game-discussion

[tiny radish]

this isnt chess

[waxen umbra]

alright, thnx anyways

[gaunt saddle]

Your goal should be to develop the situational awareness needed to make your decisions.

Ex. How many enemy ships am I fighting, who is my main threat, who can I take out quickly. Etc

[tiny radish]

the faster you realize that the faster you can make the calls

[waxen umbra]

sure

[waxen umbra]

thnx

[gaunt saddle]

How do I limit the amount of enemies I need to fight at once

[junior osprey]

Play less games so you have more time for friends and family 😍

[tiny radish]

and then that gives you the lead over your team

[lucid wagon]

sorry. Useless info from shitter with like 60% winrate.

be on my level.

[whole meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1229271586352402452/1483274666259906640/IMG_2892.gif

[woven marsh]

Unc, UNC

[tiny radish]

of course a bit of confidence goes a long way, sometimes you gotta make a ballsy play

but please, PLEASE make calculated risks (emphasis on "calculated"; most people are terrible at math)

[grim portal]

no

i am going down mid in the vermont

[light harbor]

Must walk into crossfires

This is the law

[lucid wagon]

6 ships i can EASILY beat in colbert

open water

[tawdry turret]

I love being blown up

[lucid wagon]

surrounding me

i love blowing

[tawdry turret]

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[grim portal]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1115293976518459497/1490479788497047772/twitter-gif-2040835024711294998.gif

[jolly shard]

duh

[woven marsh]

Erm

[lucid wagon]

the pig bro 😭

[grim portal]

Burnt loaf

[tiny radish]

one of my memorable NA chats went like this:

teammate tries to 1v3 in a DD/cruiser and dies horribly (while being whacked by 2 people who joined in afterwards but were previously spotted)

Me: "you idiot, that was a 1v5 why would you suicide"
Him: "No it wasn't, that was a 1v3 the other 2 weren't spotted they don't count!"
Me: "Neither could you."

[tawdry turret]

dis me irl when i

[lucid wagon]

i like seeing 40% shitters int thinking theyll somehow win against the entire team

and come up successful

[tawdry turret]

i cant c =

[light harbor]

I think if your loaf looks that black, that's a bad sign

[tiny radish]

main character syndrome

[lucid wagon]

maybe its because every 1/100 times it does actually work

[light harbor]

Make sure to avoid broken mirrors or stepping on cracks just in case

[lucid wagon]

i mean when i was really shit I had a 337k dmg record for just committing ballsy suicide

[tiny radish]

or under ladders

[whole meteor]

this is why the expert rating is horrible

[tiny radish]

its good for farming the farmers

[lucid wagon]

Sibir is such a fucking pig bro

why do i play it over Kremlin

ts sucks

[severe plank]

what if you walk under ladders

[light harbor]

That's bad

[woven marsh]

What if you want to hit non penning secondaries

[lucid wagon]

then i play Ushakov

[plush oxide]

can someone tell me whats wrong with this image

[severe plank]

yeah he's playing colombo

that's what's wrong

[whole meteor]

a bb exists

[woven marsh]

He's got AP loaded?

[whole meteor]

so its wrong

shrimple

[lucid wagon]

how in gods name is the avg hannover damage 89k

[tawdry turret]

my friend is planning on buying Alabama

[severe plank]

based

[lucid wagon]

what the fuck are we doing

[tawdry turret]

please help my friend

[plush oxide]

none of you have

gotten it yet

[severe plank]

let him buy alabama

[light harbor]

Is that Luigi from WoWS legends?

[severe plank]

it's not a bad ship ig

[tawdry turret]

me when i thought 2ndaries rush was good

[plush oxide]

ding ding ding

[woven marsh]

Ew

[light harbor]

That was a guess admittedly

[grim portal]

No it's fine

[plush oxide]

it's the image of luigi from the console game

[tiny radish]

I dont expect high quality edits from shorts

[plush oxide]

implanted to a guide on colombo

for PC

[tiny radish]

its basically tiktok

[tawdry turret]

[light harbor]

You should rub it to be sure

[lucid wagon]

rub it ouy

out

[light harbor]

Healthy loaves rumble correctly

[lucid wagon]

where is that reddit of cat abusers

[severe plank]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kitty-drawing-lying-in-bed-cat-6DPZpsFHl1J8Qd66hD

[lucid wagon]

"Chonkers'"

code for im overfeeding my cat and abusing it

[severe plank]

looking around I just noticed my office looks a lot like the fnaf 3 office

[lucid wagon]

guys is this cat healthy

[grim portal]

Yes

[severe plank]

yikes

[lucid wagon]

how the fuck does a cat get to this level

[tawdry turret]

kinda chonk

[lucid wagon]

jesus christ

[grim portal]

My cat has a lot of loose fur but she is not actually fat

[plush oxide]

abuse

and ignorance

from the owners

[grim portal]

Like u can see

She's not wide

[plush oxide]

any animal can get fat if you overfeed them

and they will suffer a lot of health problems

[round pivot]

You think it’s normal if I post w of world of warships legends if it was only on topic, not in the game discussion

[plush oxide]

from being that size

[round pivot]

That’s what I normally play a game

Especially support controller on PC

I know this is not a reverent conversation, but this is totally quite similar

Some developers will know that this game was been announced to be released on Steam

[lucid wagon]

great depression setup

[round pivot]

Remember, this is world of warship legends

Because there’s a lot of players using mobile PC and console

[light harbor]

...this is the WoWS server

[plush oxide]

is this a real setup

[round pivot]

Yes

[light harbor]

WoWS legends has a different server

[plush oxide]

my eyes need something for that image i just saw

[round pivot]

I wouldn’t know that, but I like to just join the discord group and talk about it but it’s only going to be an off-topic

[light harbor]

Then go to #off-topic

[round pivot]

I know that because some people get confused that this is world of warships because people never seem world of warships legends

[light harbor]

Then tell them that it's legends and not the normal game we all know and hate

[round pivot]

I’m just letting you know that this is real

[woven marsh]

Yes

Different game

[light harbor]

...is there a third ghost person here that I just can't see or something?

[round pivot]

[woven marsh]

Who?

[light harbor]

I dunno

[woven marsh]

Me?

or?

Someone else maybe?

[light harbor]

It feels like that other person and me are talking past each other

[woven marsh]

Who

🦉

[light harbor]

The Jason guy

[round pivot]

[whole meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1156671830162145430/1253945654472871966/togif.gif

[round pivot]

[river dune]

https://tenor.com/view/pump-up-the-jam-gif-22954631

[woven marsh]

Omg it's a vr chat pfp

😭

Where is Proximity Chat

Get that man here

[round pivot]

OK

https://tenor.com/view/dexter-james-doakes-erik-king-stare-staring-gif-1343162792415382650

[light harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/petty-parker-smoke-snoop-dogg-homer-simpson-disappear-gif-17093677

[tawdry turret]

[fringe crow]

No that's just how conversations with this person go

[light harbor]

Ah

[tawdry turret]

me when air

[river dune]

um

when did we get this sticker

[woven marsh]

Sorry I didn't mean to

[whole meteor]

@light harbor

[light harbor]

Yes, they made it today

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[woven marsh]

Just need to work on communication, map awareness, ship positioning, team comp, DD aim, CA aim, kiting, pushing, smoking teammates, radar management, hydro management, rotations, retake ability, speed juking, doing damage and getting a kill.

[whole meteor]

REAL

[tawdry turret]

real guide

[whole meteor]

ah yes RBMK - K is at 56% wr in hurricnae

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

[left kestrel]

3 days until trade in yes?

[lament birch]

Well yer you either force wins from the lower ranks or play good enough you farm the high ranks for their points

[hearty solstice]

games barely started

[light harbor]

How did we make it to typhoon anyway

[whole meteor]

can we talk about how you guys got carried into green and then kited fell off a cliff

[deep swan]

You didn’t see the update? DDs now just explode when you radar them.

[molten summit]

Final boss of the game

[light harbor]

Random disconnection while in port #2

[grim portal]

Skill issue

[edgy marten]

internet issue 😔

[hearty solstice]

use vpn

[light harbor]

I do?

[light harbor]

Not unicum, this is true

[whole meteor]

ew sub 2450 pr

[lucid wagon]

not everyone can be a unicoom

[light harbor]

Does this count?

[woven marsh]

Hmm

[lucid wagon]

not at least unicum pr

youre bad

div farmer

[light harbor]

My 90 day winrate is unicum in solos

[lucid wagon]

what if someone has a 70% wr made up of 32 games in solo at 0% wr w/ 200 pr but 12,000 games in divs of 3

w/ an avg pr of 2,400

div padder

shit at the game

trust

[woven marsh]

Shitter

Idc

They a shitter

[light harbor]

I just had one really bad day

[lucid wagon]

i mean realistically

theyre still probably very good

[woven marsh]

Shitter

Nah bad

[lucid wagon]

i have 58% wr w/ 39% solo wr

[woven marsh]

Solo play is best measure of how one holds up in randoms

[lucid wagon]

take me on

[woven marsh]

😭

[lucid wagon]

yeah but you cant really measure someone if they have 32 games compared too.. 12,000 in divs of 3

[woven marsh]

Yeah I can

[lucid wagon]

if they have high avg dmg and pr you can kinda just take it at that

[woven marsh]

I get to say they have 0% solo WR

And what are they gonna say

[lucid wagon]

i have 32 solo games compared to 12,000 div 3 games

[woven marsh]

b-b-b-but I am cracked in a cringe div of 3

😭

[lucid wagon]

one sample size is clearly larger

this gives me idea

[woven marsh]

This isn't a supermarket, I am not sampling any food

[lucid wagon]

if i just reroll and div with the super unicooms i know

i can get 80% wr

ggez

[woven marsh]

😭

[lucid wagon]

honestly though divs of 3 are really easy to stat pad with

[woven marsh]

yes

[lucid wagon]

i know several people who have like 52-55% wr in solos and then 70%+ in Divs of 3

real funny

so they end up like 58-60%

[tawdry turret]

especially with unicoom

[cunning lichen]

That's expected. Anything less would be terrible

[lucid wagon]

True.

[cunning lichen]

Also

You probably wont keep a 70%-80% WR for long

Since your WR is so unstable

[lucid wagon]

no i will

[boreal fable]

Yueyang or Hindenburg?

[light harbor]

It's called triple div sealclubbing

[lucid wagon]

i will do triple Gulio Cesare div

[light harbor]

GC is not that good as a triple div

Now, triple Kamikaze

[lucid wagon]

dont care

my pure skill wins

OUR pure skill wins

[light harbor]

I am not a part of your scheme

[lucid wagon]

Fujin x3 (cool halloween skin = totally superior to Kamikaze R and Kamikaze)

[light harbor]

Isn't Fujin the one with the ocean-pattern camo?

Or is that Kamikaze R

[lucid wagon]

Kamikaze R

[fringe crow]

Kamikaze R gets the wave camo

[lucid wagon]

Fujin

[fringe crow]

Fujin gets the Halloween camo

[light harbor]

Huh

That is a neat camo

[boreal fable]

Yueyang or hindenburg?

Please tell me

[lucid wagon]

Hindenburg

[fringe crow]

Kamikaze R

[boreal fable]

I see...

[lucid wagon]

theyre all thew same ship tho

[light harbor]

I think I prefer this, yes

[fringe crow]

Yeah it's a really pretty camo

[light harbor]

What do you want to do?

[boreal fable]

Leg mod

I like both

[light harbor]

Oh, neither

[boreal fable]

But idk which to get

Pardon

[light harbor]

YY if you're super invested in wanting a diet Smaland I guess

[boreal fable]

Hindy leg mod is pure 100% buff

[light harbor]

Hindy legmod is a sidegrade

[boreal fable]

How

I'm running steering gears anyway

Running lighthouse anyway

[light harbor]

Not really worth the RB points then

[boreal fable]

Now I get half of steerign gears

But half fires and floods + more heal

[light harbor]

Why take Hindy legmod when you can take DM legmod and have a pure buff

[boreal fable]

Lowkey could be true

[whole meteor]

still a sidegrade

[boreal fable]

DM is sidegrade bro

But I prefer hindy over dm

[whole meteor]

both are sidegrades

[eternal geyser]

meow

[light harbor]

I think I'm being trolled

[untold thistle]

prpr

[boreal fable]

whats up

[eternal geyser]

@light harbor hi

[whole meteor]

no

[light harbor]

Hello

[whole meteor]

its not trolling

[eternal geyser]

meow

https://tenor.com/view/ai-cat-cat-bread-gif-13133767875531312554

[light harbor]

Expound then

[whole meteor]

the change is just a deep launchpad vs shallow launchpad

[boreal fable]

-12% dpm for extra manouvering

Sidegrade no?

[whole meteor]

the thing is that prop mod still works pretty fine

for forward jumping

[light harbor]

[whole meteor]

so the only thing that legmod helps with is reverse launchpadding

[rustic hearth]

mreeeow

[whole meteor]

which saves you from getting deep cheeked

which is very situtational

[lucid wagon]

yo what the fuck are any of these terms

[whole meteor]

the only real change is sacing reload for turret traverse buff

[lucid wagon]

"reverse launchpadding"

"deepcheeked"

[boreal fable]

Reverse launch = going in reverse from stop

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[boreal fable]

citadelled through the bow

[lucid wagon]

i literally do not use any of these terms

you call that deep cheeked?

[whole meteor]

idk im half tilted right now

[boreal fable]

He does

[whole meteor]

yea cuz deep cross shot

?

[boreal fable]

I personally don't

[lucid wagon]

i mean thats just a weird way to say it

[boreal fable]

I can just assume things from context

[lucid wagon]

they shot deep into me

[untold thistle]

I just call it bow-citted

[whole meteor]

range

[boreal fable]

Alright...........

[light harbor]

That being said though, I'd still get a legmod that's just a full upgrade rather than a sidegrade

[boreal fable]

Like which

[untold thistle]

elbing

[boreal fable]

I want yummy leg mod

I already have elbing

Elbing leg mod is tasty 10/10 super awesome

[whole meteor]

hmm which legmod is a pure upgrade

hmm

[light harbor]

Yamato

[boreal fable]

Nah bro I don't play bbs

[whole meteor]

but 32mm overmatch

[light harbor]

Understandable

[lament birch]

I dislike tomato leg mod tbh

[edgy marten]

Venezia, Haru

[light harbor]

I'd call Moskva legmod a pure upgrade but I'm sure other people think otherwise

[whole meteor]

no

shimakaze

[boreal fable]

I think the net dpm is the same, more shells hit vs more shell volume

[whole meteor]

depedent on range

[boreal fable]

True

[whole meteor]

then you could say the same for henri

idk abt ven tho

[light harbor]

Also landing more shells per salvo is more satisfying than reloading more quickly

[lucid wagon]

i think the craziest pure upgrade is daring UU

trust me bro

[digital locust]

Grozovoi

[whole meteor]

like smoke is good but its also like

[untold thistle]

for lighthouse, is a must but regular build is uh

[light harbor]

[whole meteor]

the rudder upgrade is also good

if you dont use the smoke a lot

[lucid wagon]

UU DM

[woven marsh]

Moskva

[lucid wagon]

is kind of a pure upgrade

[woven marsh]

Kremlin

[lucid wagon]

trust

[whole meteor]

no

[tawdry turret]

Krem

[light harbor]

Ehhh

[whole meteor]

its subjective

[tawdry turret]

more tanky

[light harbor]

Kremlin losing dispersion is pretty oof

[whole meteor]

krem is subjective but leans heavily into pure upgrade

[woven marsh]

+1 consumable ans better reload

That's an upgrade

[boreal fable]

Okay yes kremlin is an upgrade... but do I play kremlin enough 🤔

[digital locust]

Vermont

[whole meteor]

no

vermont is a pure sidegrade

[light harbor]

Khaba legmod is pure buff

There we go

[silent forge]

Petro is straight upgrade

Along with Elbing

[whole meteor]

TRUE

[boreal fable]

But the yy radar would be funny

Almost 50 seconds of radar on a dd is funny works

[whole meteor]

you can only use 13-16 seconds of it

[light harbor]

It's funny but you're rarely going to get the full value out of it

[whole meteor]

the rest is just team radar

[boreal fable]

Still very useful

[whole meteor]

oh zao

[boreal fable]

But I think you can use more than that

[light harbor]

I guess if you really want the diet Smaland experience then sure, go for YY

[digital locust]

Cant wait for 7km 3 minute hydro

[lucid wagon]

minotaur UU

for the farming kind

[whole meteor]

radar mino is shrimply better

[lucid wagon]

yeah well im a farming minotaur with insecurity

[edgy marten]

no one wants to play Radar Mino

[boreal fable]

Is that a buff though...

[light harbor]

Yes

[whole meteor]

huh yea

[boreal fable]

Speak for yourself?

[whole meteor]

cuz the turret traverse being 30 seconds

[digital locust]

Radar mino is not a ship for femboys

[whole meteor]

is kinda uh

not flexbile

[light harbor]

Legmod doesn't nerf turret traverse on Zao

It's just range and dispersion buff

[boreal fable]

Okay so assuming your turrets are already pointed the right way, -12% dpm for 7% disp on already dd disp (meaning the benefits are much lower than say yamato) doesnt really make sense to me

[digital locust]

Laser zao

Is laser zao

[boreal fable]

But also like... san amrtin

[whole meteor]

ig

SM doesnt have mino handling

so its cooked

[lucid wagon]

i think we are all forgetting of the greatest UU

kleber UU

[boreal fable]

true

[light harbor]

Martin doesn't play like radar Mino at all

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/jinx-the-cat-jinx-jinx-cat-cat-computer-gif-25786466

nope

audacious UU

[severe plank]

old nevsky UU

[whole meteor]

the GOAT

[severe plank]

greatest uu of all time

[boreal fable]

But also the funny button where you can just spam radar is emga funny

[edgy marten]

knockoff Chateaurenault

[whole meteor]

no

[untold thistle]

the fuck does it even do?

[edgy marten]

or knockoff Cassard, even

[lucid wagon]

makes you a shittier kleber

lmao

[light harbor]

Makes you a yolo torp bote

[whole meteor]

its comp kleb

[lucid wagon]

i dont play competitive

[light harbor]

Buffs your conceal but massively nerfs your gun DPM

[lucid wagon]

comp players are losers

[whole meteor]

GL legmod is also up there

[grim portal]

makes your guns dog poo poo but your conceal becomes usable

[lucid wagon]

big fat idiot losers

[untold thistle]

no wonder

[digital locust]

Venezia

[lucid wagon]

pre-nerf GL legmod

oh how i miss it

[edgy marten]

play Kushiro

[whole meteor]

that was oppresive

[woven marsh]

No

[whole meteor]

glad they nerfed it

[edgy marten]

many more smog charges base

[lucid wagon]

but it was funnyt

cant we just have FUN

[silent forge]

You only ever see legmod Kleb in competitive builds

[light harbor]

Expound

[silent forge]

Otherwise it’s legit hopeless

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/shh-cats-gif-10955612

[edgy marten]

this is wows competitive gaming

[silent forge]

Negative DPM ship

[edgy marten]

there is no such thing as fun

[digital locust]

Fun is for betas

[woven marsh]

giga heal after buff, lm makes you lose heal

[lucid wagon]

what about MvR UU guys

[whole meteor]

ok but your hp pool

you take SI anyways

cuz 10% is better than 5% on bft

and anyone who runs rpf khaba is not real

[woven marsh]

What slot does it go in anyway

[whole meteor]

5

[light harbor]

Slot 5

[woven marsh]

lose rudder as well

defo not a straight upgrade

[digital locust]

Khaba has no rudder

[whole meteor]

this guy doesnt know

[untold thistle]

I guess it makes the torp bombers more usable but uh

[edgy marten]

either way, straight upgrade UUs are aberrations

[silent forge]

Loosing rudder on Khaba slot 5 is a little grief, Khaba needs double rudder

[edgy marten]

and must be reduced to sidegrades

[light harbor]

Looks at Colombo

[untold thistle]

how do you propose that elbing legmod gets nerfed

[edgy marten]

Colombo now only has one smoke with UU

so it's all good now

[whole meteor]

just remove the turret traverse buff

problem solved

[lucid wagon]

rate my khaba build

[edgy marten]

...or something along those lines

[digital locust]

They removed range mod from cc

Rip

[untold thistle]

maybe, honestly would rather gimp the firing range even more and prob remove the EB buff so yeah

[lucid wagon]

this is my delny build

[edgy marten]

good riddance

[untold thistle]

now if only legmod colombo also nerfed the range

[whole meteor]

@light harbor do you do moskva lessons

im gonna get her from the coupon refresh

[light harbor]

Not sure I'm the best person to learn Moskva from

I mean

Yeah

[whole meteor]

do recent 30

[lucid wagon]

should i actually play this hull build like this isnt even a joke i want to see how bad this would be

[untold thistle]

I still wonder how you did that

[light harbor]

By not winning

[lucid wagon]

breh

[lucid wagon]

whats the furthest range a DD can get

what DD has most range

[light harbor]

Kleber

[whole meteor]

uh

[fringe crow]

Rangemod + AFT Kleber

Just beats out Elbing with the same mods

[tiny radish]

we were robbed of prenerf range mod AFT khaba in 2015

[light harbor]

Oh right my recents are unicum in Moskva

[tiny radish]

that would've been lowkey toxic

[light harbor]

I forgot

[tiny radish]

(khaba used to have 13 km base range and functioning RST)

[light harbor]

Maybe I get Zorkiy and cosplay as 2015 Khaba someday

[tiny radish]

you got to remember that at the time, the fastest shells we had were zao shells

no stalin, no russian railgun cruisers/BBs

realistically the best counter to them were RTS CVs

[frosty cedar]

og khaba was built differently

[tiny radish]

radar wasnt even a thing yet as well

(so DMs were fighter or spotterplane)

[lucid wagon]

DM rangemod eye in the sky spotter build 2026

best dm build

[light harbor]

Also I figured you'd have better players than me to learn from

[whole meteor]

nop

[light harbor]

Huh

Well if you really want then sure I guess

[whole meteor]

the learning in question is just ragebaiting each other for fun

[lucid wagon]

you should learn from me

step 1: rush B cap always

step 2; no thinking

step 3; do 300k damage

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-ake-chen-gif-1852193165950969361

[light harbor]

Step one of Moskva: pre-kite immediately
Step two of Moskva: be devstruck anyway because it's a carrier game and an enemy battleship took a potshot
Step three of Moskva: cry

[tawdry turret]

the asians have read this message

[blazing quest]

https://tenor.com/view/tap-phone-tap-phone-umamusume-gold-ship-gif-16193292666455185305

I’m pregnant

[whole meteor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1471305857995243562/ezgif-4de4f7738b90839a.gif

[light harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/lotr-sauron-parody-married-gif-5302081197840289867

[untold thistle]

when's the due date

[eager pumice]

He constantly is in a state of replication, trying to create more unicums, but everything that comes out every day is a mid rushing red stat

[light harbor]

That explains a lot

[coral herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669133945375555584/1420779187903660153/slmus.gif

[blazing quest]

Tomorrow

[untold thistle]

praying for safe delivery

[blazing quest]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/730894609617649724/1437998208134414367/Untitled.gif

I can’t find the how I nuked wargaming gif

[tawdry turret]

ow

[coral herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1032105611938238505/1437358638648786964/SockMySanMartin.gif

[eager pumice]

They socked my son 💔

[coral herald]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669133945375555584/1361646789576622192/ezgif-61a20d2c7ccb8e.gif

[light harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/wows-bullet-penetration-gif-13624141

[tawdry turret]

it wasnt a cit tho

SAp

[coral herald]

https://giphy.com/gifs/movie-godfather-the-l4FGGafcOHmrlQxG0

[sweet latch]

SAP can cit

[tawdry turret]

i know but theres no cit

[coral herald]

Sap clap

plap plap

weeeeee

[boreal fable]

I love budget smalland

Fun as ngl

[light harbor]

Glad you're having fun then

[coral herald]

isn't it ragnar?

[boreal fable]

1.6mil pot in my yueyang

[coral herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854971361185103873/1183690148374921287/ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif

[boreal fable]

leg mod yueyang

[light harbor]

Ragnar is her own thing

[coral herald]

elbing for bads

[light harbor]

Tiger '59 but actually good

[coral herald]

yooo

[boreal fable]

dont tell them that

Buff it more

[coral herald]

IKEA tiger 59

[light harbor]

I mean

Ragnar is inherently underpowered

Clearly

[boreal fable]

Oh I thought you were actually talking about tiger 59

[coral herald]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/854971361185103873/1183690148374921287/ezgif.com-video-to-gif.gif

[boreal fable]

I enjoy every ship everyone else calls bad

like tiger 59 and leg mod yy

[coral herald]

I call them good

now it's not everyone

[boreal fable]

guh

Unacceptable

wows players...

[coral herald]

mathing

[tawdry turret]

mather

[coral herald]

meth

[tawdry turret]

[boreal fable]

ah theres a burrows scary what do I do

[severe plank]

dd 6 + 7

[coral herald]

Z67

or Z13

[severe plank]

burrows when khaba

[tawdry turret]

Z- with range of hydro as well as conceal

[severe plank]

literally can't pen it lol

[boreal fable]

Literally any dd that isnt daring or elbing

[coral herald]

7km hydro

radar I mean

fun

[boreal fable]

ah burrows did 4k per salvo

That was a fun engagement

[junior osprey]

Regarding strong legmods I'm partial to Venezia

It ups the survivability to an insane degree

[livid bridge]

Burrows into Brest

[boreal fable]

yeah oaky leg mod yy is lowkey useless if the team decided they aren't helping you

[tawdry turret]

[boreal fable]

haru yy div

could be peak

Leg mod yy is outspotted by Elbing 😭

[woven marsh]

@radiant olive What is my U69 assym build

Do bots use ASW in assym

[rustic hearth]

yes they do

iirc

[honest silo]

Good morning guys!

[woven marsh]

Good morning Andrea

[coral herald]

Morning

[honest silo]

Hey BOBTHEBALL.

Hey Independence22.

[blazing palm]

Good morning chat 🙂

[livid bridge]

Good morbing

[blazing palm]

How's your day starting?

[livid bridge]

Hmm, its starting decent ig, woke up rather uneventfully

3h of sleep then work

[blazing palm]

You will need a lot of coffee today

Even though my watch shows 4 hours of sleep, hehe

So I will need it too

[untold thistle]

local agano blows up against pan-am cruiser

forgets I can citadel

[desert notch]

will 15.4 patchnotes come out today?

[honest silo]

Hey Barkond and Good morning, how are you?

Hey mehfia.

Hey Nayterii.

Hey Brandon0sh.

[radiant olive]

No idea, i don't do pve in subs

[untold thistle]

hey andrea

[south schooner]

just don't take watchful like everyone

[desert notch]

Amonge

[radiant olive]

For pvp he should

[south schooner]

it's a wasted skill i haven't used it the past couple hundred games

[radiant olive]

Ooook, this has to be bait

[blazing palm]

I'm good, already busy with work 🙂
And you?

[honest silo]

Hey Arden.

[honest silo]

I'm fine thanks, just started to work and can't wait for 15.4 to arrive with the Trade-in and also to start the next Dockyard chain set of Mission.

[radiant olive]

mornin' barkond

[livid bridge]

Hello

[livid bridge]

250ml of Black Energy already consumed

Next one in a couple hours

🔥

[cunning lichen]

What are you talking about?

Why not

Just gun whatever you spot down?

Like unless it's a full dedicated gunboat like Marceau or Smaland or some shit, Leg mod YY generally beats whatever DD

YY with Leg mod and full gunboat build is like..

246k HE DPM?

Very respectable

[honest silo]

Hey NoBrainZao.

[cunning lichen]

Hi

[boreal fable]

236k

[cunning lichen]

Did you take into account FB?

[boreal fable]

I don't take FB

[cunning lichen]

Why not..?

[boreal fable]

16 point commander moment

[cunning lichen]

Then get Fearless..

Also

236k

Is again

[boreal fable]

But anyways it can't really beat that many boats

[cunning lichen]

Still respectable

[boreal fable]

It's pretty low end

[cunning lichen]

Low end???

[boreal fable]

Yes

[cunning lichen]

The only boats you aren't really "beating" is again, dedicated gun boats

You're beating most things

Even moreso if they make the mistake of smoking up infront of you.

[boreal fable]

With leg mod it's on par with lushun HE dpm

[cunning lichen]

Also gun build YY puts you around Daring levels of HE DPM

[boreal fable]

Which combined with the terrible shell velocity is generally... pretty low end

[cunning lichen]

So you mean to tell me Daring isnt beating most DDs?

[boreal fable]

???

[cunning lichen]

Did you not know this?

[boreal fable]

It's less than daring

[cunning lichen]

Not by much

Pretty sure it was around a 10k difference

If not less

[boreal fable]

261 vs 236

Quite a bit less I think

[cunning lichen]

You don't have FB my guy

[boreal fable]

Okay even with FB the ratio remains the same

[cunning lichen]

It doesnt

Because Daring doesnt take FB

[boreal fable]

But no I don't have fb

Huh

[sweet latch]

FB Daring sounds .... Daring

[boreal fable]

I'm not including FB on the yy because I don't run it

[cunning lichen]

With FB active, your DPM jumps to 259k by your numbers of what you're telling me lol

259k vs 261k

Basically the same

[honest silo]

Hey CastorTolagi.

[sweet latch]

now do UU Daring when you do UU YY

[boreal fable]

That's like comparing jinan and worcester dpm but jinan is range mod and worcester is reload mod

No a fair comparison I recon...

[sweet latch]

you compare resonable builds - or stock

[cunning lichen]

You're not including the skill that basically every single gun build YY uses

[boreal fable]

Because I don't have it bruh

[cunning lichen]

Then why complain about YY UU being useless when you dont even have a full build for it

Dont make a whole lotta sense now

[boreal fable]

Because it is

Under the circumstance you have no team

With a team yy is awesome

[sweet latch]

that would be equivalent of not running a full Torp build when you install Z-52s UU

makes zero sense then

[tawdry turret]

LM Z52 was goob

[sweet latch]

it was good - now its amazing

[honest silo]

Hey _Kowatori.

[cunning lichen]

Then if you dont have a full build for UU Yueyang then it's best not to be trying to gunboat it and sticking with it being a torp boat.

[livid bridge]

Imma be real anything above 200k HE DPM with hands applied means you are winning the dd vs dd

[cunning lichen]

Basically

[boreal fable]

torpboat legmod yy, wuh

[cunning lichen]

Even with 236k HE DPM you should be winning most DD engagements

[honest silo]

Yeah.

[boreal fable]

Okay now imagine the other dd also has 200k HE dpm and also has hands

[livid bridge]

I will try UU YY

[sweet latch]

unless you fight an Elbing with hands

[boreal fable]

• he has a team and you don't

[livid bridge]

Right after AL YY drops

Clue

[livid bridge]

Yes I can

[cunning lichen]

Then it's not a 1v1 at that point and you shouldnt be trying to challenge that

[livid bridge]

The 5% cases I dont play around

[boreal fable]

I'm glad you can imagine?

[livid bridge]

Where the enemy dd has hands

And you gonext

[silent forge]

Wows monitor sniffing

[opal quarry]

Hand owning DDs are kinda rare tbh

[boreal fable]

That's true

[livid bridge]

Nah thats cringe

It just very rarely happens

[opal quarry]

Triangle mafia gameplay is peak

[livid bridge]

So just bet on it not happening

[boreal fable]

Unfortunately his team wasn't spotted until this defining moment

[muted eagle]

https://tenor.com/view/lick-phone-lick-screen-lick-mr-bean-lick-mr-bean-gif-11313931737934639642

[sweet latch]

both hands are already needed for glue sniffing

[cunning lichen]

That's like saying Im in a Smaland and Im against Shima, but the Shima has a DM and Petro behind is back and I die and Shima lives therefore Smaland is bad

[opal quarry]

Or get a divmate in something that like to click triangles

Problem solved

[livid bridge]

Me when priority target tells me about enemy ships on the flank beforehand

Epico

[silent forge]

Comparing legmod YY to Smaland, whatever next

[livid bridge]

Smokeless radar dd

[boreal fable]

Wait that's real

[cunning lichen]

Analogy.

[livid bridge]

Simillar thing ngl

[austere mango]

... With the added benefit, if the battle fails, you can blame the divmate 😄

[cunning lichen]

I mean

[honest silo]

Hey AALG.

[opal quarry]

You get my drift

[rustic hearth]

meow

[austere mango]

Ohoi Andrea.

[steel pier]

bongo cat

[cunning lichen]

I run gunboat Cassard and still with only 224k HE DPM, I beat most DDs in a gun fight

[opal quarry]

I mean

The issue is

You're discussing how gameplay against handless in randoms goes

[silent forge]

Good player beats bad player, more news at 10

[muted eagle]

Ohio?

[livid bridge]

Preussen

[tawdry turret]

Ahoy

[austere mango]

No... Andrea is Italian.. It would be Pizza then...

[cunning lichen]

I just want an excuse to talk about Gunboat Cassard really and truly. My beloved..

[muted eagle]

Bon Giorno Bello.

[cunning lichen]

Never knew Gunboat Cassard would be so good

[honest silo]

Correct, pizza.

[livid bridge]

I would rather talk about my Outnumbered TGG kitakami

[honest silo]

Hey Armordrive.

[untold thistle]

is the cassard line even good?

[cunning lichen]

Lighthouse Kitakami

[muted eagle]

You are italian? Hi, btw.

[cunning lichen]

Yes

[opal quarry]

Almost as if relying on an RNG armament like torpedoes was a suboptimal way to play the game

And investing into a more skill dependant armament like guns improves that inconsistency

[cunning lichen]

The only reason I kept coping for the torps was because of me getting like a 2 devstrike, double strike, and Kraken game using just the torps.

But then a realised that isnt showing up again

I thought the gun power was low for a ship that doesnt have a radar or smoke even with gun build

[honest silo]

Yes I am.

[cunning lichen]

But then I realised "french saturation" and insane speed boost

And neurons started firing

[whole gorge]

what if they added a reload booster to it

real shit

[cunning lichen]

TRB?

[whole gorge]

no

[cunning lichen]

If they gave it MBRB then it would just be a better Kleb

[steel pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1490693286434836630/anime-finger-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[coral herald]

It has marceau guns doesn't it?

[cunning lichen]

If they gave it TRB then it would just be a better Chataeu

[cunning lichen]

Yes but they have improved ballistics.

[coral herald]

Renault logan

[cunning lichen]

Better shell velocity and AP pen.

[coral herald]

Now thay sounds interesting

[cunning lichen]

Not by much

But it's better

[coral herald]

The only reason I haven't played Marceau is how shitty I am with bad ballistics

[cunning lichen]

Cassard has pretty average shell velocity.

[coral herald]

Is it like humphreys vs gearing?

[cunning lichen]

More like..

[muted eagle]

@honest silo how it feels that japanese created an anecdote clichee character and made him italian plumper and anyone just accepted that as fact?

[cunning lichen]

Hayate Daring??

[coral herald]

But daring has okay velocity, no?

[honest silo]

You mean Mario of Nintendo?

[muted eagle]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1489431188262223892/black-cat-void-cat-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[muted eagle]

Yes.

[cunning lichen]

Actually

[coral herald]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-smg4-supermarioglitchy4-gif-24311015

[cunning lichen]

They are around Z-42 levels.

[muted eagle]

Marceau has bad balistics?

[coral herald]

Daring?

[cunning lichen]

Which is pretty middle of the road

Better than Daring

[coral herald]

Dunno why I felt that daring's shell velocity is good. Maybe that's because of how close I fight against enemy DDs

Cap contesting and all

[silent forge]

Are you trying to say they’re good?

[cunning lichen]

A ship to compare it to would be like Halland levels

But slightly better

So it's better than most DDs

[untold thistle]

compared to kleb, yes

[honest silo]

I find it fine tbh as I like Nintende games.

[coral herald]

Halland also has pleasant ballistics

[muted eagle]

I played some other gun DD like German and Groeningen and they felt quite awful but marceau is better.

[honest silo]

I need to save a lot for USS Essex CV-9.

[cunning lichen]

Cassard isnt bad by any means

I would say though it is a harder hybrid to play due to the lack of smoke

[untold thistle]

marcus has worse ballistics

[muted eagle]

Was just a joke question but, ok.

[muted eagle]

Not worst but maybe its personal opinion.

[silent forge]

I had a look at the charts, between Marceau, Friesland and Z-52, Marceau does have slower flight time of the three

[honest silo]

I know it was a joke.

[silent forge]

Maybe personal difference is since Marceau is always on the move and you can stay closer to targets

Friesland sits in a smoke so the target could kite making it harder

[untold thistle]

better than gearing ballistics but worse than shima

[steel pier]

time again, for our Benson

[muted eagle]

Im more annoyed by the trajectory of lots of DDs.

[silent forge]

Trajectory? Like the shell ballistics?

[untold thistle]

honestly the stripes just remind me of prison uniforms

[muted eagle]

Yes, some of them shoots nearly vertically at mid distances.

[silent forge]

Well low calibre shells are like that, you can always play without AFT and/or range mod

[steel pier]

ocean soul camo, inspired by the french navy sailors shirt, but thoose have a 2:1 in how wide the stripes are. but the soviets said: no, they need to be equally in width. so this camo was created

[silent forge]

But like Marceau is known for have pretty terrible ballistics

[austere mango]

Everybody knows that stripes makes a vehicle go faster, whether its a car or a boat... Just be glad its not red stripes...

[untold thistle]

I can't really unsee the prison stripes pattern when I keep getting reminded of Cody

[steel pier]

i mean, technically, i imprisoned thoose us DDs into the kollektiv now, for prolonged time

[honest silo]

I prefer use their real camouflage with all honesty.

[silent forge]

You’re telling me you don’t use the bright pink candy camouflage?

Or the Atlanta beach island camo

By far the most superior camos

[honest silo]

Yeah tbh.

A part I don't have still Atlanta in port.

[livid bridge]

Atlanta island camo peak

[honest silo]

For my USS North Caroline BB-55 I will for sure use this one.

As she have the name on the spotter plane.

[livid bridge]

The original design contest when the original design is copypasta existing camo

[sweet latch]

the old NC model has tally markings on the bridge but have been removed IIRC

[coral herald]

NC my beloved

[honest silo]

Oh, nice.

[untold thistle]

boooooo

[coral herald]

My most played ship in the entire game

[honest silo]

Nice.

[coral herald]

I played it like for 500 battles across all modes

[honest silo]

But yeah North Carolina is a good ship.

[coral herald]

Absolutely

[honest silo]

I agree.

[silent forge]

Do you also convince your clan that you need to play NC in CBs?

[coral herald]

It's a shame I didn't get her premium version (NC CLR or Kheper) on my main account

[honest silo]

I never did Clan Battle with all honesty.

[coral herald]

What clan?

[sweet latch]

same thing happend to the "Underground" sign on London
The Glowworm marking on Hipper
The BurOrd Book and "Wet Floor sign" on Eugen
and who knows how many more Easter Eggs

[untold thistle]

shame

[silent forge]

Never mind, guess you don’t play CBs

[coral herald]

I'm in some asian clan where everyone speaks chinese and we occasionally do divs with awkward google translated messages

Yeah I don't

[steel pier]

[coral herald]

Is there steel in it?

[silent forge]

Yes

[honest silo]

Yeah.

[coral herald]

What the hepl

Time to learn chinese

[silent forge]

I normally get around 12k a season

Also why stay in that clan?

Why not find another

[coral herald]

Idk, for economic bonuses

[silent forge]

Other clans offer economic bonuses while providing English speaking bases etc etc

[coral herald]

They are chill and don't demand much contribution while their discounts and bonuses are on a decent level

[blazing quest]

Hats happening

[coral herald]

Birth

[blazing quest]

I’m giving birth?

[honest silo]

Hey thelegendformula.

[blazing quest]

Hello

[silent forge]

You can find other clans like that that offer more teamplay but if you like solo you like solo

[hybrid whale]

Thats getting clipped

[blazing quest]

Everything I say is getting clipped dear

[honest silo]

But yeah after I finished Essex, Worcester and Gearing line I have left to do Midway, Vermont, Louisiana, Burrows and Balao line to grind.

Hey andersswage.

[blazing quest]

I love clip farming

[coral herald]

Blud wasn't saying that nickname😭

[hybrid whale]

Here is the thing lets just not clip you

[honest silo]

I know.

[severe plank]

https://giphy.com/gifs/kitty-drawing-lying-in-bed-cat-6DPZpsFHl1J8Qd66hD

[blazing quest]

https://tenor.com/view/club-kiwi-kiwi-zhoomfie-komash-gif-15568377013299798808

[honest silo]

Hey Snorti_Boi.

[blazing quest]

@jagged patio caught the lurker

[jagged patio]

"lurker"

I just don't have anything to say

[blazing quest]

Yapping is required

[honest silo]

Hey Smolensk.

[jagged patio]

hi Andrea

looking forward to the upcoming update?

[honest silo]

Yep.

Can't wait to get USS Indianapolis CA-35, USS Atlanta CL-51 and USS Sims DD-409.

[gentle nova]

I’m getting USS My Dick next patch

[tawdry turret]

[rustic hearth]

...?

[honest silo]

I see.

[jagged patio]

trade in?

[radiant olive]

ahhhhh, we're back in the groove

[honest silo]

Yep, correct.

[jagged patio]

Nice

[honest silo]

But also excited for the Hunt for Bismarck.

I will use my HMS Rodney.

[honest silo]

Thanks.

[jagged patio]

I intend to trade Kearsarge in for something depending on where I can use the discount the best

[radiant olive]

hmmm

[honest silo]

I see.

[radiant olive]

4 days until my next steel coupon

[honest silo]

I'm going for 3 ships for sure, but not sure if try for 4.

I mean by getting USS Texas BB-35.

[radiant olive]

i wonder what ship i should get

[steel pier]

i get loyang, thats sure

[radiant olive]

is it in the list?

[steel pier]

[sweet latch]

the ship to get

[steel pier]

the ones, with check marks, i got alr

[radiant olive]

yup, i see it

[honest silo]

Which one is that?

[steel pier]

M*inz

[sweet latch]

Meins

[honest silo]

It's Mainz.

[radiant olive]

the only one on that list i do not yet have is vanguard i believe

[radiant olive]

i suppose i can trade in a coal bote for it

[jagged patio]

already got Mainz B

[honest silo]

I honestly don' have any of those Arden.

[sweet latch]

perfect timing to get the normal one then.
free 2500 gold

[radiant olive]

don't worry about it, i have a LOT of ships

[honest silo]

Nice.

[steel pier]

thats what i said. M*inz

[radiant olive]

and that doesn't include the harugumo line since it's been reset

[jagged patio]

wdym? wouldn't I lose the gold in that?

[sweet latch]

you get the Mission for the Black + Normal ship

[jagged patio]

Oh

I completely forgot that exists

[radiant olive]

iirc the black missions only trigger around black friday and for certain criteria

so getting it now wouldn't do you any good

[honest silo]

This are all I have.

[sweet latch]

the mission triggers when you get both

[jagged patio]

lkey the only ships I want to get are Weimar and Agincourt

[steel pier]

fill up with some italians next, then your port gets more filled

[honest silo]

Before I need to finish some lines I alredy started before doing italian ships.

[steel pier]

[radiant olive]

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/content/black-friday-ships-special-combat-missions/

yeah, it was only during the event that those missions appeared

https://worldofwarships.eu/en/news/sales-and-events/black-friday-2025/

so if you get mainz now while having mainz B, you will not get the dubs comp mission

[honest silo]

It's for avoid getting overwhelmed pretty much.

As I'm already doing 3 lines at the same time already.

[steel pier]

2/3 lines italy, sounds good

[jagged patio]

shame there isn't an option to exchange the B version for the normal one

[steel pier]

you can adapt their camo though

[honest silo]

I'm currently doing Essex, Worcester and Gearing line and learning to play them while improving in Randoms.

[livid bridge]

Wooster pog

[jagged patio]

still haven't quite figured out what line I want to go for next

[livid bridge]

Something hot like Wooster

[sweet latch]

maybe a T9 Wooster

[livid bridge]

🔥

[honest silo]

I'm almost at Cleveland.

But yeah going forward with the grind.

I'm also close to USS Fletcher DD-445 and USS Gearing DD-710.