👾┊familiars

[delicate cliff]

absolutely! so if the enmey sends mix, that is -15% of range, then cav, then inf, then siege, as you chew through theyre rally

[gray beacon]

Let's make sure we understand

[delicate cliff]

whereas if you are in range, you are only losing range troops and thus cav and inf are not being hit.

[gray beacon]

HP is a stat that is only active if you are being hit

So it will apply whether it's one troop or all three , it'll be the same percentage

Assuming of course the same amount of base HP stats for all three troop types

Stop giving thumb's up 😭

[delicate cliff]

please continue... if you could be quicker that would be appreciated too

[gray beacon]

There's no wasting per say if all troop types doesn't get hit

It's the same

[rancid shuttle]

👍🏾

[delicate cliff]

i suppose... but if we go back to what the original topic is, where we are compared the buffs.

[gray beacon]

.

.

[delicate cliff]

evil weevil is not giving as much benefit as aquarius, because there actually IS wastage if the other troop types are not being hit, whereas there will be no wastage if the enemy is sending mix

on paper yes 15% increase to your hp is the same as 15% less of enemy hp. but if you only have 1 troop type being hit, that is in reality just 15% range hp boost

[gray beacon]

If you don't mind me asking, how old are both of you

[delicate cliff]

age really doesnt mean anything though?

[gray beacon]

It's an out of topic question

[delicate cliff]

we can have a civil discussion whether i am 1 or 100 lmao

[rancid shuttle]

Unc status 😭

[gray beacon]

I'm 22 for example

[delicate cliff]

i am similar, also in my 20's. it doesnt change anything

[gray beacon]

It doesn't

[delicate cliff]

please consider this situatino

[gray beacon]

I ran out of ways to explain it further

[rancid shuttle]

Imma Js ask chat gpt, what was the topic? Xd

[gray beacon]

Let's say

[gray beacon]

No please don't

It'll hold it as blackmail

[rancid shuttle]

[gray beacon]

Let's say you have three people

[delicate cliff]

please, use the analogies of in game situations

[gray beacon]

Our scenario itself is used as an analogy

Ok here's a simpler way

[delicate cliff]

well, my scenario is using in game situations then. i would like it to be addressed too....

[gray beacon]

There's a 10% training speed boost for all three troop types

And a 10% for each troop type

10% training boost for just infantry... Range etc

If you are going to train infantry only , aren't the general boost and the specific boost the same?

[rancid shuttle]

Interesting

Well yeah

[delicate cliff]

correct. this is my point. ur analogy is good but it however is not talkign abuot the latter of the discussion. the opportunity cost of decreasing all 3 of your enemy's hp.

and in many cases, siege hp too which might help u prevent a walkback (1% chance of helping u tho)

[rancid shuttle]

True.

[gray beacon]

Having a general boost active , doesn't make you have 30% more training speed

If you decide to train mix

[delicate cliff]

it is 10% of each. correcnt?

[gray beacon]

It is 10% for each

You're confusing army HP and army atk

[rancid shuttle]

Ahhhhh

[delicate cliff]

?

[gray beacon]

Army atk works the way you are saying it does

HP doesn't because you're only hitting one thing

[rancid shuttle]

Like All 3 troop types get the same buff?

[gray beacon]

Yes

[delicate cliff]

brother are you not just slowly saying what i am saying

[rancid shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/woohoo-celebrate-gif-3719791047300891146

[gray beacon]

15% army HP is the same as 15% range HP if only range is hit. But 15% army atk is 45% even if only range is hit

[delicate cliff]

correct!

[gray beacon]

Because other troops are attacking too

[rancid shuttle]

Ahhhh understood

[gray beacon]

Meanwhile, if a troop isn't attacked , the HP isn't concerned

[rancid shuttle]

Thank you Sensei

[gray beacon]

There's no situation where all three HPs activate to reduce the losses

[delicate cliff]

HOWEVER 15% army hp reduction of the ENEMY means it is easier to be killed. thus, you are making all 3 troop types of the enemy easier to be killed.

[delicate cliff]

i've said this many a time.

[gray beacon]

@rancid shuttle come back help

Different wording helps

[delicate cliff]

this scenario i provided you, which you seem to have ignored, is accurately depicted that logic

[rancid shuttle]

Fine

[gray beacon]

I've read it don't worry

If the range is the sole loser

[prisma sigil]

Hi

[gray beacon]

They're the same yes

[rancid shuttle]

Hi

[delicate cliff]

right

[prisma sigil]

How are you

[rancid shuttle]

Good, what about you

[prisma sigil]

Fine thanks for asking

Where are you from

[rancid shuttle]

[rancid shuttle]

Atlantic ocean

[prisma sigil]

[rancid shuttle]

[delicate cliff]

the opportunity cost here means that you are only increasing 15% of your range hp, whereas you could instead reduce 15% of each enemy troops type in the mix rally being sent at you, which means you are effecitvely dealing more damage as opposed to taking a bit less damage

[prisma sigil]

I don't know where that is

[rancid shuttle]

Use gps, make sure you get a submarine

[prisma sigil]

So you live under the water 🙂

[rancid shuttle]

From what I understood, the reduction only applies to the largest troop type hitting you

[gray beacon]

Tomorrow when I'm free hopefully, I'll do two situations , one where I send a camp with full infantry, and one with mix troops
And I'll see the difference that aquiris gives each time

[rancid shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-diving-deep-sea-diving-diver-scuba-gif-18864679

[gray beacon]

No what

[delicate cliff]

why so? it's reduction of army hp.

[rancid shuttle]

No?

[delicate cliff]

army hp is collective term of inf range cav siege

[prisma sigil]

🤣 🤣 🤣

[gray beacon]

Guys it's getting late imma sleep gn

[delicate cliff]

okies gn, 9am for me lmao

[prisma sigil]

Sweet dreams

[delicate cliff]

i will also attempt to test but i dont think im going to get testing rallies in chaos

[gray beacon]

Are you east Asian?

[rancid shuttle]

Goodnight lol

[delicate cliff]

australia

[gray beacon]

I see

Aight cya

[delicate cliff]

gn, thanks for discussion

[prisma sigil]

How i can learn more about the game

[rancid shuttle]

Play the game

[prisma sigil]

[rancid shuttle]

Ain't gonna lie I'm confused as shit lol

[prisma sigil]

I'm playing but I want to be stronger

[prisma sigil]

Hhhhh
Why?

[rancid shuttle]

[prisma sigil]

[prisma sigil]

How long have you been playing the game

[rancid shuttle]

Take a guess

[potent crown]

Go off and y'all start having a heated debate about 15% and -15% fams

[rancid shuttle]

[sage barn]

No, the army hp -15% is not divisive, it’s a subtractive effect. I prefer adding army hp to my massive army over reducing army hp of my small 2m invasion.

I didn’t read everything but the talk was about if the enemy sends a mix rally, decreasing their three troop types’ hp trumps over increasing my army hp, because I will be using a single frontline.
If they have p5s, which I think all leads do, they will hit behind the frontline, no ? There you go and all 3 of my troop types are also being engaged so in your argument case, I would still prefer +15% Army Hp to my army over -15% Army Hp to enemy’s.

[potent crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-kitten-handshake-deal-agree-gif-7134721403924803840

[delicate cliff]

That's awesome to read, but no1 ever said it was divisive. Your preference is for you yes that works well too. P5s hit biggest squad which could be and is very often, the frontline, hence you essentially contributed nothing to our discussion as you failed to objectively create an argument or theory to present. Its not about you, its about finding what is most effective so people can implement it. I couldn't care less if my idea is wrong bc that means there is a better strategy for my wall.

[gray beacon]

So I thought about the best explanation and I'm back ( just woke up )
Your army gets 15% more HP
An army can be (0.3 inf 0.3 range 0.4 cav 0 siege) , it can also be (0 inf 0 range 1 cav 0 siege)
Whatever distribution it is , it will get 15%
Then how are we getting 15% effect?
(0.3 inf x 15% )+(0.3 range x 15% ) + (0.4 cav x 15%) = 1 x 15%

If the army is only cav , it'll be (0x 15% ) + (0x 15% )+ (1 x15%) +( 0x 15%) = 1 x 15%

So in that specific situation, it acted as just cav hp

But the effects are the same in any situation

[sage barn]

I replied in parts, because I hadn’t read the entire thing when I said the first part.

Second is that, you gave a response specifically to me … hence my reply. I was asking for familiar setups where I am not necessarily pigeonholed into taking it in a specific way - I want to have a set up where even if swap my formations, they will work well … so they don’t have to be the most optimal for a certain setup but instead a decent choice for multiple setups.

If my largest squad is not the frontline, then obviously p5s hit them in the back. ( for example, imagine me taking an inf blast, I would go for cav frontline, even if my largest squad is range right ? This way, +15% Army hp gives me some more benefit even if I manoeuvre around)

And if it is about the most effective setup, from what we got to know in the other channel, it looks like the 600% fams don’t target the same largest squad so 3 of them will be on the wall. After that 2 shield familiars based on whichever frontlines you prefer … if you have Jade you can swap it in with a shield familiar. That’s probably much better than +/- 15% of army hp.

Sorry if I came off as rude earlier, but I was essentially trying to see if I can get a generic setup which will work even if I move around formations in unorthodox ways. I obviously thought that your reply was an answer to my specific question instead of a general answer

[steady valve]

What a blast. Easy world building, easy troop building, challenging trials and strength building. I loved it. Thank you and we will see you again!!!

[leaden beacon]

[gray beacon]

You should get hit by @jolly sun 's bon appetit familiar to the face to wake up

[jolly sun]

[potent crown]

[steady valve]

???

[gray beacon]

This is the wrong channel for your message

[potent crown]

I don't even get what the message is about

[gray beacon]

Talking about world championship

[gray beacon]

The best familiar setup

[potent crown]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-gif-16258174987336597266

Two gryphon? How?

[fierce heart]

Is he worth or no ?

[potent crown]

Your guild chat though. Wdym high friends

Idk really I'm just using tempestite before drider cuz it's same ability but drider better though don't get me wrong

Drider gonna be among the last fams if I were to work on it cuz saving yellow orbs to max gryphon and shields first

[fierce heart]

in my other guild

[fierce heart]

is it worth to go for tempestite instead of terraspike, evil weevil and other red orbs ?

[potent crown]

My opinion but focus on p3 > hp fams > weevil > tempestite > 15% atk > aquiris > -40% debuffs when using orbs

[gray beacon]

The power of familiars

Inf was hit by frostwing and smol retarget( would still be a win without it anyway cuz 66k DMG on traps)

If you have more than 200% ATK stats and can't win a dn 5 when it counters you , your fams suck

[round arch]

For wonders jade is better or any other 600% dmg fam?

[potent crown]

Is Carumbaa a cav focused account

[potent crown]

Guess I got to try getting a counter from a dn5 now

[gray beacon]

Cav and range

[gray beacon]

Jade is better than 2 600% p5s

Jade at lvl59 is better than 600%

[round arch]

Ok. Thanks

[fierce tendon]

I got a question, Maybe off topic, is familiar got reworked recently, isn't familiar might only increase when reaching higher tier(becoming adult and elder). But it seems that now even upgrading basic skill increasing our might a bit

Or maybe its just my memory got very rusty

[potent crown]

Definitely the rusty memory

[gray beacon]

Both

[vestal rose]

Next red orb fams the 60/60 p3’s ?

[potent crown]

Yeah 👀

[steep coral]

Which is worth more to get? 150% which deals damage up to 4 times or 600% p5?

[potent crown]

150% in wow. If not going to be wonder lead then 600%

[steep coral]

Got it thanks

[gray beacon]

Up to 5 times

[spice jungle]

How to get gleaming goblin familier

[potent crown]

Sorry have no info on such familiar

[icy stag]

Which packs to buy for Jade?

[gray beacon]

Jade packs

[icy stag]

Is it a limited pack? Can't see it today

[gray beacon]

Yes

[pallid jetty]

Which pact 4 familiars are best for defense?

[gray beacon]

Snow beast

[pallid jetty]

Thank you 😊

[gray beacon]

Get Magus done

The 40% enemy infantry HP is also better than aquiris actually, in your case

[gray beacon]

Yw

[lone gate]

I need 30 more pacts to activate bon appetti, is there any way to get it without kingdom tycoon

[gray beacon]

$

[lone gate]

😭

well 14 now, got some good luck with the current event

[potent crown]

Swipe that card 💳

[lone gate]

NOOOO

[vast compass]

I have the queen bee but I can’t get it to upgrade as I have no more runes and you can’t get them from normal pacts

And getting the pacts cost a lot of money and it’s a good familiar as well

[potent crown]

Is that a question

[gray beacon]

Bro started yapping he forgot what his question is

[gray beacon]

Kingdom tycoon but queen bee rotation only

[vast compass]

No

[valid slate]

Hello everyone

It's a pleasure to meet you all

[hexed imp]

Holy the amount of discord bot

[rancid shuttle]

Ong, like 10 bots were spotted yesterday

[grave thicket]

Ye there are a lot this week. Sadly cant do anything unless they do something

[toxic forge]

Hii everyone I'm new here

[strange orbit]

Got 5k bright and 2k brilliant orbs what r other best fims i can invest orbs on for war or defense? Got all f2p fims maxed lvl60 also l5 grag, bon and black wing these 3 p2p maxed

Any suggestions like to know

[sage barn]

Well, Bon, Garg and Blackwing are good for wall if you don’t have more 60m ~ troops
They also work good on blasts
I think you should use the gold orbs for these 3. But you will need 4.8k gold orbs so need 2.8k more
Next is Jade since it’s so versatile, can be used on wall, most blasts, I think wonders too so 1.6k more here
Finally the remaining 3 p5s need 4.8k more. I am working in this order at least
For red orbs, just max out everything

[gray beacon]

Idk why jade is next

Jade should come before p5s

Jade before everything else imo

Then snow beast ( that's 2500 orbs)

Total

[sage barn]

Because Jade very hard to get, the 600% p5s were easier

[potent crown]

Get a shield for your frontline on wall first. Gryphon isn't good with fat comps also. Then you could have one stacker on wall for your frontline.

Other than that you've got good fams for war already

[hexed imp]

Stacker is bad if big frontline

[gray beacon]

There's no situation where stacker will be used a gryphon isn't

[ivory bone]

Hello

[potent crown]

Wtf is this for

[neat plaza]

A new delivery

[rich moth]

Lol

Guys whats the best way to get familiar xp

[potent crown]

Training, completing dailies, tycoon, events and 💳

[vast compass]

What he said

[potent crown]

[vast compass]

[vast compass]

Bro I don’t even have one deployable familiar and you’ve got 8 max level ones

[terse forum]

what talent lvl jade is worth replacing for maxed pact 3s (not stacking)

[gray beacon]

Lvl 8-9

[frail sonnet]

Guys I have a question

See that Pact 2A fam Tempestite, his army skill Stuns enemy's largest squad for eight seconds at max level, so let's say an enemy sends full Calv blast, when my fam is triggered, are all enemy 4 Calv squads stunned or just 1/4?

[gray beacon]

It's a squad so 1/4

There are 4 squads per troop type , look at the formation screen to see where they are placed

[sage barn]

I have finished my p3 stackers, 60/60 and aquirius and evil weevil
Not sure which fam to do next with the red orbs …
I am thinking either tempestite or pyris

[gray beacon]

80% hp

They're not bad , especially now with army collosuem

[sage barn]

Ohk … they cost 200 orbs right?

[gray beacon]

400

P2

[sage barn]

Isn’t one of tempestite or pyris better then ? It needs 800 and is all-purpose
I just need more fams for army colosseum lineups … for normal attacks I have shield, p3, gryphon etc.

[gray beacon]

Stun and pyris aren't that good , 2 80% HP fams are definitely better

[sage barn]

Ohk

[gray beacon]

Can you formulate a sentence?

[upbeat vortex]

🤦‍♂️😂

[vital geyser]

Which p5 to max after bunny frostwing and bee ?

[potent crown]

Jade would've been better first but since you've already done 3 go for jade next

[acoustic imp]

[elfin cedar]

Which fam should I take out and put wade in

I want to add wade into my fam comp for wow

[potent crown]

What fam is wade

Drider I believe is situational for WoW and 150% fams are probably also best suited there but guess I'll leave it for wonder leads

[gray beacon]

You are missing out on snow beast in your 866
I'd remove blackwing and put jade wyrm in though

I'd also remove drider from 848 setup to put jade in

Then I'd use drider over gryphon and jade over bunny in 992

[stray garden]

What are objectively the best familiars for single and mix attacks?

[gray beacon]

Jade wyrm, shield fams, stackers (single) , p5s

If I had to rank them in terms of usefulness in the game , i'd do jade > snow beast > bon > hoarder ( castle mix rallies)> saberfang> bunny> gryphon > cav goblin> > drider> trickstar> frostwing > Magus> gargantua> blackwing> queen bee> noceros > maggot > mole shaman> tempestiste> pyris

Quick tier list on the fly of lvl3 and above fams

[jolly sun]

nice fam I only use in colo is above p5s I run in blasts and mix presets

[stray garden]

Ty

[gray beacon]

Magus comes after blackwing and garg , yes

[calm adder]

Should i unlock familiar slot 4

Or should i do any other research first

[gray beacon]

If you have 4 usable lvl10 fams, yes

[calm adder]

Which pact 4 familiar should i get max first

[potent crown]

Hoarder for jewels, snowbeasts talent next

[gray beacon]

Tidal titan

||For no reason||

[swift anvil]

For the pact 1 familiars are the -15% atk or -40% hp familiars better?

[swift anvil]

Which is better?

[junior vine]

-15% army hp

[swift anvil]

I already got that one, Im just curious about the ones in picture above

[hexed imp]

-15% army hp?

[hexed imp]

Just get terraspike
Save orbs for stackers

[junior vine]

aquiris

[hexed imp]

Ooh I thought you're talking about one of the two picture he sent lol

[swift anvil]

So -40% to > + 15%atk?

[hexed imp]

Yes

[swift anvil]

I am not really going to lead any rallys or smth so I dont really think I need the stackers so badly

[hexed imp]

You'll lead dn or da

Even my farm has stackers maxed out lol

[swift anvil]

Yeah I guess, but Ill rather work on my defense for now

[potent crown]

Just save orbs for p3s

If you really need fams early would say weevil then save orbs for every p3 then hp fams

[stray garden]

What are the best for defense?

[hexed imp]

Jade wyrm
Shield fam
600% familiar

[fierce tendon]

For new player, is it better to build Aquiris battle skill or single type -40%HP fam?

[hexed imp]

Aquiris

[stray garden]

3 shields? 3 600% or 2 and 2?

Also I dont have p5 😭

[gray beacon]

Shield of your frontline

Jade , and p5s

If you don't have p5s , use Magus /mole shaman..

To your specific front

[stray garden]

But do the 3 600% activate?

[gray beacon]

If you lose 4% of your army

[stray garden]

Oh right not troop specific

[gray beacon]

That means if you have 40m troops , you need to lose 1.6m

Yeah

[stray garden]

Right yall use t2 frontlines

😇

[gray beacon]

I don't

[stray garden]

Whats yours?

[gray beacon]

I currently have 9m troops and ready to defend max accounts

T3

[stray garden]

Ooh

[stray garden]

Well Id like to say same

Somehow I aquired 1m each t2

And like 1m t1 (total)

[stray garden]

So how we burn u?

[gray beacon]

Why would I say it

[stray garden]

To see fire

[gray beacon]

Let's say normal mix rallies nowadays can't

[stray garden]

Ok

I wanna see fire

How many beds u got?

[gray beacon]

Like 500k I think

[stray garden]

U train?

[gray beacon]

Yes for events

350% I think

[stray garden]

Nice

[vital geyser]

What is the 600% ?

[potent crown]

Bon, garg and blackwing

[vast solstice]

Guys idk about familiars can anyone guide me

[potent crown]

You've already started working on the wrong ones though

Just go all p3, all shields then hp fams. Don't waste orbs on the rest for now

[random radish]

All P3 is the waste

[hexed imp]

That's why I got all p1

[random radish]

You need p6

That army talent that kills all T5 in the rally after 1% of your troops walk for 1 second is insane

[inland island]

I'm a t4 rally trap running BW, garg, Jade and Magus, ive just got snowbeast max who should I swap him with?

[grim ether]

no 5th slot ?

[inland island]

No

[grim ether]

i'd say magus

but since you have jade you can live without shield fam

[inland island]

Hmm ok noted thanks 👍

[gray beacon]

Huh

Cmon

You know shield fams and jade have a combinatorial bonus ? Like 1+1=3

Even stronger effect together

[grim ether]

i mean he can swap off magus if he wants to

[swift anvil]

Depends on the frontline right? If you got range front, garg is pretty useless isnt it?

For defending do you usually run range frontline? I wanna get either magus or Schamane but I am not sure which on to get first

[potent crown]

That was not even the reason I was expecting

Normally all 600% fams are meant to be on wall. Only contemplation is if having multiple of them on wall gonna target same squad if you get rallied

[gray beacon]

No

Because gargantua and other 600% p5 fams activate when 4% of your troops die , not cavalry specifically

[gray beacon]

No they don't target same squad

Unless the damage done by them is not enough to completely kill it

[hearty gust]

Overkilling is actually an issue when it comes to P5's on the wall. If you have massive damage (say 4-5m each t4) then having more than 1 600% P5 is counter-intuitive as you'll overkill a single squad and the rest of the damage will go nowhere.

It doesn't automatically target the next squad, otherwise my main would be able to delete an entire rally the moment my 3 activate.

(I wish it were true)

[normal hull]

Thought so too.

[gray beacon]

I'm pretty sure we recently tested with @jolly sun and determined that it will kill 3 squads if the alternative is focusing on one and losing on potential. In fact , it will target 3 different squads and not kill them over killing only one

You may be recalling, as I was , an older version of the game because I used to think from that , that it was overkill.
Until Kari showed me another perspective and why I was wrong

#📸┊screenshots message

[hearty gust]

Well that just means IGG made it more confusing, when I'm using them on defense there must still be a hard limit to how much damage they can do because my entire comp is based around overkill. 😭

[gray beacon]

I mean you're still doing it right

Jade and 2 p5s , since you have 3 slots

[hearty gust]

I changed it to 1 cav p5 and magoos. 😛

Though tbf, my comp has changed.

[gray beacon]

Aaaan nono

Magoos not good enough

[hearty gust]

idk, i've never seen my P5's do more than 500k damage.

I hit the limit with just 1.

Doesn't matter what the lead is.

Its just T4 / T5 squad erased and then the rest fought normally, unless its somehow different now.

[gray beacon]

Cuz I think you care about mix and inf blasts , right ? P5 will still do enough damage to remove a squad in the first scenario, and in the second Magus is just HP fam Vs inf

[normal hull]

How is that determined then? That means there's a chance the 600% fam won't hit the actual largest squad?

[gray beacon]

Because your p5s are activating a bit too late

[gray beacon]

Largest and second largest if it has to

Apparently

Also if there is two equally big squads , it will hit two of them to kill more T2 and thus more kills

[normal hull]

But the 3rd squad that got hit in the video was at like 30% health if I saw it correctly. That's hella weird and confusing.

[normal hull]

Is this consistent tho?

[gray beacon]

Well the third largest

[normal hull]

Or is it by chance?

[gray beacon]

As far as I've seen , since then , it has been

[normal hull]

So... a secret change to the mechanic?

[gray beacon]

You can camp test it with me tomorrow or Monday if you're free

[gray beacon]

I'm not aware when the change happened, since I remember an old version of this mechanic and a recent one

[normal hull]

Oh no, I'm not questioning your testings, I'm just trying to understand how it works now.

[normal hull]

Bloody company... making changes nobody asked for

[gray beacon]

You can read the screenshot message part I think it goes through most scenarios

[hearty gust]

I do need to lose 1.3m troops for one to pop, but I also usually have a load of T1 I never delete for that reason. It just gets melted.

[gray beacon]

Tbh this made p5s way better so I guess so

[gray beacon]

Btw Magus may be reducing your gargantua p5 damage

[normal hull]

Simply because they end up dealing more damage, I suppose?

[gray beacon]

Also another strange thing about familiars , I saw someone ( attacker) , absorb all 3 p5s of a big defender with his shield familiar, and he didn't lose any damage

[gray beacon]

Yes

[gray beacon]

I sent the video in guild discord

[normal hull]

[hearty gust]

If it was, it would be minimal and offset by the additional HP. My comp isn't exactly easily comparable to most other rally taking comps.

P5 pretty much only exists on my wall to speed up the cap rather than deal more damage.

I am curious to see though if there's any viable way of optimising it, because IGG does make these bloody silent changes. I remember when they changed how comps worked with T5 a couple years back.

[gray beacon]

I don't understand the last part

If you have more HP and durability, you're not speeding up the cap , you'll need damage for that

[gray beacon]

Yeaa

[hearty gust]

I know, but I'm just saying I've never seen the P5 wipe out more than 500k. Don't get me wrong, I'm open minded to the changes, but my comp can literally do 500k with a single p5 activation.

If I added a second P5 and it could target another squad, it'd have to be considerably more than 500k since I can reach that with a single, surely?

[gray beacon]

Aaaa I see what you mean

[hearty gust]

Its because my comp is T4 fat.

[gray beacon]

You'll have to watch the battle report

But yes

The squads being hit will light up

[hearty gust]

ig easiest way to test it then is against a blast and have 2 back squads.

[gray beacon]

Keep in mind , that if you take infantry blast in range wedge , the two flank squads will be hit severely

So only the middle ones will be hit with p5 considerably

The other two , will be overkill

Unless it's an actual titan lead where his rally procks your p5s before taking considerable damage

[hexed imp]

Hello

[gray beacon]

When is bargain store

[grim ether]

Hi sweetheart

[teal horizon]

who said anything about bargain store?

[rancid shuttle]

When is bargain store

[rugged quarry]

Bargain store?

[potent crown]

https://tenor.com/view/we-dont-do-that-here-black-panther-tchalla-bruce-gif-16558003

[swift anvil]

Magus or Trickstar which one should I get first?

[potent crown]

https://tenor.com/view/really-are-you-kidding-me-got-to-be-kidding-youre-kidding-me-seriously-gif-6521278384595665157

[hexed imp]

Jade wyrm

[pliant citrus]

Please which of the familiars are best for combats ?

[gray beacon]

Trickstar

[potent crown]

Read up a few days and get your answer

Or just do the maths like some did

[pliant citrus]

If someone have done the reading it easier to ask for answers 🥹

[stray garden]

Fr tho magus???

[grim ether]

Ibest fam for atk depends on many things

[vital geyser]

@potent crown i have frostwing bee bunny and drider max , which fams to unlock next ? Are the rest worth it ?

[potent crown]

Shield fams next

[vital geyser]

Which ones first ?

[hexed imp]

Jade wyrm 😭

[potent crown]

Snowbeast

[gray beacon]

@jolly sun look at this 2 p5 damage bs

And this

Sometimes p5s hit 2 different squads to avoid overkill, sometimes they don't

And in fact I used 2 rang heroes, to make sure there is no bias for hero and heroeless squads

[jolly sun]

cool I guess

since it still works sometimes I'm still running 3x600 on my wall

I usually don't have enough t4 for my damage to overkill anyways

[gray beacon]

It doesn't make sense , cuz for it to work there needs to be at least two equally large squads

[vital geyser]

Have that max i meant which other p5 to get

[potent crown]

Jade wrym

[vital geyser]

Ok bon garg blackwing later ?

[hexed imp]

Jade is the best in all p5

[stray garden]

Jade goat

[vital geyser]

Ok jade it is

[terse forum]

Is this setup alright for 857 (DA) except garg will be replaced with bunny soon?

[gray beacon]

Yes

[rose cliff]

If you have two of the 600% damage familiars, will they both fire off? Or only one will work?

Example blackwing and bon in the line up…

[grim ether]

Um Idk if that's a troll question or not

But they both fire off that's why ppl able to use 2 150% 2 600% in a march

[rose cliff]

I’m new lol

But thanks. That answers it

[grim ether]

Replace garg with bunny and it will be amazing

[potent crown]

[rugged quarry]

875 is run in inf phal so should you not send hoarder instead of saberfang

[gray beacon]

[terse forum]

I usually run rng phal and it’s fine but idk

[carmine rose]

Cav shield is fine

[cloud dawn]

Im looking for the top 5 best familiars for mix atk im f2p

If you can send the answer in my dm its would be nice thx 🙂

[potent crown]

600%, 150%, stacker, shield, 60/60, hp, gryphon

And yes p5s are f2p

[gray beacon]

Infantry shield aka hoarder , gryphon, mole shaman , infantry goblin and noceros

That's for castle mix rallies which are sent in infantry phalanx

[cloud dawn]

No hell drider?

[gray beacon]

For DA , spam 857 with 1 inf 2 cav 2 range heroes , gryphon noceros and whatever fams you have that are lvl10

[gray beacon]

I wouldn't consider 1280 orbs hell drider f2p , and also it should be used in mix only in certain situations

Most of the time as a f2p you're better of 60% more HP and atk

[cloud dawn]

Include all familiars execpt paid one

My guild told me gryphon, goblin, gremlin, trickstar and hell drider is it good too?

For mix atk

[gray beacon]

No familiar is a paid one

They can be all unlocked f2p

It just takes longer

[cloud dawn]

Yes but you know what i mean

[gray beacon]

Definitely not

[cloud dawn]

Ok can you name agn

The top 5

[gray beacon]

In a mix rally , the longer your frontline survives , the more damage your backline will do

Trickstar will only activate later in the battle so won't be much use

[gray beacon]

Scroll up. Read again

[cloud dawn]

Isnt that imf blast?

Inf*

[gray beacon]

Nope

Noceros is a cav fam

And your frontline is inf in a castle mix rally

Buffing it as much as possible will make your whole mix do better

[cloud dawn]

Ok

But can i use hell drider?

If its better i dont care abt the price tbh

[gray beacon]

You can , over noceros

It is situational

Sometimes very good sometimes super unnecessary

[cloud dawn]

Ok so top 5 for mix atk

• hoarder
  -gryphon
  -mole shaman
  -goblin
  -hell drider

Do you prefer using noceros or hell drider

[gray beacon]

If you have hell drider use it why not

In the times where it works , meaning when hitting cavalry squads you'll feel its good effect

[cloud dawn]

So hell drider better got it thx

[gray beacon]

Btw goblin , I meant infantry stacker

Idk its name

[gray beacon]

That's not what I've said for 5 mins

[cloud dawn]

Its goblin i think

[cloud dawn]

Im lost... i need to choose one of the 2

[gray beacon]

Hell drider : sometimes strong sometimes weak
Noceros : always decent

That's the difference

[cloud dawn]

Pick one for me

[gray beacon]

Already did

[cloud dawn]

Which one?

[gray beacon]

Read up

[gray beacon]

.

[cloud dawn]

Ok thx!

[gray beacon]

Yw anytime

[grim ether]

Dude can't let it go

[cloud dawn]

What are the top 5 best familiars for inf blast? For cav blast? And for range blast?

[potent crown]

Hoarder, stacker, 60/60, gryphon, then hp fam for inf. Same for range and cav

Assuming no p5

[cloud dawn]

Ok but if you add hell drider?

Is it
-hoarder
-gryphon
-hell drider
-gremlin
-mole shamam
?

[cloud dawn]

Like a mix comp?

[cloud dawn]

@potent crown

[potent crown]

I'll rank hell drider lower cuz it's situational and I'll put blast fams first

4 or lower slots and I'll personally avoid drider but could work if you've got 5 slots

[hexed imp]

Use tempestite hell drider and maggot
It'll work

Trust.

[grim ether]

bro can't let drider go ffs

[grim ether]

sweetheart blasts only work because of the stacker fams it should be the 1st or 2nd in tier list and drider should be the last

more like -goblin - jade/ hoarder - gryphon -mole shaman - drider

[grim ether]

and pyris

[potent crown]

OP fams in mix and blast

[gray beacon]

Stacker , shield , jade 2 p5s

Drider is almost useless unless you know the enemy's biggest squad , is a troop type that counters you

For example if it's cav and you're blasting inf

[rugged quarry]

So for example if you want to zero someone you should probably bring hell drider if the back line or second line is the biggest (depending on phal or wedge)
So I most cases other than these types he'll driver is kinda mid tbh.

[grim ether]

Not mid it's straight up ass

[hexed imp]

That's why I use defense familiar
Works like a charm

[grim ether]

i need to use 3 stuns + 2 p5s

no 3 stun shield and jade

[cloud dawn]

To much info...

[potent crown]

Hoarder, jade, 2 p5s, stacker if p5

Hoarder, stacker, 60/60, gryphon, hp fam if no p5

[calm adder]

Should i max out my pyris army talent?

[potent crown]

No

Pyris good only when wall down and never for attacking if not it's one of the worst to use orbs on first

[calm adder]

Then which are good for attacking?

[grim ether]

Shields , jade , stacker , the 600% p5 the 150% p5 the 60/60 , the pure hp one ,

[calm adder]

How is hell drider

[potent crown]

Worse if you don't know how to use it

Situational for atk and wonders if not generally bad

[nimble zealot]

Doesn’t anyone have a 442 preset with the p2p army heroes and p5 fams

I could see

[gray beacon]

Watcher berserker dream bitch songstress lore weaver
Snow beast , bunny queen bee jade drider

[potent crown]

Dream bitch huh?

[nimble zealot]

Thanks

[calm adder]

Which one should i pick

[trail rapids]

Blackwing

[junior vine]

fragments

[trail rapids]

That's not even in the picture

[junior vine]

but its in the chest so why not

[trail rapids]

Of course not

[hexed imp]

Merge speed

[grim ether]

Ancient cores

[potent crown]

Elixir

[gray beacon]

Petite devil

[potent crown]

Bruh petite devil from where

[rancid shuttle]

Don't listen to these pepol

Pick don guapo

[gray beacon]

Monarch astra

[grim ether]

Curambaa won emp guys

Hold up

[gray beacon]

Everyone disconnected so I won

I got 9th place

[rancid shuttle]

Actually??

[gray beacon]

[rancid shuttle]

Haven't logged on yet

[vital geyser]

Whered u get it ?

@gray beacon what the fam line up for blasts of each type ?

[potent crown]

All atk fam plus jade

Jade, 600, 150, shield, stacker and 60/60

[grim ether]

Or shield

[potent crown]

True forgot that

[gray beacon]

Your heroes man

[carmine rose]

I don't do pvp

[gray beacon]

Demon slayer over grim wolf
Snow queen over dream witch
Child of light over berserker

[grim ether]

You mean over berserker ?

Cus grim wolf seems fine

And berserker gives -10% atk +20%def which is a bad deal

[hexed imp]

Idk I use Oracle everywhere

[grim ether]

Boomeister on top

[carmine rose]

I never changed the pvp batallions, they're as it is

[gray beacon]

Berserker has a better squad activation time

[carmine rose]

[grim ether]

So you say that's worth to lose 25% hp and 10 % atk

[gray beacon]

Squad activation is the most important thing for heroes

[gray beacon]

Berserker has army HP same as grim wolf

No hp loss

And if you ever tried , look at storm fox Vs rose knight and what 25% hp down in mix could be compensated for with squad stuff

[grim ether]

I'm talking about demon slayer replacing berserker

[gray beacon]

But you're using demon slayer + grim wolf, Vs demon slayer+ berserker

So it's berserker Vs grim wolf

[grim ether]

Problem solved get the cheap hero

[grim ether]

But it's an inf blast not a mix

[gray beacon]

Because

Rose knight is clearly better for cav blast than storm fox

But the extra advantage of army HP of storm fox appears in mix

Which isn't an advantage cuz rose knight still has better squad activation time

Rose knight is a better blast and mix cav hero

Similarly, berserker is a better mix and blast hero than grim

[open dune]

Please ask my friend, what is the capacity of familiars in each castle?

[potent crown]

How many fam slots are there in total

[open dune]

Iya Maksudku begitu? Berapa banyak bro?

[potent crown]

[dapper gate]

[vital geyser]

Thnx brotha

[vital geyser]

Which is the 60/60 ?

And shield

[potent crown]

Basically fams that Jeff posted

60/60 is magus, noceros and mole shaman

Shield is hoarder, snowbeast and saberfang

[vital geyser]

Ooh ok thanks

[opaque dirge]

So I'm a new player and so of my familiars are adults but I'm not sure when I'll be able to use them in battle

[gray beacon]

Need to unlock battle skill and that's when they hit elder

[fallow sundial]

It is very bad

[floral bison]

So if you are confusing using them, try their skills/strength in destroying darkness

[idle hemlock]

So… I do not really use familiars unless I had put them in a fighting squad or in the army coliseum, but I have many elder familiars. Which ones should I prioritize? I know grim reaper’s ability is pretty good 😊

[potent crown]

Shields

[gray beacon]

Grim reaper is actually trash

[potent crown]

Snowbeast preferably

[idle hemlock]

Okay perfect! I am trying to learn to use them better than I have been haha.

[fallen raft]

Prio for defece / for your wall = Familiars that activate instantly. And familiars who decrease attacking players HP. I want your troops to stand up as long as possible, and not have them activate once u lost a big chunck og your troops.

[potent crown]

Stares

So which familiars will that be

Help I'm newbie

[gray beacon]

Actually not

Those who activate instantly are often so useless they're better than nothing

[potent crown]

I wanna hear their reasoning behind the reply

[fallen raft]

It depends on how much troops u got. Ig u got 5m troop and familiars activates once 10% falls dead , then those familiars are ok. But if u got 15m. Troop and your familiars dont activate until 10% has died. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

[potent crown]

Actually the lower your comp the better those fams become

Having 100% atk per 10% loss seems like a good deal but depends on your frontline. 10-20m front and having a stacker is beneficial

[fallen raft]

That what ingot on when iam low on troops

[potent crown]

Depending on your comp gryphon shouldn't be there

Aquiris also. Where's your shield fam

Tempestite even worse than gryphon there

[fallen raft]

I screenshot wrong account lol. Iam mostly f2p , still working on shield familiar. I was advice to focus on my familiars that decreased HP on enemy, that would help me.more when getting comps above 20 m

[potent crown]

With a comp above 20m 1 stacker for frontline would still be useful, 60/60 also. Shield is a must have on wall since you're working on it

Could also take out aquiris for gryphon

Weevil can stay in the meantime but 40% hp reduction should go

[fallen raft]

Ok, so i should pause the decrease HP and put all on the shield fams .

[potent crown]

Not all the shield. Snowbeast will be enough

[fallen raft]

Okay

Thank you

[potent crown]

Np

Contact layd if you need more fam advice

[gray beacon]

Rose knight over child of light

[gray beacon]

Rally leads have 800% infantry HP and 800% army HP for example , that's 1600% total
Decreasing 40% of that is only 0.025 effect

If you are taking a rally , especially mix, familiars that would activate at around ~ 2m dead will help you a lot , like Magus , sorcerer, snow beast and even gryphon if your comp is around 20m

Meaning it's better to use ones that will help you win where you would have lost , than ones who give a small boost at all times

[fallen raft]

I see.... 0.025 effect feels tough as hell .
that sounds reasonable. Thank u

[faint cairn]

Wtf

Why spamming this non sense?

Literal in every channel

@grave thicket

Nevermind he removed his mr beast scam

[pale frost]

Hello everyone
Just need little bit of your time if you tell me which familiar is the best to spend my red orbs
The one that can be used for all or hp individual familiars ,

Please do let me know
Thanks

[potent crown]

Have you got stackers maxed

Stackers first then 60/60

[pale frost]

I used this linup which is maxed for all 3 types this is for 5th slot

[pale frost]

Gryphon can be replaced with hell drider also tell me if it's right thing to do

[potent crown]

Drider isn't particularly useful in most cases I'll stick with gryphon

[potent crown]

Any p5

If none then go individual hp strix, sorcerer and hapry for 5th slot

[pale frost]

P5 for inf I'll use when it's ready that's for yellow orb i am looking to spend red orb

[pale frost]

Thanks

[pale frost]

Ok that'll do thanks 😊

[last narwhal]

[calm adder]

Is tempesite good for attacking?

[potent crown]

No

There's blast fams, gryphon and shield for attacking.

Drider be better but isn't always useful

[calm adder]

Blast are done to maximize the opponents loss right?

[trail rapids]

Blast for maximize your fronts when attacking, especially if you attack with one type of troops

[fathom dove]

Is there anyone with all maxed P5 familiars?

[potent crown]

Why?

[fathom dove]

Do you have it?

Never mind was looking for suggestion

[potent crown]

What's the question

Ask that's what this channel is for

[steel gorge]

What's up

[grim ether]

Yes ?

[fathom dove]

Thanks guys, I already got the suggestion from someone. I appreciate everyone’s help here.

[steel gorge]

what were you even trying to ask bruh

Don't leave us hanging like that

[fathom dove]

Nothing special, just about this

returned to the game after almost a year, so just brainstorming a few things and making some changes😁

Btw whats your ign?

[potent crown]

Shield fam for weevil

[steel gorge]

It's I DOM I

Wall is looking pretty good, just get rid of weevil

[fathom dove]

Nice to meet you friend

[steel gorge]

[fathom dove]

whats the name?

[gray beacon]

Get rid of your frontline's p5

Most of the time only 2 p5s are useful

And if you are range front use a range army hero over inf

[eternal monolith]

How to safe my castle from famaliar attack? Because sheild can't able protect from famaliars

[potent crown]

Accept it all

Nothing can be done

[eternal monolith]

Have no safty

[eternal monolith]

Meaning

[sage reef]

how does aquaris works?

lets say enemy army hp is 500%
does aquaris -15% from 500% ie 485% EFFECTIVE
OR DOIES IT REDUCE 15% OD TOTAL , ie 435% effective?

also , how does debuffs and counter works , does evil wheel works the same way?

[jolly sun]

neither of the options, if someone has 500% aquiris will make it 500-15 so 485%, debuffs are multiplicative so 10% debuff means 500% x 0,9 = 450%

counters work same as debuffs

also multiplicative

weevil is just flat +15% hp, same as putting a champ jewel in your gear

[cyan rock]

In pacts 4 which familiar should work on first

[potent crown]

Hoarder skill for jewels, or snowbeast army talent

[sage reef]

p4 , get hoarder and hell drider in priority , army talents , hoarder , snowbeast and saber , helldrider when you can p5s , try to get atleast bon and bunny ( spending token durinh halo weeks will help you with that )

[potent crown]

Was p5 mentioned in his question. And you basically listed all the p4 when he asked which to work on first. He didn't ask order he just needed one straight

[light vortex]

Hoarder - max out payday (equivalent to 3 gold jewel chests for every 3 days)
Saberfang - hunting ground skill (can kill lvl 3 monster in 5 to 6 hits)
Hell drider - 15k t4 for every 3 days

[cyan rock]

Thank you 😊

[cyan rock]

Thank you for knowledge i will do in future

[cyan rock]

Ok brother

[idle hemlock]

I have most familiars maxed out, including saberfang, but I have never figured out how to use fang’s power properly, I click use then I do not see what I need to do next lol, I only ever use mirage realm to hunt and I do not see any difference anywhere to actually use the 15 hunts in a row. Can you explain for me? It makes me feel like a noob all over again 😂😂😂

[light vortex]

Saberfang max skill gives 15 hunts, more hunts = more dmg will be done to monster

[sage reef]

good for killin lvl 5 monstors tbh

[potent crown]

Gives 15 max hunts. Best used for high level monsters like lv 4 or 5 cuz normally if with 50k energy hitting 15 times does x amount of damage then activating saberfang skill and using x1 when hunting will give the damage as compared to hitting 15 times without skill

Best bet is to use with full energy to get maximum benefits not 1x

[lime tree]

[small pier]

Does anyone know if they still sell Huey Hops familiar packs or if they ever did?

[gray beacon]

They obviously do

[lone rapids]

Check out packs in lords mobile, you may find out

[small pier]

Ok, I will look thanks.

[mild rose]

Hello everyone in all familiar skill attack names with one is more stronger then others.Give me one name pls tq

[viscid pelican]

first

[upper moat]

second

[glossy zodiac]

third, these feel a bit derivative

[viscid pelican]

Some useful links
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nn5OEgXyeVeiGSQsgEYyoiw0KCMPNAyT9N5zB6QMj-4/edit#gid=0
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/401534959225012246/601521229492387932/image0.jpg?width=877&height=676
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XkLkDhh3tjml40TXo0Qx744y72ULl-L2ZTWAH3UWkoc/edit#gid=196919334
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/601017890120007691/601323286902603796/unknown.png
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1XkLkDhh3tjml40TXo0Qx744y72ULl-L2ZTWAH3UWkoc/edit#gid=1265266704

[twin moon]

fourth

hell ye

[loud condor]

If there are 2 p2p familiars you will purchase, what will they be? Assuming you do not yet specialise in any troop type.

[twin moon]

blackwing is onefor me

[viscid pelican]

huey

it has the most useful ability

[twin moon]

is that leader escape one

[viscid pelican]

yup

[twin moon]

ok

[loud condor]

Thanks, huey unique escape ability is indeed very attractive.

And for cav, is frostwing or gargantua better?

[glossy zodiac]

huey is only good if you're a lead and do risky rallies

[normal timber]

Frostwing for sure. Only rely on Gargantua if you aren't going to increase your Infantry and Ranged ATK.

[alpine citrus]

nice

[sonic bane]

Paid familiar are super strong🤣 🤣

[loud condor]

Yeah, the blackwing & frostwing are quite spectacular to watch in battle.

[plain void]

All famulus lv60

[velvet current]

What is the best familiar?

[glossy zodiac]

depends on what you're looking for

[ornate barn]

We need new f2p familiars

[wise hare]

I want to see phantom knight or undead ogre or terrorthorn

Why don't we have terrorthorn yet

Terrorthorn was in the familar update awakening loading screen before the new t5 loading screen fighting with troops yet they aren't available

[oblique rune]

Is drown out worth it as a c17?

I have it level 50 but can not upgrade yet because i do not have enough runes

I am unlocking pact 3 right now

Even tho i haven’t even gotten 1familiar elder

[tame blade]

Drown out?

It's worth getting aquiris elder. After that I skipped to pact 3

[sonic bane]

F2P build familiar Aquiris Pyris and Etc.

[normal timber]

Drown Out is very useful. Also don't forget other skills that are useful too like First Class, Fresh Air and Nether Quake. For Pact 3, the two skills I would recommend is Lucky Stars and Stroke of Fortune.

[wise hare]

Awuaris and territe are 2 familars I would suggest maxing assp

Territe gives extra merge speed which let's you make runes faster and nether quake so you should never have a fragment problem unless your super reckless at using them and awuaris gives free speeders and or helps you gold heroes

[lost surge]

I am working on hell rider to get free t4 troops

[tulip fern]

I recently AWAKENED GRIM REAPER - A BEAST!!! Hell Drider is almost an Elder, too.

[lost surge]

Nice work

[wise hare]

Wait grim reaper got an awakening?!

[loud condor]

Don't think so.

[upper imp]

Zz @sonic bane what familiars

[sonic bane]

Both main and titan not the one i post @upper imp since i have 42 complete familiar

Many i can recommend to you may ask what might you are now? @upper imp

[upper imp]

That makes you almost 1.5 billion might @sonic bane

@sonic bane I am just 60 million might 😥

[sonic bane]

@upper impoh i see i suggest to you to raise your aquiris

Aquiris is the best familiar both F2P or P2P

Btw it will depend on you cause i have 3 gym training

[upper imp]

I will try to raise 1

[sonic bane]

Try to use 1-2 gym if you already complete the free heroo

[upper imp]

I have one gym,1 spring,,,,The rest are spires,,,,,You see I need the runes and fragments

[upper moat]

🤔 That sounds unwise

You don't get any benefit from additional spires other than not having to merge pacts every 3h assuming you're doing pact 1 right now

[sonic bane]

@upper impthat not good 1 tower is enough

@upper impyou need more anima producer when you going unlock facts level 3

[upper moat]

I used to run 5 gyms and 1 spire, but now I'm moving to no gyms, 1 spire, and all springs

[sonic bane]

@upper moatif 5 gym you need better equipment and hero to train fast

[upper imp]

I purchased lots of anima,,And I have spent last week merging pact 3 with all speed ups I had,,,,,

[upper moat]

🤔 I'm done training now

I just need fragments to level up abilities

[upper imp]

How many familiars @upper moat

[upper moat]

Literally all of them

[sonic bane]

My main only 221M might but i have 22 max familiar including level 4

42 the total familiar including the big 6

[upper moat]

I'm working on maxing blackwing active right now. Going to use it on cooldown so I can farm points at baron/emp

[sonic bane]

Blackwing yeah

@upper impall my building including gym are all level 25 except foundry since my 221M are not start t5 journey yet

[upper imp]

@upper moat if you need just fragments, Why not push for spires only for runes and fragments

@sonic bane Not all my buildings are lv 25

[upper moat]

You have faster merging speed with more springs...having more spires doesn't do anything for you

[upper imp]

My Academy isn't

[sonic bane]

Try them to reach level 24

Soon as possible

But yes you only use 1 tower you can increase that if you unlock level 3 facts magus

[upper imp]

Well majority are lv 25,,,,With few which aren't,,,But am stuck at with the prison,Battle hall and alter

I have 56 magus runes you attain enough for elder

[sonic bane]

Oh yeah that is the big problem when you unlock your 3 pit hole altar and etc

What you already unlock your level 3 facts

[upper imp]

Yes I unlocked pact 3

I am almost getting enough runes to make them elders then I will start training them

[sonic bane]

That good if you unlock try to focus in the big 3 familiar in facts level 3

Trickstar, gremlin and goblin

@upper imp

[upper imp]

Well,,,Their runes are coming slowly though

[sonic bane]

That you can earn holy star without buying package, earn gem and gold

I have last time 200K holy star wtf no jackpot in normal labyrinth

Now i have 500K plus hahahaha

[upper imp]

That's great,,,,,I have zero stars

I am hoping gremlin will boost my gems farming

[sonic bane]

That good

Later talk again see ya

[upper imp]

Byee

[loud condor]

@loud condor

[twin vortex]

Hi, i finally have my first familiar aquiris on elder, which familiar should be next?(i unlocked pact 3)

[wise hare]

I would suggest territe since your gonna be merging alot of packs in the future so that 20% speed up on merge adds up but if not I would suggest trickstar or gremlin

Personally I prefer trickstar but that's because his rng is kind to me so he usually gives me higher gem payout then gremlin via lab

[twin vortex]

Oh thanks

[plain void]

I saw you have run 5 gysm @upper moat ,i somewhere saw that having two gyms and 2 spires are enough. That's how I set up my buildings. I'm still pretty low still just pact 1 familiars. But I wonder now what your experience is. I think training 2 familiars in parallel is ok for now. But open for another recommendation

[upper moat]

I got more overall xp from 5 gyms, but I also have every hero and I needed the additional xp for training. You don't need 2 spires unless you don't plan on checking the game that often. I'm able to sit on 1 spire and only merge pacts once a day.

[glossy zodiac]

Hi, i finally have my first familiar aquiris on elder, which familiar should be next?(i unlocked pact 3)
Pact 3 fams

goblin/gremlin/trickstar^^

@twin vortex

[twin vortex]

Thanks!

[analog tundra]

Hey how much does it roughly cost to get blackwing

[upper moat]

Cost in terms of what?

[analog tundra]

Money lol

[upper moat]

Well, regardless of whether you do it through tokens or $5 blackwing packs, it's going to cost you around $220. You can reduce the cost by buying the pacts using points from chalice or if you get lucky in bargain store

[glossy zodiac]

then if you want it awakened it's obviously going to cost more

1,600? brilliant orbs more

if you want fast levels then even more

[upper moat]

If you're rolling tycoon, you don't need to worry about the xp

You'll have more than enough elixirs to max blackwing by the time you get the pacts

You'll also have enough for mythic tassets

[glossy zodiac]

[sonic bane]

Blackwing i have max both main and titan

[dusk igloo]

Level 1 familar are kinda nice for defence if you are a rally trap ( the attack familiars not the defence lol)

[bleak crescent]

How can I get those normal talent orbs easily (without spending money)?

[normal timber]

Normal Talent Orbs can be earned in hell events, kvk/gf, 24hr challenges, tycoon or cargo ship trades. It's also often found in your log-in gifts too.

[glossy zodiac]

How can I get those normal talent orbs easily (without spending money)?
Do hell events, there are even notifs for orbs

or yo could buy them with gems

[paper burrow]

How do I activate familiars, I have several of them already and level 20 but I don't know how to activate them

I upgraded them to adult too

[viscid pelican]

what do you mean activate

[glossy zodiac]

How do I activate familiars, I have several of them already and level 20 but I don't know how to activate them
You mean awaken? Or use the skills?

if you mean awaken then that only becomes possible at elder

[night tapir]

@paper burrow you probably want to get them to elder and level 60 if possible. But take some time to read through all the skills and talents in each one (even the ones you don't have yet) so you choose carefully which ones you want to focus on. Don't waste resources and time leveling up a familiar that you don't ultimately need

[jolly nova]

@sonic bane spreading fake news again lul

still flexing on that fake account baby

My main only 221M might but i have 22 max familiar including level 4
@sonic bane i thought your main has max gears? what is this?

https://discordapp.com/channels/668740845918355456/705341966283571293/705420111468560426 the one you posted is over 900 mil might buddy

https://discordapp.com/channels/668740845918355456/700836222557487104/705287639896555592

come again? did you bite your tongue?

[sonic bane]

@jolly novanothing

[jolly nova]

wheres your real ss to your real account if you have blackwing max

lets see lets see

or are u done flexing?

[sonic bane]

Secret

[jolly nova]

oh Secret now?

[sonic bane]

I never reveal

[jolly nova]

its not some random old friend giving you your acct?

OH REALLy so why u flexing to begin with?

[sonic bane]

But yes i have titan give by old friend but not the one i post

[jolly nova]

so you 221 mil might with max familiars and gears

FUNNY af

[dusk igloo]

@sonic bane flex hard on his ass lol

[jolly nova]

if it was a secret why were u spamming three channels on accoutn seller ss?

@dusk igloo he cant flex cos hes talkign out of his ass

if only he could flex

[sonic bane]

221M i have 23 max familiar including blackwing

[jolly nova]

this guy got a pea brain when it comes to lying

yeah sure totally. and i got a mythic champ at 100 mil might

nice one buddy

[sonic bane]

I know you got me in that account selling

[jolly nova]

so you are a blantant liar. why continue to lie?

you still flexing when u dont have anything.

[sonic bane]

Nothing in your business

[jolly nova]

and u cant even ss a blackwing in your accoutn

bc its a "secret" then why say u have it

lul

[dusk igloo]

You can tho ..... in fact a stupid crazy p2p guy got a mythic champ + maybe a p2p hero ( don't really remember) before the k opened

[jolly nova]

nemo of course u can! but shes saying she has it and flexing but apparently its a "secret"

[dusk igloo]

He quit now ...

[jolly nova]

then why even point it out?

[dusk igloo]

We won a dn essence 21 with only 1M troops

[jolly nova]

if u search her history she spamming ss of her familiars on three channels yet its now a "secret" bc i called her out on using account selling ss

[dusk igloo]

I will just flix about that

[jolly nova]

so she has no 221 mil might accoutn with max familiars

[dusk igloo]

You shouldn't do that selling accounts shouldn't be in this server

[jolly nova]

apparently alice cant show a ss of a 221 mil might accout with a p2p famliar max bc its such a big secret yet she wants to flex all day

how ironic

[sonic bane]

Oh come on i have 23 max familiar not including the familiar battle

[jolly nova]

then show it @sonic bane

i can say i have full champ as well

[sonic bane]

Nothing i can't reveal i don't care to you

[jolly nova]

no one wants to care about you either @sonic bane just stop flexing when u dont have shit

its that simple

[viscid pelican]

[sonic bane]

Oh come on

[jolly nova]

dont come on me. u sound like a elementary student getting caught lying and blaming everyone else for being calle dout

[sonic bane]

I don't care about in my last send

[jolly nova]

no one wants to care about you either. just stop lying simple

[sonic bane]

Nothing your business

[jolly nova]

literally aut lying still today

[sonic bane]

So what now

[jolly nova]

shut up

simple

[sonic bane]

Why not you the shut up

[jolly nova]

i would shut up if you stop lying

simple

when have u seen me talk besides when u lie?

LUL

[sonic bane]

Oh come on

[jolly nova]

stop begging me like a child seriously

[sonic bane]

Oh really

Im not begging

[jolly nova]

oh come on oh come on? like what is this?

[sonic bane]

Hmm

[jolly nova]

what are u going through all your line chat and wechat moments to see if u can find a 221 mil might acct with max familiars lmfao

come on buddy u can buy one for less than 1k and take a ss and refund. probs better flexing that what u are doing now

[dusk igloo]

Lol

[sonic bane]

Oh not really i didn't open yet my wechat

I don't care anymore of you don't believe

[jolly nova]

no one believes u. i jsut care because u are spreading lies. everytime u lie i will call you out. enjoy your "flex" buddy

[viscid pelican]

objective morality is for children

prescriptive egoist gang

[jolly nova]

dokke u shoudl pin ss of alice lying so everyone knows

[dusk igloo]

Lmao

[jolly nova]

this is how you "flex"

[viscid pelican]

i think thats a little far

[jolly nova]

ill spam it everytime she comments then

no problem!

[viscid pelican]

but you two have fun

[jolly nova]

make a macro for it

[sonic bane]

Oh who care about pin me @jolly nova

[jolly nova]

you care tats all that matters

[dusk igloo]

You guys know that this is a war game right? Stop talking and start sending cords ( 212 can migrate easily)

[dire zealot]

Hmm thank god doke is busy here

[jolly nova]

i gotta make drama since worthy is mia

@dire zealot

[dire zealot]

[jolly nova]

alice hits hard too with her/his imaginary 221 mil might max familiar account

[dire zealot]

I think im in RR fam and crim fam

Atleast i think

[jolly nova]

recruit her @dusk igloo

[dusk igloo]

Lol

[dire zealot]

And i was covered by sugar fam

[dusk igloo]

Fam !!

[sonic bane]

@jolly novaso what now

[jolly nova]

[dire zealot]

Fam is gucci gang

[dusk igloo]

You want to join us Alice? Lol

[sonic bane]

Nothing to join i already join in wang guild

[jolly nova]

yeah she got all the requirements. she probs have godl sigils too!

221 mil might with sigil tree done

[sonic bane]

221 mil might with sigil tree done
@jolly nova i didn't said that lol

[dusk igloo]

@jolly nova she did it after doing the T5 tree

[jolly nova]

yeah and all trees done

1 bil research done but only 221 mil might

[dusk igloo]

She is a forest now