game-discussion

[boreal fable]

every single vincent player I see doesnt know the 2 key on their keyboard exists

[serene chasm]

They can’t do shit to it and get obliterated

[boreal fable]

even in my san martussy

[unique hemlock]

I got an E badge on stock Allende in the very first battle I ran her in Randoms. Complete with two CVs each side.

[eager pumice]

@warm pier Asia is such a suicide rush hell that every time I try to play a T7 cruiser I get a match like this

I know this is a loss but I'm 67% WR overall today and every single match is horrendously tryhard deep purple so I never get a single normal battle

[livid bridge]

Fym longer fuse, its copypasta wooster ap in terms of arming

[honest silo]

What ship is Allende?

[eager pumice]

My server is too bad at the game to give me an actual fight

[serene chasm]

San Martin is a fucking rat ship

[boreal fable]

yipee, tjhats aweomse goodjob sir

[tawdry turret]

pans ams t8 tech

[serene chasm]

It does 0 damage

Refuses to die

[plush smelt]

that's just low tier

[eager pumice]

IT'S TIER 9 LMAO

[boreal fable]

Simply untrue

[eager pumice]

IT'S ASIA T9

[honest silo]

Ah, ok thanks.

[plush smelt]

i tried playing t8 yesterday and got aids

[eager pumice]

THAT'S THE PROBLEM

[serene chasm]

And just annoys the hell out of you all game

[eager pumice]

The higher in tier I go the more awful it gets

[plush smelt]

why dont u just migrate to EU

[eager pumice]

This server plays like midrush bots

[boreal fable]

I nearly dev struck a mino if that fcking bungo didnt exist bro'd be cooked

[serene chasm]

I don’t think I’ve even been scared of a Martin

[boreal fable]

ahhh I wish

[serene chasm]

I usually just let them shoot at me

[unique hemlock]

Tier VIII tech tree PanAm cruiser

[serene chasm]

I end up taking basically no damage

[boreal fable]

Martin is shit in the same way alvaro is shit, the boat is fucking cracked but the people playing it are turbo ass

[honest silo]

Should I maybe give a try to Pan American tech tree or better no?

[serene chasm]

Remind me

[boreal fable]

Are you good at the game?

Honestly

[serene chasm]

The best way I’ve seen a smaland played

[boreal fable]

San martin is impossible if you're average or even below average

[gloomy hare]

Soomeone slide me sum doubloons!!!!!

[serene chasm]

Is by holding W and left click

[gloomy hare]

please i srsly need this

😭 😭

[shadow rose]

los andes is spanish for the andes

[serene chasm]

Dude got top of the team and a kraken by doing that 💀 💀 💀

[eager pumice]

@plush smelt Solo on Asia btw

I literally never get a normal game

every match is tryharding in a suicide rush meta

[honest silo]

Still improving, but just not a fan of Pan American ships.

[boreal fable]

truuly a smaland moment

[serene chasm]

Fr

[eager pumice]

I'm not even that good

[honest silo]

I see.

[serene chasm]

Literally did not disengage

Only time he stopped firing was when he killed everything in his range

[honest silo]

I see.

[boreal fable]

What do you enjoy

[limpid lodge]

Wisconsin Platinum with money purchase only unique upgrade when?

[boreal fable]

I want grau so badly dawgs

[shadow rose]

so yes you should grind to los andes then build the ship for guns but the cmdr for secs (hybrid build) and wild out

as one does

[unique hemlock]

It’s ok. That combat instruction’s a rather funny gimmick but sometimes can be difficult to play around.

Ain’t anything more annoying than losing a PanAm cruiser combat instruction at 99% because you can’t shoot anyone anymore.

[honest silo]

Italian, Pan Asian as I like the Teng She, Commonwealth, Italy, France, United Kingdom, USA, Pan European, Germany, I wanted to try Dutch ships and the Spain one.

[honest silo]

I prefer avoid the secondary one tbh.

[honest silo]

What do you mean?

[livid bridge]

San Martin design wise is just peak gaming

[boreal fable]

What ships and ship classes specifically

[boreal fable]

Literally

[honest silo]

CV, BB, CA, CL, DD and Sub pretty much.

[eternal bear]

Tale summed up in a photo

[honest silo]

As I would for sure try italian submarine.

[boreal fable]

Please bro don't bully me like thie

[shell temple]

EUs finest BB players

[boreal fable]

Cringe cv gaming

[honest silo]

That's what I'm currently learning and improving.

[boreal fable]

Which is your favourite, just one

[honest silo]

USA BB.

[eager pumice]

the fun news is I can blackmail swifacid now

[plush smelt]

lmao 7 min kraken

[boreal fable]

I see

[honest silo]

I really like the Montana line.

[shell temple]

oops realised there was somethign wrong with the recording 💀

[eager pumice]

and of course this was another crazy asia rush mid match

[unique hemlock]

A lot of PanAm ships are balanced around their funny button and most of them require offensive action to charge and enhance a parameter on a ship temporarily (exceptions being Almirante Grau and La Pampa).

[eager pumice]

cruisers in the caps 3min into the game

[unique hemlock]

That was my first Tier X. Still a hella solid ship.

[eternal bear]

Listen... do i get a pass its a Floof CV

[drifting marlin]

"offensive action" (a single enemy exists in secondary range for 10 seconds)

[unique hemlock]

[honest silo]

Ah, so not worth if I go only for main gun? As that's what I wanted to do on my Valparaiso.

[river dune]

how is grau an exception? you have no DPM outside your funny button, but it's easy to charge up

[drifting marlin]

the exception is that grau's funny button charges passively i think is what he means

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[drifting marlin]

whereas most of the other panam ships have to land hits or something to charge it

[boreal fable]

Ah okay thats great, the usual cycle of wows players is bb > ca > cl > dd, or if you're like one of those bb>cv>men kissing

[unique hemlock]

You gotta stay undetected for 50 seconds to charge it, not like “shoot people”, “get shot at”, “sink someone”, etc.

Exactly what zuiKatsu said

[eternal bear]

^
Pampa and grau gain charge from not being spotted

[unique hemlock]

When I say an offensive or defensive instruction, I refer to how to charge it, not what it does.

[shadow rose]

thats the best part, its really a main gun build

[eternal bear]

Peak name.

[honest silo]

Isn't the Lod Andes/Libertad secondary focused?

[shadow rose]

https://tenor.com/view/bowing-thank-you-tom-and-jerry-take-a-bow-chasing-gif-17838160168594208358

[eternal bear]

Verrg much so

[boreal fable]

No

[plush smelt]

might have been a bit of a carry idk

[eternal bear]

You ready for this new UR event in AL

[unique hemlock]

Maybe I should do that… keep commander for secondaries but build main-guns with the upgrades.

Ipiranga

[honest silo]

Nice.

[shadow rose]

los andes doesnt have to be, the 381s slap

[eternal bear]

But... but floofy shinano...

[honest silo]

I see.

I think maybe Pan American ships aren't for me.

[eternal bear]

Your monty was doing work

[plush smelt]

TRUE

we were like 4v7

no wait

[eternal bear]

What do you like doing?

[boreal fable]

What is flooft

Floofy

[plush smelt]

5v7 I think i cant remember

but yeah we needed him

[eternal bear]

Oh do you not play azurlane?

[boreal fable]

Oh cv and azure lane

[honest silo]

Sniping and the tanks build that is main gun focused.

[boreal fable]

Hope might be lost for bro

[eternal bear]

Kremlin

[plush smelt]

i think that's my t10 damage record

[eternal bear]

And im a vtuber and trans fem
Im ticking all the boxes

[honest silo]

Yeah like that, Slava, Preussen, Montana and Wisconsin.

[unique hemlock]

Not even lying here, the biggest reason I like the combat instructions is mostly the cosmetic effect. Those searchlights just look really cool and the sound on activation is pretty neat.

As for what the actual instruction itself does, obviously depends on the ship.

[honest silo]

Which cosmetic effect?

Just curious.

[unique hemlock]

Do you play Hearts of Iron IV?

[boreal fable]

Goodluck.

[honest silo]

I do tbh.

[eternal bear]

I would say try the Uhhh Russian heavys

[boreal fable]

I'll be sure to pray for you

[eternal bear]

I have it but no

[honest silo]

I will and thanks.

[unique hemlock]

I’ma take a picture of the searchlights on various ships and post ‘em here later.

[Search Tag] for later so I can drop a reply easier lol

[unique hemlock]

Dammit almost another box…

[boreal fable]

How exactly does trans work, do you just wake up one day and decide you're s girl now?

[honest silo]

Roger and thanks.

[obsidian oriole]

When combat instructions are used, the spotlights on ships turn on

[honest silo]

I honestly played quite a lot HoI IV.

[obsidian oriole]

And an alarm rings

[boreal fable]

The spotlights on the superstructure turn in and it makes a satisfying sound

[honest silo]

I see and nice.

[unique hemlock]

They mean Shinano btw, the Azur Lane character is a fox girl with massive fox tails, hence that nickname “floof”.

[honest silo]

I don't know if Valparaiso have it.

I honestly never checked that much the phew time I used her.

[boreal fable]

That's just worse because shinano is especially annoying as a cv

[boreal fable]

Does yeah

[eternal bear]

Ill sum it up line this.
Its mostly your not comfortable in your own body/or not comfortable with assigned gender at birth

[eternal bear]

We need amagi cv...

[boreal fable]

Okay but over how long do you make this decision

[untold thistle]

Akagi?

[tawdry turret]

fairly odd topic we have here

[boreal fable]

And changing your title doesn't change your anatomy you're still in the same body

[eternal bear]

Honestly? Depends on the person tbf

[honest silo]

I see and thanks.

[untold thistle]

Not one I'd play around with

[eternal bear]

No amagi CV

[untold thistle]

Akagi is closest

[eternal bear]

True. I suppose

[azure marten]

I feel like this might be a touchy subject for game discussy

👀

[honest silo]

Yeah, I only had done 2 Battle with Valparaiso.

[eternal bear]

Mostly gender affirming surgery and HRT helps with that

[boreal fable]

I think if you're uncomfortable in your body it's better to accept yourself and work on self confidence than it is to suddenly switch idenity

[tawdry turret]

game discussy

[boreal fable]

Its pretty boring hih

I like ships that require skill

[honest silo]

For the major I didn't had fun with her with all honesty DoctroRyzen.

[boreal fable]

I want to be able to reflect my skill in my end results not that I have a stupid busted boat

[eternal bear]

Oh I was making a comment and they were asking and I dont mind awnsering

[honest silo]

Yeah same as I like to learn and improve.

[untold thistle]

Valp is too lenient in all honesty

[unique hemlock]

I’d suggest you two take that convo to DMs. It has quite an extensively volatile political and social discourse in the modern era…

[boreal fable]

Have you done Minotaur line?

[untold thistle]

So that's really valid

[boreal fable]

Or jinan

[untold thistle]

Radar mino is skill based

[eternal bear]

Whwre is my taihou

[boreal fable]

Its just those lines teach you to avoid blowing up

[honest silo]

Nope, had started the Conqueror line.

[boreal fable]

Eventually they teach us at least

[untold thistle]

Soon, she already has a model so we just have to wait

[boreal fable]

Ah I love conqueror

[azure marten]

yeah what stevemc01 said, the convo could turn political real fast, just figured id mention something before shit hits the fan and mods get involved

mods get involved and then people get trapped in muted land

[eternal bear]

She was in testing iirc

[honest silo]

Who, just for know stevemc?

[honest silo]

Nice.

[boreal fable]

This conversation ended ages ago, we can drop it now

[untold thistle]

One thing I find funny is that they still are victims of smoke devstrikes

[unique hemlock]

With the Russians (Lesta)

[eternal bear]

Oh I know it was how they replied, they (imo) were mostly curious and didnt bring any of that into the convo. If it was brought in I would of dropped the convo

[boreal fable]

Oh yeah that's top 5 most frustrating experience of woes (not including cv or sub encounters)

[honest silo]

But yeah I'm currently doing as grind Midway, Essex, Vermont, Louisiana, Worcester, Gearing, Burrows and Balao line DoctorRyzen.

[lusty lagoon]

is bro actually suggesting one of the hardest lines in the game to someone without good enough game sense 💀

[boreal fable]

Wow like at the same time

[azure marten]

I saw a radar mino get first blood devstruck in spawn by a Vermont yesterday

[lusty lagoon]

andrea is def not ready for that

[boreal fable]

I didn't recommend it i just asked

[untold thistle]

It's kinda funny to do, I see that the shell tracers haven't moved and I will blindfire

[eternal bear]

Loui is getting buffed

[boreal fable]

I dev struck a laffy in his smoke in my castilla lels

I love castilla

[honest silo]

For the major for Essex, Worcester and Gearing yes as I reached USS Cleveland CL-55 yesterday.

[lusty lagoon]

oh lol

[honest silo]

Nice.

[boreal fable]

Ah yeah I got worry and sold it soon later because its just so lame ngl, the 9km radar is hard to use when everything is designed for 10km radar

[eternal bear]

Yodo leg mod when

[noble grove]

Been a while since I played this, Wasn't there this Well Deserved reward for players accounts hitting a certain milestone for years that it was with WOWS

[boreal fable]

I can't recommend you any cvs because I don't play that but I think Hindenburg and yueyang are two lines to look into, @honest silo

[eternal bear]

Hindy is really good!

[tawdry turret]

yes

[eternal bear]

Essex line is verry good too

[noble grove]

what was it called again? , I can't remember it

[winter fjord]

I have a broken idea a toggle version of radar/hydro

[livid bridge]

More like a fxp sink

[eternal bear]

Do not touch the British CVS what ever you do

[livid bridge]

Just to fill out the port

[lucid wagon]

British CVs mentioned

5 more nerfs to Colossus

Every time a British CV shows an ounce of potential it must be brutally struck down with the might of gof

God

[edgy marten]

just put a cooldown between toggles

[river dune]

british cv's are fine if you have hands

rockets are very strong

[boreal fable]

I prefer my cv with 4s reload dpm guns and no planes

[winter fjord]

I like indomable

[tawdry turret]

rudy

[lucid wagon]

Hello

[eternal bear]

Iurc best fighters at t10 no?

Iirc*

[honest silo]

I will and thanks, I at last have USS Laffey DD-724 that is a sister of Yueyang if different in playstyle.

[livid bridge]

Idk, still F tier line to get

[eternal bear]

Its one of the better lines imo

[livid bridge]

Fxp it if you have nothing bettet to do, solely to pad shipcount for anniversary

Otherwise pointless

[boreal fable]

Ah yeah yueyang is much different, depending on how you build it yueyang is one of the best dd hunters in the game

[eternal bear]

Good rockets
Good bombs
Okay torps

[plush smelt]

idk about that

[eternal bear]

Would rather play it over midway

[boreal fable]

I do

[river dune]

essex has "okay torps" but good rockets?

[livid bridge]

I would rather play neither

Both F tier

[edgy marten]

True, CVs are automatically F tier

[eternal bear]

Unless they nerffed the essex

[eternal bear]

Im.bias to the rockets okay

[edgy marten]

also, Essex torps are good

iirc

[livid bridge]

Major downside: is carrier

Straight to F tier

[honest silo]

Yeah radar and deepwater torpedo a part before I mean that Yueyang is a Allen M. Sumner-Class and former USS Haynsworth DD-700.

[boreal fable]

I'd rather be in a yy than a ragnar, but something like smaland and z 47 are better

[edgy marten]

but what about being Dutch

[wheat cobalt]

good is an understatement

[edgy marten]

and not having airstrike

[river dune]

they're extremely strong, you can 1 torp squad a dd at the start of the game with no real effort

[eternal bear]

Kearsarge enjoyer

[honest silo]

Hey Hot_Potato_Gruel.

[boreal fable]

Very cool stuff my dude

[eternal bear]

I csnt hit Essex torps but I can hit shinano torps

Wth is wrong w me

[lucid wagon]

You don’t know the definition of good to be making a comment

[livid bridge]

You play carriers

[wheat cobalt]

I know all the good cars

[honest silo]

Hey SymboliRudolf.

[boreal fable]

Gronigen?

[wheat cobalt]

rah

[lucid wagon]

Hello

[plush smelt]

groningen has to be the worst ship in the game

it's so miserable to play

[wheat cobalt]

Gron is ok but Sherman exists

lmao

[boreal fable]

In comparison to what

[honest silo]

Well I will be back later guys, cya and have fun.

[wheat cobalt]

and sherman is basically gron on crack

[lucid wagon]

Sevastopol, Slava, uhh idfk the Cerberus line

[eternal bear]

Ehh... its good at farming and 1v1s on dds that dont have sonar or radar

[plush smelt]

everything else

[boreal fable]

Gron prints better credits

[wheat cobalt]

Indiana, Vermont, Napoli, San Martan

[boreal fable]

I disagree

[lucid wagon]

Another thing is that F. Sherman players become even dumber

After graduating from Groningen

[plush smelt]

tier for tier sherman is lowkey way better

[wheat cobalt]

well duh

[livid bridge]

Oben water LMB holder would never make people dumber

[wheat cobalt]

we love funny ballistics + sap

and halsey

kek

[eternal bear]

I hate Sherman

[wheat cobalt]

oh and now you have engine boost

truly

[eternal bear]

Rather play my leg mod z52

[plush smelt]

shit conceal and zero speed is a terrible combination

[livid bridge]

Oh ye Sherman mentioned

[boreal fable]

Is it really open water if you're always in a smoke

[livid bridge]

I skipped SI cuz I barely smoke

[plush smelt]

me too

[livid bridge]

2 smokes is enough

[plush smelt]

i get like 20 seconds of value out of each smoke idk why

[livid bridge]

Just hold LMB without smog rah

Not like there are any threats to your presence

[lucid wagon]

I think yall are forgetting the best T10 ship; La Pampa

[boreal fable]

Why not just play hull then

[edgy marten]

openwater Sherman clearly the new meta

[livid bridge]

Dpm low

[eternal bear]

Hear me out
Kitakami

[edgy marten]

all the Hull gamers in shambles

)

[honest silo]

Groningen is Dutch right?

[livid bridge]

Sherman mogs hull for free

[boreal fable]

A take so hot my hands started burning

[tawdry turret]

yes

[boreal fable]

Fair enough

[edgy marten]

hey Andrea

[eternal bear]

Just play barbino at that point

[tawdry turret]

[edgy marten]

no one wants to play Barbiano

[livid bridge]

Very gamer car, most played 2024 ship for me

[wheat cobalt]

that one is a different can of worms

[honest silo]

Thanks _Kowatori.

[edgy marten]

it's just...not what it's cracked up to be

[lucid wagon]

Another slept on wows T10 DD; Z-52, another op DD

[wheat cobalt]

hull is stupid

it just is

[eternal bear]

Leg mod or not

[tawdry turret]

Z-52 is

[lucid wagon]

No legmod

Super op

[eternal bear]

im a leg mod enjoyer...

[tawdry turret]

LM Z52 my goat

[honest silo]

Z-52 is tech tree if I remember correctly?

[lucid wagon]

Yes

[boreal fable]

47 is objectively superior

[eternal bear]

Yes.
42 is steel

[lucid wagon]

It relies on others being idiots

[edgy marten]

there is no such thing as Z47

[lucid wagon]

Z-44 > Z-52 > Z-42

[honest silo]

Aren't both Z-42 and Z-44 Doubloons?

[lucid wagon]

Fight me

[boreal fable]

42 i meant

[lucid wagon]

Objectively ur wrong

[atomic stone]

Ok

[eternal bear]

42 is steel
44 is dubs

[boreal fable]

Okay so you're w torp boater huh

[lucid wagon]

The Z-44 has super op torpedoes w: super op fund

Guns

[lusty lagoon]

nope Z-42 is the funny steel dd

[lucid wagon]

Mega huge health

[wheat cobalt]

me when I put t7 at t9

rah

[tawdry turret]

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[honest silo]

I see.

[eternal bear]

Speaking off steel ships

[tawdry turret]

[eternal bear]

Incomp
Z42 or
Pioneer

[lucid wagon]

Pioneer

[livid bridge]

10 year highlight hit preety hard 🔥

[boreal fable]

Z 44 has op guns? The tier 9 coal dd?

[wheat cobalt]

Incomp is the funniest

[lucid wagon]

Yes they have 700k Dpm

[plush smelt]

LMAO salem thought he could 1v1 a hawaii

[lucid wagon]

It’s like one click and the DD dies

[eternal bear]

All are paper thin

[boreal fable]

What.

[lucid wagon]

Incomp bots ruining my game

[honest silo]

Just curious guys.

[boreal fable]

700k? Numbers are lowkey spawning in wtf

[tawdry turret]

then be the Incom

[honest silo]

There aren't that many good German Destroyers right?

[boreal fable]

Wait am I being baited rn

[lucid wagon]

Z-44 has out Dpm Hawaii and Colbert at the same time on a video.

It is insanely overpowered. Needs a nerf.

[boreal fable]

To clarify, the tier 9 coal dd focused on torps?

[lucid wagon]

Yes

It’s torpedoes do 37k per btw

101 knots

[boreal fable]

Oh yeah really

[lucid wagon]

1.4 million total alpha strike

Yeah

[analog jackal]

yeah

[boreal fable]

Wow maybe I should get it huh

[lucid wagon]

Yeah you should

You’re missing out man

[boreal fable]

Nah bro what is this

[analog jackal]

u should its the best tier IX in the game

[wheat cobalt]

all Z-44 gamers went to Jager

[lucid wagon]

Jager propagandist lies

[eternal bear]

^

[boreal fable]

I'm not a fish why am I getting baited

[plush smelt]

jager should not exist

[lucid wagon]

See you agree with me

[plush smelt]

actual pest

[lucid wagon]

Thank you

[honest silo]

Hey Sharkheadbob.

[analog jackal]

hello

[honest silo]

Why? Just for know.

[eternal bear]

Yeah we will sat thag

[plush smelt]

it's annoying to fight

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see and yeah true.

[untold thistle]

Jagers are selfish by nature

[boreal fable]

I've dev struck 3 jagers today

[wheat cobalt]

rah

[tawdry turret]

I am a Jager player myself
It is fucking annoying to run against with the small detectability and fast chipping torpa

[plush smelt]

i fought a bluenicum jager just now and it made me mald 😢

[boreal fable]

The better kitakami

[lucid wagon]

By the way, nobody else should be disagreeing with my opinion. I have 89.2% winrate. (32% winrate over 1,783 solo battle, 20 PR; 95.73% winrate in triple divs, 27,832 battles, 709 pr)

[wheat cobalt]

the briish

[untold thistle]

Disappointed in you

[plush smelt]

but he said gg wp so lowkey W

[lucid wagon]

Barfleur is really good.

Far too overpowered as well.

[livid bridge]

AL Jager next year

[eternal bear]

Lowest detextr dd at t10
Or 9 iirc
Then has 4? Sets of torps.
That reload in less then a minute

[lucid wagon]

Barfleur -> Ragnar + Smaland AT ONXE

[honest silo]

If I'm not wrong Jager main gun aren't that good?

[tawdry turret]

yes

[wheat cobalt]

ah yes

the only t9 torp DD

[eternal bear]

I dont think AL Jager exists?

[untold thistle]

Jager plays for torps

[boreal fable]

Yugumo?

[honest silo]

I see.

[lucid wagon]

Second lowest detect in the game w/ shitty torpedoes that reload every like 70s or sum bullshit

[boreal fable]

Chung mu

[plush smelt]

lowkey DM/Salem are the easiest ship to have game impact in

[lucid wagon]

Also has a heal and speed boost

[wheat cobalt]

nuh

[boreal fable]

Any cv ever:

[wheat cobalt]

shima line doesn't exist

[unique hemlock]

I still goof up with Salem…

[plush smelt]

just shove an island and survive

[lucid wagon]

On a real note why the fuck would you ever get this ship 😭I own it as well

It’s so dogshit

[eternal bear]

Isint the lowest the 3 kamikazi clones

[lucid wagon]

No

[livid bridge]

I said next year not this year

[lucid wagon]

Shigure

[tawdry turret]

lowest is Shigure now

5.2

[boreal fable]

Wdym it has the highest torp dpm even at super tier

[eternal bear]

Oh damn

[tawdry turret]

recently released

[honest silo]

Wait Barfleur isn't good?

[boreal fable]

And its faster than kleber

[lucid wagon]

No lmao

[eternal bear]

As of rn im saying

[boreal fable]

And has plane melting aa

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[untold thistle]

Barfleur has the kitakami gimmic of reloading some torps

[tardy tree]

hmm smol update

[untold thistle]

But not all at once

[livid bridge]

Tachibana is 5,2km before CE so

[lucid wagon]

Successive torpedo reloading

[boreal fable]

What is even in this update man

[honest silo]

I see.

[steel pier]

looks like once human update xd

[lucid wagon]

Aka automatically ass

[honest silo]

Hey yxlouvia.

[lucid wagon]

Barfleur has literally negative Dpm to defend itself + it has successive torpedo reloading (43.6s)

[tardy tree]

i cut the wrong part .d

[boreal fable]

Effectively cassard does that

[steel pier]

anyways, ello

[untold thistle]

Cassard has usable guns

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[livid bridge]

You either have workable guns or you are in torpboat hell

[boreal fable]

Huuuuh, simply cao cassard doesn't have grozovoi dpm eith basically railguns

[livid bridge]

Unfort

[lucid wagon]

I’m pretty sure Barfleur has worse Dpm then Jager… yeah

[boreal fable]

The single lowest at its tier

Tragedy

[lucid wagon]

Torpboats are just inherently kinda bad

[eternal bear]

Hmm

[lucid wagon]

And then the fact it literally cannot kill or damage anything else e/ guns

In

lol

[eternal bear]

Whaf coal ship do I get next

[untold thistle]

Shimakaze statistics agree

[boreal fable]

Especially in this game of world of earplanes

[untold thistle]

Spin a wheel

[lucid wagon]

The most op coal ship ever.. Duke of YOrk.

[untold thistle]

Duke of dork

[eternal bear]

T10 wise

[boreal fable]

Groningen

[lucid wagon]

How much coal do you have

[boreal fable]

Napoli

[lucid wagon]

What do you already own

[untold thistle]

Get defence, trust

Is defence even still in the armory

[lucid wagon]

Now you’ll see a bunch of fucking bots tell you to get Napoli but you should get Alvaro de Bazan

Trust

[eternal bear]

Napoli
Yoshino
Sherman

[lucid wagon]

G. kurfurst is your best bet..

In a real note

[untold thistle]

Unique commander is dropping soon so it's not even a bad proposition

[lucid wagon]

Marceau or Alvaro for DD, Salem for CA

Oh wait

They don’t have Moskva

Get Moskva (literally the worlds most boring fucking cruiser ever but it’s good)

[eternal bear]

I don't like the Playstyle of moskva

[unique hemlock]

I’ve heard unsubstantiated rumors Le Hardi’s coming back for coal??

(EDIT) Le HAVRE, not HARDI lol

[eternal bear]

Its... TT? No?

[livid bridge]

A trchtree ship

[azure marten]

aint le hardi the tech tree t7 of the cassard line

[wheat cobalt]

it is

[eternal bear]

It is

[unique hemlock]

Le Havre, fuck

Not Hardi

[eternal bear]

Oh

[unique hemlock]

The large cruiser with the secondaries button.

I mixed them up.

Le Hardi’s that Tier VII DD

[eternal bear]

They both start with L and H

[unique hemlock]

Le Ha

[eternal bear]

Yeah XD

[lucid wagon]

Do you mean Le Havre

[topaz coyote]

Napoli is probably one of the easiest to kill cruisers

[lucid wagon]

Le Havre for coal 2027

[wheat cobalt]

alvarus

[lucid wagon]

Tankiest cruiser ingame (still eats 20k to a over matching Bb)

[eternal bear]

Press w and win type ah attitude ship

[topaz coyote]

Shiptool survival rate told me

[unique hemlock]

Havre, apparently.

Ya know what? It’s just rumors and I don’t wanna get my hopes up lol

[honest silo]

Understood.

[undone mesa]

When Jager b

[eternal bear]

never

G8ve me lushun b back

[eternal bear]

Hey uh
I think your dead

[eager pumice]

statshames @rustic hearth

[cold geyser]

not me lol

[eager pumice]

look at this dude 🫵

[azure marten]

thats the bot carrier in ultimate frontier

[unique hemlock]

Ranger having a moment

[eager pumice]

bow in to 1/3 the enemy team on the midline

[untold thistle]

In hood

[eager pumice]

in true asia fashion
both teams have had cruisers rush the caps and die 3min in

[untold thistle]

Swif, what are you doing buddy

[eager pumice]

because the w key is strong in this place

[unique hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/nukes-castle-bravo-explosion-explosive-diarrhea-hydrogen-gif-12847579549557055299

[plush smelt]

fml I threw the game after getting 280k damage

couldve been a 400k

[livid bridge]

Get the batons purple boys

[plush smelt]

2 full bbs left to farm 😭

[eager pumice]

I carried that match btw

[void relic]

not playing fuso

reported

[unique hemlock]

Absolute gaming

[eager pumice]

yeah I actually got reported for this round
the enemy was so mad at me

their CV hovered me half the game

[void relic]

gg

[livid bridge]

Swift reported you for statshaming

[honest silo]

Hey EmpressCheshire.

[livid bridge]

Valid

[edgy marten]

Clubbing innocent T5s 😔

[eager pumice]

it's the Asia "rush mid, get beaten by anyone with a brain, and cry loudly" meta

[livid bridge]

Me when online game behaves like online game

[plush smelt]

crazy comms in the chat

[unique hemlock]

“Hey guys did you know if you present yourself to a lot of guns, you tend to die?”

[plush smelt]

W

my teammates never listen to me

[untold thistle]

There's a good chance they don't speak English

Or don't care

[eager pumice]

WoWs players be like
(Sails into the middle of the map) "WHY AM I BEING SHOT AT"

[unique hemlock]

shoots enemy
gets shot back
gets mad

[lucid wagon]

Me when I charge the flank of 5 ships in a Des Moines and wonder why I immediately died

[livid bridge]

Tbh the report is propably for spamming english in chat

[unique hemlock]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[livid bridge]

[unique hemlock]

TrulySpecimens of this game

https://tenor.com/view/brain-no-way-iq-what-gif-25841858

Like actually.

i was decoi

[honest silo]

One thing for avoid getting sunk fast if already at red in the health bar is stop shooting at the enemy for don't be detected.

[light harbor]

Me watching a destroyer open up in front of 5 enemy ships and then wondering why they died:

[eternal bear]

Work is genuinely boring rn

[unique hemlock]

“I’m gonna shoot back anyway because dammit I’m gonna get that damage.”
“WHY DID HE KILL ME? That’s not fair.”

[eternal bear]

"Gg no support"

[unique hemlock]

I’m trying to survive my last finals this week after goofing one of them up.

[honest silo]

That's not a good way.

[light harbor]

Also me watching a battleship prekite into Narnia and then complain that the destroyer isn't spotting:

[eternal bear]

Or they hide behind islands...

[light harbor]

Or that

Can't have the paint scratched

[honest silo]

But yeah I'm currently working in positiong, aiming. survive and so on.

[eternal bear]

Ive had so many times where I was front line and the bbs were still at I line

[tawdry turret]

quite odd for NA

[neon oracle]

|| Hi Andrea||

[unique hemlock]

Oh also a rather remarkable moment happened. A GQ Johnny went into a cap and just requested me (a Yamato) and an Alsace support him.

The enemy was rolling two cruisers, two battleships, and a Lushun on that flank. I told him to get back like 4 times and then one more time right before he got spotted.

Of course, I tried to shoot the Lushun, but GQ basically suicided for that and said in all chat “GG my teammates are lame”

[tawdry turret]

thats an Asia thing

[unique hemlock]

The whole time before he died, he was spamming F5 (Requesting Assistance!)

[honest silo]

Hey Sir_Snarf.

[honest silo]

What is quite odd? Just curious.

[light harbor]

Average GQ Johnny player

[tawdry turret]

corner snipers

[wheat cobalt]

ok but

how do you win a game?

[livid bridge]

People playing badly is not odd for any server

[rustic hearth]

||The game||

[livid bridge]

So ye

[eternal bear]

Have you heard of NA's cryptid of GP1

[light harbor]

Try not losing

[eager pumice]

I rush
🔄
I die
🔄
This cannot possibly be my fault

[honest silo]

Oh, ok.

[tawdry turret]

GP1 is already a topic here

[unique hemlock]

I got two battles on that thing with one being a last-stand loss.

I haven’t rolled her out since. :P

[light harbor]

GQ is pretty good

[eternal bear]

He was h line with radar mino

[unique hemlock]

Yeah, but freemium means most people won’t play her correctly.

[light harbor]

It's just that she was given away for free so most people who play her are horrifically bad

[tawdry turret]

one of us even spotted him not playing mino

[honest silo]

One curiosity guys.

[unique hemlock]

I logged two purple battles on her.

[tawdry turret]

[light harbor]

GQ with RPF is a very potent destroyer hunter

[unique hemlock]

And then never ran her again.

[eternal bear]

Halland

[honest silo]

Johnston is one of the only Destroyer in game in Measure 21?

[severe plank]

I keep seeing gunboat DDs think they can take on cruisers like Jinana and Hawaii within 8km and think they can survive

[unique hemlock]

I should look into doing that…

[austere heath]

Is Tirpitz better than Bismarck?

[light harbor]

Hold on I'll dig up my build for her

[unique hemlock]

I only got like 10-14 pts last I remember.

[light harbor]

Not enough to be significant outside of brawls

[full pine]

hi autisms

[full pine]

theyre pretty even iirc

[full pine]

her burst is nice

[light harbor]

Indeed

[livid bridge]

I sense a pattern emerging here ngl

[honest silo]

Hey shima.

[livid bridge]

The X in "it was distributed in an X way, so people play it horribly" seems to have a really broad range of possibilities

[severe plank]

They should give out GK for free in an event

Trust me it’s a good idea

[tawdry turret]

[light harbor]

It's also usually true

[plush smelt]

opinions on kremlin?

[light harbor]

Not really fun in randoms usually

[grizzled relic]

lured a dellware close enough for seconderys and blasted the fuck out of him

[livid bridge]

It makes me suspect that the acquisition method is not that relevant and people just play everything badly

[wheat cobalt]

Kreml is great

[light harbor]

That may also be true

[unique hemlock]

Secondaries-built Shinano is the goofiest thing ever.

[light harbor]

Looks at average winrate in WoWS being below 50%

[grizzled relic]

fork found in kitchen

[wheat cobalt]

yes

[grizzled relic]

its funny when it works

i also dev struck a jutland with torps

[light harbor]

Kremlin is great when you can push

Kremlin is terrible when you have a sub in front of you

[wheat cobalt]

as I said

few days ago

[untold thistle]

So, horrible in Asia

[wheat cobalt]

best way to deal with sub is to not interact with it

well designed class

or smth like that

[unique hemlock]

I hit a Jinan with bombs and then lobbed manual secondaries over an island and got a Close-Quarters Expert medal for it.

At like 12+km.

[unique hemlock]

Unironically one of my best sub hunters has been Tennessee.

And that's because the sub keeps chasing ME.

[light harbor]

Battleships usually have the best time

[wheat cobalt]

yes

[untold thistle]

Fork found in kitchen

[wheat cobalt]

bc BBs have access to un-gimped asw

usually

[unique hemlock]

They overextend, I slap 'em, enemy team complains in chat they're stupid.

[livid bridge]

Yes, a BB is the typical good thing against subs

[light harbor]

I play Rhode Island a lot specifically because she's a cruiser with ASW that can actually work

[wheat cobalt]

meanwhile Stalingrad

cruiser cutoff
cruiser asw
BB handling and size

[rustic hearth]

rhode island mentioned

[light harbor]

Stares at Moskva

[grizzled relic]

am gonna copy right strike you

[rustic hearth]

❤️

[wheat cobalt]

or Nevsky

[analog jackal]

could be worse u could be nevsky

[unique hemlock]

I mean a U-2501 and Seal on two separate occasions rushing a lone Tennessee on a flank and overextending, then getting killed because they're on the surface and don't expect an HE blind salvo or competent ASW.

[wheat cobalt]

Nevsky dealing with sub

lmao

[analog jackal]

I was gonna say lol

[untold thistle]

Public Domain Expansion

[light harbor]

Nevsky having no plane ASW should be a crime

[grizzled relic]

NU NUH

[unique hemlock]

"Ok Dmitry, you hurl the can as hard as you can overboard, da?"

[livid bridge]

Dimitry is the T9 tho

[unique hemlock]

I just picked a generic Russian name lol

[wheat cobalt]

we need

[grizzled relic]

ivan

[wheat cobalt]

soviet BC line

[unique hemlock]

like the ensign on the back of the boat handling the depth charge rack

[grizzled relic]

yes we need more casemate shell catchers

[light harbor]

What would they do?

[untold thistle]

Push

[honest silo]

I'm just curious guys, how hard is Stalingrad?

[light harbor]

Hm

This sounds familiar

[untold thistle]

Best bow armor in game but worst stern

[steel pier]

first, we need to fix the heal on BC Sewastopol and maybe some adjustments to her main guns

[livid bridge]

We need less soviet ships and more polish ships

Rah

[grizzled relic]

yaaaay i got my carrier certificate

[steel pier]

polish cruiser line

[livid bridge]

Waiter another Blyska

[light harbor]

We need more Fletchers

[wheat cobalt]

german fletcher

[untold thistle]

I pray that you get help

[livid bridge]

T10 Blyska 67 right now

[light harbor]

All the exported Fletchers

[livid bridge]

We had one brainrot for Blyskas

What about another one

[honest silo]

Yes I agree.

[grizzled relic]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1505902142177808466/Mart_Factorio_too-easy-cringe.gif

[unique hemlock]

I honestly just wanna see South Dakota and Washington in the game.

[wheat cobalt]

Stalingradus

[light harbor]

Unironically Washington would be great, but I doubt we'll see her anytime soon

[wheat cobalt]

me when

[unique hemlock]

and rather problematically, ESCORT CARRIERS.

[wheat cobalt]

Stalin has worse conceal than Kreml

[light harbor]

And she'll be milked to death

[wheat cobalt]

bombo

[grizzled relic]

washington is gonna be like a tier 8 wisconsion without the speed

[untold thistle]

Sadly, Washington probably won't be able to re-enact Guadalcanal due to the tier diff 😔

[grizzled relic]

or tier 9 if they feel spiecy

[livid bridge]

Nothing a 20% speed boost cant fix

[grizzled relic]

true

[fringe crow]

Still waiting for a Northampton-class
It's absurd we've gone this long without one

[steel pier]

lets twist histo. but for this we need SoDak

[honest silo]

Same I agree with you stevemc.

[unique hemlock]

I just like how the little jeep carriers look and think they'd be a neat little addition, but the problem is what job they'd fulfill?

I had this theoretical tech tree branch planned out a hell of a long time ago, for a line with no purpose.

[honest silo]

Oh, yeah true.

[unique hemlock]

Frankly I kinda just wanna see more state ships, more Fletchers, or jeep carriers.

[steel pier]

i mean, if we put SoDak on VIII. then we have Kagero

[light harbor]

No difference between the symbols for light cruisers and heavy cruisers, so they'll probably retain the same symbols if added as a separate line

[honest silo]

I agree.

[fringe crow]

If Stalingrad and the CL-154 can share a catagory then Essex and Commencement Bay can

[grizzled relic]

everyone needs to stop asking yari when and start asking ijn support carrier line when

[unique hemlock]

I question the addition of St Lo for that because her most notable achievements were:

• being the originally-named USS Midway
• surviving the Battle off Samar
• being the first casualty of a kamikaze, and the only aircraft carrier sunk by a kamikaze

[steel pier]

i rather ask, 3-4 ijn Sub Lines when

[ancient monolith]

what's a support carrier?

[steel pier]

idc abt Yari

[livid bridge]

Just another carrier line

Not much diff

[ancient monolith]

then why making one?

[light harbor]

Carriers that can smoke themselves up, generally

[honest silo]

Tbh it wouldn't be bad have one of the Casablanca-Class Escort Aircraft Carrier with Soviet Names guys.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Kalinin_Bay
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_Petrof_Bay

[livid bridge]

Idk maybe we need more downtime in releases

So we get a carrier early access so you can skip playing for 2 updates

[grizzled relic]

time to keep working on my mino line

[unique hemlock]

We had quite a few of the little fellas in WWII and they were definitely integral to winning the war, especially in the Battle of the Atlantic and Pacific coverage.

...logic dictates they deserve to return to the game after Bogue left, but again, the game's kind of left them behind.

[fringe crow]

Come on WG
Houston or Augusta in early war fit and Louisville in late war fit

[livid bridge]

2 more months until we get a new line

[honest silo]

Yeah I agree with you stevemc.

[honest silo]

I would love have USS Louisville CA-28 tbh AthenaRaindance.

[untold thistle]

They have a ton of historical ships to add to the game
But no
Let's add paper-only designs instead

[livid bridge]

Tbh paper ones are usually the interesting stuff

[fringe crow]

That's why I'm not particularly pleased with Fort Worth

[honest silo]

True.

[honest silo]

Why? Just for know.

[light harbor]

Forth Worth was super pulled out of nowhere

[livid bridge]

The content around historical ones is mostly just complains about how some machine gun is incorrect on the model

[plush smelt]

genuinely

it's so awful

esp with the shit maneuverability

[livid bridge]

Its good for mine clearing tbh

[fringe crow]

There are any number of actually built US cruisers that could fit at T9 and instead we get a weird CB that isn't really any particular design

[unique hemlock]

• ESCORT CARRIERS WITH NORMAL FLIGHT OPERATIONS (like Midway)
  -# Get matched against actual heavy strike carriers and given their small frames and weaker plane operations would probably just get clapped instantly.

• ESCORT CARRIERS AS A SUPPORT CLASS (like Essex)
  -# Actual fleet carriers do the job better already and in the case of minefields, Japan might be getting that kind of branch first.

• ESCORT CARRIERS AS A DEDICATED ASW CLASS (like irl history)
  -# Submarines, for all we wish and complain about, are not as OP as people think and it's very, very easy to clap one if they mess up for a split second. This just pushes the balance even harder out of that camp.

[livid bridge]

But support class and normal cv is basically the same already

[light harbor]

She's also one the many ships that WG has released recently that either could be insanely overpowered or not fit in any niche and therefore not be played with not that much in-between

[unique hemlock]

Pretty much, and in some cases I've heard people say Essex is just outright better than Midway in all regards

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[unique hemlock]

(She probably isn't, but I don't have enough experience in either to comment on that)

[livid bridge]

It is

[obsidian oriole]

Escort type ships aren't too useful for the in game play. I do want Bogue to make its return one day, but escort carriers were notably not suited for carrier ops. Hunter killer groups with CVEs used lighter planes, often no bombers

[honest silo]

I see and yeah true.

[unique hemlock]

The closest purpose I see CVEs having in this game is ASW, but honestly that might just be a bit excessive, and the purpose gets thrown out the window with one simple trick:

not getting matched up against a submarine at all

[livid bridge]

If they make them they will just give them same strike potential as other carriers

[unique hemlock]

That's legit probably the only way that's gonna work, with the gimmick probably being in the hull of the ship herself rather than the planes.

[untold thistle]

Anti sub CV wouldn't sit well with a certain sub-botted Youtuber

[unique hemlock]

I wasn't even considering that guy when I thought about this. I was just thinking about what zuiKatsu said weeks ago.

[obsidian oriole]

Heh, big reason why he's not a CC there

[unique hemlock]

The most underperforming class in the game rn is submarines.

[livid bridge]

Like midway does single digit % less damage than Essex is already said to be not worth touching

[untold thistle]

I still can't forget his kremlin bot video

[jolly shard]

no reds
again

[livid bridge]

You cant release a carrier that has less strike potential cuz CV players will just insta skip them

[obsidian oriole]

Anyways. I don't really think escort type ships have much of a place in the game

[wheat cobalt]

I love my teammates

[honest silo]

They can still do CV job with planes, but phew damage then CVL and CV I think at last?

[wheat cobalt]

it's gonna be one of those unwinnable days

gg

[obsidian oriole]

I've seen people bend to hell and back to try to make up ways to get destroyer escorts for example to work in game

[radiant olive]

Wait,are you calling midways escort carriers?

[honest silo]

If it could ever work?

[unique hemlock]

I want them in for historic reasons, but yeah in gameplay reasons, a CVL or outright CV will dump all their trump cards on them outright.

[untold thistle]

As much as I want to say otherwise, that's pretty much how it is in the current state of CVs

[fringe crow]

A Casablanca or Commencement Bay could fit at T6 but I don't see much beyond that

[livid bridge]

He's not

[unique hemlock]

No lol, I mean Midway is the classic idea of a "standard" carrier, no support consumables and hits/spots people.

[radiant olive]

Ok

[dapper thunder]

Why do so many terrible players like Maine and Montana?

or am i imagining it?

[radiant olive]

Because 'murica

[untold thistle]

AMERICA NUMBER OOOOOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNEEEEEEE

[light harbor]

Monty is a popular ship for new people and Maine is a supership

[unique hemlock]

because genuinely good people say those ships are good and everyone else takes a crack at it.

Inexperience does not translate to long-term incompetence though. You could choose to learn with a ship or just be stupid.

also yeah Amurikan Bias

[livid bridge]

Majority of players are terrible thus it shows most on most popular ships

Not much to it

[light harbor]

Montana is still the best tier 10 battleship for someone looking to learn

[fringe crow]

They'll always invent a better moron

[light harbor]

That being said, not everyone does

[unique hemlock]

Also funny fact: the USS St Lo was originally named USS Midway, but the name was changed because a new, larger carrier was being laid down and they gave her that name instead.

[wheat cobalt]

the line to midway tho

not midway

montana

[dapper thunder]

people said years ago i would not be able to improve but my average xp, pr, wr, damage are all (slowly) increasing over time

[wheat cobalt]

[dapper thunder]

focusing on just one thing (torp dd) has helped me

[honest silo]

With all honesty stevemc and AthenaRaindance I think there could be many possible way to use a Escort Aircraft Carrier.

[wheat cobalt]

why would anyone do this to themselves?

[livid bridge]

Torp dd 💀

[honest silo]

Also as Tech Tree line.

Outside of premium.

[livid bridge]

Hey the Monty line becomes ok once you reach t7

[untold thistle]

Colorado and below are questionable

[livid bridge]

No hate mr Red

[light harbor]

tier 10

[obsidian oriole]

Colorado itself is not questionable

[dapper thunder]

the mechanics are easier with torp dd but i can use my "strengths" of strategic sense, map positioning (such as it is a strength) and calling shots

[wheat cobalt]

insane cope

but you do you

[obsidian oriole]

The amount of exp Colorado needs, is questionable

[light harbor]

If you're grinding from low tier, Yamato line is a lot better

[livid bridge]

Calling shots among

[untold thistle]

You do not "call shots" in randoms

[unique hemlock]

Three whole lines, yeah.

[obsidian oriole]

Not a bad ship, but it needs so much exp on it to get all of the next T8s, that it becomes painful

[dapper thunder]

just pointing out unicums on the other team or calling them as targets can help. or pointing out weak targets.

[unique hemlock]

I honestly would have connected the Nebraska to North Carolina like Ranger to Independence.

[dapper thunder]

using comms to indicate targets helps

[untold thistle]

You only call shots in compeitive

[livid bridge]

mmm sniffing

ggs

[unique hemlock]

Colorado leads to Kansas or North Carolina, and North Carolina leads to Iowa or Nebraska.

That's how I'd do it.

[untold thistle]

That's a suggestion if anything

[light harbor]

Even then, calling only really happens in like mid-level competitive

Top clans don't have a caller because they all know what to do

[dapper thunder]

of course. i just meant pointing out targets in comms does help.

[light harbor]

...sure? You should be doing that regardless of what ship you're in

It's not hard necessarily to notice an overextended ship and push the B button

[plush smelt]

conde may in fact be overtuned

[radiant olive]

If someone in a randoms game tells me how to play my sub, he gets ignored

[unique hemlock]

I sometimes sorta just "nudge" people in a direction if they look lost, but it's definitely more of a suggestion than a command.

[dapper thunder]

most people do not use comms and don't point out targets. so torp dd gives me a mechanically easy ship where i can try to use slightly higher strategic sense vs. my lower mechanical skill and tactical sense

[eternal bear]

Same. But if I get like
"Hey yo can you spot XYZ or Hey give me fighters" I try to help

[honest silo]

I mean like with USS Long Island CVE-1 as Tech Tree at Tier 6 with Bogue-Class, I mean USS Bogue CVE-9 premium at Tier 6, USS Sangamon CVE-26 as Tech Tree Tier 8 while Casablanca at Tier 8, but premium and the Commencement Bay-Class at Tier 10.

As a line idea of CVE at last.

[livid bridge]

I prefer to just F11 people once they explode

🔥

[plush smelt]

well done is the only comm i ever use

[eternal bear]

Well done!

[dapper thunder]

I'm liking Cassard a lot so far, thinking of getting the premium package for it (wish it would let me swap commanders too though). Cassard's guns are really nice, even if played as a torp boat.

[eternal bear]

I mean its more of a hybrid line then straight torp focus imo

[radiant olive]

Buying a bonus package does not let you swap commanders for free iirc

[light harbor]

You might as well spec Cassard fully for guns

[dapper thunder]

The guns definitely work

[livid bridge]

Just build guns on usable guns

[plush smelt]

4200 PR with only 60% WR hurts

[dapper thunder]

Correct, typo. I wish it would. For that price it should.

[light harbor]

Except maybe the commander skill

[livid bridge]

If you dont have usable guns swap ships

[unique hemlock]

no they don't (so yes, you're right). It has to outright be a special/premium.

It's an earnings bonus.

[steel pier]

so many ppl tend to ignore this stuff. even in my mode. i want our team to complete as many secondary objectives as possible. yet a Tennessee followed my DD to one such objective, but not noticing, how our main objective was unprotected. and we lost

[plush smelt]

guys is the bonus package for zuper ships worth

[honest silo]

@unique hemlock What do you think?

[radiant olive]

No

[desert notch]

Insane

[eternal bear]

Fabled 60% WR

[steel pier]

no

[dapper thunder]

ick super ships

[plush smelt]

lowkey would let me farm cxp and fxp quick

[steel pier]

it only boosts exp, capt exp and free exp

[livid bridge]

Oh ye more Maine gameplay soon

[steel pier]

nothing else

[little abyss]

I build hybrid for Cassard

[livid bridge]

Cuz new Maine camo

Rah

[plush smelt]

that's everything apart from credits

[eternal bear]

Ew maine

[little abyss]

You have slightly more than 3/4ths of a Marceaus dpm

[unique hemlock]

I thought of Long Island at Tier IV because she was very, VERY first of her type for the USN in like the 1920s or 30s, but Tier VI could work as an extension of what they learned with Langley...

Overall interesting

[little abyss]

Effectively probably more like 80%

[eternal bear]

Give me super nakimov

[dapper thunder]

I'm getting better with DD guns so I will consider hybrid builds. I want to go back and try T-61 again, that was my first DD and I didn't understand anyhting about how to play when I was using it.

[steel pier]

exactly. so nothing to gain really

[little abyss]

Because the shell flight time is significantly better

[eternal bear]

Or super yodo

[plush smelt]

if ur playing supership to credit farm ur playing the wrong ship

[eternal bear]

More of a loss of credits farm

[dapper thunder]

low skill low game count superships... why

[eternal bear]

[dapper thunder]

WG shouldn't allow that

[austere heath]

How can I buy Hood?

[steel pier]

more better. i dont play any supership. even though i have 3

[eternal bear]

I just wanna sww how bad the community will flip at super subs

[steel pier]

[honest silo]

Yeah that's what I thought for Long Island as find some good potential for CVE in game.

[steel pier]

why super Sub, when i can grind/get italian ones next

[unique hemlock]

I might deadass grind Italian subs because silly guns

[eternal bear]

Hear me out
Super sucruff and super 4501

[dapper thunder]

i wish they would just make tier XI and XII ships for all the lines, with unguided rockets at XI and some kind of guilded rockets at XII. Also would really like to see lines of "support" boats like minelayer, TP boat, ASW, that kind of thing.

[ancient monolith]

we need a supership on adalbert line, with 15km secondaries

[radiant olive]

https://www.twitch.tv/worldofwarships/clip/AdventurousLaconicPonyOpieOP-XwsIgOzYZrUlE5Yf

[unique hemlock]

but then still that latenight wheel spinning and I STILL don't know if I should get Shikishima or Archerfish first...

[steel pier]

uhm, let me think for a second........uhm, oh well, no

[eternal bear]

Xd

[plush smelt]

@radiant olive when should I dcp ping in cruiser

[light harbor]

tier XI and XII ships
They already had leg Colombo (may she rest in pieces) and we still have Valparaiso and Libertad sitting relatively unnerfed

[radiant olive]

https://tenor.com/view/thats-the-neat-part-you-dont-invincible-gif-27194608

[plush smelt]

W

[radiant olive]

For realsies, wait as long as you can

[plush smelt]

is colombo bad now?

[light harbor]

Well she got nerfed, so she's no longer a tier 12

[steel pier]

as if ever a significant nerf happen to Valpapper anytime soon

[livid pendant]

Not now, you still have several hours

Right?

[radiant olive]

But when you get pinged, immediately start disengaging unless you're close enough to rush him down

[barren vortex]

Credit card

[light harbor]

Also, cruiser with 8km ASW vs. cruiser with 11km ASW

The difference is stark

[livid pendant]

But most stuff under it are going to be bad after the update

[fringe crow]

You genuinely can't make a T12 for a line unless it's a missile ship completely disjointed from the rest of the line or yet untouched levels of absurd fantasy
T11 was a dubious decision anyway

[livid pendant]

Lepanto & stuff

[plush smelt]

hmm

[drifting marlin]

comparing RI to moskva just by their ASW is certainly a choice

[plush smelt]

i was against an island in a salem and dcp'd immediately

and ate every torp

and died from 40k

[unique hemlock]

^ That point right there. If you can close the distance to about <3km in a short period of time, DO IT.

Otherwise, kite out and hold your DCP

*This advice depends hugely on the presence of enemy surface ships who could support said submarine

[light harbor]

There's no other differences

Trust

[steel pier]

despite ship class

[livid bridge]

Its ok when you are in asw range you already missplayed

You played the wrong flank

[light harbor]

True

If I have a choice I leave flank

[wheat cobalt]

well

I guess

I just had to pick Lushun

to win

[steel pier]

even if XII ships, they would need to be fully in their own mode. tier X would freak out otherwise. cuz well missiles, or god knows what weird thing to come

[unique hemlock]

I haven't run her in a while. :P

[light harbor]

The missile gamemode was also just... not fun

[steel pier]

didnt bother to play this mode once

[unique hemlock]

I did like one 186k game and then never ran Lushun B again.

Average damage for me is like 42k

[livid bridge]

Add missiles so colombo finally get 2x uptier and gets mogged

Fr

(By missile colombo)

[fringe crow]

Missile ships just won't gel well with the existing gun and torpedo gameplay

[steel pier]

exactly.

[wheat cobalt]

Luwushun

[unique hemlock]

We have a weird system of semi-guided missiles having been recently tested...

[livid bridge]

When did that stop a new release

[light harbor]

Which was terrible

[steel pier]

so any possible XII ship, which i dunno what it could have, is boud to play in its own league

[unique hemlock]

No counterplay aside from a damage-absorption consumable that went on cooldown.

[wheat cobalt]

oh god

that

[unique hemlock]

The mode itself was fairly fun, but yeah that was the biggest problem for me. You couldn't just hug an island and get those missiles wasted.

[wheat cobalt]

it wasn't fun tbf

it was annoying

not spotted

nuh uh

[fringe crow]

A lot of T10s are already just about where real world development on all gun ships stopped

[wheat cobalt]

sudden missile lock on

[radiant olive]

Reminder that ssg's are a thing

[unique hemlock]

I loved running-and-gunning in the Soviet boat just blasting everything at like 100knts

[fringe crow]

The only thing you can add more tiers onto are subs and CVs

[unique hemlock]

until yeah missile outta nowhere

[light harbor]

It was fun until the AI said no and then you couldn't play the game anymore

[steel pier]

even ships like Sherman or Groningen are alr so post WW2, XII couldnt possibly come, since it would go even further away.

[wheat cobalt]

also enemy Khaba wasn't too fond of me blasting him

gg