👾┊familiars

[fickle crane]

Do you have The bee maxed

Chu

[silk elk]

Isn't this the familiar discussion board

[quartz relic]

No

Not even close

[lucid rampart]

Isn't this the familiar discussion board
Yes. Did you have a question about them?

[quartz relic]

Many p2p aren’t even close either

[fickle crane]

If someone does just check it

[quartz relic]

[fickle crane]

If it gives kills

[quartz relic]

Qweeb

[lucid rampart]

What

[quartz relic]

You think this guy can get max bee f2p

In the next 2 years

[fickle crane]

Of course I can

[silk elk]

No like I was planning to answer questions

[lucid rampart]

Nah

[fickle crane]

2 years yes

[quartz relic]

I don’t think so either

But dream

[lucid rampart]

Let them dream

[quartz relic]

But yes the queen bee skill kills troops

You generally see the maxed accounts 11k with mythic champ using it in baron

You know, the people who spend over 100k

Maybe over 100k per month

[fickle crane]

Do you know The bargain store

You can get a chest

[quartz relic]

Bargain store is random

[fickle crane]

Called chest of pacts

[quartz relic]

Ah yes the chest

[fickle crane]

Not really

[quartz relic]

The drops suck

[fickle crane]

You should get 15 Queen bee runes

[quartz relic]

And plus even when you get the bee to elder

[fickle crane]

I Will not buy one

[quartz relic]

You are never maxing that skill f2p

[fickle crane]

And still max The bee

[quartz relic]

That skill is millions of xp to max

Vs like the 700k xp to max the smaller fams

[fickle crane]

Smiley chu 2 months

[silk elk]

The chests are how I have frostwing, bunny and Bee to adult

[fickle crane]

100k daily

[quartz relic]

Plus 70k gems to activate the skill once

[fickle crane]

Bruh

I Will spend millions of gems in tycoon

[quartz relic]

Enjoy f2p

[fickle crane]

I Will get hundreds of cores

[quartz relic]

You have to be trolling right

You seem knowledgeable

[fickle crane]

No

I am a stubborn

[quartz relic]

Ok

[fickle crane]

And I will do it

[quartz relic]

2months

I will come back

[fickle crane]

I will do it because you told me I can't

[quartz relic]

And if you don’t have it

Maxed

[lucid rampart]

Good luck

[silk elk]

It is worth saving gems and buying those chests - I actually agree

[quartz relic]

Completely

[fickle crane]

2 months for maxing The bee skill lmao

Kak I won't I Will do tycoon

[quartz relic]

2months

[fickle crane]

How much exp can it take

[quartz relic]

And if you don’t

[plain void]

But how will we know you didn’t buy a single pack to get it. Buying tycoon pack is off limits too

[fickle crane]

I am pure F2P

[quartz relic]

You pay me 100mil of each rss

And if you do max it completely

[fickle crane]

Oh dang it I foegot

[quartz relic]

I pay you 100mil of each rss

[fickle crane]

I won't get it in 2 years

[quartz relic]

Queen bee maxed

[fickle crane]

I attack a lot I use relocators

Gems...

[silk elk]

Tycoon costs a lot of gems, but yes if combined with hells is a good idea

[quartz relic]

So you have queen bee maxed f2p in 2 months ok? Deal?

[fickle crane]

No

I never said that

[quartz relic]

[fickle crane]

I said that I Will max The skill

[quartz relic]

Let’s go with 2 years

Oh ok

[fickle crane]

In 2 months

[quartz relic]

Skill maxed

The 3rd skill

Level 10

[silk elk]

You have to max it to max the skill

[fickle crane]

Without attacking I can do it in 3 years

[plain void]

The first skill doesn’t count Josket

[quartz relic]

Wait what

2 years or 3 moths

[fickle crane]

I have 250M kills

..

[quartz relic]

2 months

[fickle crane]

Need more

No

[quartz relic]

Queen bee 3rd skill maxed

Ok?

[fickle crane]

I said that I Will max The skill

[quartz relic]

Yes the skill

For queen bee

[fickle crane]

But let me get it to elder first

[quartz relic]

In 2 months

[fickle crane]

How much can it take

[quartz relic]

From today

[fickle crane]

Not from today

[quartz relic]

I think it will take you years

[plain void]

🍿

[quartz relic]

But you think 2 months so let’s see it

2 months from next week

[fickle crane]

2 months from The time when I Will get it to elder

So 3 years

[quartz relic]

I said years didn’t I

[lucid rampart]

Chu you should probably change the subject

[fickle crane]

You said years

These guys really think F2P are hopeless

[quartz relic]

Yes

They are

[fickle crane]

Lmfao

They are not

Yet

[quartz relic]

Been playing 1 year f2p

And igg will keep pushing p2p updates

[plain void]

I’ve been f2p for 1 week

[quartz relic]

Just because it means profit

F2p are hopeless

[fickle crane]

I Will buy a house and rent it

[quartz relic]

No getting around it

[lucid rampart]

I’ve been f2p for 1 week
I’m going on two weeks

[quartz relic]

Enjoy f2p

[plain void]

This is turning into the General conversation we had a few hours ago

[quartz relic]

Because this guy is either a noob, trolling, or p2p

[plain void]

All three

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

Drop the subject

[quartz relic]

New subject

Queen ign

[lucid rampart]

No

Absolutely not

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

[fickle crane]

First of all, I am not a noob

[plain void]

Familiar talk, I’d rather not get a warning. Lol

[fickle crane]

Second, I am not trolling

[quartz relic]

Yes let’s go general

[lucid rampart]

Yeah

[fickle crane]

Third, I am Bren Chong

[quartz relic]

Ok trolling

[fickle crane]

Only this time

[quartz relic]

That explains it

[fickle crane]

But you really don't know what tycoon can give you

[lucid rampart]

I definitely do

[quartz relic]

So do I

I roll it for halos

[lucid rampart]

Same

[fickle crane]

General

[quartz relic]

You don’t have 9 mythic cups qweeb?

[lucid rampart]

Shush

[pliant plank]

I just rolled a gold halo today

$20 gone

[quartz relic]

[ember axle]

How this works

[brisk sierra]

Yes

[quartz relic]

Yes

[lucid rampart]

How this works
Ask a more specific question if you want an answer please

[quartz geode]

Faimiar is a feature in the game to empety your wallet

empty*

[brisk sierra]

Not exactly

[quartz geode]

than why does it cost $5 for 5 pacts-_-

[brisk sierra]

No ones telling you to buy it tho

[quartz geode]

NotNever

[pliant plank]

Just roll it in tycoon

Cheaper, you get more, you get gems, you get items

[brisk sierra]

just be f2p

[pliant plank]

[sly niche]

What's is the best familiar to be contract

[coral basalt]

Contract?

[viscid pelican]

yes crazy

this is business

[coral basalt]

Selling fish is also a business

[carmine grail]

What is the most common use of familial?
Attack _defense construction research or generate resources???

[coral basalt]

All

Mainly attack def

Then some for the non attacking farmer stuff

[timber onyx]

why is snowbeast fam good in attacks

a guildie told me its a must when attacking with range only any clue why?

[brisk sierra]

read the army talent

[timber onyx]

yea i know but trickstar + bee + blackwing + gryphon is standard 4

5th fam replace it with maggot or pyris (when theres no fodders) instead of snow beast

wont it be better in terms of offensive

[brisk sierra]

most would use snowbeast over pyris

maggot is decent

[timber onyx]

its not like snowbeast shield prevents my ldr getting capped or anything

theres no offensive stats on it at all

[coral basalt]

Bruh

Snow beast is hella good for attacking

It gives a shield to 7% of ur entire range March if 12% falls

Means ur troops last longer

And do more damage

Everything attack isn’t offensive stats there’s a lot of stuff which may not look like offensive stats but is op

[quartz relic]

what is the most efficient pact to merge for fragments

[viscid pelican]

yes

[quartz relic]

thanks dokke

i will now merge pact yes

[pliant plank]

pact 4

[fickle crane]

I ma crazy that is do True

[visual sluice]

is tempestite and aquris good familiars on wall?

I am f2p

orbs are limited for me..please..

or shall I wait for pact 4 familiars?

[quartz relic]

pact 4 f2p will take a while

aquiris is good on the wall

also try to get weevil on the wall

[hollow idol]

Explain familiar damage

[keen blade]

idk which familiars is good to use gold orbs on

[visual sluice]

is tempestite good to keep it on wall.

I have 3 slots..

thinking to keep gryphon, aquris and tempestite

[brisk sierra]

if you're f2p have fun getting gryphon up

[silk elk]

Gryphon is worth doing
Takes a while but unless you spend a very long time getting pact 4 he has a good attack and is the only one below pact 4 you can use the golden orbs on

The stacking attack pact 3 familiars are good but take a lot of orbs

[tame blade]

is tempestite good to keep it on wall.
@visual sluice
Familiars that rely on having a 10% of troops to die before doing anything are generally not good in defense.

[visual sluice]

so please tell which familiars are good bro..

[tame blade]

Aquirius, weevil

[visual sluice]

I am f2p...orbs are limited..

I have 3 slots now.

[tame blade]

It is not terrible to do the 15% atk fams or the -40% hp fams, each of those cost 100 to max i think?

[visual sluice]

pyris gryphon and

[tame blade]

So over time you should be able to get then enough from cargo and event rewards

[visual sluice]

you saying to goblin gemming and trickster

[tame blade]

Engineer, gnome, yeti

They arent ideal but work in all situations and are the cheapest

Aquirius and weevil are more expensive but better

Jaziek, magmalord, terraspike for -40% are really effective, but being attacked by a blast means only 1 of the 3 will be useful in any given defense

[visual sluice]

no bro..

[tame blade]

you saying to goblin gemming and trickster

Only good in attacks

Thought you were asking about defense

no bro..

Alright then go pyris gryphon tempestite. Also lmk your coords

[brisk sierra]

400 each i think

i lied

200 each

[bleak crescent]

How much those P2P familiars affect a solo attack?

I am referring to those T5 ones.

Have someone tested it?

[brisk sierra]

better than t1-4 keke

[crimson echo]

Is yeti a good familar

[bleak crescent]

Like if you are doing 1M kills in a single hit without that.. and hitting the same with will increase the kills by?

[crimson echo]

I am just 15m

[bleak crescent]

Like if you are doing 1M kills in a single hit without that.. and hitting the same with will increase the kills by?
I know it depends upon a lot of things but still have anyone tested it?

[crimson echo]

Thank you

[glossy zodiac]

I don't think there can be a definitive test due to all the factors (fams on both sides, stats, troop comp, heroes)

[tame blade]

Uhm I tested my incomplete p2p fams against some bright orb fams when I was registering showdown

I would assume the effects would be more significant on larger targets, but I can't really quantify

[coral basalt]

U can’t give numbers

It will be different per person

[split furnace]

P2P familiars have special power when you launch them into Battle and if your battle skill is full you can do a massive amount of damage

[coral basalt]

The damage can be shit

If I’m a weak noodle

And like 300% range

[bleak crescent]

I was not asking for my account.

[tame blade]

The damage can be nothing if you don't lose 4% of your troops

[bleak crescent]

Actually my friend gonna max one of those but he will not use it in rally. He actually isn't a rally lead.

[tame blade]

Me either til today

[bleak crescent]

I mean to ask if it's worth it just for solos or can only be worth effective in rallies.

[tame blade]

I have a maxed bon, close to finishing bunny also

[bleak crescent]

Nice.

[tame blade]

It definitely makes me feel more comfortable about soloing

And helping with a gb

But it only matters for the big juicy targets

[bleak crescent]

Ok.

4% of a 375,000 march is just 15,000 which is I think easy to loose in a solo attack on a castle with 3-4M troops.

[coral basalt]

That’s not the only thing

The damage depends on ur stats too

[bleak crescent]

That I know..

[visual sluice]

Jaziek, magmalord, terraspike for -40% are really effective, but being attacked by a blast means only 1 of the 3 will be useful in any given defense
@tame blade yes bro...only one will be active. bro.

first line up only stays active in battle.

I have total mixed 4.2M troops bro.

i saw my battle reports bro....only my first lines stays active...other troops stay idle.

[bleak crescent]

Really? @visual sluice

[visual sluice]

I dont know

how it works.

[tame blade]

I fkn hate being called bro

[brisk sierra]

people always be assuming

[tame blade]

it's apparently more like a term of respect in certain countries

but where I live I just imagine some douchy frat guy

[brisk sierra]

lmao

[coral basalt]

[glossy zodiac]

I fkn hate being called bro

Even though I'm a guy I still definitely hate this

also essentially nobody here has a positive association with the word so if you call someone 'bro' you're certainly not complimenting them and you know it

[sacred moat]

Maybe if you had a real name they would call you by it?

[glossy zodiac]

People, including me and fira, have real names

And on platforms like discord there are also usernames by which we can be referred as

[sacred moat]

I thought that was your comment didnt see msgs before sorry

[glossy zodiac]

[sacred moat]

Is just an overused term for any male person

It lost the true meaning

[lucid rampart]

also essentially nobody here has a positive association with the word so if you call someone 'bro' you're certainly not complimenting them and you know it
Yeah usually if I call someone bro it’s not meant in a good way

[brisk sierra]

Hey bro

Jk qweeby

[lucid rampart]

[unreal thistle]

is hue hops free as i have that but can it be maxed to elder stage

[brisk sierra]

yea its free'

[unreal thistle]

so how to get its medals

[brisk sierra]

you need to get to c25 first then you unlock elite hero stages but for familiar

9-10

it only gives 1 medal per 4 tries and it takes 10 sta each

[unreal thistle]

so for opening elite i have to pay bro i am f2p

c25 already i am

pact 4 is going to open

[coral basalt]

Bisch Huey hops is a T5 familiar

Hat bravehearts and sta u on about

[bleak crescent]

it only gives 1 medal per 4 tries and it takes 10 sta each
@brisk sierra
Really?

[brisk sierra]

No

[silk elk]

Lol

F2p it's Tycoon and gem store and time

And each use of elder ability is crazy expensive

[visual sluice]

so how to get its medals
@unreal thistle that's not free..... you just get 1 runes so that IGG can lure you to max it by spending money...

you can get their medals from tycoon... though...but it will take time...and your precious gems..

[silk elk]

Exactly. Time and gems. The game is basically all about time if you are f2p

[meager fox]

This game is all about pay to win.

[restive fractal]

1d to get my first elder 😄👨🏼‍🦳👴🏻

[coral basalt]

Kinda shit ngl but congrats

[plain void]

Was my first Familiar at Elder, seems to be one of the easiest to get to Elder. It’s a start anyways, congrats

[restive fractal]

I am noob guys this is all i have :’(

[brisk sierra]

[restive fractal]

[brisk sierra]

[restive fractal]

Guys Is he good?

[brisk sierra]

if you can get 225 more runes yes

[restive fractal]

Ill try :’( thanks bru

[hollow idol]

Hhh

[plain void]

Yikes

That’s a lot of Tycoon rolls or individual Frostwing familiar packs

[silk elk]

Train him to level 15 for now

[tame blade]

You can get frostwing pacts from paladin also

[quartz relic]

[lean burrow]

what pact 3 familiar do I Max out first?

[bleak crescent]

Trickstar, @lean burrow

Those holy stars give materials + gems + resources...

[visual sluice]

frostwing pacts if lucky you can buy from bargain store too

[brisk sierra]

yea have fun waiting for those to come around

[silk elk]

Or Mole if a trap

[brisk sierra]

you got your priorities wrong

[quartz relic]

[silk elk]

I did Trickstar but if you have a 40 day repair wall Mole makes a huge difference

[brisk sierra]

the thing is

why would you have 40 day wall repair

in the first place

[last gull]

Why tf does your wall take 40 days?

[brisk sierra]

exactly

priorities all wrong

[quartz relic]

laughs in max defense research

[silk elk]

Not my wall, but I knew someone who did who was a brutal trap

[brisk sierra]

chu you're perma shielded

[quartz relic]

ill unshield for kvk

but no one hits me anyways

[brisk sierra]

same?

[quartz relic]

unless bob is paired with my kingdom he will hit me

[brisk sierra]

ima get solo by wukong kek

[quartz relic]

[silk elk]

Mole also very handy for meeting dragon arena requirements if you have been hit

[quartz relic]

just dont do defense research in the first place

[brisk sierra]

or wall speeds

[quartz relic]

or wall speeds

i have loads of those

[brisk sierra]

im low on theese kek

chu donate

[quartz relic]

too lazy to log in

[silk elk]

Easy to save them if you sit behind a wall

[quartz relic]

or you know just dont have defense research

[silk elk]

I mean shield

[quartz relic]

i have 1 day repair time

[brisk sierra]

13 days

[silk elk]

I don't know why we're arguing, my wall is 5 days

[quartz relic]

so just use 5 day speed up

[lucid rampart]

Mine is 3 days I think

[quartz relic]

its not expensive

[silk elk]

Never use speed ups except for research

[brisk sierra]

wall speeds

[last gull]

You use wall speeds on research?

[brisk sierra]

yea use wall speeds for research

big brain

[lucid rampart]

[quartz relic]

discord is broken

oh finally

[brisk sierra]

i should research wall repair research kekw

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

I don’t have very many wall speeds

[quartz relic]

worrypoof

[brisk sierra]

im missing a 94% healing

if i get those

i should have like 6 days repair

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

[quartz relic]

queen

[brisk sierra]

oh thats a bus

[lucid rampart]

Yes?

[quartz relic]

did you forget to censor that

[silk elk]

I have all pact 3 maxed except Gryphon so why wouldn't I use Mole. Like I said he wasn't the first I maxed, 1 Trick, 2 Gemming

[brisk sierra]

i got excited

[lucid rampart]

Maybe

[quartz relic]

[brisk sierra]

chu no point

[lucid rampart]

It’s just a bus

[quartz relic]

bus ffs

how was the bus

anyone wanna take me to a bus

ill hunt

[lucid rampart]

It was alright

[brisk sierra]

qweeb whos your admin

i know some of them

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

[quartz relic]

i dont know how to do busses

only leeched on one bus

[brisk sierra]

chu

look through the bus

for ore hypers

below 1b

[lucid rampart]

[quartz relic]

which bus

[lucid rampart]

No looking for me

[brisk sierra]

HAM

[lucid rampart]

Mino

[quartz relic]

one second

[lucid rampart]

[quartz relic]

below 850 too

[lucid rampart]

I left

[brisk sierra]

less than 1b more than 200m

[quartz relic]

less than 850 more than 200

[brisk sierra]

yes

[lucid rampart]

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

I need to be more careful about censoring stuff

[quartz relic]

[lucid rampart]

[brisk sierra]

8 suspects

[lucid rampart]

[brisk sierra]

qweeby if you tell me what vip level you are i promise i wont tell others

[lucid rampart]

Not happening

[brisk sierra]

you booli

[lucid rampart]

You’re the bully

[brisk sierra]

no

[lucid rampart]

Yes

[brisk sierra]

but

[lucid rampart]

[brisk sierra]

i'll send you the ss of names at least tell me if im right

pwease?

[lucid rampart]

Idk

You might be right

[quartz relic]

she has to be vip 15

[brisk sierra]

kk going to spam some ss

[lucid rampart]

You sure?

[quartz relic]

dont do it here lol

dm or go somewhere else

[brisk sierra]

qweeby booli

[lucid rampart]

No

[quartz relic]

stabbu

did mino find out

[lucid rampart]

Nope

[brisk sierra]

no

[quartz relic]

even if you did you would probably say no

[lucid rampart]

[quartz relic]

he found out didnt he

[lucid rampart]

Nope

Not yet

[quartz relic]

[brisk sierra]

yet

i will hunt you down

[lucid rampart]

Good luck

[quartz relic]

stabby

[dull ferry]

Can someone pyris me?

[lucid rampart]

Yes

[reef cove]

Ok I’ve merged like 300 pacts, and I only have 8/10 for aquiris, am I doing something wrong?!?!

[upper moat]

no

just low drop rate

[tame blade]

Unless you're merging 1a by accident, then yes you'd be doing something wrong.

[visual sluice]

dont open 100 pacts at once...open 10 at once.

[brisk sierra]

it dont change the rates

all random

[tame blade]

Yea it doesn't change the rates. Opening 100 at a time is more just convenience. Some people may value superstitions and have false hope- those things likely outweigh the convenience factor. Especially if they want to make an 1hr long video of them opening chest

[grizzled summit]

If you could have one familiar, which one would you take

[quartz relic]

bon apeitit

nvm i take that back

bunny or blackwing maybe blackwing

[tame blade]

Blackwing. Is a 600%/4% fam and has useful skill even if not awakened

If jade wyrm had a talent tho...

[proven arch]

If you could have one familiar, which one would you take
@grizzled summit bunny

[plain void]

Are there any new codes

[night tapir]

?warn @plain void stop spamming channels

[clear basin]

The orange#7197 has been warned. || stop spamming channels

[ember gulch]

[plain void]

[umbral barn]

Okay

I only just unlocked familiars

Can someone please tell me what the heck they are?

Cause I can't deploy any

[rain frigate]

You need to research familiar battle slots and have familiars awakened to deploy them in battle

[serene sandal]

It's gonna take a while

[night tapir]

Merge pacts, train familiars, research. It's a long grind. Take the time to pay attention to which familiars you actually want to focus on so you don't waste time on useless stuff.
Get the best voodoo shaman equipment you can.

[umbral barn]

Thanks a million guys

[solemn shoal]

Thanks a million guys
@umbral barn Forget about battle familiars for now. Go for Pact 3, unlock gemming gremlin so you can get 1000 to 2000 gems every 2 days, and golden goblin. Those really help on your growth

Also trickstar

[umbral barn]

Damn

1000 gems!

[restive fractal]

😄 guys is this nerd any good?

[night tapir]

No

[hollow idol]

[quartz geode]

[restive fractal]

[split furnace]

Anyone know if black wing is better or the rabbit

[quartz relic]

yes

[plain void]

Which one is it

[tame blade]

Yes terraspike is good... if you dont have p2p fams its decent in attacks when you know front is infantry. It's decent in defense if they send infantry (so range rein traps I guess)

[rose leaf]

What familiar’s battle skill should I unlock first?

[tame blade]

Weevil or aquiris

[split furnace]

Try the stacker

[tame blade]

Stacker for attacking, more expensive options

[scarlet tide]

So after stackers among the ones who need red talent orbs which one is better for battle among tampestite, 15% attack or HP ones ??

Ignoring the cost of red orbs.

[tame blade]

HP as in weevil and aquiris? Also for attacking or defending?

[scarlet tide]

For attacking

[tame blade]

I have almost all the worthwhile bright orb fams maxed except tempestite. My order was weevil/aquiris -> atk stackers -> 80% hp -> -40% hp reduction -> 15% attack

[scarlet tide]

Where wud you put tampestite in this order??

[tame blade]

For attacking you can do stacker/gryphon/tempestite

Temepstite is nice because you can use for all 3 types. But it's not good in defense

If you have 4th slo the 80% hp for 10s ones are good unless you know frontline then -40% hp might be better

Weevil/aquiris best for defense only. Flat atk are the cheap options that work for both sides of battlefield

[scarlet tide]

So for attack stackers n tampestite are top choices for red orbs thanks@tame blade

[tame blade]

get gryphon too

[scarlet tide]

@tame blade OK that's the only one where yellow ones will go

Thanks@tame blade

[visual sluice]

@tame blade what is the third familiars for defense

[tame blade]

Probably the -40% hp for the troop type that counters your frontline

[visual sluice]

I wont know which one he will send

[tame blade]

If you are sitting in infantry phalanx, then use the familiar that reduces cav hp

[visual sluice]

my trick is changing frontlines..

as atack army.

[tame blade]

Thats everyone's trick

[visual sluice]

so for that what familiars to keep.

[tame blade]

Unless you are a rein trap ofc

[visual sluice]

what about pyris

[tame blade]

Pyris is very useless

[upper moat]

True

I have level 2 pyris

[visual sluice]

how about territe..

[tame blade]

No... you could also just get the flat atk one for whichever stat is your lowest

Unfortunately there aren't a lot of good defensive options.

Idk what kind of comp you have but if its small and you see 10% losses in front line you can use the stackers. Its all relative

[visual sluice]

I have 4.5M troops
140K each T4
500K each T3
800K each T2

rest T1 tempestitee gives me.

[grizzled summit]

Awesome comp. Tell me when you take fury next time.

[visual sluice]

in KVK

[plain void]

Is pyris good

I wanna max it

It's gives 60percent plus

[night tapir]

Yes but not really. Pact 3 and 4 much more worthwhile

[tame blade]

pyris is useless in attacks because it's wasted on the wall.
pyris is useless in defense because it is wasted on the few buffer troops.
pyris is useless in wonders because competitive wonder leads have better options.

Just don't use Pyris

[viscid pelican]

but i already made it an i want to justify it

[tame blade]

if you smash wall first I guess its okay in attacks. and ok in tile hitting lol

[silk elk]

@tame blade interesting. Was planning to do engineer next and wondered why you ranked att fams low? I have a lot of familiars but not a lot of orbs.

[tame blade]

that's just the order I did them in, I think flat atk fams are a good option

they are cheap versatile options

[silk elk]

Ah got it. I've gone for attack on each type, stack each type and Gryphon

Apart from early misfire when I awoke crabby when the update first happened

[tame blade]

not bad choices. you can put the 3 flat atk ones on your wall. and you have fams for your attacks too

[silk elk]

Thanks. The pact 4 ones look weird and expensive

[tame blade]

yeah the pact 4 options are only good if you have 5th slot, and thus have room for the shield fams

maggot sees some use but I don't like it

[silk elk]

Ok will think about them in a few years time then

[plain void]

Bruh

I been working on pact 2b families for so long

And just when am close to pyris u say it's useless

[silk elk]

Pyris good for gf tasks and checking what's in a turf, so I'm told

[plain void]

Pyris gives 60 percent plus boost to heroes

Pff am getting it anyway

The boost it gives should be legit!?

[silk tinsel]

it is but it only lasts 10 seconds and makes it useless bc its waited in buffers or wall

the boost is legit but it{s just not long enough to really make much of a difference in the battle

[tame blade]

When I said pyris was useless I meant the awakened talent. I do use its elder attack to see if a potential but far away target is empty or to test for x2/3

And yes the 10s boost to hero squad attacks is enough for 1-2 hero attacks. Thats used on the wall or buffer troops usually

[bronze plover]

What scroll do you need to get trickstar?

[hazy dove]

Scroll?

I'm assuming by scrolls, you mean pacts. That's pact 3

[quartz relic]

i generally use migration scrolls

to get trickstar

[lucid rampart]

I’ve been using admin quest scrolls

[night tapir]

Dead sea scrolls

[nova trench]

I use guild questt scrolls

[night tapir]

I like cinnamon scrolls

[bronze plover]

Thank you for the AMAZING info ;—;

I meant pacts

[hazy dove]

Remove the 2b might role btw. That's deception and it's illegal

[plain void]

[upper moat]

[brisk sierra]

[elder trellis]

[unreal thistle]

hi have a doubt today I opened my monsterhold and seeing a log talanted I dont know why

[hazy dove]

It happens when you switch accounts

[glossy zodiac]

I prefer cinnamon rolls tbh

[lament nexus]

Is it worth going back and getting aquiris and territe to elder? I have the pact 3 stacking familiars maxed and all the useful pact 1/2 familiars at lv50, also have 80% of the runes needed for elder gryphon. A few weeks away from unlocking pact 4.

[hazy dove]

How many fam slot?

[lament nexus]

I have 2 slots open but Aquiris/Territe would be more about the admin benefits for me.

[tame blade]

Territe is not worth getting elder, in my opinion

Its one of the few I dont have elder even still

[silk elk]

I would say yes, Aquiris because it's worth maxing the STA skill and you get more anima, and territe because it's a cheap way to get merge speed and the extra fragments are handy

[lament nexus]

Thanks guys!

[unreal thistle]

thanks for info

[tame blade]

someone did the calculations and the time is takes to get territe elder is longer than the time it saves you with increased merge speed. But sure... fragments, I guess

[silk elk]

That's interesting in which case I stand corrected. Although it would depend surely on how long you are playing?

[tame blade]

Once you get all the p4s elder you generally merge skillstones unless you're going for a hell or spamming fragments. In any case at that point you don't much notice or care about the extra 6%

[silk elk]

Got it. My merge speed boost is quite a long way above that with gear and I do plan to keep merging pact 4 once I have all the runes because I have everything else and it's a good way into hells. But I know most won't do that.

The fragment costs of pact 4 skills at elder are a bit crazy

[visual sluice]

is krabby good familiars to keep on wall???

[quartz relic]

if you wanna get zeroed sure

make sure to migrate here and go fury too

[lament nexus]

Wow, thanks Fira that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it! :)

[viscid pelican]

Wow, thanks Fira that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it! 🙂

[glossy zodiac]

Wow, thanks Fira that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it!

[glossy zodiac]

Personally I found the fragments to be worth it to max it

but tbf I did that after I had already maxed all the "important" f2p fams

and it was somewhat just for completionism

[tame blade]

I might get territe sure but I still have to finish the p2p fams..

[quartz relic]

Wow, thanks Fira that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it!

[tame blade]

Got it. My merge speed boost is quite a long way above that with gear and I do plan to keep merging pact 4 once I have all the runes because I have everything else and it's a good way into hells. But I know most won't do that.

Btw if your merge speed is higher than the example that means territe is even less worth it. Diminishing returns and all

I also feel like I deserve 0 credit for screenshotting someone else's work in the other discord

[quartz relic]

[silk elk]

@tame blade you credited them. Seems fine to me. I maxed territe a while ago. Sometimes it's good for my morale to train up an easy one.

[viscid pelican]

Wow, thanks Fira that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it! 🙂

[quartz relic]

Wow, thanks Dokke that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it! 🙂

[storm vale]

[night tapir]

Wow thanks that's very helpful and informative. Appreciate it!

[ember gulch]

[tight sandal]

Everyone so nice

[brisk sierra]

no u

[storm vale]

[night tapir]

Carissa-bot is so nice 🫀

[plain void]

[elder trellis]

Once you get all the p4s elder you generally merge skillstones unless you're going for a hell or spamming fragments. In any case at that point you don't much notice or care about the extra 6%
@tame blade watcher merge event

[tame blade]

If you have all p4s elder but watcher isn't gold i feel sorry for you

[swift briar]

Oof guess that means I should probably start on watcher

[viscid pelican]

Wow, thanks Fira that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it! 🙂

[dreamy hatch]

Wow, thanks Fira that is very informative and helpful. Appreciate it! 🙂

[gray plank]

Copying Dokke message 😅😂😂😂

[dreamy hatch]

he is my guildmate

[lucid rampart]

It’s a meme

[dreamy hatch]

you got a problem?

[gray plank]

Did I pointed you? 😎

[glossy zodiac]

Did I pointed you?

[lucid rampart]

[abstract fox]

Any news from IGG about an additional pact 1-3 fam that will use cores besides Pyris?

[quartz relic]

mega maggot

oh wait

[abstract fox]

Yeah, it's pact 4... Just have so many laying around and it seems wasted between those 2

Even if another new pact 4 I'd be ecstatic if it gave bagged energy and a useful way of using up the cores

Or since the code 66 event is gone forever, bagged anima too.

[quartz relic]

yea...i mainly use pryis with the ancient cores

[normal pollen]

I have a big problem getting pryris.. Until now.. Lol

[gray gale]

I'm only getting pryris for gf task

[gusty forge]

I still didn't open pyris... Waste totally...

[potent citrus]

Was focus on collecting pyris frag before but after just unlock p3 I am starting on p3.. aiming for the goblin and rhinos

[hazy dove]

Well, I trained trickster, gem guy and gold guy all to 50 before I could have their 120 pacts

[potent citrus]

[rare fossil]

I already maxed them also

[potent citrus]

Ok

[broken dune]

Orbs available in hell event

[brisk sierra]

ok?

[heady jetty]

Which familiar to max first f2p

[grizzled summit]

Tell us first which pacts you have 1, 2,3,4

[civic birch]

5

[grizzled summit]

But in general gems are always worth it

[livid berry]

I got till pact 3

Should go for pact 3 ones or pact 2 first?

Pact 3 are pretty new pact 2 are abt half way till max

[elder trellis]

Pacts 3 do @livid berry

[livid berry]

[bleak crescent]

[visual sluice]

@livid berry try to do research after pact 3 also.... it will help you a lot...

I reached pact 3 and merged all runes for pact 3...but now I am doing research for cost reduction of pact 3...to reach pact 4..

it's kind of odd for me...

I reached pact 3 and merged all runes for pact 3...but now I am doing research for cost reduction of pact 3...to reach pact 4..

it's kind of odd for me...

so if your academy is level 25..then finish of the familiars tree.

@heady jetty goblin, gremlin and trickster

[livid berry]

@visual sluice sure thanks

[fickle crane]

Goblin is too overrated

people can live without it

[brisk sierra]

free gold

unless you wanna supply me 1b gold per day

[fickle crane]

what IF YOU DO NOT NEED IT

Sorry for caps

accidental

I will not go for goblin before hoarder

[brisk sierra]

yea have fun wasting time not doing any merges between pact 3 and 4

[fickle crane]

What do you mean

I already got pact 4

and I have all the runes

[brisk sierra]

the point of what im saying is

when you unlock pact 3

are you just going to not do any merges while researching pact 4

or do merge and research at same time

._.

wait forget it

[fickle crane]

I already researched pact 4

[brisk sierra]

you're that troll

[fickle crane]

I have 190 goblin runes

more than enough

But I am focusing on pact 4 with exp

the exp is such a pain in the ass

[visual sluice]

@fickle crane I had goblin before unlocking T4...I never asked for gold from my guild mates.... rather I gave them when they needed it..

[fickle crane]

It is not about that

[tame blade]

People want goblin for the army talent ... it's also the "best" pact 3 option for hypers

[livid berry]

I love the familiar skills of pact 3

[vital thorn]

Harpy is thicc

[lucid rampart]

[tame blade]

Same model as Strix

Kinda lame how they reuse models

[visual sluice]

territe and pyris

[lean burrow]

just blue and red😂

[scarlet shale]

Why are bright talent orbs not being made available to purchase via packs? There used to be $5 packs that gives 50 orbs. But no more?

[tame blade]

It happened with lunite also

[quartz relic]

[ember gulch]

u can buy bright talent orbs with packs

[tame blade]

Theyve been missing from shop for a long while.

[ember gulch]

No?

I just saw them yesterday or the day before yesterday

U can buy 100 bright for $20usd

[tame blade]

Thats brilliant

The bright orb pack for $5 has been missing for weeks. Not sure how long exactly bc I havent needed bright orbs in a while.

[plucky crescent]

I unlocked pact 3 tryna make gemming gremlin and trickster elder want the gems and stars

i need merging speeds or a ton of gems :(

[tame blade]

@plucky crescent
103 Gremlin Runes- 1366 pact 3s
86 Goblin Runes - 1140 pact 3s
79 Trickstar Runes - 801 pact 3s.

Merging 13 in 1 day 5hrs. You will have trickstar in ~75 days (62 rotations)
You will have all 3 in 127 days (105 rotations)
Gem cost for your 1 rotation should be 3600 gems- meaning to finish now with gems you'd need 378k gems.

[bitter bear]

How many days left till I can get them to elder

[tame blade]

how am I supposed to answer that without knowing the time it takes you to merge x pacts

[bitter bear]

I merge 15 in 1day and 6hrs

[tame blade]

@bitter bear

should have them all elder in about 3 months barring issues with exp

[bitter bear]

Yippe

By February

[cerulean wasp]

4 to 5 months for pure f2p

[bitter bear]

Am pure f2p

[visual sluice]

how many orbs needed to max gnome, yeti and engineer ?

jaziek, terraspike and magmalord

[brisk sierra]

go do your math

x10 the amount for what it takes to awaken

[visual sluice]

@brisk sierra why you so rude?? and why do you reply when you hate me...

[brisk sierra]

how is that rude

you cant tell me im wrong when i say its 10x the amount of what it takes to awaken

and can you stop pinging me?

you dont know when to stop

[lucid rampart]

[grizzled summit]

[plucky crescent]

[lucid rampart]

Bruh

[tame blade]

mino is a bully

[lucid rampart]

Yes

[coarse dock]

queen*

[lucid rampart]

Wait what

[coarse dock]

o

Sure

In here its mino

But everywhere else

Its queen

[lucid rampart]

Wym

[bitter bear]

[brisk sierra]

wait

how am i a bully

[tame blade]

You seemed really irritated

[brisk sierra]

eh

[sinful pewter]

Loo

Lol

[scarlet tide]

@tame blade do u have data on pact 4 my merge speed is 297% approx??

It takes 2 hr 8 min to merge 1 pact 4 in otherwords

[tame blade]

The official drop rates are available online. When I calculated that I needed runes required and time to merge x pacts (no formula for speed % as im not sure base time and dont care to get that dynamic)

[plucky crescent]

Unmmm

[coral shadow]

I did that years ago. Here you go 🙂

[plucky crescent]

Thanks @coral shadow

It helps to know but just made my morale go down to 0.000001 percent

[coral shadow]

It will likely go a lot faster than the numbers suggest, at least if you do merge hells 🙂

[plucky crescent]

I don’t have many speeds

I can do 13 pact 3 in 1 day 5 hrs with gear

And I got trickster to 42/120 runes

I think gemming is wayyyy lower though

Cuz I only have 20/120 so far

But goblin is 30 something

@coral shadow

Okay well time to wait

[coral shadow]

Well should be 42 days for you to max Trickster then

[plucky crescent]

Yea... I hope I get it soon

I hope they make a new pact 3 familiar

One for tycoon

Like at lvl 1 u can get 1 token but at lvl 10 5 tokens

[coral shadow]

Yeah that would be great. Some for tomes and orbs too. Maybe one that decrease cargo wait time, increase chance for special trade, increase amount of trades and other fun stuff

[coral viper]

P2P familiar that gives those boosts

[dreamy epoch]

hey guys, i'm close to unlocking pact 4, since i'm into monster hunting mostly, i was thinking about upgrading saberfang first, but i'm not sure what exactly his third skill does

[brisk sierra]

for 1 hit adds 15 stacks

[dreamy epoch]

and when i attack the second time?

will it be 16th stack, or second?

[brisk sierra]

second

[hazy dove]

16th

[dreamy epoch]

[hazy dove]

When you use saberfang, your first hit after using it counts as your 16th

Or if you have done 5 before, it counts as your 21st

[dreamy epoch]

and if it doesn't kill a monster, and i attack it again, will it be the 17th hit, or back to 2nd?

[hazy dove]

17th

[dreamy epoch]

oh wow

that's amazing

it's like 200% dmg right away

maybe even more

[hazy dove]

Yes

[dreamy epoch]

thank you

[hazy dove]

Thank mino not me

He told me the answer

[brisk sierra]

i dont even have saber

[dreamy epoch]

thank you mino 😊

[night tapir]

Thank Google

[hazy dove]

[unreal thistle]

best f2p familiar? anyone tell

[hazy dove]

Pact 4 fams

[unreal thistle]

tell me I have in Pact 1 all the fam above level 50 which should I upgrade for attack

tell me for level 2 also

I have opened pact 3 but not yet reached that stage for attack upgrade

so please help me

[hazy dove]

Don't touch pact 1 fams for attack

[unreal thistle]

okay and for pact 2

[hazy dove]

Use evil weevil or aquiris

[unreal thistle]

okay

harpy i am doing level 50 for shelter expansion

[ember gulch]

I have maxed pact 1 fams

[hazy dove]

Evil weevil for defending and aquiris for attacking I guess

[unreal thistle]

okay

[ember gulch]

I’m too lazy to unlock pact 3

[hazy dove]

Don't do shelter expansion

[ember gulch]

My shelter expansion maxed

[hazy dove]

It's useless because even when maxed, it won't take all your troops

[ember gulch]

[hazy dove]

Except you want to sit at 500k troops

[unreal thistle]

my research of expansion is level 8 and harpy is level 49

I can shelter right now around 300k troops

[long mural]

I finished merging all pact 3s before 2s or 1s. ....LOL

[hazy dove]

Same. I only maxed aquiris and the pact 1 wood fam before pact 3s

[tame blade]

When I was a new player I thought increased shelter capacity was good too, lol

[bleak crescent]

[bleak crescent]

Same.

[unreal thistle]

same

[scarlet tide]

@coral shadow thanks

[plucky crescent]

Lmao

[unreal thistle]

one of my guild member is getting attacked inside shield with t
ward gets started automatically?
or we have to start it

[tame blade]

huh??

[night tapir]

It gets started automatically.

[ember gulch]

Is Ward perma after it starts assuming I don’t use fam attacks on someone else

[brisk sierra]

it decreases over time

[loud condor]

How does frostwing compare with gargantua p2p familiars? Anyone knows?

[sage shadow]

Frost wing speed up enemy troops gargantua extends gf quest

[tame blade]

He means talents im sure

The 600% fams are highly regarded as the better options

But they are both worthwhile

Garg is slower to max as the $20 pack gives 10 pacts instead of 15 like the others and seems drop rate is lower in tycoon also.

[tame blade]

Also fw doesnt speed up enemy troops it slows them...

[loud condor]

Yeah, seems like everyone is pointing to those 600% familiars. Thx.

[split blade]

🐞

[coral viper]

Yo why the bug here. Btch slap it

[broken dune]

[near beacon]

I got a lvl 5 familiar ( a very very rare one ) , tell what to do with it , i mean what's the purpose

[unreal thistle]

which one

name

[hazy dove]

I guess you have 1 pact. You can't do anything with it for now. Forget you have it

[near beacon]

Okee dokee

[hazy dove]

If you want to have them eventually, buy token packs and keep rolling till you get all pacts

[coral shadow]

Buy all familiar pacts in bargin shop too

[hazy dove]

Then supplement it with $5 packs

[silk elk]

@ferris I recommend you train it to level 15 and max the skill because all their first skills are ok.

[fickle crane]

Hmm same

Battle skills

[silk elk]

Also if you don't want to spend cash can save gems for next bargain store. You will get a couple to adult that way and their second skills are all pretty good.

[fickle crane]

Is it even worth it since the cooldown is already at 1d?

[hazy dove]

Yes. Free level 5 rss every day is something

[near beacon]

Got a frostwing

On my alt

[grizzled summit]

Just level it up now

[near beacon]

Okau

Okay*

[grizzled summit]

It's higher than my frostwing

[tepid inlet]

The only good familiar I have is frost

[light hull]

Lol

[storm vale]

Just got this monster

It’s not Easter, it’s almost Christmas