#Sin master race general
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but cav isnt in the game and i have allready 5 mio ap stored
Small GBG would mean shoes, pauldrons and gloves.
Cav is new AP armour coming in 2.8
You could always make MB set Sussor or buy abg bow or something
but why just 3 items?
I guess this comes down to personal preference a bit but the three small eabg pieces give attack, cava gives accuracy/ma instead.
The two big cava give crit vs eabg attack. At manastone value the crit from cava is a bit higher.
Once you complete the 3 small eabg + 2 big cava for your new attack/crit set over 50e. You can socket the remaining 3 small cava accu later to replace your old accu set.
You’ll be medal gated start of 2.8 either way
but cava set will not come this year isnt it?
what should i do with all that ap and medals? go full abg?
Cava set coming in 2.8 which is likely end of June this year
You can also get the eternal wings if you haven’t yet
If I had a lot of ap/medals to spare I would also get abg bow
so if thats true, i could save all my ap and wait for cava set and take it complet?
you'll need new medals for the cav set so although you can save up the required AP you'll still have to play for a while before you can get it
i got so many ap around^^ maybe is just take wings and wait for cava set... since ff14 addon is soon
or should i go complet abg if i had ap and medals?
2x Cav and 3x ABG will give you better stats than 5x ABG or even 5x Cav which is why i wouldn't complete your ABG set if you still have other stuff you can get
yeah but cav is not here
and i got now enough for all XD
so i go nbow 3 abg and 2 50e?
i haven't checked but i doubt it's worth to break up the set effect of the 50e
so i take now 55 abg and dont use it?^^
pretty much yes, just preparation for the next patch
also the three small ABG parts, for Cav it's the chest and pants
oki
Set 1 or set 2?
1
is the chain hat abg better then leather?
smal gbg pieces gloves, shoulders, boots
only better is full cav is u get a bit more accuracy, and that might not even be worth it
you don't need the 60 acc from the full Cav set
What is Cav?
cavalliers set, the new pvp set we'll get in 2.8
i'd throw out deadly abandon, outside of pve it's not very good
imo lightning slash is a must have to cover, leathal venom is not very good because the damage scales with mboost
i personally like sigil strike a lot but at the end it's just a qol stigma and can be exchanged for a different stigma if you want
sin step if u can afford it
even if lightning slash only way of reliable covering silence/blind or both
its still clunky and take too long imo
and u have to most likely slideshot it 80% of the times xD
3.0 it get qol not having to stand still
Yeah makes sense. Probably keep it like this till i get Sin step but very pricey atm.
it is xD
Sin will be alot stronger in 3.0
left cav, right 3+2 cav
its w/e xD
im gona try go for full cav, i dont like 60 pvp armor anyway
We get aoe throw dagger 3.0+ i think
aoe?
no way?
2.8 we get massacre? or was that also 3.0
aoe throw dagger dispell would be amazing 😄 cant say no to that
will write this out properly another time, skill changes this week (unclear if more are coming next week or if this is it)
**templar **
aether armor
30s +800 mr but also +200 mr to your group
prayer of resilience
restores all group members within 25m hp
threatening taunt
reduces the cooldown of doom lure, tiamat pull + illusion chains by 30%
assassin
throw dagger
stun + shield remove effect changed from 1 target to up to 3 targets within 2m of the target
oath of accuracy
for 30s increases your acc/macc by 500 and party member's by 200
flash of speed
also puts you in basic stelath for 2s
dmg increase on some skills
ranger
breath of nature
also increases your group members hp by 1,000
calming whisper
group buff
sleep trap
up to 4 targets
spiritmaster
vacuum choke
aoe on up to 3 targets within 3m of the target
withering
changed to 30s duration, hp/mp decrease buffed from 2000 to 2200, healing boost reduction reduced from 1000 to 700 and can hit up to 3 targets within 3m of the target
stone skin (sm + sorc)
pvp def increased
raer posted this
Massacre is 2.8 i think
Renamed to anahilation
assassin
throw dagger
stun + shield remove effect changed from 1 target to up to 3 targets within 2m of the target
oath of accuracy
for 30s increases your acc/macc by 500 and party member's by 200
flash of speed
also puts you in basic stelath for 2s
dmg increase on some skills
this is TOTALLY HUGE
holy shit, i just got a boner
sounds good but dont think we gona use it later on with the 6s cd teleport
Overall 3.0+ seems very good for sins
So many nice things
I wonder will we ever get searching strike as well
3m is nothing xD
aoth 3.0 also Increases your Accuracy by 500 and Magic Accuracy by 500 for 30s.
3m Cooldown
that is a big loophole right there
sure thing

no need to shit up the master race general though, this is about the sin class, what are you doing here sorc
what do you think about the recent class changes?
i think that slayer form is really good and huge improvement for sins
the recent KR changes
these ones
kinda weird having a group buff now, sins are usually a rather selfish class.
flash of speed stealth is ultra huge
makes you elusive af
I wonder how much damage those "some skills" got.
aoe throw dagger sounds more op than it is.
2m is pretty much nothing.
that stuff only hits if people have been pulled or something
I don't like micro aoes in general, it's so clunky and useless in this game.
dude they don't work in this game at all
because of location data being imprecise
even just standing around is a pain, if you wanna sit in front of someone it will apear like you're sitting like 3m away from them for someone else

meanwhile, FFXIV manages to handle location data down to the exact pixel
ikr i tried to poke a guys eye out with point emote and it showed me pointing behind him instead in his eye
yea sucks
its important
i think they need to work on it
now he still got his eyes
but he shouldnt
what about LIVE ones
alright
wait i just read this class channel name
sin master race
does it mean sin is supermacy race
thats racist
ît was my idea
it just started out with people giving each other gear and progression advice, but devolved into general class talk rather quickly
so it's sin master race now
sins could wear polearms in Aion Beta while max lvl was 45
didint we highjack a beginners question ?😂
yea some basics about gear progression or something
yea idk im not an actual sin i just got a role to you know...
but dont tell anyone
if u just just unequip Wintry its fine
never 
@cosmic robin when u rerolling sin?
already did
taha sorc < atreia sin
Fellow Sins i got a question:
Flarestorm Dagger + APG Sword
or
APG Dagger + Tahabata Sword?
ABG dagger + Taha sword
you always want your mainhand to be as good as possible since most of the damage comes from it
well, i have the Flarestorm Dagger, but have only enough AP + Medals for 1 APG Weapon for now......
But i guess this is the right way to go
u can later reuse the gbg dagger for offhand if u wana get mb swap later patches, so aint bad for future either
you can also trade it in 3.0 for 70% of the mats required for the new pvp weapons
guess that also counts for the sword 
I'd go for the abg dagger too
I m going to get both PvP weapons anyway....just the question is what is best to get first when i have Flarestorm Dagger for MH
agb
100% gbg dagger
with taha oh
guys iv played sin know it was sometime i played it but i realize. that i often get owned cause they run away from me and i cant do a shit any tips how i can imrpove
that's not really something that can be answered with a general statement
in this case a video of your gameplay would help
sure
guys should i put crit stones until i have 850 crit cause i have put in all crit in my gear only 1 gear peice is attack tho
this is right ?
cause somone told me put attack
if you wanna be independent of cooldowns, you go for 850 crit
if you wanna do more damage but be a cooldown andy, you can go for 750, but you'll be at 40% crit without clear focus if your target is hyper stacked
think i will stick too 850 crit then
i have 382 attack on main and with scrolls and food i have 850 crit
thats what i hate about gbg dagger, no crit😩
when u play pvp do u have a key thatu spam so u can auto attack/run toward them?
i just use the standard "c" for autoattacks but for movement you should move yourself and not just press autoattack, otherwise you'll lose a lot of time catching up since the autopathing is really bad
i havent played with auto attack button am i losing dmg?
U need to autoattack between skills
The more u practice the better the dps , plus after u learn to weave better , like cancel animation of autoattack
Yes it’s very important for up your dps
i assume that you do weave but instead of pressing autoattack (standard "c") you just weave by timing? in on itself there's nothing wrong with that on targets that are standing still
when you're chasing a target you'll want to press your autoattacks manually (personally i always press them manually anyway since that to me is easier), otherwise your autoattacks might not go through and you'll lose half of your potential damage
as for chasing targets there are two different techniques to ensure that you can consistently weave and hit your target / not be affected by "out of range" too much:
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you jump and press your autoattack and skill mid air (example https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Sb5KiINqdM), this works very well but you risk losing your target due to them switching direction while you're in the middle of your jump, i would not use this technique against enemies with good movement
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you stand still for a short amount of time (to let the server update your position), you press your autoattack and your skill, and then start moving again (it's not the best example but i can't think of a better video on top of my head https://youtu.be/gFgm0fdiUsw?si=P5NxW-LcrDqcqueA&t=29 / can also be seen in the other video), i generally recommed this technique over the other one although you may not want to use it against enemies with high movement speed (chanters, buffed rangers etc.) as it will allow them to gain distance over time
ty so much this is game changer fr
guys i havent really played much in classic and defo not experienced in clients under 4.5 so as sin im rockinh with tac armoe farmin for malikas if possible idk if worth it i got tahabata weaoons but not enchanted. is there some weapons that would benefit me more than tahabatas? im kinda struggling to see potential upgrades
best early weapons would be tac dagger + taha sword Oh
next is either pvp or padma/veille
if u dont have any good pvp accesorys yet, u go eternal pvp accesorys > pvp dagger> sword
and i would use 40e at this point and just got 3 eternal pvp Smal pieces last, and fill out chest +legs in 2.8 cavalier pvp armor
For the small price of 200 euros mastarius dagger can be yours
you are a life saver thank you
bro thats half my rent 😂
Haha its a expensive game if you are a min maxer. But you can still compete without whaling so all good
thats min/max pve hero😂
i might be wrong, but the highest possible att stat is 628 right?
Ive got some sins on asmo side who say, they get 640 unbuffed. and that with brig weaps and orki gear. im that wrong or are they just telling shit?
depends, pve hero can be a bit higher if u have veille/masta dagger in mh
708 atk pve hero is possible without chanter 733 with
fully gbg its 568, if u having 850 baseline crit, not beeing cooldown hero
626 with chanter
that going insanely minmaxed xD
yupp xD
how you are able to hit 708? i tried every gear in gearl calculator and the highest i get was 628. well with +10 weaps
Probably sw 6 slot and mastarius dagger and sword
that sin which i asked, said to me he had brig weaps +10 and orki set
well i gues i will look again in gearcalc.
https://aiongear.fun/eng/eu27/assassin?build=9350576e-9f02-4417-8812-b913c94cc0ca
well i did make 4 gears and just 1 is on 645 and that i just managed to reach with mastarius weaps. if u would have mastarius +15 you will be on 661.
the chances of having 1 mastarius is kinda low and to ahve two of them it kinda is impossbile right now. to get them on +15 is even unthinkable.
So maybe some of those assas who hit 640 attk might shre there build and tell me where i got wrong^^
Don’t think its that impossible to have dual masta/veille. I mean if you can afford to buy 60-70k quna you would have them easily. But yes its kinda rare.
even if gut those 2 weaps. you are still far away from 700 attk stat 😅
the most sins. are building attk/krit. even with basic gear orki and abg on full attk is hitting at 640 attk. the might be possible with +15 weaps
Yeah and also in your calculator you took double mastarius 6 slot which i think is borderline impossible cause all of them have been 5 slot so far i think. I think 6 slot is extremely rare. But anyhow, its rly only for minmaxers, you would need to pay 1k+ euro for the extra 10-20 attack
due to strike resist and missing crit on gbg dagger
yeah i took them, just to try to get to that said 708 or the 640 someone ingame said to me. but i couldnt recreat both stats^^
I was just kinda curios, how other sins dmg is coming. when im looking at raid dps meter and look at the top 1-3 assas and i see they dealing 600-800 dmg each AA i start getting curios^^
u gona fall short around 5-7 atks stones
yeah so tell me how u get 708 attk^^ at least u gave that number out^^
u could aim only atk5s, but be avg 40% crit without buffs
sw 6 slot, veille weaps +15
12 atk food, 2 atk candy
atk wings
i talk about unbuffed
yea me too
i got here ur gear. full orki 6 slot + 2 mastarius weaps. if u get them to +15 you are hitting 666
so tell me where that other 40 attk come from
and if u tell me that. tell me how a sin with just orki and abg weaps +10 is hitting 640 thanks^^ all unbuffed
food and candy counts as buff
Who said this was possible?
Its not rocket science, either the calculator is wrong or someone lied to you. You pick which is more likely
eric says 708 is possible and the sin which i asked^^
im just try to find out, how same geared sins dealing 600-800 dmg more each autoattack then other sins, which have the same gear^^ and i get as answer: i got 640 attack unbuffed^^
Yes but eric said 708 is max, while someone said 640 is possible with sw set and abg wep. Erics claim is harder to check cause he didn’t specify what gear exactly
But the asmo sin said sw gear and abg weps
If you dont get 640 with that on calculator then either calculator is wrong or the asmo sin is lying
im making it again in gear calc
thats why i asked in first place, if the gear calculator ist correct^^
i must hav fat fingered some somewhere? 708 seems to be with chanter, having same i cant remake 708 xD
i know it have some bugs tho
yeah it has some bugs, thats why i just wanna make sure not to miss something
yeah that u hit with orki and mastarius weaps i gues
Seems you reach 638 mh with abg dagger +15 + sw 6 slot. With candy 640 which would make sense for that asmo sin 🙂
with +15 i would agree, but he posted me +10 dg and +12 sword^^ so yeah^^
learns me to not trust the guys ingame which telling lies to cover shit they might have going on^^
he might had buff?
avg atk will be alot lower pvp then pve
due to 850 vs 650 crit
and gbg dagger not having crit is alot of loss
i did it like that: i took 3 parts abg and have krit in them and resockeld my 50e with full attk 5. so i can switch gears for pvp and pve. i would like to get orki, but asmo side seems to hate sin in bt XD
Did he specify if it was OH or MH dmg? +12 sword is likely around 640
he said 640/655 if im right, but i only can remember the 640 in mh for sure
Odd!
yeah i know^^ thats why im here and asking many sins^^
and that just started with the 600-800 dmg more each autoattack they do^^
i mean, self food buffed 642 with +12 padma
6 slot SW with +12 padma D + taha sword is 642
i could have had 2x mast weapons on pve twink but then i would also need a few eternal accs
so i decided not to buy sword and stay on mast + taha
other then that on main with +15 gbg dagger, +12 gbg sword, 6slot sw i have this
if theres hit mantra i can use att food
(not sure if that calc had pvp wings tho)
it didnt so add another 2 att
3.x is where its gonna get disgusting
we lose some magic dmg to msub
but make up for it in phys
Yea +15 gonna be big in 3.0
yep
already saving all the glory tokens
early on i prob use gbg dagger offhand after getting the pve dagger
so i dont just lose enchant bonus
Wtf is "orki"
German shortcut for SW set xD

wth is this glory token,😳
what u use those for later on?
12 token = 100x 10%aids
ah arena stuff?
ye
current pvp stats are also nasty
851 crit op
Yea very nice, jealous of the +15 dagger :p
🙂
top bot cav for crit better or pref acc ?
cav ill do acc
Since everyone is already hyped for 2.8......what about Sins?
Are we getting nerved, buffed, everything stays the same for us?
great things ahead
every patch
2min cd throw dagger on ground
massacre
blind gets macc reduce added
spelldodging/shadow rage for both races
silence/blind for runes both races
scroll 1 sec cd, no 30 sec downtime on shadowwalk, 3 sec is all we need
Scroll cd isnt a buff for sins, its for everyone....so this doesnt count
30 Sec downtime on Shadowwalk? Huh? I dont get it.....it is a 5 Min buff with a 3 Min CD
So what is the big change here?
5 min dura on scrolls
15 sec cd
u need 30 sec to go hide again else u gona be crap
Well, i get your point...its a QOL change, but not a direct buff in any shape or form for Sins imho
So its more comfortable for us, but still nothing really is changing in this regard for a Sin
ofc u can even change spell crit for rune pops if u really want x)
theres gonna be alot of sorcs/sm that wont know that blind reduces their macc
so that and throw dagger are 2 rly good buffs
yummy
with lightning strike too it ads up
even if im currently not running it
We ll see......Sorcs/SM/even Clerics have enough MACC to hit you anyway
So i dont think it will make that much diff
they wont if u have the blind, ls and u got sensory up
then they have alot of reduced dmg, even it its just a window during 8-12 sec
So i need 3 stigmas to get the chance of not getting hit for 8 secs
and they can even pot it
What kind of MR numbers can fully geared sins reach on offensive set? So not with MR set ofc but with atk/crit with MR glasses?
Kinda imba i would say 😛
Can someone tell me the shugo schedule of the event that comes out in SC?
if they pot the blind its full silence duration
thats even better
1670 with full egbg set, gbg accs, corund glasses
so 2170 with sensory
and 2107 evade so 3207 with evade boost and sensory
even more practical, due to ma reduction skills now and later
Isn’t that enough for occasional random resists against SM/Sorcs on MB set without water spirit buff/magical assist?
althought i would assume it wont be enough in 2.8 anymore? Maybe against glad/temp still
the tankyness of egbg is very noticeable
once cloth are full cav ye fine but its still good vs other classes
did you go from 50e to egbg or from 55e to egbg?
and you felt a big difference between 55e and egbg?
yes
yeah it all adds up
the only negative aspect is the cost
of sanctification or for the set?
well its an eternal set vs a gold set xd
yeah enchanting/socketing....
i actually have a ma set, having almost 2.5->3k ma buffs or without xD
i have both full mb and full ma set
dam u big boi
What kind of weapons/gear would be needed for guaranteed rank 1 on sieges? Do you legit need mastarius dagger etc or would double abg weapons be enough?
Im working on full 6 slot sw, got 3 pieces, but going for mastarius/padma is too overkill for me cause i really dont care about pve that much
So SW 6 slot and gbg accs + weapons should be enough to get rank 1 at sieges, if you got brain? xD
its easy
i dont even place siege weapons anymore
full att gbg weapons and accs, sw 6 slot
rank 1 even without siege weapons? damn thats nice
i just buy chanter
Hiho everyone, I’m an bit unsure how to proceed with my pvp gear.
I got 2 pieces 55 accs, 1 piece abg acc as well as 40e armor and neck.
I got enough ap & medals for 2 pieces abg accs or should I gather some more and do the abg dagger? ( got taha d and s rn).
Get the dagger
If you're still on level 50 weapons, you will definitely want the dagger.
Ok, thanks for the reply.
I don't know the rank 1 but I was getting 2 plat medals when I was right clicking with a bow (a lv 50 green rarity one)
Do 80% of leathers from Atreia Elyo play with cheats? Ranger unlucky player, Sin Fuit and many other, any time when im in hide and get into their range, they insta pop up all seeing eye...
is it even worth to report those trashes?
If u hide near them they will always see u using skill ok combat logs ofc
If way too far in hide and u come to them they shouldnt use
But always lag radar or spider sense sadly
Also currently in some areas ppl random pop eye
Gelk cave example
ive been in hide for 3 mins and didnt use any buff / skill meanwile
Populated spots/areas are eye candy tbh
Even if no hide log it still depends of u went in to some usual pvp area or they got lags
Write names tbh and if it keeps happing everywhere its sus
Moura ely glad for example has radar 100%
Ive seen at least 3 clips of his shit
70% of asmo as well ... or more
record it and post it maybe this way smtg happens
i post as well suspicious players but cant be sure sometimes
ye there are some
an sm if i remember
idk how most ppl random use eye , but for me most times its in and out forts , most known camp location , crossroads , ingi bottom bridge , camps ofc , telos , tempus . cave
most time all bridges and etc
idk but there are spots i expect hidden players tbh
when im in gelk or ingi, i keep the eye on cd. its common knowledge, that many ranger and sins are camping around the fortress. That random eyo pop doenst matter to me u have still time to react. whats more shit is all those sins and ranger with no ani and ahk^^
what other skills sin gets in 3.0? i know shadowfall and killing spree but do we get massacre?
2.8
massacre is in 2.8
yea yea
huge
also in 3.0 elite primus pilus set is available for medals only or the non set parts only?
elite will turn into a non sen version
wanted to put unskill name but was taken on the other hand not as skilled as yr screenshot 😄
shift+win key + s for screenshot @solemn atlas
Just need press "Impr Pant" and its insta screenshot bruuh, i use discord on mobile but thx for explain an unnecesary tip btw jejeje
@solemn atlas just try it nab its fast and lets you screenshot exactly what u want
Yeeeee biiiixxx i knowwwww thaaat but prefer use mobileeee thaaankiuuuuuuuu jajaj🫶
i only have gladi/chanter cousins
Eric is this guy mikado on medication ? 💊
1st one gets it
lol
i actually applied for that legion and got ghosted when i started again since launch
had no friends 🤡
its myaion, its 3 full autohits
It’s impossible or my aion bugs idk
Hmm 7k silence it’s pve for sure
ye its his pve logs, but he is rank 1 pvp aswell :D
with under 10 ms is it possible maybe ? Idk maybe hax as many more do
i mean.. 0.8 attackspeed means you do 1 autohit every 0.8 seconds
doing 3 in 1 second means your attackspeed is 0.5 or less
if im not wrong
also he does it too often to be myaion bug i guess
tooltip says 0.8, its actually 0.775 with d/s
but sounds fishy x)
still takes atleast ~2.4 sec for 3 auto animations
better if 7k was baseline w/o mb🤡
in pvp
who is it ?
Nanahira or so, should be #1 ely ranking, at least he is running with the badge :D
it cant be me . i do 4 auto atk in 1 sec
nr1 ahk andy
if something is possible with ahk then nanahira uses it
0.75x3 is more then 1 sec tho😂
whats ahk ?
autohotkey
its progrmam ok
btw did you guys know
if u are in shadow walk or hide 2 and use some buffs and after if u relog count resets and u can use again 3 more example for shadow walk w/o break stealth
haha
dont believe ?
ofc i do xD but prey have prob run off doing it🙈
Yea but somehow can come up handy
i mean buff up like a beast, logout and take a shit to login to monster all in after😂
Nanahira is confirmed cheater...
Actually ichirow does same with multiple auto attacks... But he claims he is 100% legit and doing weaving only 😂
Where is proof?
3 auto attacks in a second it's enough proof.
i tought ichirow was little legit what i heard about his weird gamestyle
but ye, 3 autos a sec is impossible
wonder what makes u manage do do that, to reset autos timer
BTW badtman commander radar hax have video too sending to GF
Guys......who is the No 1 Sin on Atreia?
in what? arena? ow? ap rankings? pve?
there prob a few claiming nr1 xD
In terms of who has the best pvp results probably nanahira. In terms of who has the best pve results ichirow. But you wont get one answer cause people are gonna claim that they use cheats etc
Pvp ( maybe forgot someone and I don’t put my name to the list)
Elyos they are worth to named: Checka, Derenaya, Kkthxbye,Nanahira, Hydell,
Asmo worth to be named: swizzikburst,
Don’t know any other on Asmo side ( don’t know Arena Asmo ranking)
You should check his myaion results but your opinion.
Idk competition makes the game more interesting xD
Asmo side not many good sins
Swizzi , and mommy prob in top 5
Idk about rest
I think Apceros is good aswell but no idea tbh
Ely side has more good sins overall
Dont worry guys
It is Not who is the best, but who knows enough about mechanics, tactics, combinations and hotkey/macro assignment
does something change in 2.8 pass with pvp accesories or do they stay e40?
tbh idk? check NA? i know we get 50e armor in pass atleast
would make sense to get 50 accesorys tbh, but idk
Hey I would have 2 questions about physical gear
I've been told that "white attack" is better than "green attack" can someone confirm please ? And I also heard about a crit cap, that we supposedly can't pass 50% crit and that every crit above 650 is wasted. Can someone help please ?
you get white attack from for example enchanting your weapon, it's more valuable because it scales with your skills and buffs
green attack is what you get from socketing attack stones and scales with your autoattacks
the crit cap depends on the content you're playing and the enemy you're facing, 50% is indeed the cap you can reach which is 500 crit if there's no crit strike resist
in general end game pve content most bosses have 150 crit strike resist so you'll have to reach 500 + 150 = 650 crit strike to achieve 50% crit rate
in general end game raid content bosses do not have crit strike resist so you only need 500 crit for duxes
in general end game pvp content well geared people will (starting with 2.8) reach around 400 crit strike resist so you'll need 900 crit strike to reach the 50% cap
all these crit strike values you should reach are buffed, meaning with scroll, food and maybe chanter mantra
for pve i'd highly recommend to always reach the cap even without clear focus (as it only has 50% uptime)
for pvp it's up to you and kind of depends on what content you're mainly playing, for example in dreds and open world pvp you can get away with relying on clear focus but in arenas you can't
I see lot sin full atk 5 and litle witth one part with crit
I think full atk is best choice
if you play around clear focus you'll have 40% crit chance for half the time which with our very high dagger crit modifier of 2.4 will make you lose a lot of damage compared to the additional 6x5 = 30 attack you gain
yea u get 42% value due to 58% pvp reduction
Thx guys
Ok thanks a lot for all the details !
hey guys its me again. you guys said i should go 2 pieces cava and the rest abg. i put that down into gear calcalutor. my question is now: why should i go 2 parts cava? i mean there is no real benefit compared to full abg 😮 https://aiongear.fun/eng/na28/assassin?build=c6a0923c-8956-4db9-ab7d-3d1a58b5e4da
cav chest pants have crit
thats 2 more att stones
like ideall rn you get both sets full
but thats alot of ap and medals
so a good combo is 2x cav 3x egbg
since Cav and eABG cost the same you might as well take 2x Cav 3x eABG since you'll have the better stats
What would you socket each gear with?
atm egbg att crit, cav crit acc, and once you have 60 set you socket egbg to mr
which will still be good as sin with sensory
And then i guess another cloth cava for macc? and 50e cloth for MB is still the best even in 2.8? No research done just winging it lol
my plan is cav cloth full mb
you can stil reach 1.4k macc with it on full mb
and 50e full macc
for like 1800 ish macc but only 500 mb
for like airbind or vs clerics
and then lvl 60 your macc its nuts either way
So you will resocket your 50e to macc once you get cav cloth?
i will just get a 2nd 50e from pass
socket that full macc
and have both
ill do at least 3p cav leather for acc set 1st
with full cav cloth, pve sword and gbg dagger in that case
with 60 pvp dagger main pve sword offhand its 6 macc less
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1041690313145712680/1228244050428297317/image.png?ex=6681b0a9&is=66805f29&hm=077003accd9f1db44f62ea08573c0624696cf7b83e1dc61e6619411e5c9e8176& phys stats with 60pve dagger, 60pvp sword, 60 set, 60 accs
Is there really a big need for acc set as sin? Is it common for people to go full block set against sins? Surely most people know MR set is more effective against sin? Or am i wrong?
Both 50e MB and 50e macc? 😮
rn i have full 50e mboost
and next patch pass should bring full 50e set which ill socket macc
evade ranger, sensory when oath is cd, block when oath is cd is an issue
Fair enough
Yeah forgot that by the time you get to your second cavalier set 2 months of 2.8 would of passed probably, meanwhile you could get that second 50e first or second week of 2.8 from pass
if you go now chest pants cav, small egbg as crit att
then small cav acc
compared to full set both
its 3 acc stones diff
couse on the main pants you dont want to socket acc over att
i think what im gonna do is get 3 small pieces leather cav for acc, then get full cav coth, then get chest pants leahter cav for the 3 extra acc stones
the tankyess diff from 55e to eternal is rly noticeable and atm i need to use full 55e for acc
3+2 best compromise 🙌
@grizzled current L58 mc dagger better then 60 dagger?😳 60 is legion commander dagger right?
you dont change weapons till 3.2
oh , thats when that shit parry dagger vs everything else MA?
https://www.aiononline.com/en-us/news/Versus-Update-Events#growthpass that were the pass changes 2.8
beginner pass 2 = 50e set
growth pass 3 = some 50 acc pieces
Lets see if we get this one
Its 1 part of armor or Its all parts?
you get the full set
the price might be different here but yeah it's a very good deal for an additional set / new or returning players
finally some freebie ma set
"free" until you have to buy the maac stones
i should have enough saved up
for sure, running alrdy with 40e...🤣🤣
i got enough to slot it 😂
u eating snacks without us?
o have 2m ap saved xD but still got gbg stuff left
broke my back so been out of sitting
I have a strange problem with playing sin. Sometimes my character moves, uses skills and auto attacks very smoothly, other times it can be very clumsy and seems to slow down. My ping is stable 30-33, fps constant 120. Several sins from my legion also noticed this. I looked for a solution on Google, but I couldn't find anything. Maybe someone here had a similar problem? Any ideas on how to solve it, maybe changes to cfg?
haven't noticed anything unusual
You most likely desync
Like me
It’s mostly at PvP right?
Specially vs some ppl. Example vs naked I full lag vs him
Must be the difference in ping or smtg not sure
what you're describing sounds like ping fluctuations or paket loss
Actually my connection is perfect, I've checked it withand w/o exitlag and it same. It's mostly annoying in pvp (I think it may be caused by ping differences), but even in pve my char sometimes just stand in place and doesn't want to start next auto attack after using skill, even when I press AA keybind.
Tiark or dred feels bit off cause Instance server but ow mostly ok
Maybe u are talking about that
Otherwise desync
Do i need two extendable weapons as sin for extend effect or one is enough?
yes
you need two extends to get the extendeable effect
Two
sucks no one been putting out alukina dagger/sword on quna market :/
yea
ye took them long enough
xD
i mean 3.2+ or w/e the newest slayer that exists
oh damn i had to read it twice to understand your point
ye
they also have the new eye passive aswell
🤣
Newest slayer?
What did. I miss?
New stigma système too
Nice
the best offensive stats you can reach are with 2x Cav (chest and pants) and 3x eGBG (the rest)
the question is do you want a full tryhard version or hybrid and chill
im getting cav cloth 1st
cav cloth + 50e gloves?
full cav
So whats the draw back?
none
So its the "best" way to go PvP wise?
going full sets both gbg and cav gives you 3 more acc stones on acc set cav
but if cav is just you main att set it doesnt matter
Right now i have full gbg acc + weapons but only 40e set
I can go either route....just dont want to buy both sets because i made a mistake
then go hybrid and make it your main att set
And about cloth set...guess i have to play with season pass AP set for awhile
next patch pass should havbe 50e
full egbg vs full cav
idk the stats of hybrid couse i dont go there
for me cav is just the acc set
just use the calc
loot at full gbg vs full cav vs hybrid
gbg needs less medals
so its simply easier to get
Aye and gbg has more att....our mainstat
So i guess its kinda no brainer to go for gbg
just do hybrid
should be best
here
hybrid set
then later on 3x small cav pieces for acc
just 1 small note if you go hybrid make sure to put 2x crit stones into gbg shoulders
also this is just how much crit i want
some want less and be more dependent on clear focus
I will get 3 complete sets cavalier cloth. 1 Mr. 1 mb. 1. Ma. And then 3 more sets leather. 1 at. 1 Eva. 1 hp and then 2 more cavalier plate complete sets. Just to see the skin
you do know that farming one full set takes about 2-3 months right
Man lol was that so hard to figure out that I troll 👿
Oh and after I get all the sets. Gonna afk at mail box
🤣
typical auxi behaviour
I always play naked....its confusing for my opponent and makes their eyes bleed
Perma Blind and i have a 50% dodge chance!
That’s nice unless If u have pets 😭
bru, as long u aint ginger like me! u aint blinding anyone 😉
Dude.....i m a 50+ year old, fat, bald unshaved and smelly neckbeard ....if this (and the strong smell) doesnt make your eyes bleed, you are something special.....and for the right prize i can be your internet princess
😄
By the way, i live in my mums basement.....like 99% the rest of us tryhards 😛
Now something serious: how in the world are you killing a kiting full Mress Cleric? 0.o
We just fought in dred against a team......we could kill all DPS, but the cleric...man....
He was near unCCable and just jump around like nothing
and with chanter shields and everything else, the enemy group could respawn and regroup all the time and we still had to kill the cleric
thats why i going full cav cloth 1st 🙂
We won i the end....but its sooooooo damn hard to kill a full MRess cleric, its insane
Maybe this is the Way 😛
Ah i need both sets anyway.....1 cloth cav, 1 leather cav/bgb
Hope 3.0 takes some month XD
asmo sin IIIoIII with the random eye pop (got vid) care
you agree he uses ?
idk
Prob not his legion has almost zero clue about the game xd
But first time i see name
Not the usual sm 😂
cant send above 25mb vid poor pleb here no nitro
how to i record lower compress ahh fk it gona record my recording xD
point is even with vid u cant prove anything there is always smthg
and hardcore 1 more cloth cav MA🤓
haha eye and fe right after 😂
Anyone knows how many medals you can get a week with 2.8?
20.1 medals weekly from quests total platinum that is
think ebony is like 50 a week or something
32 weekly from belu quests
2 solo crucible, 1 grp crucible
30-40 siege
tiark dred same quests but 2 medals each
eso new fragments
legion bundle chance for new fragments
So about 62-72 medals? Thats a lot
ye +-
depends a little on kkm siege ofc
and preferable doing siege weapon ingi, boss gelk or the other way around
100% medals
Anyone know where to find lv58 skillbook annihilation ?
is that massacre? if yes you have to drop it / buy it from someone that dropped it on the new world boss
The saturday night World boss in alukina place ?
yes
It will be hard to find :/
yes
Does the skillbook drop random or its fixed as a Class drop?
random to roll and in contribution chest ( regardless of rank)
its similiar to agent fight lootwise
its the same system afaik
so you get a bundle rank 1-5 and if your lucky you get smth, if not you can buy it from others.
This skillbook are tradable ?
i think so
normal skill trainer u when for 50 and below
Full gbg or 3 gbg 2 cav ? opinions
gbg = little more hp more eva more mr more spell resist + para sile gs resist
2cav 3gbg = little more def - more atk cz u get crit alot and u slot 1 more mana - more strike resis more accu more macc
full gbg = most atk
full cav = most acc
2 cav 3 gbg = best compromise and just get 3 cav smal pieces for acc
gbg is best for resist/hp
Playing advocatus diaboli here: Atk > Acc - Change my mind 😛
gbg as att set with mr glasses has been so good
My point is: i see no real reason to go hybrid and/or cav just because it is "new"
I see no real drawback with going full gbg and no real hard convincing fact going cav
But maybe i miss something important.....dunno
i have full gbg as main att set
i will go cav cloth now
couse thats just a must
then ill go cav leather for acc
Sounds like a plan
aight thx all
The only stat increase that could be an argument is Macc.....
on the other hand its just 8 att diff
Macc is interesting though
if u not gear swappig shure
Well. at my current gear i dont have the luxury of swapping anything.....yet
I have both gbg weapons and acc, but still 40e
So no gearswap for me yet
i feel 40e is glasscannon 😂 getting tapped too fast sometimes😂
Its even worse 😛
im getting 50e cloth from pass🥳
i wont go cav cloth anytime soon x)
i would start with 3 small pieces egbg
then see if you can get good amounts of black gold too and go cav chest and pants
if its to slow then you can still go egbg chest pants
Aye
So i know i m not Top Tier, so my medals earned so far are mediocre....but well.....50 in a week is ok i would say
Is it just me or is debilirating seal of detruction same as Blood rune?
They are sharing CD, doing the same amount of dmg/heal.
Am I missing something?
Blood Rune deals more Damage
and heals more :3
which is weird
couse dmg values are listed as same
heal value is listed higher in the new one
but thats 3.0 data
i remember they actually did blood rune better heal back when 2.8 announced in kr?
i became depressed, until i saw almost a 3k heal on tog
I tested the Seals in Inggisson and Blood Rune deals definitly more damage than Seal of Destruction
Btw how much AP do you make in a week?
just natrual ap around 50-100k per day
50-100k per day is pretty good i would say
I get around 30-40k a day, and with Telos and Eso i get around 500k a week
seen a bit kr playing around with new meta stigma changes, and many ar actually running signet with
what your guys opinion with it ?😁
and running darkness rune with signet
does it do so much damage or why 🤔
seems troll without oath
i mean signet is insane if you can fit it in
yea he hit hard x)
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watching this while i finnishing up my ribs on the grilll
but tbh with the stigma changes i'd probably go for the other tree
much better stigmas
yea he go full signet with above normal ones
explo burst is nice addition if it hits
but not slotting oath, thats 2 min cd is weird
it only has +200 internal ma :/
he is slippery as fk with sin step and flash of speed change
i doubt the ranger has or used mr
yea prob
he was just testing builds you mean?
thats true
you need them to have it for multiple fights
but ow, this might be good
explo burst can be good
ye instead of shitty deadly poison
dam i didint even notice, just saw alot of videos, did figure its a tryout, but not training arena
atleast quickie pops, without loosing so much in ow scenarios might be good imo😂
only place i do for now🙈
i never went with signet, how hard in comparison with radiant does it hit with mb?
at least from how i remember it yeah
i mean only option is to lose blinding burst for oath, but thats just not good, when it 80%vs 50 darkness
nah there's no way you can give up blind
xD
me that mostly run ow, i kinda like it
but same, shadowfall is huge
but imo sins is in a weird spot, does not have that same burst compared to patches before😮💨
How do you think about ranger matchup ? I Lost all Time my Arena vs geared ranger
Geared Ranger kills you with 2-3 Shots if he got First Strike
But if you are even geared, well, we have tools to deal with him.....and of course he got tools to deal with you 😄
I win the first fight in général, but without cd its hard
gets better if u have glide skill
Yes i think, in ow the matchup is ok now, but too hard for me in arena
arena ranger just sleep/dispell abuse xD
if not just kite the living shit out xD
in arena 1st inc is important
to remove the initial mau
and same for round 3 if they have jelly
In général i win the first inc, but they facesmash on their keyboard and i take absurde damages, After respawn they juste spam and kill me
Oh they abuse dodge Gear and destroy me because my acc Gear is just a 40e +10 set
i have 55e on acc so pretty much same as their evade
dam.. newer 60 pvp armor with focus on magic sup and defensives
mb swapping more doomed
the new they anounced today gona have even more then current 60 pvp gear
we dont know values, but hopefully not alot
why does it go up by 20%?
i know what u refering to, its not 20%. but i like the mb pops 😂 gives good vibes
its 32 base att and 100 bonus att
and 150 mboost
vs 250 msub
even if its 400 msub
it wont be an issue
its this pve one right?😂
yea but enchant not based on weap dmg, rather same on all weaps?
what
yes but should still compare now to later
ofc
i just dont like the mb gutt, its mostly sins that get hit there
meanwhile gladis get pc/spc/sure strike instant😩
it is ye
its alot of phys dmg increase
could even go for 900 crit
the slighty lower bonus att wont hurt
we should, ppl with full cav will rock ~409
cant wait tbh, it just losing ~38% dmg on runes pops is quite a bit number
but cav also gives more mb compared to now
not alot? think it was 66mb or something
i posted
mine now
and cav + new weapons later
rn i dont have main hand mboost
3.2 i will
yea , 50e vs cav is 10 mb diff
but the ma is juicy, i play to little to invest in cav for now😩
just gbg oh and go 😂
u gona compromise with gbg dagger oh due to enchant bonus most likely right?
na i think gbg gona be alot better until u can slap that dagger more😂
i wonder if that 100% +10 thing is on those weaps too
cant wait to see what it is u need for that
Good morning Gentlemen
So after the first week with 2.8, i could get 58 Medals
Not top tier, i know, but i think its decent enough 🙂
i did 1 siege + daily/weekly i got 38 medals
You get 3 medals for the daily quests, so its 21 if you just do these in a week
Well, anyway....if i can get 210 Medals in 4 weeks, i m ok with that
telos and eso too
but i know i just did daily/weeklys + eso x1 xD
and 1 siege
even missed 1 daily
How to reach 13 k gear score easy ? Socket Eva on full eternal gear ?
I have chain and gives less than campaign 😀
Cuz less eva
To reach 13 k need all parts with 6 slots or like 4 -5 slotted will do
With Eva
yeayea i was refering to gearscore only xD
u can also go fly map and go flying so its activates that also xD
Anything more specific? ☺️
no idea, besides opening wings, gbg helmet and evasion xD and obviously enchantment stones xD
👌 thx
i was using the blue craft helmet (the one with all ele resistances) and that gave like 500 score over my lvl 50 campaign one
<Reaper’s Victory II> any vid ?
you mean the ripclaw skin
its in sophvys patch vid
Visualized Overview of the upcoming patch 2.8 for Aion Classic Europe
It covers the in my opinion most important topics and hopefully helps you to get an easier idea what this patch offers.
In case there are errors or things missing I will write a comment and pin it so you can easily check there!
Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:48 New Max Level 58
0:5...
oh ty'
What would be better for new sin:
e50 cloth and e40 leather bcs later will buy new leather set or just go for e50 leather e40 cloth since its only for the mb?
50e cloth is very good
i have it full mb and full macc atm
and even long term its usefull as full macc set
So best choice would be go e40 leather and go e50 cloth from pass bcs gonna replace armour anyway for leather right? And better to put full ma or mb?
and e40 easyer to enchant
ye
i mostly use full mboost its good enough with slayer or oath vs most targets
alright thanks for the advice
had e40 cloth on wh but ill use e50 cloth instead with e55 wep
use it for pain/radiant swaps
needle hits a bit hard in pve 😂
ye trying to somehow make ma set , but use e50 + x2 e55 wep that im not using now
so pvp attack is there from weps
abg belt+helt seems reasonable
yea i prob gona get that too
1 50e pass
and other when 3,0 hits with just medals😂
full abg acc magic seems very big waste right?
Yes, no mboost. Better with gold 50/55 acs and abg belt
ye but im thinking if i can use the lut acc tbh
like ear x2 and ring x2
since pvp attack will be there from abg belt+neck and 2 pvp wep
Guess you can yea. A bit lower pvp damage but that’s it
Since you’ll have x2 weps that should suffice anyways 🙂
im just gona do 55 + 50 earring for now
might check 60, havent looked at those stats
hi, someone has the old sin guide from 2.x ( or 3.x/4.x it looks like a word data) i saw it on a discord for some days, maybe someone have it or will find it and post it for me pls. ty 🙂
ok found it already ty.
Can you share it here? I'm kinda curious of it.
sure but its very old
some guy asked me about sin matchups and its more or less for starters to understand the basics ( i like it more if u give a student books or documentarys and they can learn by them self thats why)
I have 2 completely newbie sins in legion it should be good for them 😅
https://progamercity.net/aion-guides/6348-guide-assassin.html its from 2012 imagine xD but the knowledge is outdated in some points
Assassin Guide In this guide, I'm going to talk about how to fight different classes in different stigma spec/manastone build. vs. Ranger Fighting rang
are you planning on getting eabg?
couse i went for egbg so i also bought corund glasses instead of gbg chain hat
50 earrings are cheap
hat you can use tac in meantime
i would have bought the chain hat if i didnt go for egbg
egbg gear u mean ?
ye
ah
i need 2 cav parts to finish main set so i dont wanna drag my base ap to the bottom
so max mb for sin is like what 1.3k?
should be more like 1500
ye more is always good
gbg chain hat over tac you also lose less hp on swap
thats also biggest downside of a 40e mboost compared to 50e
abg magic belt is also something nice to get with excess plats
but i think the chain hat is worth it too compared to tac
yy but gotta refarm lots of ap and got to buy cav chest and pants in the way
maybe i can do after idk
i have it +10 from excess stones
i only lose around 300hp swapping to mb and macc
ic
you also have 55 dagger right
that also helps in that regard couse it does have 180 hp
i skipped those
2.4 was barely playable with taha
xD
was pain till gbg dagger haha
i had anu d/d then got tac d+taha s