Sin master race general

[primal garden]

Should have invested on that

[grizzled current]

657 i thinl?

i can check in planner

[random nova]

kann nicht sein, wenn du 2 waffen full krit bist

[grizzled current]

https://aiongear.fun/eng/na30/assassin?build=cde32674-7162-49ea-b836-59937845fd70

now

i might socket 1 more crit stone

in a set piece

[rocky cloak]

@grizzled current

some more tradeable ones i guess

[grizzled current]

nah

hes trolling

[rocky cloak]

hm :c

[blissful harbor]

IS THAT LIGHTINg?!

or ? my eyes tired for daily job, maby the bind stone oh?

[blissful harbor]

and take a few away in 4.0😂

[vapid gyro]

Nice, any one-handed weapon that is not brigade general or admiral is capped regardless of how much pvp atk you have (at 6.3% pvp attack for e55 for example)...what a bunch of morons 🤡

[grizzled current]

ye kinda need a admiral or gbg weapon now for mb/macc

[blissful harbor]

i helping one new gearing

dude slapped admiral weap first chest

tac ~> admiral dag

[grizzled current]

haha

[vapid gyro]

How lucky...I'll switch characters until I can get abg or admiral. Being in a disadvantage like this gives me a sour taste.

[primal garden]

got dagger 2nd try

time to enchant this bad boy with some mb

[blissful harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/very-much-juicy-juicy-juiciness-the-very-much-juiciness-the-very-much-juicy-gif-18084069

[lime badger]

Man that guy bought tons of kinah by rmt 😅

Just swipe couple of times, and you will have 2x +15 admiral also, isn't hard 😅

[primal garden]

But im poor 💀

[grizzled current]

since rmt is always used for illegal stuff i want to make clear that i only buy aion coins

[solemn atlas]

What is rmt

[grizzled current]

real money trade

while aion coins are also that

rmt term is always used for non aion coin gains

[lime badger]

I didn't mean any illegal stuff mate 😅

[grizzled current]

ye all good just most do

[oak nebula]

Did you have rly enough crit strike with the almost 350 crit strike resist ?

[grizzled current]

thats with att macc food

and you have clear focus

[rocky cloak]

but its not even enough with focus no?

+12 admiral gear has like 420 strik res no?

so you'd need crit food for everything with good gear

[grizzled current]

ye its 1 stone less

but its fine anyway

ill keep it this way for next 2 month

till patch

[rocky cloak]

once you fight Mrlucky and his full +15 admiral gear ur .. well whatever :D

[oak nebula]

In my mind the next acc will give us 20-25 crit more

[grizzled current]

im not gonna socket 1 more crit stone into a set piece just to change it again in 2 month

[grizzled current]

dont forget the weapon

78 crit from this

[oak nebula]

yup ofc

[grizzled current]

rn i have 12 crit stones

with that pve dagger we need like 7-9 not sure

[oak nebula]

i saw on Kr gear they only have one weap full crit

idk if they don't care about the 50% crit cap

[grizzled current]

ye seems like kr never cares

and goes almost full att

but also

kr now has clear focus as a perma passive

that is huge

[oak nebula]

Yep 100 free crit is huge

That why actually i don't count on it in most case

i don't want 50% crit on only half time

[grizzled current]

its 40 without

still fine

i just dont want to always waste kinah resocketing 1-2 stones

[oak nebula]

i saw u use 2 pvp new weap, why don't just use Padma dagger or Masta/veille one ?

to get crit back

& get a bit more of attk & wait next patch for 60 pve

[grizzled current]

admiral dagger is highest base att atm

and sword i need next patch anyway

i dont want to also get a padma weap

[oak nebula]

yeah but u loose 68 crit

[grizzled current]

base att more important then green att

[rocky cloak]

ye, just do padma dagger +15 aswell, not a waste at all :x

[grizzled current]

its quite a diff

[oak nebula]

you will loose around 10 atk for get back 68 crit

[grizzled current]

10 base att is alot

[oak nebula]

and you can socket only 4 crit manastone

& one atk

[grizzled current]

gbg to admiral is 15 base att upgrade

[oak nebula]

but it's only on your main weap so it will mostly affect your pkysical skill & not your base atck no ?

[grizzled current]

nice mb dagger now XD

[rocky cloak]

"only on your main weap"

thats the most important one :c

[grizzled current]

main hand basee att goes for skills and main hand auto, offhand base att goes to offhand auto

[oak nebula]

for skill yep but not the AA

[rocky cloak]

?

[oak nebula]

oh right ? My bad then lmao

[grizzled current]

sin also has best dual wield %

like 80%? i think

[oak nebula]

Hmm i see

I'm gonna keep my padma project in my head cause the 60 dagger cost too much atm xDD

[rocky cloak]

better option would be admiral dagger + wol sword btw

[oak nebula]

I'll stack for the 60 pve

[rocky cloak]

but its a waste aswell

[oak nebula]

Naa the admiral sword is too strong

& you gonna keep it ne'xt patch

& remplace by a pve dagger

[rocky cloak]

too strong for what?

[oak nebula]

base atk

[rocky cloak]

did you compare these two?

[grizzled current]

you also need the pve sword for mb/ma swaps

[oak nebula]

I think it's more valuable to get the sword & change dagger by the 60 Pve in two month

[grizzled current]

admiral dagger will be my mb weap next patch

[rocky cloak]

ye good luck getting salvation dagger at start of the patch

[grizzled current]

ye

[oak nebula]

The rune skill take the base atck to make damage ?

[grizzled current]

no

+0 is fine for runes

[oak nebula]

Ok ok

So dagger or sword on mb set we don't care ?

As soon as u have max pvp atk it's fine no ?

[grizzled current]

phys best is salvation dagger admiral sword

magic admiral dagger salvation sword

[oak nebula]

Oooh i see the mac on sword rn xDD

[grizzled current]

ye

its so good

[oak nebula]

I didn't notice this sub stats 🥲

Ok i need to do the dagger

shit

[oak nebula]

In mb acc you still use primus pillus to max ur mb stat right ?

[grizzled current]

for now ye

will switch to divine pvp ones

[oak nebula]

Hmm so we gonna loose mb for Ma

& more crit spell

Ok seems strong xD

[primal garden]

Saving kinah to buy dagger and sword asap xd

[grizzled current]

@oak nebulahttps://aiongear.fun/eng/na30/assassin?build=bdff7631-f154-4f7c-8d25-f1a3ac08d74c

702 att with 848 crit

[oak nebula]

huge asf

BUT +15 on both weapon 🥲

[grizzled current]

and ma mb sets

same weapons

[oak nebula]

OK you keep your set of weap for both switch

you don't try to do 2 set of weap

[grizzled current]

ye

[oak nebula]

i see

[grizzled current]

i dont want 2 of same item

the only where its fine is the mb set

items that you switch back with skillbar

need to be uniques

cant have 2 of same

[oak nebula]

Hm you don't use the aion equipment set for switch ?

[grizzled current]

i use that to switch to mb set

but i dont wait the 1 second cd to switch back

[oak nebula]

You use maccro to switch back on atk set ?

[grizzled current]

ye

[oak nebula]

I see

I should set up that too, i only use equiment set

Seems kinda annoying to setup properly

[grizzled current]

ye it takes a while

and next patch i also have to swap mainhand

which i didnt do so far

[oak nebula]

In my mind the macro can't set properly the 2 weaps on each hand

[grizzled current]

it works but id only do it with weapons

not weapons earrings and rings

so i sac a ring earring slot in favor of faster swap

[oak nebula]

How do you make it work properly with 2 weaps ?

[grizzled current]

early in marco

use mainhand

later in macro uneq offhand

eq offhand

[oak nebula]

Can you show me what does it look like ?

I'm curious xD

[grizzled current]

ye

[rocky cloak]

ye but there are quite a few people saving up for those, and i dont think there will be many up for sale first weeks

[primal garden]

Ye although when i say save

I mean save a lot

Xd

Gonna run with a couple of alts, got reset scrolld

Should be able to get at least one of the weapons early

[grizzled current]

@oak nebulahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SFhYSknrrw

kr usually solved it this way

swap back what they can

and rest after 1 sec

but i dont like that

[oak nebula]

same

We don't have any way to just switch all of our set properly with macro ? 😭

[grizzled current]

maybe with ahk

it doesnt work properly for me

[oak nebula]

seems like cheating no ?

[grizzled current]

in theory its like this

you eq left slot

un eq right slot

eq right slot

[primal garden]

Its what i do ye

[oak nebula]

We don't have the /useright command

In my mind this kind of command was available no ?

[grizzled current]

doesnt work on classic xe

and skillbar confuses which item is which

if you have 2 of same

every server change its 50:50 if skillbar uses the same or the other

[oak nebula]

Yeah and macro system allow quickslot use only on the 3 main quick bar right ?

[grizzled current]

no

i swap to diff page

you even see it in that vid

thats like ahk fast from that kr vid

[oak nebula]

I see

[grizzled current]

my swaps are alot slower

need to upgrade pc XD

[primal garden]

Also ping dependent though

[grizzled current]

ye fps and ping

[oak nebula]

i've arouund 12 ms & 120 fps

[grizzled current]

but with 4 cores icue is also to slow

for me

[oak nebula]

I should upgrade my way of switch lmao

[primal garden]

12

Fucking hell

I wish

[grizzled current]

you should have had me earlier btw, surprise effekt to big XDD but you had all the mobs aggro

[oak nebula]

Yep xD

But it's fine

the next time will be the good one

Buut i did a mistake by not dodging the ambush stun effect

they make me lost a lot of time

and force me to use rs too early

And i was a bit suprised by the amount of damage i took xD

[grizzled current]

yea haha you would be surprised how much dmg is possible rn with those new weapons

[oak nebula]

It's insane xD i took like 5k in less than a second

The fail ambush dodge was enough to make me loose xD

[blissful harbor]

and dag+ sword extend

[primal garden]

Gl dropping them when patch drops 😂

Apparently can only get them with s rank xd

Or something like that

[grizzled current]

na did not manage a ranke yet and they do have salvation weapons for it already

[blissful harbor]

its atleast B rank for extends i believe @primal garden

or is it even c? if its burning downfall weaps in pic?

[grizzled current]

the problem is the line in the bottom

and that we cant rly do s and a early on

[blissful harbor]

yea

[blissful harbor]

well still gucci wait and swipe

[dense shadow]

Not really surprising since there are very few people even trying. Most on na have their eternal already from a drop event. Player base is so small and even less care about the updated citadel

[primal garden]

The stigmas are tia stigmas?

[oak nebula]

@grizzled current 🥲

[grizzled current]

🙂

somehow i got away

[oak nebula]

next time i'm gonna reveal before juump xD

[grizzled current]

xD

[primal garden]

Qhat the fuck are timeless and silent weapons?

[grizzled current]

60 versions of pacification

serenity and solitude on eu

[primal garden]

Ah

[dense shadow]

Eu doesn't have timeless (probably will have different name for eu) yet, they are slightly better than the solitude ones. Can drop from cosmos or the new citadel.

[grizzled current]

but still just fabled?

[dense shadow]

Correct yea

Same substats just a little higher all around compared to solitude

[empty bronze]

ggs -_- para gs auf das alte abg schwert gepackt anstatt auf die neue waffe

[reef parcel]

dead chat

[patent kelp]

dead chat

[blissful harbor]

its not dead, just afk🥴

[brazen shadow]

u take admiral dag or sword for atk set when u have the new pve weps?

[lime badger]

Burning salvation dagger + admiral sword for main atk / crit
Admiral dagger + pve sword for mboost / macc

[brazen shadow]

tyvm

[brazen shadow]

whats target crit for atk set and target macc for mb/macc set?

[brazen shadow]

I can make these 2 sets if reroll, u think its enough for a decent start? https://aiongear.fun/eng/eu30/assassin?build=a6ad0ca8-2e67-4611-9b04-546b4839ed40

[lime badger]

It should be fine with atk / crit set, but I recommend to put atk manastones in weapons, because you gonna use them in pve as well. So just socket crit in armor parts.

Also make magic weapons, because you will lose mboost / macc (depends what you socket), when use main weapons.

[brazen shadow]

Alright thanks, I’ll make magic weps too, I also have e55 full MB. Do I need both MB and Macc weps?

[oak nebula]

@grizzled current buy Slayer form II 😭

[grizzled current]

dude

its alt

everyone full cd jumping on r9 alt

[oak nebula]

wait what ?

[grizzled current]

2x pve weap

+1 primus set

[oak nebula]

hahaha

[grizzled current]

primus accs

gotta farm gs for extends

[oak nebula]

Extends are tradeable ?

[grizzled current]

ye like the current veile mast ones

[oak nebula]

oh nice

[grizzled current]

and this class also easy for the 13k score gs

primus with 3-4 evasion stones each lol

[oak nebula]

But you still need tradeable weaps to use ur gs

[grizzled current]

ye the extends

[oak nebula]

Yeah only for the extends

[grizzled current]

and maybe i change this char to rev if i want to gear it

so far its just been pve alt

[oak nebula]

Switch for brawler

[blissful harbor]

xD 2x para?

[icy dome]

You rly think ull drop x2 extends from Rank version? 😂

[grizzled current]

drop? buy? whats the diff

[icy dome]

Drop rates are shit enough that they will be insanely rare to buy as well, especially since most ppl wont be able to manage high ranks to have better rtes

[grizzled current]

do you remember which part it was on na that said soul bound on echant

[patent kelp]

it will come next patch

for us

[icy dome]

enchant and socket

[grizzled current]

trying to find it in na notes

[verbal pier]

@grizzled current i'll get extends for u, dw

[grizzled current]

big money

[verbal pier]

https://tenor.com/view/hasbulla-gif-12654501364171447161

[glacial monolith]

XD

That information is not in NA notes, they discovered it directly in game, and players weren't happy

[grizzled current]

and we 100% know thats mana aaaaand enchant stones

[grizzled current]

for manastones it is

last • in the screenshot

[glacial monolith]

Yes, it was changed much later once it was useless xD

This was what they first released "Key Changes"

[solemn atlas]

Trick, put doble sword to reach faster

[grizzled current]

already reached it

[grizzled current]

haha and that was also part 2 notes?

[glacial monolith]

Yes, NA patchnotes are always full of errors and they don't bother, and when they do it's always late

This one down here should be 20 minutes and not 20 seconds (recovery crystals)
I pinged about this on the day it was released (5th February) and the one in charge said he would share it to the team, but they still need to edit it

[icy dome]

imagine if crystals were 20s cd XD

how utterly overpowered that would be

[grizzled current]

@glacial monolith do you know much the ap gain/loss from ow pvp changed with the ranking rework?

[glacial monolith]

3.2 was so shit that it killed ow pvp, but it should have been fixed in 3.4 according to NA and aioncodex

NA from players talking about it, and codex from the ap losses and gains

Look how shit they are in 3.2 (from RU, right image)

[grizzled current]

the ap need is for the ranks?

seems so low

[glacial monolith]

Yeah, since relics doesn't count anymore

[grizzled current]

hmm then its actually gonna ramp up fast in terms of ranks

thx

[dense shadow]

Part two. Only enchants and socketing, can still put a gs without it soul binding.

[grizzled current]

2x para extends here we go

[dense shadow]

They probably realized zero ap required was a bad idea with people bouncing around ranks and using different xforms right after reset.

[grizzled current]

i think ow is gonna be fun

with that system

[dense shadow]

Yea even with the updated version with the min ap required day one after reset will be more chaotic. Easier to move between ranks and use different xforms in pvp.

Pvp, use 5 star xform, pvp and get general and xform again since they don't share cd

[grizzled current]

and only 300 players offi and higher sounds crazy low

[random nova]

i have 2k accuracy but idk i have snot munch

[brazen shadow]

does sin have any +/- internal macc on any cc skills?

[ancient gate]

All runes except rune burst are +500 macc

Rune burst is +300 iirc

[blissful harbor]

Agony Rune
+400 magic accuracy (500 on level 2)

Ambush
+100 magic accuracy (200 on level 3, 300 on level 4, 400 on level 5, 500 on level 6)

Assassin's step (2.7 stigma)
1s stun
+1000 magic accuracy
+30% speed in stealth
Stealth doesn't break on damage

Binding Rune
+300 magic accuracy (400 on level 2, 500 on level 3)

Blood Rune( no idea about the better version?)
+400 magic accuracy (500 on level 2)

Explosive Burst
+200 magic accuracy

Needle Rune
+500 magic accuracy (1000 on level 2)

Pain Rune
+200 magic accuracy (300 on level 2, 400 on level 3, 500 on level 4)

Radiant Rune (+ stigma ver)
+500 magic accuracy (only on damage)
Decrease attack speed by 50%

Rune Burst
+300 magic accuracy

Signet Silence
+500 magic accuracy

Weakening Blow
Pierce through evade skills up to level 2

+3000 magic accuracy on debuff
Undispellable

and i think throw dagger have like [phone]ma for DISPELL part but not for stun part

Explosive burst is free 11m stun next patch, so its nice to have later too

[primal garden]

The fuck is weakning blow?

The sneak attack with debuff?

[blissful harbor]

blue backstab

[primal garden]

Ye

Didnt know it went through evade skills

Thats useful to know

[blissful harbor]

ye evasion - mr

[blissful harbor]

good to neutralize evasion builds

[primal garden]

So, if a sin uses focused evasion and i use weakning blow

[blissful harbor]

it goes past without triggering it

[primal garden]

I go through the fe and debuff him?

I break and apply debuff?

At the same time?

[blissful harbor]

i said wrong, shit slapped insta send

no wait

fe is lvl 1 evade

so they will evade it

idk if they resist it xD

[brazen shadow]

legend, thanks!

[grizzled current]

sadly its not the case

if it was the case you wouldnt ever need macc set

ambush has it ye

runes? doesnt seem like it

[primal garden]

Ye

Runes seem poor tbh

[grizzled current]

ambush and sin step have it

throw dagger on shield remove yes, on stun prob ye but its just 200 on stun anyway

the runes dont seem to have it

[warped raptor]

All runes have their 1. access MA which means that skill is not resisted, and 2. Effect MA, which means after skill accessed and is not competely resisted will it apply the effect it has. So for example pain rune might be completely resisted, or might access and did dmg,but did not apply stun effect, or accessed+applied stun effect

Access MA is usually higher, effect MA lower. I dont remember exact numbers rn out of top of my head but its around pain rune access +400 on lvl 4 and effect MA +200 on same lvl 4, around that numbers in stat

[quaint echo]

Friends, think i will reroll sin with event.. how much base crit needed for pvp?
And also, i will use combimed mb/ma set to begin with, how much MA should i minimum aim for? Thanks

[blissful harbor]

2.4K+ ma during oath/slayer is gucci for most part

[brazen shadow]

what strats do you have as solo sin during agent? do you do bow/pick ppl out on the side?

[icy dome]

Sin has such a hard rota in PvE 😂

[verbal pier]

Cap crit is enough hahaha

[grizzled current]

well with chanter and playing you could also do like 5-6 xD

[icy dome]

do 5-6 what? Oo

[grizzled current]

k dps

[icy dome]

well top sin isnt even at 5k dps

so idk

[grizzled current]

chanter is huge diff

that was 2 weeks ago

[robust hill]

It's the dmg while being on wow + mantra + inspiration. I think I would probably be over 5k5 if i played it but it's not really worth if u have a double account with a sorc to maximize rewards.

[grizzled current]

ye it makes sense to just auto sin on 2nd acc

its enough for rewards

[quaint echo]

Double para > para silence ?

[blissful harbor]

para bind, para airbind(next patch). silence is okay but with enchant it kinda falls off alot

[dense shadow]

Gl actually getting the aether hold gs though.

One of these drop from the boss every two weeks

[icy dome]

33% chance to get it

not that bad

[dense shadow]

Yea one person on the server

[grizzled current]

bind so far 2 got opened

and its 40%

do you really want the blue one xd

[blissful harbor]

thats another story😂

[lime badger]

Guys are you going to play classic if they will just copy > paste 4.0 from KR to EU? It seems to be completely braindead game for unskilled players. I'm not even talking about lumines, most of classes gameplay will come down to pressing 1 button, like mobile game...

[verbal pier]

Im curious so ill try it. But after 2 or 3 weeks it will be done

[primal garden]

Idk dont think about it too much

When it stops being fun, i stop playing

[grizzled current]

thats why we need 3.7 asap.. beeing stuck at high rank aint fun

[oak nebula]

If you think, playing the game is not fun, then try to beat the dumb class with sin master race 😄

[brazen shadow]

is there any trick to not get all gear thrown around randomly in the inventory when gear swapping?

[icy dome]

nope

[tranquil wasp]

Is there any hp recovery skill/stigma other than Blood rune? 🙂

[primal garden]

Believe not

[verbal pier]

The 2k dp from elyos too but it sucks. It's 750 hp flat

[primal garden]

I forgot about that one

Its so shit, erased it from my memory xd

[verbal pier]

I think i used it once in tower to stay alive from an auto attack from last boss 😂 but it's so shit

[primal garden]

Crazier that hp bailed you xd

The 2k dp.skills get buffed next patch

Wonder if the drain will as well

[verbal pier]

Isnt it only damage?

And the best thing is: pve buff doesnt buff the healing received from this dp 😂

[primal garden]

Ye theyre buffing the damage, was thinking they could buff the heal as well

Thats funny holy fuck

Even odella treatment accounts for the pve bonus

What a shit skill

[verbal pier]

Oh this i didnt know

[verbal pier]

Af bro 😂

[primal garden]

Maybe it has some use in pvp? Your health has more weight there

But even then

Just dirk the cunt

[tranquil wasp]

Well, thanks, im new to assassin. So trying it.
😛 Yes, its shit.. ^^ i go make some pots then

[verbal pier]

Yeah maybe. But tbh it never saved me in 5 years playing sin

[primal garden]

Ye, it sucks

At least strike of darkness will be buffed

2k dp glacial

[primal garden]

So, which pvp set effect are sims thinking of using for pve? Hp mp drain or fe devotion cd reduce?

[verbal pier]

devo cd reduce everyday

hp drain could be good for tower

[primal garden]

Ye thought the same

[verbal pier]

but devo better

[primal garden]

Drain is nice but pots keep your hp mp in check amd devotion too strong

Thankfully cosmos gear has no set bonus

[verbal pier]

yeah true + pve def so no need of hp drain

you only need 4 parts btw of cosmos to already have better set than sw in stats

• pvp part with devo reduce cd

and you are gucci

[primal garden]

Ye, think that makes cosmos gear a decent priority

[verbal pier]

yep

if you want to focus rank A in citadel it's really good i think

[primal garden]

Ye, think the faster you get the gear, the better rank you'll have early on

Which turns into more money

Gonna be painful going for pve bonus again on 60 eternal gear though 💀

[verbal pier]

https://tenor.com/view/xrd-exrd-crypto-btc-eth-gif-23801255

[verbal pier]

Yeah... i will do it on only one char i think haha

[primal garden]

Ye, my other alts will keep mostly same gear

For the pve bonus

[verbal pier]

already enough for alts group bro

[primal garden]

Ye exactly

Too much shit to get next patch

Holy

[verbal pier]

did u see that u can duo nearly all cosmos?

insane content as alts hahaha

[primal garden]

Ye

Even saw a solo on some with sm 😂

[verbal pier]

yeah 😂

im lvling a sorc just to do it

and got sw chain set to heal as chanter

[primal garden]

Ye i got all 3

My sorc is nasty

Gonna be quick

[verbal pier]

yeah they do it fast

[primal garden]

You can probably trio the whole instance

For safety

[verbal pier]

yeah

[primal garden]

Until you get acquainted with the bosses

[verbal pier]

i still don't know what loot last boss in hard mode

[primal garden]

Oh jt has modes like bt?

[verbal pier]

only the last boss

other no

[primal garden]

Interesting

Wonder whats the difference

Last boss is the guy with the sword right?

[blissful harbor]

S rank? its a better version tradeable gold weaps i think

[verbal pier]

in allos cosmos

[blissful harbor]

aa nvm idk then

[dense shadow]

Normal mode drops pants/chest only both gold/eternal. Hard mode also drops fire dragon skins, 58 extends, solitude weapons and the upgraded version of solitude

[primal garden]

Cosmos drops extends?

What

[dense shadow]

Mega rare but yes

https://aion.plaync.com/guidebook/classic/view?title=알로스 코스모스

Can use Google translate

[solemn atlas]

https://youtu.be/Opikxq3LkbA?si=XRXh7k4eGPUYHj0X
A good shit

[tranquil wasp]

Can brawler see u Shadow walk? they got skill for that or?

[icy dome]

No

[tranquil wasp]

Okey 😛 i guess i cought Voi target me out of nowhere then xD

[icy dome]

Shitton of ppl seem to be using cheats to see ppl in hide...

Nothing new there

[lime badger]

They use all cheats that exist ffs..

[brazen shadow]

whats a decent sword to use for macc swaps only?

[primal garden]

wait for next patch, we get a sword with bonus +70 ma

[tranquil wasp]

Waiting for 6 months now.. xD

[verbal pier]

it should be really soon, is ok

[lime badger]

I think it might be be delayed, coz of server merge.

[verbal pier]

They still make everything ending on 23rd. Even new tower season. + tiamat daily cuz it's deleted next patch

[tranquil wasp]

what is ending?

[verbal pier]

Events and tower season. New arena season starts 23rd april too. There is no point to cut tower season after 2 weeks

[tranquil wasp]

How do i get massacre? 😛

[grizzled current]

check for obliteration in broker

[tranquil wasp]

aaah.. Thank you

[lime badger]

So any ideas for new meta stigmas pvp / pve builds? 😅

[primal garden]

for pvp i'm replacing deadly poison with explosive burst

for pve idk yet

maybe something like this https://stigma-build.fun/calculator/assassin/e1a5cdce-f391-420f-b0bf-184adb12586d

maybe agony rune over venom strike

[grizzled current]

dred and ow for me

[icy dome]

No Flurry or Poison? oO

[grizzled current]

flurry is already cut for pvp dreds

poison we just cant yet

[primal garden]

no burst?

[verbal pier]

For dred i will use same one yeah. I dont really see what is better than that. For ow i would change d&s for burst. And maybe lightning slash for flurry. Maybe there will be more solo ppl with new rank season so more fights to chain...

[primal garden]

i don't care about dred tbh

will only give a shit for arena and ow

[grizzled current]

agonizing for ls is also a good option if you dont go dns

i might also go flurry instead of oath in ow

i have both mac and mb sets and acc set so even on slayer downtime i can hit everything

[verbal pier]

ok true

not bad idea

[grizzled current]

in grp the thing you have to decide with grp is if you need the oath grp buff

then you cant play sinstep

but sinstep is a very good tool aswell

to interruppt sm or a loci

[verbal pier]

yeah that's it but maybe u can remove the gold stigma in this case

[grizzled current]

for grp pvp i think there is to much value in a 1 min cd 4k dmg kd

id play it ow too but walk is just to much qol in ow

[verbal pier]

ok broken yeah

[brazen shadow]

there’s no point in stacking relics any longer right? might as well turn everything in

[oak nebula]

did you see, in 4.0 we'll get every stigma in this branch goes to 30 sec CD

if u want to burst fast c:

pretty good xD

[grizzled current]

4.0 is a complete meme with 2min cd and 500 stun pen on deadly focus

[blissful harbor]

still useless xD only shit we want stun pen for is lumines? xD when gladis get 2k UD😅

[grizzled current]

idk you dont really play

but pvp dreds play stun mantra

also ranger has aoe grp whisper

[verbal pier]

Is it useful to make a pve buff with the free sw wednesday? I mean, will it change a lot the dps? Does the sw give more mboost?

[grizzled current]

admiral should be more

[verbal pier]

Yeah that's what i was thinking. I need to check how many mboost is worth if u compare with % pve attack. Because for example, i have more damage with 2.2 pve attack from masta belt than with jotun mboost belt. But it's like 30 more damage

[grizzled current]

i calced with undying neck and lament ring

magic

i dont have masta belts

[blissful harbor]

well no one have played 4.0? x) and yea if u consider aoe whisper ye and mantra and so ye

[primal garden]

Isnt that macc a bit too low?

Under 2k with buffs

[grizzled current]

thats pve

[primal garden]

Oh

Nvm im retarded

Ig if you have macc on weapons admiral also works for pvp mb

Is the difference between admiral mb and cav mb big?

Enough to compensate for macc loss?

[blissful harbor]

+114mb 60 pvp and cavalier is +184ma more

[blissful harbor]

compared to each other

[primal garden]

oof that's so much ma

holy fuck

[blissful harbor]

but with pve buffs later, swapping full max mb for just boss dmg and even leech hona feel good

as long they dont slap msup on mobs🤣

[patent kelp]

4.0 they slap 200 i think

to mobs

[primal garden]

true i guess

but like

idk if it's worth sacrificing so much macc for pvp to do a bit more damage in pve

[icy dome]

are u counting magic stat rolls on admiral?

[blissful harbor]

no, thats like 5x41mb extra and 11x5 ma extra

thats even more mb in fleet admiral favour, i have combat admiral for now xD

or 5x27 // 5x11 for more common roll

[primal garden]

you can roll mb/ma on admiral

then it may be better than cav for mb

[grizzled current]

that will be my mb set and macc set stats with candy and food but without buffs

keep in bind thats with 1 magic ring earring

so if you do slower swaps you get more stats

[primal garden]

that's very good actually

i use 2 mag earrings

so hm

and you use normal admiral for that right?

[grizzled current]

in that mb set stats it was 4x admiral and fleet gloves (from shugo later )

its same mb and like 13 less macc with admiral gloves

the macc set is full cav

[primal garden]

that's interesting

lots of mb

[grizzled current]

but its with the 41mb 11 macc x mcrit on every admiral piece

so thats alot of quna

[primal garden]

and with buffs you hit everything

ye something extremely long term

[grizzled current]

ye

something you slowly upgrade

[primal garden]

but we're gonna have this pvp gear for sooo long

[grizzled current]

exactly

[primal garden]

have more than enough time

[grizzled current]

i already got 3x cloth admiral., chest form leftover pass tokens

and i bought gloves and boots

minmaxing the shugo for accs i need

[primal garden]

ye ofc

[grizzled current]

so ill get 2 hats 2 necks 3 earrings from shugo

that minmax means i also get wings very early

[primal garden]

more expenaive ones ye

[grizzled current]

besides 4x fleet parts

and 3 rings 2 belts instant

[primal garden]

ye knowing wings give the pve and pve attack is huge

priority will prob be meta stigmas wings and leftover for accs

idk

i have so many boxes of ap

will only know how much i have when i open everything

medals i have like 1k

[spark forum]

Just checked your Stigma build. My suggestion for OW would be:
Keep QD and remove LS and/or Lethal Venom and use Shadowwalk.

Dred:
Looks fine for me, but again i m not a huge fan of Lethal Venom.

But i may be biased because i often forget to use it or i dont feel that much impact 😛

[grizzled current]

you need ls and venom to play dns

you need dns and sensory to play qd

[spark forum]

With the new patch i thought you can use the advance stigmas to pick greater stigmas without prequisites?

[grizzled current]

thats only for the 1st column

you can only exclude the normal stigmas

[spark forum]

ah i see....well, then nvm what i said 😛

[grizzled current]

we cant really ever exclude blind

so that leaves us with poison, oath

[spark forum]

Blind i wouldnt want to swap anyway

Blind + Oath is set anyway in every PvP build

[grizzled current]

oath ill prob only play in arena

and if my dred grp really needs it

[spark forum]

mmhh....QD is really nice to have though.
But i dont wanna miss SW as well

Well, QD or Shadowfall

I would argue QD > Shadowfall

[grizzled current]

this could be the arena build

[spark forum]

Guess we need a second set of certain stigmas for the 2. Stigma page

[grizzled current]

ye i already prepped that

for ow and dred i dont have to swap alot

[spark forum]

of course you did 😄

[grizzled current]

for arena i will have

[spark forum]

Well, it all comes down to SW or not
And i really like SW and dont wanna miss it

[grizzled current]

ye

[spark forum]

In Dred i dont care, but OW without SW? mmmhh...nah

[grizzled current]

dred you dont want it

ow and arena i think you should play it

[lime badger]

So guys it seems we need to buy all meta stigmas for different builds 😅

[spark forum]

I m getting so broke.....

How many Daeva Passes do we need to buy? 2? 3?

[high plank]

anyone share with me best pve stigmas?

[oak nebula]

why remove 2% stun poison ? 😭

even if the rune stun is instant, the cd still too high to use it instead of poison stun ?

[grizzled current]

i dont like the rng poison

and next patch its a passive anyway

ill prob mainly play with dns

[oak nebula]

don't like but proc a lot and still more valuable than 2min CD stun imo

mostly because the stun proc can proc through plat devo

and this point is hard

[verbal pier]

Sometimes not that good btw

[grizzled current]

ye

[oak nebula]

yeah cause it's rng

but overvall it might be a better choice than 2min CD stun imo

probably i'm wrong

idk

[grizzled current]

ye theres other options too

this would give you 2 slots for flurry oath sw

for arena or ow

[oak nebula]

in 4.0 ?

yeah

[grizzled current]

no

today

[oak nebula]

why your remove flurry ?

[grizzled current]

in arena you need it

in ow you dont

[oak nebula]

why ?

it's allow you to fight more longer

[verbal pier]

Tbh i like flurry in ow

U chain fights

[oak nebula]

yup

[verbal pier]

It's not like in dred where i can understand that u remove it

[oak nebula]

and you can do some pvp group in ow too

[verbal pier]

I mean we can decide when we fight too but yeah flurry is insane in ow

Oath ok maybe it's not needed in ow

Or it was. Because more geared ppl will pvp too

[grizzled current]

ye dropping oath in ow is fine if you have macc set

and acc set

[oak nebula]

i don't have it for now, i'm gona keep oath xD

[verbal pier]

Same haha

[grizzled current]

i have full cav macc

[oak nebula]

imo u can switch lightning slash by the other who drop rm stat

[grizzled current]

only if you dont play dns

[verbal pier]

No

[oak nebula]

rm stat is more valuable to drop instead of acc

[grizzled current]

if you want dns you cant play agonizing

[oak nebula]

dns ?

[grizzled current]

dash and slash

[verbal pier]

Dash and slash

[oak nebula]

oh

no care about dns

atm

[grizzled current]

its already at 90 sec cd

[oak nebula]

and drop at 30 in next pacth

[grizzled current]

and since i play this in dred

i only have to swap 2 stigmas

[solemn atlas]

Dont like that build for OW, but looks good for some stuff

[grizzled current]

but i wrote dred

[oak nebula]

imo this one is good

[solemn atlas]

Ah srry mate, i translating and tryint understanding🙏

[oak nebula]

just switch lighning by agonizing

and if u have macc set u can remove oath and use the stun rune

instead

[solemn atlas]

I cannot play any PvP content without SB

It is very useful for me when I have to engage in a group, or when I have to kite, and in the 4.0 they buffed

[verbal pier]

Probably the best for nearly all bosses

[high plank]

yea but thats lvl 65:))

[verbal pier]

No dont pay attention to that. When u put meta stigma it put lvl 65

Idk why

[solemn atlas]

@oak nebula So brother, when are you coming to get tattooed?

[oak nebula]

XD

No monney

Do it for free

[solemn atlas]

If someday you come to the Canary Islands, do not doubt that I would make you something as a detail, a souvenir broo 100%.
(A little shugo, nah joking) I'm serious💪

[oak nebula]

lmaooo got it mate

[lime badger]

No AT and Sin step, seems pure dmg build. I would rather go this build. Or signet silence for short term fight.

[verbal pier]

For citadel u need pure damage only. But signet seems good for phaistos seems it's half hp

I would even say that u dont need anymore at for phaistos because it will be way shorter

[lime badger]

Doesn't citadel boss inflict fire dmg? I think it's good to have AT to resist some skills, since my cleric is pure dps one 😅 venomous has long CD, and it's just a filler. But we can go many ways now, some ppl prefer dmg skills, others utilities. At least game allow us to mix it now 🙂

[verbal pier]

Tbh idk. It does fire damage but cleric will still aoe heal on each aoe. He doesnt have other choice. And yeah im not big fan of venomous but it is just something more that u can take. Also assassin step on this boss is not that useful. Cuz for safe zone during big aoe, it already has reflect so u cant use it on boss to be faster and greed some dmg

But ur stigmas are safer for sure

Maybe a bit too safe in 3.7 tbh

[safe charm]

glad to see dns is back baby

and chat here looking alive aswell

[midnight zenith]

Guys as an assasin i take pvp sword and a pve padma dagger right?

[lime badger]

Bis now is salvation dagger + 60 pvp sword for atk / crit
You can also go pvp dagger + salvation/ doomed sword.

[verbal pier]

dont take at, it's useless, u cant resist in citadel

neither evade

[lime badger]

Yeah I've tried it yday 😅

Does any1 know if it's possible to sell citadels loot?

[verbal pier]

No idea

[primal garden]

Super rough if we cant sell loot

Have to drop weapons ourselves

Gl with that

[lime badger]

@verbal pier how your party was positioned as yaksha? Have all faced boss, or you were staying in circle?

[verbal pier]

We all faces and stacked

But idk if it's the best to do tbh

[lime badger]

We did same, but it hit like a truck

[verbal pier]

And we were far from the boss to go fast for buff instead of staying close to him so i can go in back

Yeah man

It's insane

The chanter has to take support stigma

And cleric some heals + dps stigma

With how many buffs did u try?

[lime badger]

4

[verbal pier]

Ok yeah

Same than us then

I mean. I think that for 4 buffs, we lack a bit of gear to tank it

[lime badger]

But we fucked up with reflect, tbh we were learning a bit 😅 cleric was changing stigmas meanwhile etc

[verbal pier]

Cuz with cosmos gear, it's already the 3rd gear with pve def

[lime badger]

Yeah that %pve Def is needed

[verbal pier]

Yes

Without that, cleric cant dps

We didnt get any trouble with reflect

Only with repack on white circle

[lime badger]

We didn't know how it works 😂😂😂

[verbal pier]

I dont see the white circle

[lime badger]

I mean when it it's showing up

[verbal pier]

Ah shit

[lime badger]

We had nice dps (we were about to make 1 rank ez) but we all died coz, we weren't sure when reflect show up.

[verbal pier]

A rank seems easy to do if you manage to stay alive until the end

But staying alive with 4 buffs rn

Is kinda tricky

😂

[sullen pilot]

Don’t tank all aoe, one of them is frontal on the target only, the other is full aoe

Chanter doesn’t need to heal at all

All stack and the target just run through the boss

[lime badger]

Yeah, it is 😅

[verbal pier]

Ok good to know, thx for tips bro

Tbh, we tanked everything

But i promise, with 4 buffs there is no world where chanter doesnt heal

Without pve def i mean

[sullen pilot]

The problem with chanter healing is that it is all aoe the big damage, so is it even that useful?

[verbal pier]

Aa deals too many dmg

[sullen pilot]

Ofc recovery spell occasionally on the tank, but otherwise it just didn’t seem effective for me

[lime badger]

Aoe can be healed by cleric, those auto attacks are not so ez to survive if your tank is sin

[sullen pilot]

Ah yes that would make it harder xd

[verbal pier]

We had sorc as tank

Even worst

[sullen pilot]

On purpose??

[verbal pier]

Yes and no

[sullen pilot]

Absolutely insane

[verbal pier]

He has too much dps for us

I need new weap if i want to tank

And the thing is that the boss decast h24

• i got ported 3 times each try

[lime badger]

Chanter and SM can help with shields to survive double aoe

[verbal pier]

For buffs

Yeah. But recovery + word of protection are insane help too

And we used elemental def mantra

Boss was dealing 50% hp on aoe

[lime badger]

Without wop and Def mantra it deals like 70%+

[sullen pilot]

Our cleric was going down to 400 hp every big aoe they tanked lol

But once we only tanked the smaller aoe for the entire group, it is much easier except when the boss casts the aoe on itself

[verbal pier]

Yeah it seems better to do

[sullen pilot]

Just need to stand close to run through the boss on time, so kinda harder for doing the sigil etc

[verbal pier]

I think we will go under feet anyway this time and move when needed. So we can push the dps too

Actually u have got the time for sigil. But first one was bad 😂 now we are used to it. When i ported first time, i was so late hahaha i couldnt hit the buff

[sullen pilot]

Have you found that the sigil works every time? We had problems with certain classes where the sigil’s shield wasn’t removed

Seemed to work for the sin but not the revenant/sorc

[verbal pier]

Ah

We didnt get any trouble with that. But some of our players dont see all symbols on floor in boss room

[sullen pilot]

Do you call the sigil or the marked player waits a second to see it?

[verbal pier]

We called

Easier

I mean there are 4 symbols. We named each symbols and we go like that. We dont call colors

[sullen pilot]

Yeah, I just wasn’t sure if delaying a few seconds before teleporting was our problem or something

[verbal pier]

If you delay a bit too much you cant hit the buff btw

We had this at start

U need to be in the room with the debuff to be able to hit buffs

[lime badger]

I think you need to hit the correct sigil while having debuff. Otherwise you won't go through shield.

[verbal pier]

I think

Man. It always had 3s shield each time i went

That sucks

[sullen pilot]

Oh so when we had 2 people stuck in that room and the person who was there longer tried to help, that probably mucked it up

We were testing on alts and some couldn’t finish the sigil in time so got stuck

[verbal pier]

Wtf 😂

I dont want to go to jail

[sullen pilot]

It is stupid, and then you have to wait for extra sigils to escape without fighting and racing to the exit xd

[verbal pier]

Omg 😂

[mild coyote]

which manastone do i must put in my admiral weapons ?

[oak nebula]

use critical one imo

that allow u to still have ur critical cap on every switch u use

execpt for mb/macc set, ofc for this two you should do new weaps too to optimize it

[toxic ruin]

I personally run dagger full att +5, sword crit +17. PvP armor has one more part of crit +17 and the rest att +5 while the PvE full att +5 armor since the crit cap on PvE is way lower so the one weapon (sword) compensates enough

[lime badger]

Depends gear and weapons you use.
Imo it's better to socket attack into weapons, so you can use them in pve as well, since pve doesn't need so much crit as pvp gear. Crit needed for pvp socket into armor.

[toxic ruin]

Indeed, I agree with what he said even tho I made a mistake socketing crit in my sword. Never changed it tho since I'm going for new sword!

[frosty karma]

Hi, what is the best stigma tree for pvp ?

[toxic ruin]

Depends on play style and also if you are more group or solo.

Sin in general can be played in many different ways

[lime badger]

What is strike resist of Yaksha?

[icy dome]

150

[lime badger]

only?

[icy dome]

yeah its surprisngly low

[lime badger]

so 650 crit strike is enough o.O

[icy dome]

Same for Dokkaebi

[lime badger]

is it confirmed info, or rumors?:P

[grizzled current]

@lime badger

yaksha and dokkaebi are 650

[lime badger]

yeah, ive tested it yday

[grizzled current]

zantra snake arch seem to be 900 still

which is annoying xd

[lime badger]

48% crit with 660 crit strike

[grizzled current]

yaksha seems to have spell resist

[lime badger]

yeah, must have another ittems with crit ;/

[grizzled current]

i never crit runes

[grizzled current]

can easy fix it once we have pve dagger xd

can just use pvp chest

[lime badger]

i wish i could drop / buy this dagger xD

[grizzled current]

ye droprate is so ass

[lime badger]

sadly... friend of mine did 20 runs this week, 0 drop...

[grizzled current]

i guess its just zantra

ill just play pvp accs vs that and not pve i guess

snake i do pvp, dyad 5 kills and f off xd

[verbal pier]

Im finaly full attack +5 and still got the cap. I never been so low in crit since 2.7 haha

But yeah. Some ranks A, still no weap

[lime badger]

i guess 1st dagger will be sold for over 1b xD

so many ppl want it

[verbal pier]

Yeah... this weapon is needed for pvp too so yeah. With this it's insane up

I would really feel sad to get sword first tbh

Even if it's good for pve ofc but yeah

[lime badger]

I would be happy to get any weapon ^^

[grizzled current]

sword is gonna be my ma/mb weapon

not pve xd

dagger is the money

[patent kelp]

we drop it in 20 min

[verbal pier]

i want the dagger tbh

i'm bored from this shit admiral one

but yeah sword for pvp could be insane true

i don't have the kinah to buy the dagger anyway, i have to loot it

[grizzled current]

id prefer to loot it xDD

but well

[verbal pier]

if u get it first while i'm in same group i think my heart will break

and if i get it first i use it for macc set

[lime badger]

If I get it, I will send you a beautiful screenshot guys, so you can hate me more

[verbal pier]

Bro we are friends. Dont do it

[lime badger]

Don't worry I won't drop it 100% 😂

[frosty karma]

So 2 pvp weapons are useless for sin now ?

[lime badger]

Pvp attack doesn't stack anymore, so best set is pve dagger (burning salvation) + pvp admiral sword.

[frosty karma]

oh ok ty

[solemn atlas]

@grizzled current gzzz

[grizzled current]

ty xd

[lime badger]

Omfg 2.4b 😂

[lime badger]

Gz 🙂

[grizzled current]

haha ty

[solemn atlas]

@xenilla Gf mate💪 but fuk u resisted 3 times on 2.5k ma

[brazen shadow]

its insane how many ppl run with radar hack

[grizzled current]

@brazen shadowdid they see you go hide?

[brazen shadow]

pretty sure they didnt, mb in chat didnt see where they came from

[grizzled current]

did look like they came from winstream

i was porting away and got that whisper

[brazen shadow]

haha ye i saw u using scroll and was gonna jump them after u were gone

[grizzled current]

xD

[brazen shadow]

rip x)

[grizzled current]

sadge

[lime badger]

shamelss no anime sin Trafialny from asmo side

5 attacks in 0.5 second xD

[echo root]

Guys for how much you will buy the burning salvi dagger?

[lime badger]

Asmo side, I would pay 1.5kkk now 😅

[echo root]

I honestly think ely side next dagger will be around 1,5-2 😅

[lime badger]

Ely side has much more "donaters".
1st Ely side dagger 2.4b Checka
1st Asmo side dagger 1.3b Garza
Diff is huge 😅

[grizzled current]

i keep comfusing garca and galcia xd

[echo root]

Ye i think dagger need to drop like 5x before i can afford it 😂

[lime badger]

I'm Galcia, and I don't have it yet 😅

[grizzled current]

bisu payed 1.5, clueless dropped

[echo root]

Bisu has dagger already?

[grizzled current]

there is ilovenoobs with his 20 similar names

he wanted to pay 1.5+ too

[echo root]

But bruh just give me dagger.. 😂

[lime badger]

Everybody wants it, coz this weapon is a game changer.

[echo root]

I have 300kk rn 🌚

[grizzled current]

its insane

[echo root]

Nah tbh its not a big gamechanger, for good players yes it is

[grizzled current]

but you also payed to much for sword xd

[echo root]

But there are also much nonames who cant do shit and still paying their lives for that instead of work on weaving or anything else 😅

[echo root]

800kk is fine imo

[lime badger]

Dmg output diff is huge mate, it's like comparing tahabata dagger to abg

[grizzled current]

ye

[echo root]

Also i used admiral dagger so it was worth to me

[echo root]

Depense on what you used before, for me its like 8 atk but much crit if i am right

[grizzled current]

wut

its base att so ye

its alot

salv dagger + admiral sword is quite a bit better then admiral dagger salv sword

for both pvp and pve

admiral dagger can then be a mb weapon

only if you want to min max pve you would want salv sword enchanted

[lime badger]

I will get 45 atk in pve and 30 atk pvp. So it's big difference.

[echo root]

Iam going for pve only from now on 😂 so i will play double salv anyways

[grizzled current]

otherwise salv sword is just mb macc weapon

[primal garden]

get in line

[grizzled current]

i still want 2 salv swords but i dont have to rush it

[primal garden]

got 2bil for that retarded dagger

[grizzled current]

[primal garden]

too bad it hasn't dropped in weeks

but we saw 3 chainblades in 3 days

[echo root]

I see i need to pay that dagger in €

[grizzled current]

and ppl said im crazy for buying the 1st one...

[lime badger]

Im mad on myself I passed that dagger on asmo side... Could bid more 😅

[echo root]

The most disgusting is the bow... litterly 100 drops already

[grizzled current]

ill prob get a bow at some point but no rush

[lime badger]

Asmo rangers are waiting for that bow, it will go like 2b I guess.

[echo root]

If they drop like they did in first 2 weeks bow will soon be on 100kk 🌚

[grizzled current]

who else is on asmo that could bid now? alii maybe

idk how much delict would pay

[lime badger]

Alli, Wassermelone (this guy is pve freak +15 aeon gear 😅), Aeoiqw

[echo root]

Isnt +14 enough for next patch? 😂

[echo root]

Tbh if you read this its broken but if u read the skill changes its almost nothing 😅

[primal garden]

who's gonna play next patch anyways

[grizzled current]

this weeks sin changes in kr are a complete meme

[primal garden]

nah, you can't call that a meme

they're just awful and destructive

goes well beyond meme

fucking koreans

[lime badger]

They make aion classic mobile game, but why they still call it classic 😅

[primal garden]

thet want to kill the game

fucking joke

le'ts hope gf does something

if not then noone will play this garbage excuse of a game

[echo root]

Isnt it called Aion2?

[primal garden]

that's gonna be shit as well but we're talking about the classic changes

[solemn atlas]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxA6cQN2-q0&t=232s&ab_channel=탱커킹
🥴 🤢

[verbal pier]

2b cuz i lost faith in looting it

[echo root]

What about u just give me 2b?

[verbal pier]

No

[echo root]

Worth a try

[verbal pier]

Who never try doesnt get anything

[grizzled current]

😂

sad that droprates are so ass

[echo root]

You can only win the jackpot when u play lottery

[verbal pier]

Man idk. 50 runs, 2 weap

Nothing else

This dungeon is shit

Fr

[grizzled current]

we only saw book so far 😂

[verbal pier]

Nice. One of the worst 😂

[grizzled current]

im glad i bought dagger and the extends

seeing how non of those popped up since 1st 2 weeks

[echo root]

I droped bow, 2x chainblades, orb, sword, some shields and pole

Still poor af

[verbal pier]

Fr. Im waiting with hope for dagger

[primal garden]

ye

meme instance

they could make a double drop event

like come on

some weapons just don't seem to drop

meanwhile 3 chainblades in 3 days

[echo root]

Like i said u almost see each day 1 bow on ely side 😅

But what the hell is a dagger? 🌚

[echo root]

10k dps inc with dagger and new gear

[primal garden]

joke drops

fucking hell

[verbal pier]

That's my goal. For 10k i think u need sword aswell

[grizzled current]

and a good time

im way to inconsistant to get that high anyway

[echo root]

I think 10k is easy tbh

Just need to get that new gear its just a lot new gear you need

[grizzled current]

funny enough on siege im up there

while having dogpc

[echo root]

Full mb new set + new accs and atk set also + 2 weaps

[grizzled current]

but on yaksha it feels similarly laggy

[echo root]

What siege ur up? 😂

[grizzled current]

im usually somewhere in the top on glek boss