Sin master race general

[silk current]

Or wait for ABG weapons?

[blissful harbor]

huh? u need a total of 75, thats +13 weap (just one) 2 armor pieces 13. and 2 armor pieces 12

[random nova]

then its 3x +13 and 3x +12

[blissful harbor]

yupp

[random nova]

but he can save kinah going for 1 part +12 and other +11

rest needs to be +13

[blissful harbor]

true

do wonder, pvp gets another reward @80 in 3.0. u know if pve gets something juicy then?

[random nova]

all about kinah and time, is it worth to wait for another 150+ medaills or rather buy padma dagger which can be used with abg sword

[silk current]

but with abg weaps there will be no %10 pve anymore ?

[random nova]

5 pve parts and either pvp or pve weapon

[random nova]

idk, not active watching NA or KR streamer / videos

[random nova]

and highest enchant count on dw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duSGWYJnzkE this guy has atleast a V pve buff

[silk current]

i didnt understand that

[random nova]

dagger or sword has to be +13, the other can be +10

[random nova]

What is that solo instance? 😮

[silk current]

than +13 dagger, +10 sword and need +52 from set

[random nova]

tower of challenge from retail

[random nova]

if you go for +13 dagger, then 2 gear parts +13 and 3 has to be +12

[silk current]

+10 sword didnt count then i see

[random nova]

They add it back in classic? Anyone knows rewards from it?

no idea if they bother to show or upload, but its ranking system

[dense shadow]

Pve is +5% pve def at 80

[blissful harbor]

lol useless

[tough portal]

guys how do you pefrmor jump buff in hide with no sound?

perform*

[random nova]

dont think anyone can hear you in hide

[vivid wagon]

you jump and if your character is on the ground u see a short leg/knee animation and if you use a buff you will notice that the buff has no animation and no sound

[vivid wagon]

very friendly xd

[tough portal]

i see thx

[random nova]

i mean did you ever heared a sin in hide?

[vivid wagon]

ye

[tough portal]

yep if hes near you

even ely sin

[vivid wagon]

play since 2011

[vivid wagon]

u can practice it but not rly worth depends still on your speed

[tough portal]

ok

hahaha first 2 tries 2 in a row

lol ty man xD

[vivid wagon]

your welcome can dm me anytime

[tough portal]

thx fk 5 in row

sure thing thx again xd

[vivid wagon]

dont forget buffs like slayer pop you out from hide "stance"

[tough portal]

yeah i noticed

[vivid wagon]

hide I -> no buffs u get instantly outside
hide II 2 buffs
dp hide/windwalk 3buffs
shadowwalk 3buffs

Assasin step (hide I -> u pop instant outside)

[tough portal]

and sin step ? anything goes in that 3 sec window?

i see

[vivid wagon]

its hide I

[tough portal]

ok noted

[vivid wagon]

mostly u can use it do stall 50% of the shock remove if the enemy use shock remove or

if u got him in airbind and u cant finish him u can also use assasin step ( hint if you use it and for example behind you is a wall or object whatever u get only the leap at the wall/object so u can more or less negate the leap and get profit of the 2 sec stun

[tough portal]

cool

50e is good for sin right i shouldnt bother with armor and wait for 3.0 and get gbg wep/accs until then??

[vivid wagon]

50e is for dmg wise good but rly bad defense stats

gbg weapon > all ( main hand give u the most scale dmg - )

[blissful harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/hot-fans-self-so-hot-sweating-panting-gif-15978302

[vivid wagon]

U got wet dreams? 😂

[blissful harbor]

might have, if your DMs, that open🥵

[vivid wagon]

i will close now!

[patent kelp]

guys in next patch sin doesnt need 2 pvp weapons?

[ivory lance]

When new pvp weps come yes. Not sure if 3.0, maybe the patch after?

[patent kelp]

its 3.2 then i think

the 3.0 part 2 idk

[ivory lance]

Mm

[blissful harbor]

3.2

[patent kelp]

and do we get something with the velator skillbook in the future or are they still locked by these

[blissful harbor]

3.0 wb drops it with better rates i believe and some other skills in chest ans shit

[tough portal]

anyone got this before i cant enter dredge keeps disconnecting me

[tough portal]

i get dc even when i want to go to apheta , it seems whenever i enter the cross server

[ivory lance]

Never had any issue

Granted I don’t run dred at the moment. But no probs in apheta

[patent kelp]

guys double dagger or dagger and sword in incoming patches?

[vivid wagon]

D/S in 3.x (sword has macc on his bonus stats that will be important) sin has always macc problems it was on retail a lot better at 3.7

[primal garden]

yo, how much accuracy is needed on acc sets for pvp?

[vivid wagon]

depends if u wanna prep against evasion gear (rangers mostly)

[primal garden]

yes

i'm not getting through shield temps so idc about those

but have a set to counter eva ranger and cleri/chant block builds

[vivid wagon]

if temp is in stance u wont come throught it, temps has still to much and mostly its not worthy to switch because your accu gear ist mostly to bad in defense stats (only if u have cavalier parts for that) otherwise to dangerous to switch to 50e or 40e for accu gear u will die with 3 skills

[primal garden]

ye exactly

not worth for temps

it's just a mu you accept

i'm going cavalier for accuracy though

[vivid wagon]

what u mean with "mu"?

3k accu is good enough for 90% of the players

ranger is the only problem if he uses asmo mau for evasion buff/stat

[primal garden]

matchup

[primal garden]

how much evasion do they get with that?

because ranger is a hard matchup imo

but maybe 3k is enough and you just oath vs those

[vivid wagon]

ranger come at 3.1 (+ dodging I / evasion eye) evasion with gbg gear and weapon on evasion asmo mau give 120 evasion so they are round about at 3.3

i have 3.1 accu and keep oath if they use asmo mau

AND drink coffee XD

u can also build evasion gear for troll but only useable with evasion buffs to most rangers has no accu set xD its rly funny

[primal garden]

that stacks with food right?

you have 3.1 post food, candy etc?

[vivid wagon]

ye

[primal garden]

achievable

btw, what food do you use ?

i need to start buying proper food

just using the event one atm

[vivid wagon]

Tasty Innesi Herb Dumpling ( 60 crit , 60 accu , 30 evasion, 15 flytime)

[primal garden]

let me add it to my notes

final q, probably obvious

for acc sets, first priority is maxing accuracy AND THEN slot in crit

correct?

[vivid wagon]

ye u want that ur skills hit the target and then u go for crit because with 500 crit strike u dont crit anymore like 5% thats nothing and u have 0 dmg

[primal garden]

ye, max accuracy first

all those acc manastones i saved these months will finally pay off xd

thanks for the help bro

gonna keep farming cav set

[vivid wagon]

https://aiongear.fun/eng/eu28/gladiator use this calc for it

normally u can go for 3 cav parts

cav shoulder is rly good for the acc set because it gives crit on his base stats instead atk

[grizzled current]

i think i only did 3 small cav in calc and keep chest pants gbg

for acc

[vivid wagon]

ye like checka said

[primal garden]

i have 0 gbg

💀

running around in shitty 50

[vivid wagon]

depends how he socket his main set if he put in the other 2 big parts( pants and chest) crit

[grizzled current]

ye

[primal garden]

ye that's the first part i went for

i got cav chest shoulders

[grizzled current]

if you go full cav you can do it diff

[primal garden]

i think i'll prob go full cav

already 2 pieces in

i'll need my plats for accs

[grizzled current]

i had gbg pre 2.8 and wanted to save on black gold medals too couse i went full cloth set 1st

[primal garden]

ye, heard cav cloth is bis for ma

which i really need as well

that's second priority

i'll just use atk on e50

can't have everything at once

[vivid wagon]

at the end if u are a solo player macc set is more worth to go for it

thats why checka and me did that

[primal garden]

ye

that's gonna be what i do after acc

ap is easy nowadays

just concerned about lack of medals

i hope we have good ways to farm ebony medals in 3.0

don't want to downgrade new medals

[grizzled current]

i will downgrade

ill prob skipp the 1st lvl 60 set

[primal garden]

ye, because they're gonna have the same set with some cracked effects later one right?

[grizzled current]

ye

[primal garden]

ye, what you said reminded me

it's prob safe to downgrade some medals

at first

[grizzled current]

ye

well also i have the luxery of having enough plat medals

in case i need to turn in another +13 weapon for the 3.2 patch

[primal garden]

for the new weapons

[grizzled current]

ye

[primal garden]

but isn't that the patch where you only need 1 pvp weapon?

as a dual wielder?

so not as expensive

[grizzled current]

ye but i need 1 for att set 1 for mboost

[primal garden]

fucking sin man

we're expensive as fuck

[grizzled current]

and im 100% gonna trade down medals to black gold early

couse i want more cloth pieces

[primal garden]

you're doing cav as mb set as well?

[grizzled current]

my set is full mb rn

i want 3-4 dupe cav pieces for macc

[primal garden]

ah, you went for mb first

[grizzled current]

ye still its best set couse the base macc is so high

[primal garden]

i'll prob use the e50 from dred for mb while i get a proper ma set

[grizzled current]

ye 50e cloth is good for either

mb or macc

cav just allows good stats in both

at same time

[vivid wagon]

ye 50e macc is only bad in secondary stats and defensive wise but mboost is almost the same like cavalier

[primal garden]

ye and you barely are in those sets a while

[grizzled current]

ye

[primal garden]

just to pop your runes etc

[grizzled current]

what i rly need is the 1 extra skillbar from 3.0

😂

[primal garden]

SAME

holy

[vivid wagon]

haha xD

[primal garden]

i'm creating space out of my ass

do you use those synapse macros and shit?

[blissful harbor]

checcka uses extra rows of fingers instead of synapse

https://tenor.com/view/trip-psychedelic-fingers-gif-5300235

[primal garden]

Asking because that takes even more quickbar slots

Getting impossible to have everything

[blissful harbor]

yea bro i have nothing left to bind 😂😂

im waiting for the extra slots in 3.0

im fullt binded, still need a few more

[primal garden]

But is it confirmed?

[blissful harbor]

as i know ye

[vivid wagon]

It’s confirmed

[primal garden]

Fu king epic

[blissful harbor]

Dms open also confirmed?🫢

[vivid wagon]

xD u can try

[primal garden]

Did he just slid?

🫣

[zinc bluff]

Guys, will the Assassin class use only one pvp weapon in 3.0? Will the second pvp weapon not function?

[patent kelp]

3.2 i think

u get full pvp bonus like other classes from 1 weapon

so u can play pve one + pvp

[vivid wagon]

U play at 3.2 pve dagger because skill dmg is scaled by the mainhand ( - more white attack that’s why)
And go for the new ap sword because it has macc in his bonus stats ( important for mainhand dagger is use a weapon with accu)

[zinc bluff]

Ty guys

[blissful harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/dawg-skull-emoji-gif-24661581

[dense shadow]

It's the pve sword that has macc not the pvp one.

[vivid wagon]

Ty for correction
Important is that already for mboost set use pvp dagger and pve sword for macc stats
And for phys set also pve weapon on mainhand it has to 99% better stats and your skill dmg and hits overall will grow.

[blissful harbor]

and white atk has 1.10 value

i think most will use pve D+ pvp sword main set

pvp dagger MB+pve sword mb and just swap around a few ma pieces and it will be fine

that 70ma on sword is huge

[lime badger]

So 3.0 we will get new accessories right?

[rancid ledge]

And new stuff i think

[blissful harbor]

yes and armor

weaps 3.2

[random nova]

Isnt there new accs in 3.2 aswell?

[patent kelp]

yea there are new accs for pvp that are upgreadable

and costs the same medals

[random nova]

I think most people in NA skipped 3.0 accs and went for armor instead and then 3.2 accs

[primal garden]

but the 3.0 armor will have a literal better version in 3.4

sowe just skip all gear in 3.0 😂

[dense shadow]

the best long term play would be not buy any of the 3.0 armor/accs and save miths for weapon in 3.2 then later the new armor/accs

still only kr has the new armor/accs though so might be waiting awhile

[primal garden]

ye if you're not already maxed out then it's just better to wait for the later versions of the gear

i still need a cav set as well

so will just focus on that

[dense shadow]

medal gain for cav is kind of slow though sadly. only 12 per week unless you convert miths. it changes it plats in 3.2 though

[primal garden]

that fucking sucks

how do you get ebony medals in 3.0?

[dense shadow]

theres 4 weeklies in the new map that give 3 each

so 12 per week unless you convert miths down 1 to 1

so if you want more pieces and the 12/week isnt enough then the choice is either wait till 3.2 where you can buy cav with plats or downgrade mith

[primal garden]

fuck me

that's such a low amount

and dred q's give mith medals

i assume

[dense shadow]

yea basically everything changes to miths

[patent kelp]

and the set price of 3.2 set

isnt abysmal?

[primal garden]

btw, how does sanctification work?

[random nova]

You pay to get it to rank 2, it decreases over time when you use it, so you will have to keep paying to rank it up again

I think its like once every two-three weeks you have to do it

[dense shadow]

the 3.0 armor is 630 medals and 6.255kk ap. the newer armor (3.4 or whatever you want to call it) is 750 medals and 10.8kk ap

the newer armor also just got another buff in kr, each piece gives 0.4% more pvp than before

[primal garden]

damn, 2 to 3 weeks is a lot

do people take sanctification into account when getting gear?

for stats and shit

[patent kelp]

there gonna be more ap tho?

sources

i mean

[dense shadow]

ap gain in 3.0 is fairly similar. in 3.2 it gets a bit worse because of the pvp ap changes where you will make a lot less from pvp.

[patent kelp]

bruh

10.8kk ap

[blissful harbor]

yea K got i bur as far as i know NA havent got it? just the NPC

[blissful harbor]

2 accs from 3.0 would be preferable due to better possabilitys on swapping gear 1 earring and 1 ring

[dense shadow]

yea that would be a use case for sure

[blissful harbor]

3.0 set also better, due to that troll shit that comes after is barely any diff

new set is like 22 atk more then or something

[dense shadow]

Are you thinking of the pve set? The pvp set that comes later has the same attack. You gain acc, strike/spell fort, magic supp, pvp def and the passive over the 3.0 pvp armor

[blissful harbor]

that procc shit on atk is useless tho

tbh i havent looked past that, ut have more acc then regular 60? and every other?

[blissful harbor]

need to check what diff is, its that armor where every piece cost same?

[dense shadow]

https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/Item/110301418

3.0 chest

https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/Item/110301437

3.4 chest

Kr just upgrade the 3.4 ones to have 0.4% more pvp def each which isn't shown

[blissful harbor]

what?

magic boost? im lost

[blissful harbor]

i was refering to eternal, but how powerbook works with that idk

[dense shadow]

Make sure you have classic selected

[blissful harbor]

yea thats just not worth going first 60 set if its similar next pieces

if its same atk and huge acc gain thats just to good

its that armor that give chance on atk to reset FE by a couple of seconds?

[primal garden]

i believe so

[blissful harbor]

100% tought that was a troll armor when i saw it released on stream😂

[primal garden]

same

still in disbelief that's going to be a thing

i believe it's fe and devotion

[blissful harbor]

but enough good stats to skip first 60 now when atleast i saw its number

[primal garden]

so uptime on devotion is nuts

[blissful harbor]

AND devo?

[primal garden]

i think so?

don't quote me

i mean, fe is already broken

[blissful harbor]

na but still chest got same atk + 40 acc extra

[primal garden]

decent procs and you're untouchable

[blissful harbor]

thats just imo nuts

[primal garden]

i'm just going to skip 3.0 armor

[blissful harbor]

+shadowfall resets it too

[primal garden]

will get 1 ring and earring for synapse

[blissful harbor]

atleast 1 earring and 1 ring😂

[primal garden]

ye but i think shadowfall will be hard to get

[primal garden]

why 2 rings

[blissful harbor]

typoo

[primal garden]

ah

shadowfall is weekly wb

same as obliteration rn

so ye, gl getting that

or paying ridiculous amounts of money

obliteration is going for like over 200 million

[blissful harbor]

thats insane because that shit is 9/10 useless

good group clipping wings for decent ap atleast 😂

i mean i get shadowfall will cost 200kk😂

but atleast 3.0 wb holds more value then shitty velator

[primal garden]

does obliteration stack with poison?

[dense shadow]

I've seen people in kr do cloth boots too for the HP/mp procs

[primal garden]

the regular poison

[primal garden]

ye, it's cool

having those hp mp procs is crazy

i think i'll prob go that route as well

just stick with shitty e50 until that gear drops

😂

[dense shadow]

9% for 600hp is so good

[blissful harbor]

yes, but its the slow part that actually makes it dogshit xD even if its good procc in general

[primal garden]

why is slow bad?

[blissful harbor]

wait wait, 9% for 600hp gain proc?

[blissful harbor]

most slow resist/ movement restriction removes takes it away

[primal garden]

ah

[blissful harbor]

every class besides cleric have one xD

[primal garden]

and it's an unique debuff, merged with poison

[blissful harbor]

yea i have movement speed slow godstone offhand

so if i see it procc and they remove it, u can slap it 100% atleast 😂

[primal garden]

ye same, slow movement speed in itself is cool

that's why i was asking

btw, are runes removed by greater healing potions?

never noticed that

[blissful harbor]

tbh think those are undispellable

[primal garden]

so can't be used for covering

[blissful harbor]

we have 3 basic things to cover with

lightning/agonizing slash
poison
obliterate

xD

and blind too, if u wana cover just silence

[primal garden]

ye, i don't have lightning or agonizing

have to cover with poison and blind burst

so once every 3 mins

[blissful harbor]

i just dont care to cover xD

[primal garden]

if you have good dps ye but i wasted most of my resources on sw gear

[blissful harbor]

blind sorcs so they can either pot or sit out -300ma

[primal garden]

so my e50 set is super shit

[blissful harbor]

i have gb accs+sw atk xD

and gbg weaps xD

[primal garden]

that's your pvp set?

[blissful harbor]

im waiting 3.0,manastones suck, and i can buy full atk set cav+gbg if i wait instant 5 pieces then

[primal garden]

i'm getting cavalier atm

for acc set

[blissful harbor]

50% ap reduction cost is to huge for me casual to pass

[primal garden]

on cavalier?

[blissful harbor]

cav + gbg armor and accessorys is -50% ap cost

2.5kk instead of 5kk full armor😂

[primal garden]

you're joking right?

i thought it was only gbg accs that were 50% off

i already bought 2 cav pieces

[blissful harbor]

thats why i wait xD

[dense shadow]

Yea the cloth passive is 9% chance for 600 HP and 500mp. Really strong, can get boots which have the least impact

[blissful harbor]

that insane , is it every hit like oh+mh+skill?

[dense shadow]

Uhh every hit

[blissful harbor]

😳

[dense shadow]

Not sure about mh and oh counting separate or not

[blissful harbor]

so if u lucky u can negate wintry😂

[blissful harbor]

dam yea if that it thats chance for 1800 per skill weave😂

or if its somehow bound to some kind or ppm (proccs per minute)

[primal garden]

fucking hell

i wasted a ton of ap buying those 2 pieces

[blissful harbor]

i mean either way, ap is izi

i prob gona try go for rest cav pieces later as im lazy casual

[primal garden]

ye but it's still a ton of ap saved

[blissful harbor]

true x)

[primal garden]

i'll prov just save ap then

for next patch

or until i have no more room for more relics

xd

[blissful harbor]

i have some room left xD 2kk atm stored

[primal garden]

ye, that's about what i can store at the moment

but i can def clean my warehouse a bit

issue is i prob won't be able to store all the ap i farm until 3.0

i'll def run out of space before

[grizzled current]

ye same here, already got my gbg att and atm 2 cav acc pieces to 13 for blind gs reduction

will skipp 1st 60 set

so 3.0 only 1 ring 1 earring, save medals and ap

3.2 is 2 weapons and wings

i do have plat medals rdy in case its actually possible ot turn in 2 gbg weapons for total of 14 tokens

[primal garden]

i wanted to finish cav 5 piece before 3.0

but don't think i can farm enough medals for that

[grizzled current]

well i will also trade some mithril down to black gold in 3.0

so its no bad

even if you go for another set then cav is still a good acc set

[dense shadow]

There is no limit, you can turn in as many weapons as you want as long as they are +13 or better

[grizzled current]

even if same twice?

couse the text in the quest was sus

"only one in that category bla bla"

and finding na players that actually tried is rare

[dense shadow]

There's a couple menus to select which weapon you are turning in but yes you can. I turned in 2 maces for example

[grizzled current]

ah thats nice so

does it work like the pre e 30 40 50 turn in

where if you had 2 it would choose one random

[dense shadow]

Yea put anything you want to keep in the warehouse

[grizzled current]

pet also works

[dense shadow]

I would assume yea

[grizzled current]

i did with pet when i turned in 50e

cloth

[dense shadow]

There's a couple menus, one picking which class type then which weapon. Then a final confirmation atter

So for example if you pick priest, it then asks if you want to turn in a mace, staff or shield

[grizzled current]

currently it looks like they are on schedule to bring 3.0 this year

so late november or early december

only those make sense

[primal garden]

ye i wouldn't mind doing that to finish acc set, issue is if i want another cav set for ma

i'd have to trade mith medals for a whole set

which is just too much

[grizzled current]

if you dont have ap issues you can have chest pants cav for both

3p egbg att and 3p cav acc

but getting ahead of ap does take a while

[dense shadow]

Armor is 50% AP cost in 3.0

[grizzled current]

thats massive to catch up

[primal garden]

ye

i'll just save ap for 3.0

[dense shadow]

Yea and even easier in 3.2 when you can buy cav with plats and plats are tradable

[grizzled current]

im at 7 cav pieces atm

1 more and my min is done

after that ill prob safe for 2nd cloth set with reduced ap at 3.0

[primal garden]

you're going full cav for ma?

[grizzled current]

atm i have full cav cloth mb

with 3.2 weapons on mb (pvp dagger/pve sword) i would want a full or at least 4 piece cav cloth macc ye

[primal garden]

holy

what are you using for macc atm?

[grizzled current]

50e cloth, gbg dagger on att( main weap) and 6slot sw dagger offhand full macc

[primal garden]

that gets the job done, i reckon

[grizzled current]

it kinda does

[primal garden]

i was thinking of going e55 for ma, it does have a macc bonus

[grizzled current]

but the benefit would be to have alot more mb while beeing on macc set

[primal garden]

ye but budget 💀

[grizzled current]

ye well i didnt look into those options so i never put it into gear calc

[primal garden]

btw, with so many sets, hjow much do you spend on sanctification per month?

[grizzled current]

well the cloth just doing 1 rune then switching again

it barely goes down

[primal garden]

ah, so it's only when you have the set on

[grizzled current]

ye

[primal garden]

that's fucking epic

[grizzled current]

thats also where pve set comes in

so pve doesnt just passivly cost kinah

[primal garden]

ye, it doesn't really matter if you're just using it to pop and go back

i was actually thinking of getting sw or something for macc

tbh

but cav has more iirc

[grizzled current]

also another note

if you want to minmax pve and pvp i would put crit into chest and pants

to swap 3 small parts for att or acc in pvp

[primal garden]

you use pvp gear for pve?

[grizzled current]

but whats actually better with deff sets in mind

is to have a weapon with crit

so you can change a full set instead

[grizzled current]

the weapons

[primal garden]

ah

[grizzled current]

if i were to minmax pvp only in mind

i would socket a gbg weapon to crit

[primal garden]

i have attack on both weapons

[grizzled current]

so i can more freely swap to evade or mr set for example

ye same atm too

so i dont lose att for siege and stuff

[primal garden]

ye but i was thinking of slotting crit in the future weapons, you always need to max crit, the amount of the attack you have remaining goes into armor

[grizzled current]

i might change that tho with 3.2 ye

[primal garden]

ye, i assume they'll keep increasing the required crit for pve as well

[grizzled current]

yea

i might even change it in 3.0 already

[primal garden]

you got balls trying to slot both weapons from 0 😂

[grizzled current]

well id just change 1

for now

[primal garden]

fair

i mgiht do it too

when i finish acc set

if i notice i'm missing stats due to attack on weapons

i'll make the swap

[grizzled current]

well thats were calc comes in

and the diff on shoulders from gbg to cav

[primal garden]

ye, i gotta spend some time in the calc

one of these days

to calculate how to hit the acc

3k iirc

[grizzled current]

my combo of chest pants gbg and small parts cav will have 2984 or something without acc candy

full cav can hit 3.1 while having the same 850 crit

if you have gbg and cav shoulders just always calc it with cav shoulders full acc and gbg shoulders 2x crit 4x att

[primal garden]

ye i'm just going full cav

i don't have gbg

so might as well go for cav

[grizzled current]

you should rly look at your options in calc

in terms of plat, black gold and ap for 3.0

while keeping in mind min 1 pvp weapon with current na patch 3.0 part 2

[primal garden]

ye, i really have to

the calc is only current eu version?

[dense shadow]

Aiongear has current na patch as well

Nothing for kr patch that I'm aware of

[primal garden]

good

easier to plan ahead

[primal garden]

@blissful harbor devotion too LMAO

[blissful harbor]

use clear focus when using evasion x) problem solved

[primal garden]

no way people use clear focus

[blissful harbor]

yea insane use cloth boots too

[primal garden]

a good sin is going to be fucking cracked

[blissful harbor]

devotion up on both flurry and slayer🙌

[primal garden]

that sounds fucking stupid

[zinc bluff]

Guys im thinking of making dual ABG swords. My ping is between 18 and 22. Or should I make Classic dagger and sword? Ty

[blissful harbor]

dont do dual swords

d/s all the way

[blissful harbor]

waht stupid is sleeping storm went trough my FE today xD

had 3 sec FE left, and got slept

[zinc bluff]

oke ty so much

[primal garden]

what

how

surely that's a bug?

[blissful harbor]

well idk, felt wierd getting hit and having 3 sec left on Fe xD

[brazen shadow]

how much critt/acc/atk is recommended for sin alt for pve?

not pd/wol

[blissful harbor]

650 crit, ~2.2k acc rest atk

[brazen shadow]

many thanks

[lime badger]

Guys, what patch comes out this new pve gear?

[patent kelp]

3.2 from new instance allos cosmos

Or it was 3.4 idk

[dense shadow]

Yea 3.2 (3.0 part 2) it replaces bt. Drop rate is pretty bad though. Maybe one drop every few runs

[primal garden]

think i'll keep my sw then

shit drop rate for +12 attack

[dense shadow]

Without buying parts it probably would take months to drop the full set yourself

[primal garden]

i buy parts but considering the weapons are good, i'd rather just save for that instead

maybe if i get lucky and drop a good amount of armor

but i'll most likely just wait for the next armor set to farm

sw should be more than fine anyways

[dense shadow]

Yea weapons would be higher priority for sure. Then probably pve accs before armor if you care about that.

Rates for all the 3.2 stuff is bad though

[primal garden]

i mean if those pvew accs are like the wol ones

not worth

[dense shadow]

better than the wol ones but yea i get what you mean

[primal garden]

no crit though

ig it depends on how much crit resist the new fights have

[blissful harbor]

they are worth it 100%

[primal garden]

boys we get a crit passive next patch

https://aionpowerbook.com/powerbook/Skill/3007

this is fucking insane

[grizzled current]

20 crit ye

from 100 to 120 nothing major

[mild storm]

any sins finished the deathbringer event yet?

[grizzled current]

minimum 3 idk if more

[lime badger]

yo, does anyone have link with detailed skills discription? I cant find it here...

[grizzled current]

@vivid wagon you finished 500 kills on day1 right?

[blissful harbor]

thats nasty dedication

i have 0

[grizzled current]

i couldnt start right after maint

i started like 5h late

[blissful harbor]

500 kills is bonkers, still xD

[grizzled current]

the stupid thing is

its last hits of your grp

[blissful harbor]

fk, so individual

[grizzled current]

not kill ping, not just hitting target like your kill sheet at ap tab

[blissful harbor]

so u can snipe other groups? just last hit? xD

[grizzled current]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1041690313145712680/1306551170340229162/image.png?ex=673bb159&is=673a5fd9&hm=aae8233bac3bc942a2806f67674055fe21ffdf45a0c61df3dc6bddb4a7fcee7c&

[grizzled current]

solo would be way to slow

so grp up and tryhard last hits 😂

[blissful harbor]

wym? don u also have 12 rank 1 friends to pvp with 1v12 fair fight?

[grizzled current]

we did find some traders

[blissful harbor]

xD

[grizzled current]

i rly hope they filter them out

[blissful harbor]

indeed

[grizzled current]

id be fine not getting top3 to someone doing it legit

but if one of the traders gets it im gonna be mad

[blissful harbor]

what does top 1-3 get?

[grizzled current]

the deathbringer title permanent

[vivid wagon]

Hi normally yes but I don’t play anymore don’t think I‘ll come back.

[grizzled current]

oh i see

[primal garden]

i finished sunday morning

it was fun but ehxausting

although i did still a ton of kills

xd

that place where asmos camp before 66

the mountain by the ws

flying in hide there

and sniping kills whilst mages were throwing spells at each other

[grizzled current]

i dont know other sins that could have done it day1, so for now it looks like ecraze is 1st and im 2nd

oh ye daggered maybe

[warped raptor]

The day i left , they added the event.

I have 0 kills

[grizzled current]

rip

[warped raptor]

Will start today, just 500 tho.

[grizzled current]

you only need 500 anyway

but its last hits

[primal garden]

only 500 xd

yiu guys are wild

[warped raptor]

If my team member kills, counts for me ?

[grizzled current]

ye in grp

[warped raptor]

Or i have to solo

[grizzled current]

grp counts

[patent kelp]

Not bad if you have group

Managed to get 350 in like 6 hours

[grizzled current]

there was 1 trader sin that we cought, i rly hope that guy isnt in top 3

[warped raptor]

Name

Should be bannable, can be considered as AP trading

[grizzled current]

i have to check name when home from screenshot

[solemn atlas]

I finished thrusday in morning but still doing kills🤭

[grizzled current]

what time did you finish it

[solemn atlas]

I don't remember, but it was Thursday morning between 10 - 12h Canary time

What I have seen now that I have finished the event and I am doing the road map alone, is that there are many players killing themselves.

Using Google translator, no laught please

[grizzled current]

ye so many just jump off cliffs

im close behind ecraze so you could either be ahead or after in terms of finishing pass

[solemn atlas]

I really don't mind if they kill themselves, because I understand that many do it to farm enchants and supplys, as long as they didn't do it to be in the top 1,2,3 because that would bother me.

[grizzled current]

ye we also found alot of traders

[solemn atlas]

Yes I tried to finish the event fast to get the permanent title, but to be honest if he won it well and if not it will be fine too.

Traders are those ppl killing thenselves?

[grizzled current]

ye

[ancient gate]

I was wondering one thing, do you guys have an accuracy set ?

[grizzled current]

yes lol

for ranger having 3 small cav pieces on acc is enough currently

my current sets https://aiongear.fun/eng/na28/assassin?build=81b0e818-54a2-4b55-a347-35a0abb1972f

[ancient gate]

Hm I've never faced a ranger who was playing in dodge set

I just use the skill that has 1 min cd that reduces by 800

But in arena it won't be that easy I guess

[ancient gate]

Speaking of your set, isn't it too much magic accuracy you have on 50e ?

Isn't it better to just go like 3 or 4 parts magic accuracy and rest for magic boost ?

[grizzled current]

its for when i dont have oath but want to hit mr clerics/sorc with eleward/sm with buff

you dont always have slayer or oath rdy

im even going to upgrade that macc set

and buy another full cav cloth

[primal garden]

you're gonna socket new cav set with just ma as well?

[ancient gate]

cav gives so much MA, it's insane

[grizzled current]

yes

so i have both cav full mb full macc

[grizzled current]

hidemaster was the sin and linea was another char but looks like both of those were just the alts that took all the death

[primal garden]

i saw that sw dagger

xd

[primal garden]

@grizzled current first bt in ages and this drops xd

[ancient gate]

I must be blind but in patch note, throw dagger is not mentioned

I had confirmation that it will remove shields

But I can't find that part

[primal garden]

ye

i didn't see killer eye as well

[rocky cloak]

they didnt want us to have those skills because templar would be too weak else

[primal garden]

ofc bro, poor templars

shit class, give it another pull

[primal garden]

that's such a meme

[ivory lance]

Especially weak against sin 😁

[spark forum]

Guys, do i still need Plat medals for 3.0? Or can i just skip them completly?

[primal garden]

I hope the changes to dagger amd killer eye stay

And they just forgot to add them to the notes

[grizzled current]

its most likely just missing in the notes

[spark forum]

I just checked the new acc for 3.0
Imho for physical classes, they are not worth it

The upgrade is minuscuale

[grizzled current]

ye and na doesnt even have the better ones yet

so the good accs are quite far away for eu

[spark forum]

So no new weapons, no no acc....."just" a new armor set

Mmhhh......no new dungeon, a new map

hum.....kinda dissappointing :/

[grizzled current]

tower of illu is new

ow drops are said to be alot better in the new map

and prefarming medals for once is also nice

[spark forum]

How many medals can you get daylie/weekly?

[pallid magnet]

“Kinda” don’t forget we don’t get the new manastones system. Aka where it don’t fail. Back to spending 200kk/balic piece slot to fail and disenchant that shit cuz of tilt

[spark forum]

Well....back to daylie medal grind and nothing else XD

[primal garden]

we do tough

[ancient gate]

Will protectorate coins change name in 3.0 ?

[ancient gate]

I won't lie, I've never seen those sins xd

[primal garden]

i think i've seen chuck

isn't he one of those soteria campers?

i've def seen his name around though

no idea about the other two though

[ancient gate]

You must be confusing him with "Garza" or "Elbabar"

[primal garden]

those guys camp too

maybe i am

but i know who he is

the other two, never seen them

[solemn atlas]

Me too broo jajajja only know Chuck but idk if legit, idk

[primal garden]

apparently a bunch of people traded

videos of it and shit

not surprised

[ancient gate]

Look for the first ranger on myaion

You will have an idea

[primal garden]

LOL

the fuck

just did

nice sw bow without pvp underfuse

[solemn atlas]

Big meme🤣

[grizzled current]

chuck is legit

the other 2? doubt

[blissful harbor]

greek penis name is also legit

but barely online👀

[grizzled current]

when did he finish it

[blissful harbor]

finish what? that kill event? i skipped it 😂

[grizzled current]

the guy you refered to

[blissful harbor]

inside info, he didint😂

he taking a bit break until 3.0 thats tomorrow or something?

[grizzled current]

ye

[ancient gate]

I've heard that Chuck was probably first

[grizzled current]

yea

[ancient gate]

That being said, I've no idea if there was any other asmo sin

Because it's easier as an asmo

[solemn atlas]

Maybe me, but idk if im in top 3, really dont care, but bruuu that rank is a meme ppl with taha weaps btw🤣🤣

[zinc bluff]

i've seen chuck but didn't see the others.

[ancient gate]

We will see in next few days probably the real ranking

[grizzled current]

i think you finished after ecraze and me

[rocky cloak]

pretty sure i won, just needed 10 days or so

dont need that title though, i can pass so Checka has a chance

[blissful harbor]

what did u get from finnishing the event?

[grizzled current]

top 3 per class get the title perma

but who knows if they manage to find correct data and filter out traders

[solemn atlas]

Yes probably, between weeks I can't play much.... But I'm glad they're going to fix it

I want events like this but on weekends

[blissful harbor]

op perma title or ? what is effect of it hah

[random nova]

PvP attack +2%
PvP defence +2%
Movement speed +5%
Attack speed +1%
Casting speed +1%

I guess its the same stats for perma title as the 30 days one

[blissful harbor]

oh thats a good one lol

dam if it only was 3% atkspeed

[grizzled current]

its still cap with slayer

[blissful harbor]

slayer+ candy ye

[grizzled current]

yes

[random nova]

Will MB set remain second most important set in 3.0 despite the introduction of magic sup? Or will it be MA set?

[grizzled current]

this is the stats once we have 3.2 with the pve sword

in that case its both weap mb even for the macc set

so having 300 msub isnt fully killing magic dmg

but hurts a little

@blissful harbor did you check kr latest skill additions

break away SKILLBOOK
the 2 surprise att chain skills
and dash attack chain skill( ambush with stun chance)

[ivory lance]

Ah they’re adding the old skills huh. I remember the dash chain was nice for insta shadowfall

[ancient gate]

Most likely

I was considering taking 1 fabled 55e weapon

to just have pvp attack

and one pve main dagger to have a good base magic accuracy

[primal garden]

do you guys know if the mithril medal set is better than cav for mbost?

[random nova]

Very much doubt so, otherwise checka wouldnt go for cav MB

[primal garden]

i should have specified, i meant the 3.5 set, with the additional effects

it's a better version of the 3.0 gear

[random nova]

Ah my bad

I think koreans go cloth boots on main set just for the HP regen bonus effect

[grizzled current]

the 60 set has crit spell instead of macc

complete ass

[primal garden]

that means i'll have to make a second cav set as well

i'll just stick with e50 for mb

and then make mb cav when possible

[grizzled current]

full 50e to full cav is like 10mb, 160 macc i think

[dense shadow]

That all changed when they added rerolls

[primal garden]

ye the macc difference is quite a bit but i'll just have to be more careful with buffs

oath gets it's cd shortened so it's gonna be easier to play around with it

just don't want to waste a free set

easier to socket as well

[primal garden]

how many updates into the future is that? from the gear's initial release

[dense shadow]

Uhh at least a couple months not sure without looking it up. They buffed the armor 4 different times. Depends how it's packaged for other regions

[primal garden]

jesus

4 different buffs

that's fucking crack

well

4 times

[dense shadow]

First was passive upgrade, then stat, then more pvp def, then passive rerolls

[primal garden]

i wonder if we'll receive all of it at once

but idk, we're getting more specific updates

so they may just package all of it at once

[dense shadow]

That would be my guess but hard to say

[primal garden]

ye

just need to wait

we'll see

[dense shadow]

Maybe not the rerolls right away

[primal garden]

things are getting weird

like, the upgradeable accs seem to be gone from other regions

[dense shadow]

Yea haven't released them yet even though they are in the part 2 game client.

I could see it being delayed and releasing all the acc and armor at once

[primal garden]

ye

so things are getting weird

you can't really know for sure what's to come

but it's also cool in a way, some people get too trapped prepping for the next update

and it goes on

[grizzled current]

the upgraded accs not existing is an issue for me with the 60 set

your acc will be so shit without the new accs

[primal garden]

surely they come by 3.4?

it's what i'd expect

[ancient gate]

There's one thing that bothers me with your mb set checka

You didn't go for 50e gloves which give attack speed

or was it your Macc set, I don't remember

[grizzled current]

ye it doesnt rly change anything

[ancient gate]

Wdym ? Rune won't be faster to launch ?

let me test quickly

[grizzled current]

its very minor

[ancient gate]

Indeed, it's slightly slower

I thought it would be way lower

[grizzled current]

silence pain airbind are fast anyway

and blood i delay more to swap back for the heal to trigger on mb

so id say its rly only noticeable on needle rune

[spark forum]

So full Cav for Mboost
Full GBG for Mress
And full new set for Att

Am i right?

[reef parcel]

das right

or full e50 for mb if u dont wanna farm for cav

[ancient gate]

You're losing a lot by not going on cav for mb

Going MR is expensive and not that much useful for me

[dense shadow]

3.5 set has 345mb and 75 ma, compared to 231 mb and 184 ma for cav

[primal garden]

hm

over 100mb

ma loss though

[ancient gate]

I'll take cav everyday

easier to get

[primal garden]

ye

the new gear is like 10kk ap

that's so crack

[ancient gate]

I'm really struggling deciding what I'll do

I still have 40e, I think I will go for gbg attack and mb cav

but idk if it is worth to go gbg or still waiting for 60 ap gears

[primal garden]

i'm using e50 as attack until 3.5

you're squishy but fuck it dude

it depends on how many resources you have and are willing to spend

i'm staying with e50 attack until 3.5

working on cav for macc

and i'll use the new e50 from dred for mb

eventually switching e50 to cav (mb)

already mostly finished with cav acc

[random nova]

Apparently the rng from azur medal -> plat medals are rly good next patch

If that is the case and azur drops in price it wont be hard to get gbg

[primal garden]

ye

and at 50%

it's really up to you

[dense shadow]

its rng, but 2 azure to 1 plat on average i would say

[primal garden]

e50 is decent though

[random nova]

That is rly good rng

Imo

[primal garden]

if you already have an enchanted/socketed e50 then just stick with it

imo

[random nova]

Idk if i played sin the last set i would get would be acc. It feels like anyone with half a brain favours mr set against sin anyways

But i dont play sin so i might be wrong on that

[primal garden]

tired of getting cucked by rangers

and chains sometimes switch around

i'm already finishing acc anyways

[random nova]

Tbh didnt think about evasion ranger, just for that fact im wrong. Nothing as frustrating as evasion rangers

[primal garden]

ikr

they're the worst

only less annoying than temp

or sm ofc

[ancient gate]

So far every evasion rangers were weird

I mean, they were playing only evasion, what's the point

They deal no dmg

[primal garden]

they're gonna start doing damage

with that -pvp defense shit

[ancient gate]

It's supposed to be a switch

[random nova]

That probably requires them to know when to switch, so its easier to just stay evasion lmao

[blissful harbor]

👀👀

[blissful harbor]

50e/cav is best, 10 mb diff

[spark forum]

I m going to calculate later how many Medals you can make daylie/weekly.

I m going Cav Cloth for Mboost while working at the same time for the new leather set for att/crit

AP should be fine, just medals are the bottleneck....but with converting into Plat Medals, it should be really easy to get a full Cav set

[random nova]

But will it be possible to convert plat medals into ebony medals?

[spark forum]

Good question....i only know about converting azure into plat medals

[dense shadow]

you can only convert miths to ebony

until part 2 that is, when you can buy cav with plats

theres weeklies that give 12 ebony per week so not much if you need alot

[random nova]

Guess if you want cav you will have to chose between that or the new sets then 😦

[spark forum]

mmhh....12 Ebony per week is really on the low end

Do you know how many Mithrils you can make weekly?

[dense shadow]

yea if you didnt get what you needed in 2.8 its slow unless you convert miths

its pretty much the same gain excluding siege

[spark forum]

So avarage 60-70 per week

[dense shadow]

32/week from dailiy/weekly quests plus everything else. it just changes from ebony to miths

biggest change is probably just siege

[spark forum]

Thats ok
Thanks for the information

But since we dont need the new acc (at least for phy damage), you can get the new armor set and then convert the rest to plat (if you want to)

[random nova]

I think the rate of gain for the new medals will be rly bad. I dont have faith in EU that we will be able to finish AB siege cause people will just pvp…

So will be left with one siege a week

[dense shadow]

it depends if you want to plan long term or not

if you want to plan long term then saving as many miths for future gear is better. can buy azure to get plats if you want gbg gear, but cav is harder to get until 3.2 (3.0 part 2) where you can buy it with plats

[grizzled current]

thats why i want 1-2 gbg weapons to trade in for tokens, saves alot of mitril medals

[spark forum]

One step after the other 🙂
First the new Leather Set for me

[spark forum]

Trade for tokens? Did i miss something? 0.o

[dense shadow]

you can turn in a +13 or better gbg weapon to get 7 weapon tokens. 10 weapon tokens gives you a weapon

otherwise you buy rng boxes for 21 miths and 196k ap where you have a 15% chance for a weapon and 85% chance for a token

[spark forum]

huh......mmmhhhkay

[dense shadow]

thats a few months out though since weapons come with the part 2 patch

[grizzled current]

i need 500 more ebony to finish 2nd cav cloth set

so i will trade some down

or i just get chest pants now for that 60 macc

and get 3 small later when they cost plat

thats prob better for the long run

[dense shadow]

probably yea since there will be so much to buy later on with miths

[grizzled current]

ye

[dense shadow]

just depends how long term you want to plan since it will be a while out

[grizzled current]

well part 2 is like 3-5 month away

[dense shadow]

yea could be 6 months for the new acc/armor

[grizzled current]

ill also safe alot of kinah for the pve weapons part 2

[dense shadow]

yea both part 2 instances have really bad drop rates

[blissful harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986

work overtime is izi to plan ahead

[spark forum]

I wonder why they deactivated all Stealth Skills in the PvP Zones

It is so important for Sins in combat, but now we dont have this tactical tool anymore

[rocky cloak]

because sin is way too op

if templars dont see you they cant use UD before you stun them, how unfair is that?!

[primal garden]

i still don't understand how we're supposed to loot those chests if they take so long

[primal garden]

but bro, the data shows templar has difficulties in pvp

[rocky cloak]

maybe its only me

but i dont think there is a class that loses to a sin who has no hide

im terrible though, maybe its different for other people

[primal garden]

i have no idea

hide is so important

it's dumb not to use it

[blissful harbor]

wait what?

[blissful harbor]

everything is around that😂

[primal garden]

exactly

sins getting cucked once again

[ancient gate]

hide and blind yes

[blissful harbor]

but is it true? i cant believe it tbh

its that neutral zone pvp? where chest are?

[rocky cloak]

chest is in the outlaw zone

where everyone can fight each other

so you can attack everything that is not in your grp

idk about hide

[blissful harbor]

if hide is dissabled there they just deleted a class in that zone😂

[warped raptor]

no Stun penetration on Killers Eye

bad news

[primal garden]

what

no way

[grizzled current]

and throw dagger?

[primal garden]

throw dagger is updated, ye

[primal garden]

wait

we have 2nd killer's eye

buffed version

it's a new skill

[grizzled current]

does that have it in describtion?

also does vendor sell sigil strike book

[warped raptor]

update, thers killer eye 2 in cloister with penetration

[grizzled current]

is there sigil trike too?

[warped raptor]

yeah

[grizzled current]

we get a bunch of new lvls of skills

and 2 passives

[rocky cloak]

hide is removed as soon as you enter those zones c:

[blissful harbor]

holy shit thats bad, sin cant do shit in those zones then

i love to hear wth they where thinking

[lime badger]

Is it worth to reroll for brawler then? 😅

[rocky cloak]

i mean, how often are you solo in those zones

everywhere else nothing has changed i guess

[gusty plank]

Always. 🥹. Pfff. And was thinking if is worth coming bk. …

[blissful harbor]

lawless zones just smal idiot places anyway, its fine

[primal garden]

ye

it's impossible to farm anything at the moment

even supply boxes are getting camped

[grizzled current]

the hidden mobs will be easiest to farm

so no need to spend alot for cross slash

[primal garden]

ye those are the easiest

already have some papers for that

slayer and killing spree though...

well killing spree is agates

which i'm close

slayer is going to be a bitch though

[grizzled current]

theres already a slayer2 that dropped

its day 2

[primal garden]

for 200kk

[grizzled current]

its the 1st one

slayer 1 to 2 is 500 hp and 100 macc right

[primal garden]

and extend flight reach

i know it's the 1st

but i'm just saying it's going to be a bitch until price drops

or people aren't camping elite mobs as much

[grizzled current]

slayer 1 also has flight extend

[patent kelp]

they drop from the summoned mobs

i mean the slayer 2

no

?

[grizzled current]

ye slayer drops from scroll summoned mobs

[primal garden]

didn't know that

thought it was just new slayer

[ancient gate]

@grizzled current how's the new solo dungeon

I saw you on the ranking

[grizzled current]

tricky

gotta get used to what bosses do

some stuff NEEDS to be outranged

[primal garden]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO_2nTbcz5k

there's a sin pov

he can fe some shit

but this dungeon looks weird to do

[ancient gate]

What's that noise when he's hitting ?

[primal garden]

no idea

it's so annoying though

[ancient gate]

I've tried it, it's really tricky

Staying almost everytime behind the mob

You can't evade everything

[mild storm]

im guessing that the pings are for the weaving

it tells him when to use skills

[primal garden]

holy

that's extreme sweatlord shit

[ancient gate]

Must be it

[grizzled current]

@blissful harbor easy

[blissful harbor]

i just peaked 12k xD

[primal garden]

just completed and tested a bit e50 mb set

sin feels like a completely different class with mb

holy shit

[blissful harbor]

100%, still anoying as fk

[rocky cloak]

its not as annoying as him dying to the boss with potion ready :c

but idk how much damage it is, maybe he would have been dead anyway :c

[blissful harbor]

most stuff that u dies from there are telegraphed oneshots? feels like that

[ancient gate]

Magic boost do improves rune's damage a lot

Unlike every sorc or sm gaining mb, it's not the same I think

That's why you want to search for accessories that give magic boost and magic accuracy

[blissful harbor]

1600 magic boost ~+177% dmg

[blissful harbor]

50 pvp earrings, rest 55 fabled is enough 🤣

[solemn atlas]

Neck+earrings e50 rings 55 pilus and abg belt

[ancient gate]

55 fabled necklace is better iirc

[solemn atlas]

It has mb? Didnt check

[ancient gate]

I think it does

[blissful harbor]

gbg have same ma as 55 fabled

and more spell crit instead of mb on rings

55 fabled except 50 earrings

and tac bandan or omega/corrundum glasses 50 vs 68 mb

[solemn atlas]

Any of news magic accs has Mb?