Sin master race general

[blissful harbor]

i had thatshit happend and i could not use some skills xD but i had toggle repeat🤣

[rocky cloak]

iirc its fps related, its easier to autohit with low fps c:

nevermind, it was smth else*

[blissful harbor]

never know! xD

[rocky cloak]

fps matter indeed when it comes to autohits

[blissful harbor]

over 9000

[rocky cloak]

but we tested it like 10 years ago, i cant really remember

someone had that issue that he couldnt autohit while moving, using the 10% attack bonus

but ye.. i cant tell anymore :D

[cyan lichen]

hello

im new to the game can anyone recommend me stigmas to get for assasin

pve and pvp ( mainly pve )

[verbal pier]

for pve https://stigma-build.fun/calculator/assassin/c07cde09-db59-4076-aa0c-3e39fc783780

for pvp https://stigma-build.fun/calculator/assassin/5bceed3a-58df-41e6-9456-36bb2b58fc03, but u can still change 1 or 2 stigma in pvp

[ancient gate]

I'd take shadow walk instead of lightning slash

[random nova]

i think blind for pve is good, who needs venomous strike vs bosses

[ancient gate]

Apply lethal Venom is quite good in pve

Especially now because chanters put magic mantra

[primal garden]

What do you use it on though?

Bosses immune to stun

Wait

Venom is the extra damage one right?

[verbal pier]

Yeah, i took an overall one wich is pretty good in every situations

[ancient gate]

20% magic dmg

[verbal pier]

Depends if they do or not and depends of your food/candy. If they use and if u have enough accuracy to hit bosses without any accuracy on food and candy you can even play with fine focus agent and get 60 more mboost

[primal garden]

I use the same as faramys but with lightning slash

[verbal pier]

and with candy 15 more

[primal garden]

Lazy to buy agony

[verbal pier]

i did and i didnt like it hahaha

damage are not bad, but kinda boring to use

[blissful harbor]

focus agent is pve, and that other food 60ma 12 atk pvp idk its name

[ancient gate]

Problem is that apply lethal Venom is not shown on dps meter

That's my concern

[verbal pier]

same

[ancient gate]

But it does quite good dmg

[primal garden]

Well only matters if youre pushing

[ancient gate]

(work with bow for aphzta siège)

[verbal pier]

ah

[blissful harbor]

avg uptime with totalt % dmg done with lethal is to bad to even consider tbh

[primal garden]

If your concern is just killing boss then its fine

I should buy agony though, i always have some sorcs on my team

[verbal pier]

it will be more worth next patch with meta stigma

[primal garden]

Pvp i really wanted to slot lightning for easy covers

But shadow walk too good

Maybe ill drop sensory, dont really have evasion or mr sets to make the most of it

[blissful harbor]

only shit we swap is deadly poison for explosive burst in pvp atleast imo

[primal garden]

Burst for pve is shit though

[blissful harbor]

i would rather take beastly scare + agonziing then without needing shit behind xD

[primal garden]

You prob get more value from venum

[primal garden]

Same

Meta stigmas will be fun

Sin is so restricted by stigmas

[verbal pier]

Oh yeah in pvp our build wont really change except for that

[primal garden]

Wish we could fit venom strike for pvp

[blissful harbor]

this could be a gucci pve build xD

[primal garden]

No shadow walk 💀

[blissful harbor]

or swap lethal for agony? i have no idea if that shit even hurt tbh

[primal garden]

I think its actually almost same power as lightning?

Dont remember

[random nova]

https://myaion.eu/Player/6204476

[grizzled current]

the 65 pve accs are insane

[primal garden]

Those earrings bro

3.7 per piece

[blissful harbor]

• ele res on agonizing

[primal garden]

Ye but your statement made it seem solely based on the power of the attack

The value from ele res is crazy

[blissful harbor]

xD

[blissful harbor]

dam yea doom actrually crazy dmg

forgot it 30 sec + does dmg even if it not stumble the target

shits need to be poisoned tho xD

[random nova]

should be tested, because koreans arent always the best

[blissful harbor]

stupid some pve mobs cant be poisoned

specially with ass ass ination doing insane dmg with it

[random nova]

assassination will crit for 10k with good gear

[blissful harbor]

ye

[cyan lichen]

ty

[blissful harbor]

100% using it with ke XD

[primal garden]

Bosses should be able to be poisoned

[verbal pier]

Agony does good damage but u cant move while using it. That's the only "bad" point of it

[random nova]

you can

they fixxed that this patch

[verbal pier]

Not agonising, agony rune

Or i missed something and i have to try it again but im pretty sure that u couldnt move with it a few weeks ago

[random nova]

why would you use that rune

[verbal pier]

In pve. Instead of blind

Blind is still good in pve but in average dungeons it's pretty useless

[ancient gate]

Also build is quite different for siege

Runes are useless

[verbal pier]

I let my sorc carry me

Idc

[ancient gate]

I only use sorc for agent

Rest you have rank 1 alone

[verbal pier]

True

Im just too lazy to make some builds for apheta

[ancient gate]

I'll tell you what you need for apheta

[primal garden]

I always bow in siege 😂

I get close, insta pull

Can barely touch boss

[ancient gate]

take your pvp stigma -> you just change for deathly and apply lethal venom (keep shadow walk in case you die and kisk is gone)

Your chanter perma buffs you with inspiration word (not sure this is the correct name in english)

auto attack with bow

[primal garden]

Xd

Thats what i do then

[ancient gate]

Before we had the opportunity to dps with extend weapon

[verbal pier]

Throw dagger with deadly focus

[ancient gate]

Nah don't waste deadly focus

Elyos use the artifact

I'm shit with english name but they do dmg and stun asmo

Then you have ~15s to dps

[primal garden]

@ancient gate whats your average rank in siege

[ancient gate]

For asmo sin this is completely different tho

[random nova]

3k dmg that shit and you need to be on mb set whole time

[ancient gate]

1

[random nova]

not worth at all that stigma

[primal garden]

Damn nice

You got a proper bow?

[ancient gate]

+10 tac with tahabata

[primal garden]

You go in group or alliance?

[ancient gate]

alone with chanter alt

[primal garden]

Ah, dual client

[verbal pier]

It is

[primal garden]

Ye i go alli

[ancient gate]

Also gates are important

[primal garden]

Sometimes we dont even have chant

[ancient gate]

They give you ~1k ap + siege boss you have rank 1 for sure

[icy dome]

@verbal pier Ure that Taha sin that competes with Timbo for #1 on Tower, right?

[verbal pier]

Yep

[icy dome]

Yeah aight then, quite easy to trust what ure saying, about stigmas especially with that time 😂

[ancient gate]

Well tower is about cd and knowledge

[icy dome]

Having nearly 8 mins left on the clock aint just about cd's XDD

[ancient gate]

I'm an idiot, I still can't figure how to pass last stage

[icy dome]

There's alot mroe shit involved there

[ancient gate]

It is actually

[verbal pier]

Last stage is quite hard

[ancient gate]

You have to know when to keep or use flurry, slayer form

and so on

[verbal pier]

Boss deals too much damage

I think that sin has one of the hardest tower in all classes

And if u want a good timer, everything depends of the first boss, if u take the second aoe or not

[ancient gate]

When mobs don't take cc, it's kinda hard

[verbal pier]

@ancient gate u can still wait after jotun before going last boss to be full life and you kill it easy. I usually go midlife on this boss

• life crystal instead of ap pot

[primal garden]

Im currently stuck on the double titan boss

[ancient gate]

I'm not trying it anymore, it bores me

[primal garden]

Havent fought him much yet

[ancient gate]

Doing x3 per week takes too much time

[primal garden]

So may get the gist of it

[icy dome]

less than 1h per week is "too much time"??

hell ill give u a bit more than 1h if u wanna pre farm 4k DP as well

[ancient gate]

for me it is

[primal garden]

My first attempt for that floor was my best, would have cleared if i knew the boss spawns again xd

[icy dome]

Then ure playing the wrong genre of games m8

MMOS aint for u if 1h per week is too much time

[ancient gate]

Alright

If you have anything to add in sin chanel, i'm listening

[primal garden]

Its not about the 1h per week, its about in game priorities with the time you have

[verbal pier]

I think i keep like 5 or 6h a week for tower because i go at same time that some mates and it can take whole afternoon/evening

[ancient gate]

The problem with aion is that you're like doing things for nothing

Rewards are shit

in arena, in illusion tower, in pve

everywhere

you're kinda doing things for nothing

[primal garden]

Ye, pve doesnt have many rewards except wol and phaistos

Those are the only ones i do nowadays

[blissful harbor]

i usually lucky critting that fker so he does not willey me at all or max 1 time x)

[ancient gate]

So yeah, doing x3 illusion tower to have 80 enchant stone

I'll pass

[blissful harbor]

but been doint 100% blind when i can so only slowly made it to 10🤣

[primal garden]

Same, sometimes 0, sometimes 1

[blissful harbor]

that shit that does invisibör aoes not fun visual bug

lvl 4 or something

[primal garden]

He's the guy that i get stuck on the most

[blissful harbor]

took me a few times on it to understand 🤣

[primal garden]

I get to 12 consistently

Sometimes floor 4 cucks me

[verbal pier]

The worst one is when he starts casting the spell and u kill it when spell is at 25% but u still get the damage

[blissful harbor]

i havent run that shit for a while

[primal garden]

I like tower so i do it

But ye, lack of time is an issue

[blissful harbor]

whats bs is not able to resist the willy🤣

would been great

then

[ancient gate]

Keep assassin's step

and flash of speed

otherwise be prepared to move

put all effects on

[primal garden]

Floor 4 is actually bugged, regardless of effects

[ancient gate]

is it the spaller ?

When he does his corrupt shit move 0.5s after cast is done

[primal garden]

Ye

[primal garden]

But when he starts or finishes the cast?

[ancient gate]

finish

let me find the gif

[primal garden]

Ok

When he finishes, move a bit

[blissful harbor]

i just casuslly run that now for powershards xD

never had this good supply of pshards

[primal garden]

Ye but i waste shards so fast xd

[blissful harbor]

have like 70k x 30 dmg and 25k x 35dmg

[primal garden]

Do you not use shards?

[blissful harbor]

i do

last week i popped 20k🤣

[ancient gate]

@primal garden

[blissful harbor]

yea we know that, but those visual things does not show on out client🤣

[ancient gate]

Yes

This is why you need to move within ~1s after cast is done

[blissful harbor]

just random pve, idc xD

only pve i would mind is upcoming for extendys and salvation

[primal garden]

Will try to do that

[primal garden]

I cant save power shards at all

I was only using arenas, wol and phaistos

And i stopped doing arenas for a bit now

Still cant save

Oh and tower ofc

[blissful harbor]

pheistos is insane shard dump xD

i mostly only usem in pvp tbh

[primal garden]

Ye

But phaistos is hard so wanna maximize dps

Prob dont need to use shards for wol though

[lime badger]

I'm also curious, coz without jumping my char stops when I press skill during AA animation.

[safe charm]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ch0cuRHc99I&t=373s&ab_channel=Hanfkrokette

spam c or spam mouse key if u binded it as autoattack

otherwise to hold key bind from mouse to c

[cyan lichen]

guys where can i get aethertwisting and assasin step

and is anyone free for a min to show me something 🙂

@verbal pier are u free for 5 mins i need some help arranging and understanding my skills

[blissful harbor]

broker and quna broker, asassin step u can also do tiamat when u good geared

[lime badger]

Lol man it's not a weaving while chaisiing, it's just a spamming aa, to chase a target and use aa on it.
If you want to weave while running you must jump>release w>press aa button>skill.
If you want to do it on the ground, you can skip jump, but you must have like 10ms ping and super fast fingers.
You can't just spam aa button and use skills at once, coz you char will.stop in place for 1 second and you will lose your target.. Ofc. As long as you don't use any cheats / scripts.

[blissful harbor]

if u good tracking manually its nice and u able to hit while moving

auto approach good sharp turns

[verbal pier]

Sure

[lime badger]

I was talking about weaving while chasing, no pressing auto attack to auto approach target omfg...

[ancient gate]

You have to train hard to only press auto attack when you're in range otherwise you won't be able to auto attack for like a second

[cyan lichen]

message me anytime ur free

[blissful harbor]

read msg above that, why jump and scream soon u find something not fitting? every one have diffrent experience based on ping in this old game

and chasing use atk key and auto approach is nice if target blinks and reselect and sharp turn

[lime badger]

No offense @blissful harbor but all the time in every topic here, you're trying to pretend to be an expert, but you're really bad sin, both pve and pvp... So please stop. Thank you in advance 😉

[ancient gate]

Well he's free to share his opinion, you don't have to be good to be able to think

[lime badger]

Ofc he is, but It's a bit annoying when someone who doesn't really know what he is talking about wants to give advice.

[ancient gate]

I'm not gonna lie, I'm not sure I understood your question as well

I did answer but was it really what you asked ? I'm not even sure

Eric does know quite a lot about sin, wether he's good or not he has some knowledge

[lime badger]

Somebody here asked about weaving while chasing, without jumping. Eric was trying to tell him, all he has to do is clicking auto attack.

Its definitely not...

[ancient gate]

Well it's the right answer but it lacks details

xd

[lime badger]

That's why I explained how waving while moving works.

But he still claims it's just about ping and pressing aa button 😂

I'm allergic to such nonsense 😅

[ancient gate]

I'm not even sure someone knows what is Eric's name in game 👀

Besides me

[lime badger]

He typed his nick here couple of times... He is way below average Sin...

[ancient gate]

PvP idk

But for pve, with his myaion's page you can't tell wether he's good or not

[lime badger]

It's hard to don't do average pve dps as sin 😅

All you have to do its weaving with 5 skills 😎

Even monkey can do it

[ancient gate]

That was the case in 1.9

But weaving after each skill is a common mistake

[lime badger]

What's your in game nick? Can I check you myaion profile? 🙂

[ancient gate]

Feel free

https://myaion.eu/Player/6500892

[lime badger]

Ohhh that's you 😄

[ancient gate]

yeah, idk what's your in game name is though 👺

[lime badger]

Galcia

[ancient gate]

Aah the asmo sin yeah

I remember you

Well I won't say anything about your dps xd

[lime badger]

Why?

[ancient gate]

Because it's good

[lime badger]

Feel free 🙂

[ancient gate]

Nah, I wanna see my dps with pve buff tho

Never had the chance to do it

Then I can compare myself with other sins

[lime badger]

10% pve buff makes diff

[ancient gate]

My ass is too lazy to get +13 SW

[lime badger]

I wish I could get 5% buff and overdps Faramys in wall of lament 😁 even without sorc in party

[verbal pier]

go +15 weap

[ancient gate]

Fridge is empty sir

[verbal pier]

u already did really well bro

[ancient gate]

the max you can get rn is not 5%, is it ?

2.2% belt, 2% rings

10% pve buff

[verbal pier]

5% from siege

[ancient gate]

Aah the artifact buff ?

[verbal pier]

yeah

[ancient gate]

Oh yes I forgot

[verbal pier]

and i have got 1.5 from legion

[lime badger]

Thanks, do you have 2.2% belt?

[verbal pier]

yes

[ancient gate]

It's not for us 😢

[lime badger]

I do not, maybe some day I will get it.

[verbal pier]

tbh it's so broken that i even use it for mboost set

i do better damage than with mboost belt

[ancient gate]

Too hard to actually get this shitty belt

[lime badger]

Actually yday my party got veiles loot. But my friend ranger got the belt.

[ancient gate]

You have to loot masta/veil, so being in the best alliance as a sin

gl

[verbal pier]

on tahab that was easy af, we got the boss for the legion since 8 month in a row

we all got it

[lime badger]

I've been :p

[ancient gate]

Can this be exchanged in quna broker ?

[verbal pier]

nope

[ancient gate]

Oh they took a sin with them ?

[lime badger]

Jelly... On Atreia is hard af.

[ancient gate]

They don't even consider taking me 😦

[blissful harbor]

why go again and go personal? are u some kind of bully?

this game is extremly ping dependant

[ancient gate]

unless you're chanter, sorc or cleric

[lime badger]

I just don't like you bullshit theories, it's not personal mate 😗

[blissful harbor]

Elaborate where this is bullshit, pls

[verbal pier]

it doesnt change everything but 2.2% is still 2.2%, it matters haha

[ancient gate]

Nah Eric gotta be the kindest person on this discord

[blissful harbor]

because i NEVER sated i was good or said ITS THIS WAY BRO

[lime badger]

@verbal pier Actually it's 2.2%+5%, so it's much

[verbal pier]

ohhhh i actually didnt see it, that's even better

[blissful harbor]

i was good, but being away 10 years and not do even pservers means u fall behind alot. into casual no pve grind means i have no means to even try to be serious in anyway or form in pve parsing

[ancient gate]

But maybe we could get a better belt with upcoming patches ? I know for sure there will be a pve necklace, but maybe belt as well ?

[verbal pier]

in 4.0 only

[blissful harbor]

next pve belt is L65

[verbal pier]

masta belt is the best until l65

[ancient gate]

Ah ok

[lime badger]

Yeah, I think I could do like 4.8 in WoL with extra 7.2% and luck with crits 😄

[verbal pier]

it's probably reachable but really hard still

[lime badger]

I did almost 4.4 without it.

With it it could be 4.7

So it's possible 🙂

[ancient gate]

Yeah me too

[verbal pier]

then i need to do more so we challenge ourselves

[lime badger]

Go ahead, you will rise my goal 🙂

[blissful harbor]

your barking does not fall long from the tree? even if u parse good u seem not to be humble outside top 5 opinions? still waiting for you elaborate

[verbal pier]

fr u have the dps for it too even without 7.2

[ancient gate]

@blissful harbor help me getting alukina's sword sir

[verbal pier]

7.2% is still insane diff

[ancient gate]

I spent fucking 480kk for a dagger I'm not even using 👺

[blissful harbor]

thb i tried since i rerolled to elyos since 2.4, ppl dont wana do that shit it seems

[ancient gate]

Alukina is kinda hard to do tho

[lime badger]

Currently my premade chanter has problem with arm, so I won't try any dps runs, but when he will come back. You will feel my breath on your neck 😂

[verbal pier]

wich one?

[ancient gate]

irukhara

[verbal pier]

ah 😂

[blissful harbor]

yea but u can abuse and do it , problem is getting disturbed back then xD

well atleast L58 have 19% atkspeed

sword

[verbal pier]

Hahahaha 😂

[ancient gate]

Now it's gotta be easy to do, right ?

You just need to find people that are willing to waste time

With a shitty drop rate

I've heard drop rate is way too low on gold weapons

[blissful harbor]

tbh swiping a bit and quna trade it over? as u prob need to make asmo xD

[blissful harbor]

iinsane

[ancient gate]

Risky + you need at least 2-3 people to kill her

[blissful harbor]

make a L50 in 50e

[ancient gate]

I'm not even sure it's worth farming her considering the new extend sword

[blissful harbor]

yea i rather take my money on that

d/s L58 prob gona be least expensive anyway( even if price is unknown)

[ancient gate]

But I'm not gonna lie, I do hit quite high with irukhara's dagger

I'm surprised

[blissful harbor]

i mean u prob drop ~20% dmg? or something

[ancient gate]

Yeah Triroan is shit

And 15% atk speed

That's my concern

Wait I'll log and show you the atk I'm losing by using extend

gbg dagger +13

Irukhara +13

[blissful harbor]

@lime badger still waiting for you to elaborate what u mean by bullshit

[lime badger]

I won't explain it 3rd time, so just forget.

[blissful harbor]

17.8%

[ancient gate]

yeah ngl by changing triroan's dagger to irukhara, dmg increased quite a lot

[blissful harbor]

third time? im waiting since u stated it, better humble yourself of your high horse. next time be more specific rather then shouting back because u cant explain

[blissful harbor]

i bet, trio is basically grogget base weap stats🤣

[ancient gate]

Trio and lannok have lvl 45 gold weap stats

So almost like grogget

[blissful harbor]

yea basically that🤣

btw i named changed due to not wana be named penis🤣 so u prob dont know my name still @ancient gate

[ancient gate]

I do

I recognized your char's skiin

[blissful harbor]

oh haha xD

[blissful harbor]

btw what boss is it?

[ancient gate]

Unlucky Samael

I stopped trying to reach #1 I'm missing so much things

[blissful harbor]

thata wol right?

[ancient gate]

yes

[blissful harbor]

reaching top 3 is a group effort anyway, need 5 other parse ppl

[ancient gate]

right

[blissful harbor]

5 vs 4 minutes killtimer 1th vs 2nd

thats alot🤣

and only 300 dps diff

[blissful harbor]

u run full group when trying to climb placing?

[ancient gate]

No I take random people in LFG

I don't care

[blissful harbor]

xD

i prob start do pve in salvation tbf

[lime badger]

Faramys Group has crazy dps 🙂

[blissful harbor]

if u have same total dmg in his time

u do more dps then him x)

one thing i hate about any type of parsing, shits need perfect cheese to really min max top
and if ppl can, they will have best comp for it

if we get 4.0 with lumines as it is, comps gona get destroyed🤣

[lime badger]

My team is not perf comp for dps, we have cleric instead sorc 😜

But this cleric plays next to me (gf) so I won't replace her 😅

[blissful harbor]

parsing come to a point where its comfortable to squeeze

and then there is the maniacs that min/max

[blissful harbor]

personally i like parsing for comparing your groups effort. Outside that it just feed toxic behaviour in discussion due to certain status

finding group to fit my schedule for potenial pve is low x)

[verbal pier]

with sorc but without sm on tiamat

it has decent damage

but lower than i was thinking

[lime badger]

You use it it pve rn? What's build, I'm curious 🙂

[verbal pier]

https://stigma-build.fun/calculator/assassin/04ac5376-3bd2-435e-87d3-ca1404f7a89c i used this

[blissful harbor]

1% total dmg?:p

[verbal pier]

yeah ok it's not bad without sm but still, too low hahaha

[blissful harbor]

🤣

i wonder how explo burst is

never used it, how it do with mb

[verbal pier]

Idk. I never used it

[rocky cloak]

less damage with double cooldown

seems good

[verbal pier]

It will be only used in pvp anyway

[ancient gate]

You should try apply lethal venom

I don't go pve without it

[rocky cloak]

but it doesnt count.. whats the point :c

[verbal pier]

Yes but its not on myaion and cant feed the ego

😦

[ancient gate]

ah xd

[verbal pier]

And once boss will have msup it will be useless again

[blissful harbor]

lol yea msup on boss does not make sense xD

if they do get msup, u gona get so much. on pvp gear u can just delete mb set🤣

[verbal pier]

U will. But i already use more often macc gear than mboost in pvp

Just because there is too much rng

[blissful harbor]

chain is auto ma, if i know its gg its also ma xD

prob will do pvp dag +pve sword mb, not getting both ma setups

we already do enough dmg phys x) mb mostly only nice for blood rune

would be nice if explo burst can be in mb and decen dmg

think it has like +300ma internally

[verbal pier]

I have no idea tbh

[blissful harbor]

if my memory serves me right from hidden value sheet🤣

[blissful harbor]

rip it was 200

would been ok if this was on silence too👀

[verbal pier]

Yeah... anyway 200 is not that bad

[blissful harbor]

942 base dmg for explosive burst is a bit low , still decent i guess

[cyan lichen]

@verbal pier are u free abit now ?

@blissful harbor if ur free abit too i need some help arranging my skills

[blissful harbor]

arranging? how u mean 😀

[cyan lichen]

learning my combos and rune carves the right way

what to use when etc

[blissful harbor]

rotation and shit pve im not a guy to ask, barely do that anymore

thats the thing in pvp for sin, they basicallt dont have a specific rotation

[cyan lichen]

tbh i dont even know what to combo skills which runes to use etc

there is too much

[blissful harbor]

im more of a learn by experience rotation, so im very bad to ask in pvp, could change from fight to fight

generally speaking u wana 5 rune pop in pve

[cyan lichen]

umm not just even the bassics

[verbal pier]

Rn im going to work but tommorow i can take some time

[blissful harbor]

and 3 for pvp minimum( more then 3 just more dmg)

[cyan lichen]

okey gl

[cyan lichen]

but the only skills i have now that carves 5 is

fang strike combo

so there is only 1 basically

[blissful harbor]

rune carve + sigil carves up to 3 carves

fang strike chain can carve up to 5

so if u carve 5 u wana start with rune carve + sigil atleast

[cyan lichen]

i removed sigil stigma

used the stigma link up there

[blissful harbor]

yea u get that regular skill L60

[cyan lichen]

where

the gold stat ?

[blissful harbor]

yea

i think

[cyan lichen]

what do i get from those

[blissful harbor]

everything 😂

[cyan lichen]

price friendly ? haha

https://tenor.com/view/nubcat-nub-cat-i-don't-get-it-ow-gif-2618943257370075122

[blissful harbor]

no 🤣

i could look so u only buy highest rank

[cyan lichen]

this will hurt

[blissful harbor]

if there multiple ones

[cyan lichen]

i looked there are no

i bought them

[blissful harbor]

xD ye it hurts

[cyan lichen]

ill go cry haha

[random nova]

Hes lost to like 5 sins in the past month as a templar, so i understand that he is in here hating

[icy dome]

Gosh i rly live rent free in ur head, huh?

kinda sad ngl

https://tenor.com/view/lets-party-snoop-snoop-dogg-dance-dancing-gif-10839279

[cyan lichen]

@verbal pier dont forget message when ur free xp

[blissful harbor]

maby we should take rent for hanging out in sin master race as a templar🥸

[spark forum]

I got 8 Mithril for using my bow and Autoattack the Boss.....0.o

This System is stupid

[blissful harbor]

xD

[worldly spear]

i got 4... i killed 10-15 elys solo

[blissful harbor]

wth daily bugged stil event? xD

cant even finnish daily

nvm read the news xD

[worldly spear]

where

[blissful harbor]

its canceled i heard?

announcment later for it

[grizzled current]

ye boss and gate ap always gave more contribution then pvp ap

[random nova]

I have a question about PvE gear. First, for my PvE gear to run the latest instances, should I go full Attack or add some Physical Crit?

And for PvP gear, an Assassin messaged me saying that I should only stack Attack. Is that true?

[blissful harbor]

vs good geared ppl in pvp

~900 crit, rest atk socketed on atk set

ma set

pve most run full atk

specially if u have good pve accs and weaps with crit on

[random nova]

Ok i see can i check your gear ?

[blissful harbor]

that could depend on whats registered last in myaion x)

[worldly spear]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/_l3zry14QEI

[random nova]

What s your name ig

[ancient gate]

Ecraze

Go for ~850 crit

rest atk

simple

[random nova]

Ah ouais chaud 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣

[ancient gate]

?

[ancient gate]

https://youtu.be/PYwQ-txhhGs

I'll let you guys judge the video for those didn't see

[primal garden]

what the fuck

[primal garden]

i hate spaller

i can't be consistent vs this guy

sometimes it's easy

other times it just kills me

doign the same strat

[verbal pier]

bro

[ancient gate]

Don't be static

Keep moving

[verbal pier]

when boss does sign of corruption, u need to count 2 seconds, then u move

and u only have to do this until he dies, it's pretty easy

[primal garden]

i'll count 2 sec then

[verbal pier]

and never stay in front of it too, always on sides when u move

[primal garden]

ye

that's what i do

always to side

[worldly spear]

https://youtu.be/p3qpRpHPMws?si=Uj1U4NDCB-TehG8Z

https://youtu.be/GLryXUfm1uI?si=KL0usmijiH1YgWMQ

😂😂😂

[tough portal]

guys can gladiators remove massacre/obliteration slow without using heal pot?

[grizzled current]

yes its a slow

so they can use wings

[tough portal]

so basically theres no way to put slow on gladis?

[grizzled current]

isnt it a 5 min cd for glad

[tough portal]

yeah but in a duel i mean

[grizzled current]

its 3 min cd

you can do it after silence cover for example

[tough portal]

myeah...

i wrote you checka in dm like 1-2 weeks can you answer pls? xd

or wait if you silence him he cannot use this wings skill right?

[grizzled current]

ye

i didnt rly understand your question in the dm

just jump

or press auto attack when in range

[ancient gate]

Silence -> slow -> blind

[rocky cloak]

greater healing pot -> charge

[blissful harbor]

charge does not remove the slow? rather it puts u on max movespeed nomatter what debuff u have? atleast thats what i remember 🤣

[blissful harbor]

throw dagger ~> beast -> ke -> pain ~> ambush is my usual opener x) and mostly i have ~75% of hitting atleast 1 stun after UD xD

[ancient gate]

Usually glads/templar will just run away when silenced

[blissful harbor]

i never silence xD if a gladi sits out a stun he dead

[ancient gate]

Those who don't will be cover blind

[blissful harbor]

i just all in stun cc dmg x) they die really fast if u can somehow stun trough Ud or just lucky him 1 para

bur obviously not if he pops second wind, wall of steel + ud, i usually back off

back of in full evasion gear🫣

[rocky cloak]

the healing pot removes the slow

and charge lasts as long as the blind

[blissful harbor]

true but if he pots it

i gladly let him charge

i have silence and other blinds xD

[rocky cloak]

you said silence > slow > blind

in that case he is dead if he doesnt pot

depending on his active buffs though

but usually i'd be surprised if sin wins vs glad in duels. im not a good sin though

at least with my hands you cant be fast enough to win without rng

(but i havent had duels vs shaiza-like glads for a very long time, maybe things changed)

[blissful harbor]

yea good sin most likely win in duels vs glad

u can 75% stun him trough UD

but if he pops steel wall + secondwind wity UD he gona be a bit tanky

[rocky cloak]

you dont kill a glad in one stun though

[ancient gate]

let's say we're in OW, not duel

[blissful harbor]

@warped raptor is it possible? i know we talked a little about gladi weak if u manage to stun glad in UD?

[ancient gate]

Glad will pop UD first

So you will probably waste killer's eye to get one stun

Which will be useless with his RS

Besides cover blind, what do you do ? xd

[blissful harbor]

throw dagger and hopefully time shadowfall with rs ~> beast -> dmg -> ke -> pain ~> ambush and hopefully more stun there to continue dmg

with devotion/deadly up he most likely dead there

[rocky cloak]

"hopefully"

[blissful harbor]

yea its 75% chance xD

[ancient gate]

Even if you stun him through UD you won't get your shadowfall

[rocky cloak]

in duels its like 0%

[ancient gate]

It's good just if RS is in cooldown

[blissful harbor]

if u open throw dagger into shadowfall from hide

u can catch rs in it

a bit rng but u can

[ancient gate]

Won't happen in duel

[blissful harbor]

yea thats why most thinks ud is a no in duels

[ancient gate]

OW yes

The rule for sin vs glad is that

You don't pop UD until RS has been used

[rocky cloak]

glad is prepared in duels, you cant just magically surprise him out of hide

[blissful harbor]

best bet is prob just 100% pump first inc duel/arena like this

https://youtu.be/8yztqilvtKc?si=6OMTUk27qlzZeu8i

[ancient gate]

I don't like to prove a point in kr

They're not playing like us

[blissful harbor]

no xD

[ancient gate]

By that I mean they don't have the problem we do

[blissful harbor]

but still prob first bet i would to tbf

specially later in 4.0 with cancer 2k ud

[ancient gate]

In arena you have to make a choice

Either you take the risk and fight glad through UD

Or you can wait til it's gone, a bit long

COnsidering it will be up again in 1:30

[blissful harbor]

prob more usefull poppint darknes rune too vs gld then due to UD getting atkspeed 2k resist…. meaning we cant silence if not signet

strengthen wings also big risk radiant get resistee if he pops it

[ancient gate]

Radiant has always been more useful than the shitty asmo's version

In every match up that is

They still added the blind part in classic

But even with it I find it shit

[blissful harbor]

yea but now its same dmg + 50% blind, could be better later, now that ud gives 2k atkspeed resist

[ancient gate]

aah it gives atk speed resist ? I didn't know

[blissful harbor]

specially when storm also blinds

[blissful harbor]

even UD rank 1 gives 1k🤣

[rocky cloak]

reduce speed = movement

[ancient gate]

ah it's movement as he said yes

not atk speed

[icy dome]

In 4,0 it will

not rn

[blissful harbor]

yea good point, i totally fumbled there🤣

[icy dome]

Makes oblitaration useless tho if used on it

[blissful harbor]

u shure? i tought i also read it, but somehow our document says other

[rocky cloak]

i mean.. thats not good already :D

[icy dome]

It will never land

[rocky cloak]

ye rip massacre

[blissful harbor]

it will land, just not debuff

still carves 5 runes

[icy dome]

Same as if u try to use it on Templar with orange stance atm

It will not land

[blissful harbor]

u dont resist the dmg, just poison+ movespeed slow

or? would not make sense to resist the dmg?

[icy dome]

Thought we were talking about the debuff for covering blind, no?

so its the debuff that matters

[blissful harbor]

true

but 4.0 shits gona be huge due to 5 rune carves

poison/slow is bonus and barely useable

we have 4 stuff to cover with

ls/as, poison, massacre

it u dont wana waste blind to cover silence

and massacre is basically dogshit covering mostly

[icy dome]

not like ull have anyone to cover with in 4.0

all ull have is gonna be 50 lumi players

[rocky cloak]

4.0 is tooooo different to tell what will or wont work

also i hope i will be smart enough to not play anymore at this point, so i dont get mad at those 50 lumines :D

[icy dome]

Can already tell taht most ppl will quit and the remaining ones will reroll to the op classes (mostly lumi)

[ancient gate]

That is the way

I'm already on that mood

[blissful harbor]

NO

play xD

[blissful harbor]

indeed, i only see it as good tool in our current box x)

[blissful harbor]

everyone will have 1 to solo instances to sell to lazy ppl?🤣

[ancient gate]

I'm getting bored

I'll make a video on yt and be gone I think

[rocky cloak]

pretty sure ill switch to bladedancer soon

[icy dome]

KFM > BD

[warped raptor]

i didnt read all the messages, can you tell me what are you asking

[icy dome]

U got asked if Glad can be killed within 1 stun i think

[rocky cloak]

more like best sin vs best glad, who wins more duels

[warped raptor]

its hard but possible. i don't have any problems with glady. Duel with full buffs i would say glad 60/40, but arena i think sin wins 60/40 or even more

[icy dome]

I may be wrong, but i think if Glad precasts 2nd Wind and sin doesn't abuse hide (talking about a duel) Glad wont die in 1 single stun

[warped raptor]

you need to take in count a paralyze rng as well, that might change a lot of things too, when glad is in full buff if you proc para, glad will die another 2-3 times after that easily

in precast SW you cant kill glad in 1 stun

[icy dome]

Yeah ofc para gs takes everything out of the equation XD

free kill if proc

Even as Templar im free kill to a sin if para gs procs on me (if no Iron skin up)

Let alone Gladi

[rocky cloak]

basically what i said, if you dont have rng on your side you will have a very hard time

[warped raptor]

only matchup when you actually feel that you are in disadvantage is temp, rather than that i am pretty sure sin is viable vs any, and a skill dependent

[rocky cloak]

i feel the same way

temp in arena is too much fun

80k pvp damage in 1.5 rounds and 0 kills :^)

[icy dome]

How

[rocky cloak]

relic/pot/dp

[icy dome]

At our best we got 15k HP in arena, can heal that up once or twice with DP/Life crystal, thats barely 30k dmg needed

lets push it to 40-45k with multiple pots and relic

80k is more than double that XD

[rocky cloak]

he finished me mid 2nd round

lets say it was 5 mins into arena

if the dps is accurate it was 4 min 30 sec

[spark forum]

I checked a little the difference between Admiral 60 Acc/Armor and e60

And i must say: without the passive buffs, it is barely worth it

If the passive buffs are not a complete gamechanger, the stats diff is minor to nonexistent

[dense shadow]

passives are quite good imo if you roll for good ones

[spark forum]

As i said: IF the passive buffs are a complete gamechanger, okay....then you need the new gear

But IF not, mmhh....dunno.....not so worth imo

And you need to roll your passive effects anyway.

60 Quna for each roll, and you must be very lucky to get your preferred passive buff

[icy dome]

they are a gamechanger

especially for sin with its atk speed, they will proc like mad

[blissful harbor]

specially higher % on procc life

[lime badger]

Does each piece of armor have a specific buff assigned to it, or can they be completely random?

And can each part have a separate bonus? Is it assigned to the set?

[dense shadow]

each piece can roll its own passive/stat. for the passive procs, each piece can proc on its own. so if you have a full set with 3% pvp atk/def you could get 5x procs and have +15% pvp atk/def.

see this spreadsheet for all the things it can roll. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QiEQpu4OaerRBdHwN5a-BZV3PwhB6EOC4AwZD0zDM7E/edit?gid=752408521#gid=752408521

[lime badger]

I see, thanks. So it will be crazy p2w shit 😅

[dense shadow]

for sure, yea 60 quna per roll and 0.8% for the best ones

will add up quick unless you are lucky

[blissful harbor]

yea but diff between good one and best one is not huge

except this shit

11% is alot🤣

other we want is a bit rng🫣

[blissful harbor]

well ~3kk each roll is like enchant stone

and above 4x pvp def/atk and 1x hp restore is what most sin gona aim for

and if u get cooldown recovery procc, it prob gucci too

devotion/fe cooldown reduction proccs 5,7 or 10% cooldown reduction proccs

[safe charm]

how much crit needed nowdays for pvp? with scroll food and buff?

[blissful harbor]

900-920(+13)

something like that, exact number idk

[safe charm]

yeah im 932 without cf

i think ill swap some stones to atk prob better

[blissful harbor]

sooooon we get 100+ pasive crit

[safe charm]

ye i saw so im thinking there is no need for running around max crit all time

[blissful harbor]

xD

[safe charm]

ye my dmg is abysmall sometimes

if chain or plate im fucked hard

plus e50 resists qq

[blissful harbor]

i melt even temps if it where not for the the dp heals if i can stick on them

[safe charm]

i cant im too rusty xd

[blissful harbor]

im rusty too, need practice more but feel casual atm

[grizzled current]

tomottow i can fix my crit

and go to like 820 ish without cf

atm i have to much

(also with att macc food)

[verbal pier]

Wait a few weeks we will get those weapons one day @grizzled current

[grizzled current]

zzzzz

[blissful harbor]

yea im lazy, i fix ma/atk food in 4.0🤣🤣

[blissful harbor]

u got extends?

[grizzled current]

tomorrow i get last admiral piece so i have to socket anyway

[verbal pier]

Nope, i always have been lazy to do it

And i work on each agents so i cant loot them

I think now is better to wait next patch fr

[blissful harbor]

next patch i rather swipe for extends to begin with xD

finally 7m range

[blissful harbor]

ye🥹

[blissful harbor]

im gona make a pure mb set on admiral xD

and pure cav ma set

[grizzled current]

good luck

its complete troll

[verbal pier]

How much u win with admiral mboost set? Nearly nothing no?

I never try to calculate. I think it's a waste

[blissful harbor]

+124mb from cavalier

im using it pure for mb

then prob gona make second cav mb later

[verbal pier]

Oh ok

[blissful harbor]

with new enchant bonus in 4.0 when pve and pvp bonus is same same, u just need 5 same to get bonus

i like it, specially when admiral is basically free

then i make second few sets mb+ma cav

[blissful harbor]

pure mb troll for blood leech pve?🥹

[verbal pier]

Okok actualy smart

[blissful harbor]

i kinda wana start maby parse pve🤣

idk abour L65 pve cloth cosmos

but shit prob insane expensive

but when someone confirmed pvp buffs from new admiral does not dissapear when swapping, i tought prob same wity pve procc buff later

[grizzled current]

still your mac is to low on admiral

[blissful harbor]

same as 50e, its fine for basic non mr users

wellnprob higher due to sword and dagg but ye

[grizzled current]

its not

[blissful harbor]

-40 not gona make or break tho

and just a pure mb set would be fine for bloodrune leech

im still gona get 1x cav and some hybrid mb pieces🤣

[blissful harbor]

to low vs tog leech or pve ? didint think that matter that much

[safe charm]

they put ma + mb pvp acc also? or we still have dogwater?

[blissful harbor]

no sadly not

i think with ma/atk + slayer its fine as full mb set, admiral so to speak

base is ~1500 cloth?

[grizzled current]

still worth switching to magic pvp ones with upgraded accs

[blissful harbor]

they got huge ma right?

how much mb we lose on that?

[grizzled current]

ye esp compared to 50 earring and 55 gold ones

check yourself on calc

[blissful harbor]

just asked if u new beforehand xD doing it on phone is just time consuming xD

55 gold only ones with mb/ma then mb replaced by spell crit if im not misstaken?

except earrings ofc

[blissful harbor]

wait, upgraded ones are in calc?

[grizzled current]

yes?

for month

[safe charm]

u could take the best mb cloth set full stack mb27 and ma acc i guess

[blissful harbor]

and yea i havent even tought about swapping to american xD

full mb comparison

thata alot of spell crit xD but prob negated by all sets in pvp

[grizzled current]

and dont forget each patch now our phys dmg goes up quite a bit

so totally fine to lose some mb

[blissful harbor]

yea 100%

qd II 4.0 is overkill but i glady take it

[blissful harbor]

but for pve nice to have more mb🥹

if devotion gives 20% pve buff, should make popa more too x)

[grizzled current]

its the opposite

only rune burst competes

so having that a little lower dmg wont matter much

[blissful harbor]

ofc not bur 12-14k is decent

thats alot of leech

prob from 4->6k pve leech

[spark forum]

Well, i have around 4kk AP and 500+ Mithrils at the moment.

So if it still takes some time for the weapons and acc, i guess i can reach the full set once the patch goes live

[blissful harbor]

whats the sample size?

5 min?

nvm its 6-7minutes

do wonder if its worth having 1-2 items pvp for % reduction procc on devotion for pve later

having better uptime on devotion should be pretty big

[grizzled current]

you can do 1 part

pvp

couse you have pve weapon

[blissful harbor]

but when pvp/pve enchant is not specific then

nvm .. still need 5 of something ye🤣🫣

[grizzled current]

@verbal pier you have pve and pvp weapons right?

[blissful harbor]

i was actually thinking skipping hp restore procc and just go 4 atk and 1 cdr procc

[grizzled current]

you will take what you get

of the rare ones

[blissful harbor]

ofc, but as a optimal goal so to speak

[verbal pier]

Yep

[grizzled current]

are they enchanted same?

like 1 each same enchant?

doesnt matter if its swords or dagger

[blissful harbor]

if they both can count as pve slot, u might be able to so 2 pvp armor?

[verbal pier]

Nope. My pvp sword is +15 i never been that lucky with pve sword

But dagger both +13 yeah

[grizzled current]

i rly want to know if it prios mainhand or not

of they have same enchant

ok you can put a 13 pvp and pve dagger one

and try 4 pve armor parts

[blissful harbor]

wonder if both count as pve slot, but only highest enchant count

[grizzled current]

and 4 pvp armor parts

[blissful harbor]

or just 1 count

[grizzled current]

to see if it picks the 5th auto

or if at same enchant it only pickls main hand

[verbal pier]

Ok i try this as soon as i come back home

[grizzled current]

could also be which is equipped 1st

[blissful harbor]

if u could use 2 pvp armor parts for cdr? or what the goal of testing?

[verbal pier]

I would say that it will pick the mainhand but i will check

[grizzled current]

isnt it clear

its fine if its mainhand

you will use a pve and pvp weapon for pretty much any content

[blissful harbor]

lets say both weap if it got pve tag works towards 5cpieces, but only 1 counts towards enchant. that would be cool

[grizzled current]

you dont understand what im getting at

only 1 weapon counts

but does it take the pve weapon when you want pve bonus

[blissful harbor]

prob not, im having my own thinking i said above x)

[grizzled current]

or can it randomly take pvp weapon

when oyu want pve bonus

[blissful harbor]

yea u wana see if prio something over another

if its same enchant

[grizzled current]

its either main hand or which you eq 1st

so its fine in pve

mainhand and 1st eq will always be pve dagger

[blissful harbor]

i hope both slots counts towards 5/5 needed, based on tag

but only highest enchant applies

[blissful harbor]

so if its 1 pvp 1 pve its. 1/5 pve and 1/5 pvp

but thats just if i wana try go serious pve later x)

[dense shadow]

I'm guessing it takes the main hand if both have the same enchant, but would need to test.

[grizzled current]

the only case were it would be bad is if you for some reason want 1 pve set piece in pvp

for passive skill

but i doubt thats ever gonna matter

i hope its a consistant case tho

like mainhand would be good

[verbal pier]

@grizzled current if i resume correctly, u want from me to try with both dagger equipped and once with 4 pve parts and once with 4 pvp parts right?

[grizzled current]

ye without switching weapons

[verbal pier]

ok

with pvp main hand and pve second hand (same enchant), if u equip 4 pve parts it gives u pve buff

and pvp buff if u equip 4 pvp parts

[grizzled current]

o shit

so it prios reaching 5 of 1 type

[verbal pier]

yes

[grizzled current]

thats best case

[verbal pier]

fr yeah, in that case you can have whatever u want as last armor part

[grizzled current]

ye it wont matter in pvp

but i think its good for pve

esp solo pve

[verbal pier]

yeah in pve it's really good

[grizzled current]

having 1 pvp part with the hp procc

also good since the new pve set doesnt have set bonus

you wont lose much stats at all

[verbal pier]

I would say u will even win some yeah

Kinda broken btw

[grizzled current]

ye you just perma heal 600 hp on hits

[verbal pier]

To be sure i even tried by putting pve weap in first hand, it doesnt change anything, it's the same

The funniest part is that enchant on last armor part count for the buff, even if it's pve part it gives enchant to pvp buff

[grizzled current]

ye i just never noticed couse my last pve weapons were taha before 2.5

[verbal pier]

Aaaaaand the best part: even if your pve weap has better enchant it still counts for pvp buff too 😂

[grizzled current]

for real huh

[verbal pier]

Yeah my doomed legion sword gives 1 more enchant to my pvp buff when equipped

stupid af

[grizzled current]

so the 5 of a kind prio is higher then the enchant of weapon

[verbal pier]

Yeah

the enchant just counts for the lvl of pvp/pve buff

[grizzled current]

now we just need our good pve weapons 😂

[verbal pier]

Yeah

and for pvp weap it won't be tommorow 😂

[spark forum]

Btw anyone who is playing Brawler next to Sin here?

[lime badger]

So we gonna get admiral weapons tmrw guys?

[spark forum]

Maybe....

[grizzled current]

we will find out in maint announce

[rocky cloak]

i mean if they nerf the pvp attack it doesnt really matter anymore

[random nova]

If tmrw we have weapon 60 we will can exchange weap60 with GBG weapond and also we will take just one weapon ?

[spark forum]

Depends: you want the Sword for OH for Attack

But for Mboost you want the Dagger

Only problem is: we wont get the PvE Weapons tomorrow. And we need the PvE Weapons to make the PvP Weapons viable

[primal garden]

Just buy up.to 6 frags, if you get lucky, get dagger

[safe charm]

how much cost fragment?

ap and medal right?

[grizzled current]

21 medals, 192k ap

[empty bronze]

So guys im a bit confused so i thought pve daggee and new pvp sword or is it otherway around. and which pve weapon best?

[ancient gate]

This is supposed to be the case

But with 60 pve dagger

Which is not available rn

[grizzled current]

and we also dont know which fix they got from kr

[rocky cloak]

now we know, only one hand is counting towards pvp attack :c

im curious if they managed to raise the pvp attack on abg though :D

in that case ill just get the sword and put it in the warehouse

[lime badger]

So currently quite good setup might be doomed dagger / abg sword for att gear.

Just wondering if they're planning to give us some godstone event, because now it's to hard to get any of them...

[rocky cloak]

we got godstone event currently 🤡

so sin got slightly nerfed this week as it seems? i doubt they give abg just double the pvp attack it had before.

if it goes from 6.6 to 11 were losing 2,2% pvp attack no?

[blissful harbor]

officer quest gets reseted, me might get it next patch

[blissful harbor]

yea a/gbg will have 0.5% less pvp atk then L60 when pvp atk normalize happens

[primal garden]

Id go doomed dagger but got para gs on my gbg dagger

💀

[primal garden]

What event?

[blissful harbor]

new para gs coming soon with officer quest reset

[rocky cloak]

i think its over now, but the chocolate cake had a godstone box

[blissful harbor]

i have para on gbg, 2x para in bank xD

[primal garden]

Did a bunch of those, 0 gs

[primal garden]

Ye but im talking rn

[rocky cloak]

ye i put that 🤡 for a reason

[primal garden]

Ye

"Gs event"

Xd

[blissful harbor]

yea if u ddidint buy extra or save 13k( not putting it in oh) u dont have any xD

i would love to have 6% 3sec aetherhold gs in my oh sword😂

[primal garden]

I still have the combat talent gs to get

So thats an extra one

But like

[blissful harbor]

yea, oh para is tooo rng tbf imo

[primal garden]

I can do all content just fine with current weapons

Think ill just wait for pve dagger

[primal garden]

Ye but its broken

[primal garden]

Dont we get that gs next patch?

[blissful harbor]

i will always have it in mh, but oh i prob never will xD

[blissful harbor]

ye think so

bind/ah gs with 4.0+ enchant bonus just gona be so good

[primal garden]

I currently have para main hand

Movement slow offhand

[random nova]

It’ s better to take dagger or sword ?

[grizzled current]

@blissful harbor

[random nova]

how about using lvl 58 doomed sword? xD

[primal garden]

Thought you said you were gonna wait for pve weapons to use ap60

[primal garden]

If you have the resources to enchant/socket it then its a direct upgrade

Personally, i dont want to socket/ enchant to +13 and para gs a new dagger

[random nova]

just for the 73 crit, instead of going double acc in pvp

[primal garden]

Meh

Depends on your wallet

[random nova]

i already have, but i dont get carried by godstones since i dont use any important ones xD

[primal garden]

Xd

I got a para on my gbg dagger

So ye

Like to keep that

I can also do all content in the game with double gbg

So not too pressed about new weapons

Maybe ill go for the dagger for mb

Sword kind of worthless for me rn

[grizzled current]

ye guess im using both now

[primal garden]

Fucking legend

Im just gonna go for dagger

Sword useless right now

So

[grizzled current]

gonna play silence bind till we get salvation

then para on salvation

[primal garden]

Oh you got bind gs?

Dropped from wb or you bought it?

[grizzled current]

bought xd

[primal garden]

You have infinite pockets 😂

[spark forum]

The Crit loss is a lot though.....

[grizzled current]

well i prepared alot of stones when they were cheap

i still have around 50x 100-105, 150x 110, 70x 115

[spark forum]

How did you socket your gear to compensate the crit loss?

[random nova]

-20 atk xD

[primal garden]

Thats so much xd

150 110's is fucking crazy

[grizzled current]

atm i have bloth weapons full crit, thats 806 crit with att macc food

[grizzled current]

well 140 from shop offer past 2 weeks

[primal garden]

True

They had that

Just didnt have enough kinah to buy ac

[random nova]

wie viel atk in pvp set?