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everyone has to Fletcher
Yeah.
will rebuy Cavour soon, for low tier chill
last time sealclubbing before it gets nerfed
what nerff
If a part getting USS Sims DD-409, I also hope one day to have USS Somers DD-381, USS Benham DD-397 and USS Johnstob DD-557, USS Kidd DD-661 and USS Black DD-666 of the Fletcher-Class.

uge dispersion nerf
wont stop fun
Nice.
i have had Kawachi and have Mikasa, all not so good dispersion
Such a bittersweet feeling using all your heals in san marty on one hand yipee u did ur job, on the other... useless now
Oh, wait the Somers-Class Destroyer really used twin 127mm main gun?
ye
uss moffett annoying as hell to fight
Wow didn't know that, I honestly thought only the Allen M. Sumner-Class and Gearing-Claass where the only two Class of Destroyers to use twin 127mm main gun.
did anyone elses server go down
I took 2 of my boat's worth of damage
I wonder if taking ship consumable mod is a dumb idea... probably but it'd be funny
server hamster is taking a break
ye
Both Somers and Porter class had double turrets but the guns were Surface only.
Later during the war some of the Somers/Porters got some funny refits like USS Phelps with 2x2 + 1x1
Battles: 55
Wins: 56.36% (31/24/0)
Survival: 20.00% (11/44)
Base EXP: 1 025
Damage: 39 619
Kills: 0.36
Aircraft: 6.96
Spotted: 0.65
Scouting: 17 867
Potential: 1 078 433
Base EXP: 2 047
Damage: 148 466
Kills: 2
Aircraft: 35
Spotted: 4
Scouting: 118 503
Potential: 3 947 520
Main Battery: (20/2/39.66%)
Secondaries: (0/0/-)
Torpedoes: (0/0/1.54%)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (0/0/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)
20% survival rate nvm maybe im trash
Battles: 38
Wins: 55.26% (21/17/0)
Survival: 31.58% (12/26)
Base EXP: 1 107
Damage: 39 067
Kills: 0.45
Aircraft: 0.76
Spotted: 1.92
Scouting: 49 999
Potential: 528 842
Base EXP: 2 518
Damage: 191 913
Kills: 2
Aircraft: 6
Spotted: 6
Scouting: 177 217
Potential: 1 639 455
Main Battery: (5/1/37.44%)
Secondaries: (0/0/-)
Torpedoes: (12/2/8.08%)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (0/0/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)
It's Martin
You kind of expect to die
true
Only 40k average damage is weird though
Yeah... ngl not even cope
I've had so many blowouts in a row where my team just turbo pushed and I couldnt even catch up to deal damage
Like... a lot
Basically my average game is I push in, radar the dd do half his hp, tank a bunch of dmg then later on kill dd then my team turbo steamrolls and we win and I get 0 dmg
It's just that she does it really well
What is your favourite ship
...is that a serious question or are you being sarcastic?
I have no possible idea how you could come to this conclusion
It still is
Okay... what is your favourite tier 9 or 10 ship
Answer hawaii do it
Rhode Island
So close yet so far
so close
Damn okay
Nah
Hawai'i is a bit too easy to play for me to have fun in her
Yamato?
Kremlin and Wisconsin at tier 10
Musashi and Iowa at tier 9
disgusting
I just can't stand ships but bad shell arcs, I lvoe needing 0 skill to aim its joyful
kremlin
Battleship main huh
I like my ships with bad arcs
1 good game
Ah okay cools
Montana is my favourite battleship for a reason
Elbing is my favourite for a reason lol
Oh kinda jinx?
ive gone from BB main, to heavy cruisers to now enjoying light cruisers kiting in open waters, The downfall can happen fast
Yep , what about you?
It usually does
What's your favourite tier 10/9 ship?
The best (worse) class is my favourite
Crusier?
Exactly what happened to me... woah
yup
The path ends as a destroyer main
Good start to the day
That's how you have maximum game impact usually
I think my favorite Teir 9 atm is Chikuma II even though i dont touch it mush anymore
At the moment I'm halfway between cruiser and dd main
Bro wjhat 😭
its so over

100% natural ingredients
100% doubt
That's actually 700% natural ingredients
Hey lead is natural
holy...
AW HELL NAH
I run main gun build so...sometimes...it happens
Hey Royalty_Business.
Average superlight gaming
any smaller and you could call the Minimap a dead pixel
Hewwo AndreaArmaArmageddon2!
I see and nice.
Hey average_atlanta_enjoyer.
Dont UwUwizing greetings here please. 
You only got a dot and not an "!" maybe they are mad at you atlanta oh no
You can't make me stop sweety <3

But yeah it would be nice to have in game Porter-Class, Gridley-Class, Bagley-Class and Gleaves-Class Destroyers in game.
Hey HazeGrayUnderway.
hi again
I call the animal control. 
"I need intelligence data!"
Wait no! Don't call it on yourself!
Probably another genius CV or DD? 
He is NA, you need to call the short yellow bus... 😄
What was I even talking about yy is pure cinema
Im animal but only in bed, sleep tight like a siberian bear in winter. 
mmmmmmmmmm <3
HazeGrayUnderwear???
Ahh, EU, even worse... 😄
Hoffman has the same 25mm armour as the rest of elbing line right?
Tell me quick I need to fight one
its jsut shultz hull right
Shultz with improved HE and hydro
Hey Rias.
As far as I recall
after i now know its a appropriate response ~ UwU
Just for the record... Elbing >>>> Hoffman
ugh gizmo is off
What if elbing but normal turret layout
anyways just got a new sticker idea from the wows legends community
That's called Gnible
Okay hoffman smoked up so I jsut radared him and bro just sat there and took it like a good boy?
Literally didn't move what an odd cookie
only if leg mod and even then i cant really decide 
Yeah leg mod elbing, normal elbing is odd
did he shoot u?
What does elk bong legmod do again
no iw asnt spotted
Gives her fast turrets and 20% engine boost
radar?
The tradition of smoke campers thinking smoke = hard cover is still going strong, I see.
This thing?
No thats hydro
no thats sub surv
A couple days ago I waited out the full duration of a Jervis smoke right outside his hydro range until the smoke expired
Only works on the surface though :(
Fubuki went around an island and ran face first into a Vauq
How quickly does he die
Very
He already died
Vauq is like one of two or three tier 7 destroyers that uptiers okay
Against a tier 6 it's basically seal clubbing
plot twist the vauq has all his guns disabled because a monarch happened to hit a shell on him
He may have some time if the Vaq's guns aren't swung the right direction. Otherwise Protagonist-chan is in big trouble.
Revoke your freedom of speech at your nearest court of law
Bigger the better.
is that bismarck and preussen
No idea
That looks like a twin 283
Could be Hannover for all I know
looks like tirpitz and then friedrich
Big one is hannover or preussen but the small one looks like a 283 twin
poor hakuryu
cuz the smaller gun turret has an encircled AA gun on it
oaky it's gneisenau and hannover confirmed
anyways im stealing that
I just looked
its now my property
Mkay
Should be the fate of all cvs...
cv ewwwwwwwww
~~who are you
~~
So why did we whale on the al ship if u have the normal one?
You know perfecly who i am honey <3
would you ask a stamp collector, why he/she has two stamps looking nearly identical, but only differ by a small detail? 
Stamps don't cost $200
who are you 
And are also not digital
Ur mum
and yet, collectors are the same, no matter, what they collect
cant be, cuz dragons dont exist
holy ai slop
Gilbert
what you need is a steel CV with a Steel Camo
What are you?
so a steel camo for my shinano
Essex?
Steel camo for vallejo
no i will do you one better
im a human, a german, a person from the east of germany. thanks for askin 
steel camo for both willem de eerste and sekiryu
FdR
cause i wasted my steel camo for aki
Are you communist
i am east german
That's a yes
So yes
so yes
... that narrows down the serch pool alot thanks <3
how do you do fellow german
you, of all ppl, are the last to assume this right 
Hey Gl4ss_Heart.
does anyone have picture of hakuryuu historical camo 🥺
I wanna see waht it looks like
Hellow
As in?
swif, may i remind you of the jokes you pulled in vc 
Oh, nice CV-42.
I don't think I'm a communist
means, you know so little of actual east germany, to make correct assumptions abt me, my personality and what makes me, me
Wei
didnt japan abandon project G15
There's this neat thing called a joke, sir
so technically there wasnt a "real" historical camo for hakuryu
Commie gobbledygook
i think
I meant ingame my bad
Super Taiho was only a project. last CV was Ibuki, iirc
they are all called historical camos 😔
basically a mashup of another cv's camo iirc
is just green
for me, says: "classic" camo
thanks
so wouldnt say historic
its supposed to mimic the silhouette of a different ship afar
notice how the dark green elemets look like a transport ship
it's nice change from gray
I only buy the classic camos if they look cool
Yeah right.
same
same thing goes for sekiryu, just less noticable
some of thembarely change anything
fun fact
seeing this exact silhoutte on her port side, i think, this is the hidden shinano here. but ofc shinano cant get her pattern, sure
Yeah that's the correct way to call them.
sekiryu makes for a great gunboat when secondary built for ops
Sekiryu deck is Zuikaku inspired
my body has been tanking a 38-39c fever for the past 30 hours
not all. thats why they are called "classic" in menu
but i feel completely fine
i think its the attempt to mask a carrier as a civilian ship rather than another carrier
@sleek igloo If you need there is this document that show you all camouflage and from what ship they come from.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1T6CJz48Az6j2mRN8BdTcGS3QPb4TYO7muIULJyuM-jY/edit?tab=t.0
Welcome. This document provides a collection of World of Warships permanent ,event and special camouflages and the respective real life camouflage pattern, or inspiration for said camouflage. If you are looking for a specific ship you can use ctrl + F to search for the name, alternatively you can...
time for wows
especially many ijn camos, perma, are simply taken from other ships, inspired by other ships etc.
No? They are called Historical camouflage as it's what a ship wear during WW2.
at least ur warm... huggable...
ik this
Wows should have an ace combat event where you get blown up by mobius 1
bro thanks, I've been looking for a file likes this for 2 months
thanks alot
no give us the alicorn
Atago isnt "historic" neither is Hakuryu, neither is Tone, etc. thats why in my german game settings it says "klassisch" or classic in eng
they are loosely inspired, taken from other ships, or assumption, how this ship would have been painted, when put in service
its a shame ingame shinano didnt get her historical green camo
a missed oppertunity
i still want this one
Why did my brain read years.
Alright, well I play it in English and I call them historical tbf.
You are welcome.
you can clearly see the silhouette of another ship painted on shinano here
and honestly
it would be cool for wows to add this
Yeah.
I agree Swifacid.
this is quite common for ijn CVs. painting a dark green silhoutte on light green base, possibly to camouflage them as one of their Maru's in hazy or foggy conditions. problem is, in most cases this dark silhoutte wont do its job and the "Cargo Ship" on Shinano is so huge, i doubt they could have fallen for this, knowing how big japans biggest civilian liners were (im sure they knew from intelligence data alr)
¯_(ツ)_/¯
they had a dream
let them have it
IJN Shinano is a Converted Yamato-Class Battleship.
even in english not. and dont trust words written on a camo, use your knowledge or common sense
Ok.
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
no one says smthn abt this, but i said, why it barely worked for their carriers.
fair warning, supership bonus packages do not increase the credit earnings iirc
the deck pattern is more likely to work, since under some circumstance it could blend in with the water
at least i wont bleed credits..i hope
gg
@rustic hearth
i am blind
would be too easy, if mounting thoose would suddenly print creds, where previously none where earned.
You’d still have to do exceptionally well with blue boosters if you want to break even with superships
Oh, ok.
Fucking superships
I honestly should buy the Bonus Package for all my USN Ships of the Tech Tree.
thats easy, you dont get even with thoose. thats it. 
no buy bonus pack for all italians
interesting
I mean it wuld be bad if the car got blasted in middle of battle
WHAT
So port only works
Correct only in Port
meanwhile on Tennessee
I just found out
I neeeeeeed the cat.
Ah yess, the Racoon
do we have any other animals?
Tennessee's state animal iirc
All usa ships shuld also have an eagle lmao
I would later, after I did grind all USN line.
And its a blast just trying to find him running around, while looking at the ship in port... Art dept did outstanding work there... again...
Oh, and btw... Yari when ?

+1 month
Trojan Horse on Helena
Wow, didn't saw that tbh on Tennessee.
Would rather have this then what we have atm
They should release Yari but don’t announce it so everyone forgets about Yari
french
go ahead. free real estate.
Pr time people ask ? What are we up to now ? February 2035 ?
franco-british
Oh, nice didn't know that and hey Killerbin.
Alas today, I am working on camouflage proposals for several ships. What ships they are you ask? That I can't tell you.
frog eaters
Can you say whether its new ships or existing ships ?
Nope.
And can you get more animated camos in game ?
ohhh and a very manly rooster on Enseigne Gabolde
Please don’t
Animated camos are not my department.
Hey black_falcon.
Hello!
As long as they aren't weeb camos... 😄
i have another question, not related to your work: you know, if in the future, decals will also be applicable to ships on which they usually would not be mounted?
That is something beyond my knowledge, so I can't give you an answer.
also, another question i would have. do i need to apply more info on a wish ship, like this one here: #1463555527949680782 message
or would this be work for the research department?
They will be 
Dammit Bin, you have knowledge about everything... Thats at least what we players think... Next you are going to tell us that Santa doesn't exist, and the storch doesnt deliver the babies ???!?
We're well aware of the Kongo Daikan series, don't you worry.
What do you guys think about 120 dollar Bismark 41
i wish for the Hiraga BB
would be a nice historic collecatble
Alas my time as a CM had be focussed on the now and soon to be. In my current position its on the 'What will be'
I wish for a Jetro infused IJN BB
santa doesnt exist, he doesnt deliver you xmas wows ships and storch doesnt bring babies
no need for it tbh
i have 2 Bismarck now
Yeah that is true
So your job is lobbying for N3? Instead of reviewing the next line?
But that is the only way to get it without RNG involved
PoW is coming, I have done my duty.
I can’t believe wows is adding prisoners of war
-distracts your american sniper with donuts and make him become lazy-
We need more Bri'ish ships in game.. Do your duty for king and country, Bin... You'll be on the X-mas honors list before you know it then, and we can call you Sir Bin...
Problem with wows from a historical context is it’s weighted heavily towards tier ten which is mostly fake ships instead of 1905-1918 where ships are more common.
It’s borderline insane we have so many fletchers but no illustrious
Prince of Wales, mate.. Prince of Wales...
ok, one last thing i would want to know. for Ops like Narai, where you are on the -i would say so- axis side, could it be possible to replace the Liberty Ships in your Convoy with either german Auxiliary Raiders like Kormoran or japanese Maru's with guns and AA, or maybe even italian Oceanliners in grey. in the future?
two new real T10 are comming
Prince of whales? Yeah I guess, but you gotta be spending a lot of money to be the Prince among this games many whales
Doubt it...
let bin awnser
seems right now PoW is only accessible through a big pack 180 dollar containing both her and Bis41, subjected to changes
would make things aesthetic
Modifications to Ops are beyond my scope, if the teams that handle them wish them to be adjusted, then we'd do the research to get their appereance correct.
or through Gacha alongside bismark 41
can i submit this idea somewhere?
Nice.
PoW will be sold seperately in its own Admiral Bundle.
Wait really?
for 400 dollars as usual
Fuyutsuki
Calvi
Veinte De Julio
I would recommend waiting for the Feedback Threads for Ops to go live.
Oh, nice.
we know, when this is going to happen?
When the team creates them.
Yes all the ships in the Italian Submarine line and Pan-American DDs are real ships
Designed, built and served with those nations.
Even the Fletcher
I see and that's amazing.
I would not say big changes to the current battle system are likely to happen in forseeable future, they are currently more concentrated on balancing CV it seems.
Look at it this way, when Defense of Newport still tells you verbally that your carrier appears and you need to protect it till it reaches the base, and its a des moines, I doubt they will change escorted types based on what ships the players are in...
even the T3 and T4 we haven't seen yet are real ships
I am a loaf of bread
As mentioned in the Roadmap, we are actively working on MM adjustments.
The Pitro Calvi is really interessing Killerbin.
You've seen the IV in the roadmap
ohhh right - forgor
Only the 3 remains unseen
Fortunatly i am not american
and bin said, when ops related threads are launched i can submit my idea and so i wil
for example: Killer Whale, since you basically attack a german naval installation, would be cool, if the fleeing transports are Blockadebrecher or smthn like that
When can we get access to tier 1 OP
I'm just curious Killerbin.
lets start at Tier V first, shall we
pretty rare to have a fully real DD tree.
only the Brits and the Shima line are the same IIRC

For T11 it would fit the Enrico Toti as it's a real submarine and preserved one?
It's of 1968.
that we will see, when i submit my idea, untill then, i can insist on wanting to do so.
looks like a rhino sub
I want to see ops with different ships
Almost and hey nyanko.
Like instead of running into Azumas and Yoshinos, you run into alaskas and stalingrads instead
attack on Taranto
or Pearl
So is there any information on what the next tier CB season is
10
T11 submarine 
Thanks
Why is wargaming so money hungry bro damn, yeah cool a company needs to make profit but wargaming takes it a tad far...
The Shchors in aegis gets replaced with either Helena or Fiji
(good luck keeping the Fiji alive lol)
They also dont make money on selling copies of their games
Yeah as it's the first submarien built by Italy after WW2.
As the last one was the Tritone-Class during WW2.
or at least change it to a Nevski or Petropawlowsk in higher tier Ops
this alone would be a thing
CC still the only "normal" BB thats banned out right from CB
Yes but it's over $200 for some of the ships... that cost them nothing to copy over
I mean they are selling bunch of pixels. Ships shuld be like $10 max ;-;
Raptor in Final Frontier also changes with tiers
Yeah literally
Imagine instead of a sub triggering the German BB spawns early in Hermes, they spawn Italian BBs early and they shoot sap
Lmao
Neat how there is something called free will that means you dont have to if you dont want to
Actually
i mean, same goes for other games too. although its a player market. 2000€ for an IS-7 or E100, holy cow
You know what would be really cool skill check?
or a mixed fleet
You replace the DD wave at the end of Hermes with a bunch of cassards
as if the Shchors is relevant in Aegis other than using it as bot bait for the first wave
Sub are also often unplayable cause there’s no water
Could someone explain this sentence to me
I do not understand a word in it
Real Aegis game will have the Schors survive until the end 
if anything WG should update the Bot behaviour in the older Ops to the newer version
WG should make it so that bots target the secondary BB at all times
i have had this happen once in all my aegis
Ignore the cruiser and kill the secondaries BB at all cost
the wargaming propoganda got to bro 🙏
In most of my aegis games, the Shchors survives
Nahhhh man i aint falling for shit
I wonder if that’s because I play I-56 and kill everything before they get to do damage to the Shchors
Lmao
Obviously, you recon it's justified for wargaming to sell everything in $200 "admiral bundles" because the game is free and it your choice...
I finally finished the homework for the Maya lesson of tomorrow.
This is the same world where Apple can sell a piece of stand for $900
Nothing new here 
or the nice box within a box stuff
Vallejo worth spending steel on ?
Probably not
if you alr spent 40 quid on a box, at least leave away the extra golden box within
Its called optional content in a free game which you can choose to buy if you want them but they dont force you to. I will agree 200 dollars for a pack is Absolutely to greedy and the box in a box gamba is Absolutely monstrous but admiral packs should not be what you get outraged at
the bad players will tell you not - just like they told you to not get Tiger59
Tiger 59 is not good?
bad player will tell you its bad.
also, since when are Cavour and Dante Alighieri getting worse dispersion? i thought this is a Colombo issue only?
Oh, ok I see.
last dovbleg
The whole line has shit dispersion since beginning
The admiral pack was just an example, but the problem with the game being free is that pay to win is a core component of this game
The entire Italian BB line is getting bonked
so why make it any worse then?
I'd rather wows cost like $30 to buy then premium accounts and all that shit being removed
nice to know that the bull poop wishing wharf is coming back WeeGee can't tell that players and even their own CCs hate it
the Pasta BBs will get the dispersion changed to one similar to the Russian next update
You mean buffed
Imagine you have to grind for tokens that give you boxes that possibly contain a collection pieces for a rare box that could drop a part of rare ship that would be constructed in a dockyard with irl money progression. 
this would also go for Brisbane, Pioneer, Shikishima or Sewastopol then? since litterally most ppl told me to not get thoose. but i have a blast in them
Yeah.
Because the majority would buy them to use in Randoms.
a ship can objectively be considered bad but you still have fun in it
Nice how the game isent pay to win but more of pay to progress faster its just that just so happens to have the progress faster option be gonked to hell
Hey AFKaveman.
Vallejo is not worth spending steal on primarily because you can get the exact same playstyle out of like 50 other ships
👋
No... premium ship = stronger / pay to win
For sure today I will do the first battle with Yorktown.
libertad, colombo, essex aren't premium ships and they're considered some of the strongest in game
Prems aint stronger inherintly wg just gonks the balance
probably.
But it was most notable with Tiger59 because it had and has the highest WR at the same time.
The only mertric prems are inherintly stronger on is money generation
WG made sure in the past that the Prems had some drawbacks to prevent pay to win situations. But now...
Shinano, valparaiso, bremen, hawaii, hildebrand
I paid steel to get Hawaii does that make me pay to win
Shinano is steel
Shinano is not stronger than Essex though
In taht particular event you could pay real money to get that steel
and it's Steel
Valp aint broken shes kinda weak shin Bremen and hawaii is steel so i aint seeing a issue
valp is weak?
Bruh...
Fake doctorate degree yappening
The amount of valps ive seen die in 5 minutes flat in ops and asyms says so
Odd, I don’t recall being able to buy steel directly with money back in Christmas event
Maybe my memory’s fuzzy
Well that's another problem with pay to win ships, anybody can buy them there's no skill requirement
There is no mechanic for buying steel with cash
you kinda can if you have all the ships, you'll get steel drops instead of ship drops
I thought valp is a pick for randoms.
And how is that a necessity
-# well there’s the dockyard
It was lowkey just a statement, completely irrelevant honestly
There's "premium" versions of 80% of the tech line ships, which are all jsut an objectively better version of that techline ship. I call taht pay to win
Still prems and crate ships aint broken inherintly wg is just gonked on balancing
Say roon and blucher
Me when I play bad ships
Blucher definitely isn't better
They aren't copy of each other
Is it prem clones or prem alternatives
alternative at the same tier, doing the same thing but 20% better
like the tier 8 spanish ship
like suzuya
How do you messure those 20%
Yapper hours and I’m so glad that I’m active
Blucher isn't better than roon? interesting
what about the inverse?
PEF is a worse Mackensen, same hull but standard BB secondary dispersion, no hydro
valpapper isnt just strong, she is an annoying nuisance not particular as your enemy, but as your teammate
With the amount of ships in the game, there's bound to be a version worse too
cries in I actually like the Colorado
Asashio and her dw torps, for whatever (in)sane reason
Blucher has less DPM and utility overall. Not to mention Blucher got dealt a longer reload time for no real reason. Blucher did not end up being better
He's comparing Roon with Blucher
That instantly debunks whatever his argument is 
Graf Zeppelin, if we compare it to Parseval it's
- still got its original $70 price tag
- at least several times worse
Both playing terrible ships smh
There is almost a 1 to 1 ratio of gonked ships between tt and prem
Explain why that debunks it
Because they aren't even the same hull you dimwit
is Blucher strong or something?
i can't remember the last time i saw one
I don’t know what you’re talking about, Blucher and Roon look identical to me
Blucher is way way more survivable and combined with the dd dispersion (landing more shells overall) the dpm of blucher is hardly less
Its not hardly
And they have
Last time i saw one was arctic convoy as a AI
See, identical
I neevr said they were lol? Scroll up and you'll see I said "does the same role at the same tier" Nothing about hull mentioned
Lanzhou gaming
Its around 100k less overall
i still keep mine, no matter what
And its not really that much more survivable
What
Ah yes 100k overall, effectively blucher has dd disp and faster shells, the dpm is VERY similar, blucher might even be higher
Blucher is not better than Roon. Blucher is known for being a bit of a disappointment
Is this bait
These do not make her better
blucher is disappointing when compared to past dockyard ships... not when compared to roon
Personally i would say pay to win is when you as a worse player buys something out of reach and that instantly makes you win alot more, but i wouldnt say WoWs really work like that since if you buy a ship and have no idea how to play it even if its "a tad better than a tech tree of same tier" dont amount to much
How is Sicilia better than Colombo, Sibir is clearly a sidegrade, Marceau is also arguably worse than Kleb
You said premium versions of tech tree ship
Finally someone says it
There's bunch of carbon copies too
Lushun has like top 2 or 3 AP DPM, would you still call it p2w over some of the other t10 dd options that are TT/Coal?
Okay now point to where I said same hull
I like Marceau but it honestly feels a bit weaker than Kleber
The amount you pay for these benefits outweigh the gain. Blucher is regarded as a disappointment in general. Roon is considered a better cruiser than it
Lushun compared to grozovoi (same guns, similar hull) yes better. Compared to yy (same torpedoes and country) yes its better
They don’t even have the same playstyle wtf
Had same experience in WoT early days, ppl bought T6 after play couple battles in T1 and more experienced players had to suffer with teams filled with babies.
Sicilia isn't a buyable ship tho?
Not very relevant
How is sicilia not buyable
With money
This has to be bait
We're talking pay to win
.-.
How does one pay for rb points
You can buy doubs to convert xp into fxp
Wella ctually I guess you can
you can buy containers with them inside

Pay to win is like non existent here
4ss_Heart. ❤️ 
True
Bring back teh days when the side who had most T6 clevlands was the side that won the game, good times
Im crine 💔
Hello crine
Dang biggest debate I’ve seen yet.
Nah this is honestly not that bad
This is like the average wows discord debate
Hm
Just a guy complaining how he got owned by a premium ship
Hi
Dang it yap hours are over
time for sap hours then
Columbo is my favorite premium
I mean I feel like any ship can beat almost any ship as long as you’re shells can well A penetrate their ships armor and B you just out damage them hitting more shots maybe w citadel idk.
What great timing
Mf will have a stroke if he finds out Wartune, Battle Pirates or any of the cash-grabbing old flash games
Mf will instantly explode when he plays a mobile game
Boats are whatever, the real p2w in wows is the giga qol you can get from whaling ong
Mighty Eagle was the ultimate pay 2 win
That's normally how it goes
Wargaming are the pay to winners they pay their employees to make new copies of ships and make them slightly unique and Wows pulls in like 100x the profit.
My Cleveland for example can hold its own against almost every other T8 cruiser, and its a tech tree ship
As per official wows team statement, progression is one of the main goals of the game, thus progressing faster through paying is p2w 
wartune came back as a mobile game too 🥀
There was also Raid: Shadow Legends 
FarmVille
Wows gamers attempting to not "but X is worse" when p2w mentioned
For me Wisconsin.
The actual pay to win naval game is Modern Warships
But buying a premium ship dosnt exactly help you progress faster since you’re ship Xp can’t be used only the free Xp you get or unless you pay doubloons to convert the ship Xp to free Xp. Then theirs premium time which yeah different thing.
It used to be Wartune Hall of Heroes, then Wartune Lite, and then Wartune Ultra
Hmm
Just whale 500 crates and speedrun wows
If you pay fxp to skip to a ship you like and you did well in it
More cxp more all resources more everything
Great idea ima start a new wows account to speed run the game.
Am I paying to win through the Italian submarine line with free exp then when they fully release
Same ammount of time spent but more resources available = better performance
We're all gonna pay to win since this battlepass will give us Foca
Peak takes truly
Why are you taking mountain peaks
Dam
Prince of Wales tho
Last time I saw that ship it was on the opposing team had their teams only 5 kills and I bullied it in the USS Independence.
Nowadays, the camo is the only sign of true whales 
I thought it was the flags
when will the update drop?
When the battle pass explodes
how can i resist?
WG 400 buffs to Bungo pls
WG give me kronshtadt B please
Resist because mommy Monmouth is coming
Next Wednesday
Monkey's paw curls
Bungo buffed 400 times but can only be played in PVE
Is that a bad thing?
will i get headpats
I've heard of a lot of dream cruisers but why Kronstadt
Yes
ok
by getting the actually good cruiser gun ship illinois.
For collection
As an OG Krons owner why would you want that thing
I’m not actually gonna play Kron lmao I just want her for collection
So you can ignore Sevastopol (trust)
this doesn't seem financially worthwhile
This is actually the reason
collectors are not the smartest people when it comes to economics
Day1 Sevas purchase was preety peak
But then you can dream about Alaska
Guys I gotta speed run becoming the prince of the whales, I’m gonna whip out my debit card and buy the prince of whales as fast as I can
But I already have alasker
Then you don't need Krons
Kron is deffinetly funnier than alaska
No need for the latter
When you got the former
Does kron get BB or BC dispersion?
*laughs in snowflake bonuses
BB
BB

Funnier when the 16" BBs overmatch your deck and when your shells land in different postcodes
I'm laughing (at the pain)
And the sigma?
mwhahahaha
Illinois is also good.
She doesn’t get 27mm bow too so she gets punched through the nose by 380mm
Hey OOGABOOGABOOGAOOGA.
Also no hydro
Hello
No hydro yeah
And 25 nose
Again wanting Krons is like
Wanting to suffer
Please put me in the femur breaker
Hey InterconKW.
Hi
Yeah but Alaska is too anemic to bother with it
Idk man, Kron seems solid in Ranked
I at least want Kron because I want to have at least 1 or 2 large cruisers per nation for my small large cruiser collection
I’m getting Stalingrad but I don’t want to get sevas
get siegfried.
T9 ranked
Valparaiso
Agony
Like when I got a choice of playing a T9 USN cruiser I would rather play Seattle

Fuck no lmao I have adalfart and agir already
yeah? its better than those 2
bronze clasp on sibir, nice
Just shoot it back duh
Kron has the hardest hitting AP for 305mm
if they can hit
Trust if you are within 1km you won’t miss
sibir is a beast, my favorite ship by far
You will hit
(Somehow not all 9 shells)
And miss the citadel
And somehow half the salvo will still overpen
We ignore the fact I lost 5 games in a row with the thing I’ve managed to turn the WR around
Ngl, Sibir feels like bait for me
Genius
Stalingrad B here we go
That’s just all part of the plan

Fuckj
That's my thoughts honestly
Nah AL Kronshtadt next year 
Good enough
kremlin is played in ranked?
I just want a kronshtadt
I want PR
I did and all I got from Santa crates was some useless no name ship named Moskva
Sibir is
I should be able to give my commander a 1911 and swim up to ships and hit citadels and 1 shot them.
Stalingrad guns but BB disp and BBs ovm all over you
Not a sigma smh
Mommy Stalingrad 🤤
She’s still got it
Even in the ginormous 26
I know lol
no need torp
She also doesn’t have hydro
If ur being torpedoed just don’t get hit
🤯
What’s kron’s rudder shift again
14.9
Turning circle?
840m turning circle
PR_mywife_prpr
SpongeBob foghorn sound effect
Isn't that better than harugumo
Stalin has 12.5s rudder shift and 1130m turning circle for reference
840m is actually good for her size
10m worse
Worse
Haru is 830
Oop
Question for Monmouth owners, seeing as mommy Monmouth has inbuilt improved acceleration can she run prop mod in the 4th slot?
Or am I being the silly
Haru is goated, people just hating
no
yo guys do trade ins happen every year
i like my super duck
Ok thx
Hey David.
Heyo
Mario Kart Wii

Mario Kart WWII. 
I prefer kitakaze tbh

I prefer hayate
Anything below TX is not real to me
🤷
Why it makes a hail thats is prohibited in my homecountry? 
it taps the desk. its a bongo cat
you only see, what you want to see, do you
Oh ok. 

Not really, i dont want see that much.
i have bongo cat running, while i am in discord, while gaming, all day
and the strawberry cat is cute
and especially, with a sailor cap
YMCA dance?
i dunno
every click on your mouse, every keyboard key pressed makes the cat tap the desk
Sounds funny
YMCA is a famous song.
Imagine he is on AA gun and tapping the triggers to fire fast.
would be funny
yesterday, i sent a ss with bongo in my wows screen and someone thought they had added it, which would be cool
crazy I know
I feel like playing a Randoms Battle and not caring
theres ru ???
(Well, I will care to do well, but not about Asia rush mid)
(like I just gotta do my best, right?)
Random pick of ship
hmmm
HUGHES
You sent WHAT?! 
screenshot taken, where you can see bongo cat, while i play wows. normal taken ss from wows dont show bongo cat. i sent this and someone thought, they actually added bongo cat in wows 
Ah, yes. I would like one. I was disapointed that martincitapants had no voicelines at all.
a shame
such a good australian Ytb
Ask someone to mod them
I sure as hell won't because I can't code
I liked how he exiled his friend to prevent him from sabotagin his plans.
our good friend, tristan
Neither can wows developers but here we are
i mean, tristan first took a tank, destroyed all assemblers for nuclear reactor equipment and then rammed a dodge charger into the lake reactors. this surely was no accident.
It is what it is
But people still play wows regardless
and knowing from accidents i had, i bet all thoose lake reactors exploded in a chain reaction, if one was exploded
time to try Dante Alighieri
Hey Dinoslayer.
Drach's favorite BB
What did he mean by reporting
Sure I get the whaling part
But what reporting 😭
Drachnifel?
Yep, he mentions it during the wows sponsor reads
Blocked, blocked, you're all blocked
i remember his video abt the russian fleet from 1905, with all the technical issues and failures and all, was hilarious
what the fuck
When the DD player forgets SE
when people forget you can get improved SE
our Benson
I want USS Enterprise CV-6.
Hi everyone, does anyone know how many maps there are in high tier regular battles, and how many of such maps are featured in asymmetric battles?
well theres like
okinawa
CRA
someone knows this skin?
Yeah, but what I had ready she Is coming back in 15.5
land of fire
If I already have the cleveland premium package and I then complete the american cruisers collection, do I get any compensation?
best of luck in your endeavor
that's the steam exclusive cat skin for T5 konigsberg. has the cat mew sound when you fire your guns too
ok, first time seeing this
they were giving that skin out the other time when they first launched the steam and WGC linking account thing
hope, i aint a kitty killer now
then you complete the combat mission and you can get that skin
conning tower and funnels be scratching posts 
the gun sounds
very sigma graphcis
yeah gun sounds just cat meowing
MREOWWW
Thanks.
it's not Asia T8 if your team doesn't have 3 bots
WG really be dropping the ball on banning these people
hello hello i'm doing ok
Nice to hear.
Is it possible to get this camo?
it's from the time when they did the linking of steam to wgc and they gave you a combat mission to get that camo. not sure if it will be available anytime soon
I wouldnt trust him a normal vehicle not to mention a weaponized one.
we saw, what happened to the reactors in the lake, when he crashed the car in them
did the bots expanded to other ships as well?
besides the Bo(t)ise
they rereleased it last year already
in November ish
via combat mission
so... idk it may be a while lol
what even is the point of botting this game
you get like nothing if you do nothing in-game
Hey Sobrukai.
greetings
I'm just curious, what is your opinion guys of both Sims and Indianapolis?
Is plymouty good?
getting matched against those bots will give you free dmg
historically or in-game?
i don't have either of the ships in-game so far
in game
I've seen Riga beside Boises
I assume 10% results for 0% work pays off over time
historically, the sims suffered from being top-heavy and was most likely why the ship sank so fast during the battle of the coral sea
thus it's war service was very short and it's mainly known for being sunk
@plush smelt online?
the indianapolis holds a place in my heart because of the tragedy around it's sinking (with the navy failing to rescue the crew for an inordinate amount of time due to failure of their protocols)
whats up
comme vc
im in a game
aint matter to me
why tho
that's the thing that I can't understand - botting poorly
I'm sure there's tons of bots that actually perform decently well and obv those are super easy to understand.
but the bots that die with 621 damage 2 minutes into the game
they aren't fucking earning anything. they'll run out of money, even, with maintenance costs



