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I got spider 8 on those
Now just doing t5s to try to drop the rng drop for equipment
And other mats to craft final tier of bow for the slayer
you need loads of mosquito for pet
:)
Can I get some inspiration for a 424 setup please? Champ. F2P And Mixed?
I always say most people if you don't know what you're doing, 857+ range phalanx and you'll win because your opponent is an idiot
That's like really basic shit
122 heroes ofc
Haha. Yes and no. I always use my 424 variant which i ask for 749 comp... But. Blast wise. This set is more Def/holding. I want one for hitting. I have a 055, and 208 for hitting. A basic 442 one too. But. PvP always been my thing and still learning alot on wonders. So always looking. Changing. Trying out new things.
Well imo the most flexible comp is infantry march T5+767 from fillers
And stay cav phal
Assuming your guild doesn't fill with 100% T5 , there's hidden advantages for this , like the tendancy for people to cav phal higher amount of T5 inf just because your lead march is T5 only
Setup is 122 heroes ( rose knight not storm fox)
Bunny frostwing or bon , jade , cav shield and drider or gryphon
I'm still using that comp ( on accounts with 4m wonder and enough stats ofc) to this day
Been 2-3 years now
whatās the best mix setup for my situation, I usually do 424 in range Phal. My range and inf stats + familiars are about equal. Main purposes: dragon arena, guild exp, and defending rallies
adding blackwing soon to replace either stacking or hp + atk one
122 heroes
RNG shield
what does that mean sorry
Instead of stacker
1 inf hero 2 range 2cav
Replace drider with blackwing when complete
I donāt have any shield heroes as Iām saving orbs for the pact 5ās

Okay forget pact 5 and max out RNG shield
wait is that not 122 now
You should've done at least one shield for your wall
It might be I don't really looked at ss
is shield useful for mix attack too
Yes
Yes
I donāt really get rallied tbh
Shields real good wall and mix
Shields useful for everything
so skip blackwing and upgrade snow beast ?
Blast , mix, wall
Also is the champ jewel purple
Yes after the snow beast is done start BW
yes but will replace with gold atk when I get more jewels
For now yes
should I defend in inf instead
No
RNG phal is the best against mix rallies if wall down
so range phal + get snow beast ?
Yes
what about dragon arena + guild exp
And remove that stacker
Wall down also
WdyM
Your castle has wall
I mean for forts
Wdym I've also got one on my wall
For forts use something like 857
Oh my lady
And may I ask why
thatās the ideal in most scenarios?
sorry Iām a bit clueless quit for years and came back ahaha
I need a go to setup mostly for fort battles 1v1 during events
just events for my guild
Just know 424 variants and frontline manipulation
If you have stronger dudes let them do it you will just lose more than you need to
itās about 600 600 550 rn
New kd?
my guild quite chill, we donāt have any leads really
but I knew them from before I quit so just here for vibes
So it's open kd
nah itās open
Your stats are so low to do fort
Maybe in da you can take a transporter or something but I doubt you are going to take an ancient remains
just dragon arena and exp mostly
we get ranked with equal so it works for me, my guild got no other leads lol
It's not based on guild might it's based on the amount of cups
So you never know who will be your enemy or how strong
yes, but we really suck š
I can see
no one else even have a single pact 5
Are they f2p?
mostly, but itās a farming guild
even the big might ones suck
bro almost 3b might and fail darknest LV 6
Lol
šš
Ultimate farmer
oh dear, he got death knight as leader and maxed tempered winter parka
anyways I have no choice but to lead for now :p
thanks for the tips will upgrade snow beast asap
Just do 857 , gryphon familiar included, use 1 inf hero, 2 range 2 cavalry ( the ones with army atk, normal atk and normal HP) and use range Phalanx
You'll win 90% of your battles and you don't have to know why
Set up 857 ratio in your battle hall and tell everyone to send as recommended, easy
If they don't have T5 they can't send recommended
get about half filled t5 currently
I will test it tonight on DA
can you check my screenshot heroes rq, it should be 122
I donāt have any p2p heroes gold
It's 122
Do you think he has T5?
Also finish one familiar at a time , lvl9 fam is useless @drifting hazel
Yes I think
yesss
P5s too ? I thought they are good at lvl 9
No
They're all ass except jade
Ayoo congratulations š shit's hard
I don't think we needed to know about your shit being hard


Hy
Pease someone know about jelwes try to DM me, I have some questions about that, Thanks..!
do I dump monster astra into ring now? Also when do I replace ring once I get third cup?
Why replace the ring
If it works, don't fix it
Keep ring over third cup?
I mean yes you can
Blow the ring sky high with astra. Gonna be same cost on the 3rd cup with astra so could honestly leave it
Sky high as in go all the way to +15?
Why the need to dump Astra anywhere? Are you focusing on a specific set ?
You can work on a piece that is multi purpose, it is used in multiple sets
From your jewels, it looks like you use a piece in different sets so prioritise what set are you focusing on, rather than a piece ⦠based on the sets you want to focus, it will get clear which pieces are important, then use your astralite there
Keep
Ok bet
Don't keep ring
3 cups is still strong af
As for astra , I think doing mitts 15 is your way
Cups to 3 , skull crusher to 6
Is a gold cup already better? Or only when mythic
Mythic
Sounds good thanks bossman
Make a faith and replace skull crusher with emp main hand
Is there any cheap pre-60 war gear I can make that's worth it? I'm lvl58 and so far I have a couple fear drums, dragon fist, and a burning scroll
Winter parka
And I am 100% serious actually
It is good , until you get gold Trojan armor
Thank you I appreciate it
Worth getting to mythic or nah?
And what if you get emp chest
Wasting 2 bells for it eh
Yes
What is wasting if you need to get fist anyway
And it's not bells you lack later...
And if lucky you can break it and get back your bells š
Ikr
And you need to get +15 mitts anyway
And you need those rares for talons first
I have both fist and mitts and my mitts outperform my fist anytime
No
Fist is better, and talons aren't optimal as legs
How do you know that
+14 mitts Vs my +7 fist lol
And anytime I used my fist I got worse outcomes
Only use for fist is that I can use it in my fake set at least

Well duh
+7 mitts is worse than +14 mitts too
Who's cheap
Mitts

If you were to assume 1% army HP= 1% range atk=1 % cav atk , fist is better
But cav atk is more important than that
Here's parka
Who even needs atk 
Better than purple Trojan imo which most f2ps -
I mean I'm looking for more hp than more atk but that might be just a personal preference
And burn on the first rallu
Do you use goblin or black crow
Also don't you have carumbaa comp ? You don't have a lot of troops
Snow queen
That's true for some WoW comps
Only 1 range hero?
That's true for defending my castle 
I still haven't made troops lol I don't even have curamba comp I have pure t4
Look at how many troops you have 
I ran out of astra
Exactly just make a good comp
And than don't even put your gear on unless it's a max account hitting you

And I'm 600% mix already with just 300 troop Hp and 430 army hp so I really need that hp more than some atk
Especially when I will only have 1 champ piece and 0 champ jewels most likely so hp comes from limited sources
Last time I got rallied guy thought I swapped front on him cuz he noodled so badly while getting a full counter into no gear
There are comps that burn low atk enthusiasts
I even didn't fury so he would get a better hit
They aren't burning me 
Kill inf quicker you'll get less damage
80%-90% damage is done by inf sometimes
Trust me
Or I can just do my cav artifacts which I'm missing get the atk from those and still have that amount of hp so p5 actually hurts a bit less
Idk which account you're talking about, but it burns 70m+ on not Max accounts
I capped a full T5 2.6m from 2200 lvls full +15 while leaderless
And I had wall up
Might be his inf ACC
But I mean you do realise why that's not relevant here if you can break other rules ( wall up) and still do well
@solid swallow
It didn't work before I fixed T4 tho it gave siege wb when leaderless to same rally when T4 was at 1/1.5/2
That account might lose Cavalry dn6 so he rallies it with inf 
It's a "trap" 
I just don't scout and set inf
Which one lol
Party one
Oh yes the 120m troops when with 40m RNG T2
Less troop more range
Oh mb
You might burn
Leaderless RNG wedge after a kingdom raid might do it
I'll try it in CA, the rally needs to be full T5 or it's not even worth trying
The "it's not even worth trying " makes it so hilarious
But has p5 on walls
Trap doesn't
The shit one
Party trap does
But won't be enough dmg from mix for it to matter
Why lol like they would activate
Full T5 inf counter did activate them
You lost 6m ?
Oh so only 45m range total
Yeah forgot that it's not 10%
Those fams aren't for single hits anyways they are for getting zeroed offline/multi rallies
Would be funny that you burn a party trap with a single rally lol
Good old party trap with 20m front good old days
Only time I've had that account burn was last time in CA I tested taking full T5 mix leaderless, but at that time it barely had T4
Haven't had it burn in kingdom for over 5 years

The only problem with monstrous chests
Just hunt monsters not that hard
0 energy
Can buy mirage as well to daily hunt the same monster
Frostwing or bunny to max first ?
Bunny 
Their army talent ?
Yes
I got questions, should i ignore going for champ inf boots on the trap and just do tassets to mythic? And use manes for training speed gear?
NO
Gold champ is better than tassets mythic most of the time
And it's f2p
Training gear seems useless and waste of manes. Go stride
I mean I've got purp boots and blue tasset, so seems easier
Low spend on trap, strides are purple rn
Gold tassets and purple strides
Still go for stride
Strides?

@mortal flume bro got it mythic f2p

Don't spend to get tassets done
That's it
Cuz it'll be the first one to go
i would do cav champ boots but if you started inf than that's fine too
but go for the champ boots
I'm at 8 or 9 out of 11 gold pearls, might finish it just to have it and swap later
Cus mythic tassets are better than purple and gold strides
Yes
my f2p c24 alt , I haven't done any purchase one it has 6 gold manes
I got one from daily materials and 1 lucky drop rest all only pinball
i could be 3/7 towards purple champ cav helm if i take take blue coins from pinball ee but i took the skin instead so annoying
Oh
Strides all the way

Respectfully disagree with you there, better for inf blast maybe, but not mix.
Gold strides
40/0/0
10 army Att
22 army hp
Assuming inf/cav att and champ + 10% army att
70/10/30 37%hp
mythic tassets
42/0/42
14 army hp
Assume inf/cav att + champ.
62/0/62 29% hp
Only advantage gold strides gives over mythic Tassets are 8% army hp, 8% inf att, and 10% range attack.
I donāt think that overrides the +32% cav advantage the Tassets give.
Might be able to make that same argument that gold strides are better than mythic dragons talons since gold strides are strictly inf stats.. I can see viable that it could beat out the inf range stats of mythic talons. But not the tassets imo.
Why do you not care for range in mix ? You are talking mix and not wonder right ?
Gold boots is 50/10/10 + 22% Army HP
Mythic Tassets is 42/0/42 and 14% Army HP
Thatās a trade off of 14% for 8% army hp ( 24% hp overall).
Lots of comps do range frontline so range is not unimportant in mix
Not too sure if mythic tassets is worse off or better off
You have the correct sentiment but the incorrect mindset. Ranged attack is commonly a misconception. Itās the hp that matters for your frontline. Range attack does negligible damage against infantry, itās your infantry and most importantly, cavalry that will kill an opponents infantry faster when getting countered. Not range attack.
So you mean range hp is important over range attack ? At least for defense
Guess that does make sense with why everyone hounds about having high cav attack for range fronts
Yes, if you were infantry front.. I would say range attack holds a higher importance under that circumstance. Because the opponents will be sending cav counters
Hence the word most
It's like comparing mitts and fist
Well, Iād argue itās only better in inf blast lol
Until itās properly astraād of course
Range atk is still needed btw , especially in range Phalanx Vs cavalry Phalanx situation
Yeah I think it's a matter of use
But if we were to assume 1% atk= 1% HP for all types you'd be right
True
And the real value of champion doesnāt come from any singular piece. Itās a compounding effect that happens as you add more and more champion pieces
Individually, bumblehelm stacks up fairly decent against all the champ helms except the Cav helm
But if you had base champ helm and base bumbehelm 1 for 1x the Bumblehelm has more versatility with the range value. And could potentially matchup. Best in slot monster is still pretty good for
The most part
Same thing for skull crusher
Yup, agreed. Skullcrusher has the most army att. Itās the lower troop attack that gives it slightly less stat total then the champ mainhands
But played correctly, itās still competitive unless youāre going up against multi champ player
Thatās basically how I compete with 3-4 piece champs
but that's basically wonders not castle hits
and you were talking about castle
since it's a trap
Frostwing greatsword or skulcrusher better for beginners? If both are purple
Skull crusher always
on same grade crusher will be better
What crash said is correct.. if you have both, and plan on getting skullcrusher eventually.. donāt take your frostwing past gold. Work on jewels instead and save embers for the better one.
uh... about that. lmfao I ended up making my frostwing Tempered 8, and my skull crusher is still just purple. I am like 5 gold brains away from gold Skull Crusher still though. Takes forever to get them. Embers are frankly easier
Youāre getting a considerable upgrade from +8, I can under your sentiment. But when you reach +12 or +15, when skullcrusher starts to get closer? Youāll feel it. I know I do lol
My current equipment. My kingdom is only like tomorrow exiting protection. I'm one of 3 or 4 with any sort of functional gear in my kingdom
By exiting protection you probably mean itās becoming partially restricted?
Gears not bad
yes. like just getting past 90 days old
i dont know what to make. lol
So i have Frostwing since its scaling better right NOW but im slowly building skull crusher. Other than that i dont know. I do have the Cav fist too gold but only use it for Cav blasts with the Fear drum
Are you planning more champ past the legs ?
probably not. i spend some money but not enough to chase Champ from what i hear
Truthfully, in your position you shouldāve opted for the champion grieves for better cav balance. Mitts Hp is untouchable, dragons fist is solid for some cav, but you want those mitts. With multi cups, I think grieves wouldāve been better. Imo
Well with gear like this at 90d it looks like a semi lead in the making
So strides might not be a bad choice
my cav is like 60 points under inf and ranged. But thats why i have the fear drum and fist to change it if im sending mainly cav.
Champ has gotten fairly cheap if you do it slowly nowadays, full on slow roll getting mythic legs in under 100$ in a pretty reasonable timeframe is very much doable
Well, you do have cav jewels in most pieces. Like Kari said, looks nice for 90 days
There are regular events where a gold mane can cost you 10$ or less
all jewels are purple except the 3 gold jewels. im working on them but jewels taking a long time
Would highly recommend planning on doing cav helmet and not spending too hard on your bee helmet if you don't plan on going f2p
Cav helm is my next move too..
We've got a filler in my guild with helmet and legs who never spent above 40$ a month

i need to unlock more gear slots for quick swaps. lmao
Itāll be dedicated cav blast for me.. maybe 424 as well.
But not enough to replace in mixed from the get
I used to have a bee helmet for cav and for mix 
Nice Baronā¦
Green xD
so wait, bee helm isnt like my best standard then? i was aiming for a solid mix gear
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It's best non champ
But champ is significantly better
ok. i wonder how high i can put a champ help right now. lemme check
Nothing wrong with the bee if you arenāt doing the champ helm
Finish your legs first
Donāt end up like me
im 9 gold embers and 3 gold manes from mythic on those. lol
its gonna be a minute
3 good events with manes
@strong basalt lol
By that time you should have your embers f2p if you buy them in CA
My guild mate got his bumble to +15 before making champ helmet and now not using it anywhere 
Tempering the bumble
So high. That a base mythic champ helm doesnāt fully replace it until I can Astra it. Only positive value is +3 cav and +14 hp if I give it champ
This is Most of my built gear so far. I have not known what to make aside from specifics
Probably doesnāt value range as much as I do.. 424 guy?
im an 857 girl but love my range, i send Blackwing on almost everything. lol
Iām a range guy myself. Kari doesnāt care for range lol
I don't think you replace +14 champ in anything with bee
im also biased b/c a guildmate told me to run 857 like 2 months ago and its all i have run since. lmfao
Right, but I donāt have Astra to make the helm +14. Probably not even +4 lol
... how much astra does it take? i burned like 1500 on my mitts and frostwing getting them where they are. i had the select all chests so i used those
Champ is ridiculous
So is skullcrusher
I wouldnāt know, as someone who only owns the range plate. Which is also ridiculous
328 seems low? what? i dont understand. lol
For monster Astra.. itās like 6400
Well champ is normal astra only so numbers sound a lot smaller than monster astra
Helmet to 14 should be something around 3k
ohhh the monster astra scales different than the normal?
It's 20x
Drastically
1 normal = 20 monster
oof. ok. im gonna slow down on burning through mine. lmfao
Cups and crusher are the fun to astra pieces from non champ 
ah... and i thought i had a lot when i had 11k select all chests. lmfao
Both cost same š¬
Gamble
ok but im just a baby. my accounts 90 days old. lmfao. I have to keep that in mind when i talk to all of you veterans.
minor leagues over here
Why gamble when I had enough to do 100%, gambling is letting igg scam you out of your astralite
I got my +12 on a gamble.. like 3% gamble. But idk if I want to gamble anymore. Got scammed many times
In the end weāre all just players in the game. If you need something just ask. Lots of good peeps here

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I'm the nicest person
Idk what you guys saying champ boots is F2P frirndly
I had the same thoughts but I think they mean you can get all the stuff you need from events like CA or smth
Army colosseum too
They are saying that champ is cheap like 100$ for a boots but in reality it's F2P if you take manes/chests from every event
In 2,5 yrs he can get a mythic champ piece
100 dollas is quicker tho
Is all about speed, 90d account I'm assuming he doesn't plan to wait 2 more years to finish his piece
Who knows he might stop spending for it and spend more on artifacts
Also soon I'll have enough manes for blue cav helm
The stuff you get cheap manes in is worth spending on no matter what's the main thing you are working on
Do I craft it or wait since a faith might be better
That pass has 2k brushers too
I wouldn't craft till you can actually use it
For 10$ he can get 1 blessed and 1 5star
Yeahhhhhhh brushes
So wait till purple lol
And 40 purple books I think
And a bunch of monster astra
I need like 40k brushers to max out the things I can LOL
1 or 2k
I have the good atk, hp ones left to bless and I would need to make a couple more purples to 5 star for more duplicates
I'm starting to stack brushes for future generations 
Send me a relo kari lmao
No?
My first gold blessed
Got it yesterday did a hell event + one EE quest with it
Idk if it's worth it to get lvl9 seems like taking 2 to lvl 8 would be better value
Likely not worth it if you still have lvl8s to do idk would have to do math which I am not willing to do 
I have 5 lvl10s that were not worth but I wanted big atk jumps
I have 7 or 8 24%atk ones that I could get 1 lvl higher ( most of them 3 star because of artifact challenge luck)
High levels on royal coin ones are a bit of an issue since you don't have much of a prospect of actually blessing those
And those are like 1.5 ISH increase

Getting it unlocked already a pain when I don't spend on royal
I had a big jump on my filler
Unlocked 5 this rotation
And got choice chests to unlock 6th

That's lucky
Not just 200?
I had 10 extra
Like 160 days ISH
And gambled it for another drop
Less due to da and not having to have 40k coins when you start since you get quite a bit back from tiers

Oh I thought you go for 40k and what you get back you save for next one
But I guess it depends on Which rotation you want
I was only missing a lot from this chest other chests I have most from other 2 so used all coins I had (10 extras) 
This was fun
Got 6 gold drops total from 210, 5 new ones and one duplicate
10 more pushes 
I'm missing more from the glorius
That one has many cav atk ones in it
Which I'm missing
I'm missing these now so got most unlocks, will do the blue mirror thing with choice chests when I finish lvling the other 5 with hells
Yeah you are missing a lot of the good base stat ones
Need 200 opens per chest pretty much
After I can get that glorious one my cav won't be behind by 40% LOL
Could use fist but +15 mitts just feels better
Purple cav champ helm better than a gold BB helm?
It gives more hp by 2.5% but gives less atk by a lot
Also does it worth to temper fw sword ? Since I'm 2/9 towards mythic crusher
Chamion light or Eerie lantern for inf blast?
Lantern
I'm missing a lot Lmao
It's been ages that I got a new artifact from drawing lol . Got few new through events though but from draws I didn't got any in the last 8 months nearly
anyone have 659 set gear and fams?
it depends on what gear you have
659 set can vary depending on what and whom you're hitting

5 pc old emp with 3 faiths
Inf cav baron jewel , champ jewel and army atk jewel on all the pieces
3 11ks + rose knight and songstress
2 inf cav p5s jade drider saberfang
You can use lore weaver over rose knight

Ok how about a normal set now 
Wdym that's not good enough for you?
Oh rip I forgot to mention sigils
But he didn't ask about that so no need
Tell sigils too please
4 Ursa inf sigils , 3 cav 1 range
In your experience, is it better to have a distinguished cavalry highlight in 659? Or does balanced stats work just as well.
I guess a rough example would be.. would you prefer 800/800/900 or 900/700/900?
900 700 900 is nicer in my opinion
Higher range would work better if you are going cav phal v cav phal
So it just depends on how the cards play out. Situational effectiveness at best. Damn, I knew that too.. just wanted another perspective I guess
Should I keep using terror lash or use ghastly cane with the lash my inf is 8% better but the cane gives me 15% inf hp
Just temper the cane a little bit and it will be better
Yeah itās abit expensive to temper saving my monster Astra for my cups or book of dead but I will eventually temper it abit more
Wouldn't bother tempering the book
I did mine to 8 and it was hardly used eventually
Maybe I wonāt use the monster Astra on the book then what about the polar ring is that worth wasting the Astra on
And you want to temper the terrorshield anyway so getting rid of the lash is more beneficial
Polar ring is good because it has both health, book has stinky def
Thanks i have 18k monster Astra at the minute trying to just upgrade things to improve my mix then move onto the blasts
Plus cup tempers are horrible price too
What mix pieces you use
My polar ring isnāt yet but its near enough done I have 25k tycoon tokens saved up for when a decent leader skin comes out then will finish it
Id just do the skullcrusher reasonably high, take two cups to like 6/7 and then do polar ring
Cups get horrible value
I would also just use the firewall until your champ chest is like temper 8-9
Well I was going to do the skull crusher but I plan on making the champ cav sword so didnāt know if itās waste to us it on skull crusher
Dont make a weapon since you have skullcrusher
And the cav axe
Just save up for a faith then
Make an accessory
Pretty much yeah
I made the sword because I wanted extra infantry but skullcrusher gives nice army attack to make up for it
Probably slow roll the faith just going to work on castle stars and artifacts for a while
Just do with pinballs
Thats what I did and I think the account is like 8/14 for orange
Well I have been getting alot with that diamond pass which is nice
I am at 8 gold manes again maybe after a few nice events might near enough have a good faith
Just gets expensive
Yeah but probably the only good investment for you really
Cups are extortionate after 6
And if you slow roll a faith you will be dumping one of them anyway
Will probably upgrade skullcrusher then thanks
Plus you can use it for 055/064/082, range blasts, 7 11 2, mixes
be monke like me and make 3 legs telling yourself you won't be making accessories before starting faith, would highly recommend

Kari the smartest player
Listen to him, make 3 legs, then make an offhand aswell and then make the faith
I use that offhand outside of training gear a lot too 
Delete valor thank you kari
no, I want valor for 055
I was actually debating making another set of legs before I made my champ chest felt like I was never going to make it š

it won't be mythic for 2-3 more years anyways
or more likely will never be mythic
How much astra was it to temper 4 faith by the way
a lot

I don't remember but 200+
Nice would rather just dump more into the helmet or boots
2.5 total
Thatās my friends faith they are expensive

Yeah poor you
best mix set
agree
To temper that is ridiculous I hardly buy Astra just get lucky with them chests
Infantry should be highest, then cav then range
So in your example I would choose 950% 700% 850%
I disagree
You don't have to optimise stats to win cav phal Vs cav phal, because if you have less cav you'll just win . It's a comp counter not based on stats
Iām listening intently, why is higher inf better in 659?
Because that's what you'll always struggle with in WoW
If your infantry doesn't break through, your cav atk is useless
I see, that makes sense
In fact , assuming equal opponents, 857 wins cav phal Vs range phal easier than a 758 does
The range atk sole purpose is to defend blasts and to possibly win range phalanx Vs cav phal ( you're getting countered)
Sometimes if it's high enough you might actually still hold that
nowadays even for blast high inf is great cuz everyone keeps sending 0/19/1 or 091
Wouldnāt 800/800/900 operate better in that circumstance?

And of course, cavalry helps a little bit Vs blasts , but superior when retargeting happens
Fun comp TM
If you are range phalanx Vs a cavalry Phalanx? Yes
I would set 10/5/5 for that. Not good enough to do mostly single troop comps on the wonder lol
Nice hold
people attack with it 
He's assuming carpets ofc
Not attacking it
the one above dude slammed it in with 75s in ca
gave me cancer
was 4h of nothing happening into a 75 carp blast

Right, so the 659 question, youād take higher inf over cav under the circumstance of r phal v r phal. That makes sense
any time enemy is in r phal you want higher inf stats
Thanks Kari and Lay D
I run this on mine for 659
lol, thatās outrageous
well +10 inf cav +6 range I'm not in full war talents rn
This is my current 424, my approach is balanced. I just adjust the comp as needed
It works fairly consistently against the opponents Iād engage with. But would fall far short against bigger opponents. I draw the line at about 100 castle stars most times, if the artifacts arenāt too crazy
Same balanced approach with 442 variants as well
Yeah I wouldnāt dare lol
Iāll go up to about 100ish castle stars, thatās it
I can knock ones like that with blast easy
Decent for 55 myself lol
I didnt say you had to though did I
this acc is fun I can knock anyone with it 
I stay in my lane
Iād let someone like you hit my castle lol
Best wow is the type where you dont log into the game
And you log in 18 hours later and the forts are on your guild board
Wow.. really!?
š
if I can do that and have forts yes
See last 
Im coming
Ur too late
I came

Still too late
Quit again?
That would mean I started playing again
Oh, u just joined back in here for fun?
whats just nerdy talk for saying you forgot the time
Warframe
Saw some challenged individuals per the good server and had to look for myself

I love reading what can I say
I'd take inf higher than cav in all situations
But if you had to , range cav heavy if you're range phal Vs cav phal or cav Vs cav phal
Polar ring is good, and tempering accesories ain't of much use
U can temper other pieces instead
Thanks buddy
Good morning
So.. if mid level emps compete with top tier champs. Explain this one proās
Its probably a very well made account
I know itās most likely a snipe, but he shouldnāt be in contention with an emperor at all. Definitely not LaYu
La yuu was most likely offline without fury. And it was a blast ig

Blast/2nd hit/ sleeper account
There are accounts that looks weaker than that but are almost max atk stats
Right.. letās assume betard was correct as well LaYu was probably offline and not in fury. Even if the attack stats were maxed itās glass cannon stats
Yeah don't get me wrong it's impressive but it does happen
Some comps can rely heavily on atk and not a lot of HP, for example 208
It's a sleeper acc so at least that part is true 
Also funny report Vs fatty

at which tempered level is frostwing better than gold skull crusher ?
Better idea don't use embers on frostwing
+3
Better idea dont make a skullcrusher
Cane, saberfang, terror chest, eerie lantern, 2 cups and BOTD is what I use
I would love to introduce you into Discord's features so first of all we have a pin feature which you can check , now you checked it you can see pictures of gears now that you seen the gears you can look for infantry and boom there you go
Lol always forget there's pin for gear
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I'm using mitts on my alt in broke person inf gear setup

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Free skin is so hard to pic
tbh this is very obviously fake, make regular gear and keep it around blue/purple maybe. dont rely on me ive not experienced in fake gear, thats just what iād do personally
level 60 p2p gear? like mitts/cup/firewall? stuff like that?
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yeah, just keep it low grade
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let me take a look at what i can do i'll be back with a plan
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alright, message me if you need a little more help
I see 5 gifts
@hollow kite iād say try this:
blue venom blade (off hand)
purple blight ring (accessory 1)
purple burning scroll (accessory 2)
blue cup (accessory 3)
blue skullcrusher (main hand) or purple frost sword
purple dragon talon (boots)
blue-purple firewall plate (armor)
purple beast helm (helmet)
Unless you are supposed to count stockings... there are 3 stockings and 5 gifts
its realistic gear, but you keep it at a low level to avoid suspicion
what about gold dragon fist?
could work tbf
try it out and see what works for you mate
thinking if i do a blue cup it might be a bit too purple/blueish may need a gold one, like taking the scroll up to gold
this gear def looks more realistic than the last set, just do whatever you think is right mate. play your own game and experiment around a little bit, taking the scroll to gold is a good idea for sure, for the left side maybe take something up to purple too
to be honest it's nice having something a little more "beefier" as i take all hits in fake gear anyway thanks for the help we'll see how it goes
thats fair, goodluck man! keep an eye on your artifact stats too, only upgrade war stats and not battle fury. itāll help keep your artifact count looking weak but then theyāll be surprised when its all war artifacts
all good ;) i only have attk ones leveled up, im at 290-300% base stats and 600-700%mix now with less than 100 levels. luckily i thought ahead
very impressive, keep doing what youre doing now and youāll have a nice trap coming together
last question lol, what do we think about the last accessory? or take it up to gold?
take one of them to gold, doesnt matter too much which, just make it look realistic mate š
Merry Christmas everyone
I can already tell you that it's either a fake or you are trolling those accessories bruh
Use a cup at least everyone has one
a cup instead of which?
The 3rd one
surely only a blue cup would make sense though considering, blue chest, boots and helm
Just dont bother with fake equipment
??? and use my real? excellent way NOT to get hitā¦
Literally anyone can see your real gear
Yeah not wrong though
If your account shows no gear thats a red flag itself

Just sit in monster hunt gear and wait for a march
Solo trap dead anyway
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how so
well i shield on anything thats not a maxed account to keep my kills low. so i guess emps and the top baron accounts in the game
If they have mana 4-5+ theyre going to walk away from you unless you have some crazy comp and stats
not true
And then theyll hit you with a crazy counter using 75 boots and burn your ass
Yes it is. I already showed what tier 5 mana 5 soloes do to me with a 30m comp and good gear here
i have less troops, clearly better stats and gear. i take only counters from 1900% blasts and cap, so im not sure where you went wrong
I got hit by him
Yeah im sure you do bro
Noodle account tbh
Did that much into my speed gear
well thereās a mana 5 (could be 1900% if rejewel) full t5 counter
your comp sucks for solo trapping, and if you have a comp like that i assume everything else is also wonky
Lol
That's kinda funny
and another.. here's a lower tier emp mix (in my jewelled monster hunt gear)
you count those as emp accs?
do you see that blue piece of gear? thats called a new emp piece. maybe you need some help identifying it
new emp pieces aren't that good
do you have one
i have 5
crazy. you must have a lot of money
those are the accounts that gets hit once and than they need to wait for another 10 yrs to get hit again
Technically an emp but has low artis so weaker hits than good arti non emps 
that's not even 500k march lol
can you show detailed report?
wonder what's his mana lvl
could be hidden arts could not be who knows. have taken full 5 new and old emp hits (in chaos so doesnāt REALLYYYY count) point is mana 5-6 whatever stats, doesnt matter solo trapping is not dead and it is very easy to cap people
we love cav phal
If he has no useless levels and properly done upgrades he's missing ~300 levels of hp/def 
That's not "hidden" he's just too low levels to have everything good
youāre 900m might taking a solo? man what is that screenshot
And my wall was full of army heroes pact 5 and jade wyrm he thinks he got a mana solo capped
It was to test mana damage? Are you thick
he doesn't understand it
Why would I give him my lead and sit in cav phal
are you dense. you showed one without the mana level, one with (comp breakdown) show both the comp breakdown detailed reports
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you lost 4 million troops on a solo when youāre blessed 900m might thats awful
Yeah bro he took 5 minuted and made mana 6 instantly
doesnāt matter leaderless or not
You have no idea what mana does do you
If it's running cups it can be, when not using champ quite easy to inflate atk on accs like this 
oh wait it was closer to 5million my bad. even worse than i thought
thats embarrassing behaviour
Holy shit youre dumb if you think my account is bad for taking that on a counter from a maxed emp with mana 6
With no lead
embarrassing.
frostwing sword and a blight ring š are you 13
@mortal flume get a load of this guy
pocket money got you that
No I was making a faith and a champ sword
so where is it
its gold bud
Nice job you can see
Havent spent on this downie game in over 6 months
Still only 5 manes away
Pocket change if I played
damn bro. thats crazy
Account was made in 7-8 months 
Go take a leaderless mana 6 counter from an emp trust it wipes your front, some of your second and you burn
True it's not dead just most of the traps that actually cap strong leads are stupid fat and no one other than those strong leads hits them, some of my guildmates made their "solo traps" ~400m 
400m is a nice rally target

One at 380m got soloed in current kingdom by a fatty
He has 0 artifacts tho dude came back to game after not playing for 4 years and is playing catch-up 
Im not dumb enough to hit an anti 300m+ withoit giving them a touch to see if theyre empty
I solo that in kvk if they don't have sussy stats yet

About 80% of the time it's free kills

If it's fury up to 600m it's a solo target
As long as there's another lead online to mix it and save my ass
I got trust issues
Well Tom.... seems I am hear now to clarify
Tom.... I'm not sure what I am a noodle about, however you did get the 1900 correct... However to be clear, I didn't send a blast at you. I sent a 5 0 15 so quite range heavy on my gear
losing 4m leaderless rng into cav phal against a maxed account what you expected
my love how does your mix looks like?
i'm a solo target than let's goo
where you at ? ima be there for next kvk
and since my comp sucks for capping solos you will burn me
Save your breath on him. Merry christmas though
K1000. But not for long. We don't stay in a kingdom for more than a week
Set rally parties, and count me as your 1st rally target! 
not you where kari at
For a solo trap nowadays, this comp is pretty much perfect
perfect to be fat
Will be a different kingdom than now, we will migrate out before kvk

Can someone help me with gears š i don't know which are good
Pinned messages
I would love to introduce you into Discord's features so first of all we have a pin feature which you can check , now you checked it you can see pictures of gears now that you seen the gears you can look for infantry and boom there you go if you want more information feel free to ask
Shall i use the same
Show inf 
i never called you a noodle, in fact someone else did. I know your stats and I KNOW you're pushing 1900 with re-jeweling. in fact I'm grateful to take multiple hits off of you, a mix and a full counter in your blast gear so i'm not sure if you misread what i said because i most certainly did not call you a noodle, but thank you for the hits they really do help when testing capabilities.
I wasn't blast. I hit you mixed. How close was I to the burn?
not very, iām 283m might iām massively overkill. i took one in chaos from you, not sure who did it but i had no fams on wall + wall up in a rng wedge and similar outcome the battle timer replay doesnāt last very long. far off 40 seconds. not sure if i can upload videos in here but i could always upload the battle video if youāre curious
Yap
Aah yeah the guy I am thinking about was just shy of 1b might... and Chinese:-/
Expensive date, so I poisoned
Do you think this is good gear inf for this might?
No
You should not be making blast gear at your might
What should i doing
Only your mix
Focus on your mix set only
And focus your jewels there
Focus level 60 gears btw
But he won't be able to use them for a while
It's not rocket science
Use rares on level 60 you'll need long run instead of low level gears
upgrade champ
Only green? rookie
When mythic?
Easy
i did it in 1,5 yrs
I could do it if I took manes from exchange and
But usually take orbs, last chaos was first time taking 100+ champ chests also
How did u get 60 lvl so fast
Hes not
oh ye u right i didnt saw
Thoughts on greatsword vs skullcrusher for f2p?
Crusher.
Should i build the sword alongside or something else from frostwing
The sword is by far more economical and easier to get... It's ideal to start with.
But. The crusher is the most chosen one. They're similar on stats if you weigh them up together and jewel to your game play.
It's more of a personal preference and what you feel is more easier/beneficial to push for.
And no. Greatsword is only beneficial item from frostwing set. There's more gears out there than outweigh the rest of frostwing items and are as easy to get.
Thanks! The only worry that I have is that if I pick and the greatsword and put my focus on the burning scroll as my 3rd accessory I'll stay behind on skullcrusher
But it'll come later on. Id stick onto one item a time... Especially if from same monster set. Id get the sword and scroll. Then later. Go for the crusher.
I appreciate itš
Food of thought for ya.
Max temper. Sword is 44% Cav and inf. 28% Rng.
Crusher is 44% army atk. 34%rng. So your only really gaining on the range.
Idk Dobby and i have been using emp main hand
Hahah. I certainly don't have Emp.
You're hiding it š
Hahaha. I'll never be or have emp items. I despise it.
Why :0
I've seen max champ accounts beat emp accounts.
Monster gear. - PvP blasts.
Champ - Wonder/Mix rallies.
Emp - Rich, lazy, no need to swap gear. š
Rich is an understatement xD
Ultra rich peeps xD
I think some people in game have 2 acc with emp pieces
Im good
It's 1:51am
Was Studying, just took a break to make coffee
How are you doing
Any big hits?
Haha. Always bro. Look at ya pm. Just send you other nights fun as you wrote that. Haha.
You'll never mythic crusher f2p
No offense
My alts have.
I'd say they're definitely luckier than average
It's a long process. Hence me saying sword is more easier and economical to gain. But it's doable...
between bumblebee helmet and sabetooth one which is prefered ?
At gold:
Beast helm give
Inf atk 30%, cav atk 25% and army HP 15% alongside travel speed 35%
Bumblebee gives
Cav and range atk 30%
Army HP 20%
Now you can choose what you want.
If you need higher inf then go with beast
i have beast at gold , intending to go towards mythic, but i need to finish my bee familiar and since i will do tycoon for that i want to know if its common for players to have both of those ,only one or do something else from the bee set
Why ? I recently got it to mythic
Though my beasthelm is still purple and I hate it
as f2p i use burning scroll , army hp is nice
what's the best f2p equipment
Check pins
Or skull crusher, bee helm, firewall plate, mitts or d.fist, 2 cups and ring
I wouldn't work 3 cups f2p lol
Also d.fist would've been the easiest cav offhand since you already working breast piece in rng
3 drums ideal in cav also, remove one cup for ring in range and book of the dead for inf
Mix set you can take out the scroll for another cup
Since it's low grade and since you're already working skullcrusher
thank you very much
I want cav champ helm
Maybe I'm just salty that I barely have it at gold in CuCumba2
Some people just have bad luck with certain items š
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What level does the ghostly cane beat level 15 terror lash in stats?
Iām getting close to getting cane to mythic so Iām just wondering
But i got only 114 monster astralite for it so im no where near wanting to replace it lol
at max difference is quite nice (-15 on the atk due to jewel)
That isnāt a giant difference for the money you gotta spend
I guess the hp would be worth it
hp is the main thing
Hp is the name of the game, I never compromise on hp.. not even for more attack. As a mostly none champion player, the hp is important stuff.
Not a giant diff. But makes a big difference.
Okay that makes sense
First option: either, not all.
Skull crusher astra 5, cup astra 4 or blight ring astra 8.
Second option: save for bumble helm to Lv 7 or wait even longer for Firewall to 14.
you really have to see what stats/astra you get but Iād go with bumble helm
firewall plate wil be the long term investment bb helm will be replaced with champ cav helm
Subjective, you could argue that firewall gets replaced with range plate eventually. For someone going non champ, bumble and firewall are both best in slot.
Not really there are scenarios where firewall becomes better than RNG plate
And champ pieces are literally f2p
Idk about champ but my main acc got emperor gear
Range plate is usually the last of the big 3, normally. So yes, after champ strides and champ helm, firewall becomes expendable.
Same b
Shut up š your accounts f2p
That f2p account claps you lol
come ca mr emp, CnH lead citadel for us

He is busy
Real
lol you wish. Only because I was sending leaderless, and you and your friends wanted to send 2+ marches at it.
Boosted marches
I just started

got a bunker tho
Don't let him
Aw
I just tagged you to come I would assume yes



