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Latest event maybe?
I haven't opened the game yet so I have no idea which event is currently active right now.
Uh
that line exists solely to stadpad bbs 
Maybe Weimar but I don’t play German cruisers
There is Mainz also if not wrong?
München 
What does muncher do anyway
i mean...azur lane? it's just anime collab
just got great mm, 3 enemy bbs so few overmatch
munch munch munch
Weimar but not as fun
Nice.
Weimar is also available
Weimar with heals
I highly recommend

I’m getting Eugen
As is, of course, Atlanta
Might be worth playing now because she gets buffed
which flavour?
Zara class cruisers with heals 🤤
Fiume my beloved
Ive played one game in Fiume and it was a loss
vanilla
B(attery) flavour
So there is Mainz, München and Weimar right?
the list is there on the devblog
Nice!
i really like fiume
Fiume? 
the modified shells delete broadside cruisers and dds if you can land a shot
Gorizia is also nice
Fiume is goated
hm
Yeah I have It open on my Laptop, but currently at home for eat lunch and then get back in office.
I'm debating if I want to go through my villainess arc and get Bearn
how do trade-in events work? i have never done one before
I want to get kaga but I’m so out of practice
I have Gorizia tbh.
Also I wish I could throw away my champagne
do i have to trade in a ship that is a tier above to get a ship?
You trade-in a ship two tiers higher for one of the options if you want it for free
Where Fiume's MBRB, if that's the case
wait its only 2 tiers and above?

So to get a tier 8, you need to give a tier 10
But yeah if you want to do a division I'm avaiable later in the Afternoon OOGABOOGABOOGAOOGA.
sansonetti confederate trust 
are you able to trade in most ships that are available for coal in the armory?
What t10s can I throw away for kaga and Eugen
I have an exam tomorrow and Im busy with exams this week so i seriously doubt that I will play much if at all
Coal ships
the only ships i'm really interested in getting from the event are probably dunkerque and texas
yes, same with steel and RB ships iirc
Oh, ok and good luck.
Also any battleships you have
I have Marceau, Yoshino and tromp
Nice.
I’ll toss away Marceau
Except U-4501 for some reason
I like it but I’ll just get it back

Sherman with engine boost though
to smite the people who got it from the TX containers/firepower containers and who will never play the ship

this is what you get for not following daddy WG's vision and playing submarines
you get a sub you cant get rid of

I think probably the only Battleship I Will get is HMS Vanguard, but not sure at 100% guys.
Hmm
why get rid of U-4501 when i can smite bots with it and have fun
Might also get rid of my Azuma

more festive rewards
Why would I play any Kite HE spammer when I have Hindenburg and Bremen

Amonge
amogus
I'll either throw Napoli away or I use Kearsarge and eat the 2k dubs cost
I'm getting rid of Kearsarge either way
Hmm
more U-4501 induced crimes tomorrow 
I don’t even play Napoli anymore should I throw it away
i can't really afford to get rid of it because i don't really have any other ships that fit the same niche right now
of a tanky secondary focused cruiser
Vanguard and Brandenburg are the only two Battleship present in the Trade-in right guys?
Regele Carol 😎
She's a coal ship so sure
I mean I already found another secondaries focused, somewhat tanky cruiser
I sent the list, scrool up a bit
plus i'm just in the coal-grinding phase of the game trying to pick up all of the coal ships i want
And it’s tech tree lol
I forget sorry.
Adalbert?
Dw when Affondatore comes out that ship will be NOTHING
yeah I like adalfart but she feels too much like a BB
That ship will serve ZERO purpose
also affondatore is a supershit, and a BB at that
No, Marseille obviously 
so she's automatically mid
Ga y vlog
Secondary Marseille gaming
she's right, it's actually marseille
My credits are spawncamping affondatore
I fucking love marseille

the minute she releases shes in
i've only reached Knesebeck so far in the German panzerschiff line
Icl I just skipped from Scheer to Adalbert
and i don't have the credits to buy it
I aint got no time to play low tier
i played through deutschland and scheer
scheer and deutschland are mid anyway so no use in playing them
I’ve played through the whole line 🤑
why play graf spee when deustchland with heals is gonna exist 
they will probably more tolerable after the heal update
i was considering waiting for the update to do it but i was already really close to getting it done anyway

actually pain
slower than kongo
yeah them being slow was definitely the biggest point against them for me
which can match with both of them
plus a relatively weak armor scheme
I will be back later guys and have fun.
time to run izumo without any module upgrades
this will be great
at least I have modifications
And thanks OOGABOOGABOOGAOOGA for before.
are you sure
pretty sure
are you sure
Ive played every TT T9 BB except Lion
Its more the case of having garbage guns consistency wise and you having 1 or sometimes maybe 2 tries per enemy to score cits
yeh pretty sure
Looks at Adatara
Id take Izumo over Adatara any day of the week
I'd say the only people playing poommern are people looking to grind credits but

idk I've always beaten poommerns in xp in every pve game I see them in
I'd take Adatara for better uptiering and funny plane
Theres a reason I regrinded the IJN BB line like 4 times 
me too tbh
Izumo 🤤
Bungo truly is a Bungo of all time
Mmmmmm
Also a reason why I spent money on Bajie
EWWWWW
brother what 
we have an ice dweller in the chat
it's great because you can pretty much turn your brain off and get a consistent 1 mil with blue boosters in ops
You masohist!
waht?
That being said, Andes is way better than either Izumo or Adatara
Izumo is good 
Izumo sucks ALOT
Mostly because Andes is a tier 10 at tier 9 for some reason
what?
yeah but andeez nuts is boring af so it doesn't count
in what universe are we living in 
izumo does not suck lmao
true masochism would be regrinding the entire us bb line
+its ugly
may be one of the takes of all time
Its horrable
Izumo is ugly
beauty is in the eye of the beholder
nothing to do with the strength of the ship
Not bad
Including the other 2 branches?
ok then why does it suck
indeed. Thats why its + and nit the reason
any Swedish here?
yup
because then you're playing colorado for like
an obscene amount of matches
Gun layout. Accuracy. Shell catcher.
Dang I should try that now just I have 0 American tt battleships
what's wrong with the izumo gun layout? it's almost identical to the rodney
which iirc is a pretty strong gun layout
The C turret being pointed backwards for some reason
If they were all forward she'd be a lot better
because it's trying to copy off the superior all forward gun ship, marseille
and it fails miserably
Having the forward facing turrets A,B, and X are just nice cause you only need to face 1 direction more or less the entire game.
I am racist twoard mid superstructure turrets overall. But no, it sucks. Have to give plenty of side to get all guns going. Not to mention slow turning of guns and guns facing back meaning having to rotate gun 270 or so deg every time you meaningfully steer your ship.
I mean so do normal setups but like. It culd have faced front and be so much better.
i just realized that the barbettes on the izumo don't go past the deck armor
that's not normal
Don’t let bro see the Izmail
You little shit
pretty uh... noticeable gap there
izmail my beloved
don't let brochacho see the agincourt hull
If Izumo accuracy is considered bad then what the fuck are Italian BBs? You have some of the best performing AP, the armour overall is solid, good midsection deck armour, a tiny superstructure an exposed 350mm smthn belt for bouncing bad shots, I have never noticed the shell catchers you speak of and I have played both Izumo and Bajie extensively.

just play it like a kiter
or the libertad hull
The notion that Izumo is somehow bad is truly baffling
4k
or mikasa my beloved 🥀
if you play it like a kiter, you can fire three of four main battery guns backwards
My apologies
I love the agincourt I remember when I dev struck a Pensacola from across the map Ik it’s not hard but still funny.
and mitigate the shit soviet armor
y are u apologising you arent the one who sent the orignal message 
That being said it is kind of funny
trust: the ammo elevator doesnt exist in this gap, the shells enter portal, once they go above the deck armor and leave portal in the barbette 
At least it isn't that one guy who just straight up said he was racist 
I am used to bad dispersion. I play german bbs. And yet i feel how bad the dispersion is. And if i feel it then its bad.
Italy compensates with many guns. Izumo has 9 with often just 6 if you are not afraid to do any kind of meaningfull manuvers.
But all this
At t9.
Ur dealing with t10s and superships
Thats horrable.
so what's new?
Idk.
ur making it out like the dispersion is the worst at the tier
meanwhile its 2.0 sigma with improved horizontal and worse vertical
simple solution: Ops or Asym car
Italian dispersion feels good honestly and yes I also grinded German BB’s.
Tit for tat I suppose
xD
what is the worst tech tree bb dispersion?
Alsace probably
Vertical I think its IJN, and I think horizontal its the French
In terms of raw dispersion
don't play french BBs first
french BBs were the beginning of my hatred for BBs
secondaries no good + she is too slow.
main guns. and abit sec focus, done
and overall as a combination of both its the Italians before the change
Its still horrable
Like
Izumo is just bad.
Idk what to say, skill issue 🤷♂️
Tell us why
I told above
French ships are weird their all like technically 1 tier lower then what they are but they get buffed guns n stuff
I do not care enough about izumo to repeat myself
Speed is standard for BBs
Izumo propably one of the better t9 BBs tbh
apparently shell catchers are part of it? Bad accuracy and bad turret layout
And IJN BBs aren't generally supposed to be secbuilt
30 knots is standard
Nice accuracy good shells
honestly if I hadn't played french BBs I would have a milder opinion on BBs
should i restart my pc
You can't build Yama for secs either
Accuracy, gun layout, shellcatcher.
probably right
i started to play french bbs and the bretagne is... one of my least favorite ships that i've played
The accuracy is very good
which is what I just said 
Yama has 460s and better dispersion
armour is also good
And that is what i said before you said that.
well I am repeating what you said for the other person because they asked.
it's just the new york part 2 with weaker guns and armor
Okay sweetie <3
and i don't get better guns in the tech tree until the richelieu
i love divs so much
Yamato is also a tier higher
I should just start diving with some sugar daddies that are going to teach me how to play
Duh.
not in ops, if you play her well enough
Gun layout preety ok, 36 forward angle is not bad for an old bb
Izumo also has a better hull than Yamato imo
like it doesn't count if I don't do it by myself
That'll take you actual years
Unironically
Shell catcher. I mean yes yamato cheek sure.
do y'all think that the US premium secondary bb line starts at massa or wv '44?
But shell catcher is annoing.
44
Arkansas.
West Virginia 1944.
that's what i think too because it fills a similar niche as the colorado just with goated secondaries
can this game not put me in uptiers
no
in stock hull izumo
you will get double uptiered and you will like it
Ar-kan-sas

you'll get used to it
Your first mastake is using izumo
i know
?
With all honesty guys, I really like a lot and also enjoy her a lot USS West Virginia BB-48.
Izumo's good.
Second is playing a stock ship.
too bad, I'm getting yamato
Hey Brandon0sh.
yeah i like the West Virginia a lot
hubris
Nice.
Baaaaaaad. It sucks
one only need to learn her
named "are kansas"
isn't kansas
What?
explain
hello andy 
it doesn't feel as bad as playing the Colorado because the secondaries feel like they actually do stuff
So, the crux of your arguments against Izumo are:
How is Izumo bad?
I cant get a ship to work therefore it sucks 
bad accuracy
Maybe like few years ago, sure?
I will repeat myself then.
can't be secbuilt
Hey Hot_Potato_Gruel.
Izumo has very good accuracy and ballistics though?
armor vulnerabilities
Hey AdorableElaina.
Hello, Andrea.
the vertical is bad yes, but its still 2.0 sigma and better than average horziontal 
It's what they are suggesting, so
The 3A, from 2A
i think another thing that makes west virginia feel good to play is the short cooldown on it's repair party
Dispersion is shit, turret layour annoing and missed oportunity, shell catcher on front on a ship that has all guns on front
True.
even though it heals less damage overall compared to the colorado
being able to pop it every 40 seconds feels very good
Tbf and also honestly saying I like have sister ship in Port in game.
Eh...?
- Shit turret layout, fair enuff.
- Dispersion being shit, then how on earth you survived through Nagato and Amagi?
- Shell catcher, eh, it's small enough, and on a plus side your superstructure is tiny.
and makes the w. virginia more survivable in the short term compared to the colorado
right?
If anything I liked Izumo somewhat better than Yamato
also Izumo gets the cracked IJN AP
Then again, it's been a while since I played Izumo
This too.
I think it actually has better raw penetration than Yamato even?
yeh
Ah yes. Beacouse everything is like that and guys guys, you can play ANY ship And EVERY SHIP IS GOOD if you just ✨play it well✨.
Yes sure sure! My mastake!
i enjoyed Nagato and Amagi big time. so i can make Izumo work too
excellent pen for 406s, well I guess 410s
Battles: 29
Wins: 62.07% (18/11/0)
Survival: 51.72% (15/14)
Base EXP: 1 277
Damage: 92 661
Kills: 1.00
Aircraft: 2.21
Spotted: 0.14
Scouting: 20 923
Potential: 1 305 057
Base EXP: 2 137
Damage: 163 426
Kills: 4
Aircraft: 14
Spotted: 1
Scouting: 62 073
Potential: 2 607 766
Main Battery: (27/4/33.99%)
Secondaries: (0/0/11.24%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (0/0/-)
Rams: (1/1/-)
and then there's baije
Yep, correct.
abit hesitant, sure, but Izumo surprised me
Better™
which is izumo, but more accurate
41cm guns
Nah Izumo is just a really good car
7th on the Bajie Leaderboards right here 😎
Battles: 51
Wins: 74.51% (38/13/0)
Survival: 76.47% (39/12)
Base EXP: 1 597
Damage: 122 474
Kills: 1.76
Aircraft: 3.53
Spotted: 0.14
Scouting: 21 412
Potential: 1 411 588
Base EXP: 2 734
Damage: 234 687
Kills: 5
Aircraft: 23
Spotted: 2
Scouting: 67 158
Potential: 2 804 965
Main Battery: (84/4/38.20%)
Secondaries: (2/1/15.93%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (2/1/-)
Rams: (1/1/-)
very nice
I honestly need to buy back IJN Izumo.
true
I mean, it's not like Izumo's bad bad.
Please play FdG!
and based
Too bad it doesn't fricking land 70% of the time.
I mean i got some nice citadels with her but thats no good if 70% of other time you don't do shit.
thank you for this unironically good take that has blessed my eyes
No no, genuinely, how do you find Izumo's less accurate than, say, Nagato or Amagi?
It's the same dispersion pattern.
And same as Yamato as well
You just ⭐ refused to adapt ✨
-# I mean mv affect it a bit but it's miniscule™ compared to sigma or other parameters
well technically Yamato has better vertical
Im doing that right now. At least it has secondaries. Also 30 knots on upgraded or so? I forgot. Where izumo had like 27 or 28 (i like speed around 30 but thats my personal prefrence. So i didn't include it im reasons why izumo sucks)
why does the west virginia's guns feel so much better than colorado's despite having worse stats
am i just getting unlucky with the colorado
Same pattern
Better vertical just happens to come from the max range increase
true
I mean, fair enough, I do enjoy FdG though on account on it being a different flavor.
It's kinda, to be frank, shit.
Colorado guns are pretto good wut
i know that's what i mean
I admit Izumo vertical was kinda shit, then I just ran range and it was fine 
but it feels like every time i play it it's just a shotgun
trust colorado should get Elbing dispersion
but the stats tell me that the colorado should be better artillery-wise than the west virginia
I mean fdg used to be worse. Donno anything about old izumo since i never plaid here before the last christmas thing.
colorado has higher sigma and lower vertical dispersion and everything else is identical
and the shells fly faster
Well, point is, if you don't like Izumo, it's fine. But the ship's not objectively bad or anything; it has its own ups and some downs.
How many games is the question
And so i am saying she sucks, after she has been buffed. Without previous instances of playing her. I think this better than someone saying its good on account of it being worse before
Well I'm not saying it's good because it's bad before; it is good, since I played her after said buffs.
my account is old but before December I hadn't played in several years
Cuz even like 100 matches you can have bad experience with one set of guns while others behave well
Might be odd that we have wildly differing experiences.
I mean if you can make something work its fine. You will still hear me yaping how its bad tho
Its like with gk. Gk is mid. But we still use it.
Well, I also play GK. It's shit, but I kinda like it.
Izumo is good right now, because of its current state, not because of anything that happend before
why GK when Preussen 

Yup
My point exactly, then I just randomly uses her like a Conqueror.
the 420 has some real stupid fire chance increase over the 406.
Guys is it good we won 3 games in a row larping with mation only lineups in cbs?
We played full german one
Or a only dutch
People simply like mistaking disliking the ship for ship being bad
Oh I hated Kitakaze, and loved Z46.
Yet Kitakaze is better, I admit.
Still not playstyle.
Then there's my Grozovoi. Love that little dinky thing.
Delner
This is a sigh. A sigh from god.
I still did not regret throwing my Grozovoi against a Smaland and winning.
Delner better car than Grozo
You do WHAT.
the 3 cannons turret syndrome
On the plank you go!
why ohio when preussen
Eh, I have Thun, Conq, and Montana. Just bored.
why any of these when UU Repub
I kneel 🛐
Nice.
Tbh I just got yesterday Illinois AdorableElaina.
Good, you enjoy it?
on the Izumo plank you go

we install a pirate styl plank on her side, just next to her bridge. to jump overboard from
or rather, to will be having jumped 
What??
🤫
"Will be having jumped" as a sentence warrants only a "what??" response tbh
no Carabinieri ? 
Hell yeah! I don't wanna touch that thing even through a stick and a cloth.
She's the only ship in my yard without a captain, couse no mortal shuld suffer commanding that thing
(Im being dramatic)
~~the catch is, after you jump off the plank, there will be a portal below (cuz magic, why not) and it will teleport you back on the bridge of Izumo, where you will be locked in, with all hatches sealed shut~

Nope, SWAT.
the Izumo always needs a captain, cuz if no one is captain, then no one has the key for the chest. part of the ship, part of the crew! part of the ship, part of the crew! part of the ship,.....
Carabinieri better and more style
Huh
this better not be oval office now
anyway i go now
See you later Royalty_Business.
^-^
can i stop getting teams where the average wr is 41%
u2
Simply don't look at it. Life is better if you don't know.
For all of us.
or play Ops, way more simple
i needed to boot up mm monitor to understand wtf my team was doing
~~or simply dont have MMM at all
~~
nah i like it
i didnt mean u by that 

Its a comment.
will playing a sub make me good
It did for me
what build do you guys run on ohio
playing Ops and sub together
ive tried all of them and they all suck
i dont own Ohio, dont need it
Ohio builds or subs
ohio builds
I just go full main battery on ohio
I have USS Ohio BB-68 on my list to get tbh.
She's a good bote,be it a bit bland
I see and thanks Arden.
Ohio is safe, Ohio is reliable.
Its very safe staying in port
But yeah for the moment I wouldn't reset any line after finishing the re-grind of Schlieffen and getting Illinois.
hi andrea :>
Hey Starminx.
this game is ragebaiting me man full broadside smolensk stationary and 0 shell hits
Hence why you need a sub. Least rng influenced class in the game
and i have a 40% full HP sibir calling everyone else shit
you have chat turned on!? o.O
obviously
:O
how else am i gonna talk shit
Well duh, how else would you get mid-game entertainment
But yeah the 457mm Mk.A main gun of Ohio are really interressing.
I also occasionally use it to play mind games
Are there any good YT vids covering sub play - guides etc? Most of the major good players who stream etc won’t play subs, so not sure what to trust.
is ohio a big bb or a skinny bb?
Yuro's guide
Yuro's guide is an excellent way to learn the absolute basics
Big one as she is a Montana-Class Battleship.
I had sunk a Sibir at Close range with Big Wisky.
She is strong, but not OP.
Just look at Cristoforo Colombo with Leg mod and Valparaiso.
do you guys run repair party readiness or the seconary skill on ohio
Said this in the other topic - I’d rather Wisky be as it is and need people to aim well to succeed than have braindead auto gun ships like Lib
and giving it comedy F key
is p oof
I love this ship personally
extremely consistent
Same Big Wisky is my favourite #1 tbh.
i cant believe it this game
Boo womp sound effect
You should believe it, given how common matches like that are
Noway...
wows chat is so funny
i finally get good teammates but they're all raging at each other even though we're winning by a landslide
cinema
Hey David.
heyo
preussen the poor mans ohio
Oh, the new teaser for the Hunt of the Bismarck is Amazing.
I just watched it on YouTube.
Slava solos midsconsin
I do that too especially when I'm the one who carried the flank and the BBs are at max HP
7 on 7 TWO cv's and i'm the only T6
Skill issue
They're going to fix it, eventually
Surcouf lmao
no tonjin or something
Tonijn
Oh that bote
Its fun and engaging
buh 2P div Haarlem
Tonijn is honestly quite average
its a stupid creature
you can't farm shit when you lose 15-20% of your health no matter your angle...
surely
doesnt help the people Ive seen playing it are generally lobotomised 
I want to believe
as a fellow slava enjoyer you must believe
Sounds like NA prpblem
Hey EmpressCheshire.

Hey 44smok.
sup
Im not on your server
thankfully
Ches 

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@wheat cobalt see
Slava OP 😱
Can citadel Wisconsin
hardly!
uptier is prob the reason i get my E's easy
I mean yeah cruisers getting overmatched to shit is not NA specific 
Earlier today i played a game in my anhalt for giggles
Instant E
how much BXP?
You'd expect a guy who has over 10k battles to just get used to it
2k+
❗ ❗
GLORIOUS
@steel pier
For once german guns actually cooperated and i first blood devstruck a fiume
i can understand if getting uptiered in a t6 or t7
67
at t8 its whatever
What I like of Wisconsin Is that you can Citadel Grosset Kurfurst.
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yep
well that isnt unique to Wisconsin though 
I see.
Someone with a ZH-1. Looks like that was paid through
Ive citadelled GKs with Vyazma 
Nice.
Bad investment
Ive seen a couple aswell 
that 2P div Haarlem again lmao
I guess people really want that steel or smthn
nah
Matchfixing smh
ZH-1 mentioned
torp the smog
Regarding the Dockyard.
Oops
which is better
I'm honestly grinding It outside of the Starter Pack.
Neither
first one is best

and Oquendo
this is what i run normally
normal BB build
fym
I'd say
its a good build
ewww
for skibidi Ohio
its pretty much 0815 tank build no
but i lowkey keep shoving my head into the enemy so i wanna try a close range build
It's a generic BB build
yeah this is like a bog standard BB build 
Only thing I may do is swap out Brisk for the 2pt AA skill
otherwise thats what I would run on Ohio
i agree w you but i dont wanna cxp for a minimal upgrade
Hey elmir.
Hey Rias.
I'd remove CE to get the better secondary range tbh
Hmmm. People being way too passive in asymmetric again
more money for you
my average game in Asyms 
they are all playing Schlieffen and Libertad and are dead within 8 minutes
Nice.

Did they get torp-diffed by bots
if you wanna be more risky this is also a good default bb build
My average game is half of them not being aggressive enough
average game in operation, npc bring supership to the match, but cant carry its weight, we lose because every bot have super HP.
👋
probably..didnt pay attention
Staying behind and letting their team get destroyed because they don't do a push
ive tried similar stuff but honestly it never works for me
Bot behaviour so yeah
I hope my teammates bring a supership
i feel like dpm upgrades arent that useful on bbs
have the nerfs to asyms BXP been applied yet?
yea this one is less forgiving for misspositioning
no issue with supership,the issue is when they play bad with it
it becomes a hidrance
Just curious guys.
supership buff the bots, if you cant play well with supershit
Reminds me of the Bismarck with max hp shooting behind an island, while I was tanking way too much shit in yumihari
No, the issue is when they play half decent
the team risk losing
They steal damage
Did you saw the teaser of 15.4 Hunt for the Bismarck?
😎
Yeah I agree.
wishing warf for a tier8 fancy bismarck
💀
This is my damage stay away from it
I don't like superships in asymmetric, mainly from how badly they do the bots from it
Play like a bot pls
BUT MUH MANUAL SECONDARIES 😱
BASICALLY T10

Your team can bring 1 supership, 20% of your team composition, and it ends up making 90% of the bots T9s
its basically a buffed tech tree bismarck
Wait really?
ys
Oh, ok.
Naval legacy ships
it gets better accuracy on its guns and manual secondaries iirc
and a speedboost
yes,you can get prince of weew and bismark 41 with direct purchase
And johnston
At the price of?
wait theres a direct purchase?
but the bismarck with real life battle damage only in whishin warf
I see and thanks.
I thought PoW and Bis 41 were only in the wishing wharf?
No hydro
Just that?
both will be there too, the exclusive whishing warf is a close of bismarck 41 with another name
well this is 2026 wows we are talking about 
Pretty much
they did just release Turgut Reis at T8 
At least give it slightly worse guns
the reload is worse iirc
Uh not just that
Tbh guys.
LMAO just triple blind killed a sub
Like 6-7s worse reload
I would for sure look at HMS Prince of Wales.
Six…seven?
i didnt see much preliminary review of PoW but i heard its mid as fuck??
2.0 sigma is pretty nice
I want to say it's Bismarck but Scharnhorst 43
I also can't wait to start this set of mission.
But 43 doesn't get better guns
Wait really?
it doesnt look great
it get bigger guns and thats it i think,bismarck 41
So a bit worse than the regular BB reload
i would gladly get worse reload for that sigma, just so my shells can hit something
I mean yes, but ur not gonna be constantly shooting BB guns on cooldown
1.8 is downright unplayable
uh
So pretty mich PoW isn't good?
The only playable BB dispersion is Tennessee ofc
same with Lauria
Factual
thor have 12 shells so it feels fine,you get more shells
Is this bait
has to be
Why is everything you type wrong

thor magically spawning in another turret
Lauria has BC disp ye
I forgot 
Just for know.
yeah my bad, 9 shells
What you guys would suggest to do? Wait and see for HMS Prince of Wales or what?
wait for trade in
Let me just say that normal bismarck has one nice thing going for it and thats fast main gun reload
the star destroyer
no reason to play normal bismarck AT all
I will.
powercrept hard ship
6 guns isn't really nice feeling on a salvo-to-salvo basis
Its more than good
Zieten has epic main guns
22s reload bc disp
zieten actually hit stuff
On 406s
hello chat, how are you doing?
its just that the ship design is weird
I'm fine thanks and hey Barkond.
I am doing fine
doing ok
Hallo Barkond
boring month for wows i think
And good afternoon.
I have become lathe operator again
yeh 😔
Electrician job moment
WHERE IS AFFONDATORE WHERE IS HE RAGHHHHHHHHH
It's an outlier compared to mackensen, heinrich, rupprecht and Schlieffen
2 battle skips , at least italian subs will come out next patch
They get 8 guns
@vague cedartàu ngol ko
hi
mịe nó
And zieten has 6 which feels weird
and the turret placement
god why are all ijn bb players so ass
one front, 2 back?
NDA, man
I can't say anything about it
wrong message
not my fault, ppl say preussen is accurate, this thing can get 2 shells hitting a close range targe
I unironically do better shooting in Aki than I do with Izumo so there's that
ijn bb players are worse than average
I think from trade-in I will get her guys.
valparaiso 
Then there's the IJN torpboaters
i will get the pan asian des moines and i think thats it?
I have her.
Incheon?
i tanked 4.3m potential for my team but these guys literally did 0 damage
vanguard is meh
yeah
Good chance they're using bot scripts
dont listen to HEN
Vanguard is infact a BB that does exist at T8
a DM with smoke and torps looks fun
To play the game for them
same tier as Turgut 😎
Nice.
same tier as Lenin
hey guys time for a guessing game
Yeah I agree.
how much pr is this
Hey shima.
bro this musashi has full broadside ships for days but he's not killing anything man
atleast 5
close
6?
close
Me waiting for an announcment of a normal ship line so I can have something exciting in wows 
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he's 52% too which is like sure it's not great but like cmon click something
Are his turrets facing them? Cause legitimately, IJN turrets are so slow it makes gou never want to turn your guns 180
@vague cedar con sete đấy chụm ko
pan am DDs trust 
where the models are just yoinked from lesta
Musashi also gets much worse turret turning than yamato
the entire enemy team was in the same place and he couldnt do shit

musashi turret traverse is glacial, literally geologic timeline
impressive
@harsh prairie Outside of Vanguard you think it's good picking Atlanta and Sims also?
Wee gee when are we going to get old dockyards back
Nice.
well
atlanta is risky but fun, there is flints in the shop
72 seconds base right?
And if you run reload mod on musashi it gets even worse
yeah, it honestly feel like a minute and half
Nearly 80 seconds?
glacial
i dont waste reload mod on musashi
I'm excited to see what pan american DDs will bring
small gain for a bigger nerf
F key gimmicks galore
Yeh I want the deets
I see, I'm in part used to play the Atlanta-Class as I used San Diego tbh.
Temu American DD’s.
You'll get the deets
Musashi is a sniper, the slow traverse speed is hardly a drawback
Whether you can spill the deets
Why would they suddenly start copying worse models
And thanks Cruxdei.
Horrible turret traverse
mm it's a huge drawback
imo
just play a good ship
Sounds like positioning issue 
If you're in a situation where you need fast turret traverse, you probably have misplayed
Musashi is a good ship lol

no lesta
it seems to come with a -50% IQ debuff
🐴
460s into t7 games is borderline op
Aim better duh
do you aim underwater against smolensk?
Yeh but why would wg yoink worse models lol
If she's close, might as well
because they cant make the models themselves? idk?
Because you overpen her if she's flat in closer ranges
or they are lazy
Why would they not be able to make models themselves
small indie company pls understand
idk Im not WG
just found out Harugumo can citadel cruisers. just dont think its as good as elbing. definitely more guns though
100mm guns 
Ultralights
Me when AP shell can cause cit if pen is high enough
Just curious guys.
i missed getting the M.colonna , now the closest chance i have is the blue archive rerun.
Insane revelation
Brandenburg is good?
Colonna was like the one ship worth getting in that salvage event 
Zieten exists so ye
in the right hands it is. its also a very fun secondary ship.
Brandenburg is kinda whatever
and blue archive version will be overpriced as fuck
I honestly didn't finished in time Liberty Harbor and didn't got Bridgeport and Indiana also.
i dont think WG will put colonna in the prem shop anytime soon
I have Bismarck.
Maybe in Santa Containers?
Well then you have a better ship already
Imagine not getting Surcouf in that salvage event 
WG removed lootboxes AND coupons of my country
because turns out, if you cant buy boxes,why get coupons right?

Oh, ok.
gonna use it for what? decrease cost of ships?thats lame,coupons are for boxes only - Wargaming








