#game-discussion
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Ballthebob
I should play italian cruisers again
but we all have enzyme amylase and pepsin for digestion
wat u guys use for digestions
brindisi's kinda decent
straight acid
Hello
How are you
Robert van Persie 
I use @rustic hearth 
😭

Farsi
pedro was NOT ok there
You need some sleep bro
I am errrr
Indeed
comfymaxxing rn
I’ve never been reported
ok must be the uhh
everyone loves me
ligma playerbase
that was me

what ship
venezia
sounds like a different title
that came out wrong
you dodged too much 
vermungus didnt like that i was doing more damage to him per salvo than he did in return
xd
did you smash a CV
lol rlly
?!
how does a italian cruiser do this???
but the last battle i played was in ven
SAP and dodging magik
y smash CV when u can let CV smashes u 
it was my team... i swear.

if a vermont is broadside u can smash him for 10-15k every salvo pretty easily

yea its ez
like full salvos and even a citadel for an easy 20k
chad build
I run that build
idk what any of those numbers mea
i prefer rudder mod 3 to leg mod tbh
same
Hello Pedro
I should do that someday, but I keep catching stray shots in my citadel on cruisers 
ven cit is massive
Hi how are you
sometimes this chat sounds really weird
yeah pretty alright tbh, just doing some study
What are you up to?
in bed comfymaxxing
Just started my shift
what
Is bro working night shift
how
I'm EU
No your NA
its very long
ven has to be one of the most ridiculous ship length to turning radius cars out there
He's actually from the moon
imposter
also like
the bow and stern are huge
who the fuck puts a watermark on an amongus gif
Venezia is pretty long
wtf
and any underleaders usually clip the ass plate
About the same length as Roma IIRC
China
Nice
how china
Sat
wtf
what language
That's nice
cant read
I like to drink two cups of warm milk before I sleep
KR
Isn't that korean
Bro is 6 year old
🌹
i just got a kill and got the hits thing in one salvo so my ven shot up two green flares lol
Btw pedro, i was on fire last night
What
I got ALL the comps while in a sub
Fire extinguisher
Went from 9 to 15 karma
Which subbussy
Battles: 863
Wins: 70.10% (605/258/0)
Survival: 70.92% (612/251)
Base EXP: 1 747
Damage: 71 248
Kills: 1.22
Spotted: 1.61
Scouting: 58 885
Potential: 154 439
Base EXP: 4 407
Damage: 274 191
Kills: 5
Spotted: 7
Scouting: 333 589
Potential: 881 945
Main Battery: (0/0/-)
Secondaries: (0/0/-)
Torpedoes: (954/5/25.51%)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (0/0/-)
Rams: (32/2/-)
On3 sec
huh
What's your karma at now?
huge
I don't believe you
I dunno, some imaginary number that makes people feel good
chat should I check my karma
I would have to get out of bed
I'd rather have in-game player reviews
Yeah
Wait can I check karma on phone
I wanted to fuel my ego so I looked mine up
I had no reviews of me besides my good friend
I have no reviews at all 
I have 52 karma
Same
Why do you only have 15 karma
is EU servers down or somthin? not letting me connect to servers despite my connection being fine.
16 karma actually
announcmenet
ah. makes sense
What class do i main?
overlord bau hates subs
Is it funny
They're not that bad
he reported a sub on a yt short once
kinda toxic behavior ngl
kinda
What does it say
Ah
and my cv friend griefed him back after i got forced
Yeah
Sleep well
gn
@whole meteor bou once got salty because he was facing me in my lenin, doing lenin things. Calling it overpowered, broken and... more colourful things.
While he was in the experimental t10 version of the michelangelo.....
Yeah i know, bou getting salty, news at 11
huh
Still funny
arden in a surface ship
pot calls the kettle black
LOL
Oh i know full well i was in lenin
But i wasn't complaining about having to face a broken ship
Instead i made it so the enemy team had to carry him out in a bucket. Because i happen to know where you shoot to overmatch cit a michelangelo
huh
i didnt mean it like that
uhh
i was calling this 'bou' person hypocrite because Varese was also really really dumb
Those flags looked really nice but honestly I never really played them in Randoms lol
except one time I took Oregon out on Two Brothers to devstrike a Libertad.
Me too, to torp. They made it sooo easy
who know that to have a really op cruiser
96% of all vyazmas would bow in tank
Yes sub main I underrstand you love ur sub
It's chill car if you go for main gun reload build

vyazma was the dumbest thing
at the very least, free Tier X Christmas rewards 
T9 cruiser with better firepower than most T9 BBs
It was fun to oneshot val with it but it was objectively terrible for balance
Oh yea 100%
Like how sub are abysmal for game balance
But we still have them , so we can still have Vyazma
Experimentals were so damn weird, true
you autowin any fight vs another T9 cruiser because you overmatch their entire ship
Borodino with weird classification and steroids
proves that overmatch is just stupid

Oregon was also really dumb
Georgia with straight fent
"what if we make georgia but just make it like 2x as powerful and give it a burst"
literally
thanks wargaming
I was expecting torp experimentals next ngl
I swear the burst was defective on that car
Cause we had main gun
Then secondaries
Ig subs are basically torp exp
So broken
Smh
thing is you didnt even need burst because oregon at half health was so accurate
lol
I did a mid rush on Two Brothers with Oregon once and devstruck a Libertad in the greatest ever drive-by shooting I've ever pulled off.
I had a few games where I aimed at a stationary BB broadside and did nothing
stationary
Maybe it wasn't on fent for that salvo
I died immediately after, but it was totally worth it.
ah right, I was within 900km of an island so the shells go wherever
Kinda wish they’d bring back experimentals ngl
Experimental subs, could you imagine
I had some fun with Vyazma
Bwahahahaha

I enjoyed it a lot
no experimentals
Was some peak WG moment
put them back in the trash where they belong
Another moment showing how WG can't balance
Vyazma was funny because I could reliably annihilate BBs for once lmao
Experimental sub one; dive time is 25 minutes, fires one torpedo that does 300,000 dmg
who likes my idea
Castilla before nerfs : (
I prefer my supersub idea
COMBAT INSTRUCTION
[ Emergency Stealth Operations ]
Underwater Speed +90%
Underwater Acceleration +50%
HP Heal Over Time +2%
Incoming Damage Reduction (All Sources) -20%
Diving Planes Adjustment TIme -90%
DURATION | 50sec
CHARGE REQUIREMENTS:
- +1% (spot 500 damage)
- +10% (hit a target with a torpedo)
Third wave experimentals just have combat instructions lol
Omg Castilla would have been so cool
God I wish
Just make a Castilla premium that has that
just, busted drugged combat instructions 
Question, have all of y'all even properly read that supersub concept i posted and thought about it
I am still waiting for super Nevsky or Super Groz
You don't have to, just curious
I didn't get to see it tbh
I want a super Zao
Was this before we got ankaraed
This
It's already too fast and torp does too much damage
And too stealthy
gonna save that link
busy crashing out over a test rn
What subject?
Well we know bob hasn't properly read it, also he's too biased i'm afraid
I just read it lol
I guess you don't like my feedback because I do not give in to sub mains
Differentials in this week, everything in the next weeks
Biased as always
Oml
My condolences
The torps are basically balao torps with a smidge extra damage
Yeah too much damage
ngl I try to play every single class in the game so I can learn about it and criticize it properly lol
Also 20s reload
I wanna be bearably good at subs and CVs because, well, they're content.
Wild
2 loaders
Content is content, so I might as well :/
This is like me making a super Kremlin that just removes the cit, gives it cruiser disp and then 20s reload and calling it balanced
Takes 60 seconds for a full rack
thats....different
Maybe actually put some time into balancing them then it'll be worth looking at
oof...fair
😂
Ok let look at the Russian one
I am more lenient to Russian stuff anyway cause that shit is cooler
What if we added another Kutuzov clone but this time the ballistics are dogshit
maybe a t6-7? (no pun intended)
Most people i asked that read that concept and that i explained it to found it to be rather balanced, even those that dislike subs
But a speed boost when the sub is already fast is meh
Reduce the speed on the surface by like 1-2 knots and then reduce the dumb torp speed by 2-3 knots and that one is alg
Keep in mind btw bob, none of them have any rear tubes
that is quite awkward
That's kept in mind
Probably this phallic object
So the US one would be very tricky to play due to her extremely low base battery cap
Well
That's good
Obviously I would only see these sub in-game once there is a global sub speed and conceal nerf. + the ping marker becoming accurate
😃
otherwise nuh uh
Why are Russian things so sexy
Which as i stated is never happening because of previously stated reasons
Even the abysmal class
Just a sub main being biased as usual
🥱
Nah
he is good in all ships classes
And we have a guy named after subs coming to comment
afaik
Of course
You haven't experienced having to slowboat across the map in a tonijn yet have you
It all writes itself
i suck in all classes, 2bf
im just sayin
Because well it's submarine
I have played slow ships
Tonijn goes what, 26 knots in the surface? It's painfully slow
it has to be balansed accross everyone, not just the ones who mains them or not
chopstick
.....what about those who is a CV main? would you lisent to them?
or a DD cruiser or BB main?
Defo not a sub, cv or bb main
bc they are biases, supposely
And...you aren't
No, i'm just experienced enough in subs to know exactly what would completely kill the class

I hate every class equally
And i've made suggestions in the past to improve interaction
Better asw ranges for cruisers and low tier ships
Radar and hydro detection rework
Yeah I forgot about those
hydro spotting at all ranges within hydro, asw increasing range for cruisers. All cruisers getting ship based asw. pings cutting off further away from cruisers and dds, ping markers being more accurate, sub conceal being nerfed and sub speed being nerfed.
All the changes needed
Functional ASW mortars and rockets on the ships that had them would be cool too
Yeah
removing french saturation as well
Making ship based ASW on DDs do actual damage
Yeah no, again, that would turn subs into a dead class
These are just simple changes
They...already do
🤷♂️
If a sub gets caught by a DD it should be like a DD who manages to torp rush a ship
150% dead
Gemerally it is
ship based ASW should do giga damage
Generally*
ASW mortars should definitely be the gimmick of the Commonwealth DD line once we get it
let asw planes do dmg to DDs as well, by that logic 😉
No that's what they did on the Russian game
It floods surface ships
Then they gave them a 90s reload
.....yup
And it ruined the game
still....its a balance, isnt it?

just saying...every class, inc CVs and subs, would deserve to be learned of and be playable
look at the current valp....
it wont die normally
What's wrong with my lovely suggestions
That are objectively correct tbh
and a unicum in it wins, 99/100
They are not
unicums in valps are scary
not again
Tbh any player with a slight working brain in a valp is scary
yup...excally
You know why the thrasher is generally considered to be so bad?
I enjoy this topic 😂
you're both going to be at an impasse/stalemate
bceause it's slow
forever!!!
Bingo
Yes I know
It's funny and entertaining though
plateau of doom
But the speed of it currently is what sub speed should be
If you can dive and get away you shouldn't be fast
If you can dive and get away you should be slower
If you can't dive then you should be fast
Just a reminder 3yrs now that WG has said this will comeback......
i dont know other synonyms for a stalemate
I don't either
Subs are overall already far slower than dd's
k1 archerfish
immovable object meets immovable object
Yeah
I said overall
Im the only wolf tho
that sis needs to be removed if you want to keep saying they're slower
also dolphin diving needs to be removed
+18% is huge
its like having toggle smoke
You know, sure
yeah i am
subs are partly op cuz of homing torps
ok im going back to my fire writing
Sub skills nedd a full rework anyway
but the other half if their ability to control contact
Especially when they go around islands
for free
Lowkey al gorizia is fast
like homing torps have counters
getting dolphin dived has no counter
[-k-]deadh0rse
Let's say drop EPS and keep sub speeds between 30-35 knots
I think most people dont realize how slow subs can be when they make the slightest of turns or ascend/descend, they just look at blanket speed and assume its broken, meanwhile we have bbs ca's and dd's that can outpace them
No it ain't
Yeah it is
Yeah good
Fastest I'll go is 33
But no faster
monkey paw curls
Even that is a stretch because you can still dive
Ok, but accel gets improved
undine goes 33
Accel turns into cruiser accel
no
Agreeable
give it lushun esque handling
Better accell, worse turning
delny handling
I didn't notice it was maintenance
triple turning circles
double?
eu
Bro
Increase turning radius by 10 to 15%
sub "interaction" is so ass
playing whackamole with an RNG marker isn't fun
20% no lower
water is wet
Welcome to any world of game
world of warships
anywho
or worldski of warshipski
half the time the marker gets the sub killed because it happened to spawn where the sub wanted to go instead of where it was
dolphing diving needs to be changed
Subs are actually one of the least rng dependent classes of ship
Yeah
make it so that once a sub runs out of battery they have a 30 second no dive time
Also hydro should detect subs at all depths
and half the time it's so misleading anyone reasonable would miss by 1km or more
radar detect sub on surface but no where else
WG hit that magical point where it's both ass to play and ass to play into
Agreed
like a sub shouldnt be able to extend its battery for a full minute AFTER the battery runs out by diving
also the sub skill that shows when something can detect you gotta go
Naw
and just because I hate them wasting time in ranked if your entire team is dead and you sit at 60m with nothing within 10km of you the game should just ban you
Tbh I think it'd be cool at lower dive ranges you're not allowed to go to max depth
😠
Because that's just extending the time from the mistake you made
no
make sub battery drain in according to depth
Radar detects as normal out to max range on the sufrace
Minimap spots in intervals while at periscope
Hydro detects as normal on surface, minimap spots in intervals out to max range at any depth
No, this should be given to DDs too
and having a skill tell you that is stupid
I'm sorry, there is no purpose in sitting at max depth for the 4 minutes it takes to drain your battery entirely
you're not getting anything from it, not even saving your star
Either given to DDs as well or just removed
Get within 12km radar range? Game tells you
but have it in accordance of last spotted
Ttaro's minimap can do that already
Yeah
yea just make it for ttaros
TTaros alreayd has it anyway
ping marker also
gotta be accurate
It's like blind firing a ship in smoke
Hard no
@radiant olive everyone wants subs nerfed so hard they are unplayable, and nothing less will satisfy them.
I know
We're not getting anywhere unless the ping marker is accurate
That's like the most obnoxious thing
@white shale btw #1488990847289659604
eh some things inherently break the game
Getting inaccurate ping markers
reduce it from 1km to 250m
Tell you what
That's like having a ship shooting in smokes but the tracers start anywhere 1km of the smoke
that's idiotic
Make them more accurate, but drop the ability for rpf to spot subs at periscope
Asia server all time bot bot bot・・・
id take it
since you get rpf flashed when they surface anyways
🤣
Rpf is crazy good vs subs
it kind of did that
remember when HE was misleading when fired in smoke, but AP wasn't?
does anyone have connection issue now?
shit was nuts
I'm not that old of a player
I onyl started in 2017 but started seriously in 2020
or 2019
EU is down
We are not getting anywhere aslong as by diving subs can dodge most interactions with surface ships
yeah ik
thanks
yeah it was really funny
firing AP in smoke was suicide
Diving isn't the end-all be all you imagine
i think dds should have a sonar
So, you're saying surface ships should be able to dive to interact with subs too
But we made it so hydro spots them at all ranges, they have no french saturation, they're slower, less stealthy and the ping marker is more accurate
yes
thats like the hydrophone
except its for underwater
problem solved
that would lowk be hilarious
What's the consumable that shows where surface ships are and doesn't indicate it to them
Why are the bots on the Asia server being left unaddressed?
That's an idiotic balance moment of all time
You laugh but i once had the wreck of a ship i sunk crash on top of me keeping me in place and get me killed
Because they make WG money and WG doesn't care
Question is there a way to get the USS Missouri or has it been taken out of the game?
Hydrophone, and i agree that you should get a noticifaction
its like fast radar
Notification*
except subs really like to take shimakaze style positions
The bot issue on the Asia server being left unaddressed isn't anything new; it's been going on for ages.
Maybe we should make a big list so we can end the sub topic once and for all
Santa Crates only and it's not the original Missouri
I will miss the entertaining chats about it tho
Then don't make the list
@woven marsh but you see i can be reasonable about a lot of things
No it'd be good to have a list
Ok thank you
And then when I read the list I can glaze you a bit then get some anti sub tutoring afterwards
Yeah that doesn't mean subs don't need a glazing donut hole put into them
🔥
They crack down on bots in EU and NA, but is the Asia server just being ignored? This has been a massive, long-standing question of mine for ages
sry bot
Asia is tiny or something
hydro spotting at all ranges within hydro, asw increasing range for cruisers. All cruisers getting ship based asw. pings cutting off further away from cruisers and dds, ping markers being more accurate, sub conceal being nerfed and sub speed being nerfed.
JUst farm the bot and then kill the player
It is annoying yes
But WG won't do anything for a while
huh
no there's just more bots being made there than the other servers
or at least they're more obvious about it
I am really offended that you think all those really bad players on ASIA are actually bots, you try playing the game well on your samsung smart fridge, its not easy, just ask WG they will tell you they have a way to detect bots, in fact they are so good at detecting bots they dont even let you put in a ticket to report bots because they dont exist in the game, thats why you get automated message saying dont worry we will catch them ourselves.
holy moly
top ten RBMK falloffs
To everyone in EU and NA: Once the server federation/linking planned by the management happens, illegal bots from the Asia server will flood into your games and ruin your experience
No I don’t
uh oh
surely cannot be any worse then the actual 36-40% wr player who are real humans.
gn bob
We want the management to finally strengthen bot countermeasures on the Asia server. Even after we submit numerous tickets, they remain inactive and do nothing but close them without taking action.
Gn bbg
Sleep well
Where is the sub main gone I would like to put it to rest
Arden is EU I wouldn’t be surprised if he is not here
I play all server www
with a large enough player pool, it might be possible for WG to match all the bots and
mouthbreathers together and let the rest of us enjoy the game
serv down ?
np
you don't want to know kiddo 
wdym you dont want to know
they are all the same
boise bot
I'm here
Yes
nein
Let's make one final thread
montaa
I'm maybe back today after I get back from work. What dogshit ships should I play (in randoms/ranked?)
I missed you Unc
Play Chios
For a BB it's pretty dogshit
I found it alright
Famous dogshit ship Lenin.
You should play best ship Sevastopol.
Chiiiiiiios
Maybe I'll waste my RB on it I don't have it yet
Another recommendation is best cruiser ingame Puerto Rico.
Although unlike Sevastopol she can work. A bit.
is this the new montana meta

Help
atleast hes got good turret traverse

wows codes anyone
no!!
I'd remove Super Heavy AP and DE to get close quarters combat
faragut
i forgot how good elbing can be against light cruisers....
improved pen angles and good pen
so yeah
cits them no problem when they go flat
just had a mino and austin curse me out cuz i got their broadside. said i was cheating lol
just say Elbing is a small Light cruiser
with absurdly good AP
I will raise you this monty build
Elbing is fun, but ap bursting a mino down from full with the alvaro is peak
I need an alvaro first which I don't
and everytime I want to AP blast a mino in kitakaze in 7km, it's a radar mino everytime
also doable in any other burst dd except johnny
Good morning guys.
Which other dd's have burst?
yeah, no ap
Laffey?
superships
might need to get alvaro next lol
Yamagiri 
Yamagiri too
1v1 t9 brawl
Yeah Laffey is one.
The soviet one
amongus
Hey xianyun.
Zorkiy
hi aaa2
Hey _Kowijk.
wat
We listed it first
Where
I forgot how good legmod Moskva dispersion was
hi
what should i play in the 1v1 brawl
What tier is it?
Halland
9
Mogador
Benham
i have
No
i dont think i have either of theose
Emilio?
nope
Kita
Play Udaloi
why
Lots of torpedoes
Udaloi very nice car
Tashkent lighthouse
it's 1v1 brawls rn?
yea
Apparently
eh
T10 brawls?
if it's t10 then I wont
Baka
Then you play Tsurugi
Test ship allowed in brawl?!
I suppose you can be boring and play Musashi
would love to see a ragnar and elbing mix line put in game.......would make for some interesting dd play
ragnar and elbing mix
That sounds vaguely overpowered
yss
Trust me
I don't
You should
I only trust @void relic
what about me
Smh.
I trust you as much as I trust a normal internet friend
what does tha tmean
They don’t
It's a measure of how much I trust you
they don't trust you as much
im going to try no commander mogador
OH MY FUCKING GOD I HAVE TO PLAY AGAINST SUZUYA
let's be honset, bribing has no limits to accomplishing things
If someone buy you 100 Santa container. Are you absolutely loyal lol?
Yes

maybe
im going to
what's the chanes the suzuya player is all whale no skill

Just yolo them before they can yolo you
no CE huh
this jit has rpf
and SE
Hey average_atlanta_enjoyer.
Watch them delete you with mbrb
Hey mehfia.
I'm actually surprised it's not just oops all Valps
hey andrea

All whale, no skill
Kiting in a brawl
i just let him kill me
What a gamer
True he shouldnt kite
Golden ship players are a different breed
He should just push bow in into french dd
Exactly
Prekite is always the most optimal brawl strat preety much
no concealment mod too?
One question guys.
yea
Okay, now I must go shower
0 module 0 commander
I be back later
pure stock?
shower in he
yes
You dont have to actually
it's brawls anyway so
Just look at me for the past 3 weeks
go ham I guess
If in Randoms there is the reload buff with all 3 Illinois would become sort of Annapolis if not wrong?
I mean the One that later you need to cap the central A point for win.

You can roll arms race and get some reload buffs but they are not insanely powerful
Insert Temper Temper reference
Back to the usual How-To, I really want to feature this ship, but since its a limited release, and considering how long it took for me to make a video, I just have to whale it.
Thanks to all Patrons for making this video happen ))
Don't forget to turn on Notifications!
Discord: https://discord.gg/torpedobeat
F...
how do i get this ship?
dockyard
Go back in time
did you not watch the video
Well dont watch it smh
he mentions paying for dockyard
BRUH!
wait
the guy has poomern
do you not pay attention
this might be doable

potato quality meanwhile
That aint broken
potato calls it mediocre 🤣
Is it good Absolutely but it sure as hell aint broken
Yes but not because of the dcp
potato is european
wtf
Potato beeing potato
the base accuracy is fucking good, and the F key gives it better reload while reducing all cooldown consumables
Yep.
Yeah that makes it incredibly good but 20 sec dmg control aint broken just good
since not even I as an Asian can consider his accent as EU
if you want to use it as a guide, there's the missouri video
which is nearly 10 years old
it's pre 2018 YT
Yeah there is only Missouri and Wisconsin video of the Iowa-Class.
Ehh it aint bad considering how little change with time for bbs
What if you never heard his voice
based
One question guys.
audio transcript, he loves to mention KotS lmao
and 07
Youtube please remove all WoWs related content from my recommended
Yuro vids can stay
Those especially have to go
i got iowa guys
I would rather watch SLM
why am I taking the bait from a PvE player
A part USS Ohio BB-68 is also worth get USS Hull DD-945?
There is one wows thing that can stay
Or no?
the contrarian mind never ceases to amaze
I'm just curious regarding Hull.
three 203mm with des moines pen angles
super heal too
you kind just never die at all
14.1 aint that stealthy gng
at least, if you play well
Its kinda Sherman but less dam
I see and thanks mehfia.
me when San Martín 
you're a kite tank basically, like the french but more or less make use of heals to make up for much worse mobility
Understood.
4m potential damage
Hey _Korwijk.
the 203s are still nice in some occasions over the sherman guns
though sherman has some nice damage farming
I just typed "bigger dpm" but I misinput one to the side from B
Anyway bigger number more better
less dam/age makes sense too
Unsupervised 30mm plated cruiser pops up at 13km

Hinden turns out after being spotted, leaves with 30k less hp before he completes the turn
when the DD has 203s
Hull AP



