👾┊familiars

[cerulean warren]

So this is the role of the saber as well as like the snow guardian for range and the treasure box for infantry. You’ll notice if you are doing a blast or if you have a majority of whatever troop that is if that familiars at level 89 or 10 when it goes on it will stop all troops from dying for anywhere between 2 to 4 seconds

[open sand]

600 tokens, 3k potions, 151 elixirs from lvl 20.... just short of lvl 60 for baron tomorrow but was sick of spending hours transporting every month or so without

[green jungle]

do you intend to sell RSS during baron tomorrow? why do you need courier?

[open sand]

I can't hold food so give to our guild bank and my personal one

[green jungle]

Ah yes

yeah it's a pleasant difference for the few of us who don't have gold or mythic champ armor yet

[open sand]

Aye, only have purple chest piece so it will save me a ton of time

[brazen dome]

[open sand]

I normally do 442 fort holds. I have bon max and can upgrade either bunny, bee or frostwing next (way off Garg & BW)

Which would you recommend? I think bunny or bee would be better but unsure what to choose 1st

[opal notch]

Well I'd suggest bunny first.. it will also make your inf stronger since you already have bon

[open sand]

yes it would. My rng fams are lacking a bit (not maxed hp fam yet ) but can do that soon I guess

[brazen dome]

😭

[tardy birch]

[low kettle]

What are the best fams for taking hits??

[vestal pine]

Assuming you're f2p 3 slots no p5s
Wevil, gryphon, maybe aquris too (doesn't really works if you're getting hit by titans) then change Aquarius to other depending on your troop fronts (atk boosters)
Note- always mention p2p or f2p fams

[opal notch]

Ixnay on the rygphonay

'scuse my igpay atinlay

[opal notch]

Heavy p2p with at least 3 slots... The 3 600% fams and then weevil/aquiris

Normal player with at least 3 slots... Weevil, aquiris and a +15% one for Frontline or -40% enemy hp

Inf/range rein trap... Gremlin/trickstar, engineer/gnome, jaziek/terraspike and then one of weevil or aquiris

Do not use gryphon unless you plan on taking heavy casualties everytime you get hit. Oobnay

[uneven tangle]

😋

[vestal pine]

English?😩

[tardy birch]

https://tenor.com/view/vegeta-dragonballsuper-dragonball-meme-language-of-gods-gif-14707991

[opal notch]

Gryphon is terrible for defending

Unless you plan on taking heavy casualties regularly

[vestal pine]

Lack of information. We don't know if he want to take solo hit or rallies 🙃

I assumed to be rally

[opal notch]

Rally or solo. Still bad either way

[crisp meteor]

Depending on your comp it will proc everytime

[opal notch]

I mean, if he expects it to activate Everytime he gets hits then he probably shouldn't be taking hits lol

And if it doesn't activate, you get a useless fam on wall

[crisp meteor]

[glass mist]

best f2p familiars for battle?

[low kettle]

Yeah sorry I should've specified better, best fams for taking at least 5 rallies

T5/t4

Rallies would be from titans ofc

[open sand]

The ones asa said further up

[open sand]

What's your question regarding familiars?

[brazen dome]

Lose has changed the world

[tardy birch]

[fallen parrot]

when we will get the slot of familiars ?

[open sand]

When you unlock the research

[tardy birch]

[brazen dome]

😫

[plain void]

I’ve been having 3 stacking fams on my wall lmao

Wait no, tempest and gryp ain’t stacking fams. So one stacking fam and those two and I’d switch out depending on which rally was coming at me if I had time

I don’t have the red orbs even though the fams you mentioned are elder already

[opal notch]

Tempest and gryphon are even worse than stacking fams for defending.
You need to lose 10% of your total troop count before they activate lol

[glass mist]

are best fams for defence f2p weevil aquarius and what else

[open sand]

Aquaris then 1 for front line like gnome if rng

[fleet goblet]

[brazen dome]

I have to chenged

[open sand]

[distant pawn]

good evening

[plain void]

Wyrm is passive right?

Also I’ll only open 2 wall fam slots on this, so should I just go with weevil and aquaris?

[open sand]

Wyrm passive yea.

Yea evil weevil and aquaris are good

[green jungle]

yeah wyrm is great to unlock at least to adult

10.5% for inf and range is pretty decent for having to buy 6 packs :p

[viscid hornet]

Stupid question but how do you get Wrym fam from the packs out the mall or tycoon?

[open sand]

Pack from store... it's the forgotten fam

[viscid hornet]

In the whole year and a bit played i have never seen it in the store

[open sand]

It's not out too often which is why I say forgotten fam

[viscid hornet]

They need to bring it out a bit more then but this is igg tho

[open sand]

It's really good and relatively cheap to get to purple... igg hate it lol

[viscid hornet]

Its a defence fam is it not? So would it be any useful to a rally trap How much even is it 🤔

[open sand]

It's passive counter stats so it's very strong

[dire rock]

Whats the best way to go with familiars? I pretty much sticked to 1A to get Territe to 60 and then plan to move to 1B to get Aquiris to max and then move my way down

[sacred glacier]

lol it out today. Pretty sure it out every week or so, bc I think it rotates with the other P2P fams in the mall

[grave thicket]

buddy, stick to the rules okay? keep trading ads in #🤝┊trading and follow the rules. you have already been warned for this

[viscid hornet]

Aw darn it its only a £5 and im not paid till the 19th

Yeah im getting this bad boy at some point ill just have to ask the boyfriend haha

[viscid hornet]

You want to max out you wall familiars to 60 and there army talent and the other thing they give you, then work on getting the rest do what is best for your account and how you play, I did all my wall ones first then done trickstar, gemin gremlin of more holly stars and gems now doing pyris as if you get pyris skill to 10 is 30 mins to cool down and handy during gf quests

[sacred glacier]

Don’t waste red orbs on territe’s army talent

[dire rock]

I'm planning to get the resource talents only from them, not the army talents. My thought process was quicker merging and more STA and then move to war related ones

[dire rock]

Which are the best wall ones then?

[viscid hornet]

Thats my wall familiars

[dire rock]

You're way further into the game then me, just a month in

[viscid hornet]

If you are running dns these army talents help with certian buffs like inf attack for 30s when 10% inf troups have fallen

I have been playing for about a year and half

[sacred glacier]

Yeah SilentPeach has good wall fams. Aquiris and Evil Weevil are always staples

[viscid hornet]

Thats the ones I was told to have from a friend who's been playing from day 1 haha

[sacred glacier]

Oh wow, I started playing about 2 1/2 years after it came out

[viscid hornet]

Yeah, he is where I go even info about packs to buy and that I wish I played it from day 1 but oh well haha

[plain void]

Hope Wyrm is out during next BOGO so I can get it to adult in one go. Don’t want to wait for 5 more rotations

[viscid hornet]

That would be awesome i just got it and fancy doing other ones first I think

[brazen dome]

😋

[plain void]

@plain void @viscid hornet

👍 🎁

wt

[open sand]

[tardy birch]

[vestal rose]

[viscid hornet]

So this might be silly but is there jewls for the fam gear

[crisp meteor]

no

[viscid hornet]

I thought so just a guild mate was asking if I had jewles in my fam gear haha

[brazen dome]

😭

[solar crystal]

Anyone got an exact number for amount of the orbs needs to max gryphon?

[solar crystal]

Thank you 😊

[teal jungle]

Anyone have info on how the Jade worm pact pack scales up? How many you get at 20 50 100 (I'm actually just guessing that it does go to 100 but someone mentioned that it does)

[jolly sun]

20$ one is 15

Not sure about ones above that I bought it up to 50$ at one point but it was ages ago

[subtle zealot]

@teal jungle $50 is 25 $100 is 35

[cosmic quarry]

Scale stinks for jade….

[old wave]

It's an T3 inf front solo trap... should I just max out Harpy or should I start working on mole shaman for a third fam slot? I'm f2p

[toxic atlas]

If you want a bigger boost instantly then just max out Harpy. If you decide to do mole shaman, overtime it'll be better than maxing out harpy...basing on your being f2p you don't get orbs fast. With 93 orbs, I suggest Awakening shaman and you'll need only 23 more orbs (36) for lvl 2 which is already better than spending 90 orbs on harpy and taking months to accumulate 80 orbs for awakening shaman. It's just my opinion.

[weary bone]

new fam updates better than shield fams?

[open sand]

shield fams still better for attacking

[weary bone]

awesome, thank you 🙂

[open sand]

for evidence he tested with this - "The first number is the loss of the attacker, second is loss of the defender
And used 2375 troops to attack the 6k / 12k"

[weary bone]

ok, so if i understand correctly, the shields do lead to a little more losses for the attacker, but the losses to the defender make up for the difference compared to the new fam

[open sand]

they basically keep them alive longer so they do more dmg in the long run

[weary bone]

ahhh ok, got it, thank you 🙂

[crisp meteor]

Also everyone, please, keep in mind that this is not representative of all cases.

[open sand]

no just 1 test

[trail cape]

And what is used here? Only 1 fam?

And what is the newly skill? Normal?

[open sand]

Both maxed

[trail cape]

Nah i want to know where is see the so called "evidence " because i dont get from that chart which number belongs to the newly skills

I see*

I just see normal ( no fam? )
Stack ( 100% stacks? )
Gryphon
Shield

Wheres the new skill?

[open sand]

It's from my Friend in my server. Let me ask since you're being weirdly defensive

[trail cape]

I just want to know if its worth using in blasts or not 😅
Thats the first time some1 shows numbers instead of just "its not good. Suck it" 😂

60% att and hp does sound pretty decent on paper.
For wall they aint that bad if the comp isnt too big, but for blasts I'm curious about the numbers

[open sand]

I'll see what he says, but he did state "So, with a small amount of troops to rally it's better than the shield and with a big troop count it's worse" based on the test

[trail cape]

Aaah okay 👌🏼 thanks tho ❤

[opal notch]

You shoulda gone for gremlin instead of harpy

[opal notch]

Well yeah if you're hitting a huge comp, you want your troops to stay alive as long as possible. If it's just a small target... Then more attack

But I wouldn't go out of my way to get em just cos they're brand new lol.
Doing the range one tho since I'm missing queen bee.

[open sand]

I'm getting rng one too since I never started 80% fam and no bee either

Lemme copy his text as i understood what he meant last night but been to sleep since

[opal notch]

I did the 80% one too lol.. but I'm gonna replace gnome with mole

[open sand]

I only just got harpy max

[opal notch]

Hm he didn't use normal cav lineup then replace shield fam with noceros?

[opal notch]

Guess we can conclude that it depends on the situation lol.
But the new ones ae basically meant for f2p blasts

Which probably means we should be expecting a major 💰 update

[open sand]

Yea. I'd summarise that big troops = shield fam

Smaller troops = new fams

[open sand]

so expensive

oh... just enough for lvl 10

[jolly sun]

ok so my alt has this

do I finish this and do this for cav or keep with old plan going for cav shield (starting range one was a very old mistake even pre p2p fams being done when snowbeast was one of few fams I had elder)

inf has shield done already

cuz inf is the only real good blast there

for context cav and range sets look like this with cav having about 10% extra base stats too

[brittle summit]

[snow zephyr]

what's the thought of these fams like norco magus, and mole for battle skills? do they have a spot in a titan's lineup?

[brittle summit]

Hello..

[bleak crescent]

No.

[still sinew]

Hey, can anyone help and guide which familiars to train for range focused accounts?

[jolly sun]

The ones picked at the top

[old wave]

Gremlin atk Better than Harpy HP in defense?

Between increasing inf HP against a cav solo and increasing inf atk against a cav solo...which is more significant?

[opal notch]

Well attack is better than hp so attack stats are favored.. your hp won't matter much if you get countered by a strong player.

Both are good to have, but ultimately, attack > hp > defense

[old wave]

Oh. Thanks

[green jungle]

Gremlin stacks multiple times, harpy only procs once

[old wave]

Lol, when your gremlin stacks multiple times while defending then...

[green jungle]

If you're countered like you specify, it's gonna stack multiple times, unless you have like 100m troops

[old wave]

Maybe twice. Thrice at most

[open sand]

... depending on how much you lose that is

Ideally, you don't want stacking fams on wall as you'll be losing to many troops or they won't be effective

[old wave]

This was a full t4 counter from a a maxed account with 3 piece mythic champ on its cav blast

I know that the damage can be more when I'm Countered by Accounts with crazier stats but I try to avoid them at all costs

This one Countered me too but caught me in construction gear. 401 stars 607 levels

[nova quiver]

Nice take still

[still sinew]

Thanks

And for infantry?

And how much attack percentage do you need to attack darknest level 6?

[green jungle]

Slightly over 400% to start, iirc

[nova quiver]

Can attack at any

But if you want to win you need to pick the right one, to win at 400% would be lucky

[unique fable]

Is harpy familiar worth to upgrade for vip points skill?

[open sand]

Yes

[junior pagoda]

Goblin at Lvl8
Gemming Gremlin Lvl7

Should I leave them and start Noceros, Magus & Mole now? Im f2p so I only rely on events or hell for red orbs so it takes time to level them up.

[young crypt]

If you're talking about Army talent, then should focus on Aquiris, Evil 1st & if they are done, then definitely noceros, Magus & Mole.

[junior pagoda]

Yep army talent. Done with Aquiris and Weevil & the atk fams.

[warm widget]

How much time would it take roughly to get hoarders ability max for a f2p player?

[unique fable]

Haven't even unlocked that yet but considering you will focus on unlocking t4 in the first half of your acc, I'd say 1-2 years to unlock and another couple months to a year of levelling and upgrading

This is just an estimate lol, if anyone knows more than I do please answer too

[young crypt]

I would say less than 6 months.

If you don't have enough runes to make it elder, then switch to full springs & take them to L24 while saving all your merging speeds for next 3-4 weeks.

Then do merging hells with orbs/watcher everytime they pop up till next 8 weeks. That way you will get a bunch of runes, along side orbs & watcher medals.

Switch to full gyms & train the most needed fams 1 or 2 at a time. By dividing your total heroes half each.

You will be getting sufficient Exp items within the duration which will be helping you max them too.

[shy grotto]

[silk escarp]

is necros new familiar attack skill worth awakening?

[crisp hinge]

[plain void]

if your not going double p5 fam it can help

[green jungle]

Noceros

[frozen hill]

Anyone got the ammount of orbs it costs to max noceros and the others lvl to lvl ?

[green jungle]

800

[frozen hill]

Ty

[grim skiff]

Hi

[deep nexus]

Hi

[coral shadow]

Just multiple the activate cost by 10. Then you get the total cost.

Blackwing is 160 up activate, total 1600.
Maggot is 64 to activate, total 640.

[frozen flower]

Is the new hell rider war ability worth to use?

[green jungle]

impossible to know until someone decides to buy 1280 bright orbs and tests it ig

it's certainly pricey

[plain void]

apparently wp tested it there's a video up on his channel but i haven't bothered watching it yet

[frozen flower]

Thank you. I will take a look

[fair wraith]

What do you guys think of the new fam powers

Noceros and mole shaman?

Im F2P, 600m+ might but im searchinn fams for the 4th slot

I have 15+ hp boost -15 for attack, and gryphon

[open sand]

They are definitely a replacement for the 80% hp fams for sure.

[fair wraith]

Do you think they’re good for defence and attack as F2P

[open sand]

Yes, I would have one on my wall if I had a 4th slot

[fair wraith]

Okay, i’ll max them and use

[open sand]

Sounds good, evil weevil and aquaris are go to 1st ones to max

[cerulean tree]

Helo

Anyone know how much tome needed for slot 4 unlock

[quartz geode]

3335

[cerulean tree]

Thx

[open sand]

to upset you on 5th slot

[cerulean tree]

Ah fml lol

[open sand]

[plain void]

do you have that for advanced wonders

[open sand]

Oh sry wrong one

[open sand]

Don't have it, can't find one either, sry

[plain void]

[rocky schooner]

anyone know which 3 fams are the best for a blast if u only have 3 fam slots?

[opal notch]

For attacking or defending?

If it's for attacking and you don't have p5 fams, then stacking, the new 60% attack and hp fams and then gryphon..

If defending, you want weevil, aquiris and either a +15% fam for your Frontline or -40% hp one

[reef pulsar]

Is there a testing consensus on the hell drider ability yet? I’m hearing it’s great for defense, unknown in wow, and bad for blasts

[cursive agate]

Which 1 familiar is the strongest? I've skimmed thru ,and didn't see the answer 😕

[tardy birch]

no familiar is the strongest..every fam has a different stats and boost..

so there is no strongest fam

[opal notch]

Generally the p5 fams are the strongest group

[teal jungle]

Jade worm is the strongest. All passive stats 😉

[main cypress]

What are the best set of familiars for attack

[opal notch]

P5 fams, stacking fam, gryphon and shield fam if you're attacking a large comp or the new 60% ones if you're attacking a small comp

[frozen hill]

Would the 3 new fams be good on the wall ? The ones with +60% hp and attack ?

[open sand]

If no 600% atk fams then I'd be inclined to have the one that matches my default front line

[frozen hill]

Alright ty

[opal notch]

@glass mist

[glass mist]

ty :P

[plain void]

Holi alguien. Habla español

[paper island]

Aquí

[plain void]

Dm dddi

[weary zephyr]

HOW MUCH TOMES NEEDED IN FULL ACADEMY IN TOTAL

AND IN EACH RESEARCH

ANYONE HAVE INFORAMTION ON THIS

[grizzled steppe]

Check the pins in #help

Unlocking your caps lock key doesn't need any tomes though, so that might be a better place to start...

[plain void]

Hola

[paper island]

xD

[hearty maple]

1054078609

[open sand]

[split osprey]

thank you for providing your igg id for the deleting event. you wont be compensated for the loss of your account. are you sure you want us to delete the igg id and account connected to it?

[grave thicket]

im gonna have to ask you to please dont copy paste this, the joke was fun while it lasted but we dont want people to complain to live support about losing their account trough a discord thing

[split osprey]

Alright will do

[grave thicket]

great, thanks :D

[split osprey]

But it's funny though

[grave thicket]

it is, but still, dont want complaints goig to live support

[soft crane]

😩

[tribal field]

😭😭
My pact 3 familiar opening 3months ago but after 3months I didn't open my pact4 familiar it's long term f2p players

[lyric latch]

Pacts are definitely a long haul for f2p

[late bone]

How good is the army talent of the Hell Drider ?

I have limited yellow orbs . So what should I get first between Queen bee and Blackwing ?

[open sand]

If possible do 600% fams 1st like Blackwing. But make sure you get gryphon maxed also if not done already

[tough coyote]

what will be good to be on wall either gryphon or tempestite?

how much orbs needs to max out Hell Drider's skill? Is it 10 time like unlocking army talent?

[open sand]

1 at a time

Orbs are here

Wall fams depend on your comp. Ideally you don't want ones that trigger as late as 10% fallen unless you have built your comp like that

[tough coyote]

[dusky vortex]

Currently I have 3 fam slots.. In which I use gryphon,stacker,evil weevil.. in solo marches..
When Can I replace evil weevil with the new fam ? Currently working only on noceros..

And is it worth switching evil weevil? 15% army for full battle or 60% hp/atk for some time

Ping me pls when reply

[open sand]

I don't know the scaling on the new ability fams but I would replace on the respective marches around 10% atk/hp like for a cav blast with noceros

[dusky vortex]

I tried with a 14% atk/hp.. but the result with evil weevil was better

[open sand]

Hmmm perhaps it's because evil weevil activates at start whereas noceros starts at 5% loss

I guess it's experimenting then, try again around 20% and see how it goes, but 5% loss is quite easy to get these days

[dusky vortex]

Let's see

[grave wasp]

How to kill a familiar?

[open sand]

You don't

[mellow ether]

Does pyris hero attack boost work for defence? Like in wall and in camps. Does anyone knows?

[rotund nebula]

Guys which one is better snow beast or new magus army talent

For range

[pure elm]

If both at max, snow beast

[opal notch]

If you're attacking a small army, then magus is better
If you're attacking a large comp, snowbeast is better

[sacred glacier]

Pretty sure it does...but you’re better off using weevil or aquiris for defense

[weary gale]

Which famiker shoukd i max first and put on wall?

[open sand]

Probably aquaris

[plain void]

then evil weevil

[solar rivet]

Should I upgrad tempestite familiar? For free t1 troops but ultimately they all gonna die..

[opal notch]

Useful for farming and testing fronts

[jolly sun]

And the siege you get you can keep for tanking pyris hits

[grave thicket]

#🚫┊guild-finder-no-chat you have already been redirected to that channel, please use it as intended instead of posting in multiple channels

[pure elm]

New fam

Do we know if it’s worth it?

[tardy parrot]

Honestly I believe it’s the best army talent

[merry salmon]

Yeah. I honestly love its skills

[pure elm]

Gotcha

[merry salmon]

[leaden geyser]

Won't matter unless you get it to L60 first

Can't unlock unless elder

[pure elm]

Yeah I’m never getting it lmao

Too expensive

[plain void]

i also believe your stupid

[tardy parrot]

Why

[plain void]

cause this is obviously better

[tardy parrot]

cap. The trap defence ones better

[tardy parrot]

Not to mention the OP wall defence familiars

[left orchid]

Don't forget how strong your wall is

[deft bane]

How many tomes and how much might is it to go from 3 battle familiars slots to 4 battle familiars?

[open sand]

That's for tomes, might I'm unsure but you can workout from the wiki

[weary zephyr]

CAN ANYONE TELL ME HOW TO USE SKILL OF PACT4 FAMILIER TIDAL TITAN

CAN ANYONE SHARE ME VIDEO OF THAT ?

[open sand]

1. activate the ability
2. burn target
3. Castle ports randomly away

[pliant cobalt]

anyone know if counter damage is implemented into garg/bw/bon damage?

[jolly sun]

No

It isn't

[pliant cobalt]

hmm.. interesting, i do have to wonder why as you are hitting with that troop types attack

[jolly sun]

I dunno why but I tested if it changes depending on what type you hit and it doesn't

[pliant cobalt]

yeah, ive just been bashing my head against a wall again today trying to figure it out, The results i got last night are incredibly funky, and then the ones i got today just copied each other no matter the type i hit.

If this is the case then by it being "based" on the initial attack it actually has no correspondence to "type" of attack, meaning these familiars have a set base of damage they already do and then you just need to multiply that by what your troop attack % is to get the damage.

[jolly sun]

Well I'm glad counter don't increase it lol 1m pact5 DMG on my range on alt is bad enough don't need that increasing on inf rallies lol

[pliant cobalt]

I am quite sad about this honestly, takes the fun outta picking which familiar will counter a mix troop comp and instead just rock the one you have the highest attack on

[jolly sun]

Well it's also based on troop count so if you're sending 442 type comp to a fort 2xinf and range fams are going to work best

[pliant cobalt]

that would work best for a 442 as you are going to be stacking inf/range stats anyway

[jolly sun]

Basically you only adjust fams based on your comp and don't have to take into account what enemy sends when talking about pact5s

[pliant cobalt]

would of been more fun to slip a sneaky range one in for their say 749 send just to wipe a little more cav out, but nope... there goes that fun

anyway, thanks for replying and confirming, much appreciated

[weary zephyr]

means at any random place

[open sand]

Yep, basically a forced random relo

[green jungle]

can anyone explain why you would want to waste chaos cores on a skillstone for that?

[tender python]

It breaks all ongoing rallies on the target. Give you a chance to get the full zero if there's other guilds trying to steal your kills.

It can also be used during a multi-guild raid on a turf with lots of rss. You tidal the turf, port in, and hopefully cap some leads.

[open sand]

it's funny too

[opal notch]

Depends on the individual lol.
Personally I consider grim reaper a waste of cores

[green jungle]

yeah, only ones that are sort of worth it are black breath if you are a RL with actually-good stats, and bunny for obvious reasons.

[green jungle]

huh, I suppose there's that

[old wave]

How will you find the target after burning it? Should take over 20 minutes no? Is it still worth it?

[open sand]

good scouts i guess

[tender python]

Best way to do it is to have everyone in the rally begin randoming around the map immediately after the hit. You'd be surprised at how much ground can be covered rapidly by 11-20 people doing this.

[old wave]

That makes sense, though your guild may not be the first to locate it, some of your enemy guilds could be using advanced methods to locate your target

[vast willow]

Hi everyone

[dawn wigeon]

Hello

[random fern]

Anyone from 1125?

[celest jacinth]

If you are planning to unlock 4th familiar slot …what will you put in or start working on if you already have Acquaris , gryphon and (germlin, trickster , goblin) already maxed ….will you target the p5 ones or add in p2/p3 ones ?? I don’t mind waiting and target a p5 …just want to build a good rally trap familiar and plan what to do next

[night shell]

what familiar should i unlock after gryphon?

[vague vine]

It depends on your account I would go for pack 4 since that familiar is in pack 3 there are many good familiars in pack 3 for your account if you want the war one's keep working on the stacking because those are the cheapest you may have them maxed I don't know lol the pack 4 familiars are good in war also but cost a lot more then others

[zenith falcon]

hi,
I have a question
pet burner has the "extra supplies" skill
what is this?

[opal notch]

If you mean pyris, then the extra supplies skill increases the amount of free rss you get when you're zeroed

[zenith falcon]

thank you

[grizzled cobalt]

Hello

[turbid apex]

Anyone know what the difference is between Hell Drider Petrify and Tempesite Stun? Or is it just a fancy word?

[hot hound]

the only difrence is that the stun is longer with hell dirder and tempestie stun is less long

[turbid apex]

Thanks. I was hoping Petrify meant something more than Stun. Cost of brilliant orbs vs bright orbs. Works out a lot of money to get 4 extra seconds and have it take effect 3% troops earlier.

[knotty lichen]

💯

[hexed wind]

9016

[sacred glacier]

Wrong

[mellow ice]

Between bon appetit, Blackwing, and gargantua what is the best familiar to focus on for fighting?

[vast willow]

I am in 699

[vast willow]

Hi

[dawn wigeon]

Hi how are you

[foggy bay]

Hey

[plain void]

I have a question about p5’s if anyone has a spare second

If anyone has a rough estimate, how many tokens would it take to get another 102 runes?

[grizzled steppe]

seems to be about 2-3% chance of getting a pact, so probably 3400-5100 tokens

@plain void

[plain void]

Awesome thank you

[manic sky]

What would be the best familiars out of these for attacking

Got 3 slots btw

[young crypt]

1. Stacking ones, 2)Gryphon, 3)15% atk/-40% HP ones

[manic sky]

Ok Ty

[sacred glacier]

Will be more towards 5000. I got 159 bon pacts when I went through 8540 tokens. It’d be about 5478 for 102…who knows though, maybe my luck was trash

[green jungle]

Bon isn't too bad since you also get halos and bunny

Queen bee and frost are worst because you just won't need even close to that number of venoms

Unless you want two bumblehelms I suppose

[plain void]

Sucks because range is easily my best as I have trickstar maxed and have 80% more stats than my inf but my range p5’s are not even close

[green jungle]

Yeah igg wants us to get them all.;)

[sacred glacier]

Can put them towards hardened carapace at least 😬 only weaker than beastly breastplate but lunar boomerang better choice to go with anyway for hootclaw drops

[green jungle]

Lunar boomerang? Only if you buy champ, wayyyyy too costly

[sacred glacier]

Yeah my bad, should’ve mentioned that lol. I use range champ chest so no need for beastly breastplate

[green jungle]

Maxed temper dragon fist beats boomerang, too, and isn't that hard to get to level 10

(Whereas tempering boomerang will be quite costly because level 60, better use them on other items first )

[sacred glacier]

Yeah true. I temper a lot of my gear haha so boomerang probably next in line to temper…when I get it. Tore down my purple beastly breastplate after getting champ piece and didn’t get rare drops 😢 should’ve saved it

[pearl magnet]

Hello everyone, here 😉

[jolly maple]

Anyone have gluewitch familiar??

[spare parrot]

Hello everyone

[small acorn]

Hi everyone

[pearl magnet]

[teal torrent]

How much time does it take to max trickster and other pact 3 fams leaving gryphon?

[lofty arch]

Am level 20 not reached 21 yet which familiars should I be looking out for, which ones are the best

[thick elm]

The fat ones

[opal notch]

Military or support skills? If military skills then it depends on how fast you can get the orbs. If f2p, it'll take a long time of grinding.

As for support skills, just upgrade a few levels daily.. don't use too much fragments/runes tho. It's better doing it steadily

[opal notch]

Territe in pact 1 for extra fragments, then work on pact 2 fams with good support skills such as aquiris

[teal torrent]

Aquiris is of pact 1

[opal notch]

Do aquiris first then. You'll need the extra stamina to upgrade heroes. Basically focus on the fams that have good support skills first

[teal torrent]

I did aquiris I was just telling it's pact 1 because you write pact 2 there

[opal notch]

Yeah I understand lol.

[lament ocean]

Not sure if this is the right room for this but......I just unlocked T5 and was wondering if I should unlock my 5th familiar spot or move over to the Sigils tree? Our guild isn't doing much war at the moment

[plain void]

Imo the 4th and 5th slot is useless unless you are an actual rally lead, and if you guild isnt warring much then theres not too much point pushing sigils imo either

[zenith blaze]

First sigil is not that expensive and gives some nice stats

[solar crystal]

so closeeeee

[thin crater]

Can anyone explain me the real difference in army talents of Hell Drider and Tempestite? The only difference I can see is 3 seconds of lasting and 3% of troops when it launches, one petrifies, another one stuns, which means actually the same. And of course Drider is way more expensive to obtain. Is it worth investing orbs in Dirder? Has it so much bigger impact in a battle than a Tempestite?

[jolly sun]

Drider is meta for wow while tempestite only is used by f2p/low spender ACC's that don't have s proper familiar setup

But drider isn't really worth putting orbs into if you don't have your regular p5 fam skills maxed since the main use it's seeing is on the very high end

[serene hull]

Is there a difference between petrifies and stuns?

[snow zephyr]

is there any particular pack better for getting fragments? pack 1, 2, 3 or 4? I'm at the point where i just need fragments and not runes to level up p5 skills.

[green jungle]

just buy orb packs, do merging hell quests, and dismantle the runes

[sacred glacier]

Pack 4 will give the the most fragments, along with runes. But yeah as Foppe said, can just dismantle the runes for fragments

[snow zephyr]

thanks. just wasn't sure if there was one that was particularly better.

[ruby seal]

Don’t know if this is the right room to ask, but how do I get runes? I’m a f2p and trying to figure out the familiar game. Any help is appreciated.

[sacred glacier]

You get them when you open up pacts that you merge

[latent breach]

This fam talents seems good for a sólo trap or no? Like if ihave t3 frontline with 1.8m front it pop at 90k dmg (my game is in spanish but it give 60% range atk and 60% range hp during 15 secs

[green jungle]

yeah

[latent breach]

Better than stack familiar? Or better than 15% hp army?

[green jungle]

better than the latter, less useful than the former

[warm ether]

how much you need runes for hell drider maxed out

[green jungle]

1280

[silver jolt]

what are the best familiars to use?

[cerulean tree]

The familiar pact 3 margus mole shaman

Is it any usefull if you already max the basic pact 3

Like goblin and grphon

[dire obsidian]

V

Looking for South African Guild

[sacred glacier]

#🚫┊guild-finder-no-chat

[dusky vortex]

Only if you are wow lead. And jade wyrm is better than him

[civic reef]

🇵🇰👍😜

[grave solar]

Is there a inf familiar with these stats?

[real olive]

Yes

[grave solar]

What’s it called?

[sacred glacier]

Engineer

[grave solar]

Ok thanks

[untold prawn]

For a solo trap should I work on evil weevil or Aquiris first?

[tardy parrot]

Both

[untold prawn]

I know but I’m f2p can’t afford both at the moment.

[tardy parrot]

Both do the exact Same no difference

[grave solar]

You kinda answered your own question

If you know you can’t afford both then why ask if you should work on both

[keen fox]

مرحبا بالجميع

[untold prawn]

I wasn’t asking if I should work on both I was asking which one I should work on.

[mellow trench]

What is the most useful familiars early game?

[green jungle]

Aquiris and totempole

[ivory jolt]

Will we get brilliant talent orb from cargo ship? Currently I am getting bright talent orbs from cargo ship.

[hexed imp]

Nope we dont get yellow orbs from cargo ship

[dusky scroll]

For someone that probably won't buy orb packs and has two fam slots (three in the future) who would you focus on after maxing evil weevil and aquaris? I'm mostly a filler.

[ivory jolt]

Thank you

[dusky vortex]

Stackers,or 15% atk ones

[sacred glacier]

If you’re a filler, that means you won’t be attacking a lot…so is the question directed towards fams for defending? Seems like you are if talking about aquiris and weevil

[dusky scroll]

Mostly for defense, but I plan on doing a little attacking here and there

[sacred glacier]

Oh if defending, stacker fams aren’t recommended. Usually the last 3 fams people will pick for defending are either the ones that reduce enemy HP by up to 40% (when it’s maxed), or, if they have them, garg, bon appeti, and blackwing

[glacial venture]

At max how long does it take mole shaman to heal the wall fully? Is it 50% of the total wall at a time or 50% of the remaining damage?

[jolly sun]

50% of total

[leaden geyser]

At max level if ya have skill ready when wall down, then it would 24 hours to heal wall fully.

[grave solar]

Which one should I use for the third slot in my mix

Gryphon or gemming gremling

[open sand]

Gryphon for mix if attacking wonder or DA

For wall aquaris

[buoyant geode]

Can any one tell me from familer slot 4 to slot 5 how much might will increase

[steep ruin]

territe or aquiris? (for an account made 5 days ago)

[serene hull]

Aquiris

Territe is essentially useless

[lyric latch]

and Aquiris is one of the best familiars in the game

[sacred glacier]

When defending at least 👀

[remote root]

Anyone know the source for second pin? And if it is updated with the new ones that are missing here?

Hell drider and the R3 are missing

[lyric latch]

I am including the fact that the extra stamina rapidly develops you in terms of hero medals and speed ups as well

[lyric latch]

Oh and exp gain as well

[mossy obsidian]

How much chaos cores does the grim reaper skillstone costs

[mossy obsidian]

Many thanks

[brazen ore]

It’s about 200k gems for that skill stone right?^^

[green jungle]

if you pay gems, yeah

kinda crazy to do so tho

[sacred glacier]

Truee, really useful for starting out

[reef ridge]

Are there any good guides that go into best familiars for attacking and defending that includes all the new war skills that have been released in the past 6 months or so?

[green jungle]

couple thou

[charred hound]

Google.com

[solemn mist]

🇮🇩

[jolly sun]

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[plain void]

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[cinder thunder]

Go for it Nami

[plain void]

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[clear basin]

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[plain void]

[jolly sun]

facebook is worst scam ever

are you aware Dyno is a bot so you tagging it does nothing

[plain void]

@plain void

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[clear basin]

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[jolly sun]

[plain void]

[leaden geyser]

If I were to send a Tempestite and Hell Drider both in a march, will they target the same squad?

[grave thicket]

#🎁┊event-links

[leaden geyser]

No Comments? Lol

Is this worth it to max for WoW?

[tardy parrot]

Jade wyrm>this

[clear lotus]

sry to say this but seeing some testings none of these new fam skills are worth to get

[surreal bridge]

True 👍

[plain void]

Worth varies

[clear lotus]

Nah prove me wrong

Have seen tests. tested some myself still knocking stronger leads out with the usual fams which been used so far

[sacred glacier]

Personally in the tests I’ve done, I agree hell drider isn’t recommended, but have found success in using jade wyrm vs. gryphon

[tribal charm]

which familar can attack through shields? Someone told me about it but idk which one can do that

ohhh tysm

[sacred glacier]

Every familiar skill can attack through shields

[frozen hill]

From what % of attack are pact 5 familiars considered usefull ?

[brazen ore]

Over 200%

[versed citrus]

I just noticed that magus etc now has army talent for 60% atk and hp for 15 seconds when there is 5% fallen troops, is that good for defense rallies?

Or would something else be better (excluding t5 ofc)

[brazen ore]

it’s good for defense

[clear lotus]

depends on ur fams if there is something to replace with

level 3-4 and its worth putting in blasts

[dusky vortex]

Let's say you have 30m troops in castle for defense and you are running magus(range fam) .. And someone sents a cav rally on you.. If rally lead is good and you also have good gears. You might take losses 1.5m- 1.8m or less if you got mythic gears.. At 1.5m magus skill will come in action.. At that point it's almost the end of battle.. So I don't think they are good in defense..

They are good for range reinforcement traps that only have 3-4m range front..

ok my issue now..
What fam to use in mix/424/442/956.. I use them in arena mostly.. 3 slots.. I think gryphon is must.. So what else should I put in rest 2 slots..
I have acquiris,evil weevil (all 40% reducing hp fams). All stackers

[eager niche]

Who is coming to help me ? I want to know how many archaic tomes need to unlock familiar slot 5 i need full details with correct numbers how much need , in YouTube, google not have tried to find so much nobody knows , who can tell me

[hexed imp]

@eager niche

14.7k tomes for slot 5

[eager niche]

Check this how much i need now ?

@hexed imp

@hexed imp

@hexed imp help watch

How many archaic tomes need now?

[dusky vortex]

@eager niche you can check yourself it on lordsmobile wiki

[eager niche]

Wikipedia let me check thanks

@dusky vortex
Wikipedia not have information about famalir slot 5, you help me now

[dusky vortex]

It have.. it's not Wikipedia.. It's lordsmobile wiki

[hexed imp]

Around 5k

[jolly sun]

might from this is fun

[eager niche]

Great thanks let me check

[noble agate]

👍

[eager niche]

Still need 6394 archaic tomes oh god too hard , i am preferring slot 5 not t5 , still too hard but i do 😂

[jolly sun]

You have pact5 fams ? Otherwise slot 5 is pretty bad

[leaden geyser]

Slot 5 is useless unless got fams with Yellow orbs.

Better Sigil slots than fam slots if ya /your guild does WoWs and stuff.

[dusky vortex]

Better get t5

[plain void]

Slot 5 is harder than t5 w.r.t to tomes.

*and usefulness.

[eager niche]

T5 is useless everything is useless , the war damage is too high now

Few hours ago one big dad attacked 2.4B guy and the war damage is 12M + Soldiers , i can not understand what is IGG doing ,

[eager niche]

@plain void

[plain void]

That's not less but not too much either. I guess most of them are t2s, which make the might loss around 100M. That happens a lot of times, no big deal.

[dusky vortex]

You can still compete with big daddy's

[eager niche]

Too hard

[dusky vortex]

Not much

[plain void]

Jezu

[zenith blaze]

So IGG increased the resource cost for pacts by tenfold, when did that happen

[leaden geyser]

What Pacts

[zenith blaze]

Every pact, but it’s fixed now

[restive haven]

what are the best familiars for the wall ... 3 slots

[open sand]

Evil weevil, aquaris, then I guess a 15% atk fam like engineer or gnome depending on your normal front line formation

[timid swallow]

Does anyone know how much it takes for brilliant talent orbs for hell drider and jade wyrm’s army talent so i know what i need to get in regards to that? I at least know the unlock amounts

[brazen ore]

1600 to max

160 to unlock

[plain void]

What is the most cost efficient way to get fragments?

[spare topaz]

I guess it's merging pacts

[plain void]

I know that smart ass.

Which pact? Pact 1,2,3? To get more fragments easily

[brazen ore]

3-4

[clear lotus]

only 4
p3 is ass p2 p1 for farms...

[sage bane]

Sell runes

[plain void]

Thanks, being doing that for 500k gems event

[hexed imp]

I've maxed gryphon army talent
Which p4 familiar should I work on next?
I'm a gryphon trap.

[plain void]

Gryphon trap still works?

[broken moat]

Has anyone done any testing with jade wyrm familiar talent for trapping any?

[broken moat]

Yeah if you're not messing with high end players

[plain void]

For f2p,shield fam of your frontline.

[dusky vortex]

Eather trap uses it on his account. He did testing as well .

[hexed imp]

The original one have less chances.
I've 3m t2+t1 and i use X3 scout and leave 50k t4 each. They start rally and when they kill all my troops they start farming with t4/5 and i pull gryphon

I tried the original method to just hide all the troops and empty my castle that did not work

[hexed imp]

Got it

[night shell]

hell driver vs bon(127/200) vs shield familiar, what should i start working on or saving up for
(attack skill)

[open sand]

bon for attacking

[night shell]

then why do ppl keep saying hell better for attacking

[night shell]

so i should save up for bon rather than opening hell or shield familier such as saber?

[open sand]

i got bon for rallying and wonders as it activates on 4% fallen plus 600% is a ton of dmg depending on your stats. i'm not too familair with hell drider new ability as i not bothered unlocking until i finish my queen bee

[night shell]

okay

thanks

[restive haven]

what r the best f2p familiars .. for atk blasts and mix on the wall

[quartz relic]

weevil aquiris both hp both cheap

[hasty oriole]

Suggest me F2p wall familiar

[frigid arch]

For wall defence pact 3 nugget one

[night shell]

In blast attacking what’s familiar to use

Like in ranking them

[night shell]

Which one is better

Rating them from best to worst?

[jolly sun]

I like jade and shield best out of these + stacking fam and 2 p5

Jade is best out of all of the ones you posted pics of

Range blast setup as an example

[night shell]

I don’t have pact 5 yet

But close to getting bon

So what the the best 4 out of these?

[night shell]

Pact 5 and stacking are a must that’s why I didn’t put them

[jolly sun]

And if you want a ranking of the stuff you posted jade - 1 , snow beast -2, gryphon 3, mole shaman 4, sorcerer 5, tempestite 6, aquiris 7, engineer 8, weevil 9, jaziek 10

[leaden geyser]

Mastercook?

[jolly sun]

I don't have him

[jolly sun]

He's one of the heroes I decided I don't care enough about to get

0/50 green currently

[leaden geyser]

Okay

[olive reef]

Are does familiar ok for my turf defence

[lyric latch]

good start. You may want to look at Evil Weevil for hp

[zenith blaze]

What are the best familiars to add on wall. Already have aquiris and weevil. HP cutters or the new ones that add att/hp when 4% fall or any others?

[olive reef]

But I have only the spot for families

Which on the u suggest i remove then?

[olive reef]

Three spots

[weak jackal]

@olive reef Most familiar on the wall is depend on your Phalanx or wedge you are going to defence with you could set it as a worst case situation like if you get counter

[olive reef]

Ok

[shy timber]

You need atk fams for your wall and ones that boost your hp....decreasing enemy's hp might not give such a good result while defending

[formal musk]

How do you use familiars

[tribal hazel]

What are the odds of getting a good or at least a purple atk jewel out of this

[tribal hazel]

Well there are basically three things familiar gives : passive boosts ( the stats you get from the familiar skill like troop ark or RSS production which work even if your familiar is not battle), support skills (also skills you level up but which usually give something once a day or once every two days like you can see in the screenshot I sent) and finally but most importantly army talents. The last ones only active if your familiar is in battle.

Each familiar have his own set of skills and talents. Higher pact fams have better stats and talents

@formal musk

Ask if you need to know anything more

[formal musk]

Ok thanks IOJO

[tribal hazel]

Np

[zenith blaze]

Very rare

[thorny chasm]

Sometime when we upgrage familiar skills, the XP increase by 5x or 2x. Is it random or how do i make sure i get 5x all the time?

[weak jackal]

@tribal hazel I had that familiar max for 2 months now and the best jewel I ever gotten was 3 blue atk jewel

[waxen gate]

It is random.

[low kettle]

What are good fams to put on your wall for defending?

[open sand]

Aquaris, evil weevil, a 15% atk from start like gnome depending on your front line

[low kettle]

Thanks

[tribal hazel]

Eevil weevil , aquaris and for the third one you can use Gryphon if your comp is not huge

[low kettle]

I mean it's not huge but I got 15.2m troops

[atomic hearth]

What are best atk familiars to get as an f2p...till pact3

[nova quiver]

Aquarius and evil weevil

Get those first for hp

[atomic hearth]

Okk

I have the stackers yet..will work on aquiris n evil then

[nova quiver]

They should be pact 1

But still are both good and used by many

[atomic hearth]

Okayy

[nova quiver]

Aquarius decreases enemy army hp, evil weevil increases your hp

[atomic hearth]

How much to max out the army skill bro

[atomic hearth]

Nice

[nova quiver]

However many orbs it is to open x10

[atomic hearth]

Yes do u have the number?

[nova quiver]

Think 200 maybe 400 I can’t remember

[atomic hearth]

I have about 500

Oh

[nova quiver]

They are easy to max for f2p

I’ve done it on a lot of accs

[atomic hearth]

Would be hard for me I don't have much orbs yet lol

[nova quiver]

Just do gf and complete kvk when they have the orbs and do the exchange events

That’s how I did it then you get some from cargo ship too

[atomic hearth]

I did exchange 2x this time 30orbs

[atomic hearth]

Cargo ship is clown all I get is captain trade

[nova quiver]

You’ll get them eventually

[atomic hearth]

Let's see=)

[nova quiver]

Do Aquarius first then evil weevil

Then have them on your wall

[atomic hearth]

Okayy..will unlock it first

[nova quiver]

Their ability starts at the start of battle

Not when a % of your troops die which is good

[atomic hearth]

I have only 2 slots now...what should I keep there...stackers or aquiris

I'm not planning to unshield so wall aint a problem

[nova quiver]

Stackers are not the best for wall as they will activate when a portion of your troops die

[atomic hearth]

I need to get through trialbyfire and darknests haha

[nova quiver]

But for blasts use stackers for the correct troop type

[atomic hearth]

Ah ok

[nova quiver]

But defence use Aquarius and evil

[atomic hearth]

Yeah helps in tbf

Ok

[brazen ore]

What ever it is to unlock it ex: it takes 40 to get to lvl 1 then just 10x it and that’s how much it takes to max

[tribal hazel]

How much does it cost to max out all 6 p5 fams?

[dusky vortex]

Well it's been a year and yes it have gave me 1 legendary inf atk jewel plus a lot of rares and epic atk jewels. So the drop rate is kinda good.. not bad but yeah some times the drop is just too dry

[dusky vortex]

Evil weevil and acquiris both cost 400 each

[leaden geyser]

The Info looks a bit outdated.

Hell drider costs 1280.

[tribal hazel]

Not the orbs lol. I mean the medals for p5

[brazen ore]

$1 each medals if you buy them with just the $5 pack or you buy coins and get through tycoon

[tribal hazel]

How much should I expect from Tyccon if I use let's say 100 tokens

[brazen ore]

Get roughly 30 of each (the 2 that are in rotation) out of 1k and you get rare mats with it as well.

[atomic hearth]

Nice observation vro

[atomic hearth]

Thx=) the chart u shared helps

[dusky vortex]

[sick crater]

Hey guys damaging wall automatically damage trap

Or wall will get damage after traps

[dusky vortex]

It goes side by side

If wall goes down quickly then your traps won't get that much of a hit.. But if wall is going down slowly (usually in new kingdoms). Your traps do more Dmg and take more dmg

It's useful only in the start of game later traps are just useless

[young crypt]

Which familiar better to awake?Noceros Or Tempestite?
Have enough red orbs to work on only 1 familiar.

Can take upto Lv.5 .

I have maxed stacking fams, maxed 15% atk fams, maxed reduce HP fams all 3 types.

[dusky vortex]

Noceros to make your cav strong. Temperature is good for all type.. But noceros is better for cav than temlestite

Just be patient and work on noceros

[plain void]

Hey Guys, is there anything like an bot like in Line, where i can see wich Familiar ist best for attacking in rng/kav/inf?
Im not sure if its better to boostbmy troops or downgrade Anemy's

[desert moth]

How many tomes are needed to upgrade familiar slot to familiar 5

[tribal hazel]

I don't think there is. But tell us your options maybe we can help

[gloomy hare]

Hi guys!
Plz how to summon familiars into a battle?

[dusky vortex]

Unlock slots in familiar battle research tree and unlock familiar army talents.. and put them in your march

What fam to work with brilliant orbs after maxing out gryphon.. f2p..

[willow osprey]

Hell drider or Mega maggot. Would probably go with hell drider

[dusky vortex]

Okay

[sacred glacier]

ehhh honestly i would place priority on doing shield fams over hell drider....also jade wyrm better than hell drider

[leaden geyser]

They talking F2P so I doubt Jade is possible lol

And hell drider is not that bad tbh considering shield fams. are only 1 type while Drider can use in all blasts + mix.

[sacred glacier]

ooh yeah just saw the f2p thing now lol. my bad

[sacred glacier]

yeah true hell drider better for diverse troop type, while shield fams only effective for certain troop type and therefore less chance of being used...

i guess if doing rallies and darknests, i think of shield fams being ideal. but if defending against someone...shield fams not as ideal and hell drider indeed better choice

[dusky vortex]

I can get jade though from gf.. As f2p orbs will also be pain.. So hell drider or jade? Considering I won't be able to max out fast so . Who's better in like mid-level

[leaden geyser]

Well I expect ya to have Jade at elder in about 3-4 years then. Lol

[dusky vortex]

I can expect 5 pacts per gf.. and it's like 10/200 right now.. So probably 2 years Lmao

[crisp meteor]

Slow rolling the 5$ packs is also very long

[leaden geyser]

At least 20$ in that is decent if buy with coupon.

Slow rolling without any coupon will take about 40 weeks I think.

[leaden geyser]

Like for a P2P hero it's just not worth. 15 in 5 and then 18 in 20 version.

[dusky vortex]

What would be the best familiar set up for a range frontline trap? 4 slot..
Trickstar,Magus, Sorcerer, Snow beast.. Is this good?

[weak jackal]

Ywhat a range fronting trap

[dusky vortex]

Who have more t2 range then other 2 types like 8m inf/cav t2 and 15m range t2

Mainly built to take multiple rallies at a time

[snow zephyr]

does bunny work also, if you garrison against a rally? never tried.

[sacred glacier]

if you garrison w/ leader against rally and get capped, yeah bunny saves you if have it activated. personally i don't think it's the best way to use a bunny...but can be fun to try and bounce rallies sometimes

[snow zephyr]

good to know, was curious since i never tried it. wasteful kinda, but kinda fun to be able to bouce a rally

thanks!

[sacred glacier]

i agree, and no problem

[weak jackal]

Does this stat activate if I use like a range atk familiar
And does it have to be range atk or can it activate for range hp or def etc.....

[zenith blaze]

I think it activates when you use a familiar in an attack, doesn’t matter which one

[weak jackal]

So it doesn't work on defence

[zenith blaze]

I think so as it is also combat, so I would guess it is involved in an attack. Only you are on the defense

[median cloud]

If u have unlocked at least one familiar battle stat it will be effective. You can retire familiars from your wall but in true if you do and does a test after you see your familiar still on wall.

So if till your fam with battle stats aren’t outside turf at moment you get attacked normally it should be good

[dusky vortex]

It does . You just need to put familiar on your wall

[stone dawn]

How I train our familiars quickly

Yes

[dusky vortex]

If want a specific fam . Train him only

If want multiple make more gym and distribute your heroes equally.. 2 or 3 will be optimum

[stone dawn]

Yes I want

[weary zephyr]

Anyone know how many times will be used in familiar slotr

Slot4

[zenith blaze]

3335 tomes

[heady dew]

what is the best way to get chaos cores

[open sand]

Tycoon, packs, exchange extravaganza

[heady dew]

which tycoon cycle has them?

[leaden geyser]

Few hell events has it too.

[jolly sun]

All do

For me at least despite buying tokens every time they are out + the 5$ version of chaos core pack I get most of my cores from gemming them. A good chunk comes from the membership points as well after I get my 8 bootcamps.

[woeful sluice]

How to level up familiar fast ?

[brisk thorn]

I just got the pyris🤩

[analog roost]

👍

[brisk thorn]

Guys does hellfire familiar skill kill all troops in the infirmary, I'm not sure about the 100%

[dusky vortex]

When someone hits you with an attack and use blackwing skill. The troops that should go to infirmary. (Depends on infirm space) . Will be dead forever. Not even scauntury will save them

[brisk thorn]

i know it also kills garrisoned and reinforced troops but is it all because it says 100% but I'm still not sure

[dusky vortex]

It's just like you're defending with no infirms

[jolly sun]

blackwing works on both garrison and turf

[dusky vortex]

[subtle crest]

If I can use 4 familiars for a rally which should I use? For Archer's Infantry and Cavalry? Please Help!

[jolly sun]

Cav = gargantua , frostwing , goblin , jade wyrm
Inf = bon appetit , Huey hops , gemming gremlin , jade wyrm
Range = Blackwing , Queen bee , trickstar , jade wyrm

[weak jackal]

How about giving me some f2p familiar up to pact 4 for each troop unit

[dusky vortex]

Stacker(goblin/gremlin/trickstar)
Gryphon
Evil weevil/acquiris/40% hp debuff
Magus/mole shaman/noceros

[river umbra]

😑

[leaden geyser]

1st P2P maxed finally ;))

[plain void]

Best F2P familiars for Cav Blast

[tribal hazel]

Yeti, stacking familiar, gryphon

[sharp flame]

Shield is much better

IGG ID. 1436640352

[grave thicket]

Wrong channel. #1078220934319710318 is the one you need

[safe wasp]

What do familiars even do?

[primal goblet]

How do I hire familiar? I have 2 in my stables but I cannot deploy them or use them defensivly

I have to awaken their talent first?

[tawdry comet]

IGG ID 1094397548

[coral python]

How to get one of those

[leaden geyser]

Tycoon, Packs, Chalice Points or Bargain Store.

[open sand]

Chest of pacts best in grand celebration pack for frostwing

[tribal hazel]

You need to upgrade them to max stage (elder) In order to use their army talents.

You also need to spend orbs to unlocking it

[tribal hazel]

Lots of things. They give passive stats (rss production, army stats, travel speed and more) with their skills. They provide some useful active skills like the bunny (allows your leader to escape if it's getting capped in the next 30 minutes) . Most importantly tho is their army talents. They help a lot in battles but the strongest ones are impossible to get f2p

Well theoretically possible but you'd need like 10 years

[trim flower]

Idle setup of building for familiars?

[dusky vortex]

It depends

[trim flower]

For new players

[dusky vortex]

For war or for growing?

[trim flower]

Growing

[dusky vortex]

Acquiris, totempest, harpy,
Gremlin, goblin, trickstar, hoarder, hell drider

You can skip pact2 fams if you have unlocked pact3 quickly

[opaque citrus]

Can anyone make me clear about the mole Shaman skill...it heals 50% of my wall hp...So suppose my max wall hp 1M...But my wall has currently 0 hp and I use the skill so it will become 500k and when I use it the next day it will give me 50% of 1M hp or 50% of the remaining 500k hp?

[dusky vortex]

It will give 50% of 500k

I think mine is at 10% never noticed

[jolly sun]

It heals based on max wall hp not on missing hp

So at max 2 clicks to full heal

[weak jackal]

Yes 50% + 50% equal complete:->

[dusky vortex]

Nice looks like need to max it

[opaque citrus]

Yeah, you are right...I researched a bit in yt...It will 50% of 1M only...So it's easy now to participate in DA...

[prime niche]

Which are the best 4 familiars for infantry?

[dusky vortex]

Bon, bunny, gremlin, hoarder

Pure inf fam. You can use wyrm too if have

[prime niche]

Thanks

[prime niche]

Well, I am f2p ahahah

So I can't use bunny too

Any other familiar?

[dusky vortex]

Gremlin, mole shaman, gryphon

[prime niche]

Thanks

What about harpy?

[dusky vortex]

Good can use at 4th fam space but I think it will be a bit costly for a f2p to up all of them as f2p

[prime niche]

Thanks

[trim flower]

Which setup would be better? Help...

[dusky vortex]

2 spire 1 gym rest spring

[trim flower]

Thanks bro👍

[tribal hazel]

I use 1 spire 3 gyms rest is spring

[dusky vortex]

For starter 1 gym is okay because they don't have much heroes to distribute among multiple fams

[trim flower]

My most are also white

Heros

[trim flower]

I built in this format

[strong atlas]

I found the quickest way to get runes and fragments once you have pact 3 open +magnus maxed use this set up 1 spire 1 gym rest springs added bonus max out merge speed 3 and gym training 3 doing them is like having an extra spring and gym

For hell events this set up will cost you the least amount of speeds to complete

[zealous bough]

Fastest way to level up familiar because i all p4 fam now with max copy but leveling up is a crazy headache as a f2p it is going to a year to max out all ༎ຶ⁠‿⁠༎ຶ

[dusky vortex]

More than a year

[hexed imp]

Not long, just a decade.

[restive haven]

best p2f on wall plz

4 slots

[proper pasture]

Thank you very much 😄

[dusky vortex]

Gargantua, bon appetti, blackwing, jade wyrm

[hexed imp]

[untold prawn]

What 4 f2p familiars should I have on my wall?

[vast cypress]

it kind of depends on what kind of comp you have. if it's a bigger comp avoid the stacking familiars and go for army stat ones like evil weevil and aquiris

[untold prawn]

This account I’m going for around 2-3m each t4 and around 8m each t2

[brave stump]

yooo would noceros be better than gryphon ina cav rally

[dusky vortex]

Can be

[brave stump]

tf you mean can be

[craggy sapphire]

when does frostwing appear in tycoon?

[tribal hazel]

I think gryphon still better

[teal jungle]

It doesn't

Lab only

Omg wait. This is familiar channel 😂😂😂
Sorry, frost wing pacts come with bee venom I think

[dusky vortex]

Why dont use both

[grave thicket]

?warn @rigid trellis advertising is still not allowed

[clear basin]

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[rigid trellis]

Ok

Hii

[untold prawn]

What’s best familiar for a t3 range front solo trap?

[brave stump]

lack of slots. We got the two p5 ones, stacking, and shield. Only room for one more.. either noceros or gryphon.

[brave stump]

hmm okay bet

[hexed imp]

Which one is good?
I'm a range front

[plain void]

magnus

range atk and hp

[hexed imp]

Gotcha thanks

[hexed imp]

Range front rally trap
Which familiar combo is effective?

[smoky wadi]

2nd

[hexed imp]

Gotcha, thanks

[plain void]

wont weevil and aquiris together be better?

[open sand]

2nd, gryphon is very situational

[hexed imp]

[smoky wadi]

depends on his comp. if hes very fat yes, but i doubt he is

[smoky wadi]

@hexed imp

[hexed imp]

20m
Heavy range.

[smoky wadi]

yeah 2nd better then. spirit sacrifice pops at 1m troops lost which you will 100% take even if you counter

[hexed imp]

That's nice
Thanks

[smoky wadi]

np

[untold prawn]

Is it worth unlocking 3rd familiar slot on a solo trap?

[hexed imp]

Yes

More familiar= less damage

[olive reef]

Those familiar are ok for war defense as a f2p right

[olive reef]

Pyris, evil weevil and acquiris

[opaque citrus]

Nah...pyris is not good

It's only good for attacking

If someone sends buffers then your pyris attack will be wasted on those

[hexed imp]

It's not even good for attacking lol
It's a bad familiar both defending and attacking

[opaque citrus]

Well then I don't know much
...

[dusky vortex]

If heavy range front why don't use magus, sorcerer and trickstar?

[hexed imp]

Trickster bad for defending
Magus and sorcerer good

[smoky wadi]

It is good for attacking

I use it when sending leaderless range to solo down Cav fronts. It’s the best

[olive reef]

Ok thanks

[zinc dawn]

Hi

[flint prairie]

Can anyone pls share the recommended set up for mix, inf, rally and cav blast?

[dusky vortex]

For How many fam slots

[flint prairie]

5

[dusky vortex]

Cav :- Goblin, jade wyrm, saberfang, frostwing, gargantua
Inf :- gremlin, hoarder, jade wyrm, huey hops, bon appetti
Rng :- trickstar, snow beast, jade wyrm, queen bee, blackwing

For mix it's very situational

[flint prairie]

Ty

[desert sentinel]

I am new at IGG I don't know how to unlock the familiar & their slot

[trim flower]

Research familiar tree and clear Skirmish stage 8

[vivid eagle]

Does anyone have any info or tests on using jade over gryphon?
Is it just always better or is it better when you have higher or lower stats

[dusky vortex]

Crystal brief did a test on that you can watch the video on his channel

[vivid eagle]

Thanks

[untold prawn]

Would switching to magus or sorcerer be better on a range front solo trap or should I stick with Aquarius and weevil

Also would unlocking pact 3 and familiar slot 3 be a good idea since I already have around 50m base might

[hexed imp]

Aquarius and weevil are must. If you're going to unlock slot 3 then go with magus

[vestal skiff]

Hello

[short kestrel]

How much money would it cost to upgrade all the familiar army talents to max?

[short kestrel]

I just calculated 1,120 if I buy the red orbs from the $5 & $20 pack “ A night of mystery”

[dusky vortex]

Costly

[leaden geyser]

If ya go slow it won't be that costly. Double Coupons, Ship trades, Hell events and other events help out a lot.

Yellow orbs are costlier however.

[short kestrel]

Double coupon’s definitely cuts this in half literally

[tribal field]

I need speed up any possibility help me out?

[obtuse ivy]

Guys how will I use my familiar in battle?

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[dusky vortex]

Unlock familiar slot from research and unlock 1 familiar army talent. Then you can use

[leaden geyser]

No need put IGG ID everywhere

[junior pagoda]

Should i concentrate on maxing trickstar, gemming gremlin & goblin for army talent or finish shaman, magus & noceros first?

[leaden geyser]

Former

[broken stream]

Hiw to fast unlock familier

[dusky vortex]

Spend money

[brisk thorn]

😂

[copper heath]

Well easiest way to get orbs is do hell events

You get 5 red orbs ig per hell event if you are active

Other sources are gf and kvk

[unreal oasis]

What's one familiar I should get to elder ( ONLY in pacts 1, 2 and 3)
For war related help

[dusky vortex]

Gryphon/trickstar/goblin/gremlin

[mellow ether]

Can anyone describe me what crabby familiar do in battle? Like what that army def boost do in battle? Does it work for attacking too?

[dusky vortex]

Na don't do def it isn't good

[tribal hazel]

More Def means the damage received gets reduced but DEF in this game is just not worth it. Good if you can get it but it's not even close to Army Hp and Army atk so don't sacrifice those to get Def

[plain void]

How many orb for gryphon army talent 1to10

[leaden geyser]

Crop it for $ prices.

[plain void]

[plain void]

sponsor me yellow orbs

[open sand]

no you sponsor me

[stone dagger]

Is this not concerning?

[blissful cloak]

Bkm

[wispy pike]

Hello

[stone dagger]

-_-

[open sand]

Nah, it's lordsmobile although 1+1 makes cheaper

[stone dagger]

Oh come on LOL

[analog stream]

Hi

[dark ruin]

Hey, do someone know wich comp is better ? For cav blast

[hexed imp]

1st one

[dark ruin]

And i Guess i'll remove the noceros when i will be able to put the 2nd p5 ?

[hexed imp]

Yes

[hoary vapor]

Which best f2p familiar

[copper heath]

Depends on the requirement

[pure elm]

Anyone know if pyris is good for def?

[crisp meteor]

No, really bad, also bad for attack

[grave thicket]

dont say sorry for being a pro in training, everyone has to start somewhere

i should say sorry cuz idk much about familiars and walls and stuff

[hexed imp]

Use deadly tip and cav one(lvl3 guy) for now and
Work on aquiris and evil weevil
They are important on wall especially when you're f2p

[karmic comet]

Anyone can give me the best familiars for my castle defending? I want a mixbalance of familiars

[dusky vortex]

Magus/mole shaman/noceros

A bit costly for f2p

[raven temple]

Hmm

[quaint orbit]

anyone know off the top of their head how many orbs I need to max the 3 stacking fams?

[crisp meteor]

x10 the unlocking cost

[quaint orbit]

oh! Thanks!

[crisp meteor]

800

[quaint orbit]

Yup, thank you!

So, I'll need 10 packs. $50... Nice

[dusky vortex]

800 each stacker

[grand marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/cry-sad-gif-25488313

[foggy crystal]

What should I get between these too?
Or save up for Evil Weevil

[hexed imp]

Are you attacking more or defending more?
Eevil weevil is good for defending and works okayish for attacking if you don't have any other good familiars

[foggy crystal]

Attacking more on darknest

[jolly sun]

Does this work for this mofo too ? I don't remember if p5 started same or were 160 for lvl1

[crisp meteor]

Yes they are 160, but x10 still works on him afaik

[jolly sun]

so he's cheaper nice 😮

[leaden geyser]

1280

P2P Pact 5s are 1600. And there no other out except Drider but I assume the other 3, if they ever came with Army Talent, should be 1280 too.

[plain void]

best way to get p5 to lvl60?

[jolly sun]

tycoon

[last garden]

Anyone know gold orb pack amounts/ cost. I know it starts at $19.99. How often does it normally come?

[leaden geyser]

20$ = 100 Orbs, 50$ (scale up) = 250 Orbs. Then disappear.

That pack is very regular. May be 4-5 times a week.

[grave thicket]

#🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat

[twilit chasm]

The Pact 5 fams say that they target the "largest enemy squad". Is "largest" defined by Might or Troop Count?

For example...if I am defending and have 4m t2+1m t4 Infantry and have 2m t2+2m t4 Cavalry, will the pact 5 familiars hit my Inf or my Cav?

[brazen ore]

it targets biggest troop count

[copper heath]

Ur infanty

[versed gate]

How many days of speeds will pact 4 take to unlock starting from 0?

[brazen ore]

It depends on your research speed and how many technos u want to use

[worn lily]

Whose battle skill should i unlock first as an f2p player. I was thinking of working on evil weevil but still looking for suggestions first

[hexed imp]

Aquiris @worn lily

[worn lily]

Alright. Thanks

[red solstice]

How much time effect and atk gives lvl3 Gryphon?

[plain void]

Harpy Evil Weevil and Mole Shaman good for T3 inf front always sitting in wedge solo trap

[drowsy trail]

What's the best way to get red orbs

[foggy crystal]

Events

[hexed imp]

Hell event, exchange extravaganza, gems and packs

[foggy crystal]

U forgot KvK

[hexed imp]

[last garden]

Thoughts on adding jade to pvp rallies?

[jolly sun]

in this setup 100% it's much better than weevil

if it's an inf blast swapping songstress for oath keeper would also help

[crisp meteor]

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[indigo sundial]

754060446

[grave thicket]

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[clear basin]

Lisa rex#9708 has been warned. || advertising is not allowed

[grave thicket]

zombie no. 50

[indigo sundial]

It was a mistake

[glass orbit]

How to speed up the training of familiar

[dusky vortex]

Train 1 at a time if you want that familiar skill as soon as possible

[untold prawn]

My stacking familiars are level 7 should I keep upgrading them or should I max out Aquarius first?

[primal mason]

Which familiars stack ?

4 offense

[untold prawn]

Trickster goblin and gremlin I mainly just do dn with them