that looks like a die hard
#game-discussion
topaz coyote
Clue
frigid steeple
What
trail salmon
topaz coyote
😭
trail salmon
can i legally make another innuendo
blazing palm
it's an achievment in the game
topaz coyote
Ramming without dying
blazing palm
Ramming somebody and surviving
eager pumice
that's just Valpa which can outheal ramming another BB if you time it well
frigid steeple
When I did it
frigid steeple
that's just Valpa which can outheal ramming another BB if you time it well
Has guns
Doesnt fit the image i have
Need 15 small Greek states warring and commissioning those old ships but metal and modern
frigid steeple
Is the ship?
topaz coyote
Look at the achievement
topaz coyote
trail salmon
topaz coyote
Ofc you can in this ww1 to cold war era game 
blazing palm
But can I sail the ship?
no, we don't have functioning triremes in the game
cold geyser
ok that went well i got the mission done
blazing palm
we mostly focus on 20th century naval warfare
cold geyser
co-operative team helped a lot
shadow rose
we do have some rubber duckies
topaz coyote
And space ships
shadow rose
you could row one of those around
trail salmon
wort wort wort
shadow rose
WORT WORT WORT
honest silo
Hey Bremerton.
shadow rose
bro wort is going to be so expensive
honest silo
I will gamble when 15.5 arrive.
frozen vortex
no, we don't have functioning triremes in the game
April Fools moment?
short mantle
no, we don't have functioning triremes in the game
Man-O-War coming soon?
blazing palm
April Fools moment?
it's a bit late for that
blazing palm
https://tenor.com/view/manowar-heavy-metal-motorbike-gif-13786825
I also thought about this first
blazing palm
Man-O-War coming soon?
haven't heard about it yet
trail salmon
Man-O-War coming soon?
why are YOU here
frozen vortex
it's a bit late for that
I live in the US... every day feels like a joke 💀
short mantle
why are YOU here
im busy procrastinating wargaming-related tasks
lets div up come on bubba
short mantle
ask professor about man-o-war
ancient monolith
And space ships
short mantle
we do need more metal collabs
https://suno.com/s/nzOnzQt3frD7rase i made this bc o7 to the actual servicemen lost at sea
embeds are massive for audio files in disc like dam
frigid steeple
no, we don't have functioning triremes in the game
Need to get working on that rn
trail salmon
https://suno.com/s/nzOnzQt3frD7rase i made this bc o7 to the actual servicemen l...
ok time for divv
im in
short mantle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hhHcNGZ5OBI&list=RDhhHcNGZ5OBI&start_radio=1
https://suno.com/s/5rluaJPD76GRT3YN also man o war, but different
cold geyser
embeds are massive for audio files in disc like dam
yeah u can actually upload like the entire bee movie audio
trail salmon
https://suno.com/s/5rluaJPD76GRT3YN also man o war, but different
DIVISION
cold geyser
with no issue
short mantle
funny you mention that, i have the bee movie in a gif that i used to troll a casino chatroom by shortening the url and placing it in a markdown table 100 screens tall
honest silo
@coral herald I'm at home.
blazing palm
Need to get working on that rn
Even if I agree with you, unfortunately I don't influence development decisions 
short mantle
and resume on-topic discussion from here
coral herald
<@1233403893094940716> I'm at home.
Sup. Are you playing already?
honest silo
Yep.
coral herald
Alright, I'll log in in 5 minutes
honest silo
Also from what video of G4ng I should start from?
frigid steeple
Even if I agree with you, unfortunately I don't influence development decisions ...
At least a ltm would be fun
coral herald
Also from what video of G4ng I should start from?
idk, all of his videos are pretty informative and there isn't an order you should follow
just whatever you're interested in
btw I am in lobby, hit me up when you finish the match
honest silo
I will.
warm raft
honest silo
Bruh, got sunk by a monaghan..
I should have rammed it.
@coral herald Almost finished the battle.
frigid steeple
Bruh, got sunk by a monaghan..
What dhip is that
honest silo
US Navy Destroyer, Farragut-Class.
frigid steeple
Oh i have the farragut
honest silo
In theory now I can get USS Yorktown CV-5.
stark turret
Why only in theory
honest silo
Because I should have got enought xp.
But not the credits.
@coral herald I'm in port.
blazing palm
<:catbug_hi:1226546823821393931>
Hello 🙂
blazing path
Suggested AP-only Canarias for PQ in Ship Request.
A ship with no HE that’s one of the worst premiums in the game. This has potential to be an all-timer suffering video.
narrow dove
Suggested AP-only Canarias for PQ in Ship Request.
A ship with no HE that’s one...
nah
no HEs arent the worst
radiant olive
anyone up for wows?
narrow dove
SAP and AP are the goodest shells wg has added soo far
narrow dove
<#1463552674598223967>
i cant access the link cuz im a slave to 
mental sundial
??
livid bridge
Suggested AP-only Canarias for PQ in Ship Request.
A ship with no HE that’s one...
what's a PQ
narrow dove
what's a PQ
look google
radiant olive
i cant access the link cuz im a slave to <:wargayming:794694940012707861>
Go to #more-channels then and select teamplay
livid bridge
look google
narrow dove
Go to <#1463520891152498708> then and select teamplay
arden
it just showed me this
gameplay shit
radiant olive
You're welcome
blazing path
PQ = Potato Quality on YouTube
blazing path
honest silo
Oh, yeah!
wheat cobalt
void relic
collect my flags
azure marten
Spanish duncan???
blazing path
where is the burst tho
opaque latch
Duncan threatening fletcher's throne
livid bridge
AP Secondaries?!?!?!?
azure canopy
Duncans are becoming a fletcher competition lol
azure marten
wasnt expecting the return of AP secondaries
frigid steeple
Y no heavy cruiser category in game
grizzled relic
AP Secondaries?!?!?!?
I swear roma had it
frigid steeple
bc all croozer have same icon
Y not break em up tho
U wouldn't put Frontline and strategic bombers into the same line
livid bridge
U wouldn't put Frontline and strategic bombers into the same line
why not
trail salmon
U wouldn't put Frontline and strategic bombers into the same line
wargaming
frigid steeple
Very different planes
livid bridge
ok and
frigid steeple
Different layouts, payload, designs, purposes, play style
west topaz
Eww panam DDs come on this was the perfect time to introduce the spanish line
livid bridge
(we already were told what will be next)
radiant olive
Panam dd's were announced during the roadmap
livid bridge
MBRB and CI hmmge
west topaz
Still eww-tier
Panam stuff is always eother just toxic as hell or essentially unplayable
radiant olive
Alvaro de bazan
livid bridge
idk San Martin line is peak release recently
radiant olive
Victoria
trail salmon
when new coal ship
frigid steeple
There are coal ships in game?
sleek igloo
yes
trail salmon
i need something easy to grind
frigid steeple
When did ships switch to fuel oil mixtures?
edgy marten
There a stream?
sleek igloo
When did ships switch to fuel oil mixtures?
son
edgy marten
and another fletcher <:POGGIES:782767443592347698>
💀
azure marten
another fletcher has joined the party
livid bridge
Fletcher is at T8
fringe crow
No Nueva Esparta?
We have the Nueva Esparta
I am very pleased by this
frigid steeple
Oh
livid bridge
the improved Halland uh
frigid steeple
I thought u ment coal powered ship
livid bridge
4s reload oof
edgy marten
de Agosto
sleek igloo
the fine
edgy marten
Or something similar
livid bridge
2x the Halland reload
edgy marten
Always room for buffs
molten summit
the improved Halland uh
Somewhere near Halland and DalarnA
edgy marten
😌
livid bridge
well they get CI and MBRB
edgy marten
good
livid bridge
+33% AP damage CI and a MBRB
edgy marten
By Mino AP, they also keep the fuze?
livid bridge
they just mentioned the pen angles
-40% timed MRBB
60s total allowed to use
hmmge
spring verge
Pam-am DD line? o-o
spring verge
trail salmon
Pam-am DD line? o-o
old news
radiant olive
I mean duncan herself is ehh. S thunder is ok. Willem is absolutley fantastic
edgy marten
That sounds reasonable
livid bridge
so the T10 has 189k AP DPM base
honest silo
I can get Yorktown.
livid bridge
251k AP DPM with CI up
hidden bay
Yes all the Pan-American DDs we announced are real historical ships.
radiant olive
Yes all the Pan-American DDs we announced are real historical ships.
As in they existed irl or they were concepts
honest silo
Hey Arden.
edgy marten
The blog will be up in...an hour
radiant olive
Real concepts that is
edgy marten
ish
livid bridge
315k AP DPM with just MBRB
hidden bay
As in they existed irl or they were concepts
All the DDs were built
fringe crow
As in they existed irl or they were concepts
Ships that were actually built and saw service
radiant olive
All the DDs were built
Sweet, very nice
honest silo
Is USS Enterprise CV-6 good?
livid bridge
419k AP DPM with CI + MBRB
honest silo
Hey AthenaRaindance.
livid bridge
on the T10 DD
scenic cliff
hey @hidden bay do you know will der be changes to Atago with the next update (like with Prinz Eugen)
livid bridge
among
edgy marten
So, we now have DD lines that are AP only and HE only
hidden bay
hey <@139879417445875712> do you know will der be changes to Atago with the next...
I do not, that will come via a Devblog
vital delta
Someone can check my math but with reload mod these are the DPMs
edgy marten
Now, we need a DD line that has SAP only
subtle fable
Now, we need a DD line that has SAP only
Italian dds basically cuz their he is pretty bad
livid bridge
Someone can check my math but with reload mod these are the DPMs
idc to look at with reload mod ngl
honest silo
Holy molly!
livid bridge
cuz easier to compare with stat pages without mods
honest silo
How the heck there are three Jagaer!?!?
deep swan
deep swan
after a ram attempt
most of those cits were through the stern
imagine playing for a ram in brawls
vital delta
Yes
grizzled relic
I think wgs fav hull is duncan
drifting marlin
fletcher 
vital delta
Is the spanish ship it tier IX or X?
livid bridge
yoo a Duncan returns
does that mean
Perilous Route returns
100% proof #confirmed #facts
grizzled relic
fletcher <a:modCheck:999741486839119893>
Atp there more duncan clones than fletchers
In wows
fringe crow
They love copy-pasting Rochester as well
loud flume
and i fucking WOULDVE if they didnt REMOVE THE MISSIONS A COUPLE DAYS BEFORE THE EVENT ENDED
i have personal beef with wg for that and that only
steel pier
loud flume
ill just save up coal for tulsa, its not exactly what i want cuz its not historical (bridgeport technically isnt but it WAS laid down, it also has the irl armament)
steel pier
but enough, how i swapped an us cruiser for yet another ijn ship
loud flume
but im not going to spend any doubloons on rochester
yet ill buy indy and wichita
im an interesting specimen
i bought wichita on my eu account like 5 minutes before the in game clock reset and the armoury rotation happened
thats probably why i did it
steel pier
also, why given us Bridgeport? could have given us Albany instead
fringe crow
ill just save up coal for tulsa, its not exactly what i want cuz its not histori...
Tulsa makes sense as a representative of the studies made into fitting the RF Mk16 on the Oregon City hull jank AA fit nonwithstanding
green patrol
They're pretty easy to grind in Asymms.... you've got decent secondaries on the ones with normal gun layouts, and the "All Forward" ones are easy to keep alive in, use your speed to get to a place where the enemy are basically off your forrard quarter and smaller stuff that gets outside you will suffer. In Randoms I hear they're not that good, the specialist big gun ships outgun you and the Germans and Pan-Ams out-brawl you. Your armour can troll both you and the red team though, take three cits from a CL at distance, then tank a Soviet BB at 8km, it's a dice roll as to whether you explode like a T5 cruiser or tank like a Kremlin ....
barren vortex
Ngl I kinda like the Essex line carriers, granted. I’ve only played the Independence but I like the tactical squads.
I might get the Kaga
When trade ins start
Shame theirs not many carriers that have tactical squads like the Essex line.
honest silo
Hey Warsoldier.
barren vortex
Hola
honest silo
loud flume
Tulsa makes sense as a representative of the studies made into fitting the RF Mk...
i mean yeah but i dont really care about that
fringe crow
What we're missing is an Oregon City with the as-completed AA battery
loud flume
i play this game for the historical ships (shocker based on my chat history)
azure marten
thats entirely fair
loud flume
the only paper ships i actually find interesting are the ones that wouldve been made
honest silo
What we're missing is an Oregon City with the as-completed AA battery
True,
loud flume
im ofc playing the wrong game but no other game comes with the mostly intuitive gameplay and the visuals
i went on a short rant about this but war thunders ships are all over the place, and consistently have terrible textures
honest silo
A part of the Oregon City-Class we are missing USS Oregon City CA-122, USS Albany CA-123, USS Kansas City CA-128, USS Norfolk CA-137 and USS Scranton CA-138.
rose lodge
loud flume
for the past 5 years every new ship from wows has at the very least looked good
the historical ones arent 100% perfect but theyre great models
cold geyser
i went on a short rant about this but war thunders ships are all over the place,...
yeah it looks like shit
like that entire part of the game
loud flume
the only two that stick out in that regard that i actively know about are maya and blucher
friends of mine discovered bluchers hull form is inaccurate, though im not entirely sure what they used to base it on
i havent been obsessed with the hippers ina while
cold geyser
please remember that war Thunder is not something that we're supposed to be discussing here
fringe crow
DM's model still drives me up the wall
loud flume
but ik the hulls of all the deutschlands were different
honest silo
Hey WarshipTerminator.
loud flume
and i would NOT be surprised if its the same with the hippers
frozen vortex
Question for the chat:
I don't use Epic Games anymore...
https://store.epicgames.com/p/world-of-warships-world-of-warships-—-dante-alighieri-pack-b13bae
How do I get this to sync so I can still play steam version of WOWS?
cloud pivot
Twitch mission excludes operations? Dockyard excludes Assymetrics? What to do?
loud flume
but with blucher the anchor recess is too big and allat and it looks weird, it also has a noticable seam that only hipper had in the class
cold geyser
friend
loud flume
and maya has some weird shit going on with the mid height section of her bridge
with that specifically you need to know exactly what youre looking for cuz
cold geyser
just want to make sure you're aware that discussing other navy games that compete with wows is against the rules
loud flume
convoluted ship small mistake hidden by support beam
ancient monolith
the AL Rossiya looks nice, kind of want it
it would be nice if there was a way to listen to the voice overs
vital delta
Isnt it just worse soyuz?
loud flume
just want to make sure you're aware that discussing other navy games that compet...
ive brought it up a couple times but i havent gone on full discussions, just like i didnt do here
it was quick in passing
if the mods have a problem with it and they let me know ill cease that
but i dont think its your job to be telling me this
cold geyser
🐴 you're sending a lot of messages
loud flume
a lot of messages which are all about wows ships
cold geyser
ok men
ancient monolith
Isnt it just worse soyuz?
is it not just the same?
vital delta
is it not just the same?
Gets slightly more sigma but has standard bb dispersion instead
ancient monolith
Gets slightly more sigma but has standard bb dispersion instead
ah, no russian dispersion, ok
vital delta
Its also the A hull so less HP too
I hope spanish thunder is research, looks like a lot of fun
ancient monolith
I just want affondatore for now, got the coin
might grind for bismarck 41
will see what the event is like
drifting marlin
so what do we think about the panam DDs
mental sundial
stinky
honest silo
They are interessing.
vital delta
so what do we think about the panam DDs
Hard to say
wheat cobalt
so what do we think about the panam DDs
inb4 they get outgunned by DDs going flat broadside to them
vital delta
The dpm can get really high but if it suffers from the same issues as gun build halland theb idk
mental sundial
they’re gonna giga suck against other DDs
wheat cobalt
buuut
with F key + mbrb + FB + reload mod
dmg might be nasty
into smth like a cruiser
wheat cobalt
looks like it
vital delta
419k ap dpm into a GK superstructure 😍 😍 😍
honest silo
Bridgeport is in my list to get.
drifting marlin
419k ap dpm into a GK superstructure 😍 😍 😍
into utrecht's side 
wheat cobalt
or that
drifting marlin
shot a basically broadside utrecht for like 3 salvos in a BB today and got overpen city
he got deleted by a bazan burst
DDs save me from angry overpen man
vital delta
Although definitely seems to be a feast or famine style gun boat
wheat cobalt
seems like a big game hunter
mental sundial
im not excited at all for the new ships
vital delta
Give AP secondaries to the libertad >:)
vital delta
Spanish thunder looks so fun tho 😍
river dune
whats this
from the new devblog
steel pier
i can see that, but which bote or line
wheat quarry
Hey folks, need your advice. I’d like to buy a “premium” ship with the coat i managed to gather and I’ve put my eyes on Malta and Kearsage. Which one you guys think it worth and better ?
spring verge
im not excited at all for the new ships
Would you like me to predict a CV again?
drifting marlin
i will slightly leak that there is an internal note somewhere that says "secondary light cruiser LOL"
steel pier
~~Would you like me to predict a CV again?~~
oh hello, mr doom. how is day 
vital delta
Hey folks, need your advice. I’d like to buy a “premium” ship with the coat i ma...
Are you a CV player?
magic arrow
steel pier
so this ship?
wheat quarry
Are you a CV player?
Not yet but I want to start
vital delta
Then get kearsarge
spring verge
Hey folks, need your advice. I’d like to buy a “premium” ship with the coat i ma...
You... sure you wanna get malta?
steel pier
looks like a damn Pan Am Ceberus, or whatever
wheat quarry
I’m familiar with dd’s and bb’s
spring verge
Age of Shinanos right now:
trail salmon
I SAID THIS WAS THE YEAR AP SECONDARIES COME BACK
INSANE FROM AUNTIE
wheat quarry
You... sure you wanna get malta? <:conwhy:839963463731904562>
I heard it’s one of “kings of CV’s”
river dune
I heard it’s one of “kings of CV’s”
it's not, malta is very vulnerable
spring verge
Oh boy..
river dune
if you want a good coal CV, get Immelmann tbh
trail salmon
the new dds seem somewhat interesting
spring verge
Shinano eats Maltas for lunch
wheat quarry
Kearsage worth the coat ?
drifting marlin
there is the odd occasion you absolutely devastate a poor CL with the malta bombs but pretty much everything does
steel pier
Kearsage worth the coat ?
wheat quarry
What about the cruisers ?
harsh prairie
steel pier
Shinano eats Maltas for lunch <:heh:1475851191085694986>
but no more then one Malta per lunch meal. not that the Nano gains overweight
wheat quarry
From the coat section
steel pier
Moskva too
tardy tree
meh is twitch having a moment i cant get any of the drops?
anyone else?
river dune
there is the odd occasion you absolutely devastate a poor CL with the malta bomb...
and the occasional time you get some citadels off on Hindenburg, but the problem is the hull is too vulnerable
steel pier
meh is twitch having a moment i cant get any of the drops?
anyone else?
hello
fringe rover
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/669133945375555584/1376574929335746590/ke...
I mean thats only if you try to play it like a CV/Average Hildebrand style
steel pier
I mean thats only if you try to play it like a CV/Average Hildebrand style
i dont play Hildebrand like a CV either
i play it like it should be played
fringe rover
Its arguably a more fun BB than most BBs because positioning is super important for it
drifting marlin
komissar the most fun hybrid because you actually instantly implode if someone looks at you funny
edgy marten
Wait
fringe rover
You have to be close enough for your guns and planes to be effective, but not too close that everything HE just farms your massive forehead
vital delta
Tier X Omaha when?
edgy marten
So...just be helpless when it's an enemy DD?
drifting marlin
yes
edgy marten
Or just pray they angle enough
drifting marlin
or that
ancient monolith
colombo got nerfed again? dispersion getting worse with distance?
fringe rover
> normal fuze
Theyre dd versions of the Cruiser line, just with consumables and CI based on doing damage rather than being unkillable
drifting marlin
colombo got nerfed again? dispersion getting worse with distance?
and removal of range mod yes
coral herald
@honest silo I'm out of the game currently, ping me later if you wanna play. I'll go eat as well
honest silo
<@332847634714853378> I'm out of the game currently, ping me later if you wanna ...
Roger I will.
fringe rover
Not sure why it would matter
vital delta
Ngl it could possibly do well into destroyers with overpens just bc of the sheer DPM
Well see tho
drifting marlin
that's because range mod with the soviet dispersion curve is actually a stronger legmod
fringe rover
I mean sure
honest silo
Hey Rikuachima,
ancient monolith
and removal of range mod yes
like you can't increase their range at all? is there a precedent to this? Do other lines get that?
drifting marlin
yes, soviet BBs can't and khaba can't
fringe rover
Just the soviets
honest silo
One question guys.
vital delta
And hawaii :)
ancient monolith
yes, soviet BBs can't and khaba can't
I equipped long range mod on sibir lol, wdym
fringe rover
Soyuz and Kremlin have never been able to mount it
fringe rover
I equipped long range mod on sibir lol, wdym
Becauze sibir has normal dispersion
drifting marlin
range mod shifts their inflection point further out which makes them pretty accurate at all ranges
honest silo
Is USS Indianapolis CA-35 good? I mean also for Randoms and of what Tier she is?
fringe rover
Same reason Rossiya can mount it
drifting marlin
sibir doesn't have the weird soviet-bb inflection point, so range mod is not a substantial dispersion buff for her
ancient monolith
Becauze sibir has normal dispersion
so sibir is an exception? kremlin can't equip it?
river dune
i'm a personal fan of secondary mod sibir, i like to watch dd's melt 
fringe rover
so sibir is an exception? kremlin can't equip it?
Yes, because Sibir has standard dispersion
drifting marlin
the italian BBs are gaining that inflection point (and it is being shifted to a closer range) so removing range mod is necessary to keep that consistent
ancient monolith
Yes, because Sibir has standard dispersion
oh cool
honest silo
i'm a personal fan of secondary mod sibir, i like to watch dd's melt <a:clappywa...
Hey AFKaveman and nice.
ancient monolith
I thought sibir had russian dispersion
coral herald
so sibir is an exception? kremlin can't equip it?
yeah, rangemod on kremlin would be a direct buff to dispersion, same as it works on petro or napoli
fringe rover
Both Soviet BBs that were moved to standard dispersion (Sibir and AL Rossiya) can take range mod
edgy marten
Theyre dd versions of the Cruiser line, just with consumables and CI based on do...
Yes, but being a gunboat that's helpless against other DDs is a bit...odd
drifting marlin
same thing for a few ships like napoli and petro, who have an inflection point and you benefit more than most ships from rangemod
fringe rover
Yes, but being a gunboat that's helpless against other DDs is a bit...odd
Eh, i wouldnt say so, just anither archetype to explore
coral herald
same thing for a few ships like napoli and petro, who have an inflection point a...
does slava benefit from it though? Shouldn't in theory...
or teng she for that matter
drifting marlin
no, because she does not use soviet bb dispersion curve
ancient monolith
so colombo is a real brawler now, asia must be sad no?
coral herald
no, because she does not use soviet bb dispersion curve
yeah but she uses the opposite of that, kinda
drifting marlin
this is specifically for the ships that have the inflection point in their dispersion curve
fringe rover
We're running out of niches for lines to occupy, so anything is fair game and tbh im fine with that
coral herald
this is specifically for the ships that have the inflection point in their dispe...
doesn't slava have one?
honest silo
Running out of what? Just curious.
coral herald
I believe at certain threshold the marginal increase of slava's dispersion per kilometer drops off
fringe rover
I believe at certain threshold the marginal increase of slava's dispersion per k...
Thats kinda IJN dispersion tbh
ancient monolith
so inflection point and russian dispersion are two different thing?
drifting marlin
soviet BB dispersion curve has an inflection point, but it is not the only curve that has one
edgy marten
Eh, i wouldnt say so, just anither archetype to explore
This niche wouldn't change all that much with short fuze
drifting marlin
petro line has one, napoli has one, and soon the italian BBs will too
edgy marten
If anything, it'd favor dealing damage better
fringe rover
This niche wouldn't change all that much with short fuze
Theyd basically just be another line of Brit DDs then
drifting marlin
there are a few others probably that i don't remember off the top of my head
inflection point is just a term for a point where the dispersion area doesn't smoothly increase with range
ancient monolith
so in that case I might get Kremlin then, cause it must be a different experience compared to Sibir
coral herald
inflection point is just a term for a point where the dispersion area doesn't sm...
so slava doesn't get it?
that point where dispersion starts behaving differently
drifting marlin
no
edgy marten
Theyd basically just be another line of Brit DDs then
nah
Burst smoke, single fire torps, and HE
Different niche entirely
coral herald
no
interesting, cause I always thought that slava had a point where she starts losing accuracy less than other BBs as range increases
sorta flipped kremlin dispersion
fringe rover
Maybe let the line enter testing and release first? Lol
If i had a dollar everytime there was a general preconcieved notion about an upcoming line that ended up being awfully wrong id be a lot richer than i am already
ancient monolith
I need to look into this inflection point thing, cause I don't understand how it works, and it seems counter intuitive with the narrative russian dispersion gets worse as range increases
drifting marlin
interesting, cause I always thought that slava had a point where she starts losi...
horizontal dispersion is always given by the dispersion curve: other than the little kink at 5km that ALL ships have, the dispersion formula gives you the LINEAR increase in horizontal dispersion with range
barren vortex
I touched a dead pig today 🤑
torn spindle
ok, so... why does apparantly WG love Duncan so much, that we need to get a third premium version of it^^
ancient monolith
I touched a dead pig today 🤑
you ate ham you mean?
barren vortex
you ate ham you mean?
Uh no?
drifting marlin
however, where Kremlin (and the others I mentioned before) differ is that they have a point at mid-range where their vertical dispersion suddenly starts climbing much faster than other ships
(and as you can see here, Slava's horizontal AND vertical dispersion are nice and linear and beuatiful the whole way through)
little abyss
Oh they’re continuing to double down on changing the whole line to balance Colombo but now the dispersion formula will actually be a nerf instead of a straight buff
Yippie
ancient monolith
however, where Kremlin (and the others I mentioned before) differ is that they h...
then why range mod is a buff? cause it pushes the curve further?
coral herald
however, where Kremlin (and the others I mentioned before) differ is that they h...
I see now
drifting marlin
range mod pushes that inflection point out further yes
coral herald
so slava does not benefit from rangemod
drifting marlin
which means between like 12km and 16km rangemod is actually a huge dispersion buff for those ships with inflection points
vital delta
You can hit things further away
coral herald
though I doubt it would even if it had that point
ancient monolith
so slava does not benefit from rangemod
well you can still shoot at things far away
honest silo
then why range mod is a buff? cause it pushes the curve further?
Hey nyanko how it went for you today?
drifting marlin
slava benefits from rangemod as much as any other ship, just not like Kremlin theoretically would
honest silo
@coral herald Almost finished waiting for French Fries.
barren vortex
you ate ham you mean?
I touched a dead baby pig in my schools Anatomy class I get to cut one open tomorrow 🤑🤑🤑
ancient monolith
Hey nyanko how it went for you today?
still stuck at 48% with sibir, gonna take a while to climb, you?
livid shadow
barren vortex
ancient monolith
I touched a dead baby pig in my schools Anatomy class I get to cut one open tomo...
sounds fun, at least you get to touch stuff, better than using an ipad to learn stupid things
honest silo
Had some good Battle, slowly improving with Aircraft Carriers and with also other ships and unlocked USS Yorktown CV-5 also almost at Benson and Need to farm Credit.
barren vortex
sounds fun, at least you get to touch stuff, better than using an ipad to learn ...
Fr
honest silo
Had some good Battle, slowly improving with Aircraft Carriers and with also othe...
But yeah for the rest well nyanko.
Sorry autocorrector.
ancient monolith
so colombo is gonna be my brawler then, for real lol
ancient monolith
I guess colombo is dead for asia
coral herald
Colombo will make GK obsolete imo
barren vortex
This one is better bro
coral herald
ancient monolith
https://tenor.com/view/world-of-warships-turret-looking-at-each-other-reaction-g...
see, they talk to each other, I knew it
barren vortex
see, they talk to each other, I knew it
I thought they were tryna kiss
coral herald
see, they talk to each other, I knew it
they stare in shock
ancient monolith
they look at each other to see which one is brave enough to shoot first
coral herald
barren vortex
honest silo
so colombo is gonna be my brawler then, for real lol
Nice.
coral herald
https://tenor.com/view/empire-vader-vader-with-gun-darth-vader-dark-side-gif-684...
nice boobs
barren vortex
nice boobs
https://tenor.com/view/invincible-fraud-mortal-immortal-invincible-immortal-gif-15908249451250281441
honest silo
But yeah you can still do division Independence?
trail salmon
nice boobs
CHAT
coral herald
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/822767609367887873/977543925562748949/c...
how I feel after sending
trail salmon
gyatt
honest silo
yeah in a few minutes
I'm back.
trail salmon
<:florkSmack:981591782125084733>
edgy marten
also
trail salmon
ships have guns
gun=goon
meaning ships constantly goon to shoot at each other
based
coral herald
so next time your goon barrel elevates, it's your ship getting hard
coral herald
AP secs being brought back for one ship
wait what?
steel pier
ships have guns
gun=goon
meaning ships constantly goon to shoot at each other
stop smoking weird shi-
honest silo
I'm in port Independence.
coral herald
I'm in port Independence.
I'm eating, will join you in about 15 minutes
honest silo
Alright.
drifting marlin
wait what?
almirante irizar is the strangest ship we have released (well, stuck in a devblog - release TBD i guess)
AP secondaries on a light cruiser
who let us cook
edgy marten
wait what?
drifting marlin
they do have pretty sick range
coral herald
will they be manually controllable or what?
honest silo
Also guys.
steel pier
they do have pretty sick range
pls not another one above 10Km
edgy marten
Argentine ship with...German turrets?
honest silo
Is Indianapolis worth and good for Randoms?
edgy marten
I think
edgy marten
pls not another one above 10Km
it's a CL
drifting marlin
no, i don't think she has manually controlled secondaries
torn spindle
am i reading correct, that Triumfante alternative firemode has 65 seconds reload?
torn spindle
Alternative Fire Mode
Reload time - 35 s.
Main battery firing range: -23.8%
Main battery HE shell damage +10%
Main battery AP shell damage +25%
new gimmick
edgy marten
who knows, what sick shi- they cook again
well, you can read it on the blog
steel pier
cuz i am sick of thoose past 10km secs
drifting marlin
am i reading correct, that Triumfante alternative firemode has 65 seconds reload...
35s
its just 30s -> 35s
not 30s + 35s
honest silo
Is Indianapolis worth and good for Randoms?
Or I should stick to get Vanguard?
coral herald
no, i don't think she has manually controlled secondaries
dang, would be pretty cool ngl
torn spindle
ok. read a bit confusing by the way it was written
coral herald
Or I should stick to get Vanguard?
annapolis is good for ranked
vamguard will do better in randoms I think
drifting marlin
playing a light cruiser which has like 5s reload (after mods) and trying to use manual secondaries at the same time would be a little manic
coral herald
playing a light cruiser which has like 5s reload (after mods) and trying to use ...
lmao, right. Forgot it was a light cruiser
drifting marlin
but her base sec range is 8.3km, which is the same as adalbert/hindenburg base
adalbert's range goes up to 9km base when manually controlled
honest silo
I see, so that's a no for Randoms regarding Indianapolis?
torn spindle
should maybe bei worded like "New reload time: 35 seconds" or so
coral herald
I see, so that's a no for Randoms regarding Indianapolis?
you can do it, but vanguard for you will simply feel better
steel pier
well, you can read it on the blog <:conwhy:839963463731904562>
8,3. dont wanne know, what unique commander and other means to increase this then again. Regele Carol is alr borderline imo
deep swan
playing a light cruiser which has like 5s reload (after mods) and trying to use ...
the ultimate zoomer brainrot ship
fringe crow
Argentine ship with...German turrets?
No they're British guns and turrets
Based off the ones on La Argentina
honest silo
you can do it, but vanguard for you will simply feel better
I see.
drifting marlin
it's still a light cruiser :d getting into secondary range without instantly imploding is not going to be easy
coral herald
the ultimate zoomer brainrot ship
zoomer attention span would allow for such multitasking
edgy marten
8,3. dont wanne know, what unique commander and other means to increase this the...
but this is 120mm and AP
literally...angle
torn spindle
light cruiser with secondaries sounds... a bit sus. no idea if i would enjoy that
honest silo
I will currently do an Asymmetrics with Illinois.
coral herald
or dgaf if you're in a BB cause that's miles better than getting set on fire by secondaries
coral herald
light cruiser with secondaries sounds... a bit sus. no idea if i would enjoy tha...
I think it's gonna be like le havre where secondaries are just an interesting gimmick, but majority of damage will still come from main guns
drifting marlin
enemy cruiser flies a little too close to the sun and suddenly 500k combined dpm into their side
last kernel
ded game
quaint bolt
hi gang should i go for legmod or a ship first w rb pts
drifting marlin
what t10s do you play a lot
last kernel
and yet you're back
i was wondering in which folder i put this server and was only curious about here 
fringe crow
it's still a light cruiser :d getting into secondary range without instantly imp...
84 mm belt from the design spec
last kernel
are t11s still insufferable and subs still op af
or is it worth coming back to this game
edgy marten
it all depends
edgy marten
it means whatever you wish it to mean
drifting marlin
subs are across the board the weakest ships in the game by a mile (but are still annoying) and T11s still barely exist with most of them being only slight upgrades to the t10s
edgy marten
if you wish it to mean no, then certainly
drifting marlin
if you need an excuse to stop playing those are not it, but you are free to play or not play regardless 🙂
last kernel
ye ill go back to dayz
drifting marlin
cya
drifting marlin
i bought azuma right when she came out and then yoshino was like right after
so i dont think i played much of her 
wheat cobalt
btw
I was doing some funny shiptool research
I learned that Pommern has better secondary angles than FdG
whole meteor
the new line powercreeps druid?
drifting marlin
druid still has the ability to rip apart DDs
whole meteor
idk then what is its niche
drifting marlin
high burst dpm against larger ships
whole meteor
ok but hull exists
honest silo
The first coal ship I had bought was Großer Kurfürst.
azure marten
im guessing theyre gonna get a massive rework during testing
because as of now its not very appealing of a line on paper
edgy marten
damage focused and no short fuze is an...interesting choice
steel pier
at least Cuauthémoc is interesting
edgy marten
also no word on ballistics, so it's safe to assume they are standard
they're all actually interesting, real ships
drifting marlin
they have like... double hull's DPM in short bursts right now iirc
edgy marten
unlike...some other PAm ships
honest silo
they have like... double hull's DPM in short bursts right now iirc
For HMS Druid?
drifting marlin
no, the new pan-am DDS (based on stats in devblog)
azure marten
I want the T8 because my family roots are from Mexico
drifting marlin
also, noticed that irizar has 25mm pen on 152mms instead of 30mm so i'm doublechecking that internally right now, might be an error but idk yet and eu is probably all off work already
honest silo
Oh, ok I see.
drifting marlin
so i'll get back to you guys on that
whole meteor
also, noticed that irizar has 25mm pen on 152mms instead of 30mm so i'm doublech...
ah yes everything new must have 30mm HE pen because yes
drifting marlin
or more accurately probably someone on EU will clarify because i will be asleep
whole meteor
steel pier
well choosen name, ggs mexico
drifting marlin
well no, 152mms are just supposed to have 30mm at t8+
its not some arbitrary buff thing lmao
azure marten
I was about to say that
honest silo
I now have USS Yorktown CV-5!
edgy marten
If I had a nickel for every Fletcher at T8
I'd have two nickels
which is weird that it's happened twice
drifting marlin
fletcher at every tier
ancient monolith
I'm super bad at very close range, like 2km against other BBs
azure marten
soon we can have every destroyer in a match be a completely different fletcher
steel pier
I want the T8 because my family roots are from Mexico
Cuauhtémoc, the last Aztec ruler 
azure marten
im not fully sure if my family heritage is native to Mexico or a result of Spain arriving, never done an ancestry test or any of the sorts
I want it either way though
honest silo
soon we can have every destroyer in a match be a completely different fletcher
You mean the 177 missing Fletcher-Class?
trail salmon
I now have USS Yorktown CV-5!
This is a good one
honest silo
This is a good one
Thanks David, I miss only USS Enterprise CV-6.
steel pier
im not fully sure if my family heritage is native to Mexico or a result of Spain...
man, i loved the Aztec campaign of Age of Empires. i even once played an alt history, where the spanish were completely defeated
trail salmon
Thanks David, I miss only USS Enterprise CV-6.
Yorktown has unlimited plans
tepid socket
Gravity Falls
correct
river dune
kindred cradle
is there a new update today?
drifting marlin
no
kindred cradle
when is bismark hunt
drifting marlin
next week, when 15.4 releases
kindred cradle
ah thank you
grizzled relic
I cant wait to play duncan clone number 974628842
edgy marten
funny thing is
One of Triunfante's selling points is the speed
slightly slower than an Iowa
lavish elbow
had to carry this one
nice one
grizzled relic
wg loves duncan hulls like they love fletchers
ancient monolith
now that I know sibir has normal dispersion I do more cits at 20km lol
honest silo
had to carry this one
Nice Battle Arden!
drifting marlin
ok who got the bin pasta
barren vortex
Dam I gotta find out how to make these
drifting marlin
i know someone has it
molten summit
next week, when 15.4 releases
Tomorrow will be an pre upload of an initial update ?
molten summit
More Fletchers
drifting marlin
Tomorrow will be an pre upload of an initial update ?
i dont think we've announced something to that effect have we?
grizzled relic
Does the ap seconderys have improved pen angles
drifting marlin
normally the servers just go down prior to the update
fringe crow
ok who got the bin pasta
radiant olive
honest silo
Nice!
molten summit
i dont think we've announced something to that effect have we?
I haven’t seen anything, but Friday is usually when this happens. On last week of the patch before starting new one
hybrid whale
how long did it take
radiant olive
not that long, i earn FXP like candy
steel pier
geez, i never thought i carry an op round in nelson, untill now
hybrid whale
not that long, i earn FXP like candy
ohh yeah sub enjoyer
grizzled relic
And subs have like 2x bxp
honest silo
Hey Dinoslayer.
radiant olive
like this one https://discordapp.com/channels/669128285527080961/1463427839729733674/1504566034818928812 was 13.5k FXP
honest silo
Hey hornet.
blazing dock
wg loves duncan hulls like they love fletchers
clearly you havent seen recently with the vladivostok hull
radiant olive
so take 10 games on average to earn 100k FXP
give or take
yeah, it starts to go pretty quick
radiant olive
i AM starting to run a bit low on blues though
mental sundial
radiant olive
but then i still have 256 reds i can use in a pinch
steel pier
holy cow
Devonshire, De Grasse, Gorizia and Nagato all litterally just melted away, while Scarlet, Gneisenau and me carried
drifting marlin
it was also in the roadmap a month and a half ago ^^
plush oxide
not that kind of prediction
I predicted pan american destroyers would be first to come
steel pier
the VIII is cool
plush oxide
hm
drifting marlin
the key thing to note is low base damage per minute
their burst damage is quite high
honest silo
New dev blog?
steel pier
national mexican hero
plush oxide
New dev blog?
drifting marlin
and all real ships too!
steel pier
they even named a sailing training vessel after him
drifting marlin
(which is why their torpedo armament is so... varied)
steel pier
but the dd is new
plush oxide
So from what I can see a Jutland class at tier 9
ANOTHER fletcher
at tier 8
this is the second fletcher class at tier 8?
after kidd
drifting marlin
technically battle-class
steel pier
Loyang? i forgor, which class Loyang was
plush oxide
ohh yeah you're right
Loyang
so 3rd
what looks to be a modified mahan class at tier 7
a spanish at tier 6
and the rest idc about
steel pier
also, what was Velos again? wasnt this also one?
radiant olive
Velos is a fletcher
plush oxide
Velos is also a fletcher
steel pier
so 4th
honest silo
Oh, ok I see.
deep swan
Loyang? i forgor, which class Loyang was
Loyang isn't a Fletcher
Benson class
plush oxide
Tier 8 fletchers
oh right Loyang is a benson
So 2 tier 8 fletchers Kidd and this new one
deep swan
understandable mistake they're nearly the same ship ingame
fringe crow
AP only
fringe crow
Yeah
Here's hoping they get some tweaks in testing
severe plank
Wait
severe plank
Oh god AP only DDs that dont have short fuse
steel pier
Loyang isn't a Fletcher
Benson class
serious, who sees the diff. they look the same to me
plush oxide
Yeah
Here's hoping they get some tweaks in testing
what's the point of being AP focused if you can't damage your primary targets that are gonna be destroyers
this might work for san martin
but NOT for destroyers
they need short fuse
wheat cobalt
just gunboat big cars
steel pier
they would need the AP dmg of Elbing, this would only work
fringe crow
In this current iteration they just seem like open water farmers
wheat cobalt
seem kinda funny
steel pier
Tier 8 fletchers
i count all fletchers in general
fringe crow
And not particularly strong ones
steel pier
so we have fletcher, kidd, velos, cuauhtémoc
severe plank
These DDs just seem kinda lame right now ngl
fringe crow
Fletcher, Kidd, Chung Mu, Velos, Halford, Johnston, Cuautemoc
steel pier
i will get the VIII, for collection and then i leave it at this
well, the 7th Fletcher then
median niche
Black.
plush oxide
I will not
understand these destroyers
they don't even get good health pools
18.8k base HP
for Julio
radiant olive
speaking of destroyers, one sec, i've got a good one for you
fringe crow
I was excited for this line but the stats and gimmick are just boggling
severe plank
No short fuse ap
honest silo
I was excited for this line but the stats and gimmick are just boggling
For Fletcher?
plush oxide
7.7km detect so down to 6.2 detect
combat instructions that do very little
ap shell damage 33%
fringe crow
For Fletcher?
That particular one least of all
plush oxide
10 seconds
and a main battery reload booster
then average heal and average engine boost
that AP damage enhancer better make up for my overpenning enemy destroyers
severe plank
imagine if the ci just gave them short fuse ap so they can deal with DDs but only for 10 seconds lol
plush oxide
okay so
did anyone
check if they have just standard ap arming threshold
or can we not check that
steel pier
well, lets see, how ARM Cuauhtémoc will play
azure marten
can't check it yet
plush oxide
because
if it's standard AP fuse
you can pen destroyers that angle
since you have improved richochet angles
which i'm assuming is how you could wipe DDs off the map
honest silo
That particular one least of all
Oh, ok I see.
plush oxide
since you get a staggering +33% damage modifier for 10 seconds with F key and then main battery reload booster -40% for 60 seconds
that could add up to something
but activation conditions are meh
strange mulch
Hell, id even settle for them buffing the torp range to 8km, just anything but 6km
radiant olive
Check out the positioning on this alvaro....
plush oxide
Hell, id even settle for them buffing the torp range to 8km, just anything but 6...
this is what made the least sense for me
we made them AP focused only, you cannot set fires but you get no smoke no disengage and not even usable torps..?
fringe crow
They're already balanced by the low torpedo salvo weight
clever bloom
Check out the positioning on this alvaro....
Conqueror casually chilling
honest silo
Hey Darwish.
plush oxide
unless you're rushing someone and good luck doing that at 32 knot base
fringe crow
I'd prefer they drop the MBRB and just give them a good reload
plush oxide
engine boost might get you up to 36 knots
but that's still terrible
32 knot halland they could not have made this look as bad as it is
fringe crow
That was the design speed of the Colombian Hallands but I'm surprised WG didn't at least bump it to 34 knots
I wouldn't have blamed them if they did that
radiant olive
me watching half of my team die to a single neptune in 5 minutes
check the alvaro
-_-
plush oxide
That was the design speed of the Colombian Hallands but I'm surprised WG didn't ...
also
they talk about how
their AP is gonna do well against broadside targets
what are you dodging at 32 knots when open watering
you dont even get a superheal
plush oxide
why should I open water a cruiser when I go 32 knots 😭
wheat cobalt
you've never experienced that
strange mulch
Hell, at 32 knots virtually everything is outrunning the T10
wheat cobalt
I know
plush oxide
Hell, at 32 knots virtually everything is outrunning the T10
is this not the slowest tier 10 DD yet?
i dont remember how fast hull or sherman are
wheat cobalt
Sherman
radiant olive
not hull
cosmic swan
why are they adding ap secondaries to a british hull
plush oxide
just from this devblog these destroyers sound terrible
you have no incentive to go open watering
and not even any incentive to fight destroyers
radiant olive
halfdan, think of it this way, they've just been announced, they'll go through live testing and maybe get buffed
plush oxide
6.2 knot detection with 32 knot base speed
radiant olive
we don't know
cosmic swan
this light cruiser will have itself deleted by any random large calibers
plush oxide
liek wtf
fringe crow
Yeah 32 knots makes it the slowest T10 DD by 1.5 knots
Second slowest is Tromp at 33.5 knots
radiant olive
honestly it makes no sense in complaining about them at this point in time because things may likely change
plush oxide
Second slowest is Tromp at 33.5 knots
tromp at least has a ton of HP
strange mulch
Oh yeah, that secondary cruiser has to be a troll, using a CL hull as a secondary platform without the super heal is just trolling
severe plank
Is that another Duncan
void relic
people on their way to complain about the initial stats of something in testing
cosmic swan
they will change but for now this whole tech tree seems meaningless
void relic
in testing
steel pier
honestly it makes no sense in complaining about them at this point in time becau...
i hope Cuauhtémoc gets improved again, this seems abit weak.
plush oxide
people on their way to complain about the initial stats of something in testing
dude this whole tree is literally meaningless
void relic
then go 'BRUH WHY DID THEY GET BUFFED'
plush oxide
we can see that
void relic
when they get buffed
steel pier
but i wait, hope for the best
radiant olive
well then why are you complaining now?
void relic
just to complain