but i have to disagree as sin ow ap gain is rly good till offi
#Sin master race general
safe charm
u can get kills but shame i find low ranks even in good spots
grizzled current
in like 3-6 days
dred tiak together is what
22k ish
dailys and arena like 6
dapper hornet
you can autism hard if you want but it's exhausting
grizzled current
😂
safe charm
idk this kinah earn and spend is out of hand to progress
not much time available also
stable zephyr
I'm planning to do MB assassin, can anyone tell me is it worth and until 3.1 I would be safe with dmg against others? I was playing the build 12 yrs ago on 2.1 and had a lot of fun, I know its a meme. Anyway also anyone have any guide for Assassin MB maybe?
stable zephyr
xd how about set, is cloth yes?
grizzled current
ye
stable zephyr
And how about the build lifespan against the updates incoming?
stable zephyr
I remember 3.1 killed it with some additional magic resists back in the days
I know its lame, I'm just lazy enough to run around like that
Anyway im lvl 22 soo a lot of time and money to spend kekw
grizzled current
its a 5 min cd bomber with more and more having mres
stable zephyr
What's mres
Oh m ressist
Anyway guildmates told me I will need two sets for pve and pvp, hopefully they will guide me, don't know much after soo many years
grizzled current
mboost stigma tree is only good for open world ap farm
stable zephyr
Soo single target people on spots
grizzled current
but that can be done with normal setup too and using mboost for normal runes
stable zephyr
But we still speak about 2 header 2 tap build?
grizzled current
you decide if its good enough
signet silence does that rune pop as non crit, but you are a 1 trick pony with cd after
stable zephyr
I know
stable zephyr
its useless in arena
In arena I can get stuff even losing yes? I'm to far behind with knowledge to build something more efficient I'm OK with magic boost 2 tap pony
stable zephyr
yes bad idea to just look at 12 year old stuff
It's my video
I know that why ive asked is it still possible to play with
🙂
More escape than killing in video BTW
And ive got this build by translate KR forums by Google translate back in the days
stable zephyr
Oh ok
grizzled current
for every rune ideally even if its just for the macc
stable zephyr
Like a pre set
grizzled current
like a swap
stable zephyr
Ok sounds cool
grizzled current
swap set, use rune, swap back
stable zephyr
More variety
I'm a bit worry about progressing on end game but already got some guild maybe they will help me
We will see. Happy to see aion classic anyway
blissful harbor
swap set, use rune, swap back
good its more common for elyos for now😂
stone notch
Can someone tell me when Sin will stop being useless or I am just bad? 
dapper hornet
it'll get gradually better.
just hang in there
we'll get cool shit like our throwing dagger geting useable on the ground and later it will also dispel any shields like BOIC or iron skin
plus way more attack speed, shadow rage, and so on
you're gonna make it. just give it a few patches.
grizzled current
^
gusty plank
melpheu Asmo (glad) radar hack Care ...
blissful harbor
got hit by that guy when i was about to turn in crowns in core a while back😂
dapper hornet
yea he suddenly made a 180 degree turn in silentera and followed me all the way to the asmo entrance lmao
neat mulch
melpheu Asmo (glad) radar hack Care ...
Moura glad ely too
blissful harbor
yea he suddenly made a 180 degree turn in silentera and followed me all the way ...
did u kill him?🥳
dapper hornet
no, he was zerging so I just TPed
blissful harbor
no, he was zerging so I just TPed
u replaced 40e yet?☺️
reality hitting me with have to work, now when parental leave is ended🥹
dapper hornet
u replaced 40e yet?☺️
no
I'm barely even playing the game rn
sorry to disappoint
wish you the best for getting back into your work life though
must be rough after parental leave
blissful harbor
na going on 2 shifts straight away😂
dapper hornet
got mb set atleast?🥹
for a few months now 🤔
blissful harbor
for a few months now 🤔
i wish i had it, missing 700mb
blissful harbor
what parts are you missing?
haha alot, slowly getting there 😂
neat mulch
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039500092673097749/1218120539319570432/i...
Whaaaaaat ?
neat mulch
3.0 ???
neat mulch
Yes me too
For Bégin 3.0 i will just buy a stronger pve weapons and use abg dagger in second hand if it work for all weap
blissful harbor
abg dagger and 3.0 released pvp dagger have no crit 😦
neat mulch
Yes but pve 3.0 dagger for main hand have Crit, its good
Its like actually dagger/sword
blissful harbor
Yes but pve 3.0 dagger for main hand have Crit, its good
juicy
neat mulch
I have actually primus élite daggers with tribunus sword but i focus abg dagger for main hand and my primus in off hand, with 50e Gear its ok
blissful harbor
i have tac :3
neat mulch
Sin is hard to gear because you need 2 weapons and without Gear + weap + accs its an useless class
neat mulch
Weap IS very important i think
But if u have low gametime, élite primus daggers with tribunus sword IS very good
I duel lot of sin with that, primus accs and 50e vs gbg weap + gbg accs and its ok
blissful harbor
its fine, im going for long run anyway, padma + taha sword is my goal, pvp weap is last what i would buy anyway
soon done with gbg accs, so then i need to do 50/55 magic accs before i even look at weaps xD
neat mulch
Weap IS more important than magical accs
blissful harbor
not for opener burst, and potential to lower kill time with radiant rune up x)
neat mulch
30 AP accs is enough
55 are overrated
For magical switch
Its good if u have lot of AP/medals
But is less important than your weaps or physical accs
blissful harbor
when looking long game i rather take magic accs before weap, due to gametime of 2 kids 😉
looking to complete 55/58 stuff i need until 3.0
63 mb 43ma and 3.7% pvp atk is huge x)
gona use them for MA set too, so its enough for long time :3
dapper hornet
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1039500092673097749/1218120539319570432/i...
idk how to feel about this
we are trading 2.5% pvp attack for a bit of base attack
doesn't seem that huge to me
unless you wanna go for d/s for pvp instead of d/d which would give us a bunch of extra crit
that's nice
blissful harbor
idk how to feel about this
we are trading 2.5% pvp attack for a bit of base atta...
we are not trading anything
1hander get same pvp dmg as 2hander
it just works like atkspeed, and does not stack
dapper hornet
I know but as far as I know we do have stacking pvp atk right now
which stacks higher than 2handers
blissful harbor
true
we gett better base stats and possible better secondary stats atleast for mh 😛
dapper hornet
I mean it is a quality of life change but nothing to get too hyped over imho
I'd get ultra hyped if we got the 2hander treatment in terms of extends
where we can use both pvpatk, attackspeed auf extend all on the same weapon(s)
instead of having to ditch half our damage
now THAT would be a necessary change
blissful harbor
I'd get ultra hyped if we got the 2hander treatment in terms of extends
yes pls god
grizzled current
its sad
grizzled current
sword and bow have macc
blissful harbor
sword and bow have macc
wait instead of parry?
grizzled current
ye
grizzled current
absolute troll
blissful harbor
pvp or pve one?
grizzled current
we need the pve dager
blissful harbor
i mean ma on dagger would be fine
but parry is useless
ma/acc
imagine if that parry stat was a variable rolling from ma/acc/parry/eva depending on luck drop😂
gusty plank
who s gona use both new stigma ? :^
blissful harbor
gusty plank
oh yes
kindred grail
Hi,all I recently started playing as sin
Is there anything that I would need to know about this class? Like some must
Thanks in advance
blissful harbor
our sin xeidon?
gusty plank
dont get excited most of ppl use it ... unfortunaltelly
safe charm
bruh u are mental
i got u twice tday 1 from chatlog u popped wind walk or sw , and second on bridge i heard u putting buffs on
its not my problem u play with low ingame sounds
blissful harbor
its not my problem u play with low ingame sounds
i followee u a while yesterday
hiding in zerg mob😂
safe charm
i think i saw u around smh but cant remember
too much zerg
i think it was near vorgaltem artifact on the slope but i was too far behind :d
blissful harbor
tupp, 3-6 group asmo zergs 😂
we tried get officer kill for out friends officer quest
u where marked 💣
u never came close enough tho
safe charm
yeah im playing safe cause shity rank
blissful harbor
5* ye saw that
blissful harbor
yea sucks being off
safe charm
yea and gl finding high ranks without full group , also no ap event sad
grizzled current
can always ninja one 🙂
gusty plank
right
u just 5/5 find me by coisedance or skill yea
who you kidding man
i chase you while on stealth and you run away like you know alrd and after 5 s a friend of yours pops eye
blissful harbor
sometimes there is some wild 1-5* preys running alone
dapper hornet
who s gona use both new stigma ? :^
better question is, who isn't
grizzled current
depends if we get balance patch right away
dapper hornet
honestly even the pre-patch version is good enough to socket it for the stun and the gap opener alone.
it's like an A tier skill that will later become S tier
which is still amazing
plus mind the super low cooldown
can also be used for chasing or getting away quicker if you do open world and there's mobs nearby
it's just a god tier utility with many uses
safe charm
u just 5/5 find me by coisedance or skill yea
we didnt even had 5 fights just 2 or 3 and we where out to roam and pvp , u come in hide while ranger + sin around and dont expect ppl to put eye up thats your fault , combat log also shows u using skills , plus i expect u to run with the cleric+sm that was out there
anywys this isnt the post to yap about such stuff
gusty plank
ye man right like u gona admit it
safe charm
admit what dude its not my fault u dont use tactics or strategies to play
gusty plank
gtfo man u r not even man to admit it
safe charm
safe charm
yes im a 40yo from africa , do u need anything else?
gusty plank
too much info not intersted
dapper hornet
safe charm
xD
dapper hornet
stop shitting up the master race general
safe charm
agreed
safe charm
sure go ahead
dapper hornet
it's not about fucking each other, but giving each other shits and accusations is not the point of the thread.
we wanna discuss our class here, not some puny drama.
everyone knows that radar shitters are all over the place but we gotta keep in mind that sometimes it's very easy to confuse radar hacks with genuine suspicion.
so if you wanna stir up public drama, do it in #💬│classic-discussions
if you wanna have a fight face to face, do it in DMs
if you wanna report someone, contact https://aion.support.gameforge.com/index.php?lang=en&fld=en
we were trying to have a discussion about one of the upcoming skills and its use cases and viability here, but you guys drowned it out in your fight
and that's a dick move
like knocking over our food because you chose to have a fight and slam your opponent on our table
that's bad manners
dapper hornet
fine whatever then.
safe charm
does step work when rooted smh?
dapper hornet
it's a backward dash, not a blink
so it doesn't work when rooted, and doesn't dispel slows unfortunately
safe charm
hm figured so we still need flash for roots
or lets hope greater healing root will come back to game
dapper hornet
we need the exe treatment with 2 independent root dispels
like break away on retail
that gives us additional stun resist and stuff
god, retail sin was so good 
safe charm
huh ? so was like second rs?
dapper hornet
nah, Break Away was a root dispel that didn't teleport you, but instead have you 1k stun resist for 10 seconds
it was like a mini UD basically
that didn't last as long but dispeled roots and slows
it was amazing
dapper hornet
I don't think we'll get that in classic
safe charm
yep prob not same as that shuriken x3 skill xD
blissful harbor
that gives us additional stun resist and stuff
rs and 2nd break away+emnity to rotate🥳
blissful harbor
I don't think we'll get that in classic
chanter get Rise I, would be fine if we get break away later, as skillbook🥹
dapper hornet
skillbook would be too op, but we can't afford any more stigmas
we're already hitting limits even if we only socket what we consider "essential"
blissful harbor
imo, flash of speed should be skillbook, to mandatory x)
dapper hornet
many stigmas should be skillbooks
without ambush, we have no useful gap closer.
same goes for flash of speed.
flurry is essential for burst, can't call yourself assassin if you attack like a fucking sloth
blinding burst is our only blind which is kind of the inofficial signature cc of sins
everything else is kinda up for debate
sigil strike should be a skillbook because we couldn't build full 5 runes without it (if we don't use ripclaw), but that one is gonna become a skill book anyway
grizzled current
dont forget at
blissful harbor
sigil strike should be a skillbook because we couldn't build full 5 runes withou...
we could, rune slash xD
all those u mention going to skillbook ,would turn us into monsters i believe
dapper hornet
dont forget at
AT, DnS, and so on already have a "weaker" or more shitty version within our base kit.
we already have a shittier DnS (dash attack) and a shittier AT (Spelldodging), so those stigmas are more like an upgrade than an essential addition to our kit
safe charm
im not hunting u im hunting switchback out here
gusty plank
lower rank more idc
gusty plank
ok sure np
kindred grail
guys, could anybody tell me why my dmg is high but dps low? what should i change
dapper hornet
guys, could anybody tell me why my dmg is high but dps low? what should i change
shorter fights
DPS = Damage divided by the amount of seconds a fight takes
also known as D/s
kindred grail
Ok tyy
random nova
@grizzled current free general 
neat mulch
50e in 2.7 pass or no ?
grizzled current
doubt full but maybe a few more pieces throughout the patch
blissful harbor
long we get few more pieces so we can slap 2 full 50e when DP with it comes
grizzled current
i finished 50e cloth on friday
if we get more 50e pieces it means i can build a better macc set then 40e
blissful harbor
if we get more 50e pieces it means i can build a better macc set then 40e
u get full in Daeva pass later🙈
grizzled current
ye thats good
full macc and full mboost then
rn i have 40e full macc (no weapons yet) for 1.7k ish base macc
blissful harbor
rn i have 40e full macc (no weapons yet) for 1.7k ish base macc
tbh dont think weap is needed
grizzled current
ye didnt bother with that yet
ideally is enough macc rest mboost anyway
i want to wait till slayer and see update if macc buffs
slayer or oath are gonna be fine with full mboost
if not 1st plan is to use a different macc mainhand
(padma dirk)
blissful harbor
i prob gona do pve weps mb/ma
and do them +10, due to 1sec delay in swaps
and go for oh mb , and hope to gods its buffs every pvp weap in 3.0🤣
gusty plank
Smurk Asmo SM Radar hack care ...
random nova
will we get Kinah more easily on 2.7 ? or everything same ?
grizzled current
daily kinah from the quests you need to do anyway
dailys and weeklys
and the token world bosses drop alot of kinah too
random nova
hmmmmmm
grizzled current
idk the asmo versions of those
the 2 balaur ones in the elite area
that you should be doing every day for tokens
oh if you mean easier kinah for bots then prob no
but for actual players yes
random nova
im saving kinah for events or for another thing
if ppl will get kinah then our kinah will be nothing
i thinked
random nova
its really good
grizzled current
yea
i wonder if that asmo kept the para
i told him to save it for quna ah couse elyos will pay more
random nova
i have almost 200kk in asmo idk should i spent for preserve the value of kinah or save it
random nova
idk
stable zephyr
Magic boost manastones going up also because of new class?
grizzled current
nah
stable zephyr
Thanks god
grizzled current
just parry xDDDD
stable zephyr
@grizzled current can you suggest what manastones I should put into e40 cloth from season pass. +27?i mean to be efficient in dps and to not spend my whole salary on socketing
stable zephyr
Oh forgot about that, gotcha. 25 then
grizzled current
25 should be fairly cheap
stable zephyr
Dope
dapper hornet
@grizzled current
explain yourself
this is the fucking police
you gotta redeem yourself or we need to expel you
grizzled current
dapper hornet
@blissful harbor
I feel like Checka will have a very unlucky very unfortunate accident.
in the near future
grizzled current
no ahk or synapse tho
dapper hornet
that is definitely synapse
@blissful harbor why are you not here when I need you
blissful harbor
that is definitely synapse
did he go to the forbidden land
dapper hornet
did he go to the forbidden land
yes
he's using a quick switch for runes now
we must expel him
he ain't no longer part of the master race
gotta toss him into the sewers where all the AHK and Synapse people live
Third Party Slums
blissful harbor
from 1 sec to 0.16 sec swaps u say🥹
grizzled current
that is definitely synapse
i dont even have a razr
blissful harbor
checka ate the forbidden fruit🙈
dapper hornet
grizzled current
from 1 sec to 0.16 sec swaps u say🥹
more like 0.4
dapper hornet
this is your home now
grizzled current
the fact that you see the other skillbar rules out ahk and synapse
dapper hornet
the fact that you see the other skillbar literally proves ahk and synapse
blissful harbor
this is your home now
grizzled current
the fact that you see the other skillbar literally proves ahk and synapse
both now?
blissful harbor
haha idc, up to u
dapper hornet
nah only either one
blissful harbor
i was thinking of it, but then i need to so so many macros im lazy so i go legit
dapper hornet
but switching to another bar, pressing all keys and switching back is literally what those quick switch macros do
look at this shit
all of them are being pressed in the same frame
you don't have 13 fingers
blissful harbor
seen kr sin on yt
grizzled current
look it shows 0.3 cd
blissful harbor
not even slow speed could catch his second swap bar😂
grizzled current
ye exactly
ahk and synapse switch so fast that you dont see the skillbar change at all
dapper hornet
yes you do
grizzled current
no?
blissful harbor
slowest youtube playspeed could not catch one im watching😂
dapper hornet
should I post examples or what exactly are you trying to accomplish here?
grizzled current
im at work on phone yes im totally gonna search for that yt vid now 🤡
grizzled current
dapper hornet
it is not big deal but how you can blatantly show pressing 13 buttons and a rune and a switch back to pvp and 2 hotbar switches at inhuman speeds and claim that you don't use third party tools for it
grizzled current
the dmg diff is not that huge
its less mboost
grizzled current
im havent lied that i dont use ahk or synapse tho
grizzled current
did you see the speed
dapper hornet
yes, so?
blissful harbor
diffrence is at most 1 skill + weave weaker
grizzled current
hence the massive speed diff
dapper hornet
it is not big deal but how you can blatantly show pressing 13 buttons and a rune...
explain your technique
blissful harbor
grizzled current
the main problem is that /useleft isnt a thing on classic
dapper hornet
ingame macros are not that fast. they can't press several buttons at the same time.
let alone 13
blissful harbor
ingame macros are not that fast. they can't press several buttons at the same ti...
u can have ingame macro using set swap + rune instant🙈
problem is getting the shit back
dapper hornet
of course you can but it will switch out one piece at a time until it's played out
we all know how set switch macros work ingame, it's nothing like that
blissful harbor
no u are hearing me wrong
macro ~> preset swap ~> rune
instant, problem is 1 sec swap back🙈
individual lines does not work ingsme macro😭 sucks
@grizzled current i tried make a macro on icue, ~0.2 sec delay to fully equip atk set
only shit i need atm to make pve and pvp preset macros 😂
thats why i dont bother for now
blissful harbor
yall need to repent for your sins
lol, i need to explore legal macros, i have not every macro needed yet
dapper hornet
how about using your fingers
blissful harbor
how about using your fingers
im using my fingers 🤓 i dont have either g buttons or mmo mouse
gusty plank
i dont have mouse at all
grizzled current
no
its just +2 base att
fuk enchanting that
all you need is the 60 pve weapon
blissful harbor
well, atleast gbg sword is useable start 3.0
grizzled current
to ditch it a week later
blissful harbor
i prob just gona use padma tbf, in lazy
grizzled current
might aswell not play at all
grizzled current
gbg dagger is bis till the end of the year
blissful harbor
i have everything needed to +10 up anything i get ap wise and manastones for it already
grizzled current
and you can turn a gbg weapon into 70% of new pvp weapon
thats then
alot better then padma already
60 pvp dagger in main
blissful harbor
my goal is trying to catchup,and i need long run until 3.0 to even have a spot
thats why i will compromise for now
blissful harbor
and you can turn a gbg weapon into 70% of new pvp weapon
yea i totally forgot i could reuse gbg dagger to mb set and have oh😂
now that i think about it
grizzled current
that too
the moment i drop 60 pve dagger
i turn my gbg sword in the pvp sword
use gbg dagger for mboost
blissful harbor
yea and get 1 more pve for mb later
dam, i prob gona skip eternal wings, to get dagger to before 3.0😂
dam for me this is a huge time saver🥇
dapper hornet
60 pvp dagger in main
Blazing Salvation in main, 60pvp in offhand
grizzled current
after you drop it
dapper hornet
point taken
grizzled current
did you see the ss after i tagged you
blissful harbor
Blazing Salvation in main, 60pvp in offhand
what does 60 pvp sword have secondary stats?
dapper hornet
I've been tagged like 11 times
for whatever reason
and theres like 600 new posts to reach through
blissful harbor
I've been tagged like 11 times
can tag u in every msg i do if u want
blissful harbor
🤤
grizzled current
@dapper hornet we cant outbuy the bots
grizzled current
sry ive read pve
for some fkn reason
pve sword has att crit macc
pve dagger has att crit parry
grizzled current
you cant rly do that
blissful harbor
if pvp does not have
grizzled current
you wont have enough acc
dapper hornet
you wont have enough acc
fair point, new classes have a shitton of secondary defenses (parry evasion)
blissful harbor
you wont have enough acc
u think? does 60 have that in secondary stats?
blissful harbor
nvm i was refering to OH
blissful harbor
i was not specific, mybad
yea
sucks
would been fine if slayer Also have acc ontop of ma
grizzled current
also remember kr got the patch in steps, they prefarmed medals
we will prob not have that
gusty plank
so u telling me better 1 pve wep and 1 pvp instead of 2 pvp ?
blissful harbor
yes in 3.0
blissful harbor
normalized pvp atk so same on 1h and 2h, but highest apply only, like atkspeed/castspeed
grizzled current
which means we trade like 2% pvp dmg for a pve dagger that has 206 base att
blissful harbor
-+0
blissful harbor
well yea true
whats avg % dmg increase from padma?
i dont even bother to look korean sruff upp xD
blissful harbor
looks like thats gona be a mb weap first for me then
or actually slot acc
atm in acc set i can atleast reach 2.9k without oath
blissful harbor
nice
grizzled current
did but wont buy more got what i need
dapper hornet
it's not about covering your needs it's about making fat bank
dapper hornet
bots could have made huge cash if they just held their manastones
on the other hand, maybe they do and our investments shit the bed when they dump 3000 manastones into the broker on exe release
dapper hornet
gear is net worth
enchantment stones
plus you can slam your enemies with a big dick
blissful harbor
i flipped so i could buy everything else needed besides ap gear😂 i just need to grind it
grizzled current
i already socketed a egbg part
finished enchanting sw for tia
egbg i cant wear pre 3 parts anyway
blissful harbor
extra hp for tia 😌
blissful harbor
egbg i cant wear pre 3 parts anyway
yea u waiting for 2 part cav?
grizzled current
ye
blissful harbor
good call tbf
grizzled current
using them early on just loses you stats
blissful harbor
55e still good until 3.0 imo
dapper hornet
then why dont you use them
I use my funds to invest more
I'm not enchanting
fuck that
went to +14 4 times and now I have given up and stay +10 forever
grizzled current
sadge
blissful harbor
i raisee my funds tenfold 3 times since i started this lovely game
but i need to sell to invest more haha
dapper hornet
blissful harbor
without kinah i cant slack😂
gusty plank
@grizzled current checka go near naked bed and u ll see
while stealth
and at fight u gona desync as well
grizzled current
i cought him many times by surprise
lime badger
Can't find it but @gusty plank was complaining about ppl that using radar hack, when he does it as well 🤣🤣🤣 I've been just running in shadow walk, didn't use anything for like 1 minute, when I was next to him he pop up hide > all seeing eye and ambushed me 😂😂 what a guy
gusty plank
not really man i was killed 2-3 times last 5 minutes
you guys are like 5-6 sins on fort so i used eye
not like i want to kill a rank 7 and use radar ...
lime badger
I've killed you twice before. Ofc you won't say true, but it was so obvious 🤣🤣
gusty plank
dosnt make sense
lime badger
Same glad next to your for nick Moura used aoe 4 times when I was next to him 😂
lime badger
GG elyo use more spider senses 🙂
gusty plank
maybe i m at 10 ppl that dont use of all serv trust me
neat mulch
Same glad next to your for nick Moura used aoe 4 times when I was next to him 😂
Moura use radar hack yes, i have a record of him
lime badger
I don't want to argue with you, just wanted to say don't complain if you're not better then other cheaters 🙂
See ya in field 😄
gusty plank
i m dont cheat what argue
i heard for moura as well he Ellyos
@grizzled current how many times you mean ? 1-2 ?
you sure?
blissful harbor
spidersense just aint fun, whats the meaning of having it😂
@grizzled current uses snowman-sense
gusty plank
xDDD
dense cove
powa
random nova
spiral slash 5.3k 
random nova
my max damage was 3.7k with spiral slash now new record
random nova
grizzled current
auto + vaizel xD
random nova
auto + vaizel xD
gusty plank
nabz
dapper hornet
where is the 0?
Where is the You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard. You activate the Power Shard. You deactivate the Power Shard.
dapper hornet
real pros always do that
grizzled current
meh i dont like silence 1 trick pony
alpine plaza
same, mb sin are just some kids who cant play the game for real. cant wait until the mb nerf come like retail back then^^
dapper hornet
same, mb sin are just some kids who cant play the game for real. cant wait until...
you literally just shit on half the channel
alpine plaza
idc
its not a secret that mb assas is just a otp thing. in open pvp u can clearly see that the cant play the game. the are fapping in there little dark room if the can kill the players if they walk out of the fortress.
dapper hornet
I'd like to ask you something
alpine plaza
yes please
dapper hornet
what about using an MB set with signet silence to get a quick daily done for 5 kills, and pvping normally with your regular stigmas?
does that make you a shitter or is it acceptable behavior?
alpine plaza
in my eyes, its a shitter. every assa with a bit skill can do the 5 kill quest daily by himself as ad sin. if he cant, he is just lowskilled.
dapper hornet
is it all about who can and who can't?
would you walk 40 miles just because you can, or would you just get in your car because it's quicker?
I'm not trying to defend anyone here but from my perspective it's more about getting chores done quickly so you can get to the good stuff
because no matter how you do it, going MB makes it quicker. you will get your kills either way. I don't think it's a question of whether you can or can't, it's more about efficiency
alpine plaza
who says its faster?
i see many mb sins struggle to get the kill. because not every attemp is a safe kill.
and if im right, u have to wait for 100% buff? so whats the cd? 5 mins? so 5 kills 5 min waiting, around 20 mins?
and besides that, u trading a kill against ur death? i dont see a good efficiency^^
dapper hornet
who says its faster?
i see many mb sins struggle to get the kill. because not e...
I.
dapper hornet
and if im right, u have to wait for 100% buff? so whats the cd? 5 mins? so 5 kil...
you don't. signet silence is a oneshot most of the time (AA > Ripclaw > Signet > chain rune burst)
efficiency in terms of getting your 5 kill daily done
depending on when you work (or the better question for many aion players: if you work at all), you will be required to jump into zergs anyway
either that, or you zerg yourself.
which people can of course call "teamplay" but it's just as little skill as simply running signet silence
alpine plaza
you don't. signet silence is a oneshot most of the time (AA > Ripclaw > Signet >...
nope not realy. i totaly disagre with that statement. but everyone should play and think how they like. im myself are not a big fan of mboost because i know hot useles it is. in futur patches.
dapper hornet
sure, I can accept that. we don't have to agree on everything.
alpine plaza
we just agree that sin sucks until further patches :p
blissful harbor
i mean mb swap radiant rune and back is just little worse in otp 🙈
sin without mb set for atleast swaps is either a fool or just dont want to optimize dmg
neat mulch
Anyone have loot a New stigma ?
gusty plank
as always i agree with eric
neat mulch
step back stigma will prob take a while😅😂
And any Slayer drop or selled in /3 ?
alpine plaza
sin without mb set for atleast swaps is either a fool or just dont want to optim...
u know not everyone is abusing synapse?
blissful harbor
u know not everyone is abusing synapse?
u can use mb swaps without synapse, increases burst alot
just that swap back thats 1 sec behind
alpine plaza
u mean that ingame shit macros? Which arent working 100% and have a delay?^^
alpine plaza
that shit is not even working to swap from pve to pvp macros when im using it^^
blissful harbor
mines working flawlessly
only time it could fail is if i get hard cc during swaps
alpine plaza
then im glad it works for u and that u have enough kinah to have a full mboost set, a full attk set, and enough ap and medals to get 2 sets
blissful harbor
dont have full mb pvp set atm
dapper hornet
How's everyone doing?
Did any of you get their hands on new stigmas yet?
neat mulch
How's everyone doing?
Did any of you get their hands on new stigmas yet?
No, its so frustrating :/
gusty plank
@grizzled current how much?
blissful harbor
im cheapskate, i can wait😂
blissful harbor
100% ye
random nova
finaly i can start to ma set atleast @grizzled current game givin free 40 set 
i bought abg chest yesterday now ill focus to 55 magic accs for a while for making good ma set
grizzled current
very nice
dapper hornet
2k without an MB set?
Would be roughly 5k with MB, it's what our radiant rune does too
(more like 6k actually but I'd assume it's not exactly 2k)
gusty plank
lend me the slayer form when u log out @grizzled current 😄
grizzled current
blissful harbor
<:bla:1209031273041891370>
i can rent it for 2kk/h
gusty plank
random nova
@grizzled current Did u see my one shot attack build ?
grizzled current
no
random nova
on 2.7 patch there is no guard free ap xD
ppl getting crazy this is better than ap
dapper hornet
why u black
safe charm
@grizzled current damn good burst the dude melted xd
grizzled current
happens when you rez as general at that obelisk xd
grizzled current
haha
doesnt seem to have gear either
hit a 4.5k dashnslash on him her it earlier
grizzled current
yaya
in solo ow im not even using slayer xD
dns is just so much more instant burst and cant socket out flash
safe charm
yeah all true
grizzled current
sin step when 
4 clears 1 stigma drop
grizzled current
🙂
safe charm
how much time u thing it takes for wings the marks??
blissful seal
any abvidec to sin gear plis?
safe charm
what gear u have
blissful harbor
in solo ow im not even using slayer xD
no need x) still very good uptime on suicide runs without it😂
blissful harbor
any abvidec to sin gear plis?
free 40e from dred ~> physical pvp accesorys
tac dagger ~> tahabata sword x7 tempus S rank runs
novice pack buy for 40e cloth for Mb swaps 🙂 or compromise tac cloth if u cant afford
and just slowly get sw leather for pve
tac +40e is enough for all content
blissful seal
what gear u have
i back to game have Steel rake gear
blissful seal
free 40e from dred ~> physical pvp accesorys
tac dagger ~> tahabata sword x7 t...
ohh ty you see easy to get 40e right now
so MB is bis in sin?
blissful harbor
u either go full mb and fight ow as cooldown hero suicide
or u have MB/ma to swap macro for rune pops and back
blissful seal
umm ok ty for help
safe charm
any tips should i upgrade to abg dagger or sword coming for e55 d/s ?
kinda cant buy anything else now except wep or bow xd
grizzled current
gbg dagger sword are best in slot till current kr patch
which also has shit droprates for the new pve mainhand
safe charm
i see so abg dag it is then
grizzled current
i did gbg dagger before accs
grizzled current
i went from taha to gbg weapons
skipped the 55e ones
didnt see much benefit for that short patch time in 2.4
safe charm
ye i get what u mean but i had zero pvp gear before 2.4 only 50e acc sadly
and 1 taha dagger xD
safe charm
at least u are part of slayer form masterrace
dapper hornet
i wonder how much the price will drop in the coming months
judging by NA prices they will stay expensive as shit
on the other hand, it's NA. nobody plays there.
safe charm
i think they are expensive in na to fuck new ppl over
like even if u stay and play gl finding ppl to do u know
grizzled current
for tia i do these, last 2 slots its preference
i dont like beastly scar vs tia
grizzled current
@blissful harbor 
neat mulch
<@162262833797529600> <:shugoreve:724556698886340619>
Drop or buy ?
grizzled current
buy
neat mulch
How much ?
grizzled current
ye
grizzled current
yes
gusty plank
Pff. Gg
grizzled current
How much have you buy ?
in kinah around 300kk
neat mulch
Yes, its just a Bad things to just drop the stigma in hardest dungeon
Stigma should be sell by a npc
grizzled current
and most of it was from att5s and enchant stones
grizzled current
actually around 400mil
all depends how long you wait and what you sell buy
auna ah is weird currently
had a few days of infinite profit glitch with 110s 😂
dapper hornet
this guy is trying to inhale so much copium that the fabric of math itself bends so it looks like he made a better deal that he actually had
grizzled current
nah simply dont care
dapper hornet
it's fine, I know you're struggling with facts sometimes
dapper hornet
you can't use 110s from a previous pass to calculate all of today's costs
that's not how it works
dapper hornet
a cone of ice cream costs 20 cents then because thats how much it cost in the 80s
yw
grizzled current
you live in the past i dont
dapper hornet
because I bought ice skate for 40mil back then and sold it for 250mil now
nah im using current prices
I'm just using items that I have bought in the past to calculate today's costs
dapper hornet
where
dapper hornet
I asked where
grizzled current
yesterday same price
where do you sell items for quna
i dont think you ask valid questions 🙂
dapper hornet
are you always like this?
grizzled current
dumb questions get dumb awnsers 
dapper hornet
nah youre just giving dumb answers because you're trying to pull off crazy mental gymnastics instead of just using current prices for quna, as in quna, which gets generated through the aion shop, not the quna broker
grizzled current
you can generate quna with quna ah and normal ah
dapper hornet
item flipping is fine but you're using it as a fallacy to bend numbers
grizzled current
depends on the item
dapper hornet
you're also completely neglecting all and and fees while we're at it
but you do you
and the quna to kinah direct purchase cost aswell
if you wanna talk quna broker
it all just makes no sense
whatever, it's pointless
honest sundial
the real sin dont play with Assassin step and slayer form.... 🥹
blissful harbor
in kinah around 300kk
thats allright
grizzled current
that was the last kinah expense pre 2.8 since wings dont cost anything
and its just in time for arena fun
gusty plank
Sin step I m afraid is fundamental for new era sin
Problem is I need to burn in pve to play PvP
Cz obv it’s a PvP stigma
neat mulch
Im so frustrating about that
Hardest pve content, very low drop
For mandatory stigma
blissful harbor
alpine plaza
isnt it a prob, that we cant use all stigmas we should need?^^ since we got slayer and sin step we have even a bigger prob
brittle wolf
you should have enough slots for these two additional stigmas
alpine plaza
so u take 5 min hide away and attk buff?
gusty plank
P2w but if u lov the game what to do
grizzled current
prob gonna do arena with shadow walk instead of ls
blissful harbor
i prob gona go for ls in 3.0, to klunky atm imo
neat mulch
https://tenor.com/view/credit-card-swipe-gif-10863986
400€, its really crazy... Just for a skill
blissful harbor
u seriousls? haha
blissful harbor
400€, its really crazy... Just for a skill
everything is hyped, they gona go down alot
happy slayer is not on tiamat tho
neat mulch
everything is hyped, they gona go down alot
It will be so expensive for all Time because its hardest pve content, 1 run per week and droprate IS ridiculous
neat mulch
that instance gets easier with time, it will drop
Problem stay the same : 1 run/week for ridiculous droprate. Checka 6 down, just 1 stigma. 9 possible stigma, probability for drop your stigma is ridiculous
We just need to buy our fucking stigma at npc like retail
neat mulch
10 clears i think 1 stigma
10 fucking run for 1 stigma, imagine After the évent... 10 week, 1 loot
grizzled current
thats why i didnt care about the price
i saved up for mres glasses and the stigmas
got all of that now
neat mulch
I understand that xD
Stigma is too important
I think if stigma drop asmo side, i could pay 300m for buy that
alpine plaza
https://stigma-build.fun/calculator/assassin/e5e87f77-b8fc-4941-9c0b-57a751e8dbb...
never used LS ever i find it a pretty weak skill which can fuck up your chains. But yeah, no attk buff no 5min hide. for me is your build not cool for sins. a sins job is stay hide until someone comes along. Basic hide just useles to me
grizzled current
ls is your only way to cover silence and blind
brittle wolf
LS is your only good option for a save and reliable cover
brittle wolf
Shadowwalk imo is not that important but if you like it then why not
alpine plaza
even its the only way, to cover blind, its still its to clunky. so for me no option, so i rather gamble with the 2 blinds we have instead of the shit skill^^
grizzled current
in most cases the cover is to slow anyway
any plate nowadays manages to press ud and charge in time
brittle wolf
I mean vs plates it's for burting them down, you won't get a cover before UD yes (don't need it either, silence rune and pressure to force to dispel pot is enough)
But sin won't beat a decent plate anyway
blissful harbor
But sin won't beat a decent plate anyway
gladi is 100% possible , u can out burst them as long u have deadly
alpine plaza
lol wtf XD glads easy? he press parry and rdg and kills u with 4 swings XD
brittle wolf
that or just them using charge is enough
grizzled current
ye xD
alpine plaza
only way to burst glad is mboost and luck that u crit otherwise u failed the mission^^
if got bigger chance to burst a cleric then glad just saying
blissful harbor
gusty plank
mb sin = everything is butter 😛
blissful harbor
xD
grizzled current
also
the glad didnt use def stance
and block set
also no charge
also no silence pot
brittle wolf
idk doesn't load at work cuz shit internet here
but yes if the plate doesn't use any of what checka listed then he's beatable
best thing to do against sin is to instantly use the rs kd anyway
grizzled current
i can sometimes spin them before ud tho
neat mulch
gladi is 100% possible , u can out burst them as long u have deadly
No, Geared gladi IS impossible to beat with full cd. Only way for kill good glad is chain proc GS and proc silence before UD. And gladi get a New 700 relfect, its harder AT this patch
grizzled current
couse ping
blissful harbor
No, Geared gladi IS impossible to beat with full cd. Only way for kill good glad...
reflect is only ranged 7m+
brittle wolf
while the reflect doesn't matter glad gets 10% movement speed from it
so kitting a sin becomes way easier
neat mulch
reflect is only ranged 7m+
You are sin, you cant hit at 7m+ range, exept with rune. Good gladi will destroy you ez
brittle wolf
i can sometimes spin them before ud tho
i don't see how the sin would be faster using rs -> chain while reacting than the glad using rs -> chain -> ud
grizzled current
ye it only works vs slow glads
brittle wolf
yeah those are free anyway xd
grizzled current
i won vs nlll today was close
then had quickee with perma on mr
its unwinnable
esp on flight map
blissful harbor
You are sin, you cant hit at 7m+ range, exept with rune. Good gladi will destroy...
u can use extends without getting reflect😂
brittle wolf
then had quickee with perma on mr
yeah that's an insta lose
alpine plaza
based on dmg nuberms, the glad clearly didnt have gear. 500 dmg as glad on a sin XD the starting attackspeed is in my eyes kinda strange aswell.
grizzled current
kr have 5 ms
blissful harbor
that glad have full egbg if u refering to 360p short video
but sin is asmo 100%x2 in that video
blissful harbor
kr have 5 ms
sounds high
neat mulch
u can use extends without getting reflect😂
Euhhh no
blissful harbor
still no 19% atkspeed extend on the new kr ones @60 either
we have to work twice as high as any other class, atleast ass step is a great way towards winning
cant wait for throw dagger and shadowfall to close the gap more
blissful harbor
ah okay
blissful harbor
ye think without chanter and wierd buffs is something there
i need to step up my game, since i started working i been slacking on getting ap and medals
blissful harbor
i prob gona skip wings x)
grizzled current
after wings i might get bow or save relics for 2.8
blissful harbor
after wings i might get bow or save relics for 2.8
i prob only get bow in 3.0
pve + 55 fabled for only medals 😂
alpine plaza
should i force to get abg gear or the wings? acces and weaps i got
grizzled current
what set do you have
brittle wolf
if you currently use the 50e i'd keep that and go for the cavalier set in 2.8 instead