#Sin master race general

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solemn atlas
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Small gbg is? Yellow accs? And cav is?

alpine plaza
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but cav isnt in the game and i have allready 5 mio ap stored

ivory lance
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Small GBG would mean shoes, pauldrons and gloves.

Cav is new AP armour coming in 2.8

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You could always make MB set Sussor or buy abg bow or something

alpine plaza
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but why just 3 items?

ivory lance
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I guess this comes down to personal preference a bit but the three small eabg pieces give attack, cava gives accuracy/ma instead.

The two big cava give crit vs eabg attack. At manastone value the crit from cava is a bit higher.

Once you complete the 3 small eabg + 2 big cava for your new attack/crit set over 50e. You can socket the remaining 3 small cava accu later to replace your old accu set.

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You’ll be medal gated start of 2.8 either way

alpine plaza
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but cava set will not come this year isnt it?

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what should i do with all that ap and medals? go full abg?

ivory lance
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Cava set coming in 2.8 which is likely end of June this year

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You can also get the eternal wings if you haven’t yet

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If I had a lot of ap/medals to spare I would also get abg bow

alpine plaza
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so if thats true, i could save all my ap and wait for cava set and take it complet?

brittle wolf
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you'll need new medals for the cav set so although you can save up the required AP you'll still have to play for a while before you can get it

alpine plaza
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i got so many ap around^^ maybe is just take wings and wait for cava set... since ff14 addon is soon

alpine plaza
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or should i go complet abg if i had ap and medals?

brittle wolf
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2x Cav and 3x ABG will give you better stats than 5x ABG or even 5x Cav which is why i wouldn't complete your ABG set if you still have other stuff you can get

alpine plaza
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yeah but cav is not here

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and i got now enough for all XD

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so i go nbow 3 abg and 2 50e?

brittle wolf
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i haven't checked but i doubt it's worth to break up the set effect of the 50e

alpine plaza
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so i take now 55 abg and dont use it?^^

brittle wolf
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pretty much yes, just preparation for the next patch

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also the three small ABG parts, for Cav it's the chest and pants

alpine plaza
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oki

random nova
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Set 1 or set 2?

brittle wolf
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1

alpine plaza
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is the chain hat abg better then leather?

gusty plank
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I prefer it if u want my opinion

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You lose some Eva and gain def and mb

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
brittle wolf
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you don't need the 60 acc from the full Cav set

solemn atlas
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What is Cav?

ember loom
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Should i use another stigma instead of Sigil?

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Like lethal venom or lightning slash

brittle wolf
brittle wolf
# ember loom Should i use another stigma instead of Sigil?

i'd throw out deadly abandon, outside of pve it's not very good

imo lightning slash is a must have to cover, leathal venom is not very good because the damage scales with mboost

i personally like sigil strike a lot but at the end it's just a qol stigma and can be exchanged for a different stigma if you want

ember loom
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Mm yeah might just keep it like this i like Sigil aswell.

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thx

blissful harbor
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even if lightning slash only way of reliable covering silence/blind or both

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its still clunky and take too long imo

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and u have to most likely slideshot it 80% of the times xD

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3.0 it get qol not having to stand still

ember loom
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Yeah makes sense. Probably keep it like this till i get Sin step but very pricey atm.

blissful harbor
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it is xD

ember loom
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On 3.0 throw dagger can remove shields right?

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Can it remove sorc 10k shield?

blissful harbor
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yea

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2.8 it stuns and useable on ground
3.0 it also dispell shield efect

ember loom
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Sin will be alot stronger in 3.0

blissful harbor
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left cav, right 3+2 cav

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its w/e xD

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im gona try go for full cav, i dont like 60 pvp armor anyway

safe charm
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We get aoe throw dagger 3.0+ i think

blissful harbor
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aoe?

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no way?

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2.8 we get massacre? or was that also 3.0

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aoe throw dagger dispell would be amazing 😄 cant say no to that

safe charm
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will write this out properly another time, skill changes this week (unclear if more are coming next week or if this is it)

**templar **
aether armor
30s +800 mr but also +200 mr to your group

prayer of resilience
restores all group members within 25m hp

threatening taunt
reduces the cooldown of doom lure, tiamat pull + illusion chains by 30%

assassin
throw dagger
stun + shield remove effect changed from 1 target to up to 3 targets within 2m of the target

oath of accuracy
for 30s increases your acc/macc by 500 and party member's by 200

flash of speed
also puts you in basic stelath for 2s

dmg increase on some skills

ranger
breath of nature
also increases your group members hp by 1,000

calming whisper
group buff

sleep trap
up to 4 targets

spiritmaster
vacuum choke
aoe on up to 3 targets within 3m of the target

withering
changed to 30s duration, hp/mp decrease buffed from 2000 to 2200, healing boost reduction reduced from 1000 to 700 and can hit up to 3 targets within 3m of the target

stone skin (sm + sorc)
pvp def increased

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raer posted this

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Massacre is 2.8 i think

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Renamed to anahilation

blissful harbor
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assassin
throw dagger
stun + shield remove effect changed from 1 target to up to 3 targets within 2m of the target

oath of accuracy
for 30s increases your acc/macc by 500 and party member's by 200

flash of speed
also puts you in basic stelath for 2s

dmg increase on some skills

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this is TOTALLY HUGE

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holy shit, i just got a boner

gusty plank
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sounds good but dont think we gona use it later on with the 6s cd teleport

blissful harbor
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fos with basic stealth is huge

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slippery is nice

gusty plank
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3M CD THOUGH ...

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we ll get 30 sec cd sin step

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anyway we ll see

safe charm
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Overall 3.0+ seems very good for sins

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So many nice things

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I wonder will we ever get searching strike as well

blissful harbor
safe charm
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aoth 3.0 also Increases your Accuracy by 500 and Magic Accuracy by 500 for 30s.
3m Cooldown

dapper hornet
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@cosmic robin I can actually chat here

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let nobody see this

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stealth circle

dapper hornet
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keep it hidden, only we know about this

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and the, like, 40 other people in here

cosmic robin
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sure thing

dapper hornet
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no need to shit up the master race general though, this is about the sin class, what are you doing here sorc

cosmic robin
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im impostor

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waait let me get the role real quick

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so i pretend im sin too

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there

dapper hornet
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what do you think about the recent class changes?

cosmic robin
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i think that slayer form is really good and huge improvement for sins

dapper hornet
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the recent KR changes

dapper hornet
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kinda weird having a group buff now, sins are usually a rather selfish class.

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flash of speed stealth is ultra huge

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makes you elusive af

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I wonder how much damage those "some skills" got.

cosmic robin
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like throwing a little mini daggers

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that are made of plastic

dapper hornet
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aoe throw dagger sounds more op than it is.
2m is pretty much nothing.

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that stuff only hits if people have been pulled or something

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I don't like micro aoes in general, it's so clunky and useless in this game.

cosmic robin
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so sins became mini glads

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thats sus

dapper hornet
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dude they don't work in this game at all

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because of location data being imprecise

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even just standing around is a pain, if you wanna sit in front of someone it will apear like you're sitting like 3m away from them for someone else

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meanwhile, FFXIV manages to handle location data down to the exact pixel

cosmic robin
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ikr i tried to poke a guys eye out with point emote and it showed me pointing behind him instead in his eye

dapper hornet
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yea sucks

cosmic robin
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its important

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i think they need to work on it

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now he still got his eyes

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but he shouldnt

dapper hornet
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not gonna happen

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just give every melee class +5m range and we're good

cosmic robin
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any other channels u can write ?

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or just this

dapper hornet
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all forums

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but no channels

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only "threads"

cosmic robin
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what about LIVE ones

dapper hornet
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no

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only threads

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I can't post anything in any channel

cosmic robin
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alright

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wait i just read this class channel name

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sin master race

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does it mean sin is supermacy race

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thats racist

dapper hornet
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ît was my idea

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it just started out with people giving each other gear and progression advice, but devolved into general class talk rather quickly

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so it's sin master race now

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
dapper hornet
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yea some basics about gear progression or something

cosmic robin
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but dont tell anyone

blissful harbor
cosmic robin
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never shame

blissful harbor
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@cosmic robin when u rerolling sin?

cosmic robin
blissful harbor
dapper hornet
spark forum
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Fellow Sins i got a question:
Flarestorm Dagger + APG Sword
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APG Dagger + Tahabata Sword?

brittle wolf
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ABG dagger + Taha sword

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you always want your mainhand to be as good as possible since most of the damage comes from it

spark forum
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well, i have the Flarestorm Dagger, but have only enough AP + Medals for 1 APG Weapon for now......

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But i guess this is the right way to go

blissful harbor
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u can later reuse the gbg dagger for offhand if u wana get mb swap later patches, so aint bad for future either

dapper hornet
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you can also trade it in 3.0 for 70% of the mats required for the new pvp weapons

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guess that also counts for the sword cringe

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I'd go for the abg dagger too

spark forum
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I m going to get both PvP weapons anyway....just the question is what is best to get first when i have Flarestorm Dagger for MH

dapper hornet
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agb

blissful harbor
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with taha oh

lone walrus
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guys iv played sin know it was sometime i played it but i realize. that i often get owned cause they run away from me and i cant do a shit any tips how i can imrpove

brittle wolf
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that's not really something that can be answered with a general statement

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in this case a video of your gameplay would help

lone walrus
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sure

lone walrus
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guys should i put crit stones until i have 850 crit cause i have put in all crit in my gear only 1 gear peice is attack tho

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this is right ?

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cause somone told me put attack

dapper hornet
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if you wanna be independent of cooldowns, you go for 850 crit
if you wanna do more damage but be a cooldown andy, you can go for 750, but you'll be at 40% crit without clear focus if your target is hyper stacked

lone walrus
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think i will stick too 850 crit then

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i have 382 attack on main and with scrolls and food i have 850 crit

blissful harbor
lone walrus
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when u play pvp do u have a key thatu spam so u can auto attack/run toward them?

brittle wolf
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i just use the standard "c" for autoattacks but for movement you should move yourself and not just press autoattack, otherwise you'll lose a lot of time catching up since the autopathing is really bad

lone walrus
safe charm
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U need to autoattack between skills

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The more u practice the better the dps , plus after u learn to weave better , like cancel animation of autoattack

rancid ledge
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Yes it’s very important for up your dps

brittle wolf
# lone walrus i havent played with auto attack button am i losing dmg?

i assume that you do weave but instead of pressing autoattack (standard "c") you just weave by timing? in on itself there's nothing wrong with that on targets that are standing still

when you're chasing a target you'll want to press your autoattacks manually (personally i always press them manually anyway since that to me is easier), otherwise your autoattacks might not go through and you'll lose half of your potential damage

as for chasing targets there are two different techniques to ensure that you can consistently weave and hit your target / not be affected by "out of range" too much:

  1. you jump and press your autoattack and skill mid air (example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sb5KiINqdM), this works very well but you risk losing your target due to them switching direction while you're in the middle of your jump, i would not use this technique against enemies with good movement

  2. you stand still for a short amount of time (to let the server update your position), you press your autoattack and your skill, and then start moving again (it's not the best example but i can't think of a better video on top of my head https://youtu.be/gFgm0fdiUsw?si=P5NxW-LcrDqcqueA&t=29 / can also be seen in the other video), i generally recommed this technique over the other one although you may not want to use it against enemies with high movement speed (chanters, buffed rangers etc.) as it will allow them to gain distance over time

lone walrus
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i see

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i will start doing it then

lone walrus
pine zealot
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guys i havent really played much in classic and defo not experienced in clients under 4.5 so as sin im rockinh with tac armoe farmin for malikas if possible idk if worth it i got tahabata weaoons but not enchanted. is there some weapons that would benefit me more than tahabatas? im kinda struggling to see potential upgrades

blissful harbor
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next is either pvp or padma/veille

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if u dont have any good pvp accesorys yet, u go eternal pvp accesorys > pvp dagger> sword

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and i would use 40e at this point and just got 3 eternal pvp Smal pieces last, and fill out chest +legs in 2.8 cavalier pvp armor

random nova
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For the small price of 200 euros mastarius dagger can be yours

pine zealot
random nova
alpine plaza
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i might be wrong, but the highest possible att stat is 628 right?
Ive got some sins on asmo side who say, they get 640 unbuffed. and that with brig weaps and orki gear. im that wrong or are they just telling shit?

blissful harbor
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depends, pve hero can be a bit higher if u have veille/masta dagger in mh

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708 atk pve hero is possible without chanter 733 with

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fully gbg its 568, if u having 850 baseline crit, not beeing cooldown hero

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626 with chanter

pine zealot
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that going insanely minmaxed xD

blissful harbor
alpine plaza
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how you are able to hit 708? i tried every gear in gearl calculator and the highest i get was 628. well with +10 weaps

random nova
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Probably sw 6 slot and mastarius dagger and sword

alpine plaza
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that sin which i asked, said to me he had brig weaps +10 and orki set

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well i gues i will look again in gearcalc.

alpine plaza
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the chances of having 1 mastarius is kinda low and to ahve two of them it kinda is impossbile right now. to get them on +15 is even unthinkable.
So maybe some of those assas who hit 640 attk might shre there build and tell me where i got wrong^^

random nova
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Don’t think its that impossible to have dual masta/veille. I mean if you can afford to buy 60-70k quna you would have them easily. But yes its kinda rare.

alpine plaza
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even if gut those 2 weaps. you are still far away from 700 attk stat 😅

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the most sins. are building attk/krit. even with basic gear orki and abg on full attk is hitting at 640 attk. the might be possible with +15 weaps

random nova
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Yeah and also in your calculator you took double mastarius 6 slot which i think is borderline impossible cause all of them have been 5 slot so far i think. I think 6 slot is extremely rare. But anyhow, its rly only for minmaxers, you would need to pay 1k+ euro for the extra 10-20 attack

blissful harbor
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due to strike resist and missing crit on gbg dagger

alpine plaza
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yeah i took them, just to try to get to that said 708 or the 640 someone ingame said to me. but i couldnt recreat both stats^^
I was just kinda curios, how other sins dmg is coming. when im looking at raid dps meter and look at the top 1-3 assas and i see they dealing 600-800 dmg each AA i start getting curios^^

blissful harbor
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u gona fall short around 5-7 atks stones

alpine plaza
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yeah so tell me how u get 708 attk^^ at least u gave that number out^^

blissful harbor
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u could aim only atk5s, but be avg 40% crit without buffs

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sw 6 slot, veille weaps +15

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12 atk food, 2 atk candy

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atk wings

alpine plaza
blissful harbor
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yea me too

alpine plaza
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i got here ur gear. full orki 6 slot + 2 mastarius weaps. if u get them to +15 you are hitting 666

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so tell me where that other 40 attk come from

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and if u tell me that. tell me how a sin with just orki and abg weaps +10 is hitting 640 thanks^^ all unbuffed

alpine plaza
random nova
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Its not rocket science, either the calculator is wrong or someone lied to you. You pick which is more likely

alpine plaza
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eric says 708 is possible and the sin which i asked^^

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im just try to find out, how same geared sins dealing 600-800 dmg more each autoattack then other sins, which have the same gear^^ and i get as answer: i got 640 attack unbuffed^^

random nova
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Yes but eric said 708 is max, while someone said 640 is possible with sw set and abg wep. Erics claim is harder to check cause he didn’t specify what gear exactly

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But the asmo sin said sw gear and abg weps

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If you dont get 640 with that on calculator then either calculator is wrong or the asmo sin is lying

blissful harbor
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im making it again in gear calc

alpine plaza
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thats why i asked in first place, if the gear calculator ist correct^^

blissful harbor
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i must hav fat fingered some somewhere? 708 seems to be with chanter, having same i cant remake 708 xD

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i know it have some bugs tho

alpine plaza
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yeah it has some bugs, thats why i just wanna make sure not to miss something

blissful harbor
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674 with only food and candy

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i get now

alpine plaza
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yeah that u hit with orki and mastarius weaps i gues

ivory lance
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Seems you reach 638 mh with abg dagger +15 + sw 6 slot. With candy 640 which would make sense for that asmo sin 🙂

alpine plaza
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with +15 i would agree, but he posted me +10 dg and +12 sword^^ so yeah^^

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learns me to not trust the guys ingame which telling lies to cover shit they might have going on^^

blissful harbor
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he might had buff?

alpine plaza
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i asked him specaly unbuffed

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and i had im in target and just krit food was activ

blissful harbor
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avg atk will be alot lower pvp then pve

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due to 850 vs 650 crit

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and gbg dagger not having crit is alot of loss

alpine plaza
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i did it like that: i took 3 parts abg and have krit in them and resockeld my 50e with full attk 5. so i can switch gears for pvp and pve. i would like to get orki, but asmo side seems to hate sin in bt XD

ivory lance
blissful harbor
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everyone hate sin there

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melee in general outside plate

alpine plaza
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he said 640/655 if im right, but i only can remember the 640 in mh for sure

ivory lance
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Odd!

alpine plaza
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yeah i know^^ thats why im here and asking many sins^^

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and that just started with the 600-800 dmg more each autoattack they do^^

blissful harbor
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i mean, self food buffed 642 with +12 padma

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6 slot SW with +12 padma D + taha sword is 642

grizzled current
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i could have had 2x mast weapons on pve twink but then i would also need a few eternal accs

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so i decided not to buy sword and stay on mast + taha

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other then that on main with +15 gbg dagger, +12 gbg sword, 6slot sw i have this

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if theres hit mantra i can use att food

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(not sure if that calc had pvp wings tho)

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it didnt so add another 2 att

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3.x is where its gonna get disgusting

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we lose some magic dmg to msub

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but make up for it in phys

ivory lance
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Yea +15 gonna be big in 3.0

grizzled current
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yep

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already saving all the glory tokens

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early on i prob use gbg dagger offhand after getting the pve dagger

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so i dont just lose enchant bonus

dapper hornet
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Wtf is "orki"

random nova
dapper hornet
blissful harbor
grizzled current
blissful harbor
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what u use those for later on?

grizzled current
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12 token = 100x 10%aids

blissful harbor
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ah arena stuff?

grizzled current
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ye

grizzled current
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current pvp stats are also nasty

gusty plank
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851 crit op

ivory lance
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Yea very nice, jealous of the +15 dagger :p

grizzled current
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🙂

gusty plank
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top bot cav for crit better or pref acc ?

grizzled current
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cav ill do acc

spark forum
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Since everyone is already hyped for 2.8......what about Sins?

Are we getting nerved, buffed, everything stays the same for us?

grizzled current
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great things ahead

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every patch

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2min cd throw dagger on ground
massacre
blind gets macc reduce added
spelldodging/shadow rage for both races
silence/blind for runes both races

blissful harbor
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scroll 1 sec cd, no 30 sec downtime on shadowwalk, 3 sec is all we need

gusty plank
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shadow walk whaaat ?

spark forum
blissful harbor
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15 sec cd

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u need 30 sec to go hide again else u gona be crap

spark forum
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Well, i get your point...its a QOL change, but not a direct buff in any shape or form for Sins imho

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So its more comfortable for us, but still nothing really is changing in this regard for a Sin

blissful harbor
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ofc u can even change spell crit for rune pops if u really want x)

grizzled current
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theres gonna be alot of sorcs/sm that wont know that blind reduces their macc

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so that and throw dagger are 2 rly good buffs

blissful harbor
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with lightning strike too it ads up

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even if im currently not running it

spark forum
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We ll see......Sorcs/SM/even Clerics have enough MACC to hit you anyway

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So i dont think it will make that much diff

blissful harbor
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they wont if u have the blind, ls and u got sensory up

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then they have alot of reduced dmg, even it its just a window during 8-12 sec

spark forum
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So i need 3 stigmas to get the chance of not getting hit for 8 secs

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and they can even pot it

random nova
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What kind of MR numbers can fully geared sins reach on offensive set? So not with MR set ofc but with atk/crit with MR glasses?

spark forum
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Kinda imba i would say 😛

solemn atlas
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Can someone tell me the shugo schedule of the event that comes out in SC?

grizzled current
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thats even better

grizzled current
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so 2170 with sensory

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and 2107 evade so 3207 with evade boost and sensory

blissful harbor
random nova
grizzled current
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yes

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also its alot vs ranger, sin, glad, temp, cleric, chanter

random nova
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althought i would assume it wont be enough in 2.8 anymore? Maybe against glad/temp still

grizzled current
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the tankyness of egbg is very noticeable

grizzled current
random nova
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did you go from 50e to egbg or from 55e to egbg?

grizzled current
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30e to 55e to egbg

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atm i have 55e on acc

random nova
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and you felt a big difference between 55e and egbg?

grizzled current
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yes

random nova
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damn

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nice

grizzled current
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i have more att, more acc, more pvp def, more mr more hp

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same evade

random nova
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yeah it all adds up

grizzled current
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the only negative aspect is the cost

random nova
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of sanctification or for the set?

grizzled current
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well its an eternal set vs a gold set xd

random nova
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yeah enchanting/socketing....

grizzled current
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and some silence resist is the diff

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the mr is the main point

blissful harbor
grizzled current
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i have both full mb and full ma set

blissful harbor
random nova
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What kind of weapons/gear would be needed for guaranteed rank 1 on sieges? Do you legit need mastarius dagger etc or would double abg weapons be enough?

grizzled current
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just get pvp weapons

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with both and full pvp accs you can go full att

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in pve

random nova
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Im working on full 6 slot sw, got 3 pieces, but going for mastarius/padma is too overkill for me cause i really dont care about pve that much

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So SW 6 slot and gbg accs + weapons should be enough to get rank 1 at sieges, if you got brain? xD

grizzled current
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its easy

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i dont even place siege weapons anymore

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full att gbg weapons and accs, sw 6 slot

random nova
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rank 1 even without siege weapons? damn thats nice

grizzled current
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i just buy chanter

turbid leaf
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Hiho everyone, I’m an bit unsure how to proceed with my pvp gear.

I got 2 pieces 55 accs, 1 piece abg acc as well as 40e armor and neck.

I got enough ap & medals for 2 pieces abg accs or should I gather some more and do the abg dagger? ( got taha d and s rn).

dapper hornet
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Get the dagger

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If you're still on level 50 weapons, you will definitely want the dagger.

turbid leaf
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Ok, thanks for the reply.

open wren
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I don't know the rank 1 but I was getting 2 plat medals when I was right clicking with a bow (a lv 50 green rarity one)

lime badger
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Do 80% of leathers from Atreia Elyo play with cheats? Ranger unlucky player, Sin Fuit and many other, any time when im in hide and get into their range, they insta pop up all seeing eye...

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is it even worth to report those trashes?

safe charm
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If u hide near them they will always see u using skill ok combat logs ofc

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If way too far in hide and u come to them they shouldnt use

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But always lag radar or spider sense sadly

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Also currently in some areas ppl random pop eye

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Gelk cave example

lime badger
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ive been in hide for 3 mins and didnt use any buff / skill meanwile

safe charm
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Populated spots/areas are eye candy tbh

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Even if no hide log it still depends of u went in to some usual pvp area or they got lags

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Write names tbh and if it keeps happing everywhere its sus

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Moura ely glad for example has radar 100%

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Ive seen at least 3 clips of his shit

gusty plank
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70% of asmo as well ... or more

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record it and post it maybe this way smtg happens

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i post as well suspicious players but cant be sure sometimes

safe charm
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ye there are some

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an sm if i remember

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idk how most ppl random use eye , but for me most times its in and out forts , most known camp location , crossroads , ingi bottom bridge , camps ofc , telos , tempus . cave

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most time all bridges and etc

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idk but there are spots i expect hidden players tbh

alpine plaza
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when im in gelk or ingi, i keep the eye on cd. its common knowledge, that many ranger and sins are camping around the fortress. That random eyo pop doenst matter to me u have still time to react. whats more shit is all those sins and ranger with no ani and ahk^^

patent kelp
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what other skills sin gets in 3.0? i know shadowfall and killing spree but do we get massacre?

rancid ledge
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2.8

patent kelp
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yea yea

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huge

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also in 3.0 elite primus pilus set is available for medals only or the non set parts only?

grizzled current
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elite will turn into a non sen version

solemn atlas
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@gusty plank skilled

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Naiisu

gusty plank
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wanted to put unskill name but was taken on the other hand not as skilled as yr screenshot 😄

gusty plank
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shift+win key + s for screenshot @solemn atlas

solemn atlas
gusty plank
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@solemn atlas just try it nab its fast and lets you screenshot exactly what u want

solemn atlas
gusty plank
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SqL btw 101% legit Not radar hack at all

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nab eric is yr cousin ?

blissful harbor
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i only have gladi/chanter cousins

gusty plank
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oh ye my bad

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😄

gusty plank
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Eric is this guy mikado on medication ? 💊

blissful harbor
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who is that

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rival gang?

gusty plank
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1st one gets it

rancid ledge
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lol

gusty plank
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wts new sin skill Glide Boost

blissful harbor
# gusty plank

i actually applied for that legion and got ghosted when i started again since launch

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had no friends 🤡

gusty plank
#

oh

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tell me if u wana join

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cya 2moro gn

rocky cloak
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just curious, how much attackspeed is needed to do 3 autohits in under 1 sec?

gusty plank
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Idk prolly it’s each wep hit ?

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Or not

rocky cloak
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its myaion, its 3 full autohits

gusty plank
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It’s impossible or my aion bugs idk
Hmm 7k silence it’s pve for sure

rocky cloak
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ye its his pve logs, but he is rank 1 pvp aswell :D

gusty plank
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with under 10 ms is it possible maybe ? Idk maybe hax as many more do

rocky cloak
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i mean.. 0.8 attackspeed means you do 1 autohit every 0.8 seconds

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doing 3 in 1 second means your attackspeed is 0.5 or less

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if im not wrong

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also he does it too often to be myaion bug i guess

blissful harbor
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but sounds fishy x)

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still takes atleast ~2.4 sec for 3 auto animations

blissful harbor
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in pvp

vapid urchin
rocky cloak
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Nanahira or so, should be #1 ely ranking, at least he is running with the badge :D

gusty plank
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it cant be me . i do 4 auto atk in 1 sec

grizzled current
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nr1 ahk andy

gusty plank
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what tha means

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need a manslator

grizzled current
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if something is possible with ahk then nanahira uses it

blissful harbor
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0.75x3 is more then 1 sec tho😂

gusty plank
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whats ahk ?

grizzled current
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autohotkey

gusty plank
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its progrmam ok

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btw did you guys know

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if u are in shadow walk or hide 2 and use some buffs and after if u relog count resets and u can use again 3 more example for shadow walk w/o break stealth

blissful harbor
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haha

gusty plank
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dont believe ?

blissful harbor
gusty plank
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Yea but somehow can come up handy

blissful harbor
lime badger
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Actually ichirow does same with multiple auto attacks... But he claims he is 100% legit and doing weaving only 😂

random nova
lime badger
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3 auto attacks in a second it's enough proof.

blissful harbor
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but ye, 3 autos a sec is impossible

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wonder what makes u manage do do that, to reset autos timer

gusty plank
#

BTW badtman commander radar hax have video too sending to GF

spark forum
#

Guys......who is the No 1 Sin on Atreia?

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
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there prob a few claiming nr1 xD

random nova
vivid wagon
# spark forum Guys......who is the No 1 Sin on Atreia?

Pvp ( maybe forgot someone and I don’t put my name to the list)
Elyos they are worth to named: Checka, Derenaya, Kkthxbye,Nanahira, Hydell,
Asmo worth to be named: swizzikburst,
Don’t know any other on Asmo side ( don’t know Arena Asmo ranking)

vivid wagon
gusty plank
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Idk man about no1. I know I am no2 🤣

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Fun aside this question is stupid

safe charm
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Idk competition makes the game more interesting xD

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Asmo side not many good sins

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Swizzi , and mommy prob in top 5

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Idk about rest

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I think Apceros is good aswell but no idea tbh

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Ely side has more good sins overall

spark forum
#

Dont worry guys
It is Not who is the best, but who knows enough about mechanics, tactics, combinations and hotkey/macro assignment

patent kelp
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does something change in 2.8 pass with pvp accesories or do they stay e40?

blissful harbor
#

would make sense to get 50 accesorys tbh, but idk

stable shuttle
#

Hey I would have 2 questions about physical gear

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I've been told that "white attack" is better than "green attack" can someone confirm please ? And I also heard about a crit cap, that we supposedly can't pass 50% crit and that every crit above 650 is wasted. Can someone help please ?

brittle wolf
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you get white attack from for example enchanting your weapon, it's more valuable because it scales with your skills and buffs

green attack is what you get from socketing attack stones and scales with your autoattacks

the crit cap depends on the content you're playing and the enemy you're facing, 50% is indeed the cap you can reach which is 500 crit if there's no crit strike resist
in general end game pve content most bosses have 150 crit strike resist so you'll have to reach 500 + 150 = 650 crit strike to achieve 50% crit rate
in general end game raid content bosses do not have crit strike resist so you only need 500 crit for duxes
in general end game pvp content well geared people will (starting with 2.8) reach around 400 crit strike resist so you'll need 900 crit strike to reach the 50% cap

all these crit strike values you should reach are buffed, meaning with scroll, food and maybe chanter mantra
for pve i'd highly recommend to always reach the cap even without clear focus (as it only has 50% uptime)
for pvp it's up to you and kind of depends on what content you're mainly playing, for example in dreds and open world pvp you can get away with relying on clear focus but in arenas you can't

rancid ledge
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I see lot sin full atk 5 and litle witth one part with crit

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I think full atk is best choice

brittle wolf
#

if you play around clear focus you'll have 40% crit chance for half the time which with our very high dagger crit modifier of 2.4 will make you lose a lot of damage compared to the additional 6x5 = 30 attack you gain

grizzled current
#

in pvp

blissful harbor
#

yea u get 42% value due to 58% pvp reduction

rancid ledge
#

Thx guys

stable shuttle
alpine plaza
grizzled current
#

cav chest pants have crit

alpine plaza
#

yeah i saw that

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but we talking about 36 krit

grizzled current
#

thats 2 more att stones

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like ideall rn you get both sets full

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but thats alot of ap and medals

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so a good combo is 2x cav 3x egbg

brittle wolf
#

since Cav and eABG cost the same you might as well take 2x Cav 3x eABG since you'll have the better stats

random nova
grizzled current
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atm egbg att crit, cav crit acc, and once you have 60 set you socket egbg to mr

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which will still be good as sin with sensory

random nova
#

And then i guess another cloth cava for macc? and 50e cloth for MB is still the best even in 2.8? No research done just winging it lol

grizzled current
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my plan is cav cloth full mb

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you can stil reach 1.4k macc with it on full mb

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and 50e full macc

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for like 1800 ish macc but only 500 mb

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for like airbind or vs clerics

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and then lvl 60 your macc its nuts either way

random nova
#

So you will resocket your 50e to macc once you get cav cloth?

grizzled current
#

i will just get a 2nd 50e from pass

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socket that full macc

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and have both

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ill do at least 3p cav leather for acc set 1st

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with full cav cloth, pve sword and gbg dagger in that case

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with 60 pvp dagger main pve sword offhand its 6 macc less

random nova
#

Is there really a big need for acc set as sin? Is it common for people to go full block set against sins? Surely most people know MR set is more effective against sin? Or am i wrong?

random nova
grizzled current
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rn i have full 50e mboost

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and next patch pass should bring full 50e set which ill socket macc

grizzled current
random nova
grizzled current
#

if you go now chest pants cav, small egbg as crit att
then small cav acc

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compared to full set both

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its 3 acc stones diff

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couse on the main pants you dont want to socket acc over att

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i think what im gonna do is get 3 small pieces leather cav for acc, then get full cav coth, then get chest pants leahter cav for the 3 extra acc stones

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the tankyess diff from 55e to eternal is rly noticeable and atm i need to use full 55e for acc

blissful harbor
#

3+2 best compromise 🙌

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@grizzled current L58 mc dagger better then 60 dagger?😳 60 is legion commander dagger right?

grizzled current
blissful harbor
grizzled current
#

beginner pass 2 = 50e set
growth pass 3 = some 50 acc pieces

patent kelp
#

Lets see if we get this one

solemn atlas
brittle wolf
#

you get the full set

solemn atlas
#

For 400quna?

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Yikes

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Sounds good

brittle wolf
#

the price might be different here but yeah it's a very good deal for an additional set / new or returning players

blissful harbor
#

finally some freebie ma set

brittle wolf
#

"free" until you have to buy the maac stones

grizzled current
#

i should have enough saved up

solemn atlas
#

for sure, running alrdy with 40e...🤣🤣

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
#

u eating snacks without us?

blissful harbor
#

broke my back so been out of sitting

lime badger
#

I have a strange problem with playing sin. Sometimes my character moves, uses skills and auto attacks very smoothly, other times it can be very clumsy and seems to slow down. My ping is stable 30-33, fps constant 120. Several sins from my legion also noticed this. I looked for a solution on Google, but I couldn't find anything. Maybe someone here had a similar problem? Any ideas on how to solve it, maybe changes to cfg?

brittle wolf
#

haven't noticed anything unusual

gusty plank
#

You most likely desync

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Like me

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It’s mostly at PvP right?

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Specially vs some ppl. Example vs naked I full lag vs him

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Must be the difference in ping or smtg not sure

brittle wolf
#

what you're describing sounds like ping fluctuations or paket loss

lime badger
#

Actually my connection is perfect, I've checked it withand w/o exitlag and it same. It's mostly annoying in pvp (I think it may be caused by ping differences), but even in pve my char sometimes just stand in place and doesn't want to start next auto attack after using skill, even when I press AA keybind.

safe charm
#

Tiark or dred feels bit off cause Instance server but ow mostly ok

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Maybe u are talking about that

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Otherwise desync

patent kelp
#

Do i need two extendable weapons as sin for extend effect or one is enough?

brittle wolf
#

you need two extends to get the extendeable effect

rancid ledge
#

Two

blissful harbor
#

sucks no one been putting out alukina dagger/sword on quna market :/

safe charm
#

At least no need extend with newest slayer

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🙂

blissful harbor
#

yea

grizzled current
#

ye took them long enough

gusty plank
#

Many ppl already have new slayer

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Even b4 slayer actually.

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😂

safe charm
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xD

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i mean 3.2+ or w/e the newest slayer that exists

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oh damn i had to read it twice to understand your point

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ye

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they also have the new eye passive aswell

gusty plank
#

🤣

spark forum
#

Newest slayer?
What did. I miss?

rancid ledge
#

New stigma système too

spark forum
#

Nice

spark forum
#

Has the community decided yet which set to go in 2.8?

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Stick to gbg or go for cav?

brittle wolf
#

the best offensive stats you can reach are with 2x Cav (chest and pants) and 3x eGBG (the rest)

grizzled current
#

the question is do you want a full tryhard version or hybrid and chill

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im getting cav cloth 1st

blissful harbor
grizzled current
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full cav

brittle wolf
#

none

spark forum
#

So its the "best" way to go PvP wise?

grizzled current
#

going full sets both gbg and cav gives you 3 more acc stones on acc set cav

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but if cav is just you main att set it doesnt matter

spark forum
#

Right now i have full gbg acc + weapons but only 40e set

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I can go either route....just dont want to buy both sets because i made a mistake

grizzled current
#

then go hybrid and make it your main att set

spark forum
#

And about cloth set...guess i have to play with season pass AP set for awhile

grizzled current
#

next patch pass should havbe 50e

spark forum
#

aye

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And here i thought i dont need anymore platin medals anymore 😄

grizzled current
#

full egbg vs full cav

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idk the stats of hybrid couse i dont go there

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for me cav is just the acc set

spark forum
#

Do you think the 100 acc and 7 macc will be so notable in PvP?

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70 macc

grizzled current
#

just use the calc

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loot at full gbg vs full cav vs hybrid

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gbg needs less medals

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so its simply easier to get

spark forum
#

Aye and gbg has more att....our mainstat

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So i guess its kinda no brainer to go for gbg

grizzled current
#

just do hybrid

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should be best

#

here

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hybrid set

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then later on 3x small cav pieces for acc

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just 1 small note if you go hybrid make sure to put 2x crit stones into gbg shoulders

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also this is just how much crit i want

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some want less and be more dependent on clear focus

spark forum
#

mmhh...i see.

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thanks for your help!

gusty plank
#

I will get 3 complete sets cavalier cloth. 1 Mr. 1 mb. 1. Ma. And then 3 more sets leather. 1 at. 1 Eva. 1 hp and then 2 more cavalier plate complete sets. Just to see the skin

brittle wolf
#

you do know that farming one full set takes about 2-3 months right

gusty plank
#

Man lol was that so hard to figure out that I troll 👿

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Oh and after I get all the sets. Gonna afk at mail box

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🤣

blissful harbor
spark forum
#

I always play naked....its confusing for my opponent and makes their eyes bleed

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Perma Blind and i have a 50% dodge chance!

gusty plank
#

That’s nice unless If u have pets 😭

blissful harbor
spark forum
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😄

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By the way, i live in my mums basement.....like 99% the rest of us tryhards 😛

#

Now something serious: how in the world are you killing a kiting full Mress Cleric? 0.o
We just fought in dred against a team......we could kill all DPS, but the cleric...man....

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He was near unCCable and just jump around like nothing

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and with chanter shields and everything else, the enemy group could respawn and regroup all the time and we still had to kill the cleric

grizzled current
#

thats why i going full cav cloth 1st 🙂

spark forum
#

We won i the end....but its sooooooo damn hard to kill a full MRess cleric, its insane

spark forum
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Ah i need both sets anyway.....1 cloth cav, 1 leather cav/bgb

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Hope 3.0 takes some month XD

gusty plank
#

asmo sin IIIoIII with the random eye pop (got vid) care

grizzled current
gusty plank
#

you agree he uses ?

grizzled current
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idk

safe charm
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Prob not his legion has almost zero clue about the game xd

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But first time i see name

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Not the usual sm 😂

gusty plank
#

cant send above 25mb vid poor pleb here no nitro

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how to i record lower compress ahh fk it gona record my recording xD

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point is even with vid u cant prove anything there is always smthg

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
safe charm
#

can anyone share build with step?

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goodbye dns for now ;/

grizzled current
#

last slot depends what you are doing i guess

safe charm
#

hmm so almost same build i guess

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yelp not much to play around xD

spark forum
#

Anyone knows how many medals you can get a week with 2.8?

blissful harbor
#

think ebony is like 50 a week or something

grizzled current
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32 weekly from belu quests
2 solo crucible, 1 grp crucible
30-40 siege

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tiark dred same quests but 2 medals each

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eso new fragments

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legion bundle chance for new fragments

spark forum
grizzled current
#

ye +-

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depends a little on kkm siege ofc

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and preferable doing siege weapon ingi, boss gelk or the other way around

spark forum
#

So what will be the bottleneck: AP or Medals in the end?

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Guess Medals but we ll see

blissful harbor
neat mulch
#

Anyone know where to find lv58 skillbook annihilation ?

brittle wolf
#

is that massacre? if yes you have to drop it / buy it from someone that dropped it on the new world boss

neat mulch
#

The saturday night World boss in alukina place ?

rocky cloak
#

yes

neat mulch
#

It will be hard to find :/

rocky cloak
#

yes

patent kelp
#

Does the skillbook drop random or its fixed as a Class drop?

blissful harbor
patent kelp
#

So like every one in league can roll?

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And its weekly?

rocky cloak
#

its similiar to agent fight lootwise

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its the same system afaik

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so you get a bundle rank 1-5 and if your lucky you get smth, if not you can buy it from others.

neat mulch
#

This skillbook are tradable ?

blissful harbor
#

i think so

blissful harbor
#

normal skill trainer u when for 50 and below

gusty plank
#

Full gbg or 3 gbg 2 cav ? opinions

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gbg = little more hp more eva more mr more spell resist + para sile gs resist
2cav 3gbg = little more def - more atk cz u get crit alot and u slot 1 more mana - more strike resis more accu more macc

blissful harbor
#

gbg is best for resist/hp

spark forum
#

Playing advocatus diaboli here: Atk > Acc - Change my mind 😛

grizzled current
#

gbg as att set with mr glasses has been so good

spark forum
#

My point is: i see no real reason to go hybrid and/or cav just because it is "new"
I see no real drawback with going full gbg and no real hard convincing fact going cav

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But maybe i miss something important.....dunno

grizzled current
#

i have full gbg as main att set

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i will go cav cloth now

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couse thats just a must

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then ill go cav leather for acc

spark forum
#

Sounds like a plan

blissful harbor
#

aint that big diff, mostly ma but most ma/mb swaps?

gusty plank
#

aight thx all

spark forum
#

The only stat increase that could be an argument is Macc.....

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on the other hand its just 8 att diff

blissful harbor
#

8 is almost 2 manastones

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meanwhile +27 acc is just 1 😂

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+36 crit also

spark forum
#

Macc is interesting though

blissful harbor
#

if u not gear swappig shure

spark forum
#

Well. at my current gear i dont have the luxury of swapping anything.....yet

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I have both gbg weapons and acc, but still 40e

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So no gearswap for me yet

blissful harbor
spark forum
#

Its even worse 😛

blissful harbor
spark forum
#

Aye

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I go for full gbg first, and later cav cloth like Checka

blissful harbor
#

i wont go cav cloth anytime soon x)

grizzled current
#

then see if you can get good amounts of black gold too and go cav chest and pants

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if its to slow then you can still go egbg chest pants

spark forum
#

Aye

spark forum
#

So i know i m not Top Tier, so my medals earned so far are mediocre....but well.....50 in a week is ok i would say

hasty lava
#

Is it just me or is debilirating seal of detruction same as Blood rune?

They are sharing CD, doing the same amount of dmg/heal.
Am I missing something?

spark forum
#

Blood Rune deals more Damage

blissful harbor
grizzled current
#

which is weird

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couse dmg values are listed as same

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heal value is listed higher in the new one

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but thats 3.0 data

blissful harbor
#

i became depressed, until i saw almost a 3k heal on tog

spark forum
#

I tested the Seals in Inggisson and Blood Rune deals definitly more damage than Seal of Destruction

spark forum
#

Btw how much AP do you make in a week?

grizzled current
#

just natrual ap around 50-100k per day

spark forum
#

50-100k per day is pretty good i would say

#

I get around 30-40k a day, and with Telos and Eso i get around 500k a week

blissful harbor
#

seen a bit kr playing around with new meta stigma changes, and many ar actually running signet with

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what your guys opinion with it ?😁

#

and running darkness rune with signet

brittle wolf
#

does it do so much damage or why 🤔

grizzled current
#

seems troll without oath

brittle wolf
#

i mean signet is insane if you can fit it in

blissful harbor
#

yea he hit hard x)

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watching this while i finnishing up my ribs on the grilll

brittle wolf
#

but tbh with the stigma changes i'd probably go for the other tree

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much better stigmas

blissful harbor
#

yea he go full signet with above normal ones

grizzled current
#

explo burst is nice addition if it hits

blissful harbor
#

but not slotting oath, thats 2 min cd is weird

blissful harbor
grizzled current
#

also they did alot of training arenas

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i saw it on stream

blissful harbor
#

he is slippery as fk with sin step and flash of speed change

grizzled current
#

i doubt the ranger has or used mr

blissful harbor
brittle wolf
#

he was just testing builds you mean?

grizzled current
#

ye

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i mean

#

can you play vs mr without oath

brittle wolf
#

nah

#

oath is a must have imo

grizzled current
#

exacltly just slayer is 1 macc buff

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oath is another

blissful harbor
#

thats true

grizzled current
#

you need them to have it for multiple fights

blissful harbor
#

but ow, this might be good

grizzled current
#

explo burst can be good

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
grizzled current
#

they only have training

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xDDD

blissful harbor
#

hahahahhahahha

#

dam i forgot that too

blissful harbor
#

only place i do for now🙈

blissful harbor
grizzled current
brittle wolf
#

i mean the damage is kinda what ever

#

but the 30s silence is godlike

blissful harbor
#

its 30 sec?😂

#

never noticed that wth

brittle wolf
#

at least from how i remember it yeah

blissful harbor
#

i mean only option is to lose blinding burst for oath, but thats just not good, when it 80%vs 50 darkness

brittle wolf
#

nah there's no way you can give up blind

blissful harbor
#

xD

blissful harbor
#

but same, shadowfall is huge

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but imo sins is in a weird spot, does not have that same burst compared to patches before😮‍💨

neat mulch
#

How do you think about ranger matchup ? I Lost all Time my Arena vs geared ranger

spark forum
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But if you are even geared, well, we have tools to deal with him.....and of course he got tools to deal with you 😄

neat mulch
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I win the first fight in général, but without cd its hard

blissful harbor
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gets better if u have glide skill

neat mulch
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Yes i think, in ow the matchup is ok now, but too hard for me in arena

blissful harbor
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arena ranger just sleep/dispell abuse xD

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if not just kite the living shit out xD

grizzled current
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in arena 1st inc is important

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to remove the initial mau

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and same for round 3 if they have jelly

neat mulch
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In général i win the first inc, but they facesmash on their keyboard and i take absurde damages, After respawn they juste spam and kill me

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Oh they abuse dodge Gear and destroy me because my acc Gear is just a 40e +10 set

grizzled current
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i have 55e on acc so pretty much same as their evade

blissful harbor
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dam.. newer 60 pvp armor with focus on magic sup and defensives

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mb swapping more doomed

grizzled current
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its 250 msub

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it doesnt matter

neat mulch
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its very low

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60 accs dont have magical offset

blissful harbor
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we dont know values, but hopefully not alot

grizzled current
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ye and our phys dmg goes up by 20% from 3.2

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so what

blissful harbor
grizzled current
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dude

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im not gonna say it

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for 4th time

blissful harbor
grizzled current
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its 32 base att and 100 bonus att

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and 150 mboost

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vs 250 msub

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even if its 400 msub

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it wont be an issue

blissful harbor
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its this pve one right?😂

grizzled current
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and 10 more base att when 15

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couse enchant change

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+40 instead of +30

blissful harbor
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yea but enchant not based on weap dmg, rather same on all weaps?

grizzled current
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what

blissful harbor
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it ads flat value based on enchantment

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so that +40 we get on gbg too later?

grizzled current
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yes but should still compare now to later

blissful harbor
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ofc

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i just dont like the mb gutt, its mostly sins that get hit there

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meanwhile gladis get pc/spc/sure strike instant😩

grizzled current
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its a similar jump like taha to gbg was

blissful harbor
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it is ye

grizzled current
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its alot of phys dmg increase

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could even go for 900 crit

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the slighty lower bonus att wont hurt

blissful harbor
blissful harbor
grizzled current
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but cav also gives more mb compared to now

blissful harbor
grizzled current
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i posted

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mine now

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and cav + new weapons later

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rn i dont have main hand mboost

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3.2 i will

blissful harbor
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yea , 50e vs cav is 10 mb diff

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but the ma is juicy, i play to little to invest in cav for now😩

blissful harbor
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u gona compromise with gbg dagger oh due to enchant bonus most likely right?

grizzled current
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early ye

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getting 60 pve and getting it to 15 isnt easy

blissful harbor
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na i think gbg gona be alot better until u can slap that dagger more😂

blissful harbor
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cant wait to see what it is u need for that

spark forum
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Good morning Gentlemen
So after the first week with 2.8, i could get 58 Medals

Not top tier, i know, but i think its decent enough 🙂

blissful harbor
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i did 1 siege + daily/weekly i got 38 medals

spark forum
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You get 3 medals for the daily quests, so its 21 if you just do these in a week

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Well, anyway....if i can get 210 Medals in 4 weeks, i m ok with that

blissful harbor
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but i know i just did daily/weeklys + eso x1 xD

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and 1 siege

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even missed 1 daily

gusty plank
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How to reach 13 k gear score easy ? Socket Eva on full eternal gear ?

blissful harbor
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y

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gbg helmet gives 800 gear score i heard

gusty plank
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I have chain and gives less than campaign 😀

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Cuz less eva

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To reach 13 k need all parts with 6 slots or like 4 -5 slotted will do

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With Eva

blissful harbor
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u can also go fly map and go flying so its activates that also xD

gusty plank
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Anything more specific? ☺️

blissful harbor
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no idea, besides opening wings, gbg helmet and evasion xD and obviously enchantment stones xD

gusty plank
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👌 thx

brittle wolf
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i was using the blue craft helmet (the one with all ele resistances) and that gave like 500 score over my lvl 50 campaign one

gusty plank
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<Reaper’s Victory II> any vid ?

grizzled current
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you mean the ripclaw skin

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its in sophvys patch vid

gusty plank
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oh ty'

ember loom
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What would be better for new sin:
e50 cloth and e40 leather bcs later will buy new leather set or just go for e50 leather e40 cloth since its only for the mb?

grizzled current
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50e cloth is very good

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i have it full mb and full macc atm

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and even long term its usefull as full macc set

ember loom
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So best choice would be go e40 leather and go e50 cloth from pass bcs gonna replace armour anyway for leather right? And better to put full ma or mb?

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and e40 easyer to enchant

grizzled current
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ye

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i mostly use full mboost its good enough with slayer or oath vs most targets

ember loom
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alright thanks for the advice

safe charm
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any mb build?

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mostly wanna play the ma route but with some mb aswell

safe charm
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had e40 cloth on wh but ill use e50 cloth instead with e55 wep

blissful harbor
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needle hits a bit hard in pve 😂

safe charm
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so pvp attack is there from weps

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abg belt+helt seems reasonable

blissful harbor
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1 50e pass

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and other when 3,0 hits with just medals😂

safe charm
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full abg acc magic seems very big waste right?

ivory lance
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Yes, no mboost. Better with gold 50/55 acs and abg belt

safe charm
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ye but im thinking if i can use the lut acc tbh

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like ear x2 and ring x2

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since pvp attack will be there from abg belt+neck and 2 pvp wep

ivory lance
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Guess you can yea. A bit lower pvp damage but that’s it

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Since you’ll have x2 weps that should suffice anyways 🙂

blissful harbor
grizzled current
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they are also very cheap rn

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kinda free

blissful harbor
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might check 60, havent looked at those stats

vivid wagon
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hi, someone has the old sin guide from 2.x ( or 3.x/4.x it looks like a word data) i saw it on a discord for some days, maybe someone have it or will find it and post it for me pls. ty 🙂

ok found it already ty.

lime badger
vivid wagon
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sure but its very old

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some guy asked me about sin matchups and its more or less for starters to understand the basics ( i like it more if u give a student books or documentarys and they can learn by them self thats why)

lime badger
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I have 2 completely newbie sins in legion it should be good for them 😅

vivid wagon
lime badger
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Ahh this one 😁

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Ty 🙂

safe charm
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u think worth buy abg chain helm or wait next patch?

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3.0 i mean

grizzled current
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are you planning on getting eabg?

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couse i went for egbg so i also bought corund glasses instead of gbg chain hat

safe charm
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ye idk it seems big ap for me

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only missing 2 earring + helm for ma/mb set

grizzled current
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50 earrings are cheap

safe charm
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yy

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going for that

grizzled current
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hat you can use tac in meantime

safe charm
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need refarm

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already doing dat

grizzled current
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i would have bought the chain hat if i didnt go for egbg

safe charm
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egbg gear u mean ?

grizzled current
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ye

safe charm
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ah

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i need 2 cav parts to finish main set so i dont wanna drag my base ap to the bottom

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so max mb for sin is like what 1.3k?

grizzled current
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should be more like 1500

safe charm
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ic ic

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if more then that its effective or little to no diff u think?

grizzled current
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ye more is always good

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gbg chain hat over tac you also lose less hp on swap

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thats also biggest downside of a 40e mboost compared to 50e

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abg magic belt is also something nice to get with excess plats

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but i think the chain hat is worth it too compared to tac

safe charm
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yy but gotta refarm lots of ap and got to buy cav chest and pants in the way

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maybe i can do after idk

grizzled current
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ye its not must have

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tac is not bad its just a swap anyway

safe charm
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should i make the e50 +5 just for bit more hp diff swap

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u think worth

grizzled current
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i have it +10 from excess stones

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i only lose around 300hp swapping to mb and macc

safe charm
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ic

grizzled current
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you also have 55 dagger right

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that also helps in that regard couse it does have 180 hp

safe charm
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i got both e55 wep

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bough first think in 2.4 before abg cause i had 0 pvp weps xD

grizzled current
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i skipped those bla 2.4 was barely playable with taha

safe charm
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xD

grizzled current
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was pain till gbg dagger haha

safe charm
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i had anu d/d then got tac d+taha s