game-discussion

[lucid wagon]

most of the time

[steel pier]

it lost rights to be called ship

Valpappe has no rights

[honest silo]

It's still a ship and you can't nerf it to death.

[pliant relic]

Floating bunker

[eager pumice]

like your biggest utility to your team is not damage output, it's to make people waste obscene amounts of time on you

[steel pier]

yes, you should do

[honest silo]

Unless you want to create more complaines because it's nerfed to death.

[lucid wagon]

Nelson i use most of my heals

[steel pier]

nerff it to the oceanfloor

[lucid wagon]

because you take so much damage in Nelson

giant ass nose

[steel pier]

make ppl regret spending on it

[pliant relic]

mm tru

esp fire damage

[lucid wagon]

that too

i honestly like when i get HE farm because it give me IRPR and you can heal it all back

i hate when they use ap tho

[pulsar trout]

https://tenor.com/view/blackcat-gif-8560392459073397502

Where kitakami….

[lucid wagon]

and its also cool to get dreadnought like every game in Nelson

[pliant relic]

The 2 mil potential damage getting you more heals?

[lucid wagon]

yes

if you get 2m potential you get extra heal

and another you can easily get with cunningham

[pliant relic]

mm

[lucid wagon]

for total of 6 heal

[lusty lagoon]

can nelson even use all of that

[lucid wagon]

yea

you take a lot of damage as Nelson

[lusty lagoon]

it takes a ton of overmatch dmg

which a lot are cits

[lucid wagon]

not necessarily

i think usually every 1/5 shot i get hit with in Nelson through nose

[honest silo]

Honestly that's a bad idea.

[lucid wagon]

will be a cit

i mean that IS a lot

[honest silo]

And not a good way with all honesty.

[lucid wagon]

but its workable

[lusty lagoon]

that's a lot

[vague cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-avengers-endgame-gone-reduced-to-atoms-gif-26539274

[lusty lagoon]

and u can't really heal all of that back

[lucid wagon]

even without cits you still take a ton of pen damage

[pliant relic]

some video review said to angle outwards and use the rear and belt but idk

[lucid wagon]

because youra rmor dogshit either way all around

[pliant relic]

pain to turn around all the time

[steel pier]

no. its punishment, a fully justified punishment. Ytbers call her her unplayable after this no saying nerff she is abt to receive? ohhhhh, what we should do to her instead, they would all sell theirs and i would celebrate this day to come. and idc, how Valpappe players would react, they choose to play this ship and ruin my rounds, then we should choose to ruin their ship

[honest silo]

It's still not a good way.

And not really a way to fix things.

[steel pier]

if we talk fixing. this ship shouldnt have ever been introduced in the first place. but this is too late

[honest silo]

It would be fixed, but not by begin nerfed to death or making the players regret it, because that's a stupid way with all honesty.

[steel pier]

it seems, it only works, if you stomp ppl on the feet

and in this case, its to make them regret buying Valpappe

[honest silo]

It's not the way again.

[steel pier]

it is

in our world, stomping ppl on the feet is sometimes the only way to make them realize

[honest silo]

It's not you need to think in another way that is more not evil at all.

[steel pier]

Valpappe is pure evil and we counter her with being evil to it then

not my problem, i dont own this nuisance and never will do so

i even sold Los Andersherum and stopped Schlöürffen Line after Zeiten

[honest silo]

Ok, but that's still not a way to fix things with all honesty.

[steel pier]

the more you repeat "this is not the way" the more i will press on, how evil and nuisance Valpappe is

[honest silo]

Ok, but tell with all honesty.

[steel pier]

let me ask you, you own this ship?

[honest silo]

What type of fix is even that? For me it's not a fix, but it's more like punching something because I just hate it and it shouldn't exist.

[steel pier]

you aware of its insane, unfair disgusting sec spam?

[lusty lagoon]

he does own the ship but he doesn't like it at all

[steel pier]

if you are, you know, we have to do smthn abt it

[lusty lagoon]

also like

why do u hate valpepe so much compared to sibir

i never saw u complain about sibir

[eager pumice]

Made it to Silver 6 just in time to get a bot DD and CA on my team

[lusty lagoon]

sibir is pretty much just as annoying but with better dmg dealing capabilities

[honest silo]

Yes it's insane, but no disguisting.

[eager pumice]

ha
can't lose rank

[lusty lagoon]

valp isn't that bad if u get into a position that u can farm it for free

[steel pier]

then you dont have this ship yourself and dont witness it regularily enough

[lusty lagoon]

big dmg numbers feels kinda good

[honest silo]

I'm just not a fan, but I enjoy her a bit more from last time with all honesty MrOrangeJuice.

[honest silo]

I have the ship.

[honest silo]

I agree.

[steel pier]

who cares, if its an enemy, its my teammate and this alone is a crime in my mm

and every time, this nuisance is sitting directly behind me, whereever i go and whatever ship i play

[honest silo]

And sorry for the ping MrOrangeJuice.

[lusty lagoon]

no prob

i never really mind pings

[honest silo]

Alright.

But yeah I changed a bit my opinion of Valparaiso from the last time I used her MrOrangeJuice.

[steel pier]

im bored, suggest me a VII to play

[lusty lagoon]

lemme think

scheer

[mint bluff]

yea its underpowered and it needs to be buffed.

[steel pier]

sounds good

[honest silo]

I'm close to finish another Dockyard mission and then I need to do the one with Aircraft Carrier.

[steel pier]

https://giphy.com/gifs/no-bugs-bunny-fXnRObM8Q0RkOmR5nf

Valpappe being underpowered is the most bait hottake ever done

[steel pier]

got the fake Tokyo Express, should be fun

pure 10 min of DD farming

[radiant olive]

I stopped playing valparaiso because of how boring it got

[steel pier]

good decision

everyone should not play it

[radiant olive]

Good news

[lusty lagoon]

valp gets boring quickly

very quickly

it's just so oppressive that there's really no gameplay at all

[radiant olive]

I've decided to make EU and ASIA accounts, grind to salmon and play nothing but salmon on those servers

[steel pier]

its an AFK one man show

[radiant olive]

And perhaps balao

[steel pier]

and thus boring

[honest silo]

I agree on that.

[wheat cobalt]

Valpa is so peak

[radiant olive]

There's a few things you can do to counter a valparaiso. Sadly these are mostly beyond the capabilities of your average wows player.

Kite it to death
Overmatch it
Shotgun torp it

[lucid wagon]

it is just super boring yea

[lucid wagon]

kite it to death lol

[wheat cobalt]

I wish Sevastopol had combat instructions that reduced consuamble reload

2m heal CD is just oof

[honest silo]

Hey Polish.

Hey Arden.

[lucid wagon]

kiting valparaiso is good if not for fact your positioning gets fucking ruin

[radiant olive]

I have done so on several occasions

[wheat cobalt]

alo

[lucid wagon]

not saying its impossible

its obviously best strategy

[radiant olive]

Better that than being dead

[lucid wagon]

but it messes up everything usually

[steel pier]

next

[honest silo]

Bismarck.

[steel pier]

give Sewastopol the Valpappe heal and vice versa

[radiant olive]

Also, daily reminder to put a ram flag on literally everything

[steel pier]

no thanks

[hybrid whale]

Arden how hard would you say grinding 4 mil coal would be

[radiant olive]

Ram flags are 12k a pop my dude

[steel pier]

i dont need it

[radiant olive]

Dunno, i don't quite pay attention to coal anymore

[steel pier]

i wont ram in Admiral Scheer

if i can play at distance

[radiant olive]

Never say never

[hybrid whale]

Actually let me just do the math

[steel pier]

my 9km defence secondary are good to keep DDs at medium range

[radiant olive]

What about a sub doing a last ditch damage attempt

[honest silo]

True.

[hybrid whale]

Asuming no outside influence in coal income and absolute worst luck about 11 years if only counting dayly crated

[lucid wagon]

i actually lost clan battle because of this lol

one time i forget it on massachusett

i get ram

[radiant olive]

What about average?

[steel pier]

no ai sub enemies in my mode

[radiant olive]

Fair enough

Pve is a different beastie

[steel pier]

even, if they one day add enemy submarines to Ops, i use hydro and am smart enough to actually use ASW

[woven marsh]

67 67

[hybrid whale]

Dont have the patience to do that math but asuming both brawl max out put and decent luck plus sequential bundles prop closer to 4 or 5 years

[stoic idol]

NICE

[woven marsh]

YEAH

[lucid wagon]

lol i apparently have destruction ratio of nearly three on sun yat sen apparently?

[stoic idol]

how much coal you have? lol

[lusty lagoon]

u got tarigo?

[steel pier]

nope

[woven marsh]

Last I checked 760k

[lucid wagon]

Sun Yat Sen Balance

[rare schooner]

Randoms

BOBTHEBALL's Sun Yat-Sen (ASIA)

Battles: 9
Wins: 100.00% (9/0/0)
Survival: 77.78% (7/2)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 928
Damage: 148 328
Kills: 2.33
Aircraft: 3.44
Spotted: 0.44
Scouting: 23 440
Potential: 1 551 194

Records

Base EXP: 2 580
Damage: 231 398
Kills: 4
Aircraft: 11
Spotted: 1
Scouting: 49 661
Potential: 2 166 133

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (19/4/42.05%)
Secondaries: (0/0/17.33%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (1/1/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[woven marsh]

Doesn't show

hmm

[wheat cobalt]

sus yat sen

[woven marsh]

Guess I have to go in-game

[lusty lagoon]

hmm

toulon?

[wheat cobalt]

god

[steel pier]

[wheat cobalt]

toulon

[honest silo]

Hey ObiphanKenobi.

[wheat cobalt]

🥀

abysmal ship

[lusty lagoon]

do it

[lucid wagon]

a Slava main does not deserve to criticize

any ship

[steel pier]

cant be any worse, then encountering Valpappe in my team, as Montpelier

[wheat cobalt]

Valpa clears ops for you

gg

[steel pier]

i want to do my own dmg, thanks very much

and fck Valpappe

[hybrid whale]

question what sixth slot module should somme have

[wheat cobalt]

gun reload

[lucid wagon]

i am best kiberpankov player totally

[wheat cobalt]

crazy work

[lucid wagon]

another hard day of kill stealing

in kiberpankov

[radiant olive]

@hybrid whale assuming max clan bonuses, on aberage you earn 626,340 coal per year

[wheat cobalt]

I played it once too

it was fine

[lucid wagon]

yeah but you didnt get kraken

like me

so youre bad

[wheat cobalt]

true

[hybrid whale]

so 7 years

[radiant olive]

That's only crates though

[hybrid whale]

yeah so prop closer to like 5 if season pass and brawl is included

[lucid wagon]

why the fuck is my kongo destruction ratio 5

[wheat cobalt]

kongo bongo

[woven marsh]

@lucid wagon

10.5

[rare schooner]

Randoms

Arden\_Elenduil's Giulio Cesare (NA)

Battles: 255
Wins: 74.12% (189/66/0)
Survival: 67.84% (173/82)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 230
Damage: 84 715
Kills: 2.34
Aircraft: 1.72
Spotted: 0.18
Scouting: 8 628
Potential: 583 311

Records

Base EXP: 2 420
Damage: 208 896
Kills: 7
Aircraft: 39
Spotted: 3
Scouting: 81 136
Potential: 1 787 864

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (556/7/38.90%)
Secondaries: (16/1/17.55%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (4/1/-)
Rams: (6/1/-)

[lucid wagon]

bro 😭

[woven marsh]

I ain't playing any more games

100% WR above like 2 games is impressive

[wheat cobalt]

son

[lucid wagon]

two of the greatest tier 8 in this game

[eager pumice]

if we don't rush mid are we really Asian WoWs

[wheat cobalt]

yo

Anhaltus is peak

[rare schooner]

Randoms

PolishFemboy\_prpr's Anhalt (EU)

Battles: 33
Wins: 57.58% (19/14/0)
Survival: 60.61% (20/13)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 397
Damage: 101 400
Kills: 1.33
Aircraft: 3.97
Spotted: 0.24
Scouting: 18 784
Potential: 1 269 232

Records

Base EXP: 2 103
Damage: 165 855
Kills: 3
Aircraft: 21
Spotted: 3
Scouting: 59 444
Potential: 2 411 703

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (32/3/36.99%)
Secondaries: (0/0/14.98%)
Torpedoes: (1/1/13.33%)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (4/1/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[lucid wagon]

which is why i have 0 wr

[wheat cobalt]

rah

57% so peak

[lucid wagon]

101k avg damage

dang you shit

[wheat cobalt]

man

[lucid wagon]

i have proof i have 800k avg damage

[steel pier]

interesting, Toulon has 30,5cm

[lucid wagon]

in anhalt

[rare schooner]

Randoms

PolishFemboy\_prpr's Picardie (EU)

Battles: 14
Wins: 71.43% (10/4/0)
Survival: 64.29% (9/5)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 579
Damage: 113 023
Kills: 0.93
Aircraft: 5.71
Spotted: 0.29
Scouting: 18 014
Potential: 1 321 745

Records

Base EXP: 2 473
Damage: 187 690
Kills: 2
Aircraft: 17
Spotted: 2
Scouting: 58 907
Potential: 2 525 400

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (10/2/37.16%)
Secondaries: (0/0/10.95%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (2/1/-)
Rams: (0/0/-)

[wheat cobalt]

all the best cars

[pliant relic]

do you also have one battle in anhalt

[lucid wagon]

i have 3

with 0 win

[pliant relic]

ouef

[lucid wagon]

Ochakov?

[wheat cobalt]

uhh

played it in ranked only iirc

same goes for toulon

toulon was just abysmal

ochakov was fine-ish

[lucid wagon]

LOL

MY HAWKE

IS SO BAD

GREATEST HAWKE PLAYER

never play during typhoon 😭

[wheat cobalt]

insane

[woven marsh]

New car I won't play

[rare schooner]

Randoms

PolishFemboy\_prpr's Sevastopol (EU)

Battles: 167
Wins: 54.49% (91/76/0)
Survival: 54.49% (91/76)

Averages

Base EXP: 1 391
Damage: 109 545
Kills: 1.21
Aircraft: 3.46
Spotted: 0.34
Scouting: 32 822
Potential: 1 745 473

Records

Base EXP: 2 574
Damage: 289 714
Kills: 5
Aircraft: 39
Spotted: 3
Scouting: 157 164
Potential: 4 916 150

Armaments (Kills/Record/Accuracy)

Main Battery: (183/5/56.90%)
Secondaries: (0/0/13.10%)
Torpedoes: (0/0/-)
Depth Charges: (0/0/-)
Aircraft: (13/1/-)
Rams: (1/1/-)

[wheat cobalt]

the greatest torture

I have like

[lucid wagon]

what the hell??

[wheat cobalt]

40% solo

on this car

[lucid wagon]

167 game???

[wheat cobalt]

it doesn't influence games at all

it just exists as a punching bag

[lucid wagon]

bro stop playing Sevastopol is so shit 😭

[wheat cobalt]

I know

[lucid wagon]

play hector like me : 3

[wheat cobalt]

I don't have it

[lucid wagon]

lame.

[wheat cobalt]

soz

[grizzled relic]

Not nearly as bad as my Wisconsin stats when i first got her and was really really bad

[wheat cobalt]

I have lolbert

and uhhh

renault

[lucid wagon]

what is your chateurenault stat

mine are awful

[wheat cobalt]

I played it once

kek

[lucid wagon]

because the ship is fucking unusable

[lucid wagon]

she so bad

[grizzled relic]

He likes torturing himself

[wheat cobalt]

1 battle

rah

[lucid wagon]

higher then my best dmg in it

by 2k

over 3 game

Chateurenault is just truly awful.

[wheat cobalt]

I got to run over Petro and Vincent

[honest silo]

It's the main armament for Large Cruiser.

[lucid wagon]

they kept kiting away from me.

torpedoes do like 2 damage lol

[wheat cobalt]

also avg planes 27

bomboclat

I also have hull

ohio

uhh

slava obv

[steel pier]

american only classification. doubt french would have used this, if this ship was ever built

[honest silo]

It wasn't built, by usually 305mm main gun is what Large Cruiser ue.

[pulsar trout]

I smell cope

[wheat cobalt]

oh ye

Illinois

I have that thing

[pulsar trout]

Omg hi red

[wheat cobalt]

halo

surely Sicilia is a great choice

clue

[edgy marten]

Better than Sevastopoop

[wheat cobalt]

well duh

Sevas is the worst RB ship

[honest silo]

Hey.

[steel pier]

~~i dunno where. context not given. and also, its up to the country, who built a ship to classify it and i never seen french have anything as "large cruiser" ~~

[wheat cobalt]

actually might compete with Ocean next patch

[pulsar trout]

Keep malding

[edgy marten]

Maybe they'll give Sevastopoop short fuze

one day

[lucid wagon]

bro

[honest silo]

Hey Hot_Potato_Gruel.

[lucid wagon]

sevastopol no longer worse RB ship

it is now chateurenault

literally 0 use for it

[wheat cobalt]

it has shorter fuse

like petrol

and stalin

[lucid wagon]

at least the Sevastopol have big funs to fuck over CL cruiser

[edgy marten]

huh

[lucid wagon]

the Chateurenault is just dogshit

[pulsar trout]

Is that the la plapa but french

[steel pier]

i dont. i keep stating whats given

[lusty lagoon]

it’s pretty decent tho

[wheat cobalt]

what is it with commies having 0.022 instead of 0.033

[pulsar trout]

Womp womp

[lusty lagoon]

esp in ranked

[lucid wagon]

how is chaterenault decent

[lusty lagoon]

in ranked it can pull stupid yolo moves

[lucid wagon]

in no way is it 'decent'

i am talking about random battle

[pulsar trout]

Fun

[steel pier]

talking to an american brick wall here are we. interesting

[pulsar trout]

https://tenor.com/view/happycadogt-ironing-flattening-ironed-smooth-gif-7658576796995644766

[lusty lagoon]

surely in randoms it’s not that bad right

idk

[edgy marten]

Chatty Renault is a torpedoboat

[serene chasm]

Why don’t we add an Iowa with a nuclear…

[edgy marten]

That alone makes it hot garbage

[serene chasm]

Reactor

[honest silo]

I have USS Tulsa CA-129!

[lucid wagon]

renault cannot defend itself really

it is absolutely fucking massive

[honest silo]

hey miles long time no see.

[lucid wagon]

and its torpedoes do like 9 damage if they're 12km+

[steel pier]

for a "BC" (lack of french wording) 3 kills are not bad, but it could be better, her reload is hampering her

[serene chasm]

Hi

[lucid wagon]

so you are just awful.

[pulsar trout]

Keep coping

[wheat cobalt]

it mainly shines when you can run around the corner into someone
bc its literally impossible to stop 30k HP french saturation car with insane torp angles

before it kills you

other than that

play Cassardus

[lucid wagon]

• take note that it requires someone to be extremely idiot

LOL

[wheat cobalt]

Cassardus my beloved

[lucid wagon]

"it mainly shines when others are idiot" (all torpboats btw)

[wheat cobalt]

correct

torpboats fighting an uphill battle

[edgy marten]

Don't worry

[wheat cobalt]

24/7

[lucid wagon]

yea

[pulsar trout]

Sometimes we just get silly

[edgy marten]

Peredevoy will change the paradigm forever

!!

[lucid wagon]

what does paradigm mean

[wheat cobalt]

I can't elaborate on that

[honest silo]

How are you all?

[pulsar trout]

It’s a word talking about the shape of things

Like a model for things

[edgy marten]

Peredevoy is a POWERFUL Kiev hull

With armor and HRT for rushing

[honest silo]

What ship is Peredevoy?

[honest silo]

Oh, when it was released?

[wheat cobalt]

it wasn't

it's in testing

[honest silo]

Oh, ok thanks Polish.

[wheat cobalt]

well

it will enter live testing next patch

[edgy marten]

And it will be so good

...surely

[lucid wagon]

what about Fuyutsuki

[honest silo]

I see.

[lucid wagon]

and Conte Verde

[radiant olive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/airplane-i-am-serious-surely-you-cant-be-3oEjHLzm4BCF8zfPy0

[wheat cobalt]

if I speak

big trouble

[edgy marten]

Another comprehensive thing

[spring verge]

Greetings

https://tenor.com/view/raora-holo-live-gif-17999560441461268023

[honest silo]

Hey BloodEarth.

[edgy marten]

Officially the slowest DD at T10

Now that Sherman has speedboost

[steel pier]

[lucid wagon]

entirely not needed btw

[steel pier]

but interesting. 1926 french Bc Project

[hexed escarp]

All these ships in testing, but no news about Yari 🥀

[lucid wagon]

• we have given new method for F. Sherman players to get themself killed faster

[steel pier]

if only her guns reload better

[lucid wagon]

is what wow should have said

[spring verge]

And another month.

[open yarrow]

Can I hire her to stop staring?

[lucid wagon]

because ALL FUCKING F SHERMAN PLAYERS ARE BAD

[spring verge]

No.

[lucid wagon]

THEYRE ALL B AD.

[pulsar trout]

Wanna talk powerful ships

Z-44

[steel pier]

+10 years

[open yarrow]

https://tenor.com/view/rrane-battal-rrane-battal-kızgın-battal-kızgın-gif-25355985

[radiant olive]

Blood, what time scale are we on at this point?

[edgy marten]

Z44 is a torpedoboat

All torpedoboats are automatically trash

[pulsar trout]

Z-44 is the best ship in wows what do you mean

[steel pier]

what abt ppl, who's Forrest Sherman sits and collects dust in port?

[spring verge]

I’d say wait is gonna end at…. 2077

[wheat cobalt]

https://tenor.com/tXxWl3Ev4q4.gif

nuke

[lucid wagon]

THEY DO NOT PLAY IT SO THEY DO NOT COUNT.

[lucid wagon]

Tachyon

[wheat cobalt]

yes

best horse

[edgy marten]

Forget Yari

Unie

[radiant olive]

https://giphy.com/gifs/cyberpunkgame-cyberpunk-cyberpunk2077-2077-fA7rLtaJDIWEzU57CT

[lucid wagon]

Which Agnes do you love

[edgy marten]

where Unie

[steel pier]

i have a Forrest Sherman sitting in port and collecting dust

[open yarrow]

Sherman players are bad when there is no spotting

[edgy marten]

It came and then it disappeared

[hexed escarp]

You mean 2027

[wheat cobalt]

Unie gaming

[steel pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1491568533010780412/1491571405916213288/ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[pulsar trout]

Sherman players are bad when there is spotting

[lucid wagon]

too bad all F. Sherman players do this thing called "I will smoke up infront of everyone so nobody can spot and then I bitch about no spotting. Then i either get radar and die or get hit by torpedo because I do not move in smoke"

every F. Sherman player.

[vague cedar]

Ain't no way it's 2027 🥀

[spring verge]

No, I mean 2077

[steel pier]

@lusty lagoon now, Toulon is done, next round

[radiant olive]

at least i got the reference

[wheat cobalt]

flandre secondary spec

rah

[pulsar trout]

Light Cruiser Toulon

[austere mango]

Yari release will be at the same time Winds of Winter is published, or 2077 - What ever comes first.

[steel pier]

did i hear some? i heard a mouse piep

[spring verge]

We’d probably get Ocean rebuff than having yari in 2027

[wheat cobalt]

hunter left4dead

[spring verge]

Not cool come on

[steel pier]

Tovarish Tuan, how abt some more mango and sage.

[spring verge]

What did the cat do

[pulsar trout]

He’s in jail

[steel pier]

poor catto never at fault

[vague cedar]

Instruction unclear - now Ocean is only playable in the "Ocean" map

[pulsar trout]

For liking French ships

[vague cedar]

🥀

[spring verge]

https://tenor.com/view/raikkonen-kimi-formula-formula1-race-gif-22611750

[vague cedar]

[steel pier]

dw, i dont like Toulon much

[wheat cobalt]

I like Rous

epic car

from dockyard

[vague cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/kimi-raikkonen-raikkonen-f1-formula1-deal-with-it-gif-13822746

[steel pier]

im more a richelieu enjoyer

[spring verge]

I like Bougainville

[austere mango]

Cats are arseholes by nature. The only reason they accept us humans, is because we haven't been stupid enough to invent catfood tin cans that cats can open on their own.
But knowing humanity, we will one day, and that will spell the end for the human race.
All bow to our feline overlords...

[wheat cobalt]

imo Repu line was bad

until you got Repu

[edgy marten]

Lyon was good

[spring verge]

Bougainville totally good car

[vague cedar]

Rous has been my go-to car when it comes to dealing with Valpa

[steel pier]

humans are way more bad, cats are chill, they are adorable and havent invented nukes to wipe out all life on earth yet

[eager pumice]

honestly it's funnier with context
like can someone explain what's going on here

[lucid wagon]

and then tragically find out Republique is bad in 2026

[pulsar trout]

Funnily enough I’m playing Rous rn

[wheat cobalt]

nuh uh

Repu epic car

[eager pumice]

A cap is all my dead teammates btw

[pulsar trout]

You’re playing world of tanks

[lucid wagon]

what is asia even about

[eager pumice]

straight into mid for no reason
the Asian way

[wheat cobalt]

I should get legomod for Repu

[pulsar trout]

Hope this helps

[eager pumice]

RUSH
MID

[hybrid whale]

how good is this for ops

[ancient monolith]

on weekend, you play sibir like a yamato

[spring verge]

Get attacked by Bubi

[ancient monolith]

cause nobody wants to play

[vague cedar]

Nah, Mid is almost always completely empty in the first few min of the match

[wheat cobalt]

we love spam guns

[steel pier]

voidcat
-i summon foxxy-

[vague cedar]

From my experience, that is

[open yarrow]

not me tho

[steel pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1494721233135337482/babymetal-headbang-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[open yarrow]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1463427839729733674/1489431188262223892/black-cat-void-cat-ezgif.com-added-text.gif

[steel pier]

all hail to voidcats

[open yarrow]

Yes

[wheat cobalt]

bro

I have range mod + aft sherman in my team

[edgy marten]

Maybe they're just that powerful of a gamer

[austere mango]

"You want to play botes ?? Fuck you... "

[edgy marten]

Openwater rather than smogfarming Sherman

[steel pier]

be glad, voidcat hinders you from gambling.

thats a win win

[edgy marten]

and they don't have Hull

so they make do with Sherman

😔

[pulsar trout]

https://tenor.com/view/hamster-grabbed-grab-hand-dark-gif-9326241848929200928

[steel pier]

and dont forget, to give potassium to your voidcat

[honest silo]

I have a hamster at home.

[cold geyser]

what

[open yarrow]

Almost there

[hybrid whale]

peak way of making money

[open yarrow]

False

You put on modules

[ancient monolith]

never sell a premium

[open yarrow]

so you lose money

[steel pier]

wrong

[ancient monolith]

well if it's a cv premium, you can sell

sell all the cvs

[edgy marten]

[hybrid whale]

this picture aint new nor mine

[livid bridge]

I can recognize my oc anytime

[hybrid whale]

ofc you can

[livid bridge]

When ability to sell t10 prems

😔

[edgy marten]

There are no T10 prems

[vague cedar]

When Yari gets released

🥀

[edgy marten]

There's no such thing as Yari

[wheat cobalt]

mm

164k dmg

wish I had DDs

[honest silo]

Time to try Tulsa.

[wheat cobalt]

sadly I had halland that killed himself on split torps

and sherman with aft + range mod

truly

[livid bridge]

Peak sherman pog

[wheat cobalt]

I'm glad

I had these ships

in my team

[edgy marten]

Understandable reaction to playing Halland

[wheat cobalt]

fr

car so bad you just int to go next

[edgy marten]

Sevastopoop even has a powerful speedboost to facilitate that

[wheat cobalt]

frfr

[pulsar trout]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/723543741020766222/1495393310020341880/IMG_9626.gif

[wheat cobalt]

man

[cold geyser]

@viral fjord @viral fjord @viral fjord

[wheat cobalt]

if only we had a sevatopol but as a bb

it could even have normal superheal

and bigger guns

[honest silo]

Tbh guys.

I already like a lot Tulsa!

[edgy marten]

What does Sevastopoop need

To be a good ship

[wheat cobalt]

could even be british

[edgy marten]

(in your opinion)

[wheat cobalt]

and for steel

[wheat cobalt]

preferably removed form the game

[vague cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/gold-paper-coach-meme-gif-1598633554401345489

[edgy marten]

😔

[wheat cobalt]

normal dcp would be a start

[radiant olive]

Why does this keep happening

[hybrid whale]

Witchcraft

[austere mango]

Stop playing wows with your mother 😄

[edgy marten]

Sub gamer can't handle getting complimented?

Damn

[hybrid whale]

I find that most subs cant handle compliments

[honest silo]

Hey AALG.

[austere mango]

Ohoi Andrea

[radiant olive]

also 50k spotting damage is hard

[austere mango]

They prefer being spoken harshly to...

[vague cedar]

It's definitely hard... for a certain "someone"

[lusty lagoon]

what about a german dd

[lusty lagoon]

no way how did u do that

[vague cedar]

Submarine gameplay 101

Or just bring any radar ship into Ops and hope it drops Cherry Blossom

[lusty lagoon]

no it's impossible

[vague cedar]

[lusty lagoon]

ur not supposed to get over 50k spotting dmg

[vague cedar]

I beg your pardon?

[honest silo]

Still need to get used to Tulsa, but not bad I guess?

[vague cedar]

Not bad, but can be better

[honest silo]

True, I just bought her some minute ago.

But I enjoy already her a lot.

[lusty lagoon]

bro i wasn't being serious

[vague cedar]

Where's the "/s"?

🥀

[lusty lagoon]

i don't do /s

🥀

yall gotta detect it urselves

[pliant relic]

“grok, is this sarcasm?”

[cold geyser]

bro ackin like he dont know me

shits crazy

i'll never forgive you

[pliant relic]

nani

[lusty lagoon]

what

[cold geyser]

he knows who he is

[lusty lagoon]

what

[cold geyser]

what what?

[vague cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1466889497705709579/1502728978543284404/14.gif

[digital locust]

Just play valpa

Which is an answer to a surprising number of wows related questions

[radiant olive]

Just like a sub

[edgy marten]

Play CVs

[cold geyser]

im a sub 👉 👈

[edgy marten]

what

[cold geyser]

like

K-1 i think

[edgy marten]

I dunno

Call emergency services if you believe you've turned into a boat

[cold geyser]

i would like to see the ramifications of turning into a 1500 ton sub in the middle of my apartment

[mental palm]

I guess brandon identifies as a boat

[austere mango]

And call WG Balance dept, if you've turned into an OP boat...

[cold geyser]

oh wait i'm already a 1500 ton sub 👉 👈

pyrocynical

anyway im gonna go get some cereal

[livid bridge]

Ig i would have to get out of bed

Cat does poke

[austere mango]

"You haul 1500 tons and what do you get... Another day older and deeper in debt..."

[livid bridge]

"Gib food human"

[austere mango]

".. Or I will sheed fur all over the clothes next to me.... Oh wait, I'll do that anyways out of spite...

[vague cedar]

"What are you looking at me for?
Get your ass up and fetch me food-"

[livid bridge]

Its just cat hair who cares about that

[vague cedar]

[livid bridge]

Shleepy

[ancient monolith]

valpa = 42

[honest silo]

Hey Nayterii.

Hey nyanko.

[light harbor]

The missile is tired

[livid bridge]

Hello

[ancient monolith]

you are having a good time destroying a sniffen, then you look around and your team is almost dead 😄

fabulous

[steel pier]

which german DD. is there even a VII prem?

[tawdry turret]

z39?

[steel pier]

i dunno, i forgor

i have successfully managed to totally ignore german DDs somewhat, after Scout Cruiser Elbing was researched

[pulsar trout]

I’m shleepy

But I want a Cuban…

[livid bridge]

T8 german DD z-39

[obsidian oriole]

Hmmm. Oh, that's interesting

[livid bridge]

What is it Mr Jetro

[steel pier]

anyways, i dont own Z39

[obsidian oriole]

Chapter 7 of the dockyard has an achievement mission

[livid bridge]

I'm on chapter 2

[obsidian oriole]

Not that interested in ZH-1?

[lusty lagoon]

oh just pick any lol

maybe maass

[obsidian oriole]

There's only 1 German T7 premium destroyer

[vague cedar]

...wait what

[lusty lagoon]

my wheel of names keep picking weird boats

[vague cedar]

[severe plank]

seems simple enough

[tawdry turret]

just dev strike things i guess

[severe plank]

bringing my I-56 in ops so I get ray, major cont and sea star all in one game

[lusty lagoon]

never seen an achievement mission before

[vague cedar]

...Ah, right
I thought it's "doing this mission to get an achievement" kind of thing
Though tbf i don't think there were one before

[light harbor]

Getting dreadnought in randoms would be ludicrously easy

[obsidian oriole]

This dockyard has some strange missions

A lot of the chapters have the same mission for classes

[tawdry turret]

oh i furgur theres ops

[light harbor]

I mean

Even if you don't play ops, just play a battleship

Or literally anything with a superheal

[severe plank]

if dets were still a thing you're technically helping the enemy get their achievements lol

[digital locust]

WG could make a dockyard mission to achieve 20% winrate over a week and some people would still argue that's PVE mains gatekeeping

[steel pier]

dew it, pick me a weird VII

[livid bridge]

California

[lusty lagoon]

it picked german dds

cuz uhh

for some reason i put german dds as a group there

but yeah

do maass

[steel pier]

Maass long gone

[steel pier]

nah, if i want all over the place, i play poltawa

[steel pier]

try another one

[light harbor]

Hm

I am poor

[steel pier]

get more boosters then

[lusty lagoon]

hmm scharnhorst

[light harbor]

Lanzhou

[steel pier]

not a weird one, but i take it. good ship, reliable BC

[tawdry turret]

Abruzzi

[livid bridge]

it's a BB

[steel pier]

i started in Schanrhorst now

[hybrid whale]

How

[severe plank]

hmm premium time dies soon

but I have enough coal for defence come the coupon reset

[steel pier]

i wont start this discussion all over, but i stick to the words of Royal Navy retired Adm Geoffrey Bennet and his BC designation

[light harbor]

I burn through my greys and greens with asyms pretty quick

[vague cedar]

...Cat pfp?

Where's old green one

[livid bridge]

well then according to him, it's not a BC

[steel pier]

it is litterally what RN Adm Bennet said abt both "ugly sisters" though and i am of his opinion

[livid bridge]

your source disagrees

[little abyss]

https://tenor.com/view/richelieu-heart-aa-bofors-war-thunder-gif-8185067975729115715

[light harbor]

What game is that from, anyway?

[severe plank]

what cat pfp?

[livid bridge]

the banned one

[steel pier]

WT

kinda obv

[light harbor]

I've never played WT

So how would I know that?

[obsidian oriole]

I don't think the British have much room of talking about ugly sisters when they had the Nelson class

[steel pier]

manually aiming, to shoot an AA heart, kinda funny

[steel pier]

rather the opinion of a retired navy Adm, who has more to do with ships, then ppl, who tried to come me with armor values in wows, which arent even 100% exact

[livid bridge]

so I am kinda sick and i have not pooped for 2 days for some reason, I will force it out with this random kebab for breakfast

[obsidian oriole]

Also, looking into it, Geoffrey Bennet never achieved the rank of admiral

[livid bridge]

maybe he was a world of warships veteran

[obsidian oriole]

He was a captain, and seemed to have the role of a flag lieutenant to various admirals

[cobalt current]

ranked today

[livid bridge]

deserved for queuing sub 😌

[cobalt current]

I do not take subs CVs to ranked, I was just testing

[frozen vector]

diagnosis: need valp

[eager pumice]

Playing Brindisi and Soyuz in a Valpa world is basically griefing your team and yourself

[cobalt current]

I was just testing, but it does not matter what you take what class what ship, it's just defeat

[livid bridge]

unless you just win

[cobalt current]

well if I could swipe my card and get a valpa that'd be just great

[light harbor]

Or you could take a Katsonis or a Black

Or even a Kitakaze or Mogador

[cobalt current]

I tried every class, like I said, still the same

[livid bridge]

I mean yeah if you are taking Ls in a Soyuz you will just lose in a Valpa too

[wild shoal]

Emilio 💀

[light harbor]

I don't see you trying a destroyer

[cobalt current]

It's down there somewhere 😄

I just couldn't catch it in a ss

[eager pumice]

Emilio primarily works against very dumb players who do exist, except those people are often in Emilios

[cobalt current]

I have groningen

[frozen vector]

personally i cant handle miss torp salvo againt valp

[honest silo]

Hey average_atlanta_enjoyer.

[wild shoal]

Legit insta loss dd

you see one you know you've lost

[opaque latch]

Valpa nerf does nothing, and most likely WG wont nerf her again

[steel pier]

ok, maybe wording in my book, or misread, still this book is a better guide for me, to classify my ugly sisters, then coming me with untrue ingame armor schemes

[light harbor]

Literally the worst destroyer to bring into ranked

[livid bridge]

who said anything about in game armor schemes besides you btw

[light harbor]

Nothing is stopping a Valp from just running you over

Actually, forget Valp

[steel pier]

most ppl, who talk to me abt Scharnhorst and think, she had a belt armor of 350mm irl, when its only a game value and her irl was 320 only.

[opaque latch]

Just any BB ye

No torps

[light harbor]

Nothing is stopping literally anything from running you over

Even just a Mogador can just gas you down

[livid bridge]

but that's irrelevant

[opaque latch]

She only good to guaeantee an early cap

Assuming no radar

[steel pier]

it is. more or less armor is a factor

i dont classify her after he ingame armor. i always go from the irl value

[light harbor]

Nothing stopping larger ships from driving her off the cap either

[eager pumice]

I wish I could say something nice about T9 ranked but it genuinely is always full of Valpas and suicide rushers and I think one of the reasons why there's so many people playing like bots in T9 ranked is that if they're not in Valp they basically can't win anyway so they just start spamming for the silver rewards and running 30% WRs

[light harbor]

Even a Z-46 has better staying power

[eager pumice]

It's why I essentially ignored T9 ranked until I got Valp itself (off steel I did earn myself)

[hexed escarp]

Manteuffel can just press W at Gron

[light harbor]

Doesn't even need to be Manteuffel

[tame kiln]

Yolo Emilio

[opaque latch]

Essentially ignoring ranked until WG bans her off it

[light harbor]

Even something like an Ibuki can just walk at a Groningen

[eager pumice]

which gets screwed by the actually good players in T9 ranked who are in the DDs

[honest silo]

Wait USS Cambridge CA-126 really have 305mm main gun guys?

[eager pumice]

or if the Valpa just has a brain and has one screen ship

[tame kiln]

nah

your job is to deal with Valpepe

[light harbor]

In this video game, sure

[tame kiln]

trade it

you either win it or you dont

that one is up to your teammates IQ

[honest silo]

Yeah I mean in game.

[opaque latch]

Angled valpa, and we get pre-nerf valpa

[light harbor]

Valp cit is like 350mm no?

[eager pumice]

343mm

[light harbor]

Close enough

[hexed escarp]

And exposed

[light harbor]

Cambridge/Alaska probably counter her a lot better post-nerf

[eager pumice]

Cambridge is the way

But I don't have it as an option

[light harbor]

Alaska?

[eager pumice]

not as consistent oddly

[honest silo]

I honestly want both Alaska and Cambridge.

[light harbor]

Well yeah

[hexed escarp]

Cambridge can solo it now, provided it is purely 1v1

[light harbor]

Cambridge has cruiser dispersion

[opaque latch]

Can alaska pen her consistently enough?

[light harbor]

Alaska has BC dispersion

[eager pumice]

and the issue with Cambridge/Alaska is it works particularly well against Valp

[light harbor]

They have the same shells

[eager pumice]

but isn't the best against other things

[light harbor]

?

[opaque latch]

I know, but against valpa

[light harbor]

Alaska has always been a top ranked pick

[light harbor]

If RNGesus lets you, probably

[opaque latch]

Fair

I prefer krons for meme tho

[light harbor]

Understandable

[little abyss]

It’s semi consistent

[light harbor]

Pre-Manteuffel and pre-Valp, Alaska was straight up the best cruiser pick for tier 9 IIRC

[little abyss]

Just because you have improved pen angles doesn’t mean you’re not still dealing with a heavily angled slab of armor

[steel pier]

read through book again, which is the german translation, in each tabula abt ships, they are listed as BCs. but i assume forthe german version of the book, they made it BB. he even wrote himself: "in german literatur they are classified as BBs" and: "in foreign literature (non ger) they are mainly classified as BC"

[tame kiln]

Buffalo

[little abyss]

You have 392mm of pen at 12km which isn’t enough if it’s angled enough to bounce default pen angles

[light harbor]

Cambridge having better handling probably is worthwhile consider for the ranges you need to be at for citting a Valp when it isn't flat broadside

[little abyss]

Needs to be under 10km imo

[light harbor]

Indeed

[hexed escarp]

Cambridge can cit Valpa through the cheek at around 7km

[little abyss]

Yeah

The other thing is Valp inside of 12km is a huge fire starter which sucks for large cruisers

Which Cambridge mitigates with superheat

[eager pumice]

As in
For the purpose of playmaking or running down the enemy BB/cruiser (not Valp) Alaska and Cambridge are okay but have limitations
Cambridge having faster reloading, more consistent guns being a bit better at the Anti-Valping and Alaska having more general options

But as someone with the Valp I also realise my options are far more open than heading straight in for a direct engagement and I could be doing more with the match in general

Also Alaska struggles against a good Andes (pens it all over and outslings it), Manteuffel etc.

[eager pumice]

yet it's still good, I've still seen good players in Alaska, but I recognise the window they operate in is more limited

[little abyss]

Can’t wait for the Valp nerf

[opaque latch]

Boy do I have news for you

[light harbor]

It's basically just Los Andes and Manteuffel that are really bad matchups for Alaska other than Valp

And even there, you can kite a Los Andes pretty well

A Manteuffel rushing you is... well yeah

[eager pumice]

yes it just comes back to "Valp is the problem" and until the nerf hits it isn't going away

People saying the Valpa nerf doesn't do anything IMO don't fully understand the issue because I think there's truth in both sides

[light harbor]

The nerf won't really change anything about tier 9 ranked

[little abyss]

^^

[light harbor]

It'll help against the 44%ers who give you broadside but beyond that Valp will remain the ultimate tier 9 ranked ship because of the way she's designed

[little abyss]

Stupid Valp players will get punished

[dim bridge]

only 120k but GOD DAMM

[hexed escarp]

The nerf only makes torp hits more impactful

[light harbor]

It makes midsection torp hits more impactful yes

[eager pumice]

Like a big part of what Valpa does is just essentially eating damage and delaying IMO

So forget the citadel % change that affects nothing but there is a hardline % decrease in how long it can eat enemy fire

[obsidian oriole]

Should be able to finish the Commonwealth commander mission when the anniversary starts

[little abyss]

But ranked generally doesn’t have the numbers for a 20% healing reduction to actually stop a valp from tanking

[light harbor]

Inb4 people start playing Jager into her

[eager pumice]

is that % drop significant?
I think we're going to have to see

[little abyss]

Unless it runs into the whole enemy team, but then if you do that you’re skill issuing

[light harbor]

Especially in ranked with less crossfire and focus fire

Valp can probably still confidentally charge into 3 people and survive

[opaque latch]

WG should just exclude the dcp from the F key really

[light harbor]

That would help a lot yes

And was my preferred solution

[opaque latch]

If they want to somewhat to keep gimmick, make it warspite dcp

[steel pier]

sec accuracy nerff too, pls

[dim bridge]

Man I fucking suck with wisconsin

I almost never use the combat instructions

because I can never get them

I'm holding my shots too much

[digital locust]

Jaeger can be ignored

[light harbor]

Too many ships rely on setting fires for damage for a ship to just be made immune to them without serious drawbacks

[steel pier]

remind me again, which VII you suggested a 10 min ago?

[light harbor]

Lanzhou?

[steel pier]

the other one

after that

[light harbor]

I didn't

[hexed escarp]

https://tenor.com/view/skill-issue-nfs-need-for-speed-major-skill-issue-l-gif-11851455108599273472

[light harbor]

That was the one

[little abyss]

Lanzhou again

[steel pier]

nvm, the other one suggested Abruzzi

i take Abruzzi

[dim bridge]

https://giphy.com/gifs/true-morgan-freeman-VjgKS1cmwYsWtP8SyN

[digital locust]

It's like that last valpa video from jingles. Bro kept on misplaying his F key and still killed all 6 opponents in ranked without a sweat. After nerf he would do exactly the same

[light harbor]

Indeed

That video made me want to cringe so badly

[river dune]

where can one find this video

[digital locust]

Jingles channel

[light harbor]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pfyu_RGQfY

[steel pier]

i dont have a captain on whisky anymore

[hexed escarp]

That sounds more like his opponents being dumber if misplayed Valpa smacked them

[dim bridge]

I built my Halsey for both Wisconsin and Vermont so I can switch em around

[steel pier]

~~i dont have halsey either ~~

[dim bridge]

w h a t?

[light harbor]

Heavy AP?

[dim bridge]

of course

[light harbor]

Fair enough

[digital locust]

In this case misplayed means he ate maybe 20k unnecessary fire damage. Completely inconsequential

[light harbor]

I'm boring so I just run tank build

[steel pier]

you heard me. i dont have Halsey, but i have Yamamoto on my Shikishima

[opaque latch]

Just a scratch

[light harbor]

I like my 6th heal

[dim bridge]

You have shikishima but not halsey]

[steel pier]

i have Yamamoto on Shikishima

[digital locust]

Lighthouse temu hydro valpa is the funniest ranked breaker I ever played

[dim bridge]

Yes but you have a steel ship before both of the campaign commanders

[pliant relic]

do you have shikishima on yamato

[steel pier]

but to be fair, i also dont have Shinonome from this one campaign, since i can only play random battles for this one.

[pliant relic]

-# cute

[steel pier]

and i have Shinano too, steel. and my next steel ship is going to be Pioneer

[dim bridge]

Vermont + Wisconsin Halsey

WAIT A FUCKING SECOND

WRONG BUILD

er we go

[digital locust]

Ur playing on NA, you could abuse Wisconsin even without a captain

[honest silo]

Hey Boomer.

[light harbor]

No fire prevention?

[dim bridge]

Its like beating a puppy to death, with a kitten

[dim bridge]

Don't need it wisconsin gets the super broken combat instructions

[honest silo]

Hey Artillerist.

[light harbor]

For Vermont though

[dim bridge]

Vermonts hidden most of the match and gets 40 second cooldown on the heals

Funny that it shares the same heal reload with its gun reload

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I prefer to be cautious personally

So I run fire prevention

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You would love to see my Montana build

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Mine is very boring, like I said

It does also work for most battleships though

[river dune]

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My montana is missing the Leg mod on the slot 5 because I'm too broke to get it

otherwise its perfect

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Vigilance?

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Yeah extra torpedo protection

Altough I could switch out concealment with torpedo lookout system

for like a 2.5km torpedo detect range

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The only thing that would really help you with is with deepwater torps

And the odd Khaba yolo

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Yeah which is why I just keep concealment on the 5th slot

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Fair enough

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Vigilance is just the best use of the two points

[eager pumice]

how KM mains be looking typing this before rushing the cap and dying with 20k dealt

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On Monty I actually prefer concealment even with the bad conceal

I just don't run Brisk

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On ships with 14km conceal at best I just throw the idea of concealment out

no point because you will always be outspotted so making sure you are outgunning them is better

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I've found it makes a pretty big difference on Montana at least

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???

bad conceal already
nah no point in making it better

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I oddly find 14km is a desirable concealment for a BB

if it was significantly over 14 I might consider giving it up fully but if I can just get around 14 that's a good range to be able to disengage at high tier IMO

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Better concealment usually translates into better tankiness because you can go dark a lot more easily

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what bb has worse full conceal of 14km?

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only supercars and KM cars suffer from this

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And then you have the newer battleships with insane concealment

[eager pumice]

think German or better, Soviet

I mean most of my BBs have conceal builds because most BB lines now have old cruiser concealment lowkey

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Hm yes my battleship needs to outspot cruisers because reasons

[eager pumice]

I run Fuso with furious but that's not high tier that doesn't count

[tame kiln]

Montana UU outdated

dont bother

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nuh uh it gets the better rudder

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Fuso is probably the only battleship that you don't want to run conceal on at all

It basically doesn't help in the slightest anyway

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which you kinda need on montana with its 22 second god damm rudder

[whole gorge]

fuso gets supercar conceal at t6

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It's not really a problem

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Also its crazy that kremlin gets a full conceal of 13.4km

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Kremlin / Sibir no conceal builds that put more into tanking / offense respectively might be worth it

just saying

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Monty rudder becomes an issue when you're not actively planning on how to deal with people shooting you

[blazing quest]

?

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I do actively plan but I'm also incredibly aggressive on Montana

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It's outdated yes but it's not unmanageable

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what are we even saying

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AI slop

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I need to turn in and out constantly to get full guns on enemies

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having better conceal is always better cause you have better chances of going dark and ambushing with salvos

even 14km is fine

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I don't ever plan to go dark on montana

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ideally with bb you play within 2 km of your conceal range to maximize dispersion and being able to disengage

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Thing is tanky as shit

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meh

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and I take fire for my team like a tank should

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like

even more so

with monty

since youre relatively tanky

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Is there like an izumo but more accurate guns but same tankiness?

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Uh chinese izumo

forget the name

Bajie?

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Baije

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you are just straight up playing bb wrong then

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ok lemme rephrase, is there a ship like an izumo but more accurate guns but same tankiness that is CURRENTLY AVAILABLE for F2P PLAYERS IN COAL or TECH TREE

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If I'm playing em wrong I never wanna be right

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what kind of response is that

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uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh no

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https://tenor.com/view/crying-emoji-dies-gif-21956120

[whole gorge]

just play vincent

clue

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It works for me and my average games on montana with the build go pretty good

as a matter a fact I'm gonna pull out my montana

I could steam myself playing montana too

With the build if you'd like to see

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Just curious guys.

How is Annapolis?

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Great ship but its tier 11

Superships are boring

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vincent

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better Izumo would maybe be this: