💬┊suggestions-discussion

[high lava]

gandhi

[vagrant tundra]

[patent marten]

lol this guy's suggestions always get me

he never disappoints

[neon lintel]

What do you guys think about hero skins suggestions and hero storyquest with 1-10 chapters? After finishing all the chapters, u can unlock their skins and by purchasing with gems or cash.

Also battlepass will be great too, there is an exclusive hero skins that can be unlocked by purchasing the vip bundle and after completing all season battlepass task.

[mossy gust]

Hero skins would def be a p2w method if it's Igg so if you want a cute skirt on rose knight you'll have to upgrade from grey to gold to max stats they'll surely have

[mossy gust]

Our troops don't eat food anyway so it's like Ramadan right?

[raw valley]

I mean more events is more free stuff in that regard I'm not against it. But what will be next? Demand for event celebrating my country founding day? A pastafarian spaghetti week? This could perpetuate to infinity..

[sturdy phoenix]

I would like an event for my birthday

[raw valley]

That would be at least 365 events each year, assuming everyone with same birthday would agree on same event and didn't demand their own

[patent marten]

it's not about an independence day or something like that though

[mossy gust]

They'd be a load of events if you did every holiday. I mean past week we had Easter, Ramadan and passover

[hexed atlas]

Tbh how would igg do it though make all troops not eat of the month 😆😆

Regardless of troops

[raw valley]

It's exactly what it is about. Every person has different values and believes. What is Easter for one, is founding day for another.

In the end it's only about developers what they pick as worthy of event - obviously it's impossible to have everything.

[mossy gust]

We did have lunar new year so guess they're diverse right

[raw valley]

If developers would be Aztecs we would probably do some blood sacrifices

[mossy gust]

[hexed atlas]

IGG and many other gaming companies should just be neutral for mejority of the gaming comunity in which gives them a work load thats good enough for their team ect

[gusty summit]

I'm an Ogun worshipper, I want an event honoring that. Just need to sacrifice a dog in game

[mossy gust]

Blood for the blood God, skulls for the skull throne

[slow sparrow]

@lament rain
Ramzan is holly month for us respect it. And seriously i don't want igg to make any event on ramzan. Ramzan is not about to enjoy on social media its about to do good deeds as much as you can. Pray and recite quran give fitrana/zakat.

[raw valley]

IGG is based in Singapore - quite big financial center - that's why we are only required to provide money sacrifices

[lament rain]

@slow sparrow You're right but I only say what I observe and based on the name of the month ''month of blessings'' so I believe the blessing should cut across all aspects of life including leisure time and part of our leisure time is the time for playing games.

[hexed atlas]

@lament rain IGG can make many events and/or skins for different things for sole purpose of celebraiting and/or acknowledging it and such as ramadan and muslims cant easily be done might be due to of the meaning behind them same with other things not trying to target you personally and your beleives its one of those things in life that ya cant get every person to be hand to hand ect

[lament rain]

@hexed atlas you're right, no matter what I do and it's always remain a suggestion and the final say paramountly belongs to the developers, They have the final and decide how to go about it.

[slow sparrow]

Only thing igg need is money if they find it worthy they may can consider your suggestion

[hexed atlas]

Even if 1 person suggested to do a event for the purpose for gamers with disabilities they probably wouldnt such a event for disabilities simply cuase theirs too many to put in the same time peirod like the other events

And its too much work

[mossy gust]

Don't think wheelchair demon slayer would be that effective

[hexed atlas]

Or blind big guy 😝😝

[mossy gust]

He'd be hitting his own team swinging that big arse ball about

[hexed atlas]

Team wipeout

[gusty summit]

Then again, maybe they don't wanna do it cos of the backlash.... I remember a certain elephant shaped monster undergoing a plastic surgery to become a gorilla shaped monster

[mossy gust]

Hindus mad asf

[hexed atlas]

Well they probably think it wont cuase hassel but ppl nowadays would be offended by wrong pronunce and/or cuase drama when theirs no need to be

[mossy gust]

My work said I should put my pronun on my email signature. I may put they/them to confuse everyone

[patent marten]

thy/thou

[mossy gust]

I'd probably get an award or something stupid for it

[hexed atlas]

Well fudge it why not

[frozen kraken]

Why adventure log quests is the best f2p feature?

[vapid lodge]

It stops at level 100 fortress.

[frozen kraken]

Wdym

[vapid lodge]

Adventure log doesn't continue forever. It was a great source of speeds while it lasted.

[frozen kraken]

Okay

Thanks for explaining

[desert monolith]

no but make it easy to have them

[vapid lodge]

They already are easy to get.

[mossy gust]

cries in purple watcher

[patent marten]

i would agree if the suggestion was about chaos dragon

[amber sorrel]

@mossy gust I have way to many watcher medals

[mossy gust]

why you gotta do me dirty like that

[amber sorrel]

I could make watcher all the way gold a 2nd time haha@mossy gust

Also I like hero skin idea since mobile royale by igg has it and it's pretty cool

[mossy gust]

I like it but I know igg will fuk it up by making it heavy p2w

[amber sorrel]

Also it was easy to unlock some. Others u had to buy but they were cheap

You got 1 skin from hero stages collecting them, others you had to buy

[mossy gust]

I'd like skins on heros even as purely aesthetics

[sturdy phoenix]

Going back to ramadan, it could actually be a great event. During entirety of Ramadan just reduce upkeep by 100%

[mossy gust]

So ignore passover

[ashen hamlet]

For Passover you'd have to nuke all your food in bags and start over. LM players have suffered enough

[mossy gust]

frogs falling from sky

[high lava]

damn, p2p heroes p2p for a reason

[patent marten]

you'll still be able to get them faster on the mall

[slow sparrow]

Reduce upkeep 100% for 16h only or for full month?

[ashen hamlet]

Just for 16 hours every day. And then back to normal 😂

[patent marten]

fasting troops :v

add a mosque building too

gives holy stars

[mossy gust]

religious buildings in game

[marble cave]

Damm

[marble cave]

A full month has 720 hours so reduce it for 480 hours

20days

[slow sparrow]

Will you support religious events for hindus/Jewish. Turf decorations with idols or some ✡.
I am a muslim and i want to keep this religious activities out of game.
Note that:: I am a proud muslim

[marble cave]

I was kidding 💀

[marble cave]

This was my first reply bro

[patent marten]

easter and lunar year are not religious? :v

people are too sensitive

for me i welcome any event as it means more freebies

[slow sparrow]

Something in our religion are prohibited and i don't want to do that on any cost. I am muslim and still i am against the suggestion about ramzan.
I don't know anything about easter and lunar year. I live in a coutry where 95% are muslims in my 30 year i only met with 5/6 non muslims.
I am a math professor in a college

[patent marten]

It's prohibited to celebrate ramadan in a lords mobile event?

[slow sparrow]

No, but will you celebrate Jewish events too?

[patent marten]

did you celebrate easter and lunar year? lol it's not about that

it's an event with rewards

[mossy gust]

I ate Easter eggs if that counts

[hexed atlas]

@hidden harness whats the point of making the game p2w when its free on the app store and end up making may end up losing mobile gamers of igg

[tawny hedge]

Wait I thought it was already a p2w game

[gusty summit]

The suggestion about helps is quite nice. Being a while since I've seen a sensible suggestion or one that isn't recycled

[high lava]

im still confused who is gandhi in game lol

[crystal fjord]

Me too....lol

Oops i forgot to turn off mention

[high lava]

all good

[ashen hamlet]

Actually in many countries they are celebrated as secular holidays. Note that IGG focused on all the pagan bunny and egg symbolism and zero of the Christian symbolism of Easter.

But IGG does regularly make events that are symbolic of various cultural holidays - not just western / Christan ones - however they focus on secular holidays or secular aspects of the holiday, and leave religion out of it entirely.

Except for the altar where we sacrifice the blood of our enemies.

[vapid lodge]

@fair thicket do you realize technolabes were made to help f2p players get t4? it takes less than a year if you're in a good guild

[fair thicket]

it takes 10 months

@vapid lodge its impossible for f2p to get 600k gems in less than 8 months

unless you get lots of gifts from guilds which is not the case in newer kingdoms

[ashen hamlet]

He said "less than a year"

Why are you being a jerk and arguing on it? The facts aren't in dispute.
Took you 10 months. Yep. That's less than a year. No one said it's easily achievable in less than 8 months.
Less than a year is quite literally the benchmark.

[fair thicket]

oh lol, chil chill. That was only my suggestion lol

[marble cave]

People really downvoting the suggestion of removing quest might, I guess some people want useless might.

[mossy gust]

gib might

[vapid lodge]

They won't remove the quest might because you already got rewards from it. Deal with the consequences

[marble cave]

I barely have any, thats my problem, missing out on a lot of artifact turf quests

the other rewards are horrible either way, I don't understand how it would be an issue

[olive wren]

https://tenor.com/view/calculating-puzzled-math-confused-confused-look-gif-14677181

[patent marten]

we need turf quests for artifact openings to go beyond just 600

[gusty summit]

The artifact coins you get from those turf quests are cool. The might added is negligible

[amber sorrel]

T4 is possible in 6-8 months fully f2p if you start from the get go getting trickster gold, getting research gear, and doing trove build and trove research

[marble cave]

So if I was to have no current quest might I should just fuck myself by adding it for free coins?

You need to accept the past turf quests to get to the point where you can see the artifact coin quests

[gusty summit]

My artifact turf quests are always at the top

[tough pier]

Can anyone help me how to convince players to join our new guild? Lol

[vapid lodge]

What suggestion is this on?

[sonic beacon]

Then you have claimed enough quests to not have they be an issue yet

[high lava]

ah yes, lets let champ be f2p what a joke

[marble cave]

Full mythic champ f2p

[gusty summit]

My alt with 10m quest might can claim artifact quests

Hm.. I could only claim 3... Can't claim the rest

[vapid lodge]

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message

[vapid lodge]

@desert monolith there are multiple researches to increase the infirmary size

[mossy gust]

He probably wants even more infirm space given the recent atk increase updates resulting in more dead troops

[patent marten]

yes we definitely need more infirm size.... too many atk boosts now

[desert monolith]

🧐

[cyan cedar]

[sonic beacon]

Yeah that was what I meant. They are put behind some of the quests, so it depends on what quests you have already claimed. I have 12 million quest might and I needed to claim some of the quests to get mine to show up after the quest for 80 chests

[high lava]

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
could you elaborate on this?

[vagrant tundra]

I think he means like battalions but for monster hunting

[high lava]

ah ok. but they are saved by monster anyways only have to put it in once

just dont think that would be high priority

[vagrant tundra]

Unless you log out of ur acc and into an alt. At least if ur main is on Game Center and alt is not on anything. For me it takes it off but it’s pretty easy to memorize anyways lol

[high lava]

yea, i ran ld player instances tho

[supple radish]

If there's any corporate social responsibility that IGG is willing to embrace, you will implement a button that can turn on and off battle mode and farming mode. Farming mode cannot be activated during battle fury. Farming mode allows others to attack you and steal resources but only in battle mode, you troops will be hurt. No troops are hurt during farm mode. Also, please implement awareness campaigns where a positive gaming environment is encouraged, no discrimination, only inclusion and diversity. Remember there are children playing and adults from all over the world, all levels of education and upbringing who are being exposed to toxicity. Reporting toxicity is time consuming for the player and it's very prevalent. Some players exposed to it for a long time, perceive it as normal. Please, raise awareness campaigns.

I know corporate social responsibility is new to China but the CEO and stakeholders should be familiar with it since this game has audience in worldwide markets. Once you get at the top and you have enough revenue, you should start practicing CSR. You receive from the world but you have to return back to the world now. Charity for children is not enough if you're not protecting the children playing the game ( the teens) as well as adults. Again, people from all over the world play this game. People are very diverse. Let's build that inclusive, positive comunity and care about the people as much as we care about the revenue which keeps this game alive.
Thanks!

[dusty basin]

i rather use shield than "farming mode"

[supple radish]

I'm not going to entertain polemics and I may as my intent is only to submit feedback. Your reality is not aligned with mine but I genuinely care about every player out there and I love this game which in my perspective, is a masterpiece for its genre. However, your statement only backs up the urgent need for CSR and I hope my feedback will be acknowledged by whomever needs to acknowledge it. Feedback has always been the precursor to any potential change. Thanks for understanding! Stay safe !

[shadow vale]

Shouldn’t parents just watch what there kids do? No cooperation is gonna take responsibility for there games paying players issues . Agreed on the shield idea. I’d like a good environment also. I Think most of us agree on that.

[supple radish]

The game is rated teen. You cannot watch them non stop. Also, remember my reality must not always be aligned with yours. CSR is both for adults and children. What's toxic to me, is not toxic to you and so on. We need CSR practices to calibrate the entire community. In their absence, there will no positive gaming environment.

[shadow vale]

Oh many are toxic , but you can’t control that, that’s comes from people being raised with respect. If your experiencing toxic people , try moving. Every guild has its own culture , and so does every kingdom.

Atleast they have the block button. 😂

[supple radish]

It's corporate social responsibility to educate the player base and show them a different reality, one that is actually aligned with the social standards. If as a company, you do nothing then you only care about profit.

[cedar nexus]

I definitely need a new guild, and possibly a new kingdom. 943 is not working for me anymore. SHS are bullies and you have to always be shielded.

[supple radish]

Also, the block button doesn't prevent harrasment and bullying from happening behind your back in global chat.

[shadow vale]

Does if you don’t look

[supple radish]

The block button is not the solution. Educate if you can, punish ( more severely) if you must!

[shadow vale]

You can’t educate on the level you are talking but applaud your intention

[supple radish]

Encouraging players to ignore or get used to it is not called Corporate social responsibility. By the way, CSR is a legal requirement.

[shadow vale]

They are not encouraging, they discourage it, that’s what the report button is for

[supple radish]

Nobody tried. At least they should try. Counties and other business try. It's a collective effort done during full process of globalization. IGG must keep up.

[supple radish]

The block button is not the solution to the underlying issue. Please, go back to researching more into what CSR is. You said people can't be educated to that level. How about we start with you.

Nobody has bad intentions. Not even the toxic ones? Wait, what? Are people toxic? No! Their behaviors are and they can be corrected. We're in full process of globalization. Collective efforts must be done to educate where we can and of course, punish if we must.

Again, IGG and the guys at the top. In the end, they play all the cards. They decide how players and IGG employees are being treated. The guys at the top must educate themselves too.

Or at least stop being ignorant. I'm sure it's not a matter of education.

Anyway, nice chatting! Ha! I got corrupted.

[mossy gust]

[shadow vale]

I don’t need to be educated on a game, idiots get ignored . Buy stock, attend a board meeting.

👍

Explain the monster quick swap idea

[mossy gust]

Russian guild we beat on KvK said he's telling Putin to turn off the Gas so guess IGG better stop him

[shadow vale]

😂

[dusty basin]

my guess is, it's like battalion but for monster hero lineup
it might be useless for player without alt account, but for player with alt it's very useful since everytime I change account the lineup is reseted
i can just click one button instead of five

[supple radish]

It's not only a game if it involves competitive gaming and some accounts cost as much as an appartment. If it's money involved and not in cosmetics...is no longer only a game. If I put $1000 in my account, I expect the company to practice that CSR and promote a positive gaming environment. If I pay $0, I expect the same. However, there is no clear delimitation between free to play and competitive gaming. There is no matchmaking, no ranking or skill based matchup. Both free to play and pay to win are dropped on the same league ( server) and left alone to fight against each other. It's a no brainer that if I invest money, I'll have an advantage in the game.

[shadow vale]

Makes good sense

[supple radish]

Yet! If i invest money or not, I'm still forced to ingnore the underlying issues, the toxicity and even deprive myself from a feature called global chat. Why? Because I have to protect myself from toxicity.

And again, I feel that you don't understand what CSR is and why is it important. I think you need to research more into it if you claim to support positive gaming.

[mossy gust]

I know what CSR is but there's also free speech to keep in place

[shadow vale]

So locking kingdom for months , setting your server based on chosen language is a fair start. End of day, shields protect. I get called all sorts of names in game from people that loose there troops. But I roll with respect. Zeroed today, play tomorrow. Not only are you on the wrong server for this discussion, but I doubt are going to let go of it because you can’t see past the idea that your complaining in a chat about suggestions. Meaning that your not paying attention. Did you read the rules and regulations in game when the screen came on and you clicked ok? You can not see blocked people in world chat. Block em all, don’t matter. Why you let idiots banter bother you in a game? Find your resolve.

[supple radish]

Free speech is what we're doing right now. Freedom of speech must be respectful and considerate of everyone.

[shadow vale]

Speech is it free in all countries

[mossy gust]

Yes, but toxic talk is also apart of speech. You have ability to block people you find offensive

[shadow vale]

👍

[supple radish]

I have a suggestion and this conversation adheres to the server rules. My suggestion is to implement CSR at IGG as it will enhance the gaming experience for everyone and in the long run will pay off as it's going to educate the player base. I don't appreciate your zealous behavior. Again, I'm advising you to educate yourself. For your sake and the players that you're interacting with.

[shadow vale]

The repeated educate myself is you saying I don’t get it.

[supple radish]

You want to contribute to building a beautiful gaming community. It's your responsibility to educate yourself the same way it's IGG s responsibility to practice CSR

[shadow vale]

Again educate myself

👍

[supple radish]

We all must do it.

Don't take it personal. I'm not calling you names like the others do to you in game.

[shadow vale]

No just uneducated

[supple radish]

I never said you're not educated. I'm saying that you're not willing to learn further.

We need to keep up with evolution and changes at a global scale.

[shadow vale]

Got kids ?

[supple radish]

Exit the box and start thinking of solutions that will solve the root cause of an issue and stop being shallow and profit oriented. Superficial solutions are not CSR.

[supple radish]

It's an aspect that I'd like to keep private as well as the fact that I'd like us to keep the conversation on point.

[shadow vale]

Fair enough

[supple radish]

However, I must go. I know you don't understand me. I don't expect you to. But whoever must hear me, will understand.

[shadow vale]

I know what you mean, I validated that way back

[supple radish]

Also, I wish you to be happy everyday and stay safe! It was nice exchanging thoughts on how to improve a game that we both love. A game with both strengths and apportunities. Just like people, we're all broken and flawed but beautiful!

[supple radish]

I missed that statement. That is not compliant with the global standards. And freedom of speech should not hurt others. Freedom of speech should not include racism, sexism, ageism or any form of discrimination. Certain vocabulary is universally deemed as offensive but perceived as normal by certain people. Education or more severe punishments must take place. A person that does not agree with profanity or foul language or holds different values will be marginalized in the game and forced to block a lot of players, leave a lot of guilds and servers. Eventually they have no choice but to embrace toxicity and perceive it as normal and ignore it. This is also not a reply but Gunhall's statement is perfect as it backs up all the above mentioned and hopefully we'll see CSR implemented at IGG as I suggested in this channel.

[mossy gust]

You should look up daryl davis and see what he's done to help people with toxic thoughts by allowing an open dialogue with racists. You might change your stance on auto blocking language You deem offensive

[supple radish]

Sure. I'm open to feedback as well. Is there another name other than Daryl Davis that you can recommend? Preferably names from all over the world? Because remember, it's all about inclusion and diversity and the full process of globalization, the changes in the society that IGG must keep up with when running their business from...a social standpoint.

[mossy gust]

Not off top of my head, but he's best recent example

[supple radish]

I appreciate you for this recommendation. For as long as I live, I'll learn and be open to seeing and understanding every perspective. And this is what I'm hoping IGG will do in the near future. Because only through understanding and an open mind you can drive change that will lead to that positive gaming environment and experience.

[gusty summit]

@lethal iron dns reset for everyone at the same time. Wym?

[vapid lodge]

He's saying half should respawn at a different time just so that he can hide troops

[cosmic jacinth]

or could hide troops on his shielded friends castles

[amber sorrel]

The darknests end at server reset which is a set time but different times based on timezone

[raw valley]

Block button is complete and final solution. If you don't want hear someone, block him/her. Problem solved. If you are bothered by fact that person will talk about you behind block wall. Well of course he/she will. What do you think people do in real life when you leave some conversation?

[lethal iron]

not always a possibility. There’s not much communication between my guild mates. If I’d ask to know about people’s shields, only a few people would respond

[ashen hamlet]

Get a better guild

[supple radish]

Right. An analogy to real life is great! As they keep forgetting that in the game there are real people playing, most players will display toxic behaviours. this reminder is perfect but it's the company's social responsibility to remind them of this aspect. Also, if you look at these games servers, kingdoms as to companies, you'll notice how the management takes no actions to promote and support a positive culture or coach their employees. Yes, toxicity happens but actions should be taken. Ignorance ( the block button) or is not bliss. There is coaching and corrective actions that can be taken. Only corrective actions are being taken but there is no actual coaching. If you punish someone but they don't understand why, they will repeat the same mistakes over and over. And don't get me wrong, I'm not saying we should have a TOS employee and player in a one on one. It's not only TOS or the development team's job to educate.They can but acknowledge the bad deed and punish. It's a collective, corporate social responsibility to educate through marketing campaigns, events or by creating awareness through every possible means! Let's come up with a game character or an entire event or create a new guild logo or a castle/ character skin with the primary goal being not profit but player base education/ coaching. And yes, I know, that wouldn't necessarily be an original ideea but the design can be original. The same way we copied the Artefacts concept from another game in order to enhance the competitive aspects of the game, the same way we can revamp this ideea but this time with the main goal of exercising corporate social responsibility. Now I assure this could also generate revenue. What player doesn't like to feel valued, cared for and SAFE in a game. Even the ones embracing different views, once they understand IGG's goal and the "coaching" starts to be effective, they will understand that IGG sees them as people and cares not only about the company revenue.

I can only praise and be appreciative of the devs, TOS and the entire work coming from ranks below CEO, COO, CIO, CFO . They've done their best with the resources and knowledge they had because again, the fish gets rotten from the head down and corporate social responsibility refers to how we treat both employees and the players. I really suggest that we take this CSR more seriously. It's worth it in the long run and IGG must keep up with the global goals.

[supple radish]

And I wanted to ask, as I'm only suggesting potential solutions to underlying issues, are you an employee? Because I see you stating " the block button is the final solution" . If you were an employee, you would only back up my statement where there's this need for a change as well as the urgency of efficient and effective implementation of CSR practices.

[shadow vale]

Hmm, no kids, obviously. Wrong platform to still be on this. Back to above conversation

[shadow vale]

Agree with knome , better guild

[supple radish]

I don't agree. I have not yet found a better guild. Why? Because you don't call a guild better from a social standpoint. He's facing a social issue. And all people are good. It's up to IGG to highlight the goodness in people.

[supple radish]

If you were an employee, you would successfully fail to highlight the goodness in people with such a statement. An assumption which is off the topic we were discussing, implementing CSR and its long term benefits on gaming experience.

I still remember the day when Marketing prioritized Cereal Day celebration over the International Women's Day by sending a communication to all players that could have successfully applied CSR practices and prevented the gender discrimination that's going on in the game right now but instead it missed this opportunity to create of buildings a better gaming experience. This would have been a very cost efficient solution also. I have been a victim myself and I have travelled a lot. My solution was to file a police report. Why? Because as the abuser would say " i put more money in the game than you. They would only silence me" . And that's very true. How about we educate rather than punish. It's not my duty to educate him. It's IGG's. Start with that cheap email. It's a start! It can be done.

And again, I don't hate the abusers and I don't blame them. It's the company that must try to educate first. Because punishing is not always the solution. And it's also time consuming for a player to keep recording and reporting. I want to spend 1h per day playing and not dodging or ignoring toxicity. I want to spend quality time and time is money. I don't want to spend an additional hour reporting also or moving from kingdom to kingdom only to find the same thing.

[vapid lodge]

What started all of this in this channel?

[supple radish]

Are you referring to the suggestion of implementing corporate social responsibility and the reasons why it's urgent and beneficial to do so?

Reasons which I have provided and I also have substantial proof to supply if needed? But of course, my goal is only to suggest and raise awareness.

[shadow vale]

Like my suggestion if blocking players in game and world chat, block works here too. 😉 and I’m happier now because of it. Problem solved .

About the artifact quest suggestion, I was able to claim several on top, go through a few super low might quest to get to the others . Sound about right? Or do they jump to top xx per day?

[supple radish]

Ban is also a solution. In the game there is no moderator. If you block them they will keep denigrating you. In here that's not possible. Blocking is not the solution.

A kingdom moderator would help, yes but I'm not sure how feasible that is.

This is another reason why we need to implement CSR. I have more proof. Hours of video recording and screenshots of private conversationtions and global conversations.

I can share screenshots of how every abusive player states " IGG will do nothing to me". that's not true but they will silence them for maximum 24h and they will do the same. Again, I urge you and suggest that we implement CSR.

The behavior is not corrected and underlying issue not resolved.

[vapid lodge]

I just saw your guild board and umm..

You're one person trying to convince a large company to change their ways.

[dusty basin]

[vapid lodge]

They have links to three different videos on their board as well. indeed.

[dusty basin]

this convo should've end here

[mossy gust]

I think the initial suggestion has lost all value from the wall of texts

[raw valley]

Yes and I'm also able to manage my emotions and am able to ignore certain things(people) I don't like. If I have problem with someone, it's my problem,not problem of my employer. I'm an adult and am able to manage my own things. Relationship with my employer is business one, i trade my skills and work time for money. Nothing more. Same as gamer plays game. If he/she has issue with another player, he/she has all tools to ignore such person.

[supple radish]

And again, all you do is back me up and I appreciate you for that.

[supple radish]

And thank you as well for backing up the urgent need to implement what I suggested. Now we really need changes to happen as soon as possible.

[vapid lodge]

The first part of this makes no sense.
Wouldn't battle mode and farming mode just be switching hero talents?

You'd steal resources without losing your troops, which would allow you to make more troops.. the whole point of attacking is to gain kills or gain resources. Take both of those out and there's no point stacking people

Also, I don't think you realize how many times people here have told you, to use the block button...

[supple radish]

Great question but the main opportunity to improve is not the way the game was designed or it's mechanics and any other opportunity is related to its main.

[supple radish]

I do have a lot of ideas related on how we could improve this aspect of the game but we first need to resolve the fundamental issues.

[vapid lodge]

"we" being "you".

[supple radish]

The way you phrased this question backs up my statements again. I appreciate you for that. Thank you.

[vapid lodge]

[supple radish]

Right. Yes, I'm also trying to leave the game or contribute and yes, what I wrote on my guild board is how I think. We do need that change, urgently.

I chose to try and bring my contribution first.

[vapid lodge]

What you're suggesting is they make an entirely different game, or that they change too many things at once and it'll make people stop playing.

[supple radish]

Not at all. Implementing CSR property is all it takes. The rest will cause a positive domino effect and the benefits will never ceases to appear. Benefit from both a quality of workplace, quality of the game, player experience and revenue standpoint!

[marble cave]

i agree who heartedly with whatever @supple radish has to say

[supple radish]

And it doesn't cost a thing! That marketing email could have celebrated the international Women's Day as opposed to Cereal Day. I was in kingdom 1004 back then. I stated this idea in global chat and what do you think that happened next? We were both amused by situation and we started wishing each other instead " happy international woman's day". This may have upset that person who hates women and keep breaking the terms of service as well as the laws but this reminder contributed to showing people other perspectives and potentially drove change. This must come from IGG.

[raw valley]

No that's not what I said. On contrary I said there is enough tools for you to deal with players YOU deem toxic. If you can't use them, ask live support.

[supple radish]

You're doing the same thing, friend. Backing up my statement. Again, appreciate you for that and I'm happy you have not refrained from replying.

[raw valley]

My apologies to live support

[supple radish]

I love support too. But you can't ask too much of them. They need support too!

[raw valley]

Good

[supple radish]

So again, thank you for backing up my statement. CSR should be the priority of IGG at the moment.

[vapid lodge]

Doesn't this whole thing fall apart if your "farming mode" suggestion isn't viable?

[supple radish]

Not at all.

[raw valley]

Again I DID NOT support anything you wrote. And as far as I'm concerned IGG can do whatever it wants in their corporate structure.

[supple radish]

It's a matter of perception which is something that that we all need to work on. Understanding and learning to respect different views. CSR can help with that.

[patent marten]

love hurts

change my mind

[vapid lodge]

Actually, it appears that you are trying to bend everyone's words into supporting your original idea.
DryDuck did not support your original statement in any way.

[patent marten]

no one said nothing so everyone thinks love hurts, thank you for the support

[raw valley]

Perception is of course individual. So you have to learn to deal with yours and I have to learn to deal with mine. No one is here to cater to your ideas, others may or may not agree with you but that's about all.

Anyways I think we all would deserve warning this is spam

[vapid lodge]

Already took care of that spam.

[raw valley]

[patent marten]

bro you scared the cr*p out of me, thought you blocked me

[vapid lodge]

They went from giving an actual in-game suggestion to pushing unrelated stuff.
"War mode" is talent sets, "farming mode without losing troops" is just dragon Arena.

[supple radish]

Yes, and we could use a little help from igg with calibrating the entire community with this ideea.

[vapid lodge]

Also, they started in 1004? That means they missed out on a lot of the game's history. the sanctuary wasn't even a thing at one point. They're taking too much for granted.

[supple radish]

I haven't actually but I believe you're heading towards an unproductive conversation and this again backs up my statement and the urgency of implementing CSR.

[wicked gazelle]

we need exchange extravanga back

[patent marten]

agreed

[vapid lodge]

You want a company to project your ideals on everyone in the game? That's not going to happen

[vapid lodge]

See my above statement regarding you twisting other's words to suit your own thoughts.

[wicked gazelle]

@hot mulch , why is he upvoting himself

[vapid lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/masters-of-the-universe-skeletor-nope-abandon-thread-abandon-thread-bye-gif-20308146

[raw valley]

Nope, entire community is already calibrated to the ideas I presented here.

[supple radish]

I would like to see a company aligned with the global goals and whether it's going to happen is not for you or me to say. I'm here to suggest and I'd appreciate if you stopped speaking in behalf of a company that you're not abilitated to represent only to gain advantage in a conversation. Gaining advantage in a conversation is not the purpose of this group. The purpose is to suggest changes that could potentially lead to progress. Your behavior is inhibiting any suggestion making in this channel and therefore is violating the group rules.

Not to mention the fact that you're turning the conversation into an unproductive one. And again, you're backing up my statements.

[supple radish]

Given the police report I had to submit, it's not the case.

IGG won't be monitoring this channel but I can forward the entire conversation that I have recorded to them.

[vapid lodge]

Or you could just type in #📑┊suggestions-no-chat .

[supple radish]

And another thing that backs up my statement, we don't need to be monitored non stop in order to act in a civilized manner. This is exactly what's not happening in the game right now.

[vapid lodge]

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-squarepants-to-do-list-long-list-gif-5580267

[raw valley]

This is exactly what happens in game, and if someone don't acts exactly to your wishes. You can block him/her. What's the issue again?

Edit It's rethorical question

[hexed atlas]

I dont even know half the 💩💩 li is saying anyways

[supple radish]

That's rude haha.

There's no need for insults

[vapid lodge]

No insults were made.

[patent marten]

https://tenor.com/view/karen-scream-hilo-gif-20530468

[supple radish]

It's rethorical because I already answered this question.

[raw valley]

Exactly

[hexed atlas]

We need a block button on this server tbh

[vapid lodge]

There is.

[supple radish]

But anyway, that's all I had to say on this topic and hopefully we'll see changes happening soon. Gaming is an integral part of my life and possibly part of many other people's lives. The change starts with CSR implentation as I stated above. To avoid wasting my time the same way I would waste CS and TOS team's time, I'll walk away and wish everyone to stay happy and safe. I'll go submit another police report until things change in the game.

[raw valley]

But we can talk behind your back then.. better to shoot anyone you don't agree with or don't like. Only way to be sure

[supple radish]

Thanks for supporting my statements! You have a great day and stay safe!

[raw valley]

I didn't but you too

[patent marten]

shoot? caareful with your words brother, a police report might be getting cooked

[vapid lodge]

A local police report about something in Discord involving a conversation about a company in Singapore all for them to take action against someone else completely

Wasting police resources instead of pressing three buttons to block someone. Very productive.

[supple radish]

Oh! Thank you again for backing up my statement. You too also have a great day.

[patent marten]

thank you for supporting her statements

[supple radish]

You all are actually.

[hexed atlas]

And the block button puts the persons points as invalid 🤣🤣

[raw valley]

Thanks to all for supporting MY words

[vapid lodge]

Fun fact about the block button, her walls of text get collapsed.

[mossy gust]

I feel like I'm on shrooms reading all this

[urban kite]

I don't even understand most of this convo

[mossy gust]

I did at 1st but it spiraled into nothingness

[hexed atlas]

Some things is better left to one self

[mossy gust]

I made really important suggestion which I think needs to be discussed further in here

[ashen hamlet]

Thank you for backing up my statement! Have a nice day

[wicked gazelle]

What is CSR

[mossy gust]

[wicked gazelle]

?

Cs ranked , lol

[mossy gust]

You not read through the wall of texts above?

[ashen hamlet]

CSR Limited https://g.co/kgs/PWTTW4

If you're Australian, CSR means either cement or sugar*

*do not confuse them

[wicked gazelle]

Im indian

[mossy gust]

It's corporate social responsibility

[wicked gazelle]

https://tenor.com/view/pedro-monkey-puppet-meme-awkward-gif-15268759

who wants exchange extravanga

why is that option needed ann?

[ashen hamlet]

What option?

[mossy gust]

[patent marten]

and guildfest rewards* man i cant edit my suggestion

[amber sorrel]

I've spent 2 days reading the Babble of the delusional ( it's a delusion due to the fact that 90% of players just ignore people or stay out of global bc like all games its trolls) and the bending of words as support when in actuality no one truly agreed. Also who sends a report to the police for non life threatening words in a game? Someone should put them in a call of duty multi-player game lobby

@mossy gust they need a laugh response to your suggestion

[mossy gust]

[hot mulch]

Bro in Election there is also we can give self vote .....and it's the game ....so why not self voting....

[mossy gust]

It's equivalent of "liking" your own post on Facebook

[lethal iron]

Once I get strong enough to be accepted I will lol

[amber sorrel]

@lethal iron what's your might?

[patent marten]

madhunter

we need you for taiwan server

[amber sorrel]

Reset shortly but idk if anything new for a few days

[gusty summit]

I missed all this lmao

Seeing CSR everywhere and idk what that means

[amber sorrel]

Corporate social responsibility, basically the company of said game monitoring everything and anything insensitive or bad being reported and player being banned

@gusty summit

[gusty summit]

Ohh

Do companies actually follow that? Apart from the dumb censorings?

[gusty summit]

So who's she filing a police report against? Lemme guess.... Guy?

[amber sorrel]

No someone in their kingdom@gusty summit also no most companies only involve when real life threats are made for the most part, aside from that trolls remain trolls

[raw valley]

Only bankrupted one. When you start this path you will eventually end up in banning good portion of your community. Because for some people anything is toxic - even mere disagreement.

[gusty summit]

True true.

[shadow vale]

[mossy gust]

No way rally times should be reduced

[ashen hamlet]

I'd run shorter darknests if I could.

Heck, I'd run shorter war rallies if I could, but I don't think it's a good idea... Everyone deserves 5 minutes warning if they're getting rallied. Just encourages shorter showers = saves water and electricity. 🌍

[marble cave]

hai tuan. saya cadangkan istana tahap 17 ke atas hanya boleh menyerang istana tahap 17 ke atas saja . dan istana tahap 16 hanya boleh menyerang istana tahap 16 ke bawah saja . adakah tuan setuju?

[supple radish]

"Does freedom of speech gives us the right to offend? ", this being the title of a Ted Talk held at TEDxNPS in Singapore by Trisha Unnikrishan. I recommend you watch it. You probably will or won't but to sum up, we will always offend, willingly or not. There are ways to differente the intention behind the speaker just like Boilen Point did with me in one of my previous comments. All my respect, he's a highly emotionally intelligent person. Generally, if the intention is to build and not to destroy, one's mind will be open to education and new knowledge.
As for the reason why I filed the police report, only me and the other player know what really happened as well as the institution where I filed the complain. In case there were any misunderstandings, I listed the applicable laws on my diplomacy board to back up my actions and remind the player that not only he is harming me, even though I made that aspect very clear several times, TOO MANY TIMES, but also to remind him that he's breaking the terms of service as well as the laws. Morover, I've always received support from our law enforcement even when it came down to a minor gravity case such as losing my dog. Cyberbullying, however, is punishable by law in many countries and its effect can lead to the victim suffering from mental disorders such as PTSD, anxiety and depression. Morover, these online gaming communities harbors not only the average war game player that gets angry and throws an insult once in a while but real criminals that make it a goal out of harrasment, bullying and so on, in order obtain personal gain. From phishing attempt to children and human trafficking in general, everything is possible and we should not dismiss any incident, especially one where a police report is being filed. I appreciate you for being open and respectful towards different views.

[hexed atlas]

Landak suggesting basically based on your castle lvl you should only attack the same lvl of castle 😑😑

[supple radish]

As for more information related to the benefits of implementing CSR I recommend you visit the official government website, the U.S. chamber of commerce foundation ( you can find such online publication in almost every country)

[mossy gust]

[cosmic jacinth]

this CSR stuff is still going on? lol

[dusty basin]

[lethal iron]

46m and 45m. I’ve played for 90 days now

[supple radish]

Not really. I promise I'm done. I know we all want to focus on actual gaming rather then the less pleasant aspects of gaming. I'll respect that. I cannot dismiss those and therefore I submitted feedback in the suggestion no chat channel. If you upvote, I'll stop posting here! 🤭 This falls under blackmail category, right? 😊 Happy gaming!

"x" upvotes work too! 🤭

[amber sorrel]

X isn't an up vote but then again as stated you seem delusional on this whole topic and the things people have stated. Even when they disagreed openly you were thanking them for agreeing with you. Seems like you don't know how to read context or have general understanding of what others say

[hexed atlas]

Well easier to block and/or ingore her than to give her attention that she managed to get

[supple radish]

I will kindly ask you to stop using the term "delusional". This is meant as an offence since it's pointed at me. In my perspective this should not be tolerated on a server where civilized communication is encouraged. Also, I believe only a mental health professional should make such statements in the context where they are excercising their profession and thank you for bringing in my attention that text typo, potentially an English language knowledge gap. From now on I will be able to convey my message with more fidelity.

[amber sorrel]

Luckily for you I have a family member whom is a licensed therapist, I've taken psychology classes myself, can read a dsm 5 as well as a dictionary. The definition of delusional is a person with beliefs that are contradicted by reality or rational argument. Which is what you have been doing for roughly 3 days now

[fair kettle]

IGG ID: 1075741665

[supple radish]

And what is reality? Reality is information. Information that I posses and determined me to view gaming with different eyes and helped me identify certain improvement points. Whether you agree with them or not is not a reason to insult another and make such statements in the context where you're only a gaming server user and not a mental health professional excercising his profesion. Also, with the knowledge I have, a professional would never make such statements but again, it's not up to me to look at you as to an abusive player or a fraud and therefore I will only ask you to keep the conversation on point and impartial. Thank you and again, happy gaming!

And hopefully the server admin will acknowledge this and take the appropriate actions. I'm recording everything anyway. For my personal safety.

[amber sorrel]

The biggest issue people have with mental health professionals is they want them to tell them they are right or be on their side, when things don't go that way said person tends to try and find someone who will do that.

[supple radish]

Right. I agree with the fact that some, not all patients ( and people in general, you don't have to be mentally ill to disagree) like to hear what they want. I'm saying some because we cannot generalize the same way we cannot claim that all UK players are huligans. However, we're looking at keeping the conversation on point and morover, steering clear from throwing insults at each other the same way we should do in the game. I appreciate you for understanding and respecting the communication standards/ boundaries that are set on the Discord server and in the game. Again, I wish you a great day!

[patent marten]

igg needs to hire a psychologist for each kingdom to cater for player needs

ps: it's a freaking joke

[supple radish]

If you read the online government article you will see that protecting "vulnerable gamblers" is included in CSR obligations and that does require a certain level of psychology knowledge as well as emotional intelligence.

[patent marten]

and what does one like me who lives in Africa do?

first world problems

i barely find food to live

[supple radish]

Then you must be Mr. Dangote since you're playing Lords Mobile 🤭 ( i do not want to go in the direction where micro-transactions are the response to hacking and cheating as opposed to properly implemented CSR)
Again, generalizing is not a good ideea because in full process of globalization, started years ago, not everyone in a certain country holds the same values or beliefs, possess the same wealth or knowledge. Not to mention that financial situation may or may not fluctuate throughout a person's life and this is dependent on personal choices and global factors such as Government efforts to educate the population, natural disasters such as tornadoes, earthquakes, COVID-19, etc. CSR is meant to align with global goals. One of the global goals is to educate or further educate the population from every country as education is the precursor of prevention. To prevent or mitigate in game toxicity, corruption ( cheating, hacking, illegal transactions which are also the reason behind abusive behavior) education or further education is the key. Now if some people prefer punishment as oppose to education that's their personal choice. I respect personal choices.

[patent marten]

nah people like you just tend to get offended much quicker :v

can someone take my mic

i need to feed the chickens

[supple radish]

Ok. I respect your feedback but the the purpose of this discussion room is to address feedback towards the game not another person. Again, I hope the server mod acknowledged this. You have a great day, friend!

[vapid lodge]

Multiple people have called you delusional, and you don't seem to understand who they are saying is delusional.
Even I think you are delusional.
You also said you were done explaining this. Over an hour ago.

[supple radish]

There is a community moderator. I do not worry about it. I feel safe. I hope this is acknowledge by the right people.

[vapid lodge]

What makes you think that they'll read through every word you read like a corporate monkey?

say *

No point editing a message when you'll turn it into something to "support" you 🙄

[supple radish]

Yes, my selfish goal is to bring my contribution to a game we all love so much. I play many other games and stated in the past, gaming is an integral part of my life. I'm sure CSR is already practiced to a certain extent at IGG, some companies have their own department for that. Hopefully my suggestion is a good reminder and again whether you agree or not, it's your own choice. I do steer clear from insults though only because I'm trying to be compliant with the standards set by IGG and because this is who I want to be. Now I wish you too a beautiful day! Happy gaming, friend!

[vapid lodge]

I put this in a shitposting server I'm in that has civilized discussions on issues that come from the shitposts thenselves. Even they say that Li is exhausting

[patent marten]

more like "im sorry that you are delusional" kekw

[vapid lodge]

[amber sorrel]

Atleast I'm not the only one who sees the delusion, also they seem to be an everyone deserves a trophy type person

[vapid lodge]

Yep

[glacial halo]

[amber sorrel]

@radiant reef also they stated that they are recording everything for their own protection

[vapid lodge]

They can screenshot my screenshots, idc

[mossy gust]

Still going on

Imagine copying my suggestion

[ashen hamlet]

Imagine being someone who is pushing for CSR and campaigning against online toxic behaviour, yet makes such an offensive comment directed at an individual

Literally making a joke that anyone from Africa who plays LM could only be a hugely corrupt Nigerian billionaire.

Tell me you're a hypocrite without telling me you're a hypocrite

[amber sorrel]

Or you know stating blackmail

[supple radish]

And again, thank you for backing up my statement that we need urgent implemention of CSR! And yes I agree, I could be more concise.

Have a great day!

And please upvote or downvote in the no chat suggestion.

[amber sorrel]

Oh look the person violating their own CSR propaganda speaks about how it needs implemented. Is this delusion or the definition of insanity at this point

@vapid lodge

[supple radish]

Actually, I'm not violating any propaganda because it's not a propaganda. It's a suggestion. You keep directing insults at me instead of being imparțial

[amber sorrel]

You insulted @patent marten about being a certain person, you posted blackmail about upvote for me to stop talking

[mossy gust]

Thank you for backing up my statement

[vapid lodge]

@fleet ember that's the point of migration scrolls. To protect the newer players.

Or at least, the rules behind the scrolls

[fleet ember]

I’m saying to remove restrictions based on how old your account is

[vapid lodge]

So what would Partial Restriction 1 and 2 be?

Be based on*

[amber sorrel]

He doesn't want them I assume, bc if the time restraint is removed, it would have to be a might restriction issue I'd assume but unsure @vapid lodge

[fleet ember]

That’s what I want removed, like you said migration scrolls already protect new players. Restrictions based on how old a account is just limits low might players

[fleet ember]

Exactly, the more might you have the harder it is to get into new kingdoms already

[vapid lodge]

[tough sentinel]

And why the hell isn't it getting implemented then :/

[fleet ember]

But not being able to join a kingdom because you played for too long kinda sucks

[tough sentinel]

A fucking month for a wall is too much

My friend had it for 48 months

48 days*

I did. Read the goddamn suggestion before judging

[vapid lodge]

There's a familiar that repairs walls.

[amber sorrel]

The mole shaman familiar maxed helps with wall repair

[tough sentinel]

Hah, let me guess, pay 2 win familiar? Yeah ain't no way I am paying

[vapid lodge]

No. It's pact 3.

[amber sorrel]

No its f2p familiar

[tough sentinel]

Huh well still a month for a wall is too much

@vapid lodge what's it's name

[vapid lodge]

Mole Shaman repairs any size wall in 2 days at max level

[supple radish]

Battlezone understood exactly what I meant and chose to respond with what I previously stated that I personally find insulting yet he dismissed me and answered to something else. As for the blackmail part, it was accompanied by an emoji and was not a reply to your message. I'd be happy to further clarify in private as I do wish to keep the conversations on the server on point. I don't have to keep dodging insults just because I have a different opinion. Thank you and have a great day

[tough sentinel]

@vapid lodge ok thanks, but which stage is it?

Elder?

[tough sentinel]

Yeah good luck getting that to level 10...

[amber sorrel]

It's stupid easy to get it to lvl 10

[tough sentinel]

@amber sorrel bruh you have one billion might and I have 83 million bruh

[vapid lodge]

It's a rarity 3 familiar 🙄 yes it's easy to get to elder. Same time as Pyris

[tough sentinel]

Difficulties aren't the same

[vapid lodge]

I had mine maxed at 200m

[tough sentinel]

Sure, but i don't pay for this game so I am not gonna get it quickly

[vapid lodge]

Also, might ≠ strength

[tough sentinel]

I am aware

[amber sorrel]

1.7B but my alt is low might and it's maxed

[tough sentinel]

Little to complain about? You think I don't have to wait a month for a wall too? Fucking brainless dumbass :/

I am but you're just dumb

I prefer being salty

[patent marten]

what are thou saying? don't put words in my hole

[tough sentinel]

Ok dumbass 😂

[vapid lodge]

Thank you for supporting my suggestion

[patent marten]

can we finish with this CRS propaganda or whatever it's called

[amber sorrel]

@vapid lodge epic reply

[tough sentinel]

Because you're being rude bruh

[patent marten]

another karen detected

[vapid lodge]

Wouldn't be surprised if it becomes a meme in this channel now

[tough sentinel]

Ok just tell it in a nice way or your mommy didn't teach you to be nice 😂

[patent marten]

we need elon musk to own this discord group

[tough sentinel]

Ok I am not most of the people duh

[vapid lodge]

Then pay money

[tough sentinel]

Nope. I can't afford an electrical guitar and you want me to pay for pixels

[amber sorrel]

I kinda wanna start a new alt to see how long to reach pact 3 and elder and max mole shaman f2p

[tough sentinel]

And you don't pay for anything

As well*

Then we'll see

[amber sorrel]

Yea I have a few f2p accounts

[tough sentinel]

Lmao you think you have an opinion but you don't 🤣

Well idk i was just suggesting something interesting because I am new to this server and a dumbass came and tried to mock me because I didn't know something I couldn't know

True, this server is amazingly full of interesting creatures

[vapid lodge]

"came"? He's been here.

[tough sentinel]

Being offended?

[amber sorrel]

The wall da stipulation has been asked a ton

[tough sentinel]

Are you offended lil shit? Lmao

[tough sentinel]

I didn't know that and he could've said it nicely

But he attempted to mock me

[patent marten]

too many offendeds here.. im not ready for this lifestyle

[amber sorrel]

I am so offended bc Ryan reynolds won't say hi to me

[tough sentinel]

Hi

well some manners are still preferable even tho it's a game, no need to be harsh

I am that kind of person that goes back at you tenfold if you even attempt to be rude

[amber sorrel]

I don't mind rudeness. Only bc I'm a military vet and talk horrible especially bc a lot of my guild is former military or grumpy old men

[supple radish]

Exactly and not everyone is like that. We need to respect everyone if we want to build a diverse, inclusive and positive gaming environment. I've done my part, I set my boundaries. I stated how I wanted to be treated and did not reply in an argumentative manner, did not address any insults and yet those boundaries have been broken several times during our discussion. This lasted so long and turned into an unproductive conversation. If there was any misunderstanding regarding what I wanted to say, everyone could have reached out to me for clarification instead of continuously directing insults at me. This is who I am, like it or not and I believe CSR would help others understand people who think like me and are perceived as delirious or delusional etc

[amber sorrel]

@supple radish for the record that had nothing to do with you, wasn't speaking to you, at you, or about you

[supple radish]

And what do you mean exactly? What message are you trying to convey?

[amber sorrel]

I was just stating something, it had nothing to do with you so replying to it just showed you try to interject any comment as pertaining to you in which case it doesn't always we moved on from you forever ago. As my name states went down a rabbit hole and went mad I'm trying to not stay there thank you, have the day you deserve

[supple radish]

I'm glad we finally agree that you and I have nothing to discuss about. Every harrasment attempt must have an end. When it's too much, it's just too much.

And I'm not sure why it's being tolerated. I shouldn't have gone through all this only to make and potentially...discuss about a suggestion. And I shouldn't have to go through something similar to play a game that I like a lot and will continually support the best I can.

And I'm having a great day @amber sorrel I hope you do the same.

[ashen hamlet]

You're the one who's so noob you don't have mole shaman but you already researched wall so much it takes a month to repair and you can't manage to shield...
And you're the one slinging insults

[mossy gust]

tell me more about harassment in online gaming

[dusty basin]

This is a nice bed time story

[hexed atlas]

But its based on a sad story though 😆😆

[mossy gust]

Li typing

[supple radish]

To me it's not a sad story. Among the 3000+ community members, I'm sure there are people who think like me and understood what I meant. The community is not made up of only 10, 30 less voices resounding in this chat. I've done my part and I'm sure the intent was clear for those that needed to hear me. At the same time I'm happy that I found some opportunities to improve in myself. And I do want to get better and better everyday. I hope everyone has the same expections from themselves the same way we all expect the game to become better from any standpoint.

[hexed atlas]

Well IGG only needs good/great improvements for the game from suggestions not onces like analysing social and anti social and make "toxic" people not "toxic" cuase the world does and always have "toxic" people regardless of what you think and theirs people who will likely disagree on what your aiming for and IGG dont have the time nor the resource to have the time to tempry ban or delete accounts that regards to toxicity ect

[supple radish]

I respect that but you see, this is a suggestions channel not a solutions channel. There are brilliant minds at IGG that can use these suggestions and turn them into something exceptional! It all starts with a community that's open to communicating effectively and efficiently and here's why I believe that focusing more on CSR practices could be the solution to wide range of issues. The way CSR is being implemented, it's up the the employees. All I did was to suggest in a manner as civilized and objective... as possible.

[hexed atlas]

Well either way lets put this down cuase for the sake of every1 else please dont attempt to give days of giving other people insanity of what you may call

[supple radish]

And CSR involves both employees and players. But again, I'm repeating myself and it gets exhausting. It's not something I should do in the game or outside the game

[hexed atlas]

If its not something that you should do then dont do it in the first place please

[earnest hamlet]

So question my good people is it the normal to have your camps get attacked?

[supple radish]

Right... running in circles.

[hexed atlas]

Can be

[earnest hamlet]

In my 3 plus years playing I have never had a camp attacked until today

[hexed atlas]

I bearly put out camps anyways or unless its to waste others time of scouts 😆😆

[glacial halo]

Totally normal

[patent marten]

csr = communist soviet russia

[vapid lodge]

If you can't get a community to get behind your idea, perhaps try using fewer words instead of essays. Or rethink your idea.

[patent marten]

dude we're just 30 people we certainly don't represent the lords mobile discord

[high lava]

lmao its always the wall suggestion

[hexed atlas]

Ik

[supple radish]

Yes, I do agree that being more concise would help but again, I don't have time nor the intent to start a propaganda and repeat myself! I've done this in-game several times. I just wanna play in a safe and positive gaming environment and there is no safe and positive gaming environment!!! Have a great day, friend.

[mossy gust]

[glacial halo]

Can we move on already? It seems like a never ending talk

[high lava]

are we still talking about the presence of toxic people on lords mobile

[supple radish]

Yes. I don't understand why they don't message me in private since from a simple LM suggestion it turned into a Li suggestion channel or let's harras Li for stating her opinion!

Which is something I invited them to do

[glacial halo]

[high lava]

as someone who has traveled with big guilds, let me tell you something. this game knows how to exploit human nature. people are always seeking to stroke their ego by getting some wins, and buying some packs. go into any large kingdom with a rivalry, and theres always shit talk. like "your rally sucks" and "you are all cowards and noodles". thats how the game is. banning toxic players who are bantering in kingdom chat is at least 80 percent of players. igg will only take notice for very extreme cases of hate speech or similar reported to them through live support. and even that is questionable if said player is a massive whale

ive seen the idiots in kingdom chat making themselves and their guild look dumb. ive seen it come from my own guild. the best way to deal with it if you dont wanna join the toxic train is to not look. because looking just starts more problems

in a game where guilds and alliances are designed to work this way, with an easy method of communication to the other team in kingdom chat for everyone to see, its inevitable. now, i wish we all lived in the perfect, happy gaming community sometimes too. but the world isnt quite prefect

smaller kingdoms generally have more of this dynamic though

from my observations

[supple radish]

But indifference helps the oppressor not the abused, right? And it doesn't help the game either.

Indifference doesn't make it a better game. Indifference coming both from the comunity and the game. Again... I also got tired of saying it but that bloody. CSR does help calibrate with those global goals

[high lava]

i would say quite the contrary to your second statement. you see, toxic people in kc make the other side really really mad. like extremely salty. it just feeds more into the toxic kingdom chat. and so players will have a general hate torwards the other side, which means, more packs for igg

i suppose its like going to a local park, and then reporting someone for bullying you in said park, with the government not caring and saying indifference sucks

[supple radish]

And I'm really done. For my sanity

[high lava]

yea if you arent mentally wanting to continue this then dont lol

just giving my 2 cents on the topic

have a nice rest of your day/night

[supple radish]

You too and stay safe!

[high lava]

[supple radish]

One more thing that I wanted to add, sorry I can't dismiss that. People are not toxic. Their behaviors are and those behaviors can be corrected.

We're all broken and flawed but beautiful people.

[vapid lodge]

No, you can't change people's behaviors through a few actions. That's called making them leave.

[high lava]

we dont live in an ideal world

[supple radish]

You're right as nobody can change a person unless that person wants to. What we're aiming is changing the behavior by showing the benefits and letting people decide if they want to change, not themselves but their behaviors in report to other and the game. Again, punishment should be the last resort. As Not Chu stated above, we don't live in a perfect world and this is why people play games, they want to evade the chaos. The global goals are meant to reshape the society, bring balance to it and IGG needs and can align with them. If you check my guild's announcement, Nessun Dorma, N:M you'll see what's my view on balance. The way this balance is restored in the game is just a matter of IGG playing around ALL the ideas and suggestions discussed in here and making changes using their own experience and expertise. At the end of the day, we're the Lords and Ladies expressing happiness or discontent and they're Emperors!

The Emperors in charge and responsible and we matter! The world is not a dystopic place depicted in a George Orwell novel where war is peace and ignorance is strength. Maybe to an extent we are but the world is not heading in that direction. Business must contribute in shaping that better world. I hope it makes sense. I know it sounds crazy especially now with COVID and war in Ukraine and so many other things but everything is meant to rearrange into something better! It's not the first war the humanity had nor the first pandemic! Evolution of technology and humanity followed right after.

[marble cave]

what are you guys talking about

[high lava]

stuff

and hell to the no for more forts

[amber sorrel]

1 fort that is just monster hunt boost haha

[high lava]

rss gather speed

[high lava]

not meaning to be pushy with that suggestion but its been some months lol

uh they did add a good amount of "new" shitfest quest recently

i think it needs a complete overhaul

[amber sorrel]

Yes 3 more quest slots, ability to do 2 quests at a time, keep timer low and add speed fest of 5 min timer, oh and space it out a bit more so people don't hate the insane frequency

[high lava]

someone is down bad

[mossy gust]

How about no t6 at all

[glacial halo]

Lmao! I agree. But if they want to create it, what can we do anyway.

[dusty basin]

skip t6, go t7

[ashen hamlet]

I started a drinking game where every time she says "I'm done now" (or something to that effect), you take a shot.
Every time "thank you for supporting my point, have a great day" you take a shot.

Im Raelly dRink nao

Hic

[mossy gust]

T7 requires 250 excess gold 5 star artifact shards, 100 astralite and 200k tomes

[sonic beacon]

And 300 records per troop

[hexed atlas]

Or 3 shots every time she gives a paragraph 😆😆

[ashen hamlet]

My liver can't take that

[supple radish]

You should listen to NF and Eminem though

I'm writing the lyrics. We need the vocal and instrument artists to play them! Come on

[dusty basin]

Thank you for your feedback, I appreciate it

[mossy gust]

Not really guild fest if you have individual boards is it

[vapid lodge]

That's just exchange extravaganza

[patent marten]

i want extravaganza 4 times a month i dont mind going out of speeds

are we doing some CSR today?

in parallel with johnny depps case

[mossy gust]

She's really hot... shame she took a dump on his bed

[patent marten]

I'm hot too so what

[fleet ember]

Yep it would be cool if guildfest has something like that. Exchange extravaganza is just way too expensive

[fleet ember]

It is, I believe master gauntlet have individual task that ppl can clear themselves. That should be implemented into all gauntlets

[high lava]

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
good foundational concept but the points inflation is a bit much

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
basically the echange

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
meant to be p2p

[fleet ember]

Nr, the exchange doesn’t have as many prizes and it’s also very costly.

[high lava]

exchange prizes are op

[fleet ember]

They r good, but it’s pretty costly to get them. You can complete gf by just gathering, or doing cargo, spamming helps…

Etc

[fleet ember]

Exchange u have to lose gems and speeds, brave hearts, energy etc

[high lava]

but thats all stuff u gonna do anyways

[fleet ember]

But not in one event.

[fleet ember]

Ppl have there own board in master gauntlets. They have 3 slots they can choose from, that should be applicable to every gauntlet.

Atleast to my knowledge, I never made it to master gauntlet

[high lava]

pretty sure they dont

everyone runs on the same board

[fleet ember]

Just looked it up, u pick up one of 3 task that is completely separate from the board in master gauntlet

That would be a good quality of life change in all gauntlets

[high lava]

as someone who has run master gauntlet multiple times, its the same board

unless they changed something in the past few days

[fleet ember]

In master gauntlet, it would say “complete one of the task to earn bonus points.” That’s what I’m referring to, but it would be great if it was able to constantly refresh

[high lava]

ohhh

so you get some bonus tasks in master gauntlet that run through the whole fest

some are like "complete 6 hell event quests" or "complete 6 darknest related quests". you get an option of 3, and you can complete one for bonus points.

it really just gives you one type of event to focus on for some extra points

but everyone shares the same quest board, with same refresh and everything

[fleet ember]

Complete 6 hell events? Oh hecks nah

My next suggestion will be extremely unpopular. 😂

[high lava]

dont remember the bonus quests tho

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/722508436494876773/838598380657311827/13987339988610.jpg?width=897&height=897

[mossy gust]

Ah, I've never got to master so didn't know that was a thing

[ashen hamlet]

Bonus quests in master Gauntlet is very much not everyone getting their own board. It's just one quest. You can't refresh it. The board is same as every other gauntlet (though there's better quests with much higher points in master gauntlet and no quests below 100pt).
The bonus quest is random for each member, you get 3 optional "quests" that aren't at all like the regular quests. You can only complete one of the 3 for bonus points. Some of them might be easy (like spend 3,6m guild coins) or some might be a special kind of nightmare (like "complete 3 purchase packs quests" - that's not purchase 3 packs but do 3 while quests of buy packs.
Chu just posted the whole list, so you can see that some of them are crazy hard and some are easy.
But it's not remotely like everyone getting their own gf board

[spiral marsh]

DA matchmaking is bogus

[high lava]

Indeed

[vapid lodge]

They could fix it by reducing the number of timeslots and leagues so that there was a greater pool in each

[high lava]

its worse in low and high gauntlets

mid gauntlets or tiers seem to match better

but when you get to higher tiers, lower might guilds are rarer and theres a lot more whale guilds

and lower tiers usually have a decent amount of high might guilds that don't really care about da, but sometimes show up and smoosh the little guild

*higher might guilds

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
cant agree with this one tho, guilds busy with different timezones, so more slots is good

[rain mortar]

i think there should be a Overhaul to how the whole map works. I mean like in Rise of Kingdoms where you can move your troops freely or something original but that makes it feel good and free.

[high lava]

uhh as far as kvk matching goes im not so familiar with how they match them. i recall they used to try and match close kingdom numbers but seems thats changed a bit

[high lava]

go stick that in #📑┊suggestions-no-chat

[rain mortar]

how=

?*

[high lava]

just type your message and press enter, the bot in there will turn it into a voting thing like the rest

[high lava]

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
game breaking and unbalance, no

[vapid lodge]

@desert monolith how would that be fair?

[patent marten]

i think he should be temporarily muted from suggestions

a short break

[amber sorrel]

I think yeeted into a dark void is a better idea

[marble cave]

Help! Should I build 2 gym training or spring, I have already 3 spring 2 gym

For pact4

[vapid lodge]

I have 1 spire 2 gyms rest springs. With magus familiar it's basically 1.5 spires. Extra gym is for training

[supple radish]

@vapid lodge I'm still here! passing by to let you know that you may have misclicked in the #📑┊suggestions-no-chat and also to wish you a beautiful day, evening, afternoon depending on where you from!!!

[patent marten]

??

[dusty basin]

thank you for your feedback

[patent marten]

I did not understand what she was pointing towards

anyway wish you a beautiful day, evening, afternoon depending on where you from!!!

[ashen hamlet]

Thanks for agreeing with my point! Have a nice day ☺️

[mossy gust]

Thank you for supporting my suggestion

[amber sorrel]

Thank you for thanking me for thanking you while I get IGG to implement CSR although it's only bc I never played in a call of duty lobby and my feelings are made of snow

@mossy gust

[mossy gust]

Li would have a heart attack playing modern warfare back in the day before party chat came out

[amber sorrel]

Right insane insults

[mossy gust]

I must've been told to kill myself at least 3 times a day lol, shit was wild

[amber sorrel]

3 times kill yourself, your trash, ill marry your mom and give you a brother that will be better at this than you when they are only 3 years old. Or my favorite of all bruh you must even suck at farmville

[mossy gust]

my favourite was a 12 year old screaming, "I'll shag yer gran you cunt"

[supple radish]

It is very odd how we steer clear from using direct speech in a room destined for discussions and I think this is not how it's intended to work. And I do play Call of Duty and I'm aware that there's a lot of toxicity in there also but the game team made it very easy for players to build their own gaming environment. Even though there's toxicity, players can protect themselves from it and they don't need to run from one kingdom to another to protect themselves. Nor do they have to never use the global chat or permanently mute players.

Block not mute

Also, more serious actions are being taken when a player is reported

I personally find Lords Mobile to have the most toxic community and I played both LM and Call of Duty. In Call of Duty I think the opportunity is mainly on players end not on company's end.

In call of duty i can disconnect the BR match and enter a new game almost immediately! In LM I don't even feel like attacking their castle anymore. It takes away all the fun! In LM I'll be stuck with person with whom I had an exchange of divergent opinions for as long as I need to get a migration scroll

In LM you need to change your player name as the person may even stalk you if you migrate. In Call of Duty i will mute the player in the current match , of course without synergy, he will get all the kills and the fun but I get a chance to create further beautiful experiences right after a match ends.

And not to mention that there are other game companies that are striving to create a better gaming environment through going the extra mile! Awareness campaigns etc. There's so much that a gaming company can do!

Where there's will, there's a way

[supple radish]

This happened to me in LM more than three times. I have screenshots and recordings to prove it. I have everything I didn't and do not wish to have.

[supple radish]

And also, why should a player, both me and the person that I argued with, leave the kingdom? Why should one of us make such a compromise to avoid the conflict? The company needs to offer equal chances for both.

[mossy gust]

Call of duty had the other players voice which is much worse than some letters on a screen. You got used to it and talked shit back, if anything i'm glad i went through it as it gave me a tougher skin

[amber sorrel]

6 years of playing and I rarely even see kingdom chat or have issues with people why, because I'm not interested in trolls or giving a damn about what anyone says.

[ashen hamlet]

My liver can't take this drinking game any more. I added in a shot for every extraneous exclamation mark.

[vapid lodge]

Your message didn't ping me because I have you blocked.
I agree with your suggestion.
I don't agree with your other suggestion.

[supple radish]

In your perspective I must have been very abusive since you had me blocked. I must have used profanity and insulted you so bad that you decided not only to block me but mention this aspect again in this conversation. Well, it's a matter of perception and that's why I didn't block you even though you have been very unfriendly and rather an inhibitor of feedback and conversation making.

[vapid lodge]

I said when I blocked you. And I did it purely to collapse your walls of text.

[supple radish]

Yes, that's the perspective of one of the tenured players. I respect that but again, not everyone has the same opinions.

[supple radish]

Extraneous is the feedback addressed towards a person rather than the game.

[amber sorrel]

Because majority of us have zero issue with the game or the trolls

Well let me clarify we have issue with some aspects that could be added, however most ignore the trolls as have been stated multiple times

[supple radish]

How many players make up the majority?

And to back up your statement, show me the numbers, please? I really want to trust you and understand you.

[amber sorrel]

Shall I start a poll? In here alone everyone who replied to you stated they didn't have an issue they just block people but let me find a way to make a poll to see how many people ignore people and how many people get their feelings hurt

[supple radish]

And I listened to your advice. I'm aware and thank you so much for reminding me.

[patent marten]

Jesus christ

[supple radish]

That will be a great ideea but it's not your job to do it and if you want to do it, I bet few people will respond because it's not coming from IGG. Both you and I, as players have one duty. To respect each other and understand there are people out there with different opinions even if they don't speak. If IGG starts a campaign such as the one on Twitter, you and I should respond to that campaign.

Also not only that they won't respond here but this is why Global Chat is dead in most kingdoms. What was once filled with conversations about the game and full of life ended up a desolate place and...a desolate kingdom also. You rarely see people fighting. People don't want to speak anymore. They know what to expect. They anticipate toxicity.

They expect a tenured player to force their opinion over gaming and this game on them.

Force them to think that toxicity is normal and should be ignored

[mossy gust]

Guess people can't bring siege to a rally if the rally lead forgets

[hexed atlas]

Well siege is only useful only at the start of the rally 🤣🤣

[sullen inlet]

Good lord.. What's up with people suggesting to increase shield drop rates!!

[vapid lodge]

Increasing shield drop rates would lower the drop rates of the already-low rare materials

[hexed atlas]

More demands = less likely they gonna get higher

[supple radish]

Not if Santa Claus or the Tooth fairy or the Easter bunny or the Earth, Fire, Air and Water dragons see fit to rewrite the source code!!! Thanks.

Also, I'll make it my goal to get banned from the server whoever denies the existence of the above characters.

[vapid lodge]

The total drop rate of all items can't be higher than 100%. If they increase shields drop rate, they gotta lower something else.

By the way, what is the current drop rates of shields? Do you know how high it currently is before you made your suggestion?

[supple radish]

As mentioned in my feedback, not really. It's not made very clear. Probably it's in the terms and conditions that nobody reads unless they're goal is to find legal breaches and sue the company. Also, 🐉 s exist. Thanks

[amber sorrel]

Lvl 1 monster .3% lvl 2 .34% lvl 3 .55% lvl 4 1.79% lvl 5 .57% shield drop rates

[supple radish]

I appreciate that! And most important for not denying that my reality exists in my reality.

[amber sorrel]

Never said I agree or disagree with your beliefs or fantasies

[supple radish]

Love that!

[supple radish]

Is that drop rate per hit or per monster killed?

@amber sorrel and thanks so much! I wish I had access to this info during my gameplay experience

But as I said, all I could do is dodge toxicity and end up in my guild made up of my accounts and one unique player. Nobody gave me this info as a new player.

I do believe it's per monster!!! Had a moment of high ping! Disregard

[amber sorrel]

It's per hit not kill

[supple radish]

Well thank you so much.

This is the type of attitude I expected to see in game as opposed to ' have you..., before you...'

I didn't even acknowledge the answer above your almost neutral answer which I appreciate more.

[supple radish]

I think gold has 100% probability per hit! Well, not really but I do get a lot of gold. I'll run some more tests

[amber sorrel]

37.47% rss drop on lvl 5 monsters

7.95% gold drop on lvl 5

So almost 50% rss or gold chance

[supple radish]

Thanks again! It took 6 months for me to access this information and witnessing many new players quitting the game in distress and disappointed. "I'm a tenured player, listen to what I say", " you don't know anything about this game" is not what made me receptive to what they had to say. I didn't quit because after trying English speaking guilds, I joined Chinese guilds where the phrasing was more positive and supportive and even if I perfectly understood the biased thinking towards what they called "foreigners" and discouraged it aaand could not change it, overall they were more game oriented and friendly.

[amber sorrel]

I've been r5 of my guild for 6 years lol

[supple radish]

Well, I'm happy I met you outside the game and maybe we'll meet in the game also. Trust me, the people I met when I started playing had same or more tenure. That doesn't impress me. I have tenure and experience with more games that you can think of. Attitude and the ability to understand and support another person that doesn't share the same views matters a lot. The ability to adapt. The community keeps the game alive not only the micro-transactions. Again, I appreciate you. See you around and have a great evening.

[amber sorrel]

My guild is life before game.

[supple radish]

You care about your in-game friends. That sounds good. Being people oriented is what builds a healthy community and a healthy game and revenue.

[amber sorrel]

We have a lot of people that have been with me the whole or most of the time

[supple radish]

I only have one player that stayed with me for longer than one month ( i did not kick out or didn't find a guild with more benefits) and had a very positive approach on the game. That's my friend An Xiao, if you check my guild. Somehow, despite speaking different languages, he understands me better than any. It feels great when we find the people we can resonate with and I hope the game team will find a solution to enable friendship in game. ( In some cases, it's just a matter of how we communicate but in most, it's not, it's the mentality instilled by tenured players and the communication) I've been invited to a lot of guilds. I somehow feel good playing only with a team that fully understands me. At this point I'm rather exhausted and don't want to try a different guild but one of yours could be a candidate in the future.

[mossy gust]

[mossy gust]

How does decreasing troop training speed make people fight more? Wouldn't increasing troop training speed make it easier to rebuild after fighting, resulting in more engagement?

[supple radish]

I know! I tried to edit that right after I submitted it. I meant to suggest decreasing troop training time.

Anyway, we will not linger on typos. We look at the essence of the message.

@mossy gust if you can resubmit it would be cool. Unless that thread is just a place to vent, I don't care where the feedback is coming from. I can't edit it.

I'm trying to speak/ learn so many languages at the same time just so I can understand people better that I honestly don't have time to perfect one.

[mossy gust]

I only submit 2 things

1. sort dragon arena caravans glitching

2. Add guild flags for your castle

[supple radish]

I love the flag idea. I want skins for my characters since they're so beautifuly designed and really don't go well with the overwhelming hate speech in the game. I feel that Rose knight or any other graphic in the game should not be accompanied by the 18+ speech that you can find in other 18+ rated war games.

going back to my suggestion, I'm sure there's no issue with understanding it because of a typo.

[mossy gust]

They'll probably read it in here so will be ok

[supple radish]

What's the probability rate? Don't answer! Have a great day! I had such a constructive morning discussing about the game if playing the game was not necessarily an option. You have a beautiful rest of your day!

[mossy gust]

[vapid lodge]

I'm not even going to respond to the suggestion because it turns into rambling by the end

[ashen hamlet]

Rambling gonna happen either way

[supple radish]

It's in the choices we make. You can always choose not to let it turn into a ramble. And yeah, I wouldn't necessarily upvote that suggestion either given the way it was constructed...but the goal is to keep focus on discussing ideas rather than syntax errors with the purpose of inhibiting conversation making. Syntax corrections are good if the intent is to help another convey a message with more fidelity and I'm sure that's also what you were trying to do.

[patent marten]

I respectfully respect your opinion but I think this LM official discord group should be a safe space for everyone and no one should be subjected to daily harassment even though I know this message will get many rude responses in return but hey I hope you have a nice day/evening wherever you are in the world

[mossy gust]

Thank you for backing Li's statements

[supple radish]

🤣 ❤️ Yes! Thank you, thank you!

[supple radish]

Just like toxicity, I think it won't get those responses. This needs to come from from LM so add more CorporateSR!!! Alright. Have a great day/evening as well!

[glacial halo]

You love this channel so much

[patent marten]

it's the perfect place for a CSR agenda

[glacial halo]

I will refrain myself to argue about CSR

[mossy gust]

What's there to argue about?

[vapid lodge]

@topaz tapir that idea has been suggested too many times. You can do that already if your energy bar is exactly that much

[topaz tapir]

I didnt know that but I always have to just hit single times :/

But maybe if it's been suggested so many times igg should do it haha

[vapid lodge]

Would require a UI rework - too much work for them

(that's a joke)

[mossy gust]

No T6

[marble cave]

why not ? its time because tooo many traps just can build easy+cheap t2t4 comp

its not even worth starting solo rally... always multi because t4/t5 too weak

[sullen inlet]

Why stop at t6 then? Let's go for t10.

[marble cave]

thats 2much..t6 is the sweet spot

[sullen inlet]

They said the same with t5

[patent marten]

whales always find something to complain about that they think is not p2p enough

🐋 🐳

[amber sorrel]

@patent marten no he must just hit like a noodle

[vapid lodge]

@grave saffron ^

[vagrant tundra]

Probably doesn’t even have t5

[mossy gust]

People cried when Astralite came out, so fuck knows why T6 is such a common request

[glacial halo]

T6...

[fair thicket]

Lol

[tawny hedge]

Ahh yes t6 the new and improved way to make f2p suffer

[visual scroll]

Guys, correct me if i am wrong.
This "WeGamers Closure Notice"...
Does this mean that chinese players have no way of playing anymore
They are not allowed to use google or facebook right?

[dusty basin]

they're using wechat to login not wegamers

[ashen hamlet]

The wegamers log in is one of the primary ways that certain illegal in-game accounts function.

Everyone keeps asking IGG to do something about accounts that break TOS.
That's just one thing, but they did it.

People who are legitimate players using a Google or Facebook log in will not be affected.
Players who use WeChat as their guild communication will not be affected (though LM discontinued WeChat affiliation about 2 years ago).

[mossy gust]

Shame they can just use line app for it though

[ashen hamlet]

Or telegram, so I heard

But there's infinite ways guilds can communicate and chat / have alerts outside of the game

[mossy gust]

I meant the tos breaking part

[ashen hamlet]

Ah well I'm not an expert in methods for breaking tos.
I still play the first account I created and I play manually

[mossy gust]

I just know that line is the next most popular after we gamers

[ashen hamlet]

For guild chat?
Why even is that? Line is terrible. I never heard of it before LM, and I've never met anyone who used it before LM or uses it for any other communication reason.

In some regions WhatsApp is common. But why Line?

[supple radish]

Probably because because Line is also very vulnerable from a cybersecurity standpoint and it can be easily hacked. Goes hand in hand with the hacking habits which often involve phishing and hacking the Line account where sensitive data related to the account may have been discussed. But I'm sure there's more to this. Not a hacking expert either but I can easily recognize it. Just happened to me today in game.

[ashen hamlet]

Please don't answer things that don't even make sense for the questions

[supple radish]

Please, allow me my right to speak. To me it makes perfect sense. Neither you or I are here to decide

[ashen hamlet]

Let me dumb it down for you, since despite writing hundreds of walls of text you seem unable to decipher the conversations of others:

Line is shitty. Line is the worst. No one uses it ever for anything except LM. Why is Line so overwhelmingly popular for LM?

This is the discussion to which you answered that it's "probably because Line is very vulnerable... [to hacking]"

I'm not blocking your right to speak, I'm pointing out that you very clearly didn't understand what's being said and your answer makes no sense

And since your answer clearly didn't understand the question, I'm perfectly within my right to say, don't jump in with answers if you don't even know

You're clearly a troll.
You keep trying to bait arguments and when no one takes the bait you insist on continuing it with yourself.
I can't believe anyone is this crazy

[supple radish]

Please, refrain from using that vocabulary with me. I find it offensive. It's not the first time when I asked you to do so. Also, I mentioned a little bit more than your rather reductive and offensive message. Morover, I used some industry terminology.

[ashen hamlet]

There you go again. Blocking my right to free speech

[supple radish]

I'm recording everything.

[ashen hamlet]

You aren't here to decide.

[supple radish]

Carry on. It's being recorded

[ashen hamlet]

Yeah you keep saying you're recording everything. So you're recording yourself trying to bait people into attacking, but no one attacks m

You made an horrifically offensive, racist statement against an African person. And then said it's just a joke m

You're racist.

But it's cool, you recorded yourself doing it.

[supple radish]

I guess I made it clear what's offensive for me and not. Now are we going to move on from the main idea, hacking?

[patent marten]

you don't need to record a video, there's a chat log here

🤡

[ashen hamlet]

Hacking isn't part of this conversation. You just came in and inserted yourself into it and said the topic is hacking.
It's not.
But you're hijacking

[supple radish]

I feel much safer when I have my side of the story

[patent marten]

yes, it's a sign of borderline personality disorder

[supple radish]

Is this not an open discussion where everyone can join?

[supple radish]

It's the result of the level of toxicity allowed

[ashen hamlet]

Your side of the story when you feel it's acceptable to make racist comments, and then shut down anyone who says anything you disagree with, and then insist no one block your freedom of speech (which you don't have, that's not a right here), but you take offence at the commonly used (and not offensive) phrase "dumb it down"

[patent marten]

Jesus woman

[supple radish]

Can we focus now on the topic of hacking?

[patent marten]

hackerman?

https://tenor.com/view/hacker-hackerman-kung-fury-gif-7953536

[supple radish]

When are we going to resume the conversation related to hacking?

[ashen hamlet]

Why would we focus on the topic of hacking?
We were just having a conversation that wasn't related to hacking, you said it's because of hacking and now you're insisting that the topic is hacking

[vapid lodge]

That was me er a topic here. You tried making it the main subject when it never was.
You also said Line was "easily" hackable without anything to back that up.

never*

[patent marten]

You've just offended Line employees by saying it's easily hackable

I'm recording this on camera

[ashen hamlet]

Actually the reason Line is so popular is because of stickers, and stickers are loved by people with borderline personality disorders. So can we please get back to the topic of borderline personality disorder

[supple radish]

Au contraire. There are studies out there made by cybersecurity specialists indicating that Line App is full of vulnerabilities

[ashen hamlet]

Stop changing the subject! We're talking about stickers

[patent marten]

You are under civilian arrest

[supple radish]

I rest my case! Have a great day!

[ashen hamlet]

Thanks for providing my point. Have a great day ☺️

[supple radish]

And thanks for backing up my statement

[supple radish]

You got it babe

[patent marten]

she beat you to it, too late

[ashen hamlet]

I'm offended that someone who doesn't know me calls me babe. This is sexual harassment

[supple radish]

Yeah! As fast as new Tesla engine!

[supple radish]

I'll refrain from making such comment in the future but will you? Equality...

Equality which does not take place in this conversation thread not in the game.

[patent marten]

you called her babe though

[supple radish]

Thanks again for backing up my statement

[ashen hamlet]

What does equality have to do with it?

Can you dumb it down for me please

Also can you stop pinging. I find it highly offensive and it feels like an attack

[supple radish]

I wish you would apologize for the things I found offensive and you did repeatedly. But all I can do is refrain from doing what upset you while ensuring my freedom of speech

[patent marten]

Thank God you aren't a judge

[supple radish]

Talk to the Discord management. That's a feature free to use.

[patent marten]

or maybe you are

[dusty basin]

so, when we gonna back to hacking subject?

[supple radish]

I may be something around that.

[patent marten]

That's why bad things happen in the world

[supple radish]

Exactly. Or any other constructive topic of conversation?

Hacking is actually what happened to me today.

[dusty basin]

[ashen hamlet]

You don't have any right to freedom of speech

[patent marten]

you just called her babe

and then you talk about harassment

[supple radish]

I did clarify that aspect. Can we keep the conversation on point now?

[patent marten]

(im using the same tactics as you btw, idc if you call me a potato)

[white gale]

?warn @supple radish racist comments are not permitted in this server

[serene sable]

Equilibrium#7131 has been warned. || racist comments are not permitted in this server

[supple radish]

I have a lot of respect for a person that abides the server rules.

I did clarify later on what I meant when making that comment

This is overzealous

[white gale]

?warn @supple radish making multiple harassing comments with personal attacks, sexual harassment, bullying. Please read the rules of this server.

[serene sable]

Equilibrium#7131 has been warned. || making multiple harassing comments with personal attacks, sexual harassment, bullying. Please read the rules of this server.

[supple radish]

Please, refer to my clarification. Thanks

I'm recording, yes. No worries.

[white gale]

@supple radish You have been bullying and harassing members in this channel for days. As has been pointed out, you are trying to bait a reaction. This is considered trolling which is a violation of the rules of this server, to which you have agreed.

[supple radish]

Can you point out the examples of bullying?

[patent marten]

you're still trolling

i advise you to stop and just move on

[supple radish]

I'd like to no longer repeat such behaviors and align myself with your views over bullying

[white gale]

I've just pointed out two specific ones

[supple radish]

Well, I would like to discuss about the topic I pointed out earlier.

[white gale]

You are derailing this channel. Stop it please.

[supple radish]

Ok. I did explain why I said those things, I brought clarification on the intent and can we now look at the other server violations coming from the other members?

[supple radish]

I asked several times to keep the conversation on point. Am I the one that deserves the punishment?

[white gale]

There have been multiple reports from members in this server who feel harassed by you, and we take this seriously.
People have told you directly that they feel harassed, that you're talking over them, pushing your agenda, ignoring others, repeating yourself.
You choose to continue this behaviour, which is toxic.
Please stop

Turn off the @ when you reply. It is in the server rules not to ping staff

[supple radish]

I will stop. But what is the solution for me to express my opinion without being harrased and reported for matters that I find unfair?

[white gale]

In fact, you changed the topic, forced your opinion on others who were discussing something different and are now demanding that people stay "on topic" on the topic you randomly decided, after you steamrolled in.

[white gale]

You have expressed your opinion. At great length. Repeatedly.
And no one stopped you.
However you've taken it too far.

[supple radish]

Ok.who is staff? Nobody presented themselves as stuff. And even so, my intent is not to disturb but to join an exchange of ideas.

[supple radish]

In fact, attempts to stop me have been made.

[white gale]

I'm staff. I have every variety of moderator role and I just asked you nicely to stop pinging and turn off the @. Yet you continue to do this, despite it being rude and despite being told it's against the rules of the server

Given that I just warned you twice for breaking server rules, that should have tipped you off

[supple radish]

I'm replying as seen in my recording. I'm not using the @

[white gale]

And to be clear: staff have been reading your entire diatribe going on for multiple days.
No one has stopped you. You've had space to air your opinion.
And I'm telling you: you are harassing people with it. You are using manipulation tactics to dominate and control the conversation.
I'm asking you to stop

https://c.tenor.com/ddg6ge2H_T0AAAAM/discord-reply.gif

Please turn off the @ when you reply.
If you're unable to do this, you can post your reply naturally without using the reply feature. People will know what you're replying to because it's obvious

[supple radish]

To which extent one's opinion is considered manipulation. Explain so I can refrain from repeating this behavior.

I will turn off the @. Thanks

And why would one's person desire to see a game better is interpreted as manipulation?

[white gale]

Over 200 messages from one person in one channel all on the one topic within a week. During which time you talked over people, repeated yourself over and over, pushed your opinions while shutting down others, twisted people's words to fit your agenda, more repetition.

[white gale]

This is a perfect example.
No one said your desire to make the game better is manipulation.
Your method is manipulative. Your method is toxic behaviour.
But you saying that your desire for a better game is twisting it and that is, itself, a manipulation.

You've been asked to stop, and you aren't doing so.

[supple radish]

I respect your opinion but I believe talking over people is possible in verbal communication not written communication. I see the same people talking over and over. Ralerly new faces. I believe I post my messages with the same frequency as the common faces. Is there a limit of posts per day?

[white gale]

You're being told by multiple people, and now by staff, that you're going too far. Yet you persist. This is bullying and trolling behaviour.

[supple radish]

I do wish to calibrate with your views, that's all.

[white gale]

This channel was until a week ago full of a large variety of users who chat and discuss suggestions. You have dominated it to the point that most people no longer feel safe to join this channel.

[supple radish]

I understand. If you believe that I'm detrimental to the community, I will stop using this channel.

[white gale]

You personally decided that this entire channel is solely for hosting your own topic, even to the point that when people are discussing an unrelated topic, you interject and tell them the topic is something else and then chastised them for getting "off topic". This is bullying and manipulation

[supple radish]

I will only use the suggestion no chat channel. Sounds good?

I never decided anything. I'm just expressing my feedback. And I'm glad that I was finally able to speak to someone that fully understands.

Also, I don't feel safe discussing here. It's just a feedback.

[glacial halo]

Omg... not again

[stable plaza]

[supple radish]

And my feedback for you is that I understand that you're doing what you have to do but I also understand that you understand me. Have a good day. As stated, I'll be monitoring from now on. You won't see me chatting in here.

[ashen hamlet]

Wdym again? 😂😭😂😂 It never ended

[glacial halo]

I dont know if this is too rude for you but Li, get a life

[ashen hamlet]

Best to ignore her.

[stable plaza]

Well hey that's rude

[supple radish]

Is the moderator seeing this?

[ashen hamlet]

Anyway, why is Line so popular?

[supple radish]

Is the moderator warning?

[ashen hamlet]

It's actually the worst thing, so why do so many guilds insist on it?

[glacial halo]

I dont like line either. We cant manage chat as discord do. I dont know how it is in your area, but it also has a lot of ads too 🥴

[stable plaza]

People follow others, quite a few use lines so other started it too

[vapid lodge]

I have Line installed for my guild. I don't use it, but I get on there if someone's shield drops

[patent marten]

is "get a life" offensive now?

[amber sorrel]

@ashen hamlet I use line for chat and such before discord became popular, I hate what's app, and used we chat for a bit bc you could be out of game and still chat in game. Line was used for hephbot information and easy set up kvk allies chat calls for rally collab

[ashen hamlet]

That's the thing. I've never heard of anyone who used Line, or even heard of Line before LM.

[amber sorrel]

@glacial halo my line app has zero ads

[stable plaza]

And some find discord complicated

[ashen hamlet]

I was a discord user for games way preceding LM

[vapid lodge]

^

[ashen hamlet]

And since we announced to our guild that were discontinuing Line and all guild communication is moving to discord, things improved SO MUCH

[patent marten]

I have Korean friends that told me Line is popular in Korea, but other than that people don't use it

[stable plaza]

Many Japanese people I know use it and not just for game

[glacial halo]

Mine has a lot ppftt

[ashen hamlet]

Ahh maybe because the original hephbot crew used it for that, it bled in to regular LM life... That's an interesting possibility

[glacial halo]

Cmiiw but i think it is korean company

Or japanese?

[patent marten]

no idea

[amber sorrel]

Line app us a Korean owned company

Is*

[patent marten]

makes sense then

[ashen hamlet]

It's Japanese, but a subsidiary of a Korean company. That allows China to mine and access user data freely

[stable plaza]

Could be countless possibilities for it to be famous, can only guess wouldn't really know the exact reason

[ashen hamlet]

Just googled it😂

[patent marten]

I don't imagine people saving their passwords there anyway

[ashen hamlet]

I also hate WhatsApp. But I know a lot of South American guilds use it over other options

[glacial halo]

And one thing about line i dont like is they only have one room, a spam bot like trivia games is kinda annoying. It buries important messages

[patent marten]

if you want to go for the most privacy go for telegram, even though it's never 100% sure if their servers are transparent

[stable plaza]

Make your own app

[ashen hamlet]

I still have Line for the get few, rare people who don't use discord for whatever reason, and a couple Guildies on WhatsApp. But we're 95% a discord guild and never looked back

[patent marten]

has to go through a server though

I have just pinged you sry :v

[stable plaza]

Some find discord difficult and wouldn't be sure about whatsapp but I personally hate it

[glacial halo]

I have telegram lol if only many of my friends dont use Whatsapp, i will mostlikely delete it from my phone

[stable plaza]

It's fine

[ashen hamlet]

Being able to organise guild discussions into topics, like general, war rallies, darknests, gear questions, off topic, NSFW, etc. And having voice channels for coordinating DA, wow, KvK, running doubles... It's invaluable

[stable plaza]

True, can't keep post NSFW in other channels

[ashen hamlet]

Extra benefit being able to turn off alerts for general chats and turn on alerts for war room or other important channels

[stable plaza]

We got both line and discord, line is mandatory and discord server just started not long ago

[ashen hamlet]

We started out with Line - as most guilds do. And then got discord because we preferred it but no one used it until me and the r5 just said one day: we're no longer using Line, everyone has to be in Discord.

[stable plaza]

We had line from day 1 but unlike the r5s main guild we didn't use discord till a while back

[ashen hamlet]

Some people grumbled (because no one likes change and people hate downloading new apps) but within a day or two of trying Discord, everyone prefers it.
And being able to jump between multiple servers and having LM official on the same platform... It's the best hands down

[stable plaza]

Well we all know discord is better but yea some people find some of the features difficult to get used to

[ashen hamlet]

Personally I use telegram for my primary chat app for pessoal stuff, and we used it extensively for Ingress gaming communities, but for managing large groups, discord has so much functionality

[stable plaza]

I have account on telegram but never actually used it

[vapid lodge]

All of this talk is reminding me of my Clash Kik groups looking back it's primitive compared to Discord

I'm actually thankful for them for moving things to Discord

[stable plaza]

I have had discord for years, probably even before I was eligible for it. Got hacked once so this one is second

[glacial halo]

How did your discord get hacked?

[stable plaza]

Link click when I was 12

[glacial halo]

*To encourage people to rebuild rather than leaving the game

[ashen hamlet]

Fair.
I'm always a bit sad at how often I see a Castle a few days after I zero them and it's just dead, quit.

[glacial halo]

Yeah, i feel bad seeing that too

[stable plaza]

I would prefer speeds over the rss they give too

Don't mind both of them tbh

[ashen hamlet]

I don't want players to be too afraid to fury, because if I see them I'll set a rally immediately and they're terrified to lose everything. If extra supplies included some amount of speeds, people might be more game to try and less likely to rage quit

So then I can burn them again

[vapid lodge]

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
Since you don't care about your leader or sheltering, change your hero to one that you don't use in any monster hunting lineup or hero stage team, and stay in monster hunting gear. 🙄 Problem solved

[glacial halo]

Lmao! Thats true. And zero people quit just because they think about the amount of time they had spent or will spend to build the troops (i guess).. and it might actually help igg to solve the dead kingdom problem.

Were you replying to my suggestion Guy?

[supple radish]

Guy, I don't feel comfortable replying here given the way I was treated. I will submit another feedback in the appropriate room. Thanks

[glacial halo]

I dont get it lol it points out to my suggestion but i didnt mention anything about leader or sheltering.

Oh nvm..

[dusty basin]

He didn’t reply to your suggestion

[glacial halo]

Yeah, nvm. My bad

[supple radish]

Not to mention that I reached out to a community to discuss and find solutions together rather than being silent and having a selfish goa, given the $1000 I spent.

Goal*

It's too much

[dusty basin]

What did you spend $1000 for?
You could easily max pact 3 and 4 fam that give free gems every 3 days and increase trove limit, max that and you don’t have to worry about gems shortage to buy shield

[supple radish]

I made a choice to spend. Is that against the game rules? Is my comment against the server rules? Also I will submit a feedback towards what you said in the suggestion no chat room. Thanks.

I have different views. But I'm affraid to speak.

[dusty basin]

just giving solution to your problem

[supple radish]

I have different views

I'll post as agreed in #📑┊suggestions-no-chat

I don't want to be treated the ways I was again. I don't deserve this in game nor on this group.

[dusty basin]

hmm, okay

[vapid lodge]

Were you "silenced" for your suggestion, or were you "silenced" for your behavior towards others? Think about what Locutus said.

[supple radish]

I don't appreciate the way he treated me. I understand his position but I don't appreciate the way he treated me. As mentioned, I will refrain from making any more comments in here as my purpose was and is not to offend anyone or damage the business.

[ashen hamlet]

I don't appreciate the way you treated me. I don't appreciate the way you treated pretty much everyone in this channel.

[vapid lodge]

The bully doesn't like being bullied? ironic

[ashen hamlet]

I don't appreciate that you're now playing the victim after you got precisely what you asked for - that toxic behaviour is not tolerated and people are held accountable.

You were toxic. You were respectfully and politely asked to stop.
You said you wouldn't chat here again, yet here you are

Literally spends a week harassing everyone to push their agenda, gaslighting, bullying, twisting words. And doesn't appreciate getting what they asked for 😂🙄

It was so nice how everyone came out to chat for the first time in a week and there was lively, genuine discussion for a little while after one person who's been a bully all week said they would stop their behaviour.

[supple radish]

Poor handling of a situation, lack of emotional intelligence, integrity and impartiality when treating players is the main issue. This is my feedback.

And lack of care and humanity.

[ashen hamlet]

You lack care and humanity.

[supple radish]

You can kick me. I'm losing nothing

[ashen hamlet]

You made racist comments.

[supple radish]

I have it recorded where I explained what I meant.

[ashen hamlet]

You continually state that you're here recording everything, while provoking people yourself, hoping to get a reaction.

[supple radish]

I hope you do me a favor and kick me. I'm not losing anything. Good bye

[ashen hamlet]

Your issue is in game chat, kingdom chat. Report it to Live Support, use the in game reporting feature. If it's breaking laws, report to the police.
That's literally the end of it.
You've made your suggestion. Please stop harassing everyone here, who have never done anything to you and don't deserve this disrespectful treatment from you

This server - this discord - it's run by mods who actually manage to have an online gaming community that's remarkable respectful.
I commend them for that.

If you actually stepped out of your own agenda for a second and just enjoyed the company and discussions in all the channels here, you might find it's a nice place to be with helpful people and fun chats. No small thanks going to the mods who control that there's no bullying or hate speech tolerated.

[vapid lodge]

There's some toxicity in this server, but it's not because of bullying. It's because it's a competitive game. Advice is given to others when it's asked. Opinions are often discussed with facts backing them up. It's a pretty good Discord server compared to the behavior you may have experienced inside the game.

[supple radish]

Guy, I appreciate you trying but I don't agree and my purpose is and never was to argue. My feedback stays the same, there is little to no emotional intelligence nor any genuine concern involved when handling players on the official Discord channel. I appreciate you and the community manager trying to show me differently but as a result of my conversation with all of you, you have failed to make me see the good intentions. The recording and my feedback and my recordings from here and in game will go somewhere else. Directly at IGG. I do appreciate your intentions if they had any trace of helping a player experience a good game. Take care and good game if possible.

[vapid lodge]

Expecting IGG to watch hours of footage for a basic complaint is not something an average user would expect. I believe this could have just boiled down to a complaint of the lack of in-game moderators.

[mossy gust]

I'll be honest. This channel was one of my favourite ones on the server as I enjoy talking about the game and ways to improve. But Li has completely ruined it. Even blocking her doesn't stop others commenting about her instead of the suggestions.

Li is an obvious troll that doesn't care about the game or community. Who the fuck actually cares about what igg do outside the game. Everyone gave a clear solution to her issue... block people that annoy you. But I can clearly see that it's Li that's most likely instigating the problems.

Should be perma-banned for obvious trolling for what? 2 weeks now?

[vapid lodge]

#💬┊suggestions-discussion message

[mossy gust]

So banned?

[vapid lodge]

Double warned, and Li already said they would stop talking in this channel.

[mossy gust]

finally, it's over

[midnight turret]

#📑┊suggestions-no-chat message
welcome to the world of f2p

[glacial halo]

[amber sorrel]

Thanks for the support @mossy gust

[ornate cobalt]

Too bad I missed it

[fleet ember]

Ain’t no way someone asked for t6

T5 was legit a meme long time ago and now it’s our reality.

Don’t advocate for t6, even if it’s a joke, IGG may take it seriously

[fleet ember]

T10? No I’ll double down, we should go for t20.

[stable plaza]

Might as well send IGG all your assets

[glacial halo]

Then someone need to suggest no t6 whatsoever

[sage trout]

t6
at least give us orange heroes first lol

[shadow vale]

😁