guns
Well good luck lol I guess you play Bismarck as a sniper because its a battleship thats supposed to hit accurately from 30 km
I mean she's basically a cruiser in all but name in this video game
Sufona
Yeah PoW isnt everyone's cup of tea
Oh it gets worse
The main battery isn't even 41st Year Type it's got Elswick guns
and it's been diesel electric swapped at some later point in its life
Pow wow
what? How is that at all relevant to what I said 😭
but someone who plays British BBs frequently she's honestly better than Monarch in dealing with uptiers
Should be nuclear
The original version of PoW had more DPM than Rhode Island at tier 8
It was a video gaming moment of all time
Because you said PoW should fight like a battleship even if in game she's essentially a large cruiser
Wish they kept it lol
y
Why not, the UK hasnt gotten a scary BB since forever
because its dumb
Is Vincent not enough for you?
If PoW's a glass cannon she should lean into it in the fullest
Nah I want something that actually sailed
on shiptool
glass cannon
She's tankier than literally all the tier 8 cruisers
I mean PoW's pretty good as she is
She still does
15k more HE DPM than Monarch roughly
but I kinda wished the UK got something that isnt average
I realised the original boiler space could be dimensionally swapped with MAN 9L58/64s or something I think?
So it's a full diesel electric now with 101500kw
The perimeter for a reactor box would not fit though
Meanwhile the other nations got broken stuff
UK line is just forgotten about
I have an internal drawing somewhere but it needs updating
that 39.6% is ticking me off
Well she isnt a cruiser
just be 40%
no
She's a cruiser in gameplay, as you said
So we compare her to them
I said large cruiser
They gave UK thunderer and then never again
or battlecruiser
...wait it isn't just a flat 40%
I'm so annoyed
ok this is the original but I changed the mast and navigation bridge configuration and this still is a turbine ship
Okay, she's tankier than every large cruiser at tier 8 then
While having more DPM than every heavy cruiser at tier 8
Slower tho
The KGVs were occasionally referred to as "armored battlecruisers" within the Royal Navy 
PoW had 183k dpm
Though I suppose her healing and spotters makes up for it
😭
-Wargaming
Yeah, it was utterly absurd
@drifting marlin whats ur tromp build?
Alright fine I guess yall got ptsd from the Thunderer
what kind of deflection is that
Somehow the Colombo and Libertad arent as scrutinized
What?
they are
Im not deflecting lol
just because X is busted doesnt mean Y isn't either
have you seen how many times people mention both those ships as being overtuned
ive been switching it up but i think this was what i had that match
Someone asks about how the new Colombo performs no one budges an eye
especially colombo
Columbo and libertad are some of the most scrutinized ships in the game???
like okay
the moment I say Wales shouldve kept her OG DPM now people are talking
"Colombo and Libertad are insane and stupid, therefore we need another insane and stupid battleship"
i also like british ships too
wack
idk i feel like 5.8km detect and decent guns with speedboost means i should be early contest but half the time i just get demolished by support
but PoW is a lil too silly with those prenerf stats
There’s more hate for Columbo than there are for CVs in some circles
guess it's a big target
Hey zuiKatsu.
I tank the range
basically conqueror at t8
And what is your opinion on her atm?
its very usable
Tromp doesn't really contest usually IIRC
I dont take super
(I don't own her so maybe I'm wrong as well)
dw, i hate Columbo equally to Schlörffen, Liberted and Valpapper although im not on the receiving end of CC often
like this? but if you're playing out at range you arent in airstrike range
I run it like this
For me she shines where she shines but gets absolutely murked when she doesnt (which applies to the whole British BB line but she doesnt get the burst superheal)
I have her. She's hella slow without the emergency engine boost and yeah doesn't really feel like a contestor.
More like a supporting light cruiser for an actual destroyer...
u can drop Turret traverse and the 5% dpm for FB as well
Well theyre definitely all for battle thats for sure
(which funny enough was her irl designation)
sevastopol style heal is certainly a heal
I just prefer turret traverse
cant say if they cruiser as much as the others
I do feel like that's the play
Busted ships are balanced by bad players- LuiWeeGee probably
Hood, Scharnhorst, Dunkerque, Repulse
Is Tromp turret traverse that bad?
ye
guess ill just try some long range farmer build
but then i might as well just play khab
its 15 seconds with traverse
15s 180 turn on shiptool

no surprising, if we see Tromp as a CL
I'm planning on trading in Tromp for Kaga later on and then reacquiring her.
loud incorrect buzzer only Hood and Repulse
15s is... not terrible I guess
just saw bismarck miss a lenin entirely at sub 10km
you buzzer doesnt interest me
And nothing gets done about them
Then again I'm used to playing Kleb with no turret traverse
naw
Well their was the recent Italian "nerfs"
I couldnt
Tbh HMS Incomparable is interessing.
That's a wargaming decision, not us
Valp did get nerfed healing
The country of the respective ship gets to decide what they are, Scharnhorst was a BB as was Dunkek
Dunkerque was a direct awnser to the italian CAs of the Trento class. she fits -now that i know this- even more then she did before
what does the new colombo nerf look like
Feel like theirs not enough pressure on WG
and for Scharnhorst, we had this discussion. you wont ever change me
"Nerf"
cuz I know they worsened the dispersion and removed range mod
Hahaha
Now, for Dunkek, I'm willing to give leeway on the "it's a battle cruiser"
up to the devs to listen to us at the end of the day 😔
no actually nerfed it after that change
i am on the side of Royal Navy Commander, retire, Geoffrey Bennett
yeah it gets freaking Soviet dispersion
in said book, from Cmndr Bennett, she is stated as a direct response to the CA Trento
like after they announced it
and I clob people for 31k dmg at less than 10 km when I went to the PTS
By WW2, fast battleship had taken the place of battle cruiser for the most part
Keyword there:
at less than 10 km
oh and what joy, Scharnhorst in her first breath, was planned as a response to Dunkerque too
if it's bow-on, sure, that's a lot
It confuses me somewhat too
Just for know guys.
bow on and I shot the superstructure
i mean whats its new value. originally it was more accurate to 15
last pts?
but like they worsened it
Incomparable isn't that good in randoms right?
harder to work with but good either way
somehow has tighter dispersion than alot of actual BCs on what is essentially point blank at high tiers
Last last PTS, before the new changes, so Im not sure how it works now
but knowing WG its probably incremental change
did you run range mod?
no
I didnt run any modules lol I just ran the Colombo stock
stop complaining about X ship because colombo is busted is sure a take
welp
of takes
and at this point as much as I love the British BBs man WG treats Cucklombo like a spoiled brat
Yeah I suppose theyre strong lol
colombo just so happens to be the one that RNGd into being the best of the most coddled class
so ye
but the top class have... well their own top tiers
the dispersion divergence point got nerfed too so there's that
CVs did certainly become more manageable as of late
Rhode Island still unnerfed
Vermont still unnerfed
Bungo still unnerfed
Wisconsin still unnerfed
Libertad was barely touched at best
Good
Libertad got nothing more than a slap on the wrist
Bungo HE buff last year was a curveball lmao
No one wants sledgehammer changes after YY
I guess Wiskey kinda deserves her status given she was a real ship (yes I have bias towards actual real ships :p)
see you can clearly see WG has no issue with Colombo doing 30k with SAP
Of what you guys are talking about?
Ofc
Schlieffen was never nerfed, only powercrept 

WG has issue about colombo doing 30k across the map
Dunkerque and Strasbourg are nice
Wisconsin is a nice and yeah I agree.
I'm guessing you don't mind Smaland being strong too
what does 'B' in ship names mean? like Kaga B etc., and how to get it?
Or DM
Black Friday.
Black, black friday
i feel, she wasnt even touched abit. and now, with Lütjens on it allowed, it doesnt get any better
DM never nerfed despite being the best
oh ok thanks
I mean at this point practically they're not going to touch Schlieffen except to buff her
ngl i think operations are kinda fun
You are welcome.
Libertad exists, therefore Schlieffen kind of fell off overnight
Havent played them but I do plan gathering French ships after British ones
Time for another battle with Tennessee.
They definitely are
how can you even make buffs still. as if her 12km sec isnt already annoying enough.
Dukek, massa and iwami, the BB trio that made me stop playing BBs for months at a time
KGV is my favorite ship atm
abysmal
I think its better to nerf at this point, atleast the peak ceiling of BBs at Tier 10
i keep grinding damage and got 4 kills as yorktown while doing pacific offensive
though I dont do Tier X that much (too many gimmicks) and I stick to Tier 8 max
all thoose sec ships, 5km range on them, issue solved
Faster secondary reload, giving her the 6km hydro, armor buffed, main gun buffs in general, torpedo reload buffs
Plenty of buffs to choose from
oh wonderfull, faster sec reload 
Although the first one is doubtful
sec range nerff, that sounds better
Unlikely
What with Libertad having 15km secondaries 
Id love for Colombo to get crap dispersion at every range but this is a fantasy at this point
cheshire secondaries solo
i said: "and the others too", so this one included

And Libertad getting weaker armor due to its strong firepower, but this is also a fantasy at this point
Wont be surprised if Libbie gets a buff somehow disguised as a nerf
coop playes are built diff
valpappers gets an appeasement nerff, which really isnt one at all. cuz nothing much will change
yes. and i am aware this will also include my Regele Carol, but i wouldnt care one bit abt it
They would never nerf them to 5km secondary.
I just find them mind-numbingly boring

As they would need a fully rework.
this guy gets it
Atleast even with fire spammers I actually aim my shots rather than "go go gadget secondaries"
woah it’s the EmpressCheshire
what's a good VII-VI premium to buy for doubloons/irl money?
they should do, you cant change this mind of mine. its simply annoying as hell, tier X is becoming an: "who can pull the best afk one-man-show" fest and thats abt it
62 pity on the Junior Recruiting Station crate btw-
Atlanta
Not a Tier 7 but go get the Anhalt trust me
What class
What T6 premium subs even are there? I only remember the pan Asian one
That's it
xin zhuong guo my beloved
oh shi
grr sub bad grr
@radiant olive Check out what i got from the crate i had when inviting you kek
she's funny, deepwater s-1

Xin Zhuong Guo my beloved.
i mainly play CV‘s but a cruiser should still be good
Yucky!
not that I have her on any of my accounts but the concept of a deepwater torp sub
No idea
Loewenhardt isn't anymore
speaking of t6 premium CV, what the hell is lowendhardt
I see, but well I can't do nothing as I'm not a developer.
Molotov is a pretty fun option she's got incredible guns but very squishy
Tovarish Tuan, how is you?
An abomination
what's gimmick
Historically or in game
or what's the differentiator
Just got back from a nap
in game
VERY strong planes with excessively accurate divebombers
i also didnt mean to say, you should do smthn abt. but i keep steadfast in my opinion, there has to be done smthn abt thoose one-man-show secs at X and IX too
imagine hildebrand dbs at T6
ima continue for OUR Fletcher, all i need is abit gold for another prisoner camo
I'm assuming she isnt obtainable often
Her gimmick is she gets midway dive bombs with an incredibly tight circular drop pattern
How do something? If I'm just a player.
She hasn't been available for a long time
again, read my msg, i never said, this is your job, but my opinion is cemented. there has to be a change done. 
Yeah I read it and well good luck.
The scharns aren’t battlecruisers
They are designated battleships with smaller armaments
Bearns main gimmick is her fighters, she's really good at denying the other CV strikes and airspace
any suggestions or warnings for using cherbourg
dont die
Don’t get citadelled
i can only recommend reading the book from Geoffrey Bennett, retired Cmndr, RN "Naval Battles of WW2"
is she bad
are you gonna play wows today
The British called them Battlecruisers, as they made the term
The Germans called them "Linienschiffe" or "ship of the line"; a term they use for all battleships
good question
and no, i will not accept any mentioning of ingame armor stats or else on this topic, as we alr know, Scharnhorst's belt is thiccer then irl
Stay mobile and don't fall into the trap of sitting bow in
I know that much
does cherbourg play like a mini richelieu in a way
6 cherbourgs + 1 Nebraska comp in cbs
25mm bow yeah
the naval history channel leaking into game discussy
6 schills solo
no it’s not
a ship is not only classified by this alone. but also the purpose. take Dunkerque and Strasbourg for example. also BCs, designed as a direct response to the italian Trento-class HeavyCruisers. so their purpose of hunting cruisers was clear. same goes for the Ugly Sisters
if history is cool
game discussy
why am i not there
not yet*
im gonna be infamous
Battlecruiser/Fast Battleship... great class "distinctions"
it's more or less based on naval doctrine I guess
Take a deep breath and self reflect
nah Scharn deffinetly a BB if you are talking history
i did self reflect
all signs point to it
~~its pretty easy for me: BBs fight against other BBs in battle lines. BCs are mainly for cruiser hunting. they should not engage BBs, since its really not their strenght
she's a larger pocket battleship, trust
to the point that everyone calling Scharn a BC became a meme
The Alaska class cruisers were alot larger and more heavily armed than many WW1 era battlecruisers lol
Then you got HMS Hood
Which contrary to most beliefs
is fairly heavily armored
then we got Valparaiso
12 inches main belt, thicker than most battleships of her time
she lost to a BB too. but ofc she couldnt say: "no we wont fight Bismarck" but she still is a BC, just on the top of the iceberg
The dunk and Stras were also not designated as BCs by the French, though the Germans and Brits still viewed them as such
Battlecruiser is a murky term made worse when looking at Germany’s intended role for capital ships as raiders. You could easily use purpose as an argument for Bismarck being a battlecruiser under that logic.
Yes because apparently ships apparently can survive getting their ammoracks detonated
Hood got very unlucky
@honest silo you playin tonight?
But she was a very dangerous adversary that its fortunate for Bismarck to have rolled a D20 10x over to achieve that specific shot
Oh well atleast Bismarck didnt get to celebrate her victory for long
Anyways back to BCs
yeah Hood really blurred the line between "BC" and "Fast BB"
but also her refit wasnt done cuz of the war. so, with the refit maybe she would have survived the encounter
RNG bot bismarck
who knows
No skill noob
She wouldnt
because it wasnt a deck penetration
it was a specific breach on the upper works of Hood's upper belt
Hood was designated as BC by the royal navy at time of her completion. The fast bb designation wasn’t really a thing back when hood was made.
She could. Shafts were worn out and if she had more speed there was a good chance bismarck would miss
And a specific angle that somehow by chance Bismarck's shell managed to land
neat, we know what it entails but it's not bannable, I like that
Like... man Hood got done dirty by luck itself
Yep, in battle.
Thats fair
Oh, yeah!
I personally always liked the stupid face of the character which depicts me sending 12 reports on the sub/cv that sunk me
Fraud I will say too
@coral herald I'm in port.
"Last stand"? pfft... more like a rabid animal getting put down by the Royal Navy
A lot of naval warfare is luck
I'll join you in 30 minutes if you will be playing by then
so, bismarck 41 or not bismarck 41, I'm on a fence
True but Bismarck got incredibly lucky
Duncan
Yeah I will.
no thanks, I'm thinking of joining rank soon, and this T8 would be cool
Duke of York didnt have luck on her side but she absolutely demolished Scharnhorst
Great, I'll. Let you know when I'm online
via radar guided fire
So did Ark Royal twice that same night
Alright.
Once after the goober nearly sunk their own cruiser than another with the rudder momento
yeah, cuz Schanrhorst's belt wasnt any BB size
Yeah I suppose its fair Bismarck's luck wouldve turned on her
but eventually ofc the torps finished her off
So did Sheffield lmao
Its actually thicker than the Bismarck on some localized areas
And the actual ship itself?
Sure she was lighter, but only by 3000 tonnes vs a KGV class BB
localized areas isnt particular, why the whole ship is a BB
And she covered a much larger footprint than a KGV too
and KGV had way thiccer belt armor
I honestly really like this camouflage for Benson guys.
Yeah thats what happens when you got actually good designers
Duke of York isnt even that bigger than Scharnhorst (in fact she's shorter)
shorter still doesnt mean scharnhorst is a BB either
Yet it was a onesided stomp 😎
its the overall package which counts
British efficiency baby!!!
I suppose that is true
her guns, her speed, her still light armor, compared to other BBs, all this fit
and overall package of scharnhorst is a bb
For what ship?
When a battlecruiser has to engage a ship she was not designed to engage, it turns out it would lose
Who'd've thunk it
But still its kinda hard to not take Scharnhorst as a mere BC when she's built like a BB
with peashooter guns
This is a nice one.
The KGV class
She’s a bb with small guns
despie all their flaws
her initial design was already a BC
I absolutely love how much they managed to squeeze out of the 35000 tonne limit
and only cuz they planned an upgunning to 38cm guns, doesnt make a BB
welp, died fast in my first game with cherb, I could have done better
the 14 inch guns hit as hard as many 15 inch guns
In plan Z she was designated as one of the 10 BBs commissioned, not the 4 BCs
15 inch belt armor
Bismarck was a seriously suboptimal design, change my mind
reliable guns by 1943
why would anyone do that
She was
bismark was garbage
And terrifying AA suite
no. her initial design even was a direct successor of Deutschland and called 1928 BC Design. they then only slightly altered this original design, to what Scharnhorst eventually became
When you haven’t been allowed to have a navy for 20 years your naval designers become ass
There are people that think it was a fantastic design
and that was already a bb
I like the KGVs for that reason, they have character
no
yes
1928 BC Design
at least her sister had torps
honest to the treaties (which I absolutely despise)
Hey nyanko.
yo
While everyone was cheating, KGV still kicked ass
And theyre lowkey useless lol
we got cucked and didn't see the amagis and tosas
Until wales kicked the bucket
She fell to airpower not BBs
Yes
And TBH Bismarck couldnt even shootdown a single biplane lol
Wales despite her malfunctioning radar
shot down 4 medium bombers
And had 80% of her crew survive
Her crew also evacuated the vessel
I mean how else would they have survived a sinking ship lol
Yes
leave battle button, trust
logout from life
interesting mm today
Return to port is the sauce
Yeah unfortunately 327 men aboard Wales did
Cant blame em tho torps are broken in 1941
"Hippity hoppity, your rudder is no longer your property" - the one Swordfish
(Depends on what side youre taking lel)
israel crusier line when
Taihou watching her pilot kamikaze into a torpedo to protect her only to sink anyway
The american sub torps sure were broken
Literally
Yes
I will hear no slander about the bureau of ordinance
They knew what they were doing
Trust

submarine torpedoes.
"we won't allow the VT fuse until it's 100% effective" clown ahh
(No my son you must use this torpedo model, it will finally work this time)
Those failed torpedos were flukes
world of duds
Well Amagi was... to put it, struck by an Act of God
sadly
The Big Man knew she'd be a problem if left to live
I honestly want to see Tosa in wows
surprised we haven't gotten her yet
but we got kii lmao
@river sonnet
Speaking of Jap ships, lowkey playing the Yamato in the PTS... it feels weird... to be smaller than all the paper ships around me knowing her IRL lore
We really should have saved the USS Barb
Would be interesting to see that proposed successor to the Kongo with dual and triple turrets
with the dual turrets having the triples super fire over them
Phew this was a close call, luck for me the enemy submarine was sunk in time.
normal, if you know the location she was built
How are you?
i can play Tosa alr, if i want 
Hello
Hey Akuseko.
I'm logging in Andrea
a bit criminal to have hunt for bismarck and miss destroyer menace called Piorun

that legend deserves its own event, not this bismarck crap
hate it here
AAAAAAAA
it should be an actual hunt event. 2 players as Eugen and Bismarck, the others as allies
and for like half of battle eugen is identified as bismarck :>
i can cit a valp in cherb huh
Agree, like a PVP operation
I want another blyskawica before piorun
sir there are like 3 błyskawica in-game
Me when choosing which blisk to choose
Wtf
błyskawica
błyskawica '41
and błyskawica 53 or smth?
same, but PVE i would like for Tokyo Express though. were you can join as ijn and deliver the troops in DDs or one CL/CA and the enemies are the allied cruiser forces
I'd like a girlfriend.
Some dreams are just that: dreams
and on the actual map
wonderfull, first round Benson today and i see an allied Valpappers, 
i can be a girlfoe
this is a service im willing to provide
I got enough foes as it is.
the more the merrier though
For you mayhaps.
What's a piorun
I'm not a hell but I could help you get away from a girl called menace
that small destroyer which went for brawling with biscuit
Honey badger of warships
"I am a Pole"
this game makes me want to die at times
my foes only empower me
which in turn grants me more foes
ergo
Mine make me miserable. I'd rather not be miserable.
wasn't there more actions like this?
haha 'pole'

i work customer service so i have a very high tolerance of being bullshitted
well it's one of those. Laffey too was amazing with her Hiei drive-by
and many intrusive thoughts
what if instead of foes it was toes
your toe privileges are revoked
Table stabbing increases
ugh when did feet guys came here...
@coral herald I'm in port.
corner *
we'd be throwing lego pieces at each other instead of shells
coming to VC?
Yes.
The ones that miss become environmental hazards
for best effect
starting to like french BCs
Cherbourg also goes in this category, does she not?
the TT ships I mean
it does not say bremerton_feet_sweat
thats gross
of course

he has standards
not sure thigh sweat better
it doesn't go to the feet
which has a lot of bacteria
and many pores
i dont wanne find out, where it originated from though

also feet texture sucks
- don't feet go into boots which can be huge bacteria bomb
said that already
~~new nickname: "bremerton_shoulder_masssage"
~~
u said feet
i said boots 2 diffrent stuff
more like
Bowpillows ._.

bobs?
I like helena
~~what next, "torpedo bulges"
~~

shouldn't have asked tbh
I should really make a song playlist when I play wows
we already did it
this is why i cant buy a pc
wdym
ram used for Ai slop
nothing as sweet as strawberry kitten
no, we aint gonna eat kittens
but sweet, since strawberry

sadly
allat for a 
the standards prob got higher in all honesty
WTF
Bruh...
it happens
Yeah.
back to playing vns
what vns? on switch?
Hey Bremerton.
pc
geezus, another round in Benson, where i wanne rip my hair out
and only 9 boosts left
crappy visual novels
What do you think mehfia?
Thanks, I also remained alive for very close.
hi andrea
oh now im really curious
I say it's crappy because koikatsu models and cheesy plot
~~what is even vns? ~~
visual novel
oh. the not so good type? 
yep
little joke: could have said you play Azur Lane, we all understand it
(srry)
I actually don't lol
not, but you get the joke do you
some jokes are just a stealth bomber, they fly overhead and I don't even notice it
@coral herald But yeah I really hope I can get better.
Me too. We will
i mean, still funny. like AL is basically just a "certain visual novel" theese days

#Teamplay101

tell me why whenever i play on my main account i have 0 pr 4k damage shigure game
and whenever i play on my alt i get 150k tempesta nera game
Disgusting creatures
it genuinely makes me want to scream
I'm pretty sure it was a dying one too
They have no right being able to scurry the way they do when they can get as big as they can
im starting to get to the point where im just gonna start spamming games
Or being able to fucking fly
and whatever happens happens
i reached that point 5 years ago
zui im so fucking bad
Roaches being able to fly just makes them an Avengers level threat
i was doing good for a while but then i was in the hospital and then i had a near death experience with medicine and now i'm playing REALLY REALLY bad
like i genuinely killed some brain cells
You might still be high
Kitakami deadass trying
Or whatever you were from the dregs
Also I ended dinner.
So I'm coming back.
what dd to farm torp hits in ops with
If fixed is accurate lmao
not jager
@honest silo come to VC
Jager, Shima, Hayate
Thor :D
karl
Mutsu
???????
almost forgot to switch gamemodes and queue into randoms as a solo la pampa
god have mercy if you actually queued into a match
And then it drops Tokyo Express

Wait until one of the DDs in the second wave spawn died then dump all your torps to its spawn direction
But yeah I will for sure keep working on improving.
isn't tokyo express the night map with musashi
Yep
that one sucked as a DD
That one is notoriously difficult as a torp DD
Gunboat DDs fare a bit better though
Hey Andrea.

