👾┊familiars

[dusky vortex]

Acquiris is cheap

You should up him first

[foggy crystal]

Gryphon

[clear linden]

For defense, what familliars are good?

[waxen ravine]

When we can get familiar

[untold prawn]

Beat skirmish 8

[ebon hemlock]

On what should I focus? Rn I am making pacts for pirys and while I do that I want to max trickstar, gremlin and goblin

[untold prawn]

Go gremlin first then trickster and goblin last

If you unlock pact 4 then go for hoarder it’ll help with jewels

[ebon hemlock]

Should I first focus on any other lvl 3 familiar or should I start going for 4?

[untold prawn]

Not really pact 4 is more beneficial for growth

Unless it’s for war there is some pact 3 fams that might help

[ebon hemlock]

Which are?

I am not rly interested in war for now

And well I guess 1 fam for war would be nice cause rn I only have 1 slot for fam

[untold prawn]

Moleshama repairs wall and gives 10 extra inf atk

Trickster gives 10 extra range attack

Norceous 10 cav

Trickster gremlin and goblin good for blasts

Gryphon can be good

Technically all pact 3 can be used for war

[ebon hemlock]

Rn i have aquirys

[untold prawn]

You just want what gives best skills for now though army talent can be saved for later

Aquarius and evil weevil good for your wall

[ebon hemlock]

What about darkness

[untold prawn]

You’ll want specific fams for each troop type put trickster gremlin goblin in their respective troop type with Aquarius and gryphon or evil weevil

You could do better but then it’ll just become costlier

[open sand]

[fathom adder]

As f2p for war
After maxing the stackers and gryphon what to focus on?flat 15%atk?

[dusky vortex]

60%ones are a good choice

And shield fams

[indigo imp]

Grim reaper familiar can kill t5?

[leaden geyser]

Yes

[verbal nimbus]

What the hellfire skill of blackwing do

[short kestrel]

Well The Cooldown Time: 1h
Your Invading Troops will automatically kill 100% of your enemy's Wounded Troops (includes
Garrisoned Troops and Allied Troops).
Effective within 30 mins, (so you gotta attack the castle before the 30 minutes is up) good for 1 battle only. 1 hour latter you can use the support skill again.
Requires Familiar Lv 60

[dusky vortex]

It kills all soldiers no wounded troops to heal in a battle

[valid lagoon]

L

[verbal nimbus]

Damn... That's powerful

[dusky vortex]

Costly too

[tough grail]

Hi

😆

[mystic shore]

Day 47 of kingdom 1291, got my first blue pact 5 familiar.

(Guild chat is outdated, dont warn me mods. The target is already zeroed and he moved.)

[tribal hazel]

Nice

Why would mods care about your guild chat tho

[mystic shore]

i saw that they warned some people for showing guild chat.

[brazen ore]

For what people say in there guild chat

[mystic shore]

Oh alr then i'm fine haha

[woven oracle]

Is Trickstar the first familiar everyone should have?

[untold prawn]

No, Aquarius makes more sense since it’s in pact 1 plus trickstars army talent is usually only used in ranged blasts

[woven oracle]

So Aquarius is good for p1 but I am p3 and love that research boost from Trickster. So maybe Aquarius and Trickstar together?

[rocky night]

if you want ,pact 3 are perfect for turf and army stats ,where each of them have army stats and gold,gem,stars and gathering skills

go with aquirius which can give drown out skill which gets upgraded to max with less orbs than pact 3 and helps in reducing enemy's army stats

[woven oracle]

I'll train them together thx ya'll

[inner warren]

for an aspiring rally trap how many familiar slots is necessary and which familiars should we focus on?

[untold prawn]

3 or 4 probably

Not sure on familiars not my specialty

[inner warren]

Aww ok

[dusky vortex]

3 okay

[inner warren]

can u advise which fams suit rally trap?

[tribal hazel]

3 are fine

[tribal hazel]

It depends on how big your comp is and if you're F2P or not. For standard big comp f2p I would say army hp fan, army ho debuff and then a hp debuff based on what your frontline is

That's the bare minimum

[inner warren]

can i dm u if ur free to help me with this topic?

[tribal hazel]

Sure

[inner warren]

chk dm lol

[ripe venture]

Best fam except aquaris to send in March which works for each and every troop?

[dusky vortex]

Evil weevil , gryphon , tempestite

[ripe venture]

Gryphon already ongoing , evil weel will do so after aquiris gonna be max

[echo zenith]

Which Familiars to put on wall ? For defending ?

[verbal nimbus]

Which familiars do you have

[weak sonnet]

How many spring ; mystic spire and gym should I build as a new player....

[formal forge]

Best familier to upgrade in pact 4

[tribal hazel]

Hoarder is a great one. It gives 3 jewels every 2d I think. You can get lucky and get some nice jewels out of it

Overall tho I think Hell Drider is the best one

[tribal hazel]

My setup is 1 spire 2 gyms and the rest full springs

[tribal hazel]

Depends on how big your comp is. Overall I think Hearty Feast , acquarius are a safe bet

[leaden geyser]

I guess. I don't remember the last time I got even a purple atk.

[tribal hazel]

Yeah same I got a cav purple a few weeks ago. Even tho that's the only time I got anything better than a blue I still got quite a few greens and blues

[weak sonnet]

Thanks 🌹

[tribal hazel]

Yw

[analog gull]

what should i put as my wall fams out of the 5 for now? (rally trap)

sorry if the pictures is considered spamming, i just wanted everyone to see what the boosts were 🙂

[tribal hazel]

If you're a rally trap I'm assuming your big is quite big so stacking familiars are basically useless. Go for Drown Out, Hearthy Feast and a debuff fam based on what your frontline is

[analog gull]

so if i go inf frontline usually for example, use a range debuff fam?

or cav?

[young crypt]

Stacking familiars are not useless. Yes, stacking fam wouldn't be of use if you're online & able to counter the enemy rally troop type.. But, if you're offline(say when you go to sleep) it would be better to use Stacking familiar of your frontline troop type.. So that when you get countered by a maxed account you have best chance to not get zeroed. Because, when the Stacking fams get activated, you will definitely destroy their army & more chances of capping rallies even when offline.

Also, judging by his familiar levels, those p1, p2 familiars which aren't maxed won't help much.

[young crypt]

You won't be able to change your familiars & your frontline at a time when under attack.. Bcz you literally have like 5 seconds to swap... So, best to use familiars that support all troop type or the frontline you mostly use. Aquiris, Weevil are good.. But, you need to focus on 1 familiar a t a time, max one first, then move onto next familiar.

[analog gull]

thank you 🙂

[plain void]

How should I focus familiars if i just unlocked them and I'm F2P

In what order

[lusty magnet]

[plain void]

Juuuuu

[dusky vortex]

Acquiris should be your first go to fam. It gives stamina which helps you in upgrading your heroes

By the time you will max it I think you can unlock pact 3.

Then trickstar, gremlin, goblin should be your preference

In pact 2 you can do totempest for free cargo deals and bonehead for extra colloseum entries.

Pact 4 should be hoarder, hell drider, saberfang

She is good can do after doing your pact 3 fams

But she is a waste when your vip is max .

[small dock]

Harpys good i got a 5k drop once( my account is just 2 1/2 months old i unlocked her not even one month ago i think

[wraith summit]

Hi all

Can anyone help me to set up a 424 please?

[buoyant solstice]

How many troops ? T4 t5?

[wraith summit]

Just heroes and familiars please

[dusky vortex]

1 inf hero 2 rng 2 cav

[wraith summit]

Thank you 😊

[steel fable]

how many orbs needed to max garg familiar

[old breach]

Hello

👀👀👀

IGG ID: 1109684481

[grave thicket]

zombie no. 139

[dusky vortex]

1600

[lofty saddle]

what is the cheapest amount you can max a p5 for?

[grizzled steppe]

Free if you wait long enough

[dusky vortex]

Use bogo on it

[formal forge]

PACT 4 which one is best for grow

[dusky vortex]

Hoarder

[rocky night]

saberfang,hoarder for turf ,grim and maggot if you are rich with gems to make skillstones

[dusky vortex]

I'd do hell drider before grim and maggot

[rocky night]

all of them are good

[dusky vortex]

Some are better for growing. Some doesn't help in growing

[rocky night]

i know em

[dusky vortex]

I own them

[rocky night]

:sus:

[cosmic drift]

Good pull?

[dusky vortex]

Decent it depends on what you want

[cosmic drift]

Everyone except tempestite

[dusky vortex]

Yeah than a good pull

[deft hornet]

Is jade wyrm good for defending?

[dusky vortex]

Yes

[formal forge]

Pact open trick please

[mighty perch]

Depends on speed you want it done. I know for fairly sure yellow orb side will cost $320. Hard to get these easily. something like 34m t4 need boosting for the hell events so its really a p2p thing. To get the pacts around $300 with $5 packs. Will take a while but will save a fortune. You need a few p5 too. Around $3k-$3.5k slow mode for all the ones you need.
How much doing it in say a month i have no idea but i suspect the numbers jump up a fair bit, you would also have to factor in raising p5 level too.

[mighty perch]

Open more lolz

[tardy parrot]

Usually you only get it on bogo so it becomes 160$ cost

[mighty perch]

Well added point. Forgot that lolz

[small dock]

Bogo?

[tardy parrot]

Finally bogo came and this is maxed

[rocky night]

i didn't even recruit it

[tardy parrot]

[rocky night]

[ebon hemlock]

Is it worth upgrading Trickstar/Gemming Gremling/Goblin Army Talent?

[ebon hemlock]

And what familiars should I upgrade Army Talent?

[small dock]

Get all the 3 stacking fams(the 3 u mentioned above) then u can get the gryphon(200% army atk when u lose 10% of ur troops )

Then p4s and p5s idk

[inner warren]

for rally trap... i heard 3 familiar slots is a must, i have maxed aquiris and evil weevil but for third slot whats good being a range frontline magus or trickstar which one should i max?

[dusky vortex]

Magus

Activates early

[versed gate]

How many luck tokens would I need to get max bunny medals in tycoon?

[light blade]

what is better for Infantry Blast?
Option A: Gryphon, Gemming Gremlin, Tempestite, and Mole Shamman or
Option B: Gryphon, Gemming Gremlin, Engineer, and Mole Shamman?

[mighty perch]

If i was, as an example a darknest 6 that has lots of range i would use tempesite. If i was hittjng a mix comp i would probably go for engineer as tempesite is less effective on balanced mix comp.

[chrome osprey]

💵

[light blade]

Lovely

[dusky vortex]

Dam! Bro just what you did

[leaden geyser]

That seem like more than a million gems on reaper lol

[ebon hemlock]

Did you kill someone's family???

[vestal rose]

What would the best non p5 fams for wall be as a rally trap?

[daring kayak]

Family

[junior pagoda]

What do I try to max first, Bon or Drider? Mostly for soloing or maybe defending with my 1.5mil troops lol

[dusky vortex]

If you can handle the cost then bon

[dusky vortex]

I think 5% fam (magus/noceros/mole shaman are great. And evil weevil

[dusky scroll]

Best non p5 fams for mixed or wonder rallys? (Assuming some 424 variant)

[dusky vortex]

Gryphon, stackers, tempestite, shield fams

[fathom adder]

Hello boys

I've maxed all 3 stackers, now what to use red orbs on?

[tardy vigil]

Full maks army talent

[dusky vortex]

5% ones magus/mole shaman/noceros

[dusky vortex]

What's better to put Snow beast or magus in a 442 march

I think snow beast but what about when beast is lvl 7 and magus is maxed

[supple zenith]

O shi you will get 100 gems in stumble guys

But

[untold prawn]

What should be my 4th fam on wall(f2p)? Currently have evil weevil, aquiris, and gryphon

[untold prawn]

Gryphon thinking about changing too so need 2 fams

[dusky vortex]

60atk/hp fams

[dusky vortex]

Only first one

Second one is a bit useful in attacking but not much

[viscid elm]

I am new so what are familiars

[native epoch]

Is it worth it to max fresh air, t1 any good has buffers?

Which is more important to max out first : convocation or kiss of death ?

[grizzled steppe]

The free t1s might be nice early on when you don't have many troops, but I usually just delete anything but siege that I get from it now.

And convocation is definitely better...

Kiss of death might be fun to use once in a while, but VERY expensive to make the skillstones.

[molten cliff]

.

[native epoch]

I don’t have millions of troops , I have been playing less than 3 months. So should I keep all till I have a decent amount of t4

And thanks

[grizzled steppe]

yeah, probably wouldn't hurt to keep them for now...you probably shouldn't be trying to take too many attacks anyway until you have a decent amoubt of troops.

[native epoch]

I don’t yet attack, waiting on free t4 lol 😝

Thanks you for the advise

Does the core stones ever come in a package? I have yet to see them

Chaos core stones I meant, I have 48 but not sure 🤔 how I got them

[echo field]

Yeah free t1 is nice every time cause they add like 0 might and still buffer a bit so if u get them for free everything is fine but i wouldn’t recommend training them as buffer

[untold prawn]

Hell drider

[abstract lily]

Someone post the best familiar gear

[dusky vortex]

It's only 1 you don't have choice in it

[dusky vortex]

Cool gems

[nimble raptor]

haha, been saving them for a while

[native epoch]

I'm doing a Happy Dance 💃

[echo field]

Nice

[leaden geyser]

It mostly gives Siege lol

[icy stag]

Which familiar should be put on wall? Till pact 3 level

[dusky vortex]

60 hp/atk ones and weevil and acquiris

[icy stag]

Ok, thanks

I was using a stacking attack monsters

[shut saddle]

getting there 🥰

[gritty frigate]

dawg how u got gryphon before trickstar or gemming

[untold prawn]

I do have them they just don’t go on wall

[gritty frigate]

gryphon bad for wall too bro

[untold prawn]

I know that’s why I want to change it

[gritty frigate]

evil weevil, aquiris, and probably the fams like yeti and terrorspike that u can swap for defense depending on what they send

[untold prawn]

I can’t bother with switching I’m just gonna forget 90% of the time

[sharp sage]

Open around 4000 c'est for make on gold
That verry less

[nimble raptor]

What are the best 5 familiars to focus for taking rallies? I have 3 slots on wall

[jade stump]

depends on troop comp

are you building a solo rally trap? or a multi-rally trap?

[nimble raptor]

kinda solo only, or max 2, in case i get rallied in fury so I can have a chance to cap, comp 6m each t2, 1,5m each t4 and 250k each t5

[jovial glacier]

is hell drider hard to get and upgrade for f2p?

[dusky vortex]

Yep

Not hard to get but hard to upgrade it's battle skill

[jovial glacier]

ok. thanks

[vestal rose]

#🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat

[jovial glacier]

it isn't in english too, so few people will understand

[lone gate]

at what level are pact 5 bon appetti acceptable to have on wall? Let’s say instead of a -40% hp debuff fam for example

[dusky vortex]

Lvl 1

I guess

[wild ginkgo]

which of these familiars should i prioritise or all of them?

[dusky vortex]

Kinda

[dawn forge]

Guys

Best fams for rally trap can anyone tell me please

Fams for blast rallies and fams for mix rallied

[dusky vortex]

Acquiris/evil weevil and debuffs fams are good for wall

But against a mix rally you might need to do magus to boost your range

[dawn forge]

Ooh

Thanks bro

[lone gate]

Magnus and mole shaman

[fluid jolt]

what are these and what do they do

[ocean wadi]

On which pact should I focus and how many gym and other building of familiar should I form

[dusky vortex]

For early growing pact 1b(acquiris) mainly
And keep 1 gym 2 spires rest springs

[ocean wadi]

Familiar to win hight darkness rally

[plain void]

P3 fams.

[ocean wadi]

But they are taking so much time in gym currently have nearly 100 medal of each pact 3 familiar but their level is low !!! Any tip for that

[dusky vortex]

Gold heroes

[vestal rose]

Familiar gear and strong heroes. Only level 1 fam at a time is also primordial

[ocean wadi]

Which hero

[vestal rose]

The grade of the heroes you add into the training will improve the amount of exp the fam gets.
Doesn't matter what hero

Having 1 gym is mainly optimal because you can have max value training by putting all your heroes into the same training

[ocean wadi]

Ok bro thanks

[supple rivet]

What’s the best familiars to bring to battle. When your a range,cav base?

[dusky vortex]

Familars that give rng atk and cav atk

[uncut turret]

I am starting to find that (for DN in particular) I am not losing enough troops to activate the "once you have lost x% of your troops" familiars.
Should I just go with the ones that give boost at the start of the battle?

[dusky vortex]

Are you winning dns?

[uncut turret]

yus

[vestal rose]

Do more difficult dn's
More seriously, if they don't activate, that means you didn't need it here. So grinding a p1 fam to get 15% atk is a bit worthless.
You should focus on getting the 3 stacking fams (goblin, gremlin, trickstar) up.

And when they'll active it will be in more difficult war and they'll be infinitely stronger than the 15% ones

[ebon hemlock]

Hey, what familiars should I lvl up to put into battles? This is what I have rn and idk on what should I focus first

[limpid lava]

For defense or attack?

P2p or f2p

[ebon hemlock]

F2p mainly for both, as you can see I am just starting making familiar skills

[ebon hemlock]

Well actually I could spend a bit like I buy the monthly and weekly diamond sub every time but I am looking to spend that more on heroes and gear upgrade rn

[limpid lava]

Gemming gremlin, trickstar, and gold goblin, and gryphon are the best investment for attack familiars with aquarius being a decent option for attack as well

Mole shaman, magus, and evil weevil are the best investment for defense familiars with Aquarius being a decent option.

Noceros has the same ability as mole shaman and magus, but because it is for cav it’s not as good cause no one defends in a cav formation.

This is mainly for f2p keep in mind

[vestal rose]

How many of each counter stat can you get from an adult wyrm?

[ebon hemlock]

I am also curious about that

[ebon hemlock]

What should I prioritise? Rn I only have 1 slot for familiar skill but I am planning to unlock more in the near future

Mainly should I start by unlocking all those at lvl 1 or unlock 2-3 and upgrade it for a few lvls and should I first start with the ones for offensive or defensive?

[vestal rose]

Depends on your account

[limpid lava]

10.5 inf-range
10.5 range-cav

[limpid lava]

^

[vestal rose]

Thanks

[ebon hemlock]

As far as I know Gremlin, trickstar and goblin each is for a type of troop, so later on when I will have more fam slots what should I go for? And is it better to lvl up one skill to the max or at a certain lvl or first unlock more skills then lvl up them together?

[vestal rose]

All depends on your account.. again

Also on what your objective is.

[limpid lava]

I’d recommend 1 at a time

[ebon hemlock]

And what would be the best way to get talent orbs? And what packs are worth getting?

[limpid lava]

Spending and I’m not heavy p2p so #💵┊packs Would be of more help

[dusky vortex]

F2p ways are hell events/cargo ship/exchange extravaganza/guild fest/kvk

[ebon hemlock]

Ty

[spare topaz]

Guys should I upgrade p2a fams or max P4 fams than later do them?
Please help anyone

[limpid lava]

Depends on the account and how much money you can spend

[spare topaz]

I'm f2p

Currently no pact 2a fams
And hoarder maxed from p4

[vestal rose]

Max the highest pacts you have open

The higher pact fams are the most worth it

[fair sorrel]

At what level of castle is one able to use familiar skills?
I have familiars but don't know how to use them

[nimble raptor]

you need lvl 50+ on the familiar and stage elder

[fair sorrel]

Ohh ok thanks

[dusky scroll]

For a range blast, is shield fam better than magus? Or better question maybe is, assuming no p5 or hell drider, what are the best to use?

[quartz geode]

For range: stacking fam, shield fam, 60% atk and 60% hp fam, and gryphon probably

[limpid lava]

I think he’s asking if the 60% atk 60% hp (magus) is better or worse than shield fam (snow beast) for a range blast if you can only use one

[shy python]

There's no definite comparison between the two. It comes down to choice of preference.

1. For a maxed rally lead or a mythic champ in general, attack is already sufficiently high. So a shield fam is better for their blasts.
2. For an avg player with attack stats in the 600-800s range, 60% attack/60% hp is a good choice since they're still needing to bridge that gap.
   Again there is no predefined threshold which when crossed we can make this decision. You can always just test out on camps with a guildmate or friend to see what works for you 🙂

[rustic rune]

So it’s better to go for the 60atk/60rng over the stacker?

[vestal rose]

Shield fam =/= stacker

[rustic rune]

I didn’t mention shields fam

[vestal rose]

He does.

[rustic rune]

As in my question is 60atk/60rng better then stacker?

[vestal rose]

The whole logic of what he said is
Weaker blasts need more atk so the 60/60 is better than the shield fam
With this I am gonna let you think
Is a 100% atk boost that stacks better or worse than a 60/60% boost

[rustic rune]

Because most would go for the stack and shield

Rather then 60/60 + shield

[rustic rune]

It’s debatable cause people are emphasising the need for both balance in atk and hp now

Hence my question back to you, which is better iyo

[vestal rose]

The stacking fam every single day would be better (when attacking)

[shy python]

Stacker first always. I'm assuming the question I answered referred to the situation where the person already has stacker fam

[bright haven]

i am claiming gf rewards which familiar i should work on first among blackwing,queen bee and jade wyrm... ? I am more confused between wyrm and blackwing.. but its also important to consider which pacts do we get easily vs which we don't...

[shy python]

Jade will be slow. Only packs and GF are the option. Blackwing you can get from exchange, bargain store etc as well.
So now you have to weigh counters vs the passive stats you get from Blackwing once it's level 60.
Point to consider - are you a low spender/f2p and defending/ small solo attacks will be your focus? If yes then jade is better. You get decent amount of counters even at adult stage.

[bright haven]

Thanks for your suggestion. I am a low spender f2p so ill go with wyrm...

Also you mean to say lvl5 pact familar are actually paid/p2p ? And cannot be obtained thru merging ?

[dusky vortex]

Bon/blackwing/garg/frostwing/bee/bunny/jade
These are paid fams . Although all of them are available in gf rewards

Bee/frostwing/bunny are easier to max as they also come in bargain store in chest of pacts.

Blackwing/bon/garg also comes in bargain but occassionaly .

[shy python]

level 5 basically refers to the rarity of the familiar. there are some f2p level 5 rarity familiars like grim reaper, mecha trojan, tidal titan, hell drider. They can be obtained via pact 4 merging. But there are not so useful in battles (atleast at your level) other than the skills you can max using fragments.

Then there are some PACT5 familiars, which you will usually see with people who spend money. Those are as rudraksh has mentioned and can be obtained either via packs or GF/bargain store.

[bright haven]

Thanks a lot for the info guys 🙂

[plain void]

Is Gryphon's tailwind worth of getting yellow orbs?

[dusky vortex]

Yea

[icy lily]

Anyone else or are familiar pacts bugged?

I can't get the rare ones for pact 1B anymore

Opened almost a 100 and nothing

[limpid lava]

You have sucky luck keep trying and you will get something

[icy lily]

I figured that was it tbh

Was never this hard on my main though

[limpid lava]

Once you get used to the luxuries of big castles everything feels harder on smaller castles

[plain void]

For f2ps also?

[dusky vortex]

He is not much useful when it comes to defending. But he's useful in all marches

[shy python]

Yes for attacking players, DNs, forts, gryphon is a useful familiar

[echo field]

Yeah its one of the top f2p fams and to get him out of pacts is not sooo hard

[untold prawn]

What’s the best 4 f2p fams for wall

[shy python]

Mole shamam and magus are useless if your comp is big

I personally prefer to use either aquarius and evil weevil. If not these then the -40% HP for each type (terraspike, magmalord, jaziek). They're passive stats that are helpful for the entire 40 seconds of the battle

[limpid lava]

True I was mainly assuming medium sized comp but you’re absolutely correct

[plain void]

Which familiar comp is better for defense?( trp comp : 3m glad, 3m reptillian riders, 3m t3 rng)-

1. Gemming gremlin, trickstar, Goblin
2. Magus, shaman, Noceros
   Plz lemme know if there's better comp that these & why are better

[flat girder]

0

[shy python]

I'm assuming that's a solo trap comp and you're going to be range front ,(wedge I suppose) by default, then magus, aquarius, evil weevil are a good choice

[plain void]

Plz tell also which option of me is better

[plain void]

Yes, it's a solo trap

[shy python]

Neither. In both only 1 fam will work at a time. So both are bad options

[plain void]

Ok

Thanks, LM expert

😄

[pearl hound]

Hi

[hushed void]

Hlo

Anyone know how to get familiar attack

[limpid lava]

Pyris, mega maggot, grim reaper, Bon appetite, queen bee, and frostwing all have the ability to attack another castle in some shape or form with their elder abilities

[hushed void]

Ok

[shy python]

That's about 32m troops. So I'd use something that gives passive stats right from the beginning of the battle. Aquarius, evil weevil, terraspike, magmalord, jaziek are good options. The other familiars that have conditions like lose 10% troops etc, will not be very effective.
As for the level to use them at, these familiars mentioned are easy to upgrade so you should get them to level 10 easily. Some also use 60%attack60%hp fam, but that's only useful for the frontline. So say you're going to always be range wedge, then you can consider using magus as well

[jolly sun]

if you have it range shield is nice in case you get rallied with mix

[nimble raptor]

Thank you for info

[uncut turret]

I noticed you did not mention Engineer, Gnome or Yeti, which give 15% Inf/Range/Cav respectively. Is there a reason for this?

[shy python]

When you're defending and already have a decent mix like 500+, that 15% won't be much of an addition. But the HP will help a lot for your troop's survival

[uncut turret]

another possibly inane question. Which is more important to go for, 4th Familiar Battle Slot or Military Counter Research?
T5 is already achieved.

[limpid lava]

Counters

[uncut turret]

ok, thanks. They seem to be the #1 priority for everyone.

[plain void]

IGG ID 523706983

[limpid lava]

They’re just so useful to have

[uncut turret]

another zombie. lost track of the count.

[shy python]

Counters always like no one confirmed

[weak jackal]

Which is better t5 fam on wall or t5 troop ?

[shy python]

Depends on your comp if pact 5 fams is even a good option for your wall or not. If your troop composition is too big, they are irrelevant

[plain void]

Ok

[hushed quail]

What is best spending on bee helmet to mythic + getting forstwing fam OR gargantua fam?

For my cav blast

[dusky vortex]

Get all of this slowly.

[hushed quail]

Yeah but what should I do first

Bc now there is the bee helmet material + forstwing on tycone

[lone gate]

Is it worth saving for 1 pact 5 max, let’s say bon appetti (will probably buy a couple packs to get the remaining yellow orbs). Or max out gryphon + maybe a shield fam

for rally traps

[dusky vortex]

Pact 5 is more useful tbh but if you can buy packs just slowly do all

[echo ruin]

What are your suggest familiar for a low spender or f2p rally lead, like pact 1-3 (3-4 familiar slot unlock)

Preferably for mix rally

[shy python]

you are asking in context to the f2p lead attacking with a mix rally or defending a mix rally?

[echo ruin]

Attacking, my guild is low on rally lead so i will make my acc to be one but i dont know the better familiar for it

[shy python]

Start with the 100% stacking familiars. Gemming Gremlin, Goblin and Trickstar. These will need bright talent orbs (red ones). Gryphon is another good one for attacking. It needs brilliant talent orbs (yellow ones)

[shy python]

These are basic for rally or solo based attack. They are useful even for p2p players

[echo ruin]

Noted, thanks for the response

[dusky vortex]

I see recently some leads not using the stackers even in blasts

And do noodle damage

[shy python]

Well if you're 1300% attack already, you can play around with fams as much as you want. But a 6-700% player, choosing to not use stacker is just dumb😂

[west blaze]

any changes to wall fams?

[untold prawn]

How big is your comp?

Gryphon, and I think tempesite, only activate when you lose 10% of your troops and depending on your comp size that can be millions of troops before it activates.

[shy python]

Like suqma said. Generally passive familiars skills are good. Like Evil Weevil you have already.

[jolly sun]

snowbeast is nice vs mix rallies

[lone gate]

is hell drider any good for wall

replacing these wall fams

pact 5 will take a while, and the other yellow orb fams doesn’t seem too good on wall. I’ll get Magnus and the range one that proc at 5%

[agile marsh]

Snow beast is only good for wall if your army is small

That fam takes 12% of troops to be lost before it activate

[jolly sun]

it takes 12% of your range

you need very fat comp to lose less than that vs a mix

or very very good gear

[agile marsh]

I would only change the terraspike if I were you the hell drider is not that good for defence

[jolly sun]

if you have less than 25m range and don't have champ gear it's very likely to activate

[agile marsh]

I have never lost 12% of range in 1 hit

And my gear is not that special

[lone gate]

will probably have around 20m army, building a rally trap

[jolly sun]

have you taken a mix rally from a max account ?

[lone gate]

this kvk won 3 rallies with only 4m army, just for fun

nah I’m in the building stage still

[jolly sun]

those usually do about 2-3m dmg into good comps

[lone gate]

very small now, but looking for a fam when finished building

probably around 600-700 when I finish comp and debuff

600-700m might

[agile marsh]

I have taken raily from really strong leads yes

[lone gate]

endgame familiar not for now if that make sense

[jolly sun]

I'm asking mix specifically

that's the one thing that fam is good for

[agile marsh]

Online defence is almost always mix so yes obviously

[jolly sun]

and never lost 12% of your range ?

[lone gate]

what would you guys swap with terraspike and Trickstar

I’m thinking maybe Magnus and sorcerer until I get bon appetti

[agile marsh]

No when my army is big I have mostly t4 so never lose to many troops at same time

And I rarely defend mix raily with range phal everyone use that better use inf wedge in my opinion

I would keep trickstar if I were you atleast untill your army really big

[lone gate]

need something to work towards and swap when finished build

but limited on orbs so can only have a few

I have a dumb theory not sure if it would work

[agile marsh]

When your army is not to big I would advise the stackers so trickstar goblin and gemming gremlin

What's your theory?

Those fams are also really good for atacking

[lone gate]

let’s say inf is my biggest group, and I defend in range phalanx. Will mole shaman proc anyways from enemy p5 damage

assuming I have 20m army

then I can maybe have both Magnus and mole shaman that proc at 5%

[agile marsh]

As long you know you wil defend in range phal then yes that would work

[lone gate]

yes unless countered

but most people send 848 anyways

[agile marsh]

Yea most people start with a mix raily

[lone gate]

then slowly max bon appetti from halo tycoon as I need to upgrade my cups regardless

but that will be endgame

[agile marsh]

Do you have any wall research?

[lone gate]

just a little bit but if wall is up will defend in inf phalanx

usually they break it when testing

[agile marsh]

If no I would advise to defend in inf wedge

[lone gate]

wedge over phalanx ?

actually yes that make sense thanks

[agile marsh]

When the wall is still there go range phal the range wil shoot from the wall then

Yeah the inf wedge is better somehow

What kingdom are you in now if I may ask?

[lone gate]

282

[agile marsh]

This used to be my comp

Dawm your in old kingdom I thought you were in new one

[lone gate]

I’m thinking 5m each t2, 2-3m each t4 which equals to about 20m

[agile marsh]

That wil cap pretty mutch any raily but also give 600 700m troop might

[agile marsh]

This was 450m troop might

[lone gate]

wait so much

let me re calculate lol

[agile marsh]

Yeah t4 give a lot of might

[lone gate]

I’m trying to stay as low as possible

[agile marsh]

T2 is 120m troop might
T4 is 432m troop might

So maybe my guess was a little on the high side

[lone gate]

found a preset 3,5m each t2 and 1,5m each t4 for 246m

but let’s say I build a little more 300-350m

[finite escarp]

[lone gate]

I think that should work, not really defending any max accounts — mostly low and mid

[agile marsh]

Normally you say 1m per t4 to survive a raily from 2m per t4 you can start to cap raily if the lead atacking is not to crazy ofc

[lone gate]

I’ll have max debuff and better gear as well, probably all gold jewels by then

[agile marsh]

Nice nice

[lone gate]

my goal is to stay below 700m

[agile marsh]

With the comp I sent the SS of I was capping not to strong leads but decent ones without a leader

[lone gate]

my base might is 300m, army will be 300m ish on top off that

[agile marsh]

And when I had my lead I capped the first 9raily when they offline me

[lone gate]

but is your frontline too small

[agile marsh]

My gear was about the same you have now

Yeah I should have gotten some more t2 then I would have survived a lot more raily

[lone gate]

damn we barely going over it debuff will add 120m

so it’ll be 720m

can train a little less and destroy buildings I guess

[agile marsh]

720m wil still get raily in the open kingdom

There people with 1b+ still get raily

[lone gate]

yea I think this setup will work

[agile marsh]

Yea it should work your gear looks oke and when you get that comp you want for sure

[lone gate]

sounds like a plan appreciate it

[agile marsh]

Yeah ofcourse

This is my comp now haha and people are still scared to raily me

[lone gate]

bro wanna see my comp during kvk

I got #1 solo war took 375k gangbang and 3 rallies

this was the aftermath tho had a little bit more

I’ve recovered to 3m+ t4 currently, so not missing too much t4 can start t2 boosting soon

[agile marsh]

Your comp looks oke indeed just need more t2

[lone gate]

yea after t4 I’ll boost

got lucky with rss, people who migrate usually donate to me lol

[agile marsh]

Yeah that's the best way to get rss haha

Sometimes it's the trick to keep on joining the guild that wil migrate next so you get a little more free rss haha

[lone gate]

or pretend to not have enough coins for migration scroll

[agile marsh]

Haha yeah you get it

So your also going for t5 or first have other research to worry about?

[west blaze]

16m

also i replaced gryphon with aquiris

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[vestal pine]

magus (60 % atk and hp for 15 seconds when 5% falls) or Trickster (100% atk when 10% falls) which one should be used for defending with large comps? like around 4-5m t2 each. i doubt if any of them will be good personally i use evil wevil aquaris and pyris on the wall. please enlighten me as f2p where should i put my red orbs to?

[lone gate]

replace pyris with Magnus

[shy python]

Out of the two, I've majorly seen people use magus only. Though if you look overall, I think snowbeast is better for a range front. Helps with mixed rallies too

For your comp and budget, magus is good👍

[mellow swan]

Can anyone explain the work of Hoarder , Saberfang in ear?

[uncut turret]

Would someone please clear up a technicality for me?
Saberfang Fam, L10 Hunting Ground skill "Adds 15 hunts in a row within 15 minutes".

If I use that, then attack a L3 monster, it takes a single march of 4 hits to kill it.
However, if I hit the same monster without Hunting Ground, it takes 10-12 hits in a single march. These two numbers are taken from hundreds of attacks on L3 monsters, using the same monster for both and the same hero lineup for both.

Does this mean that the hunts from Hunting Ground are not scaling, but are 15 x L1 hit damage?

[shy python]

No. Open a hunt report and scroll to the bottom. You'll see a stat called increased DMG. Every hit you do on monster, the DMG % increases for the next hit. What the saberfang skill does is that it jump starts your DMG. It takes you to the DMG you would otherwise get after 15 hits. So like I'm assuming when you hit a level 3 without it, your first hit goes for 8% or something. But when you use saberfang you're doing 20-25%. If you had continued hitting without skill, then your 15th hit would be capable of the same damage that your first hit with skill does.

The hunting grounds familiar skill is only associated with this DMG %

[uncut turret]

Ah, thank you, that makes complete sense.

[shy python]

No problem✌️

[mighty fiber]

is the weevil familiar good for f2p

15% increase army hp

[untold prawn]

Yes

[mighty fiber]

ok

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[fast monolith]

should i get evil weevil going or any tips; i’m essentially in end game w most p4s at 60 already

[untold prawn]

Is that your current wall setup?

[fast monolith]

yesss 😅 i’m admittedly clueless

[untold prawn]

Then yeah work on evil weevil

If your comp like 20m+ then you really wouldn’t see your current wall fams activating much if at all

[fast monolith]

tyty is weevil pretty good for attacking (in trial by fire) too?

[icy stag]

Is hell drider war skill worth opening or should I focus on other fams ?

[agile marsh]

The hell drider is only good for it's passive skills

[icy stag]

Ok, thanks

[shy python]

Other basic p5 would be a higher priority in my opinion if you don't have those already. For wonders, yes hell drider is good. Blast attacks, not so much. The regular set-up of 2 p5, stacker, shield, gryphon still works better in majority scenarios

[icy stag]

I don't have any P4 or P5 fam. I have enough orbs to unlock one fam. So I was wondering which one to unlock which helps the most to f2P

I have P4 fams at lvl 60 but not unlocked for war

[shy python]

Gryphon done?

[jolly sun]

better to do either gryphon or a shield fam for front you'd feel best taking mix rallies in or for your favourite troop type to attack with than drider

[icy stag]

I have gryphon

[icy stag]

Which shield fam to develop?

[jolly sun]

either inf or range depends what type you like better

both work for defending mix rallies (either range phal or inf wedge work for that)

so can pick one you like better for attacking

[icy stag]

So, if I understood correctly, it's Hoarder or snow beast. Correct?

[jolly sun]

yes

[leaden geyser]

For WoW Rallies though I think Cav shield is best among the 3.

[shy python]

Depends entirely on the comp you use

[normal hull]

Which familiars are a must for every march, especially for mixed marches/wall?

[vestal pine]

attacking or defending?

i would say evilweviil aqua are must for defending

[normal hull]

Well, I mainly use my mixed march to defend forts in da

[leaden geyser]

Well ofc however for prevalent comps cav shield is most used since both 208 and 055 blasts require it. And if cav phal enemy 659 or something then also Cav shield very good.

[vestal pine]

ok for da i guess gryphon + 100 % atk stacker(trickster/goblin/etc) would be good

[shy python]

Fair enough but one simple 442 variant and all these comps die. So, cannot generalise it to be best. Most not top tier leads default as range front when defending, so range shield is also good

[dusky vortex]

A 424 variant with cav shield and cav phal performs quite good

[shy python]

I'm not denying the good use of cav shield fam, just reiterating my point that I have in other channels as well.
You cannot generalise something to be the best or worst, just because youtubers use it or a 424 is common.
It's always based on requirements :). If I do 442 variants majorly, a range shield might be good as well. 659 with range shield range phal does well as well. So many options.

A 442/974 variant is pretty common and good with 3 cups no faiths as well. Hard to beat if setup well

[wild ginkgo]

what familiars should i focus on pact 1 and 2?

[shy python]

For familiar skill
First priority would be Aquiris from 1B. The STA will help you get your heroes to gold quick and also gain player exp.
Then you can focus on

• Harpy (VIP points) (2B)
• Totempest (Cargo Ship) (2A)
• Bouldor (max helps on construction) (2B),
• Evil Weevil (4hours worth of rss) (2A).
  The other skills are not that impactful and can be done later.

For army talent
Evil Weevil and Aquiris skills are very worth. The rest should be done later, after you have unlocked the talent from gemming gremlin, goblin and trickstar from pact 3.

If you don't understand any skill or talent, or have any more clarifications do ask

[wild ginkgo]

thank you so much that is very helpful

[shy python]

You're welcome

[jolly sun]

another thing to take into account as well is that if someone is properly trying to play forts they gonna need all 3 anyways and it won't be even close to the most expensive bit needed for them

[leaden geyser]

Don't be so sure about 442 comps though.

[shy python]

I'm not. My answer was a generic response to a generic misassumption. Have my fair share of experience as a lead 🙂

[leaden geyser]

I have seen some crazy reports. Where same type maxed accounts bounce 442 with cav phal 659. Lots of maxed accounts use Cav shield, drider and wyrm in their normal go to setup.

[plain void]

How op is Jade wyrm level 10 in battle ?

[shy python]

Its pretty useful in wonder rallies. and for castle defense. But as for blasts its okayish. I personally along with a lot others still prefer to use 2 P5s stacker shield and gryphon. Some replace gryphon with jade but my tests concluded lower damage for both parties. I took little less loss, but kill less of enemy as well. So since I prefer kills, I use gryphon only

[jolly sun]

Hmm my tests at least for range ended up with more DMG using jade

Only done range cuz me and my guildmate were testing leaderless solos on cav front

Gryphon

Jade

And jade here was lvl8 if I remember correctly

[jolly sun]

I might not tho so waiting to see if he remembers to confirm

I remembered wrong was 9 not 8

[lone gate]

would you guys rather have jade or bon appeti for defense? Assuming you can only max 1

[jolly sun]

Jade

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[shy python]

Jade

[plain void]

Sounds good thanks buddy 🙂

[crisp meteor]

Jade is always better than gryphon in any case

[quartz geode]

I don’t understand how this works. Is the damage based on your inf stats? So does that mean the higher your inf stats, the more damage this familiar does?

[uncut turret]

Based on your Inf ATK at the start of the combat.

[quartz geode]

You just repeated what’s written

[agile marsh]

Lets say your inf atack is 100% to keep the math easy then the fam would deal 60% damage if you just unlock it like how normally your inf would do 1 atack and that UpTo 4 times when the fam is max it would so 600% of that 100% means it do 600% damage

Pretty sure this is how they work

[quartz geode]

So let’s say 1% = 1 atk

It my inf stats was 100 atk, than at max level, the fam will do 600 atk worth of damage?

Meaning the stronger your inf gear, the better the damage the fam does?

And what about army attack? Does it count that as inf attack?

[agile marsh]

Yes

When defending from the pact 5 fams army hp also don't work only the per troop type hp

[quartz geode]

What

Oh

Hmmm

[agile marsh]

Army atack don't count for that

That one did not sent

[quartz geode]

Have you tested it?

[agile marsh]

Yeah I am sure about it

[quartz geode]

I would assume army atk would work since the stats are of the beginning of the battle

Where the inf is already effected by the army atk buff

[agile marsh]

Yeah but only the inf one on this case

[quartz geode]

Well army atk gives stats to all troop type

[quartz geode]

So you have tested it?

[agile marsh]

For normal atack yes not for those fams

Multiple times with multiple leads

[quartz geode]

You have to test with the same lead

Just different gear

[agile marsh]

Yeah did the test with 1 lead while he change gear

And did that multiple times

If you want I can ask my mate to test if you want

[quartz geode]

Well if you already tested it doesn’t matter, should be the same result

Ok thanks for info

[agile marsh]

Yeah ofcourse your welcome

[quartz geode]

And one more question

So if you inf atk is only 700%, is it worth getting the p5 fam or the shield fams

Well 2 shield fam

[agile marsh]

The atack one better in my opinion

Better kill before your army gets killed

But that awnser depends on who you ask

[jolly sun]

what are you smoking

[jolly sun]

what are you smoking nr2

[jolly sun]

only difference is the first 5% army atk talent is added in 2nd report

"only troop atk works with fams" btw

report nr3 the 5% talent on account with fam still on , the account with no fam has added 1,2% army hp from a green champ jewel

and magic happens again and army hp also works

[dense crag]

How many gems can be enough to reach level 23 from level 21 Please answer me?

In Lord mobile

[quartz geode]

So you lost less troop and killed more with %5 more army attack? I don’t think that proves anything since your troops got attack buff and that is bound to happen.

[jolly sun]

range is fam dmg only

[quartz geode]

Oh I am stupid

Thanks for confirming that

I am not trusting that guy again

[jolly sun]

np figured I'd rather redo tests than argue

since showing better than word vs word

[quartz geode]

True. Thanks

[agile marsh]

When I tested that it make no difference

[jolly sun]

show test

[rocky night]

Test results are private

[agile marsh]

Dont have them anymore sadly

[fathom adder]

Ho guys I've maxed trickstar, gemming gremlin, goblin,engineer,gnome,yeti and gryphon army talents

What should I focus red orbs on ?

[agile marsh]

evil weevil, aquiris are the best fams for wall if your army is big

Give a 30% army hp boost compared if you don't use them from the start of the battle

[shy python]

Not exactly 30% since one is for you and the other for the enemy. But yes they're good familiars for wall

[shy python]

How many familiar slots do you have?

[agile marsh]

Yeah I guess I write it wrong 30% army hp deferent compared to the person attacking you

[fathom adder]

3 atm, slowly working on opening 4th slot

[agile marsh]

What should I use for wall I mostly defend in inf wedge

Not that fams really matter at this point with my army being so small as it is

Lucky for me my research might is just high enough for my kingdom that everyone think I am mad raily trap

[fathom adder]

3 atm, slowly working on the 4th slot

[shy python]

These are the fams I have on my little one for 3 fam slots

Was initially doing the 80% hp fams as 3rd after 100% and gryphon. But then the 60% attack/hp came so did that for range and cav

[jolly sun]

you getting gryphon to activate on defence ?

[shy python]

Na. This is not wall

[jolly sun]

👌

[shy python]

You plan to solo me if I said yes😂👀?

[jolly sun]

would be tempting on a comp that loses 10% every hit

[shy python]

[fathom adder]

Thanks I guess I'll go for hearty feast

[plain void]

do it

[orchid island]

That is me

solo me Im easy solo

[echo ruin]

How do i counter this? 2 debuff fam, infa and cavs, and 1 buff range atk, thats what my enemy send

Enemy, range phal, and me infantry wedge. Its wonder defense.

[wise glacier]

Is gargantua any good?

[supple surge]

Who is the best familiar?

[dusky vortex]

Don't do wonders without experience. Try to get experience in dragon arena. And Range phal is best for wonders as overall for newbies

[dusky vortex]

Yes

[echo ruin]

Its kvk thats why we go for wonders

[astral thunder]

they have double the t4 and also could be your gear and stats that are way lower than his

[echo ruin]

Yuo thanks for the insight, my team are really lacking on t4 and t3 fillers

[echo ruin]

How about on this debuff?

[dusky vortex]

They aren't much what familiars you was using?

[echo ruin]

same with them, but on a low level cavs and range debuff hp on 12% and infa def

[west blaze]

whats the % when maxed?

nvm found it, 5%

[astral thunder]

There isn't really a way to counter that effect

[agile marsh]

Personally I pretty mutch always go inf wedge sinds my gear and fams are build around that lineup most times I beat stronger leads that sent range phal

[dusky vortex]

You can't beat a 424 range phal in inf wedge

[jolly sun]

I've never had good results with inf wedge personally

All the times I tried it when I wasn't sending 055 I got smacked

[sick coral]

What hero types and how many of each do you need for certain troop ratio composition?

[sick coral]

For example, if inf is 4 then do i use two inf heroes?

[dusky vortex]

424 has 1 inf 2 range 2 cav heroes

You will mostly use range /cav phal in 424 So that's why 2 heroes for both range and cav

[sick coral]

Ok, so in this instance if i used a 442. Do i then use 2 inf heroes, 1 range hero and 2 cav heroes?

[dusky vortex]

You won't be using cav front in 442 so 1 cav hero

Range front vs range front requires 2 range heroes

Suppose you and your opponent both sends a 424 march. Considering both are equal in stats and both do range phal. You have 1 range hero in while other have 2. Your opponent will win only coz of 1 hero

[sick coral]

@dusky vortex Can you please mention the most common troop ratio comps and the hero types needed for each alongside their best troop formation?

This could come in handy for me in Dragon Arena

[haughty matrix]

Salam

[dusky vortex]

424 (122)
442 (221)
659 (122)
974 (221)
055 (041)
208 ( 104)

[leaden geyser]

WoW. Ppl say they use Inf Wedge in Wonders and they can still win. Must be against weaker leads lol

[dusky vortex]

I have seen people do 659 with 212 set of heroes too

[leaden geyser]

I do my 857 with 221.

Works pretty well for me.

[sick coral]

If my guess is close to correct from seeing this :
424 is range phal
442 is inf phal
659 is range phal/ range wedge
974 is cav wedge / cav phal
055 is inf phal
208 is inf phal / inf wedge
Can you correct me if i am wrong on this?

[dusky vortex]

424 (range phal /cav phal)
442 (Inf phal/range phal)
659 (cav phal)
974(inf phal/range phal)
055 (inf wedge)
208(range wedge)

[sick coral]

Oh ok, thank you.

[dusky vortex]

[sick coral]

@dusky vortex So when it comes to these troop ratios, do i put the least amount of a troop type in front?
For example in 424, since range is in front do they act as buffer while the cav or inf is coming?
Can you explain buffers for each ratio comp and what gear should be used?

[shy python]

These formations that rudraksh mentions are just what people tend to use. Not the best in every situation. There's no foundational logic that will apply to all situations. Be it least troop type or anything else

424/659, can be played in inf phal as well. So there's a lot of different factors. I'd say explore these formations first. Explore your limits.
But a big NO to the least type in the front logic

[dusky vortex]

424 is 40%inf 20% range 40% cav. So it's a mix march rather than buffers. And as boo said their is a lot of variations . Like 857 where you increase you range and decrease cav. It depends on the enemy gears and all. In dragon arena normal basics are enough you will mostly see 424 and 442 in forts.

I do 974 or 866 inf phal against 442
And just send my 424 on 424

[grizzled steppe]

Also 867 and 5309, but that's mostly used on walls...

[dawn lark]

Child hood 1634710912

[grave thicket]

Zombie no. 261

[dawn lark]

What

[grave thicket]

Did the event channel send you here or did you click on this channel "hey lets post it here"?

[trim sentinel]

Hello, does someone know the drop rate of pacts 2A please?

[dawn lark]

Gu

Vf

[onyx cosmos]

212 is shit

[crisp meteor]

122 or 221

[inner shard]

6969

[onyx cosmos]

problem with 122 is hard to clear enemy range

you need to go 221 to have a chance of clearing enemy range

[plain void]

💀😂

[normal hull]

Unlucky 🤣

[ebon hemlock]

198/200

[rich dragon]

#💎┆familiar-skills

[onyx cosmos]

[normal hull]

wait until he learns about the familiar that can kill t4

[onyx cosmos]

[hollow pelican]

Igg id 1105797623

[grave thicket]

Zombie no. 276

[untold prawn]

Make me zombie

[rocky night]

2 more

[jovial glacier]

there was 2 more in general ystrday

[inland vortex]

What level is an elder??

[kindred flint]

I think 50 to get to elder and then max is 60

I don't know

[dusky vortex]

Below 50 adult. After 50 elder

[jovial glacier]

he means wht the lvl needd to make the fam elder

[dusky vortex]

I did state the level

[jovial glacier]

u need to be l50 to can make it elder, right?

[dusky vortex]

Yeah last stage is elder

[plain void]

Will a blast familiar like Bon be good in a mix rally like 857? about 665HP in the set 600% atk across 3 types

[dusky vortex]

Yeah

[plain void]

Ok thanks

[untold prawn]

Gonna max terraspike first and then gonna work on a replacement for gryphon. Any recommendations for replacement? Was thinking magmalord

[plain void]

Is hell drider good for mix rallies or wonder ? Thanks

Or are there better options apart from Jade

[dusky vortex]

For wonders only

[plain void]

I see. So mix rally not so great if hitting a target?

[dusky vortex]

Usually a shield fam, jade, 2p5 and drider

[plain void]

Like 857 etc

Gotcha

Ok thank you. I will probably make drider, Jade and have bunny too max

[dusky vortex]

Hell drider and p5 are not great in mix rallies. 3 shield jade and gryphon does it better on mix against turf

[plain void]

Ok gotcha thank you

[kindred flint]

Not really useful but good to have in the collection i guess lol

Same with bon appeti

[dusky vortex]

It's a bit useful for some stats

[kindred flint]

I need 120 i got this by luck in tycoon ;-;

[dusky vortex]

Gf also have p5

[kindred flint]

My guild doesnt reach that far usually stops a tier before

[dusky vortex]

Soon you will have them all

Like this

[kindred flint]

Btw is it better to use all fragments in one day to upgrade a skill or wait for reset

[kindred flint]

So many lvl 5s :O

Pact 5*

[dusky vortex]

Upgrade 2 to 3 times. Then wait for next day

[dusky vortex]

Mostly from gf/tycoon

A few from bargain store

[kindred flint]

We cant reach the pact tier tho ;-;

Hopefully we will be able to soon

We just get left behind by a few thousand points

[dusky vortex]

What gauntlet?

[kindred flint]

Advanced but we cant reach the pact tier

[dusky vortex]

I didn't knew advanced gauntlet offers p5

[kindred flint]

It does

[dusky vortex]

You guys looks new soon you will be able to get p5. Just play patiently

[kindred flint]

Yup hopefully ^^

[hexed imp]

@kindred flint dms

[kindred flint]

Oki

[jovial glacier]

I am in mastr, and looks like I will have some p5 strong aftr long time

[west blaze]

how many gyms do u keep?

[dusky vortex]

1

[west blaze]

is it worth it to keep more than 1?

ive put up like 5

[dusky vortex]

All springs and 1 spire as I need merging speed. I grind merging hells for red and yellow orbs

[west blaze]

ohhh

[dusky vortex]

And my 90% fam are maxed

Trojan is last t5 left are some t1 and t2 fams

[west blaze]

i got lots of fams to level up

[weary zephyr]

Anyone suggest me on which familier should I use my yellow orb and also which is good at wall

I have max my gryphon at Max gives 200% attack bosst

Now which is good ?

[dusky vortex]

Shield fams are good on wall

[plain void]

Finally ha ha 😎

[normal hull]

Why not maxed yet?

[plain void]

Because I only had 1k orbs when I unlocked earlier today I need to wait for next packs to come in for orbs

[tawny breach]

I'm having a quick question
I'm having only one 600% familiar which is Infantry one so I'm planning on using Yellow Orbs in it and keeping on my Wall. So will it activate only when my frontline is Infantry or even when its Range? As I've seen in some vids that all 3 of those 600% Fam activates at same time even other than frontline isn't dead.

[quartz geode]

“When 4% of your troops have fallen”

So any troop type

[oblique agate]

IGG ID 854045364

[tawny breach]

Oh I see so which other 3-4 familiars should i put on wall with Bon Appeti

Range in my Frontline

[dusky vortex]

Maybe other p5 if you can get them

[grave thicket]

Zombie no. 282

[rocky night]

Time to tell me how much you have spent in total

[dusky vortex]

[wild trench]

nothing bro.. only missing a kidney or 2 i swear.. 🤣

[rocky night]

I asked the guy who spent

[ebon hemlock]

Is gryphon a good fam skill to max as my first p4 fam?

[hexed imp]

Yes

I maxed gryphon first
Now working on cav shield fam

[ebon hemlock]

Hopefully doing good for now

[echo ruin]

Is this worth it to open and level up to max?

I am f2p and already have aquiris and evil weevil

[dusky vortex]

Good for attacking and can be used in every type of march

[echo ruin]

How about for defense?

[dusky vortex]

Works only for small comps

[dawn forge]

Guys which fams are best for defence for big comps
Like 34m troops

[dusky vortex]

Weevil, acquiri, 60atk /hp fams

[lone gate]

how many pacts should you open at a time for gryphon, I be opening 50 and sometimes get 0

[spare topaz]

Which familiar talent is better
Lash out or drown out for cav hit?

And if lash out is better, is there a good difference or slightly better?

[dusky vortex]

Lash out obviuos reasons

It's only for cav and 80%hp is huge boost as 15% less enemy army hp

[spare topaz]

But it's for 10 seconds

[dusky vortex]

10 seconds is good enough when the total battle time is 60 seconds

[spare topaz]

Okay thanks

[jolly sun]

pretty sure it's 40 sec not 60

[hexed imp]

Wasn't it 45?

[normal hull]

I say, it's at least 1 second long 👍

[dusky vortex]

[rocky night]

No ,69 secs

[rocky night]

Pact 3 hates you

[hexed imp]

It's 80085 seconds

[rocky night]

No

[rich dragon]

Thats all really depends upon luck as i open 8 pacts mostly and sometimes even gets 2 of Gryphon Runes. So really luck dependent

[lone gate]

does this apply to darknests as well

and gryphon talent army size

[hexed imp]

Yes it does

[dusky vortex]

It's for reinforcements

[plain void]

Finally

[ebon hemlock]

You are made of money my guy

How much does it even cost to max it??

[plain void]

😂

I’m not sure I rather not check 😂😂😂😂

[normal hull]

spoiler: it wasn't even your money XD

[quartz geode]

If you were to slow role it, it was probably $275. This is if you bought the wrym pack and orbs only during BOGO.
Otherwise.
Probably 550$

[plain void]

Ah that’s not too bad then thought it was mote

More

[normal hull]

Got this bad boy to level 10. Not as impressive as @plain void

[plain void]

Nice he is OP too 200% army atk is so useful

[plain void]

Congrats

[normal hull]

Thanks

[normal hull]

Which red orb fams should I work on next?

[untold prawn]

All

[normal hull]

Idk that familiar. Is it new?

[untold prawn]

Maybe

Try looking

[dusky vortex]

Magus, mole shamn, noceros

[normal hull]

for blasts?

[dusky vortex]

Good in defense too. Activates at 5%

[normal hull]

Ohh are they used for forts too?

[dusky vortex]

I heard they equals a shield fam result

Let me try in trial by fire

[normal hull]

Ayo!?

[dusky vortex]

No shield is a bit better

Magus is like a lvl 9 beast skill

With shield fam

With magus

[normal hull]

Well, a "little bit" worse

[dusky vortex]

Yeah just a little bit xD

[normal hull]

Should be better than aquiris tho until i have my shield fams, right?

[dusky vortex]

I guess

Let me try xD

[normal hull]

XD

Thanks for testing it for me

[dusky vortex]

Can't try on alt acquiris not maxed . And main got today's limit on tbf

[normal hull]

[dusky vortex]

I don't know how but I did quick clear mix stage today

[normal hull]

Probably lucky with the enemy comp and formation ig

[dusky vortex]

[dusky vortex]

I can try with weevil though

[normal hull]

I don't think I'll replace weevil tbh? cause his army hp sounds pretty good imo

[dusky vortex]

Same

I don't use acquiris anymore but still use weevil

[normal hull]

what i've been using for most comps lately (never used them before besides 208 ) are gryphon, aquiris and/or weevil and 1 or 2 stackers

[normal hull]

That's why I'm wondering if magus, mole and noceros are worth replacing him with

[dusky vortex]

Worth against a rally

[normal hull]

what about attacking with a rally?

[dusky vortex]

I think better

[normal hull]

oh fuck yeah

Which one should I work on first if 659 is my main comp?

And which one would probably be the one used the most?

[dusky vortex]

Cav fams

Without weevil /with magus

With weeevil/without magus

Magus better

[normal hull]

💀

[normal hull]

so noceros then?

[dusky vortex]

Yep

[normal hull]

Okay, thank you ^^

[normal hull]

Nvm, going tempestite first

thanks for your help tho

forgot that he's also pretty useful

[dusky vortex]

The stun one?

[normal hull]

yes

[dusky vortex]

Yeah he is good in mix. Will be my last fam to work on

[normal hull]

@jolly sun you got a minute?

[rocky night]

He is busy

[normal hull]

He giving you under the table assist?

[rocky night]

No

[normal hull]

You gib him??

[rocky night]

No,tu gib him

[normal hull]

No, nous gib him

[jolly sun]

just ask a question instead of tagging me with nothing to respond

[normal hull]

what level is it worth it to replace drider with a maxed aquiris

[jolly sun]

depends for what

[normal hull]

mostly rallies on forts

[jolly sun]

like lvl2

[normal hull]

fr??

[jolly sun]

aquiris is kinda shiet for forts

[normal hull]

in da too?

[jolly sun]

in general for all of them

[normal hull]

oh

i see. gonna go replace them with drider then. thanks ^^

[jolly sun]

I wouldn't do drider at all but you do you lol

[normal hull]

not?

[jolly sun]

not a great fam to use yellow orbs on

[normal hull]

👀

And you're telling me now?

when i got that bash to level 5? XD

[plain void]

Any recommendations for familiars for a weak player?

[ebon hemlock]

What pacts do you have unlocked?

[plain void]

2 almost 3

[normal hull]

Aquiris and weevil are good for the start

[plain void]

Thank you 🙂

Weevil has the hp buff right?

[normal hull]

yes

[plain void]

Thanks!

[normal hull]

Yw

[drifting mirage]

⚰️

[plain void]

Which fam should I max first if I like to send 857 rallies at targets and also wonder battles for base etc

Bon appetite or hell drider

I also have Jade wyrm and bunny at level 10 in battle already.

[dusky vortex]

Maybe bon

[mystic blade]

[plain void]

Thanks, I’m guessing same for 992

[dusky vortex]

If you have higher inf attack in mix then use bon and if got high range can use range p5

[plain void]

Sweet yeah inf is always the highest

[normal hull]

Made this level 10, dunno if he's good tho

[hollow pelican]

Igg id 1022655355

[grave thicket]

zombie no. 295

[grim lagoon]

Igg 559392348

[grave thicket]

zombie no. 296

[normal hull]

Do I get headpats when I'm a zombie?

[grave thicket]

no, just a spot in the cages

[normal hull]

Seraphim is mean 😭

What I gotta do to get a headpat?

[ebon hemlock]

Meanie

[ebon hemlock]

Gimme 24hr speedups

[grave thicket]

well its not like i can make any exceptions now, can i?

[normal hull]

I just want a headpat

https://tenor.com/view/otaku-elf-elda-cute-shrine-gif-3623875080679457666

[grave thicket]

ask one from your husband/wife?

[normal hull]

I want one from the necromancer tho 😦

[grave thicket]

? im not a necromancer

[ebon hemlock]

Just give them all one

[normal hull]

You do have all those zombies, no?

So basically you are one 🙃

[grave thicket]

one can concider the number a headpat

[mystic blade]

[kindred flint]

Flex..

[normal hull]

You want me to flex?

[kindred flint]

No thx!

[mystic blade]

[visual valve]

[pulsar tusk]

Someone knows the difference between the army skills of tempestite and drider ?

[normal hull]

Drider last longer than tempestite and activates when fewer troops die

[pulsar tusk]

ok but they are doing the same thing right ?

[normal hull]

Yes, they both do the same thing

[pulsar tusk]

thank's for your time, have a great day

[normal hull]

You're welcome. Have a great day too

[tough gull]

Show ur flex

[normal hull]

https://tenor.com/view/strong-tough-beefy-mighty-manly-gif-12829597

Very strong