game-discussion

[void relic]

lol

[plush oxide]

so WG sees

but maybe i should open a thread

[void relic]

why

[radiant olive]

they'll see through testing

[void relic]

its in testing for a reason

[plush oxide]

i'm aware

but I like talking about it

gets me something to do

[digital locust]

Why would you need a reason

Just complain for the sake of it

[plush oxide]

we're having game discussy moments

[steel pier]

i wait. since why not. also, i will get Cuauhtémoc regardless. since histo

[radiant olive]

fair enough, people complain about subs all the time without a reason

[cosmic swan]

WG should change the ap of this line to short fuse to make it a pure brawler

[steel pier]

btw, @void relic look at this

[obsidian oriole]

We don't even know much about these besides an overview of what they have

[fringe crow]

It's an open water farmer without HE and with poor maneuverability

[void relic]

👍

[steel pier]

[plush oxide]

did they say you recieve an improved heal at tier 9 and 10?

[cosmic swan]

no smoke, not good concealment, focus on hunting enemy dds and blow them with short time dmg burst

just like marceau

[plush oxide]

from the way I look at it you barely get the same amount of healing as daring

[steel pier]

thats the IX

the X

so, they get a repair

[plush oxide]

14 x 188 = 2632

is this an improved heal??

[cosmic swan]

daring is 10% in 10 seconds

this new dd is 14% in 14 seconds

[steel pier]

well, like mentioned. thoose are subject to change

so, i say, lets wait

[void relic]

their ap could probably arm on delny midsection

😨

[plush oxide]

delny is

about 10 or 12 knots faster

than these ships

just run away

[honest silo]

The AP of what ship?

[void relic]

i aint a BITCH

id win

[steel pier]

the new DDs

[mental sundial]

should I play wows today

[cosmic swan]

fighting against delny is probably one of the worst attempt a dd would ever try

[honest silo]

Pan American one right?

[steel pier]

[honest silo]

I see.

[plush oxide]

Khaba is worse

[void relic]

my delny is 9.1 conceal anyway

any dd who is foolish enough to open up the moment im spotted

[honest silo]

I honestly like a lot this camouflage for Montana.

[void relic]

is not gonna hit me while i will easily pelt them

[plush oxide]

have you fought khabas

[void relic]

unless enemy dd also has railguns like khaba/lushun

i have actually

i managed to outdamage a khaba

😊

[cosmic swan]

khaba have bad aiming angles so you can both deal high dmg to each other for salvo

[void relic]

khaba has a lot more 50mm plates you can shit on with ap

[drifting marlin]

just got the update - Irizar has 30mm he pen as expected

[steel pier]

as long, as ARM Cuauhtémoc will seve me well in Ops, its fine

[obsidian oriole]

This line will work for me just fine with grinding

[drifting marlin]

initial stat in the devblog said 25mm which was a mistake, should be updated

[fringe crow]

Smokeless gunboats with weak torps tend to be the most difficult ships for ops

[cosmic swan]

so why adding ap secondaries to this ship, its just inconsistent with the rest of the features

[void relic]

for the funny

[obsidian oriole]

I don't really think it'll matter anyways

[steel pier]

i played through Le Terrible and Mogador, i can do this too

[obsidian oriole]

This thing looks to be a main gun cruiser anyways

[mental sundial]

Ita sub buff

[steel pier]

but this alr makes my heart jump higher. sub buffs

i will be having a blast

[cosmic swan]

I can say everyone playing this weird cruiser will eventually return to full main battery build and farm dmg in smoke

[obsidian oriole]

Changes to their main guns. Huh. Pretty weird thing they're doing with them

[void relic]

psst jetro

[mental sundial]

only people who know are the testers

[cosmic swan]

unless you wanna be blown up the moment your secondaries starts to fire

[mental sundial]

and i hate testers

[void relic]

testers are stinky

[steel pier]

its fine. i am main torps anyways. guns are maybe to bully thoose transports in Narai or Killer Whale

[wheat cobalt]

consider taking a shower

[obsidian oriole]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-no-oh-no-anyway-gif-18887547

[void relic]

not me

i smell like lavender

[mental sundial]

Red spitting straight facts

[wheat cobalt]

as per usual

[obsidian oriole]

I think making a sub line with smoke and main gun CI is just

Weird

[void relic]

also pot meet kettle

[wheat cobalt]

🥀

[steel pier]

you only shower in the golden light of Cheshire today

[mental sundial]

the secondary cl might be slop I’m afraid

[wheat cobalt]

might be meme

[mental sundial]

same with the DDs

[obsidian oriole]

I don't think thats light

Or gold

[wheat cobalt]

hol up

[mental sundial]

holding

[void relic]

holding

[wheat cobalt]

thanks

you can hold that for me

[steel pier]

holding

[plush oxide]

can we hold that thought

[obsidian oriole]

I don't think it'll be that bad

[plush oxide]

can we talk about the spanish duncan

[void relic]

surv isnt carrying

[wheat cobalt]

let that sink in]

[void relic]

im doing the heavy lifting

[steel pier]

no thanks

[fringe crow]

Spaint Vincent

[obsidian oriole]

And this CL doesn't look like something you'd build for secondaries

[steel pier]

looks alr boring to me

[severe plank]

wtf is that cl

[fringe crow]

Vickers 1124A

[vague cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/correct-futurama-the-best-kind-of-correct-yes-yep-gif-5787390

[cosmic swan]

british hull

[strange mulch]

No, a sink killed my father, damn filthy sinks

[cosmic swan]

definitely huge citadel

[severe plank]

It seems like bait trying to use those ap secondaries on a cl hull

[cosmic swan]

prepare to enjoy deletion

[obsidian oriole]

The hull doesn't matter. Its the amount of guns and their calibers that make it likely inefficient at secondaries. Better main gun building it from how it looks

[plush oxide]

https://tenor.com/view/well-in-that-case-yo-mama-well-case-gif-14405034452477075435

[cosmic swan]

of course

[mental sundial]

I always carry

[cosmic swan]

I mean if they give it a exhaustive smoke I can still consider secondaries

[mental sundial]

I’m just sick right now

[obsidian oriole]

AP secondaries are also not gonna be that big of a threat

[cosmic swan]

a standard smoke then I'd better play main batteries instead

[plush oxide]

mark my words

[obsidian oriole]

Unlike SAP even, the ammo becomes useless at a bow in

[plush oxide]

they're gonna release an AP secondary libertad

in the future

[obsidian oriole]

Meh

[steel pier]

dont give them ideas

[cosmic swan]

234mm ap raining on your deck

[obsidian oriole]

You'd only overmatch a Minotaur with that

[cosmic swan]

oh no

we are so dead

[void relic]

16mm overmatch secondaries

you can overmatch all cruisers superstructure with that!

[obsidian oriole]

AP secondaries problem is unlike HE, or SAP even, they are gonna be useless on a lot of ships when they go bow in

[plush oxide]

okay but

who is going bow in against a secondary ship

[void relic]

a stalingrad

[cosmic swan]

just kite and angle

[obsidian oriole]

One they know that has AP secondaries

[plush oxide]

you get the choice of limiting your firepower against them or using all your guns

and not being able to retreat

[obsidian oriole]

Cool

Need I remind you that the hull only has a 87mm belt

[cosmic swan]

without improved ricochet angle these ap secondaries will just bounce most of the time

[plush oxide]

they probably will get

improved richochet

lets be real

[maiden totem]

I remember Nagato used to be a decent 2ndary ship in the AP days, with those 140mm guns ripping apart british CLs.

[obsidian oriole]

Sometimes

[steel pier]

at least, she wont become a menace like Valpapper, sec spam

[obsidian oriole]

It was lucky hits at most that could do it

But the AP secondaries missed a ton back then

And were useless again, at bow in

[maiden totem]

true true, but at point blank range, melts

[cosmic swan]

val is overpowered in its machanics

[honest silo]

How much Research Points is USS Ohio BB-68?

[obsidian oriole]

62,000

[plush oxide]

we can actually talk about AP secondary performance because we know what they used to do

[steel pier]

ik

[cosmic swan]

its hull is quite bad actually

[obsidian oriole]

Anyways. I'm not too sure about the secondary potential of this one

[steel pier]

but. if thoose new secs would have become annoying too, i'd had a new nuisance

[maiden totem]

yeah, you go bow in to AP 2ndaries and they can hurt you jack.

[honest silo]

Thanks Jetro.

[obsidian oriole]

It has almost none really. Its 120mm guns, which won't overmatch shit

[obsidian oriole]

And they're in a 2 centerline, 2 each side layout

Which means 4x2 120mm at most to one target

[steel pier]

welp, Regele Carol I has more prob, 3x2 per side

[obsidian oriole]

This looks like a main gun cruiser that just got a gimmicky secondary thing, but won't actually be good at it

[fringe crow]

3x2 < 4x2

[cosmic swan]

I guess wg have assumed that panam tech tree ships are either focusing on secondaries or ap only

[wheat cobalt]

so

[obsidian oriole]

This looks by all ends, to be a main gun cruiser

[wheat cobalt]

anyone figured out why play Colbert when Hawaii exists?

[cosmic swan]

so they create a ship that focus on ap only secondaries

[steel pier]

i dont see 4 twin guns on the picture

[obsidian oriole]

It has 2 centerline

[maiden totem]

honestly, i think we just gotta wait and see, there were some ships that got announced, everyone thought they would be ship, and turned out awesome.

[obsidian oriole]

2 on each side

The centerline super fire over the main turrets

[dry osprey]

Is the Rhode Island any good still??

[obsidian oriole]

Yes

[fringe crow]

It's the hexagonal layout like on US cruisers

[honest silo]

Yes she is good.

[obsidian oriole]

It also will only allow 8 guns at most for secondaries, which is quite a little armament

[dry osprey]

sweet gonna get her for Bf

[maiden totem]

What Jetro is saying is the 2ndaries on this new cruiser are in the layout as the main guns on tier III BB Nassau

[honest silo]

Nice.

[cosmic swan]

and there are many times that initial stats are very good and then get nerfed to garbage level

[obsidian oriole]

I'm not too sure about nerfing

[steel pier]

but all in total, 6x2

[obsidian oriole]

And only 4x2 can be used on a single enemy because of the layout

[steel pier]

and Carol also has thoose many, 3 per side

6 total

[honest silo]

Of what ship?

[steel pier]

Almirante Irizar

[obsidian oriole]

But this ship just plainly, doesn't look good for secondaries

[steel pier]

the new

[maiden totem]

who knows, maybe this thing'll turn out similar to and yet totally different to the Napoli

[cosmic swan]

anyway

[obsidian oriole]

Napoli has far more armament for secondaries

[steel pier]

i prob will stick to my Romanian. since why not

[maiden totem]

true, but folks were skeptical about her on reveal, right.

[obsidian oriole]

And an ammo type that won't ricochet at a bow end

[honest silo]

Oh, ok I see.

[steel pier]

what, you mean abt Regele Carol I?

[maiden totem]

Napoli...

i was

[steel pier]

i wasnt there on Napoli release

[fringe crow]

Also a T8 big gun cruiser and a T10 CL is unquestionably an apples to oranges comparison

[cosmic swan]

never expect those balance

[honest breach]

got teh cummingem

[maiden totem]

well, i do know that if you throw an apple at a doctor, you keep em away for a day.

[obsidian oriole]

I just don't think this will be a good secondary cruiser. But looks good for main gun AP

[cosmic swan]

you have he afterall

farm with he, and if someone is making turns hit them hard with ap salvo

[steel pier]

still, if it has the same amount of secs, but less range. then i dont need it, since my Carole I has longer sec range and i dont need to play X, where Liberted, Schlöürffen and others of this kind zoom around, with their broken secondaries.

[obsidian oriole]

Its CI boosts main gun AP damage

As well

[void relic]

go my ap shower

[obsidian oriole]

In that aspect. Good for main guns

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cats-cat-meme-meme-meme-cat-gif-14470917232397934693

[fringe crow]

Then what's the point in the comparison with RCI if the tier alone is enough to turn you off of the ship

[lucid wagon]

Because Colbert is fun

[fringe crow]

They're just not comparable ships

[cosmic swan]

this irizar have the same he dpm as brisbane

also have smoke

[steel pier]

i did the comparison as a conclusion.......after investigating, if this ship is worth it and the conclusion is pretty simple

[cosmic swan]

so it's definitely capable of farming

just forget its secondaries in advance

[fringe crow]

Coming to a conclusion on a ship by comparing it to a wildly different one

[topaz coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/gotg-what-chris-pratt-starlord-guardians-of-the-galaxy-gif-11287925

What are those ships

[cosmic swan]

oh btw if we compare irizar to british cl then its 25mm plating is pretty good

[obsidian oriole]

Irizar I have as most likely next dockyard ship

[topaz coyote]

Why does the TX DD go 32 knots and the battleship 32.5

[cosmic swan]

now I see why they made a ship without eye catching features like this

[honest breach]

what the

how you spell this

[honest silo]

Hey elmir.

[fringe crow]

The way it's spelled there

[honest breach]

its harder than french

💀

guacamola

i will just call it guacamola

[fringe crow]

Cuauhtemoc isn't that hard

[steel pier]

i was solely comparing secs for this case. since total number is the same. and secs work for me as self defense close range to cripple DDs. nothing more. and with this, i leave it at that, since i dont ramble around for hours. it was simple and short

[obsidian oriole]

We're also overdue for a T10 dockyard, along with a cruiser one

[honest silo]

Yeah Cuauhtémoc.

[steel pier]

simple: Cuauhtémoc

[honest silo]

Oh, new dockyard is coming?

[fringe crow]

"How is it spelled" he says producing the very word SPELLED OUT

[steel pier]

i remember, i did a history presentation once, about Columbus, the new World and in wider range the Aztec Empire. man, my classmates were impressed, how well i trained spellinc aztec names in preparation for it

and all learned from playing Age of Empires

[upbeat prawn]

AL Cuauhtémoc, hmmm.... a brown-skinned Andean girl? Sign me up for that!

[steel pier]

not andean

middle american

[obsidian oriole]

No. I just believe Irizar will most likely be the next one

[cosmic swan]

I skipped the current dockyard

[topaz coyote]

:weirdchamp: DDs

[sterile thistle]

Hi, has something changed in the game recently? I am losing like 500k+ credits per battle. Playing same ships, mostly TX, same setup, usually make credits not lose, what's going on?!

[topaz coyote]

Do you equip flags?

[honest silo]

Of what nation is that? Spain?

[obsidian oriole]

Pan America

[tardy tree]

49

[topaz coyote]

Signals I mean

[steel pier]

also, why not Cuauhtémoc as next unique pan am commander, sign me up for this one

💪

[honest silo]

Oh, ok.

[upbeat prawn]

Make for one hell of a camo

[cosmic swan]

cuauhtemoc pronounce like Baltimore somehow

[honest silo]

I don't know if I will do it or no.

[steel pier]

cant wait for next week, to get rid of unloved ships and get Loyang

[cosmic swan]

oh next week

the week when ocean is dead and essex dominates the sky again

[honest silo]

I just bought today USS Yorktown CV-5.

[topaz coyote]

'again'

Lmao

[honest silo]

And only miss 1 sister.

[topaz coyote]

Status quo remains

One toxic ships less

[river dune]

Essex has always dominated though

it's a goofy cv

[steel pier]

as long as i dont need to fight AI Essex soon in Ops, i dont care

[normal lark]

does hydroacoustic search better or extend the find radius of the objects it lists

[cosmic swan]

soon they will nerf shinano after selling enough al shinanos

[topaz coyote]

Good.

[steel pier]

idc

[honest silo]

Oh, also I still need to watch your replay, I will for sure do it tomorrow AFKaveman.

[steel pier]

AL Shinano supremacy 4ever

[honest silo]

I don't think they will do that.

[cosmic swan]

yes they will

[steel pier]

why need to win, when you can listen constantly to Sleepy Kitsune ASMR

[cosmic swan]

cvs are always on the top of wg's nerf list

[normal lark]

som1 please

[topaz coyote]

https://tenor.com/view/pepelaugh-tea-sipping-sip-hatecult-gif-21051294

[honest silo]

They will spot torpedo and submarine.

[cosmic swan]

at the same time subs are still being buffed

[steel pier]

hydro searches for torps and ?all ships? (i forgor) and basically extents torp detection range

[honest silo]

But yeah I honestly hope to get USS Enterprise CV-6 one day.

[steel pier]

hope, soon we get turkish and romanian voicelines too. im tired of eng and germ on thoose ships

[cosmic swan]

it won't be far

[honest silo]

Yeah.

[cosmic swan]

containers in 15.5

[honest silo]

I would for sure buy them.

As I need USS Bridgeport CA-127.

[wheat cobalt]

looks neat ig

[shell temple]

@wheat cobalt weak 2026 BB design trust

[wheat cobalt]

fr

[shell temple]

its bad because only 9 guns (Trust)

[honest silo]

And also the other outside of Hornet, Alabama, Tennessee, Tulsa and Halford.

[lucid wagon]

Bad cuz 406mm

Super weak!!

[honest silo]

Enterprise?

[wheat cobalt]

ye

[shell temple]

😱

[wheat cobalt]

mmm

[shell temple]

buff Thor asap

[honest silo]

Nice.

I have the commemorative flag of Enterprise.

[wheat cobalt]

idk what car to play

[lucid wagon]

You need AT LEAST 510mm to stay relevant

[lucid wagon]

Sevastopol

[wheat cobalt]

...

[shell temple]

Thor

Slava

[cosmic swan]

if you don't know what to play

then just go off line

[honest silo]

Moskva?

[steel pier]

swap valpapper heals with the one from sewastopol

[cosmic swan]

one moment of hesitation and you will pick a ship and receive another defeat in random

[radiant olive]

you talking about the italian subs?

[cosmic swan]

not only them

I mean in general there aren't any major nerfs to subs for months

[normal lark]

anyways does radar extend spotting range by 10km or improve it within 10 km?

[cosmic swan]

and the removal of fighter spotting is another buff to them

[radiant olive]

how about the air spotting range buff for surface ships

that's a nerf to subs

[drifting marlin]

spots anything on surface within its radius

[river dune]

it lets you spot anything within range and at the right depth at 10km, even if there's islands inbetween you and the target

[cosmic swan]

not much

if you just float on water

[river dune]

jinx

[normal lark]

same goes for hydro?

just more specific.

[river dune]

more or less yes, the hydro consumable itself tells you the distance it spots torps and ships

[drifting marlin]

hydro detects subs at depth and torpedoes as well

[honest silo]

True.

[drifting marlin]

but otherwise similar mechanically

[cosmic swan]

that was intended to nerf spotting ability for cvs

[little abyss]

Hydro should spot subs at depth at the same distance they spot torps

[radiant olive]

don't matter, also still a nerf to subs

[little abyss]

Unify it

[tepid socket]

hydro has shorter range, but it spots torps, subs at depth, and lasts way longer

[honest silo]

I'm watching the first video of G4ng of basic in Randoms about the Des Moines and it's very interessing and also helping.

[dusk dagger]

I just watched the latest sea lord video and now have the latest information about this game.

[wheat cobalt]

picking sevas was a mistake

[radiant olive]

nah, that'd make things incredibly convoluted to see where your max safe range is

[normal lark]

within that range it guarantees spots torps and subs and what not?

[mental sundial]

sevas is not umapyoi

[little abyss]

You can still hover over it

[normal lark]

same as radar

[wheat cobalt]

ye

[normal lark]

because it's really unspecific

[little abyss]

In menu

[cosmic swan]

never guaranteed

[normal lark]

thx

[little abyss]

It’d be fine

[normal lark]

wdym

[tepid socket]

it spots them all at diff ranges

[radiant olive]

no because that will give the max theoretical value including skills

[normal lark]

yeah

[cosmic swan]

subs can only be spotted by hydro if its not in maximum depth

[normal lark]

but within the respective ranges

[radiant olive]

EHHHHH, WRONG

[little abyss]

Two ranges to think about for the hydro instead of 3

[river dune]

honestly hovering over the consumable will tell you everything you need to know

[cosmic swan]

and if in maximum depth you still need to come within 2km

[radiant olive]

spots subs at 2km at depth

[cosmic swan]

with your hydro

[little abyss]

Also makes chasing down at depth subs much less annoying

[normal lark]

lies

[cosmic swan]

ignored

[little abyss]

They can get a small speed buff to compensate or something

[honest silo]

Lushun is of China right?

[normal lark]

what if their not at maximum depth?

[tepid socket]

bros flexxing test ships

[cosmic swan]

then hydro can spot them within range

[tepid socket]

pan asia

[normal lark]

within whats range

hydros range

the subs range

[cosmic swan]

hydro range

[normal lark]

like imma be honest the description tell you nothing

[steel pier]

oh dear, my wreck slowed down the freighter and got it killed

[steel pier]

ofc

[normal lark]

so this range

cuz theres no set "hydro range"

[dusk dagger]

real hydro can detect hundreds of km.

[river dune]

yes it's a Chinese ship in game, it's a Neustra* hull

[tepid socket]

https://tenor.com/view/aesthetic-skull-gif-20895944

[fringe crow]

Neustrashimy, not Tashkent

[radiant olive]

@little abyss how about this
Radar and hydro detect subs as per normal on the surface
Radar gets a minimap update every 5-10 seconds if the sub is at periscope
Hydro gets the same but at periscope, 30m and 60m

Both out to max range

[cosmic swan]

If you have a standar hydro with surface detectbility 5km and torp 3.5km, then for any ship and subs at surface/periscope depth you can spot them within 5km, for subs at maximum depth you still need to within 2km

[radiant olive]

doesn't give you an instant ASW button, but makes both radar and hydro more useful and allows skilled players to minimap ASW drop

[woven marsh]

Oh really?

[wheat cobalt]

anyways

why was sevas not buffed

instead we buffed sherman

can't get over that

[cosmic swan]

why does it need buff

buff what

[tepid socket]

its the best ship in the game

[cosmic swan]

dpm of colbert level?

[tepid socket]

duh

[normal lark]

is fire chance per shell or per salvo?

[radiant olive]

per shell

[cosmic swan]

or 32mm plating to make it able to bounce 457mm with bow

[normal lark]

impossible

[hybrid whale]

or 36mm

[honest silo]

I see and thanks.

[little abyss]

Nah would rather tie it to torp spotting on the hydro because that feels like a nice sweet spot between 2km ‘have fun trying to run down a sub in the minute and a half of hydro you have’ and ‘you’ve been zoned by my 7km Clausewitz hydro’

[hybrid whale]

how so

[normal lark]

if im playing alaska with a 37% for fires and land every shell

[tepid socket]

how

[normal lark]

that is lit a guaranteed fire or not

[tepid socket]

it means each shell has a chance to set fire

[normal lark]

dont stack eh?

[cosmic swan]

every shell calculates fire chance independently

[little abyss]

The only thing that affects hydro torp spotting afaik is the bb 2 pter anyway and that could use some mild love

[steel pier]

cuz they ignore the need for some better heal and or gun parameters

[normal lark]

a shame it is

[steel pier]

🥀

[radiant olive]

just because your shells have a 37% fire chance doesn't mean they'll set a fire 37% of the time

[tepid socket]

no

[radiant olive]

the enemy may have fire prevention

[hybrid whale]

yeah that means each shell has a 1 in 3 chance

[radiant olive]

which reduces fire chance

there's also a built-in fire % reduction against higher tiers

[cosmic swan]

not to mention there is fire chance reduction for every ship

[radiant olive]

or rather, they have a built in resistance vs fires

and it gets higher the higher tier you go

[cosmic swan]

acceptable

[normal lark]

whats a good % for fires

[cosmic swan]

now shikishima is no longer a problem

[radiant olive]

depends

[hybrid whale]

my kearsarge would like to have a word with that cause she catches fires like crazy

[radiant olive]

what's the gun caliber

[cosmic swan]

still need to be aware of stealthy incomparables

[steel pier]

i remember, when they advertised me Marco Polo as having good fire resistance.
first round: i burned litterally every half minute. it was ridiculous 🥀

[hybrid whale]

5 and above for fast firing and 15 and above for high volume slow and 30s for slow low volume

[radiant olive]

yeah and my subs tend to get set on fire by that 1 stray DD shell that catches me as i'm diving

[hybrid whale]

it sucks but kear kinda gets it cause airstrip mounted to the middle

[steel pier]

subs shouldnt burn on the outside while being underwater. and yes, it is an outside fire i see each time

[cosmic swan]

subs should be deleted from this game

[steel pier]

even sinking ships, who have fire on deck, its getting extinguished when they sink

[cosmic swan]

always

[steel pier]

[tepid socket]

they should burn in hell instead

https://tenor.com/view/burn-sick-omg-omfg-dead-gif-4802144

[hybrid whale]

subs are a glorious thing even if you clearly aint part of the master race of WG hierchy

[steel pier]

if you think, this was such an awesome statement, as the GIF implies, then wait till you are sober again

[wheat cobalt]

me watching as I get 2 overpens on broadside suzuya with my sevastopol

that ship

bets everything on these guns

and they still suck

62k RP

btw

[tepid socket]

https://tenor.com/view/lion-sigma-alpha-how-bro-felt-after-saying-that-sigma-lion-gif-13957304746104521882

[tepid socket]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1432170441513893928/1495477819915108487/togif.gif

[cosmic swan]

sneaky little ship that even a pure noob can chase the whole enemy team if they know how to submerge

[steel pier]

~~nice strawman, infact, i am cmpletely emotionless most times, especially around here. ~~

[hybrid whale]

https://tenor.com/view/typh-pipe-down-pookie-gif-12605730726110954252

[limber sky]

what is that 719mm

[tardy tree]

[cosmic swan]

armor piercing ability

[tepid socket]

penetration

you literally got the mod that shows it

[limber sky]

how tf doesnt vermont have like 400 ish mm penetration

[steel pier]

[tepid socket]

different ranges

[hybrid whale]

i have 200mm penetrations

[cosmic swan]

457mm doesn't means 457mm pen

[little abyss]

719mm at 6km is pretty standard for that caliber

[cosmic swan]

caliber only decides overmatch

[tepid socket]

i penetrated in your mom

then left her and blocked her

then went for your dad

[hybrid whale]

jokes on you i dont have one

[honest silo]

Sevastopol right?

[tardy tree]

calm down

[wheat cobalt]

yes

[warm pier]

"radar mino has less battle impact than a bb"

okay...

[tepid socket]

https://tenor.com/view/ohio-understandtion-ishowspeed-i-show-speed-meme-i-understand-gif-9531605524435595922

[limber sky]

so satsuma prolly has 1000m penetration or soemthing

[hybrid whale]

which one

[tepid socket]

all of them

[hybrid whale]

im a sesbian love child

[ivory gale]

Is 'invite a friend' still a thing? I can't figure out how to get my link for a friend

[steel pier]

[steel pier]

holy Panzerkampfwagen VI Ausführung B Tiger II

[honest silo]

Hey Chanderlin long time no see.

[cosmic swan]

why are we suddenly coming to homosexual

[hybrid whale]

just open recruitment station through the website

[vague cedar]

Not even close to that value bruh

[ivory gale]

Hi!

[limber sky]

oh so 510 mm is the size of the shell

[tepid socket]

chandler from mr beast

[limber sky]

and 790mm is the peneration capability

[steel pier]

who knows, better not think too much abt it

[cosmic swan]

its the diameter of the shell

that diameter only affects whether that ap shell would bounce on some armor

[ivory gale]

idk what it wants from me 🥀

I need to invite a person, not get invited by someone else

[vague cedar]

In fact - none of the AP in this game can pen 1000mm of armor LOL

[hybrid whale]

if you use a invite you can get the bonus and then you can prop invite someone else

[cosmic swan]

for most of the t10 bbs the penetration is more than 800mm soon after fired

[warm raft]

What server?

[ivory gale]

eu

[deep swan]

it's going to make you use an invite first for some reason

[warm raft]

https://warships.net/black_falcon120

[cosmic swan]

but we do have one with 999mm penetration

guess who

[hybrid whale]

nah i need more myself

[tepid socket]

inconsistent?

[warm raft]

I don’t have ‘that’ many recruits 💀

[tepid socket]

shiki?

[steel pier]

vulture

[cosmic swan]

no

[limber sky]

nah i dont its from a yt vid, do you know what the mod name is

[river dune]

i never noticed but the cars on this island actually drive around

[tepid socket]

its pen calculator

[cosmic swan]

it's a ship removed from game quite a while ago

[tepid socket]

on aslain

[warm pier]

what happen to satsuma

and incomp

[hybrid whale]

i have none

[ivory gale]

Seems like replacing the name with mine works for my friend but we're yet to figure that out cause an account has to be created first
Do we have any good invite codes?

[warm raft]

Yes

Xvoyage

[cosmic swan]

its the replacable shell of vyazma

[warm raft]

I’ve only got 117 🙁

[topaz coyote]

[vague cedar]

[warm raft]

@ivory gale this guide explains how to do it step by step https://docs.google.com/document/d/1O147p3xARi2z9Cj765Ru2itRViwu7jE5s_1079Mtmt4/edit?usp=sharing

[hybrid whale]

i can give proof

[warm raft]

WARNING: it has my recruit link in it

[cosmic swan]

then maybe we used a different stat

the one i used have french 431 with 969 pen at maximum

[hybrid whale]

imcurrently in game

[vague cedar]

I guess your calculator starts at 0km

[cosmic swan]

maybe

[mental sundial]

supertesters more like, poopertesters

[vague cedar]

Though 0km firing range is pretty much impractical for any setting in the game

[sudden meadow]

Definitely does

[vague cedar]

Did you get trolled by some1?

[mental sundial]

yeah

test ship buffs

grr i hate supertesters

[honest silo]

Hey SurveillanceRadarEnjoyer.

[topaz coyote]

:(

[mental sundial]

don’t tell me you applied to be a supertester

[topaz coyote]

I passed

[vague cedar]

Who - me?

[mental sundial]

grr i hate you now

[topaz coyote]

🥹

[vague cedar]

Oh you mean Gl4ss

[river dune]

[mental sundial]

congrats on graduating though

[topaz coyote]

Thanks

[vague cedar]

[mental sundial]

one of the STA lessons was during my actual graduation

[topaz coyote]

Oof

I was lucky that all that happened in the middle of the semester

Nothing happened

[mental sundial]

so what now

[topaz coyote]

We wait

And see if I get picked

[vague cedar]

Thank Lords i didn't apply to STA

[topaz coyote]

Or get benched for an undefined amount of time

[vague cedar]

[steel pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1179482944700698785/1437133247237591082/caption.gif

[topaz coyote]

Helo

[steel pier]

ST, Gl4ss soon?

[topaz coyote]

Maybe

[torn dome]

Always bet on nothing

[steel pier]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-fish-ai-cat-ai-gif-gif-12752290148466324996

[warm raft]

Oh, uma isn’t dead 🙁

[topaz coyote]

I am on my knees I get to do the cool stuff

[vague cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439554347091493028/1481648976561442910/amagi-akagi_hug.gif

[steel pier]

wut?

[warm raft]

People seemed to have stopped posting it here

[steel pier]

im not even an uma player

[trail salmon]

Oof

Are you allowed absences

[warm pier]

radar mino prob most game impact indeed

[honest silo]

One question guys.

[topaz coyote]

Ew

[warm raft]

???

[trail salmon]

Congrats on graduating

[topaz coyote]

Thanks

[wispy edge]

Is the GK worth putting in effort to get/buying with coal or $?

[steel pier]

Navy

[fringe crow]

No

[blazing dock]

neither

[warm pier]

yes

[blazing dock]

unless you want to use it for trade in

just use coal

[vague cedar]

Now we wait for you to become a Privateer
IYKYK

[warm pier]

its a fun ship overall

[hybrid whale]

ive managed to deck a ops on fucking time of all things

[honest silo]

Sorry autocorrector of my phone.

[honest silo]

It was my autocorrector Sorry.

[mental sundial]

no

now we bully gl4ss_heart for getting test ships buffed and blame him saying he plays poorly

[wispy edge]

If it makes any difference since you have differing opinions, i enjoy ships like Schlieffen, Italian BBs, sometimes japanese BBs

schlieffen is my favorite though

[fringe crow]

If you play randoms GK will just be pain

If you play PvE then GK will be alright but not a standout

[wispy edge]

The massive health pool, guns, and secondaries are the main reasons i want it though because Ive never had a BB that wasnt low HP

[honest silo]

The cost of all perma camouflage of Tech Tree ship for Vermont line, Montana/Maine line, Louisiana line, Jacksonville line, Annapolis line, J. Humphreys line, Burrows line, Balao line, United States line and Essex line cost around 6300 Doubloons right?

[fringe crow]

If you want a tanky ship with secondaries the PanAm line is always there

[blazing dock]

you are still dying fast with that humongous superstructure kek

[wispy edge]

so whats a superior option, is finishing the Preussen/Hanover line worth it?

[tardy tree]

it seems he is angry to me

[fringe crow]

GK hemorrhages that large hp pool through its superstructure

[hybrid whale]

look at my depression

[warm pier]

its decent

[honest silo]

Or no?

[warm pier]

superstructure takes a bunch of damage

health pool is nice but not great

guns are average

secondaries are worth building int

[honest silo]

True, but the 420mm sound is really nice.

[vague cedar]

Chat box unavailable - switching to chat wheel

[wispy edge]

so all in all i should just save my coal?

[tardy tree]

[wispy edge]

is it worth trying the Preussen line then or no

[ivory gale]

hp and armor are ok but you get funni big ass superstructure and you will eat a crapload of white damage with shells penetrating your hull when not maintaining sharp enough angle
secondaries are ok, guns are whatever, 420mm has literally no advantage over 406

[mental sundial]

I’d lose my marbles if dihtuan was an st or even a privateer too

[fringe crow]

If you want a tanky secondary BB with 420 mm guns you genuinely can't beat Libertad

[tardy tree]

i dont remember how was the line but i like preussen

[vague cedar]

Gotta ask you this one first
What mode do you usually play - PvP or PvE?

[honest silo]

Same.

[hybrid whale]

bismarck is kinda annoying cause dispersion is kinda mid

[honest silo]

I honestly like Bismarck for her history.

[vague cedar]

*cough cough

[wispy edge]

PvP always PvE is 👎

[vague cedar]

[tardy tree]

[vague cedar]

Then Preussen line is out of the question

[honest silo]

As it's also one of the phew German Tech Tree ship I have with Permanent Camouflage.

[river dune]

I wouldnt worry too much about collecting perma camos, rip eco bonuses

we miss ouroboros and dragon flags

[wheat cobalt]

who is we?

[honest silo]

I see.

[wispy edge]

that makes sense because i never see it in PvP

was just curious

[vague cedar]

This is getting pretty funny ngl

[honest silo]

I have in plan for the Major to only buy them for all USN ship at the moment tbh AFKaveman.

[trail salmon]

Uhh

[mental sundial]

rahh i hate you

[trail salmon]

He is

[mental sundial]

gz tho

idk what they do

but imagine having homework for wows

[trail salmon]

I got rejected

[tardy tree]

[mental sundial]

yeah grow a few years lil bro

[trail salmon]

:P

[wheat cobalt]

tragic

[vague cedar]

Now now - you're at a different server than mine
Don't be so doom and gloom about it

[mental sundial]

“sorry babe I can’t come over tonight, I have to do my wows homework”

[vague cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1439554347091493028/1481648976561442910/amagi-akagi_hug.gif

[trail salmon]

What wows player has a gf 😭

[wheat cobalt]

not a single one

[vague cedar]

Bold of you to assume i have a gf to be worried about

Now that i think about it

[hybrid whale]

Same

[indigo mountain]

Classic

[hybrid whale]

Me

[indigo mountain]

Did you do yours already

[iron harness]

why i got Missouri

[indigo mountain]

For the "Finals"

[hybrid whale]

Nice

[river dune]

I have a wife

[honest silo]

Nice.

Hey VoidTemplar.

[steel pier]

sentenced to a 1000 years of submarine service

[honest silo]

Good night guys see you all tomorrow and have fun.

[hybrid whale]

Gn

[trail salmon]

Well uhhh

[vague cedar]

Someone isn't old enough, i see

[trail salmon]

The average wows player no have gf

[vague cedar]

[trail salmon]

Yep

[steel pier]

fr

[trail salmon]

Can't sign the nda

[hybrid whale]

Im below average and I got a gf

[steel pier]

bold to assume, i as wows player, have time for a gf

[warm raft]

[river dune]

bro is too busy grinding credits

[trail salmon]

I need muh jinan

[void relic]

jinan?

i trusted you

[steel pier]

you dont "need it" you want it, big difference

[void relic]

and you turn into a jinan main?

[trail salmon]

Uhhhh

[hybrid whale]

Ik

[lament birch]

Man i dont kno why looking at the pan am DD's makes me literal think about nothing burger

[vague cedar]

Yeah just smite him for this transgression

[steel pier]

see. trust no david, trust your fellow german

[trail salmon]

I just need to finish jinan

[void relic]

tell it to the judge

[steel pier]

finished, now move on

[hybrid whale]

I just gotta finish shooting my load on jinan

[steel pier]

https://tenor.com/view/the-death-of-stalin-meme-soviet-anti-soviet-behavior-guilty-gif-27253033

[hybrid whale]

What so i cant dev strike jinans anymore

[vague cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466889497705709579/1502728978543284404/14.gif

[wheat cobalt]

we should remove shima from the game

[steel pier]

this sounded all the wrong. ||~~and next you be talking abt them/thei load, or wat ~~||

[vague cedar]

Lemme guess - you just got devstruck by one

[wheat cobalt]

no

my teammate shima abandoned flank

and died on the other side

[trail salmon]

Ill get cheshire

Maybe

[hybrid whale]

I just intentionally write shit dirty

[vague cedar]

Oh that's even WORSE lol

[mental sundial]

Surv has a fever

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-question-mark-no-idea-gif-gif-25959482

[mental sundial]

he cannot think

[whole meteor]

six sayven

[wheat cobalt]

shima players trying not to be garbage

impossible

[hybrid whale]

Its funny ok

[steel pier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/confused-futurama-suspicious-ANbD1CCdA3iI8

tell that to the judge sunshine

[vague cedar]

Bruh
Take a sleep

~~Tbf i should've been dead asleep by now ~~

[steel pier]

yes, James May quote

[vague cedar]

[steel pier]

go to sleep then. if you need help, tune in some Shinano ASMR

[ivory gale]

might as well apply to wg team atp

[vague cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/broke-poor-money-wallet-empty-gif-7985382

You pay my relocation cost for me then i'll do it

[steel pier]

if only, there was still east germany. you'd come here to live for free and then earn money here to relocate to belgrade

[trail salmon]

david wishes surv speedy recovery

[trail salmon]

six sayven

[nocturne acorn]

when is arp coming back, devs?

[steel pier]

i wish david a happy 1000 year submarine service time

[trail salmon]

[steel pier]

already sentenced to 1000 years on soviet subs

cant escape

[radiant olive]

soviet subs are great, what are you talking about

[trail salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-enterprise-gif-13343900

[steel pier]

david hates subs

so, we must sentence to soviet subs

[radiant olive]

well then make him play the british ones

[tepid socket]

ball knowledge

[radiant olive]

those are actually bad

[steel pier]

he hates sub, regardless which ones

[vague cedar]

IIRC some Soviet subs has a pool and a sauna in it
So sentence him to one might not be a good idea

[tepid socket]

all subs are for bitches

end of story

[radiant olive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/oh-no-anyway-7k2LoEykY5i1hfeWQB

[vague cedar]

I'm still waiting for your appearance in ASIA server

[radiant olive]

i haven't even ground to the cachalot on EU

i forgot how painful the low tier grind is

blegh

[radiant olive]

so tell me then roach, why are subs so bad

and give me an actual reason

not just grrr sub bad grrr

[west scaffold]

because you can't hit them and they shotgun you for 20k+

[steel pier]

subs are for the ones, who can master them, end of story

[tepid socket]

they have heat seeking missiles and u cant even do shit

also every sub on my team sucks

[radiant olive]

and what ship are you in?

for those heat seeking missiles to be so effective

[void relic]

agir 😊

[radiant olive]

let him answer

[chilly minnow]

Is this second colombo balance change actually ruining the ship/over nerf?

[radiant olive]

i'm curious

[chilly minnow]

anyone know

[radiant olive]

no one knows aimcone

[trail salmon]

jinan

[tepid socket]

surcouf

[radiant olive]

and those that do can't tell anyway

[chilly minnow]

Isn't pts open rn?

I'm not home

[radiant olive]

dunno

[radiant olive]

wut

you're in surcouf?

or they are

[tepid socket]

yeah

i am

[radiant olive]

kek

ok, nice troll

[ivory gale]

grrr sub bad grrr

[radiant olive]

you had me there for a bit

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/arknights-endfield-arknights-endfield-ake-chen-gif-1852193165950969361

[mental sundial]

grr sub bad grr

[tepid socket]

grrr sub bad grrr

[trail salmon]

[steel pier]

david, imposter, secret sub lover

[trail salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/azur-lane-enterprise-gif-13343900

[tall geyser]

grr..

[tepid socket]

he was peer pressured to say that

[steel pier]

nah

[tepid socket]

https://tenor.com/view/mario-super-mario-bros-depression-sad-mario-and-luigi-gif-14815881022592239601

[trail salmon]

it was my april fools spiel

[steel pier]

mensa opinion: 0 value

[tall geyser]

haha LOL! 😂

[steel pier]

stop lying

[trail salmon]

me no lie :P

[steel pier]

yes

[trail salmon]

hah, yes i no lie

[radiant olive]

finally a decent game

[steel pier]

yes, yes you lie

[vague cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/abba-money-money-money-its-a-rich-mans-world-70s-music-sweden-gif-17890846

[radiant olive]

i'm more interested in the FXP tbh

[trail salmon]

how is this 4k base

inflation

[radiant olive]

spotting damage and solo cap

plus uptiered to tier 10

[trail salmon]

i think we need to nerf sub bxp

[radiant olive]

if we account for subflation that's still a 3k game

[radiant olive]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1504568815722434631/image.png?ex=6a077667&is=6a0624e7&hm=01bf2cfe19957a5f9478d87e2ccca77e661c1878f12427eba8584fd2d321983c&

I NEED MOAR

[trail salmon]

im prob malding on subs

nice job tho

[strange mulch]

what would "excellent ricochet angles" be to you?

[radiant olive]

elbing

[strange mulch]

in terms of degrees

[vague cedar]

Tachibana's AP

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[radiant olive]

and this surprises you...how?

[whole meteor]

everyday i see one of these my resolve gets weaker to play this game

[strange mulch]

"Strong AP shell with excellent ricochet angles" because im curious what "Excellent" is to WG

[radiant olive]

you know the solution to that problem

is to play a sub

[whole meteor]

i have some

words that would not

be safe to be said in the server

about subs and you

that arent slurs

[radiant olive]

hmmm, best keep it that way i guess

[strange mulch]

its lower angles that are better, right?

in terms of ricochet

[radiant olive]

that said, you know i'm not the usual sub driver ye?

i'm more than willing to compromise on things to get these things balanced

[whole meteor]

some

[strange mulch]

im curious because WG tends to use words that make you think things are either gonna be good or bad, like saying a ship has "lower gun range" and then the damn thing ends up having a 20km range, or has good/improved AA, yet the AA is shit

[whole meteor]

still biased tho

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/161053416796323840/1253156810941272145/uni-cat.gif

[radiant olive]

mayhaps, but then i also have a lot of experience in playing subs which gives me good knowledge on how to fight them and what would go overboard

[strange mulch]

so, i dont exactly trust their word for it when they claim the PanAm DDs will have "excellent ricochet angles"

[whole meteor]

petro angles

but SM does has mino angles

so

[strange mulch]

that still doesnt tell me anything because thats not numbers

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/orange-cat-gets-flung-and-explodes-orange-cat-funny-cat-meme-explodes-gif-10706110874965244466

[strange mulch]

the NUMBERS, Mason

what do they mean

[trail salmon]

Me no like sub

[whole meteor]

ill turn you into a number

202961123446620161

[strange mulch]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-ill-do-it-gauntlet-gif-13804455

[tall geyser]

https://tenor.com/view/aidely-likeyouneverdo-billie-eilish-billie-eilish-hte-billie-eilish-snl-gif-24106405

[ivory gale]

these bots are very realistic smh

[tall geyser]

what

theres russian server?

[plush oxide]

It wouldnt matter anyway

[tall geyser]

hello Russia! 🫡

[plush oxide]

Ur not fighting cruisers in this thing

[ivory gale]

legacy tag

ive long moved to eu server

[steel pier]

caught in DavidK

[strange mulch]

look into my metaphorical eyes, do i look like a man that cares

[steel pier]

the metaphorical eyes of this wolf girl character are inconclusive

[strange mulch]

nobody was fucking asking you

[steel pier]

[strange mulch]

go play with your void cats

[steel pier]

go white cats too

[stark turret]

The real way to play wows

[steel pier]

i dunno, i love going in, blasting secondary with Scharnhorst, since ik. she is built to main guns

and yet, her secs keep me DDs away xd

[whole meteor]

https://tenor.com/view/confused-what-question-mark-no-idea-gif-gif-25959482

[trail salmon]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-scuba-cat-cat-dance-cat-meme-gif-7310400222821099896

scuba

[stark turret]

Isn't Secondary actually workable !?

[steel pier]

wdym "workable"

[stark turret]

German BB = secondary

[steel pier]

they do their work, while i focus on zooming and shooting my main guns yes

[trail salmon]

noooooo

[ashen pond]

except mecklenburg

[ivory gale]

is there a way to keep these details always displayed

[stark turret]

https://tenor.com/view/worldofwarships-torpedo-submarines-gif-2498512061982916167

[steel pier]

yes

[trail salmon]

nooooo

[stark turret]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1160555373128843336/1412196610649096224/1756736463.webp

[steel pier]

our damn Mogami sank like in Surigao Strait, went straight into a bunch of crossin T ships and was blown to bits, while trying to turn round and escape

[tall geyser]

i hate subs so bad

my teammate ( a submarine ) didnt go spot the other submarine and only pushed into the cap or whatever after his teammates were dead

[tall geyser]

wtf how fast is that

[stark turret]

Don't know

[steel pier]

then go hate on subs in random, i keep enjoying to play subs in Ops

[radiant olive]

that's not an issue with it being a sub, that's just the player

[radiant olive]

37.8

that's a cherry picked gif pitting the fastest (by FAR) underwater sub vs a slow as can be DD

[stark turret]

What the propaganda !!

[radiant olive]

ikr

it's almost as if everything is cherry picked

[topaz coyote]

Daring tops out at 36.8 unfortunately 😔

[hybrid whale]

What tier is daring again

[topaz coyote]

Tier 10

[stark turret]

That's pretty daring indeed

[hybrid whale]

Kinda funny how a t10 is 4 knot slower than a t8

[topaz coyote]

Vampire however can top out at 42 knots

How broken

[hybrid whale]

Does vampire get speed boost

[topaz coyote]

Varies from ship to ship

Higher tier doesn't necessarily mean faster

[hybrid whale]

Yeah I know but still kinda funny

[steel pier]

so U-4501 vs Daring?

[topaz coyote]

Yes

[radiant olive]

for reference, the 4501 is literally the only sub that can pull that trick

[topaz coyote]

As well as the funny commander

[hybrid whale]

How fast with it on

[radiant olive]

any other sub just dies

[topaz coyote]

40-ish

[hybrid whale]

So about kidd level which is neat

[topaz coyote]

I mean kidd is faster because it has a much greater power to weight and is slimmer

[steel pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826284378111737887/1476441418871345212/catfish.gif

[topaz coyote]

Accelerates slower however

[tall geyser]

ooooh

i cant wait for pan amreican dds

[topaz coyote]

PanAm DDs

[tall geyser]

super heal!!!!

[wheat cobalt]

wha

no

[tall geyser]

F key!!! 🥳

[topaz coyote]

Standard heal

Lmao

[tall geyser]

goshhhh i love the F key

[wheat cobalt]

also no

[hybrid whale]

Yeah still neat

[wheat cobalt]

they have normal heal up to t7

[tall geyser]

boy u be quiet little boy stupid boy

[wheat cobalt]

t8-10 have halland heal

[tall geyser]

boy be quiet boy

SAP

[plain holly]

btw if u get knocked out in random battle are u still allowed to help ur teamates in spectator mode or no

[lament birch]

They are so uninteresting i died at the fact i bothered to open the blog

[topaz coyote]

Idk how much of help you could be

[hybrid whale]

I got mauled earlier

[topaz coyote]

But you can

[tall geyser]

@steel pier boy u be quiet too little boy shut up boy boy boy stupid boy scharn boy