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yep
not usuly I won first dn when have 361% eith no reingorce t5 just need search when 80/10/10 in dn
Mix nest.
Check frontline. Go Inf blast. Then send counter to whatever the front is.
If in Range; then should win or need better stats. If it's in cav or Inf then send Cav at it.
INF KILL RANGR
RANGE KILL CAV
CAV KILL INF
dn6 who have 350%attk can win eazy 26 or 27 ess
Dn6 is not easy. 350 can't win unless it's single type which is rare.
Depends a lot more on familiars.
look where 90% one trop inside
No, it won't be easy, cuz first u need to find perfect dn, so should be good frontline
Also u need max counter research
Ess27 is little bit harder so it's possible that u will lose even if u counter frontline
Or that's gonna be very small win
I win before without max counter research and been have about 345% att always look dn when have 200 300 2m 0r 3m then eazy but need fill dn
I don't belive, u told something other earlier lol
i used to get lvl 27 ess with one single t3 range ,i wonder how much research my guild leader has done to win on lvl 6 nest
U mean full t3 against d6?
he used to send t4 and t4 reinforce,i don't have t4 unlocked yet ,so just sent t3 * 1 for rally ,no defeat but every time he hit dn 6 with range rather than other type
smart t5 will hunt t3 and send them to death
better try t2 or t1 instead of sending full t3 on lvl 6 š¤£
So about 250k t3, am i right?
full reinf of 2.3 M with just 100 slots available to fill at end
with more t3 we can win but reinf of t5 should be so high and lead should have decent stats and I guess 5 slots of fam also necessary when going on dn6 with 1 reinf of 250k t3
no t3 full t4
t4 reinf should be more , that's it
I don't know newer go on dn6 with t3 lol
I no have t3
dn6 with full t3 will be death
scout itself shows dangerous lineup in it infront of t3
1 M of marksman ,1 M of other t5 type ,400k each of t4 troop type ,enough for death
How manny you best attk stats?
i am not a dn rally lead
I wanted to learn how my guild lead got good wins from dn6 but he never used to say anything, just a greasy guild leader tbh ,sets 10 min or 1 hour dn6 and vanish
Eazy lead lol range kill cav,cav kill inf,inf kill rang
lvl 5 i can win with good reinf but lvl 6 is so much complex for only t4 guy with no much decent gear
haha unless you get stamped you won't understand it's complexity
guess this
than is so hard hhh
For dn6 the lowest atk I saw was 480 he had okay familiar, in my guild we do plenty of dn6. But I mainly do dn5. So I have asked and they said dn6 mainly depends on your familiar.
wow
I won dn6 with trash familiars
400+ stats /counter research and a good dn
"a good dn"
High in 1 type of troops
zombie no. 105
Cav in range wedge
:pepecringe:

Siege!
I'd personally do inf with buffers in rng wedge. If you lose then at least you know its formation
Can try, it's only a Darknest so not like you are losing anything and you may get lucky.
Tbh them mix darknests are a pain. I normally just avoid them
Okay I'll try cav blast in which format??
Inf wedge, with inf and rng buffers as cav sucks against walls on dns
I'll try it
Good luck 

Won bro @meager current ..with cav phalnax with cav and range troops
I saw people get 50% army size boosts and it drops only from specific dark ess lvl or that's random?
E26 and above

i'd just walk away and try a different one ngl. if i had to do it, i'd cav with buffers in inf wedge
What is better?
what is better for Infantry Blast?
Option A: Gryphon, Gemming Gremlin, Tempestite, and Mole Shamman or
Option B: Gryphon, Gemming Gremlin, Engineer, and Mole Shamman?
Composition pls.
Full infantry
Can you share here what heroes you used
You have to put 4 inf heroes and 1 army atk heroes
Replace goblin by soul forger or sea squire
And try dns with at least 4/5 gold heroes
Ok got it . Thanks.
When is it important to have the set on when you attack a dark, before creating/joining the rally or before hitting the dark?
Before hitting. Most put speed gear on Before they march so troops get there quicker. Then once marching, switch to their war gear
If I am just joining a rally I guess is pointless to switch to speed gear right?
Yea, only rally lead gear counts.
If you're a bit far away from lead then still put speed gear on if you might be late before rally marches as common courtesy to not delay others
And right before they join the rally I will switch to war gear, but after that do I still need to hold the war gear when they arrive at dark?
Or is it enough to hold it until they join the rally
To make it simple
-
as rally lead
1.1) before March takes off, use speed gear
1.2) once March is walking, put relevant war gear -
As filler to the rally
2.1) Before sending troops to rally, put speed gear on. Once they are marching you can switch to whichever gear you want. Note, if you aren't in speed gear when the darknest is over, then they will return slower
Alr just to make sure, after the troops are in the rally it matters only the gear the leader uses?
Correct
Ty a lot
Any idea why I'm losing it's just a e26. I should've won with 1.8
I have counter research
Watch vid, maybe your buffers dying too quick and cav taking a while to break wall?
1 sec to break wall
that is odd however, the dn fams are pretty good tbh. Maybe the case that it's fam difference. You'd probably win with full and in fury
Yeah I also thought about that.
Try cav phal pure cav.
It's gone on that day reset can't try
Oh,, well if I see a dn in inf phal. I go cav phal no buffers.
Being in rng phal will give the opponent rng troops a few seconds to hit your cav. Mostly it works with cav phal
Whats the correct way to attack this ?
Inf blast
Yes but what else which formation and do u need a little range too? Like 5%?
Na full inf just 100 range and cav for buffers. You can use range wedge or inf phalanx
Cav blast
Ok, thanks
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How would you hit this
cav blast
Skip that
What does blast mean ?
Full 1 type of troop
Thanks
Hi all. I'm trying to rally almost evenly mixed ess 28 nest. It's in an infantry wedge. How should I go? I tried going cav in range wedge and failed.
But it was very close.
Try same in range phal
Thanks, bro!
Hi there, we won this one with range blast in range wedge, nest was in range phal and noticed afterwards that 1 guy sent 6000 inf by mistake. We are wondering why the inf didn't get killed?
Depends on lineup and u had range wedge so range is at the front and dies first
The video shows that our Inf ran through kav to their range while our range went back, if that makes sense. š¤£Or should we not rely on the video to much
You can start by upgrading your cavalry heroes to golden,
Then gears and etc
Put some jewels there and bam
600% blast
Whatās up
don't take out upcoming update it will destroy the 19+ tasks in gf, now it will be even more harder to find 19+ dns
please don't introduce the update!!!
1 dn goes another dn comes you never run out of them.
It's ok, you won't get essence anyways because 10 people will automatically fill the DN and you won't fit
lol that's also one more problem
but it's mostly mix, new dns always gets harder
Probably you can set off that thing and send manually 1 troop
How to defeat this DN6?
You can't let someone else do if the dn was in inf phal you should've won
Search for dn that has just 1 type high
I would use Range Wedgeā¦send 50k of Cav and 50k of Rangeā¦rest Infantryā¦donāt know what your inf. attack isā¦I win most DN 6 even when counteredā¦but all my attack is over 950ā¦so that plays a differenceā¦also if you have max P5 familiars, use themā¦Good luck!
I don't have P5 fam
how to make the auto join
thank u
What's the best reward from dn5 ess?
50% atk boost? If so then which ess level is best to get it?
Ess26...maybe
I think their best reward is 50% size boost not atk boost

I do love the new auto join, but I really do hope they soon give us the limit troop size and limit troop level switch.
Sometimes it would be nice to just join with a single t1 troop , instead of mighty full t5 š
And a selector to avoid joining troops that walk longer than 1, 5,10,15, 20 min. Would be nice too 8-)
It would allow you to limit auto join troops to your direct neighbors (if you are far out of hive with a low number of friends š )
Yeah because dn6s get hard because it's filled with random t3 (like mine) so we get close instances like this
But for lower players like me it's great just destroy lvl 4s like it's nothing
Cool feature tbh
1 min is too short, doesnāt give enough time for online people to join
Ask the rally lead to send them back
It's a lot of trouble cause it continues to auto fill, can't the time be pushes to 3 min
Why did defeat?
Stats
316%

That's y defeat
Show your heroes used in and do you have counter research?
@cedar rapids check pm:)
Ugh, is there any way to avoid the auto-join DN from filling DNās????
It is a nightmare this Guild Fest. People need to join, and as soon as we kick one, another will join and fill.
They have 1min before auto-join people are joining
Wayyy too quick
I will kick to make room, and go to switch and join on my other account and itās full. Itās very annoying lol
Then join after starting
It doesnāt leave enough time
Just join it before it happens, I never had a problem with it
Yeah idk why your fighting a dn5 or 6 those stats are for like dn4
Also for the people complaining 1 min is too fast, your just hella slow in general
I have multiple accounts
Itās impossible to join more than 1 in under a minute
I'm wondering. Does rallying darknest reflect how wonder battles happen? I've been testing comps on darknests to see what works well against what. Are these result also going to teflect how forts and base fight will be?
No lol wall changes everything
Try in arena
Just don't allow ppl in ur guild to use that feature
Thatās what weāve been trying to enforce now lol
What formation to use if the dn is in range wedge?
Range wedge
Do this one with range
Okay thnx
Range wedge with range right?
@spare bay hey buddy i can't dm you bot got glitch
An easy win for a t3 player 80m might level 58 to easy
Itās not really āeasyā but rather that your gear is good enough to beat level 4 darknest
You donāt get good in the game, no skill involved
Just cash
packs and bundles

Range
Was it easy? š¤£
Hello everyone, do you think that the darknest are more difficult today?
No
nah
Add more t5. The Darknest t5 is too many for u to handle. Plus that Darknest fam is 5 slots
All dn6 r 5slots rnt they?
So tier differences fkng it up
My cav is 500, max gobil, also lost by 1% in another dn
It may affected by the cav front too actually
Was rng phal against cav wedge
Try hit it range next
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I'm also learning how to defeat dn6 too cuz I'm still lacking
Yeah. Just try find other dn or add more army hp/def
I have usually found one troop heavy 170-230mish ess 27 DN6s to be easy. Most of the time you are able to counter the majority troops
Also Cyrus, get more fam with debuffs. They usually cheap ones
I have a question for someone who has had a lot of experience in the game
I sent a cav blast without talents which for me is only 380% attack and I got a higher damage that my inf with talents which is 500% attack but my cav did more damage, and keep in mind these are all level 5 nests
This is the cav reports
And this is my infantry report
Why is it lower when I have more inf attack than cav?
Andy familiars are inf based they lower enemy cav and range HP by 40% and Increase my inf attack by 15% so I know it's not them, but this is confusing me, can someone help debunk this
Need to share the details of each report. What the DN had and what you sent
You are countering the darknest with those cav hits but not with the inf hits
The anti darknest you can only see the lineup if you raily it
Is there any dark nest simulator that can calculate battle outcome?
Yes they call it experience
is there any online tool to calculate all this?
If people say
I need DN19+
Does they mean i need darknest lvl 19+ essence?
Yes
Thanks
Finnaly, defeated 2 d6 with inf without touching rng;D
Those random t3/2 š„²
Also congrats, well doneš
Yea, that's cuz of auto join darknests
What's the gear of a dn ?
full mythic champ + 12 astar
How to win this DN lvl6? Range Atk around 510%
We tried it first with less buffer
Use formation range phalanx
Thanks. One follow up question : is there an explanation I can give my guild mate. With range ph. the troops come out before breaking the wall? Or only if we skip the buffers? But doesnt that mean we would also have more from our troops killed?
Not sure if I understood your question, but they should not come out if you had buffer. What I don't understand is your first report. How come it hits the enemy's inf instead of cav?
Exactly that is what we dont understand either. The wall took a second to drop. And inf came full on. And no kav was killed
Are you referring to the first report when you used cav wedge?
To the attached. We used cav wedge for both attempts and lost. Too bad we could not try the range phalanx since DN was gone
Do you remember how much might does the dn have?
No but the wall had over 12.4mil hp
The other guy's comment of trying range ph is right to me. It should guarantee contact range with their cav. Wedge format always has strange behaviors
I don't know if you noticed, but if dn might is very low such as 150m, it will be much more difficult than others with higher might
Generally I prefer higher might dn
Another finding is that inf dn( when you use inf to counter, enemy has range as main) is the most difficult one. Much lower success rate than the other two
Really? I didn't know that. I was looking for low might DNs. We only managed a few lvl6, since my guild is only now starting T5. I will check that out with going for higher might
But still need answer on why to use range phalanx instead of cav wedge, since I thought with using cav wedge buffers are infront and range has a bit more time before getting attacked.
Ya, I noticed that when I started to rally for the guild when we were just doing dn3. Most people will pick the ones with less enemies but actually they are more difficult. Almost like they get more buff. Also keep in mind that whether you win or lose depends on the troops lost during the fight between two parties. When the enemy has large troops with the same might meaning individuals are weaker and they will die more. Same rule to apply, you should pick the ones with t4 in it instead of pure t5
Gotcha
Two reasons, one is to enable your heros when you have buffer, two is to disable enemy from rushing out when your only troops is range. They will change to inf ph in that case
I found that out when we were doing dn4 when they have only two types
If you send only range to fight dn with range+cav, it will guarantee to counter, but if someone sends you 1 t1 cav, you might hit their range instead
I have seen 1 t1 cav screwing up a dn rally
Exactly looking at the video it seems the enemy switched to inf phalanx. So I guess our buffer died to early due to wall taking to long to drop.
I will try that with 1t1
Yes cav wedge when you have range will put your buffer at front line. Unless you have more that is enough to hold till the wall is broken, they will switch to inf ph
If you had range ph, range wedge or even inf wedge, it would work
Thanks so much.
Np
Personally I always hit range with inf wedge that seems to work best for me before I always hit cav wedge or cav phal
The buffers died before the wall was broken so enemy (darknest) troops came out. And when troops come out the phalanx turns into inf phalanx that counters range
Thanks
I would go first with cav
If inf isn't front then counter it
And if you counter and still lose then find another dn
I would say send range
Noodle hit 
Close call. Should have booted the t3 and t2 but my guild member needed 19+ ess for gf š

yo! I can eventually beat dn without luck!
I beat dn3 blind 
XD
everyone starts somewhere
without gears or talents 
oh, so you won without anything?
yup, blind
Does 866 work on dn too?
Probably not because dns have walls
Or you need to be a proper lead to do that
ah, crap
so it doesn't matter whether there's a wall or not?
as a lead you would want the targets wall not to be broken
but as a trap you would always want your wall to be broken before taking mix rally
well, from what I see, some people send a march before the rally marches to break the wall š
ohh
so if they don't use range phal, then you don't want to break the walls?
or online
i have 50% carps to boozle
i see. inf blasts hit hard, right?
Hi
i see, i see...
Inf wedge counters range doesn't it
That's normal
bro doesnt know how range rallies without buffers work 
try with & without buffers you'll know yourself
I know very well when cav march out and range will hit all cav. But that's still normal
Nothing crazy
i didn't know that until a few months ago 
but tbf I was still like 200m might and more a noob than I am today
I was 6 months in game when someone told me that trick. Normally use for dns with range and cav only
my first leader was basically a noob. and didn't teach me the important stuff
only the basics (equivalent to breathing, eating and shitting)
do 208 rallies work on mixed dn as well?
Sometimes
Target with no range and inf front. (Dn5)
Oh, so basically wherever you use a normal cav blast?
Yeah
Normally it's used in wonders when enemy has a low range comp like 424,947
ohh, i see
Gonna look out for that next da ^^
ohh
@nocturne dock
Yea I'm seeing
Which troop type is front ??
Don't worry that's happens
Blind rally went well š
Get gud
you mean I'm a nub?
i blame that I didn't have any t5 seige in my rally
Only send siege rallyās
Only lv3
gotta work myself up XD
t3 is a buffer?
Nah, my stats are decent enough for me to have some t3 in the rally
Wanna give my non t4 members some good essence as well
Fml, just like my first time leading rallies in da. Close but not close enough š„²
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where do i see what formation for what darknest
Depends on darknests front
i remember seeing a pinned message like
like if gryphon is leader inf wedge or something idk exactly
but i remember seeing one
That depends on darknests comp and formation
oh i see
Send a comp I'll tell you then
Can I do darknest 6 I have 750/800 %
No you need 800+
You win a dn 6 using right troops while having 550+ stats don't brag
Yes. I already can do dn 6 with 600 cav blast
Try and see
How many years to open T5
27
4-5 f2p
69
@dawn schooner
just wanted to share that info with him
@placid flare @boreal echo @dawn schooner why did i lose ;-;
Should i add talents?
Or cav
More t3 , show gear 
Send cav 
No cant š gib speedups me up my hall
Why do you waste gems lol
93.8k left 
Sent cav lost more badly š„¹
Battle hall! And 11k in trove
Your gear made you lose ig 
I did not put full cav gear 0.0 should i do full cav?
Why people sent inf also
Bcs i said lets do a tiny bit of cav with inf š
Maybe i should setup talents but too lazy for that š„¹
Change lead or show me your cav gear 
Oki
Change lead to what
I have firewall and bee helmet but but they are noy even green also lvl problems
Say other guy to rally,you are getting more t3 and also not complete gear due to - lvl 60
Wut

Why can't i just go out and burn noobs like me
And end up losing leader
Whats the use of the leader that cant win a dn4

But there's use of your brain
Get better 
Die 
No
Why
Why not 
Okay š„¹
Good

Inf on inf

Gear made it go waste
Inf targets suck if you have weak inf stats
Range inside counters cav
Inf should be better but they sent more t3 and she has not so good stats 
Yeah, that's why inf targets with inf inside the dn suck
Range targets with only cav and range inside are goated. (As long as you have enough range HP that is)
I do range nests 
Bad heroes
Ye range nests are nice
Not leveled up ;-;
Range + cav stuff are beautiful 
Oath keeper isn't leveled up?
It's fine
You'll get there someday

š
Not medaled up
Do smaller nests or ask other person to do nests until you become strong 
I didnt even put talents š„¹
Well, some inf stats are better than higher cav stats in an inf rally š
Waste of gems
I stay on Range talents and throw any damn nest ,not gonna blame talents for a nest defeat
Range hp or attack š„¹
Imagine using talent for nest
range atk is important but you'll also need hp for those targets
1k isn't a thing after this creepy update
Boring
Guild things
jewel chests are better
Use gems everytime it makes interesting š
Yup
i basically sit in cav talents all day XD
š
Idk i am dumb
Learn it 
No u r not
Rose knight give army atk
Also if u send 5 inf hero, then one wont do anything, just like rose here
well, i always use buffers so i can use bombin and/or rose (if no better heroes available) and don't have to worry whether or not their army atk buff applies or not
so with a few buffers, their army buffs will apply ^^
It will work even without buffer
eh? I've been told that you need at least 1 cav troop for rose's buffs to be applied
Why ;-;
Should i focus on rally heroes and not colloseum bcs 20 medals away from blue prima
Cuz max 4 heroes of the same troop type can fight
They will just give boost, so rose knight 20army atk
i focused on wall heroes first
but demon slayer and rose are good for colo as well
So even if i go inf i should add cav heroes
inf heroes give more inf atk when gold than rose with her army atk
Um should i make wall heroes all blue first and then purple or demon slayer purple
It's not like that

i made rose and bombin gold first
Hi born and raised by the game

Oh my goblin is green
well, army atk is imo (not a pro) pretty beneficial for mixed troops
Focus on eco heroes
Then switch to war hero
I'd rather focus on my turf development than dn which can be done by other members
Eco heroes like trickster ?
Economy hero*
Yes like trickster and scarlet
whoa, that makes sense.
Wait, tbf I was building a solo trap from the beginning...
and watcher 

listen to alok
Research and building speed don't slowing upgrading heroes lol
One solo trap came in our kingdom capped two leads and migrated
Lol
-enters
-traps
-refuses to elaborate
-leaves
Yup XD
When I was actively playing game.
I had a mini rally trap/ solo trap/ shelter trap/ gryphon trap/ rally party trap lol
Now all acc are dead


Simply unretire ;-;
No
š„¹š„¹š„¹
Get gud
Future rally lead š
Can I rally this with inf and/or range?
@dawn schooner
I don't know,I m nub 

i meant a range blast
Less cav
,I guess you will face range vs inf 
Tu kill cav and then inf arrives before range ,I m confused of this sus nests
@autumn vector
Wakey wakey, eggs and bakey
What If t5 cav counters your inf 
I would say if u lose bcs rng isn't front then find another
meh, should be fine XD
had way worse cav targets
Mixed d6 are easier than inf d6
Best are with 5-6m troops
I am cooking, I don't know @boreal echo 
They are easy
Send me da food
M bad cook 
idc. food is food. better than plain bread

inf
Cheers
Inf with buffers in range wedge
10-4
10-4?
shouldn't have used buffers
Full range 
Same type of nest ,this time I gave surprise by killing cav 
you sent a range blast and it was still range on range?
Yos
conter vs no counter 
wtf is wrong with the color on the right?
it looks more dirty-ish or something like that
next nest
why is the red not the same as the left one?
@dawn schooner Do cav dn rallies. They are more fun than range rallies
reason for blue screen @boreal echo
left one wasn't nice tho :p
It gave me surprise 
copium

Damn, i wish you'd hug me like that 

when rallying with inf against a high hp wall, do you go cav phal/range wedge when you send buffers? or should you go range phal/cav wedge?
Cause how I see it, the buffers die before the inf can even touch the wall
i use inf phalanx for inf blast
even with buffers?
cause I would have said cav wedge or range phal
yeah
ok thanks ^^
whatās generally the needed atk % for dn6? I want to try some range dn6 when I get gryphon
familiars: Trickstar, Magnus, (gryphon) and gnome
I've won many dns at 400 stats but also lost at 600 xD
You can try running easy dns
Ess26 is pretty easy at 400 stats
You need more at 27 or 28 ess
Not everyone has your stats tho...
just get stats
š¤Æ
the auto join sends only 1 troop type
Nicely done
I think i can win d6 without leader, but with good lineup xD
XD
T5 helps a lot in dn6
What lineup of u tried this?
Ice forgotten how to play. Haven't played for a year mate. Lol
I'll get the report
I can tell lol
I'll try that m8 just like seeing other views lol
There's the report ^
If cav didn't find another dn
U have too low stats then
I've taken on a level 5 with 5 Fams and 5 heros. And I have 3 Fams spots. So don't know whats up with this one. Unless I'm extremely dumb š¤£
Ahhh . I don't remember a report like this in K2days. The OG days š¤£
Hate these guys with t3s
Rather use t2s š¤£
Alright mate , cheers honestly on the help m8
Alright mate, I'll do it now and let you know if successful š
And was it successful?
Infantry
Ah, i just now noticed he used wrong heroes too
Also i don't think he lost earlier just bcs of 45k t3
That's not the reason he had 1,4m loss and dn just 300k
Range blast it
Use buffers tho
Cav blast will be better 
Why would you send range on that??
Why not ,guess if it has cav running fast 
I guess they tried it first but lost cause it was cav on cav
Probably trying to counter the cav
Yh but the inf will counter the range especially that it even has more inf than cav so I don't rly get why he would want to counter cav??
I guess they hope to kill off the cav before the inf deals too much damage
That might be worth sending range
Range blast?
Some buffers would be nice
Why not there then ? 
Cause 700k inf
Would counter your range
It would've been better to send cav, cav counters inf and cav fights cav, better than range counters cav and inf counters your range
I hope ppl can understand what I meant 
Be a man and go cav
Be a legend and go siege

š
Did I miss something? Only explanation is that his gear was weak af or he sent the wrong formation??
No, just funny imo
What does imo stand for?
In my opinion
Got it 
Maybe go range blast and send like 100k cav? @dawn schooner
Not a pro but that sounds logical to my small brain
When there's less fill ,I am allowing t3 from 1d 18h 32 mins 
For what
You also remember time

cav should hopefully make the range live long enough
4 cav t4 from lead + 2 t4 cav reinf
Like I said, not pro, it's just what sounded logical to me XD
100k way too much
Blasts are the strongest, send like 1k cav as buffers
T3 drops the morale by a lot
Should I be able to clear any dark 5 with the right formation and counter?
You should
My stats weren't much better when I did dn 5
XD
Inf Blast with 500 each buffers and range Wedge, would that work?
.
2 typed dn are better for the start
and avoid inf dn. inf rallies suck with low statsš
it's most often inf on inf and you'll lose due to lower stats
Cav blast?
With buffers and Inf Wedge?
yes
yes
maybe replace sage for bombin?
sage only gives cav def what I find useless
And what does bombin give?
20% army atk
I personally prefer that over def
Next time 
5 ppl joined with full T5, these guys ain't scared of losing T5 cause I have no idea what I am doing 
XD
probably auto join
Yup
5 ppl full T5, 2 full T4
Got 2m troops hopefully can do it
1504515964 my favourite hero is Demon slayer
imagine you don't win 
good for you
I just joined this guild I am definetly getting kicked 
zombie no. 294
š
The troops are moving to the darkness I am scared
good luck š«”
I forgot to mention I don't have my counters finished 
Btw are ppl changing leaders when going for different types of blasts?
well, I know that some rally leads do
nice hit for cav on cav imo
i don't do it tho XD
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it was cav on cav tho?
yes, but the hit was cav on cav
Ok
meaning your cav hit the enemy cav
also, life hack: don't forget to switch your gear from speed gear
Yh I know
@plain cedar
Gonna attack with cav blast with 500 buffers, any opinions?
In inf wedge
And that dark should be easier than this one right?
This one is easier
Send range, 1 cav (I assume you don't have watcher at Max, so you can use rose knight as army atk hero) in cav wedge formation
Why is it easier tho?
You can manipulate that dn to get countered
In inf and range dn, it's upto luck if you're countering or being countered
Whose
This one is hard
Because if you're lucky enough to counter the dn.
After all range gets wiped out, you still have to kill inf.
I don't do these types of dn cause my inf stats are low and can't win easily lol
Failed it..

Should've send inf???
Yeah
Just send inf with buffers in inf phal
You can win you got good amount of t5
Would go for range right?
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350% is good for dn5
Yes you can go for range too
And what kind of darkness should I look for? Like the easier ones cause my stats ain't that good tbh
Should I go for something else?
I mean range on range and range on cav that should be good right?
I look for cav and inf
Range and cav
Because I don't like running inf dn, I can win them but they're slow af lol
You can manipulate the dn to get countered
It will be range on cav
Easy win
Wdym manipulate the dn?
If you send range and all your decoys die and the wall is still standing
Defending troops will rush out in inf phal formation (range will be on wall)
Using that can you manipulate cav and range dn
Cavs will run out, after range Destroy the wall
Range will re-target cavs
That's confusing but I think I understand 80% of it
I have watcher so I use this-
- full range and 1 inf (using watcher as my leader) in inf wedge
Dn kill my inf and the cav rushes out. Then range Destroys the wall and then target dn's cav
Just use the formation I'm telling on that range dn
Then watch the battle lol
You'll understand the mechanics
Got rose and goblin at gold?
Okay
Give me few minutes
I'll send screenshot
Ty
@plain cedar
Do I put some buffers?
And normally how many buffers should I go for?
In range cav dn
You don't have to put buffers
Just send 1 cav (assuming you have rose as leader) in cav phal
It varies to be honest
I like 500 buffer/decoys and 1k t2 siege
Why siege?
People like to send 4 decoys and 4 siege
And some also like 1k decoys and 1k siege
Some even send 5k decoys
And how does 4 decoys help?
For walk back.
Here's an example - previous kvk I soloed a fort, lost. Walkbacked with siege lol else I would have lost my lead
My head gonna explode..
Main troops reach near wall before all your decoys die
Wdym walkbacked with siege?
Siege are all the way at back
If your enemy doesn't have siege, your siege will be Targeted last but if your morale drops to 0% before siege gets destroyed you'll walkback
Or if enemy can't kill your siege under 45 seconds since battle started you'll get walkback
And if you walk back your leader also walks back?
Tbh I never knew how the leader capture works when you attack
Yes
@plain cedar this is from DA
They couldn't capture me cause my siege walkbacked lol
4 sieges walked back???
Yes
Wow
Although it doesn't work everytime
You can get capture even if you send siege
So 1k decoy (500/500 of the other 2 types) and 1k t2 sieges if you attack players?
I've lost my leader many times even if I sent siege
Yes that's what I use
And it works well for me
And why exactly you don't send buffers on range cav dn?
Can you start that dn?
Use this formation
Full range, 1 cav (use rose in your March) in cavalry phalanx.
After the dn hits watch the battle video and make sure nobody else send anything other than range.
You'll understand manipulation mechanics
I'll explain it here too-
Send 1 cav
Like 1 cav troop?
Yes
Send them back lol
That's sad ;_;
Most ppl auto join lol
Anyway I'm writing the mechanics
You try to understand here
When you send range with 1 decoy and hit the target, your decoys die first (assuming your decoy is all the way in front)
Once your decoy is dead, enemy troops will rush out in inf phal formation only range will stay on the wall.
Once your range Destroys the wall, you will target enemy cavs (assuming enemy only have cav and range)
Doesn't matter if enemy was in range phal or cav phal
They always rush out in inf phal once your decoy is dead only when you're sending range
Also it works only if you send range and 1 decoy
If you break wall before your decoy die manipulation mechanism won't work
Well you can switch to cav wedge and hope both decoy die before wall goes down
But I'd rather want people to just send me 1 range lol
Alr, btw did watch the battle and now I realise what you meant, thank you 
not really
auto join only sends the troop you have most in your rally
Oh yh, then I guess I have some non humans in my guild 

Shh nobody needs to know 

Do I go Cav with Inf Wedge?
@placid flare sorry for ping I need an answer quick already created the rally
Yes @plain cedar
ty
Btw how many stats should I have for weaker dn6?
I won my first dn at 450ish%
Alr, good to have an idea in mind
I'll be offline for an hour or so
Gtg somewhere
Alr
you won?
When you come back pls answer, should I have gone range?
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Ohh, because the dn mostly had cav inside
Well mainly cav on cav
well, as long as you can win cav on cav dn 5, there's no need to worry i guess š
Range wedge
Why would you go range on inf and cav dn lol
Just send cav and you can counter inf
Alr
Is there a tell tell sign on just looking at the heroes and fams on wall in a dn6 on what the front would be?
Nope, it's random
For range dns yes
i rally dn1
I rally dn4

I rally dn 1... with siege š
What's wrong here? š
cav on cav
you probably have weaker cav stats than that darknest, which is why you probably lost
sht, u r from this stupid guild and kd?
I counter my self and win on dn3 easily š
What's wrong here? I was the lead š
nah, I mean the guild and kd
Oh š
ph was the last guild I was in in 1310
Oh š
wdym?
Hi there. When did you leave KD?
Maybe I don't know you in-game either when we were there
I don't know, about 2 or 3 months
I was known in this guild with cutie boy or yahia
Must be before I joined. I joined in late August
meow still the lead?
Yeah. Still Meow
I know, but he is a farmer
does he know the formations or still stupid atk with anything?
I'm not sure. But he just got capped by a 92m trap
That guy defended twice before got hit by 500k march
niga don't know a lot about the game
bro, he didn't want to open phalamx before opening t4
I am not surprisd from gettin cappd by 92m trap
he should had atkd cav at least for the inf
He didn't even scout and just attack
Another report
I mean, WHO WOULD SEND A FULL T5 MARCH SOLO? AND TRICKSTER???
probably just pressed on quick select heroes
Yes. Probably
@boreal echo
@boreal echo he is 1.2b now
yes?
i got familiar slot 4 before I did counters XD
I mean the reply
some peeps got other priorities
what about it?
but I mean, u already atk and go in wow and don't want phalanx?
he is 1.2b and got cappd by a trap 92m
Both attacks to me were all in inf phal
probably at a point where he's strong enough to stick with inf phal XD
You understand how solo traps work, right?
nah, his rallys was fuckd
yeah, but not to tht a solo trap 92m cap 1.2b
very weird then
š
I'm unlocking T4 soon
he is a farmer and most of the kd know tht he is a farmer
he just have so much money
Oh lol. We're trying to zero him
He only has around 16m troops
u need t4 with good gears
@iron jasper
and honestly ur guild is a farmer and tht no one have t3 yet is the prove
I win dn 3 very easily while I am countering my self
like I am attacking range dn with inf and win so easy
how are you countering yourself? 
ohh, well, it's always good to know how to counter troops
Now try with dn 4
nah, dn 4 still a bit hard for me
Lol. We all have T3s. It's quite easy.
I'm close to T4
doesn't your guild have a ton of t4 and t5?
maybe with talents I can win dn4 easily
you can't win just by countering it?
my stats not this strong yet
what are your blast stats?
260 without talents
Should be good enough wym XD
Ess 15 win from 4 days ago
cav blast?
since I joind this guild all of them was with t3 except some friends who migrated too
No. Ranged
easy ones yeah
why you go range phal then? 
nice win tho
mix and 3m two types can't win
Thanks
wym two types? It's easier to rally with blasts š
I am new any one can give me a tip
the 2 types with 3m troops hard for me
don't do defense research (wall research)
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Mean
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