#Sin master race general
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Oh, no runes needed?
Explosive burst becomes instant cast and u can slot it without needing stigma before it
Cool
Nah you need a solid Macc set
My character isn't that old tbh, I'm lacking of almost everything
well yea, i do have ma and mb set so
rng, i have ~2400+ ma
i also get random resistsπ
Even if you had aether hold or stumble or spin pene, it will not work in todays remove shock. It is 2k instead of 1k.
Ah shame π
Only application of it is for UD temp/glad, so you have 2x 50% stun on rune/ambush, so as for enchantment mantra vs chant and vs boon of sorc 50% 2x stuns chances
yea kinda sucks its just 500 stun pen, didint retail have 500 pen everything back in the day?
Yes, however from 4.0
Getting stun on 3.0 still decent, if you take in cosnideration how good sin can be with new set swaps, which was not available in old aions
yea
swap sets was garbo back then, cced in swapping and u where naked
only thing thats really bad for us imo is now when Msup is a thing, and when 2nd 60 set come and ppl have it, they will roughly cut our mb with 350
You should not rely on mb 3.0 that much anywyas
Mb is more like a bonus nowdays, you got amazing phys burst
ik, it just to bad thats all
MA is more of a value from those set swaps, if you access your control, dmg is not and should not be a problem
but 177% more rune dmg is quite alot
i dont devalue ma, i have both ma and mb set
In 1 pain rune control you can easily burst 10k HP anyway. Mb dmg is a small bonus for me. I rathwr enjoy MA which can guarantee the control
i agree, but anything thats aint chain, i never fail anyway on hitting pain
Maybe in open world
On arenas vs full mr glads on defence preparation. Or water spirit full mr sm, or elemental ward sorc. You will fail a lot
And if you do, you wont be forgiven
I speak about top of the list players i got experience to figbt against.
But on open world MB has 10 times more value vs randoms i agree
yy i know what top ppl that use mr xD
that just smal% anyways xD
u swap ma for throw dagger too?
ambush?
u use double bind for ma and mb? x)
+100 ma per rank
My macroes still leave me naked Most of the times. Dont know How to fix that. Any advice?
Waiting 1 sec between every swap feels Like ages
In game macro?
I tried both: ingame with 1 sec Delay between swaps and synapse.
Both leave me naked 50% of the times
They work flawless on Test dummies, but in real combat it is chaos
usually if u press button twice it cancels the macro
think u need to work on delays more
sound weird, i atm just have 1 sec working fine, sometimes it stays on mb but not so often that i care
Happy new year my friendly Assassins! π₯
Happy new years fellow sins
Sin 4.0 Korea, is by far N1 class RN, changes they did is amazing. finally the class is getting some love
N1 would be Lumine
Sin even with the changes ain't reaching that absurd retardneds that's Lumine
And until i see a sin solo PvE or solo whole grps in PvP.. that ain't gonna change
let it 1 shot grps, in 1v1 he dies vs sin, for sure
And since when does 1v1 truly matter in an MMO
Also gl getting through its immunities...
your typing in Sin channel rn
Before u die
for us thats all it matters
Ngl id like to see sin 1 shotting Temps and Lumines
Got a video or stream u can link?
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... at like 2:10 he fights a Lumine, which Lumi kills like 2-3 ppl, then it takes 3 others + the sin to kill said Lumine
But u say sin wins 1v1 π
Chanter got folded in record time
But that Lumine would have eaten the sin like cake 1 on 1
only thing lumines has is 4 sec def where you cant kill it, if you ambush lumines in OW he wont even use it, 1 shot potential of sin is crazy in 4.0, thats all im saying
don't want to go in the deep rabbit hole now, rambo is better or terminator talks
Yeah but still as Rospet said ability to 1 shot a whole grp >>>>>> ability to 1 shot a single person
i dont care what lumines does to x100 ppl mate, sin sees him in OW , lumines gets 1 shotted
thats my point
8:22 of the video
sin gets folded
right after using all his cds vs ranger, and he is not even in hide for surprise effect
u mean that fold?
wvs lumine that didnt use half its cd's or its complete 100% immunity either
^
Which if memory serves me right lumine can reset to end up having x2 immunities or smth
4.0 feels peak, cant wait
BTW, are they planning to nerf lumitard?
highly unlikely
Instead they seem to be trying to turn most (if not every) other class to similar levels of retarded as Lumine
3.7 in Q2 according to Roadmap....wow
according to roadmap and reveiw of it, all get free class change ticket
I don't get it, so we skip 3.0 part 2, 3.2 and 3.4?
guys does throw dagger remove bodyguard too?
yes
Ur not wrong π
From temp, there are BG, Nezekan (the 4k dp) and Iron skin
Probably more but I don't know
Unyielding armor too
2k DP as well
and if we wanna be technical Rage too
Throw Dagger removes EVERY shield
puts every non used shield skill cd on cd to π€‘
BG, Unyielding, Nezekan/Zikel, Safeguard, Divine Curtain, Cler RS shield, immortal shroud, hell Siege boss 50% dmg reduction even
Literally any skill that lowers recieved dmg by X/% or straight up blocks dmg or redirects recieved dmg
cant wait to have a shot at temps 4.0
been killing a few, excet those who pops every cd in the book
There wont be many ppl to kill in 4.0 if things dont change
Patch looks beyond retarded
long time until then , things might happend since
retarded glacial got nerf
Glacial aint even close to as dumb as the 4.0 changes
even if its a bit retarded ow now as it is .. 7k crits
u cant even compare
have u played it in eu`?
the direction is fritening yes, but seen alot of streams and arenas, outside immunitys if u shutdown and cc they die like paper
worse then paper
u dont get the chance to cc them when they have the power to 1 shot whole groups dude
And imagine all the clips and shit were just x1 lumine vs grps
Now imagine x3-4 in a grp buffed up by chanter
Good fucking luck without an alliance
still long way to go
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i really enjoy this tbh
yea he actually runs QD
with QD rank 2, that shit gona hurt
qd goat
Nerf sin
https://myaion.eu/PvEPlayerSession/24164641 assassination deals 10k dmg xD
shit scales with enchants now so ye xD
When class change event comes im actually seriously thinking change from my sorc to a sin?
Never played sin, is it hard to master it?
Would try it out on a privat server
It reminds me sin from. 4.6-4.8 patch.
Anyway they can still nerf sin in Korea. For example they have make changes with chanter 2 times.
prob hardest class to truly master
both pve and pvp
So sorc insta glacial and im gucci
i mean suprise hit 7k crit is fine ow
but u gona struggle really hard in arena or group ow if they even look at u xD
I used to main sin and like to check this thread - now with class change soon available im thinking of swapping back (from sorc since 2.7). Whats sets and weaps would you do with whats available, can change manastones ofc:
Full cav set w/ MA14
Full e55 set w/ MB27
Full e50 still in boxes from dredg
Abg accs + wings
Wep; Legion commander tome +12 para gs
ABG wep +13 silence gs
I see, I mean all gear listed above is for my sorc and ill swap it around, but idk what to get as the main pvp gear, if its worth to keep the cloth cav for the MA or make it the main dps set
oh u wana awap
Yeye, im currently sorc and all above is my sorc gear
legion commander dagger, agb sword( when swap comes only highest pvp atk applys no stacking)
swap every abg except 1 ring 1 earring
if u want to swap using other things then preset set macros
1 swap is free
includes:
1 weap
7 accesorys
5 armors
300 Quna per item more
ye, ill swap whatever is neccessary
all gear is cloth atm
cav cloth ma
cav cloth/50e mb
cav leather acc
2 cav +3 smal gbg atk
gbg mr
gbg/55e evasion
this is current best combo sets
atk set turns into 2nd 60 set avaliable in eu next patch
tbh i would just use cloth 55e mb at this point, no use getting anything else as its roughly same mb
hmmm oke i see.. the question is then what do i make my atk set if i keep the cav as MA
no manastones gets turned
i know i have alot of manastones np swapping any
manastones, storm skill, dropable skillbooks
i would prob farm medals and buy 60 shit instant when swap comes
151x5 medalsπ
and just keep gbg accs , u have everything else! just for happy medium best solution
u like sin more then sorc?
hahah ye i guess thats the play, i just dunno if i do maybe the e50 or e55 with atk/crit since patch is later than the class swap
i love sin and a bit bored overall feels nice w a swap
50e atk is okay but u glass cannon
55e is good start but lacks a little π same evasion values as gbg so its good there
ah ye, thanks man! feels a bit "waste" using the only eternal set i have as MA but maybe its key anyways
above video from Daggered should give u good reason to change
it is 100% key π
rotate oath+ slayer in 1. and slayer in 2nd just extends your ma a value even mr cant do anything about
@brazen shadow Don't forget only Eternal gear L55+ can get swapped
U cannot swap golds or lower than L55 items
tbf he does not even need swapping gear except accs xD
mb need to swap the cav gloves for aspd leather?
u need magic accs to
no
no biggie, could use 50e for that tho, -10 mb less then full cav
but full cav is +160 more ma then 50e
~600k ap to fit new meta greater stigmas for 1 additional 11m stun when swap comes
thanks for the input, ill try to figure it out π
if u wana swap, dont buy deadly poison
hahah alright xD
we swap it out for 11m stun that patch, and deadly becomes passive skill in 4.0
Anyone using Synapse?
u refering to faster gear swapping? rather then 1 sec more like 0.35 sec?
Aye....it is working so far....but .... every time when i think i got the perfect delay, something changes and in a fight it starts to bug
increase the delay a couple of miliseconds
worked for me
btw @blissful harbor changed my gear a bit and now its 1850 Macc without buffs π Getting there slowly but surely π
My question is: where do you put your delay?
I use ingame Gear switch + rune, then the rest synapse to get my gear back
At the moment i use my first delay after Ingame Macro, then synapse switches back gear
most use atleast gear swap + rune - delay 1 sec - swap back full set
idk your software but the synapse macro should most likely have an option to delay between keys
ye
gear swap into swap full set
advanced non legal per definition way is swap + rune - swap bar - 12345678890 binds to swap gear back - swap back to main skillbar
with decent stable ping, u can reduce the swap back from 1 sec to 0.5 or lower sec to swap
but most u winning is 1 auto right after swap
I got all of this.....just havent found the perfect delay yet, since it seems to vary
Well, i keep trying and testing π
btw...best Set for Macc is Cav right?
And best Set for Mboost is Gbg, right?
Play with the delays
I had quite a bit of trial and error to find the right delay for every circumstance
Excluding like sieges or wb
Where the lag is insane
best mb set is cavalier
10+ mb after 50e
and u have +160 base Macc from 50e
im using 50e and its enough for me
And which is the best Macc Set at the moment?
cavalier is best +160 from 50e
but getting 50e macc set is also good, with oath or slayer 2 up, i will most likely have around 2.4k ma
here is a good comarison, full ma 50e vs cavalier and most likely accs ppl use with slayer rank 2 + ma/atk/hp food ( prob best pvp food for us generally speaking)
both is really good 50e and cavalier, 50e beeing budget is really good using
if u curious
Is there a list what new gear we will get with 3.2/3.7?
upgradeable accs
weapons
new better L60 armor
meta stigmas
new pve weaps
new pve armor
new L58 extendable
A better l60 PvP Armor? 0.o
yes, extremely expensive
10kk ap and like 800 medals
New medals or mithril needed?
mithril
So why i m getting the 60 AP Armor right now? π
xD idk
Ok i decide when class change comes i reroll sorc to sin
Is a huge and so different style and all but idk
Especially gonna be hard to get ussed to it at high lvl swap.
But overall is not hard class nowaday right?
Gave me few good starter tips π
So idea gbg weap if i swap sorc i get it from start
Primus accs too
50e set too
So maybe 50e i leave as macc/mb set
And i focus gbg set as dps atk set?
2nd weap maybe to take pve one idk.
Since in new patches dual pvp dmg will get 11% pvp dmg anyway 1 weap
cav is best for macc and mb due its base macc xd
i did buy 3x small 60 pieces for att already to have some msub but i wont buy more now and get the chest pants with on hit procc
And shoulders 14 crit spell
our crit spell doesnt matter vs geared players
and spell resist
Got more spell resist than that Crit spell π
Well relying on Crit for runes is kinda useless
ye only works vs undergeared
It helps but I dont pay attention
I'm not saying it specifically for nothing, just that it reaches 130 crits.
but spell resist is also there
just give us mace in mh pls
Quick question
last stage of illusion's tower
What are we supposed to do ?
Hit cristals ?
Heard smth about killing small crystals
Didnt test it since im not doing it anymore after i killed it once :x
(I just bursted it)
I see
my max has been floor 10
but i can't get there consistently because of floor 4
that cunt
sometimes he just kills me
idgi
yea bugged ground animations
i hate that shit
i save every cd in the book for it π
Floor 4 is easy
After every corrupting symbol or whatever that skill is called just wait 1 sec and move a few steps to the right
(Or left, whatever u prefer)
@primal garden
When he does corrupt symbol or whatever it's called in english you wait 0,5s then move a little bit
yea but problem is those stuff does not show xD and personally i cba to care
Saame
@ancient gate OMG that dmg of cleric broo t.t
Y
Yea broo instant dmg insane on my opinion
well a sin opener is 10k from hideπ
Well it's not easy to "one hit" clerics and chanters in OW
true, but that opener and fe/at/fe
they cant be offensive xD
servants (idk if it's called like that) can easily break your evasions
what about tiamat stigma that allows another RS ?
Well that time he had it πΊ
xD
still no resist after so
best way to play cleric that patch is prob totally turtle 100% support build
and wind slash someone to deathππ
Why are those purple stains not showing for some people? If not for the videos I would have never guessed what happened to me
^
I mean I saw some classic videos on Youtube with the effect shown π€
Are you sure it was classic ? Because spaller's one aren't shown
or maybe not europe, idk
Yeah, it shows in other regions but not in EU and RU as I could see
Apparently it gets fixed in 3.0 part 2 or part 3 which we obv don't have yet
sadge
pain.
It's quite often tbh
yes i know :c
So a couple of months worth of wait π
Yeah if full crit... Show me 10k opener without 100% crit rate π
thats in 4.0
QD 4k, 4k rune, beast, weaves
dont need 100% crit but for shure a few

yea i havent had a resist yet on thatπ
what type of damage runes are? fire?
fire
What is the goal to do the last set pvp or 60 accessories ? if the next patch out soon ?
upgradeable accesorys max except 1 ring and 1 earring IF u wana have skillbar gearswaps
new 60 pvp set for atk in next patch
rest is still the same
Weapon first, but this is easy to get
pve weap mh, pvp oh
Need new pve weapon first π
pvp mh pve sword oh for ma π
Which PvE weapon you are looking for?
Need to check stats for this weapon...guess its slightly better than Doomed Legion
a littleπ«’
What means upgradeable accessories? Can we enchant em with stones or what?
new accesorys we get in next patch can be upgraded after u bought them for AP
What you mean by upgrade π
u feet it ap somwhow and get a upgraded item, basicat a new name item for 30-80k ap each time
can lvl 4 times
max lvl hat
what u buy for medals+ap
I see, ty
"slightly" sword only has +70 maac 
Yep, "slightly" better π
shit sword only for swaps thoπ
pvp sword ftw
"only" for swaps as if swapping isn't basically the entirety of sin's CC
u only swap ma for 4 ccsπ€£
the 30+ atk on sword are slightly?
True......slightly is the wrong term. Lets agree to "minimal" π
and you can go for pvp dagger + pve sword, so you stay on doomed legion till you get salvation, if you get all new accessoires later you can switch to salvation dagger for the extra atk, since all accessoires combined will make up for the loss of accuration from pvp dagger
https://myaion.eu/Player/5878309 this guy plays double crit and full atk
+30? white atk is 1.1 multiplier then green atk π₯³π
you play what you feel like π
Better combo is Flaming salvation dagger for max flat atk + 55 gbg sword. With this dual, you have atk + Crit on 2 weapons and you can socket more atk+5 manastones.
Now you are trolling
Pvp dagger and pve sword is just dumbest combo ever. Pvp dagger atk is lower than pve. Flaming salvation + ap sword is top tier, and 60 ap sword doesn't have Crit. If u play 55 gbg, you can socket 4 atk+5 more
20 atk does not outpeform diffrence
u will want 60 pvp sword too for the acc
patch after next we will gain 100 crit too from passives so then its almost back to full atk againπ
pvp dag + pve sword is best for Ma swap, pvp dag have higher base ma
just troll for them not giving us Ma on dagger, just some useless parryπ
evasion would be ok too
Yes but i dont speak for MA swap π€£
For main atk set i dont care about MA
salv + pvp 60
and swap pvp 60 when salv atleast +13 is my go toπ
and +15 dag when my sword is +13
your gbg will go crazy
45 more weaves from oh is nice
but useless imoπ
+280 acc vs +65 critπ
having gbg oh does not cut it tbfπ₯Ή
just wondering why not double salvation?
tbh for ma could work? ifk if runes scale of base atk speed animation or if its fixed animation
that looked like pve for me, for pvp i totally understand why not :D
pls guys checkππ
if motion speed is same, we can double sword rune swaps for massive +ma
u too @random nova i see u try typingπ₯Έ
It does
Losing for example 8% atk speed on gloces (50e) is slightly slower
you can use 40e for 7% atkspeed
u dont know that for shuure, clerics insta skills for example mace/staff does not matter
i want confirmation on motion speed on myaπ
its just the auto atk after switching, feels slow without extra atkspeed on gloves
without skillbar swap( synapse) u still hit with either set u swapped anyway
but slower
yea no biggie
it is^^
i cant say anything im rocking double D and 50e for both ma and mb atm π
one of them have 19% atkspeed?
ofc
60 pvp dagger 60 pve sword is for mb/macc swaps
60 pve dagger 60 pvp sword is for att (60 pvp sword couse you need the acc)
Reflect or capture? π
both are legit
reflect for group, pull for solo imo
pull is almost always a kill, felt really good last time. reflect sounds fun in group if youre being focused :x
reflect u just all in π
u immune
ye its strong, but i do think 1v1 it loses to pull
With reflect you don't need to care about opponents rs, it's deadly in 1v1 as well.
reflect works for everything or only physical
Everything besides auto attacks
Rs buff doesnt help you against pull aswell :x but yes, it is indeed a strong skill on a too low cooldown
I dont like this Season Pass at all
Free Admiral Armor piece
Okay you have to wait for the second pass.....so 30+ days, but still
meh
they forgot to add the other fragments, you get 1 piece in this pass
it shows 5, but its 10
every event infos are wrong.. it shows first 5, then you buy the pass and its 10, but when you count all its 15
still not good 60 main set
better wait for next
yeah but its for free
Chest, Pants are obvious choices
i prob won't use the piece xd
even if it's free
just chilling with my e50 until next patch
π
Btw....are there any news about Aion 2?
I mean they said they want to release it 2025
but no ingame footage yet
Guys, does any1 know if we can exchange more than 1 weapon for 60 lvl admiral weapon tokens?
you can turn in as many +13 gbg weapons as you have, no limit
So if I have 3x gbg +13/15 I can instantly get 2x admiral weapons?
What chests? Sorry, I don't know how it works in Na :/
I see, so we can buy only 3 of those boxes right? What is price for it?
idk? but u can buy weap boxes for cheaper then full price
for "rng" chance for full weap
buy max X amount and scrap gbg +13 for full fragment needed for weap
Anyway I have to stick to my gbg sword +15 and use it together with admirals dagger. Until I will get burning salvation + admirals sword
boxes are 21 miths and 193k ap for a 15% chance of weapon selection box or 85% chance for a token
10 tokens gets you a weapon, 100%
you can also turn in +13 or better gbg weapons for 7 tokens (shields for 5)
so yes you can turn in 3 weapons for 21 tokens then spend 20 on 2 weapons
Ty man! π
@dense shadow u always come in like this with info, similar to gold cheat in wc3 π
Hello I have question how can i kill templar with same gear Even i used silence blind and so on this class donβt die
double para godstone :^)
sin is not supposed to win the matchup but its possible in arena with some luck or missplays from the temp side
any elyos sins wana do dino ranger zergs from hide?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FtdEdnnvBk as example this vid, senju got tog silenced with ud at start (before the recording)
Yes, if templar uses Block + MR set and I deal 4 to 20 damage on weave, I will use the tools assassin has and hide out and not risk fighting into 4k DP shield, Iron Skin, Aether Armor, Holy Shield and Empyrean Armor later, especially on flight map! :)
I literally deal more damage to myself than to templar while hitting on Holy Shield (30 sec dur...
3 ways:
Severely outgear the templar
severely outskill the templar
severely outluck the templar (godstones/tog silences ect ect)
on equal gear/skill without insane luck Temp absolutely destroys sin 1v1 in any and all possible scenarios
ye
classic has alot of handless temps
but some you just dont even see a single kill
4.0 we would hav had a good chance
if not for the UD II changes
anyeon got tips for floor 12 of towe?
with the double titans
i killed one, thenit respawned whilst i was killing the other
attack 1 > get it to 5% HP > kill other > kill 1st
U have about 15 seconds to kill the 2nd before 1st re spawns
ah ok
and mind any aoes, u only get x3 artefacts total, dont waste em
also question, they're always going towards the middle, is that another mechanic?
ah ok
that's good to know, just got to weaken the first one
ty for info
i went from 7th to 12th with a couple of weeks
this one feels hard
and the 13th seems even crazier
new sensory and deadly with 500 stun pen for 12 secπ
would been great if not 2kud
you havent fought enough temps using 2k dp yet
i fought enoughπ usually only go if i know shit got stuff on cd
they need dmg nerf
There is no way that a templar lose to a sin
wish we have better Dp skills π
4kdp dash stun cant be resisted
windwalk <5min cd would be cool
Which would be useless even if 1k UD
Any templar with a brain would just use Stance while u have those buffs up
UD combined with Stance is even now 2k Res, so good luck
Just having windwalk working like assassin's step would be appreciated
One hit and you're not in hide anymore is stupid especially with DP
yea 100%, but suck donkey its 20min tho
our dp kit prob the worst out of all classes
except brawler :^)
brawler is a joke xD
I would recommend you to ask rospet, since he seems to lose pretty consistently to sins
i wish we had more stun penetrationπ and better dp
You will never kill or win vs top templar,as a sin, no matter how good you play. Sin vs temp matchup is completely templar dependent, if templar plays all his cards right, there is nothing sin can do.
in Open world when temp is not buffed/has no idea you comming you can shadowfall bug abuse+surprise effect can play a factor, and maybe you kill(but its a big maybe,+ you need to be,absolutelly flawless on sin, which is decades of practise worth), or you kill 1-2 times in arena as well if you proc para first inc/auto, but in general, lets say when temp knows that your incoming, all buffs allowed(no tournament rules) and you dont proc para in his UD, u wont win, and even if you proc para, your DPS must be Extremely high and spot on to burn him down,until he is out of para.
buff sin
This one works well
Thanks!!
Yw
For pve I just take deadly abandon, apply deadly powder smth (the superior stigma) and rune burst, rest are pvp ones
And for siege runes are useless
Got it boys
juicy! alukina offhand?
i would personally slapp full acc +27π«£
Triroan π¦
idk if βbuffedβ L58 extend Dagger actually has ias :/ might be only sword?
Yea, I'm tired of preparing for future patches
both get buffed but only sword has atk speed
they just up the stats that they have a little
just as i tought, well either wat y i gona need to get bothπ wonder how expensive they gona be
not that they gona be super mandarory with slayer +2m but
With extend 4m - early 5m so 6- early 7m
yea glhf manage to out range the autos xD
my goal is just for chase and carves π«£
extend slayer is next patch right?
i only have trioran sword rn
hoping good price for extendy next patch xD
dagg/sword prob cheapesr overall anyway
due to slayer 2m+
bro no way dagger is cheaper
i saw a dagger go for like half a billion last saturday
eternal dagger will cost alot, at least the 1st few
prob cheaper than extend though
ye
i wanted to have 1 billion for next patch
prob doable with like 3-4 months
my sin is done, just gonna replace some pvp parts with the free e60
flooding in event stones so it will be essentially free to upgrade it
next pass ill have full 60 set xd
enough stones to enchant last piece and the new weapons
so ye im also saving kinah atm
i just hope the glads behave on the dagger bidding
well thats not rly a weapon for sins
i know but i mean that they always go hard for daggers
@hollow frigate are we gonna have a bidding war for the 1st eternal dagger next patch 
even between themselves, the prices go high
when you add sins to the situation
inflation as fuck
from the current pace of medel and relic income i will be able to instantly buy both pvp weapons and full accs and have like 1kk ap to upgrade the accs (didnt math the upgrade costs)
Itβs not my intention mate ππ»
i'll prob be able to get them too
Same situation here
stats will be insane
So you going x2 ap weps or offhand pve
phys: pve dagger pvp sword
mboost: pvp dagger pve sword
atm i have full mb cav cloth
and chest pants macc cav cloth, 3p 50e macc
why extend dagger expensive
will buy the missing macc cav pieces instant next patch
gonna switch to perma att macc food
dagger cheaper then pole? staff? gs? yea i would say xD
yea i prob gona do that too
and resocket atk back in 4.0 if needed
the number of crit stones stay same
the new accs pretty much allow the food change
Months ago I crafted 1000s plindits. Never realised I couldnβt use them because of low crits, so I gave a lot away
strike res on my +13 admira will be 441
kind of doubt but we'll see
incl wings and max lvled accs?
i used them alot in early 2.0 i do craft those myself too i have like 4k
ye
well im looking at statistics around extendables, L54 sword was cheap xD compared to staff for example
hm yea then u get +100 instantly patch after xD
On retail thatβs all I used, sadly on classic I have to use crit food
i have like 41x now
idk exact
like between 410-420
ye couse of gbg weapons
Yes !
3.x retail the elite pvp weaps had att crit acc
wait, i thought we were talking non extend, now i'm confused
so roughly total of ~950 crit highend down to 900 lowend vs +10 ppl
not that many have +13 set
ye mybad! i was talking about extendy
ill play with like 915 crit +-
i got extend sword and never used it xd
also, for sins to use extends, do both dagger and sword need to be extend?
ok
think so
never felt the need for extends tbh
it's triroan
thats shits 15% i think
just lose 30% dmg atm
with L58s maby better
5+2m gona be nice to FINALLY cuck wintry
i'll check
Both triorans are 15%
i 200% miss blackheart+alkuina combo
then fuck me
not that i had it on classic
so far i never dropped something that i need myself, maybe ill just get lucky next patch cope
This !
but it doesn't matter if dagger is +19% speed anyways
just need proper extend dagger
like was literally broken, so having 7m is insane! and 4.0 slayer i 1min duration tooππ
58 dagg have no atkspeed, sword has 19%
none
Anyone remember on retail the skill, it was an instant x3 repeater, was like throw dagger x3
no 19%
i just asked if there was 19% speed
there is atm 1 19% extend sword+ dag
what's the 19% dagger
next patch its 1 dagg 2 swords that have 19%
ok
alukina L45π
so we need dagger from next patch
and sword ye
i'll just use triroan until get money for ext sword
wonder avg atk diff on extnd vs eternal
buffed extend dagger 166
avg how much atk i lose
eternal 206
topend?
ye
20% dmg not including pvp atk
thats decent in certain situations
now its prob around 45%π
ye you only use it for some situations
yea that one prob same compariaon sword vs pvp sword ?
less base att diff but ye
if it has good acc, i prob slot fully crit
You should tag kkthxbye aswell
either way, i have 2-3b budget so. i prob get it until 4.0
he also pays alot for things?
2b budget xd
3b if i include all my quna too and my savinga interms of investment xD
but im extrem cheapskateπ
Isnt he the biggest spender on sin?
Maybe not since ecraze beat him to the extend
checka black amex user?ππ₯Έ
i mean that extend is just worse
L58?
current
Also if khimaar decides to play sin again its gg for the first dagger
khimaar isint he a sm?
meh he barely plays atm
ppl who is wanabe degenerates does not belong in sin master raceπ
But yeah most classes atm have only one, maybe two players that are willing to whale
i saving plats to catchup my casual gaming with cavalier cloth for 148 extra ma setπ
Except perhaps cleric and glad
whys that then
still can't believe that was a thing
im so glad i bought supply before that
he bought those from ah
lol thats even worse π
ah?
or did prices tank??
action house
ah
no he just bought all
lol
Just figured since he was running around with 8+ +15 weapons, balic glasses, balic staff, mastarius mace and so on
And its was long before deathbringer event where alot got their +15
fair point π
i wonder what prices gona stagnate on?
first couple gona be nasty, thats for shure
hope i drop it xd
300kk is good
got premade but idk how we're gonna tackle that situation
new weaps 65 in 4.0?
idk if farm until everyone geared or full sell
It also depends heavily on drop rate
i heard it's ass π
Korea complained about extends i heard, so they had to up TL/bakarma level
how much better ia L65 weaps is, if there is any later?
So extends in the new one are prob very very rare
to 56? xD
instead of just buffing drop rates of the new extendes
there is 65 extends , i had both on retail , still same low accuracy etc
they're fucking disgusting
in kr?
no was eu
no retail is w/e xD
i stopped 3.0 xD so im new waters with skill and swaps since classic xD
i stocked up on 115s for like 20-24kk each and i have like 60 atm
@green crag what patch on retail did i have x2 extendies mate
a week later the elyos ah was perma empty
but event or tradeable?
tradeables
ah auction
was it not some pvp extendies then?
purchased at the right time
i need to stock up as well but looking bleak
deala?
only pvp extendies i remember was mythical ones if you was general rank +
yea those i saw xD
ah deals
so far i did my admiral pieces with 110s 10-12 and 115 to 13
110s are still 45%
im skipping admiral xD
same
prob stack freebies tho
i wanted to skill chest pants
how many parts you got mate
i bought the 3 small and wanted to stop
just use the free ones
now the pass happened xd
that's what i'm doing
so free chest pants
pass giving 2 parts ? thoght it was just 1
naa im making my gbg/cav +13, saving for cav cloth + smal piece acc ans make +13, rest gbg for mr
you're gonna get 3 parts ye
and new set after that
i can always turn this admiral into msub set at some point
how much worse msup is admiral vs fleet admiral?
but ill be medal blank instantly next patch anyway
these free pieces will be epic
pretty much same
yea nice msup then
specially with sensory buff 4.0
also admiral allowed me to finally have mr set xD
xD
ill prob socket my old mb daggers to mr next patch
i have enough plats for 1 more gbg weapon ( if needed) and 3 small cav pieces
im gonna struggle with relic storage again soon
xD
i dont want to runn around high rank for 2 month
im not even in a rush π
if i turn everything i have into ap, like everything including radiant and the new ones, i have around 7kk to turn in
50e prob gona be my mb set if nothing major changes, and i just make new ma ser cavalier when i get thereπ
im mostly switching to mb (if i have buffs) π
oath to 3 min already helps alot
ye but 2 min gona be huge
maby full mb cavalier with 60 pvp + 60 pve sword is enough ma xD
guys after i finnish admiral set, what should i do with my egbg ? acc/eva?
platinum not ebony?
Since ebony is almost impossible to have this patch unless you sacrifice your mithrils yes
From what I've heard next patch ebony will be platinum
So stacking them would be a good idea
so thbey change ebony to plat cool
i got around 400 ebony atm
outside of weeklies theres no other way to farm platinum medals right?
You can convert some azure blue (I think it's called like that in english) into platinum in inggison/gelk fortress
But it's you and your luck
Doing weeklies with alt could be a good idea
It's a fountain
hmm you know location of fountain?
Yes
Having a cloth cavalier provides a lot of magical accuracy
Best would be to have 2 set to MB and Macc but it's a lot of investment
Also having low leather cava parts for an accuracy switch can be useful against evasion
ok cool
if u waiting for next patch, u can farm the weekly ebony/platinum on alt chars! platinum becomes tradeable next patch
egbg mr
egbg/55e evasion
cavalier cloth ma/mb
cavalier leather acc ( 3 smal pieces full acc)
admiral Msup
new pvp set atk set (3.7 next patch)
this is my route
comes another really expensive one
~151x5 medals +10kk ap total
with special pvp star procc buffs
under AP60 armor buffs
u can get any of those buffs on any piece, just comes with a certain one when buying
theres like 10 fountains
like 3 down there and everywhere up the ramp
so, i just recently found out that weaving whilst moving seems to increase your attack speed
how known is this
that sounds bs?
i started applying it mid phaistos and kept stealing aggro from people i never managed before
and the numbers seems to come out faster
define moving?:p
like, moving sideways, it's way it works best for me
as long its not side strafe buffπ
oh so smal phsyco strafe pushed with animation?
prob that ye
sounds more like a tick π
idk man
me stealing aggro whenver i did it
and how fast the damage was piling up
i told you, i was stealing aggro once i did that
well i have no idea, gona dumt test dps duration i guess
it kind of feels like some sort of cancel animation
because skills seem to come out fast and you're already weaving in that time
def feels faster than the normal process whilst standing still
anyone else noticed this?
from the other sins we have here
but ye test it eric
When you're in combat, moving affects your stats
While running forward you increase your dmg by 10%
side -> increase dodge, reduce atk by (I don't remember how many)
backward -> increase parry and block but reduce atk by 10% (not sure)
70%
but u need to have directional arrow to get corresponding buff x) he talks about micro moving sideways between every atk and he feels he weaves faster or animation cancels
@ancient gate
is it only +300 evasion? tought it was +300%
I think I got what you're trying to say
Sorry if I'm not clear because I don't know spells name in english
But when I do sigil strike + the spell right after (or is it already the 2nd idk xd)
I move a bit because I feel like animation is faster
ye
Sigil is the 2nd, Rune Carve is the 1st
on attacks that you can do while moving
Shit I was wrong
slight movement between weaving seems to be faster than standing still
I always thought it was a personal preference, it seems faster for me though, never heard anyone saying the same thing so far
ye i think it comes out faster
because i started to steal aggro from people in which i wasn't doing before
in the same instance
You can easily tank every dungeon with pvp gear honestly
For that to happen you'd need to have over 20% higher dps
"every" I should've say
not talking about plates though
its more likely ur rota is just getting better while the other tank is slacking more
ye, i tank every instance at this point
Than ur dps getting so much higher that u steal agro
ye but it was same rotation, same strat, same boss
and again, it wasn't a plate
so the aggro disparity isn't as much
that half movment smal ajusting could be the smal frame needed for perfect aac between abilitys tbh
i prefer smal movments in some cases , but mostly because of retard ticks from other mmo
ye
i still can't do it perfectly but it def seems to have an impact when i'm more consistent with it
its cap
I never test It, but doing It like in retail too, seems more faster y
Some critical with magic set π
You can easily tank every instance even in pve gear π
they will give a free 60 ap part ?
in free pass if u finnish it
1.5 pieces if u buy premium
how is 60 cloth for mb?:p
juste a little part ?
chooseable part
its not worth it
best amor set for sin right now pvp wise?
egbg mr
egbg/55e evasion
cavalier cloth ma/mb
cavalier leather acc ( 3 smal pieces full acc)
admiral Msup
new pvp set atk set (3.7 next patch)
currently available best atk set is admiral but that shit not worth due to next patch( if u havent farmed since start of 3.0)
thanks mate
guys how can good sins weave wihtout jumping while chasing ? im trying on dummy at 0m distance i get target to far away or just skill registers but no auto?
u have auto appoarch on atk? and binded atk on some button?
y on my mouse i have auto atk
should not be a problem tbf, stable good enough ping? ~=<50
40-50
its just auto wont register only if i stop for like 0.5s then auto goes through
seems wierd, i had that happend to targets that running and totally decsynced
some ppl say theres a distance bug
there is
but mostly desyncing shit xD
u have atk on mouse button
u have it to smash button when u have it pressed?
no iset it to repeart while holding
u keep it hold on and use skills?
y
there is your prob
try tap it in between and u see it working
i still use on repeat while press xD
i see i ll try it out