only stomps
#game-discussion
celest stag
hallow cosmos
BB players hate this trick
light harbor
It's more of an issue for cruisers probably
whole meteor
bbs are irrelevant
light harbor
There's a reason why I've only recently restarted playing cruisers that aren't called Rhode Island
whole meteor
they are the βΏ class in terms of balancing
whole meteor
yea
scenic osprey
Bbs the single reason of this game alive
whole meteor
water is wet
trail salmon
Cue the bb gif
scenic osprey
is ice wet?
whole meteor
Cue the bb gif
light harbor
If it's melting
hallow cosmos
Nah its cold
scenic osprey
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347766553516572719/1496896374317383871/t...
True tho
strange mulch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347766553516572719/1496896374317383871/t...
just tank it
scenic osprey
Just dodge
short wolf
What are Pommern's weak spots in her armor scheme?
whole meteor
vermont is such a balanced ship
strange mulch
The Brickβ’
void relic
What are Pommern's weak spots in her armor scheme?
the superstructure
scenic osprey
What are Pommern's weak spots in her armor scheme?
Any???
whole meteor
just shoot its tumor
scenic osprey
i had a blind dev strike on a napoli today
We are proud of you
magic arrow
There are none. Pomern is best ship of all time. Do not attempt to shoot it (please let me win please)
scenic osprey
π₯³
short wolf
There are none. Pomern is best ship of all time. Do not attempt to shoot it (ple...
I've a Pommern...
scenic osprey
There are none. Pomern is best ship of all time. Do not attempt to shoot it (ple...
Why won't u buff it then
magic arrow
Why won't u buff it then
It's the best ship in the game, it needs no buff
raw skiff
There are none. Pomern is best ship of all time. Do not attempt to shoot it (ple...
When Yari?
scenic osprey
π
strange mulch
Yari doesnt exist
magic arrow
When Yari?
raw skiff
short wolf
strange mulch
stop getting played by Big Torp Cruiser
scenic osprey
+8 months?
honest silo
I see.
steel pier
+8 months?
+20 years. since gizmo sent it 
raw skiff
Pommern is cool
scenic osprey
Poopern
strange mulch
you dont see Yari on the roof, BECAUSE ITS NOT THERE
fringe crow
stop getting played by Big Torp Cruiser
The artform peaked with Jinan and it's all been downhill since
void relic
big torp lies to you
short wolf
I had a game against a Valpa
trail salmon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1496512847277199630/1496830811360722964/Y...
AGREEEED
short wolf
She kited me towards the edge of the map lol
wheat cobalt
ship game is calling
honest silo
Tbh guys.
Regarding Valparaiso.
Illinois is quite good for fight her at distaance.
steel pier
https://tenor.com/view/rudol-von-stroheim-stroheim-jojos-bizarre-adventure-jojo-...
Tovarish
wheat cobalt
@gray flame minegumo clasp
gray flame
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1496512847277199630/1496830811360722964/Y...
any info on when the dev blog drops? its been like 3-4 days i think since it was added into devblog feedback
gray flame
<@640804344937185290> minegumo clasp
im clasping heli sanity
magic arrow
any info on when the dev blog drops? its been like 3-4 days i think since it was...
NA stream on wednesday
wheat cobalt
it was that simple
gray flame
oh so its the usual devblog drops before patch
wheat cobalt
just ask john wargaming
gray flame
gotcha
drifting marlin
most of the time we will reveal devblogs on the weekly streams
neon oracle
NA stream on wednesday
Whats a stream?
haughty carbon
When you will add some info about summer festival?
magic arrow
Whats a stream?
Its a flowing body of water, smaller than a river but bigger than a creek
indigo mountain
are the devblogs revealed to you in dreams?
drifting marlin
are the devblogs revealed to you in dreams?
where do you think we get them
spring flare
where do you think we get them
Neptune
shadow rose
neon oracle
where do you think we get them
magic arrow
The baz fairy visits in dreams and reveals devblogs to us
trail salmon
https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-pikachu-head-bang-head-banging-head-b-gif-1013461...
legendary gif
spring flare
I donβt see how he would allow vessels to travel the seas virtually without his approval
spring flare
maybe we should probe uranus
analog jackal
Normalize buffing siegfried and Sevastapoop
wheat cobalt
BΕyska 44
spring flare
Normalize buffing siegfried and Sevastapoop
Your telling me a sieg was fried here?
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464758518837022865/1487220900662087800/GIF-260327_224257.gif
analog jackal
yes it was
trail salmon
maybe we should probe uranus
indigo mountain
analog jackal
whole meteor
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1464758518837022865/1487220900662087800/G...
holy dead ahead mention
honest silo
Hey Sharkheadbob.
raw skiff
NA stream on wednesday
Will Yari be in that devblog?
spring flare
holy dead ahead mention
This wows account
Exists to larp
As Cetus from dead ahead
honest silo
Hey Gizmo.
ashen pond
thought ranked was down
whole meteor
can you have the server tag then?
deft grail
Running her with the same build I run on Kii only without the AA
deft grail
Secs aren't exactly reliable, but good enough when in a pinch
honest silo
Running her with the same build I run on Kii only without the AA
What ship?
deft grail
Ashitaki
honest silo
Oh, nice.
steel pier
Ashitaka, good VII
deft grail
^^
steel pier
and Amagi class
trail salmon
https://tenor.com/view/tap-phone-tap-phone-umamusume-gold-ship-gif-1619329266645...
im lost with the anniversary stuff π
radiant olive
trail salmon
how can i maximize muh gain
radiant olive
HUEHUEHEU
trail salmon
how do you play with the clear water mod
deft grail
Armor is all but worthless though. Ate a cit at about 45 degrees from a Pyoter
radiant olive
how do you play with the clear water mod
how do you not
deft grail
probs 12km out
steel pier
<@555753342526029845> <@224891792531652608> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...
why does it look like you are litterally driving through the oceanfloor
honest silo
<@555753342526029845> <@224891792531652608> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...
One curiosity regarding USS Balao Arden.
trail salmon
how do you not
uhh i just do
light harbor
how can i maximize muh gain
Get as many tier 5 ships as you can
They're the most cost-efficient in terms of certificates or snowflakes or whatever the hell it's called this time
honest silo
USS Balao is post WW2 refit right? As it's different from Archerfish?
trail salmon
They're the most cost-efficient in terms of certificates or snowflakes or whatev...
i meant for wuwa π
light harbor
...why are you asking about that here
honest silo
guppy refit
What refit is that? I'm curious.
radiant olive
it's a refit created by applying knowledge the allies learned from captured german U-boats
magic arrow
Will Yari be in that devblog?
It could potentially be...perhaps
honest silo
Oh, ok I see and thanks Arden.
raw skiff
It could potentially be...perhaps
radiant olive
@steel pier how would you rate that curveball?
deft grail
<@555753342526029845> <@224891792531652608> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachmen...
"Captian, We've run aground."
No we haven't.
"Well, what's that then?"
I've had worse.
honest silo
I should resume watching the Yuro guide for Submarine.
trail salmon
...why are you asking about that *here*
meh, im bored
deft grail
https://tenor.com/view/monty-python-king-arthur-black-knight-ive-had-worse-bad-situation-gif-6118886
honest silo
And thanks Arden also.
steel pier
<@555753342526029845> how would you rate that curveball?
i asked, if it only looks like you were actually in the oceanfloor with your lower portion of the sub
honest silo
radiant olive
i asked, if it only looks like you were actually in the oceanfloor with your low...
it only looks like that
it's because of the clear underwater mod
deft grail
it's because of the clear underwater mod
Uboat experience near England be like
steel pier
<@555753342526029845> how would you rate that curveball?
you mean, shooting around the island
radiant olive
yes
steel pier
horrible movie
this reminds me, of when this dude should shoot around the piece of meat to hit the trainings target
but is interesting trick shot nonetheless
drifting marlin
guys agano is broken trust
radiant olive
no Zui, you are
light harbor
We're all a little broken
radiant olive
Nah, Zui's a genuinely really good player
deep swan
ah, agano
worst T5 cruiser I've ever played
drifting marlin
only a 1 
untold talon
We need battleships with homing shells and a radar ping mechanic
honest silo
Agano is Light Cruiser?
light harbor
Nah, Zui's a genuinely really good player
I know
deep swan
was there a buff at some point?
drifting marlin
ppl just do not expect that range on torps at the tier
radiant olive
Zui, rate my curveball π
fringe crow
Agano is Light Cruiser?
Yes it's a light cruiser
radiant olive
untold talon
Triple 6.1s on that one no?
drifting marlin
1337 ππππππ
light harbor
ppl just do not expect that range on torps at the tier
Also centre-line launchers on a cruiser is surprising sometimes
radiant olive
deft grail
Agano, Yahagi, Noshiro, Sakawa
Yahagi in play, no one expected the Japanese torp inquisition
steel pier
Yahagi in play, no one expected the Japanese torp inquisition
i am personally biased towards Yahagi and this comes not only from Kancolle
deft grail
ah, agano
worst T5 cruiser I've ever played
Worst for me it Kotovsky
And it's just because it's not Kirov
deft grail
i am personally biased towards Yahagi and this comes not only from Kancolle
Aiming systems, mod 0
steel pier
Aiming systems, mod 0
but, i am still convinced. japan should have aimed for their own set of unique calibers, far from conventions
deft grail
but, i am still convinced. japan should have aimed for their own set of unique c...
Wait, my b
chrome canyon
i don't understand this game lol. How can this be 4 splash damage... he's literally afk in his sub, can't aim better and still...
deft grail
Was thinking of Katori
drifting marlin
they kind of did with the 155, 410 and 460mm
sour notch
can we fix the POV camera on this ship?
deft grail
the T3
deep swan
Worst for me it Kotovsky
I'm not even playing Kotovsky
the thing gets cit by German 150mm HE
absolute garbage design for a T5
deft grail
can we fix the POV camera on this ship?
Kirov and German Sec Cruisers have same problem for me
sour notch
Kirov and German Sec Cruisers have same problem for me
random ass ships have the bug
it been reported yet?
drifting marlin
spanish line does as well
steel pier
Wait, my b
personally: Light Cruisers with a caliber of either 16 or 17cm. Heavy Cruisers of minimum 22cm caliber. this is what i would favour
drifting marlin
and yes
deep swan
WG should go through and fix the lower tier CLs so they don't eat HE cits from common cruiser calibers
light harbor
I'm not even playing Kotovsky
the thing gets cit by German 150mm HE
absolute gar...
There are secondary guns that can cit you at tier 5
drifting marlin
the strange camera position bug is known, no concrete version for a fix yet
light harbor
It's very funny
drifting marlin
WG should go through and fix the lower tier CLs so they don't eat HE cits from c...
the spanish cruiser getting HE cit by my agano at 12km:
fringe crow
personally: Light Cruisers with a caliber of either 16 or 17cm. Heavy Cruisers o...
The difficulty is heavy cruiser only emerged as a term to refer to any ships 156-203 mm under the treaty
deep swan
the spanish cruiser getting HE cit by my agano at 12km:
exactly
funny, but terrible for new players
honest silo
Agano, Yahagi, Noshiro, Sakawa
I see and thanks.
deft grail
exactly
funny, but terrible for new players
Least with Kirov, she rewarded you for good play
light harbor
Kirov was too powerful
deft grail
Kotovsky feels like she gets the same reload as kirov for far less pay off
steel pier
The difficulty is heavy cruiser only emerged as a term to refer to any ships 156...
im going away from the treaty in general. and once japan was no longer part of it. CAs with 22cm main guns and CLs with 16cm or 17cm guns 
deft grail
Kirov was too powerful
Maybe, but she was a glass cannon
fringe crow
Japan considered 25 cm guns both on new builds and on retrofits of the treaty cruisers
deft grail
You get hit, you pay for it heavily
deep swan
the British C and D class cruisers are the most notable for this issue
half their deck is cit, with minimal protection
light harbor
Maybe, but she was a glass cannon
I was being sarcastic
light harbor
Fair enough
drifting marlin
kirov's guns are actually insane tho
fringe crow
220 mm is a bit more of a Soviet thing
steel pier
Japan considered 25 cm guns both on new builds and on retrofits of the treaty cr...
well, this is abit much. too much, if you ask me. but im strifing for round numbers in cm
wheat cobalt
kirov's guns are actually insane tho
Mikoyan sweeps
light harbor
Furutaka is significantly more powerful than Kirov at tier 5
And it still isn't enough
deft grail
kirov's guns are actually insane tho
So good, they were moved up a tier and put on the hull of Buddy
Still worth having
deep swan
light harbor
Mikoyan sweeps
Doesn't that thing literally just have Tallinn's guns at tier 5?
Shame the hull is so weak
deep swan
this also means most CV bombers oneshot it
deft grail
Doesn't that thing literally just have Tallinn's guns at tier 5?
Only 3 turrets though
And tbh, Tallin is very mid for a t8
maybe even underpowered
light harbor
wheat cobalt
has to be ragebait
drifting marlin
So good, they were moved up a tier and put on the hull of Buddy
i believe they're basically the same all the way up to donskoi
whole meteor
maybe even underpowered
what
drifting marlin
tallinn is def one of the best t8 cruisers haha
whole meteor
light harbor
I'm sure this can't possibly go wrong
sour notch
anyone else have audio bugs using the space camo on any ships?
light harbor
Looks at Donskoi which is arguably worse despite being a tier 9
sour notch
causes weird issues in abttles after
drifting marlin
she gets the way-better-than-caliber AP performance of her line but she still has HE shells worth using
deep swan
and this next patch gets a heal
drifting marlin
unlike riga and petro which whose HE shells are very sad
deft grail
tallinn is def one of the best t8 cruisers haha
Well, keep in mind, my experience with most ships is in Assyms, not randos
light harbor
she gets the way-better-than-caliber AP performance of her line but she still ha...
The hull is also very troll
deft grail
And in Assyms, she gets smashed for free
whole meteor
Well, keep in mind, my experience with most ships is in Assyms, not randos
ok but the game is balanced around randoms
light harbor
Petro is famous for being trolly as hell but Riga gets smashed pretty easily if you catch the side
whole meteor
And I don't play randos
womp womp
light harbor
But Tallinn is pretty hard to cit
deft grail
Petro is famous for being trolly as hell but Riga gets smashed pretty easily if ...
This is true
deep swan
this is why we need separate channels for pvp and pve
the game is completely different
light harbor
Also in PvE Tallinn is still a good pick
deep swan
cuts down on a lot of ragebaiting too
sour notch
Anyone have issues with audio bugs after using a ship with a space camo,
?
Also the pan American captain doesnt speak Spanish
deep swan
π
light harbor
You just can't play her bow-in in asyms because you get burnt down too easily
deft grail
You just can't play her bow-in in asyms because you get burnt down too easily
And I don't.
fringe crow
Also the pan American captain doesnt speak Spanish
He's Brazilian
deft grail
Angled
steel pier
And in Assyms, she gets smashed for free
i mean. can happen in Ops too. thats why i play Tallinn way more cautious and pickpoint cruisers, especially broadside ones.
sour notch
He's Brazilian
Well in any case
light harbor
You should be kited out
deft grail
Ahuh
untold talon
Also the pan American captain doesnt speak Spanish
Brazil isnβt a Spanish speaking nation
light harbor
Then it's just a skill issue I'm afraid
deft grail
bots basically get Yami disp curve
deft grail
Then it's just a skill issue I'm afraid
Oh sure
sour notch
Brazil isnβt a Spanish speaking nation
He used to speak Portuguese or Spanish now its just english
fringe crow
Now its English
Check your voiceover language settings
untold talon
Yes to Athena you listen
deft grail
Then you do it
sour notch
Check your voiceover language settings
Its extended and still wont use the proper language
fringe crow
Might be something to do with mods
light harbor
deft grail
I wonder why it was uninstalled
honest silo
Isn't Tallinn an Admiral Hipper-Class?
deft grail
Issue in skill i presume?
sour notch
Might be something to do with mods
The space camos also fuck my game audio up now after 1 game
drifting marlin
Isn't Tallinn an Admiral Hipper-Class?
the hull is, the guns are modified
light harbor
Yes
I didn't realize I could change accounts in-game
That was indeed a skill issue on my part
deft grail
the hull is, the guns are modified
Actually an Eugene hull armer wise
deft grail
She gets the 40mm turtle
whole meteor
deft grail
Hipper only gets 30mm
steel pier
again
light harbor
<@&669133917705601054>
drifting marlin
<@&669133917705601054> WEAPONS OUT
deep swan
<@&669133917705601054>
steel pier
witch trial
light harbor
I poke first
steel pier
come on
whole meteor
ping bomb
weary oxide
deft grail
4 more!!
whole meteor
drifting marlin
if i didnt spend the 2 seconds to type i wouldve been first
light harbor
deep swan
one is enough
simultaneous lol
vernal flower
Mobile is slow 
whole meteor
try being faster
steel pier
if i didnt spend the 2 seconds to type i wouldve been first
challenge. who pings mods first, when scammer/m;lf links come out. 
srry
drifting marlin
winner gets 500 credits
steel pier
soo many?
spring verge
DOOM
steel pier
thanks mod
whole meteor
@drifting marlin 
steel pier
wows is safe again
spring verge
Anyways I slep
spring verge
honest silo
the hull is, the guns are modified
I see and thanks.
proven heron
Mobile is slow <:Bedge:889031505551163422>
man I'm so used to seeing you as a normal moderator for years
please change back tony
I'm not ready for this change
old widget
Is investing my experience stars in Japan first good?
glass crystal
Why did Pommern became so shit you can't win a 1v1 brawl with it anymore?
honest silo
Is investing my experience stars in Japan first good?
USA is more a starter nation.
old widget
USA is more a starter nation.
Alright thanks, is there a quick way to farm experience stars because I have so much money but not experience stars?
lucid wagon
Why did Pommern became so shit you can't win a 1v1 brawl with it anymore?
maybe because you play it wrong
glass crystal
maybe because you play it wrong
maybe its shit and needs a buff
lucid wagon
if youre failing to win a brawl in one of the better brawling ships then I do not think it is the ship
glass crystal
you think youre smart but obviously dont even play
try beating mante or val paraiso
its a shitty brawler
one of the shittiest actually
lucid wagon
???
glass crystal
rudder shift too big, inacurate guns
radiant olive
glass crystal
shity ship
river dune
manteuffel
lucid wagon
I play it myself.
lucid wagon
manteuffel
ok if youre losing to a manteuffel in pommern I think its just time to quit
light harbor
That brings you up to... 18?
radiant olive
16
lucid wagon
to be losing consistently in pommern like apparently this dude has
light harbor
Huh
radiant olive
there may have been a few reports
light harbor
That does make sense
river dune
to be losing consistently in pommern like apparently this dude has
really isn't unreasonable, pommern is not that great
lucid wagon
I think it is unreasonable but opinion differ i guess.
river dune
michelangelo, mant, valpepe, rupprecht
grizzled relic
20 torp hits and only 100k is insane how low is the damage in those
river dune
there's so many better secondary ships at t9
lucid wagon
I also didn't like manteuffel at all in grind. So take that as y ou will.
light harbor
Los Andes
glass crystal
its funny that you talk but didnt plaky it π
radiant olive
20 torp hits and only 100k is insane how low is the damage in those
guided only
lucid wagon
its funny that you talk but didnt plaky it π
i have played it?
grizzled relic
guided only
Yeah but still
radiant olive
8967 a pop
lucid wagon
I own both Pommern and Manteuffel.
glass crystal
if you played 1v1 brawl with pommern against mante you would know. youre too bad at the game to understand
pommern is a shitty brawler and needs a buff
grizzled relic
8967 a pop
Dam
lucid wagon
???
honest silo
How is Manteuffel?
glass crystal
can only beat ships with no torps in it's own tier
grizzled relic
pommern is a shitty brawler and needs a buff
????????
lucid wagon
Atp just play Los Andes and Michelangelo if you want easy win that bad.
or Valparaiso.
glass crystal
ship is slow af and can't turn
grizzled relic
People when their bb dont go 40 knots and have a 800meter turning radius
glass crystal
"youre too bad at the game to understand"
if you win against mante in a pommern then mante was worse than a bot
lucid wagon
uh huh.
radiant olive
For reference @river dune
glass crystal
People when their bb dont go 40 knots and have a 800meter turning radius
all im asking is for a ship that is a brawler and sells as it to at least be 50/50 against any other brawler
and not this shitty
lucid wagon
real one play Iwami because it is totally true brawler
glass crystal
los andes is the only ship that's shittier 1v1 against a pommern
lucid wagon
???
glass crystal
do you guys know what youre talking about π
river dune
huh? los andes is very strong
honest silo
I honestly didn't understand what happened guys.
light harbor
Man complains that the best tech tree tier 9 battleship is not strong enough
honest silo
Hey Dinoslayer.
grizzled relic
all im asking is for a ship that is a brawler and sells as it to at least be 50/...
You are expecting a older ship from a time were wg maybe still had some focus on balancing to hold up against newer ships with no balance in mind
lucid wagon
Man complains that the best tech tree tier 9 battleship is not strong enough
Common behavior of certain class player.
grizzled relic
It got old thats it
lucid wagon
I do not get how Los Andes is not strong enough for brawls apparently
what do you want??
grizzled relic
Pommern belongs in the retirement hime
lucid wagon
What do you think of Rupprecht then.
grizzled relic
Hey Dinoslayer.
Hi
light harbor
what do you want??
Valparaiso clearly
honest silo
Just for know Dinoslayer and SymboliRudolf, what just happened?
lucid wagon
Valparaiso clearly
"IF Valparaiso is first, what next?"
lucid wagon
Just for know Dinoslayer and SymboliRudolf, what just happened?
He said pommern is shit which i do not agree or disagree with but i think people should be able to fairly win a brawl in it.
then manteuffel and Valparaiso get brought up (one being the much more op one) and Manteuffel imo being on par, maybe bit better
then he say Los Andes worse then Pommern
light harbor
"IF Valparaiso is first, what next?"
Valparaiso 2
grizzled relic
He said pommern is shit which i do not agree or disagree with but i think people...
Its just abit to old ngl
light harbor
river dune
problem with pomm is it doesnt have accurate secondaries nor does it have large caliber secondaries
so every other secondary ship in tier just kinda laughs at it
light harbor
Also the main guns are... yeah
lucid wagon
wows will make new libertad w/ faster reload on the big secondary guns, 20x more accurate, give it same gimmick as Valparaiso and call it "Simon Bolivar" like Russia wows.
tier 9
light harbor
Pommern is basically just a block of HP with torpedoes these days
grizzled relic
Valparaiso 2
Valparaiso but its a libertad with 80mm deck 400mm side and 60mm bow that goes 60 knots with mino acle and 9km concealment and it gets 10 heals with 5k healing keeps both f keys aswell
honest silo
then he say Los Andes worse then Pommern
Oh, ok I see.
lucid wagon
Valparaiso but its a libertad with 80mm deck 400mm side and 60mm bow that goes 6...
true.
grizzled relic
Did i cook or did i cook
glass crystal
you just confirmed what I'm saying. and I'm not saying I expect that it's good, i just said it needs a buff. that's clearly not wrong expectation. Ask some AI to translate if you don't understand english.
And yes, it's a shitty ship against the "new OP ones", that's exactly what I'm saying. And I will beat los andes in 1v1 brawl any game you want.
I don't think you understand what 1v1 brawl even is, you're just trying to hold a discussion with no argument
river dune
Pommern is basically just a block of HP with torpedoes these days
they aren't even impressive torps by 2026 standards 
grizzled relic
Now never cook again
You shouldve seen my exparamental cv and sub idea
glass crystal
and of course other people agree with me because I'm right on point about pommern
light harbor
I think I prefer holding onto my sanity
gaunt saddle
grizzled relic
But they got burnt in the fire that was set by the turkish milf
severe plank
Who plays poommern anyway
severe plank
Other than people looking for a t9 premium to make credits
slow marlin
me. i play all shitty ships. my fav ship is Tiger 59
severe plank
In which case they are severely wrong
grizzled relic
Battleship mains
severe plank
Based
river dune
Other than people looking for a t9 premium to make credits
even then if i want to do that i just play georgia
gaunt saddle
Pommern is fine for PvE
light harbor
slow marlin
who plays pvp nowadays ? full of former WOT crybabies
gaunt saddle
And also this version of brawls apparently
light harbor
Pommern is fine for PvE
Yes, because she's the easiest accessible option for PvE that can do well and earn credits
Not because she's necessarily good
fringe crow
She's not good, she's just the all round best immediately accessible option for PvE
obsidian oriole
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/273168903944011777/854971675233484810/s...
gaunt saddle
Better options are usually not obtainable, so Pommern it is
light harbor
Indeed
fringe crow
Better options you have to get lucky for or get from events
radiant olive
You shouldve seen my exparamental cv and sub idea
oh?
fringe crow
Tulsa can do good too in PvE but it's a cruiser and not a heavily armored one
obsidian oriole
Pommern will do alright. It's a remarkably tanky hull
Just.... not the superstructure
light harbor
Tanky in the old sense
river dune
ehhh, im not sure i'd call pommern tanky compared to most ships these days
slow marlin
the thing with german ships is simply that they catch fast fire
obsidian oriole
It's the superstructure that's the problem with her. It's big and fat
slow marlin
and so big hulls like the pommern ones are an easy target for fire spaming
obsidian oriole
Eats a lot of damage
radiant olive
Not a real idea btw it was a joke at how stupid those ships were
i still think you should really read my supersub concept, i mean really read it and think about how the parameters work together
obsidian oriole
The hull has some very thick armor that's resistant to AP if played right, and will shatter HE in spots
light harbor
Me watching AP chunk 25k into the superstructure of a GK:
radiant olive
you'll find it's actually quite balanced
radiant olive
Super sub and balanced
no really, hop on comms, i'll explain it to you if you want
river dune
Me watching AP chunk 25k into the superstructure of a GK:
the humble mecklenburg 30k-ing a GK with half his shells 
severe plank
Me somehow citadeling the german BBs in Hermes with marseille
like how did I do that
obsidian oriole
But again, the hull itself has some very good armor. Just the superstructure that's the problem
honest silo
I honestly never had Pommern guys.
grizzled relic
no really, hop on comms, i'll explain it to you if you want
Cant i have to go sleep maybe another time il find it and read it later
obsidian oriole
like how did I do that
You hit close to the turrets where the turtleback doesn't stretch to
radiant olive
aight
honest silo
But from what I saw she isn't that good.
obsidian oriole
The turtleback doesn't extend the entire length of German ships
grizzled relic
But am sure its fine but wg could never do super sub and balanced
obsidian oriole
They cap off at the turrets
river dune
But from what I saw she isn't that good.
pommern's good if you're a pve player, but if you play pvp it is less good
radiant olive
But am sure its fine but wg could never do super sub and balanced
that's why they should let me do it π
honest silo
pommern's good if you're a pve player, but if you play pvp it is less good
On that I agree at 100%.
rigid crypt
isn't Pommern like really good in ranked? Well, before the Valp came into life that is.
rigid crypt
and that los andes thing i guess
obsidian oriole
There were better options before Valpariaso, just Pommern is a cheap decent option
river dune
isn't Pommern like *really good* in ranked? Well, before the Valp came into life...
it gets melted by Schroder, rupprecht, michelangelo
glass crystal
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1347766553516572719/1496896374317383871/t...
I'm not even a bb main LOL
honest silo
Also, is this good for Illinois guys?
fringe crow
Pommern is good if you're starting out as a PvE player and your only options are the other coal T9s
grizzled relic
I'm not even a bb main LOL
Funny how you asume i was remotely talking about you, you arent that important
light harbor
Pommern is good if you're starting out as a PvE player and your only options are...
One of the tier 10s will probably perform better than her in any case
Kurfurst aside
radiant olive
Also, is this good for Illinois guys?
i don't play ops so i honestly wouldn't be able to say
obsidian oriole
We really do need another coal T10 battleship
fringe crow
One of the tier 10s will probably perform better than her in any case
Napoli, Salem, and Moskva in particular
honest silo
i don't play ops so i honestly wouldn't be able to say
I mean more in General as I'm doing a bit of pratice.
obsidian oriole
Or more coal T10s in general
honest silo
Also for learn the ship Arden.
radiant olive
more coal botes in general
rigid crypt
idk, haven't really played T9 ranked since they introduced the pan-american ships lol
radiant olive
not just T10
obsidian oriole
My pickings are rather slim. I'm using my coal to complete collections because I have nothing to get
lucid wagon
My pickings are rather slim. I'm using my coal to complete collections because I...
save for another salvage i guess
obsidian oriole
Though I did finish like 3 good commander collections just recently
light harbor
My pickings are rather slim. I'm using my coal to complete collections because I...
Did you end up buying Carrot while I wasn't looking?
obsidian oriole
I bought that a long time ago
slow marlin
My pickings are rather slim. I'm using my coal to complete collections because I...
safe your coal for the case that wg decides to give out another trashy ship for over 1,5m coal
lucid wagon
surcouf wasnt that bad
obsidian oriole
I can't afford that anyways. Surcouf wasn't the prize for me
lucid wagon
and the ships they gave out are also good
obsidian oriole
I wanted the Schlieffen copy
lucid wagon
M. Colonna and Zarya Svobody were good
fringe crow
RI is probably off the table for coal seeing as WG found out they could milk her for upwards of $100 a pop at Black Friday
honest silo
Is Bridgeport good?
obsidian oriole
Hmmm, yeah. I've moved Sibir into that likely category now
lucid wagon
Is Bridgeport good?
yes.
obsidian oriole
Rhode Island is constantly being carrot dangled
slow marlin
surcouf wasnt that bad
for that amount of coal it did cost, it were extremely bad. in the same breath you can get the tier X I58 and have more fun
severe plank
I only play Bridgeport for the heal
obsidian oriole
Not like that's gonna be unique soon
severe plank
But sheβs still pretty good even if Baltimore is getting a heal
river dune
Is Bridgeport good?
it's no Cambridge, you should get Cambridge
lucid wagon
it's no Cambridge, you should get Cambridge
bro π
fringe crow
You know they haven't re-released Cambridge yet
obsidian oriole
In a week, every cruiser nearly will have heals. Heh
obsidian oriole
Bridgeport has quite a bit of punching weight
severe plank
I know I canβt wait to play my amalfi with heals soon
shadow robin
π
trail salmon
M. Colonna and Zarya Svobody were good
narai
lucid wagon
Cambridge is like the best T9 cruiser imo.
trail salmon
are we sure
obsidian oriole
Depending on how you play
lucid wagon
are we sure
yes
trail salmon
chat how does height affect how people's opinions are treated
rigid crypt
i have never heard of cambridge and bridgeport wtf. im not keeping up with this shi. π³
obsidian oriole
I'd easily place my Alaska, Michelangelo, and Schroeder above it
light harbor
Not sure I'd say Schroder is better than Cambridge
Alaska probably just has more carry power yes
fringe crow
i have never heard of cambridge and bridgeport wtf. im not keeping up with this ...
One's a rearmament of the Rochester hull with three twin Alaska 305s at T9, the other is just a copy-paste of the Rochester model with time pool MBRB and a heal at T8
obsidian oriole
I think the worst T9 premium cruiser I have is just.... BA Takahashi
rigid crypt
i have the rochester. it's allright
obsidian oriole
Lucked out on the first wave for the worst ship in that wave
gaunt saddle
chat how does height affect how people's opinions are treated
If you are under 6ft, then your opinion is irrelevant π
obsidian oriole
chat how does height affect how people's opinions are treated
Below 5 ft is gremlin level
trail salmon
but not there
honest silo
it's no Cambridge, you should get Cambridge
Why no Bridgeport?
trail salmon
Below 5 ft is gremlin level
AGREEEEEEEEDDD
steel pier
chat how does height affect how people's opinions are treated
not height, but your lvl of being david affect your opinion being accepted
trail salmon
FAHHHHHHH
glass crystal
Funny how you asume i was remotely talking about you, you arent that important
you're literally having a conversation with me. funny guy, you will say anything to get out of it, just never admit you are wrong
you're like a leftist lOL
grizzled relic
glass crystal
who you're sending it to now?
slow marlin
man when will we finally get rocket cruisers
severe plank
What happened I just looked away to get that funny meme
grizzled relic
who you're sending it to now?
Ih this time it was to you
obsidian oriole
Anyways...
steel pier
man when will we finally get rocket cruisers
prob never
grizzled relic
And directed to you
obsidian oriole
Next update is gonna be a wild one
glass crystal
Ih this time it was to you
so what does it have to do with me since im not a bb main?
hahah
grizzled relic
Sisi boy
obsidian oriole
Lot of ships getting heals
trail salmon
when heals
slow marlin
prob never
i seen simmilar comments before subs got added also
trail salmon
me need heals
grizzled relic
so what does it have to do with me since im not a bb main?
severe plank
Iβm more hyped about the coupon reset tbh
steel pier
i seen simmilar comments before subs got added also
well. we will see. but missiles are a more radical cut in seafaring warfare
obsidian oriole
I would have some more hype around the coupon reset if I had anything really to get with it
severe plank
As soon as I get my hands on defence, Iβll play her for 5 games then take a break and come back on anniversary
steel pier
when heals
when you bow before the Empress and say no more prpr
slow marlin
well. we will see. but missiles are a more radical cut in seafaring warfare
i could see missles in ops tbh
obsidian oriole
What looks good? Maybe Katori with the dub coupon reset?
slow marlin
katori is prob the worst u can get
severe plank
Just give me defence at this point raaahhh
trail salmon
when you bow before the Empress and say no more prpr
prpr
glass crystal
https://tenor.com/view/lie-lie-detector-cap-you-are-lying-stop-lying-gif-1219838...
you wish you're right, but you're just a guy who thinks he's smart, but is usually wrong and never admits it. that's why your life is so shitty π
trail salmon
poi~
light harbor
I am seal clubbing
steel pier
i could see missles in ops tbh
i mean, this game mode with missiles sure, but it prob wont return like this
glass crystal
you need to start accepting the reality around you bro
fringe crow
i could see missles in ops tbh
Missile ships no matter how you handle it won't gel well with the current crop of gun-focused ships
obsidian oriole
That I won't use
obsidian oriole
Fucking wow, thanks for describing Varyag
trail salmon
π
severe plank
What if the day before the update drops WG says sike and gives the heals to DDs instead
obsidian oriole
British DD line in shambles
azure marten
Fucking wow, thanks for describing Varyag
maybe its a truely balanced ship?
trail salmon
^
grizzled relic
you wish you're right, but you're just a guy who thinks he's smart, but is usual...
It seems you fant prove yourself right so you just defualt to calling peoples life shitty to which is also projecting quite hard
severe plank
Truke
fringe crow
This game would be perfectly balanced if all ships were replaced by Varyag
obsidian oriole
Even Atago has something to go with it
glass crystal
It seems you fant prove yourself right so you just defualt to calling peoples li...
you need to start accepting the reality bro
obsidian oriole
And Atago is a true icon of balance
slow marlin
its tier 3. the budged isnt big enough to make tier 1-3 ships interesting
grizzled relic
you need to start accepting the reality bro
This*
severe plank
Might trade in my Azuma and Marceau for Indy and Eugen respectively
grizzled relic
And what reality do you live in where pommern is better than los andes
river dune
i can get seal or monmouth from trade in, but idk if i want either
glass crystal
And what reality do you live in where pommern is better than los andes<:Clueless...
you need to first understand the topic and then be able to understand the reality we live in
severe plank
I also want inchworm but I donβt have enough t10 premiums Iβm willing to throw away for inchworm
obsidian oriole
Seal is the only thing I can trade for
lucid wagon
i can get seal or monmouth from trade in, but idk if i want either
Monmouth is pretty good.
obsidian oriole
And it's either throw a T10, pay half, or do a really bad value trade to get it
lucid wagon
It has good AP and actual survivability unlike Gibraltar
obsidian oriole
A really bad value meaning a rare T10
livid bridge
i found some new crack
lucid wagon
A really bad value meaning a rare T10
just gamble it out of santa container later
wheat cobalt
monmouth
obsidian oriole
I prefer Defence over Monmouth
honest silo
Both are cruiser right?
wheat cobalt
sevastopol is better than monmouth
light harbor
This was about as dumb as I expected
obsidian oriole
Sevastopol really only has potential historical value going for it
fringe crow
Project 69I
lucid wagon
sevastopol is better than monmouth
a lot of people say crazier things
like this dude in chat right now saying that Los Andes is worse then Pommern
lmao
fringe crow
Chateaurenault
The Italian ship taken over and refitted by the French using German guns
obsidian oriole
And all sorts of things
I noted some time ago that the Chateaurenault is built in a similar way to the T47 class (Cassard)
I feel like if they would've had spare 127s, they would've likely put them on her
stiff burrow
jetrussy in chat
obsidian oriole
They both ended up very similar
honest silo
They both ended up very similar
What ship is the first one?
plush oxide
I feel like if they would've had spare 127s, they would've likely put them on he...
I'm not sure if the germans ever intended to have the 105s act as primary weapons on any of their ships at all
obsidian oriole
Chateaurenault
wheat cobalt
like this dude in chat right now saying that Los Andes is worse then Pommern
cooked
obsidian oriole
I'm not sure if the germans ever intended to have the 105s act as primary weapon...
They did
Some of their lighter and earlier destroyers had 105s
plush oxide
I thought they were mainly designed for anti aircraft duties
obsidian oriole
And Z42 has some historical basis
obsidian oriole
I thought they were mainly designed for anti aircraft duties
So are the 100mm on Akizuki
stiff burrow
@obsidian oriole haiii uwu :3
obsidian oriole
Anti air only guns on destroyers wasn't new
obsidian oriole
<@421321657949487105> haiii uwu :3
plush oxide
No but the low caliber wouldn't have been ideal
fringe crow
The 105s were actually pretty good heavu AA guns
honest silo
Chateaurenault
Oh, ok and thanks.
obsidian oriole
No
stiff burrow
Tony will nuke jetro
plush oxide
No
fringe crow
Anti-surface screening was only a secondary task for these ships if even that
obsidian oriole
Both Chateaurenault and Cassard end up being anti air destroyers
obsidian oriole
Proximity fuses for 105mm while unique, would very much be possible to do. Increasing their lethality
stiff burrow
calling mods rn
obsidian oriole
plush oxide
Proximity fuses for 105mm while unique, would very much be possible to do. Incre...
I really just thought all this time that chateaurenault was just a pity prize if anything
didn't ever think she was sea worthy
obsidian oriole
It's funny that for being an anti air destroyer, they really did not give Chateau the AA value its supposed to have
plush oxide
It's funny that for being an anti air destroyer, they really did not give Chatea...
this is very common for WG
anti air destroyers with no real AA values
obsidian oriole
She has a heavy anti air presence too
obsidian oriole
Those 105s would have select proximity shells made for them, and those 1948 ACADs are very lethal mounts
stiff burrow
Jetro do you like Salem
obsidian oriole
Yes
livid bridge
105s had 1948 ACDC playing inside
plush oxide
nayt stop
obsidian oriole
Thunderstruck is a universal standard for ships
livid bridge
I'm waiting for research, so not now
obsidian oriole
I like the Salem though. Have the funny Star Trek skin they made for it
stiff burrow
I like the Salem though. Have the funny Star Trek skin they made for it
nerd
fork
dork
obsidian oriole
Suffer
livid bridge
the worse Galaxy skin for DM
obsidian oriole
It was removed from practically everything
livid bridge
π
obsidian oriole
the worse Galaxy skin for DM
That's not a Galaxy class
light harbor
I continue to club seals
fringe crow
The space skin for DM is just lumpy
stiff burrow
club
My seal
livid bridge
That's not a Galaxy class
we are not in class
obsidian oriole
The theme is a very different ship
stiff burrow
The theme is a very different ship
holy shit you really are a star war dork
stiff burrow
same thing
obsidian oriole
Or send a heat guided missile through the gate
stiff burrow
Or send a heat guided missile through the gate
p90 is mid my man
shrewd fable
wanna guess what ship?
stiff burrow
Hildebrand
shrewd fable
no
wheat cobalt
petrol
stiff burrow
kearsarge
shrewd fable
nop
hidden imp
Somers was removed from santa containers right? I'm not lying to myself?
Yes because i got everything from santa containers last Christmas and somers wasnβt there
obsidian oriole
No torpedoes, definitely has a faster fire rate than most ships, and secondary guns
shrewd fable
No torpedoes, definitely has a faster fire rate than most ships, and secondary g...
ye
severe plank
Is this marseille
shrewd fable
the result be out of yalls mind
obsidian oriole
Hmmm. No fires or incaps
shrewd fable
Is this marseille
close but no
obsidian oriole
Your ship looks to be AP only
shrewd fable
Hmmm. No fires or incaps
i was using ap all game
severe plank
Oh so itβs Cherbourg
shrewd fable
Your ship looks to be AP only
no
shrewd fable
Oh so itβs Cherbourg
t10
severe plank
Hmm
obsidian oriole
Hmmm. I'd say probably Moskva
wheat cobalt
repu
stiff burrow
Kurdish
obsidian oriole
With 143 hits. Hmmmmmmm
obsidian oriole
That explains the higher shell hits
trail salmon
rhoude island lol
Damn it
stiff burrow
Ok I was close
trail salmon
I was far off from guessing
severe plank
Explains why marseille was close ig
wide stratus
I guessed sete de Septembero close enough
trail salmon
trail salmon
Fun with seal clubbing?
wide stratus
Both bbs
languid thorn
severe plank
Fair enough
wide stratus
Both has guns and both can in fact move
light harbor
Fun with seal clubbing?
Fun with EU sealclubbing
trail salmon
Ah
wide stratus
So it's close enough
light harbor
New account and all that
trail salmon
Ah yes
trail salmon
I did the same with asia
severe plank
That must mean Kansas and Georgia are the same because theyβre BBs
stiff burrow
I did the same with asia
Why are you here
wide stratus
Indeed
obsidian oriole
Around a third of the way to another reset for Harugumo
trail salmon
Why are you here
Siempre estoy aqui
languid thorn
Both American too
one is pan american
obsidian oriole
But like another 2 months till the next 2x
light harbor
My PR must be insanely high right now
stiff burrow
Siempre estoy aqui
you need to get a new pastime
trail salmon
You missed the pan khlaxia
obsidian oriole
Chateaurenault is looking like it'll be Christmas when I get it
honest silo
Just curious guys.
wheat cobalt
me when
honest silo
Are British Submarine good?
stiff burrow
No
river dune
Are British Submarine good?
@radiant olive 
knowledge seeker
obsidian oriole
He's not gonna be thrilled about that
stiff burrow
he can cope
void relic
i would never
light harbor
She would never
little abyss
lucid wagon
bro Jinan did not need those fire chance buffs π
river dune
when do i get my own gif
trail salmon
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1483857316095987794/1489797245086990356/o...
OMG its my gifff
river dune
i'm actually heartbroken and sad
light harbor
when do i get my own gif <:PepeHands:767138998056517662>
You're cursed like me
stiff burrow
@obsidian oriole 1v1 me for who is more dominant
light harbor
Too boring to need a gif
void relic
i never asked for one
steel pier
i would never
you would never Empress
obsidian oriole
<@421321657949487105> 1v1 me for who is more dominant
You and what navy
trail salmon
My PR must be insanely high right now
wait lemme check
void relic
it simply manifested
trail salmon
what user
light harbor
tired_of_your_crap
void relic
see
obsidian oriole
me and my Hildebrand
So you are no threat to me
void relic
i got 2 loyal goobers that vouch for me never spouting misinformation
stiff burrow
i got 2 loyal goobers that vouch for me never spouting misinformation
you bribed them with discord nitro
void relic
for example
rustic hearth
obsidian oriole
Cheshire, you are a foul demon
stiff burrow
So you are no threat to me
whatβs your main ship anyways
honest silo
Just curious, but what you will get during the Trade-in AFKaveman?
void relic
you get half credit
obsidian oriole
Who is foul
tall geyser
uss iowa
rustic hearth
i am a demon though
so you admit
stiff burrow
<:Clueless:1475851221028831263>
hi swifty
void relic
lavender is a respectable smell
obsidian oriole
whatβs your main ship anyways
Whatever interests me for the day, and whatever the ship randomizer picks
stiff burrow
Whatever interests me for the day, and whatever the ship randomizer picks
yeah but lie
like
radiant olive
Are British Submarine good?
they are very much not
stiff burrow
if you 1v1 me, and I pick hildebussy, whatcha picking
void relic
so you admit
usually im called a vampire
river dune
Just curious, but what you will get during the Trade-in AFKaveman?
i have everything on the list but seal or monmouth, so i'm not sure if i'll get anything
severe plank
Randomizer says sec build Pensacola
trail salmon
usually im called a vampire
VAMPIRE
obsidian oriole
if you 1v1 me, and I pick hildebussy, whatcha picking
Probably Rhode Island
stiff burrow
holy mid
radiant olive
stiff burrow
also Pedrols, https://discordapp.com/channels/669128285527080961/146342783972973...
holy what tf is the visual mod
trail salmon
and i like the taste of iron
don't you lack iron
rustic hearth
usually im called a vampire
oh, you too?
void relic
yes
lucid wagon
o no
radiant olive
clear underwater view
void relic
thats why i like iron
stiff burrow
clear underwater view
garbage
rustic hearth
i avoid the sun like an actual vampire
fringe crow
and i like the taste of iron
And the conspicuous coffin in your cellar
rigid crypt
i mean, sometimes suboptimal builds can be great too. I have my Bismarck set up with 10km secondaries and it works perfectly.
honest silo
i have everything on the list but seal or monmouth, so i'm not sure if i'll get ...
Oh, nice I was thinking of getting Atlanta and Sims a maybe a Battleship, but still thinking.
void relic
And the conspicuous coffin in your cellar
decoration for Halloween!
honest silo
they are very much not
I see and thanks.
trail salmon
thats why i like iron
huh
honest silo
As I also don't know if Brandenburg is still good.
trail salmon
WDYM SPEAK UP
void relic
are you free elo?
void relic
i scared him away
obsidian oriole
No
woven marsh
> Premium battleship Repulse
What?
shrewd fable
i got 2 loyal goobers that vouch for me never spouting misinformation
whats ur next name neptune
obsidian oriole
void relic
whats ur next name neptune
i will return to hen
woven marsh
Hey BOBTHEBALL.
Hello Andrea how are you
void relic
3rd times the charm
rigid crypt
I like Dunkirk. Nice ship. Walmart JB.
fringe crow
Robert the Sphere has arrived
honest silo
Hello Andrea how are you
Fine thanks also a bit tired and you?
void relic
im more powerful
light harbor
This is true
light harbor
Yes