🏹┊equipment

[patent silo]

Im one bargain shop/ 2/3 material mayhens to upgrade all pieces to purple

Bumble helm too, just wont rejewel until it reaches purple

[sharp crater]

nice nice just swap bumble helm in when its purple

[patent silo]

Yeah

After that go get both to gold will take a little while so I was in doubt whether to focus on mh or war gear, as I said I am gonna be a filler at max, plus a little far from t5

Thats why I was leaning more towards mh gear bc it would make me grow faster

[sharp crater]

MH gear does help but right guild also too

I am in retirement home, might hop around to have some fun maybe

[patent silo]

Im in a pretty good guild

90 B, master gf etc, 5lvl2s daily

And so far does pretty well in events so yeah

Good guild to stay and grow

I was in a big mh guild before, but ran too low on energy so I left

[sharp crater]

Thats good!

[blazing dragon]

Ayo, gonna go land on wows for sure

[sharp crater]

Take me I be ur filler

[upbeat monolith]

Anyone know the atralite costs for dragons iris

[sharp crater]

Not worth wasting Astralite on it. If you are using Talons, astralite on that is better

[upbeat monolith]

Idk i have it gold and im not rly looking to spend money on the bs polar ring

I want the army hp cuz im a fat 6bm rally trap lol jk

[sharp crater]

Cup is better than Dragon Iris

Blight Ring is better than Dragon Iris

Those are cheaper than Polar Ring

But more expensive to astralite vs Dragon Iris for sure

Also Dragon Iris is useless that even old Astralite Spreadsheet didnt even cover it

Theres only data on Talons and Dragon Fist.

+12 Dragon Fist cost 155 Astralite or 3100 MH Astralite. Dragon Iris being 3 Eyes to make instead 2 eyes for Fist, I would assume Dragon Iris will be around 200 astralite 4000 MH astralite for guesstimate but not worth it @upbeat monolith

[upbeat monolith]

Ok im just making it part of my war gear plus it would give army hp

Im not rly thinking of getting full mythic equipement i have 1 purple cup in my war gear set everything else is gold or mythic

[boreal shale]

Ask him i'm sure he knows (he has 3 of them +15)

[hard eagle]

guys any recommendation for 884 heroes f2p?

i have watcher btw

[karmic stratus]

2/2/1

Watcher, demon slayer or oath keeper.
Bombing goblin, snow queen
Rose knight

[mortal flume]

Boomeister

[karmic stratus]

Boommeister, prima donna, incinerator, scarlett bolt and sage of storm

[boreal shale]

You forgot Shade the most op of them all

[karmic stratus]

Actually forgot he even existed

All the way at the bottom with the other rejects

[hard eagle]

is boommeister good for attack?

cause i heard it bad for defense

[fervent plover]

1346449558

[lofty solar]

Use only attack jewels on mix set

[boreal shale]

Flower maiden deserves better :'(

[vernal needle]

Hello all.

[karmic stratus]

She deserves nothing for taking so long

[hard eagle]

@karmic stratus

884 like this?

[fierce pecan]

No boommeister

No stats on it

[hard eagle]

okay, so change to ice queen?

[fierce pecan]

Yes

But I don't have any idea on familiars

[hard eagle]

i think there is no problem with fam

[fierce pecan]

Is your lvl 5 pact is max ?

[hard eagle]

Lv 8

384%

[fierce pecan]

Ok ...
I was done lvl 10 but I was not using it 😂

[hard eagle]

WHY

[fierce pecan]

Mostly i use only range attack on enemies

[hard eagle]

ah 2 range familiars

[fierce pecan]

So I was collecting blackwing pact 5 familiar and i collected golden orbs to 1220

[hard eagle]

btw i am still confused which one is better, blackwing or bunny

both are give stats for range

[fierce pecan]

Bunny? Pact 5

[hard eagle]

yes

[fierce pecan]

No it's give inf stats

[hard eagle]

oww sorry

[fierce pecan]

Queenbee gives you range stats

[hard eagle]

queen bee

[fierce pecan]

When comparing
Queenbee is best

[hard eagle]

yeah but it must wait 8% casualties

is that worth it?

[fierce pecan]

Yes

When ur comp getting bigger bigger all pact 5 are waste

[boreal shale]

Bee is better on wonders on blast though i think blackwing deals more damage because the battle is less long

[fierce pecan]

Right

[hard eagle]

i see...

okay thanks for the informations

[fierce pecan]

Have you unlock shield familiars

[hard eagle]

yes

[fierce pecan]

All?

[hard eagle]

inf only

lv 8 too

[fierce pecan]

Okk..... Unlock another one

[hard eagle]

my friend told me that it useless in mix attack and only works in blast

[boreal shale]

Huh

If you send a mix rally with inf phal for exemple it's very good to have an inf shield in your lineup

[karmic stratus]

Not for defending

Dont bother doing the cavalry shield unless you’re a rally leader

[mortal flume]

rng shield only

inf is pretty useless if you don't plan on inf front takes

[eager mortar]

This is incorrect. The difference between bee/bw, bunny/bon, and frostwing/garg are mostly due to the different times of which they activate in battle. But one of them potentially, does more damage than the other. And it’s not bw. Read the descriptions closely.

[boreal shale]

I said when the battle is long enough the bee does more damage

[eager mortar]

That’s incorrect as well.

Battle is always 40 seconds long unless there isn’t enough troops on 1 side to last that long. So time of battle is mostly irrelevant.

Length of the battle has nothing to do with the amount of damage a bunny, or bon familiar inflicts.

[patent silo]

Gotta hunt some noceros lol

[karmic stratus]

Finally

[vagrant moon]

Nice!

Rich

[karmic stratus]

Should see the mix now

[vagrant moon]

very rich

[karmic stratus]

About to be stronger than the big account now

[vagrant moon]

Also doing debuffs soon?

Then you’re definitely stronger

[karmic stratus]

If I can be rallied and lose tier 2

Then I will

[vagrant moon]

Maybe in our new kingdom you get rallied

2 big guilds with us

[karmic stratus]

Yeah no

[vagrant moon]

They were rallying a 1.8b full mythic guy on wonder before

[karmic stratus]

Gij my account is huge red flag

[vagrant moon]

True

[karmic stratus]

The book temper gain is really nice but expensive too

Still sad cavalry defend instead of health would be literally a budget faith

[vagrant moon]

Already at +6 nice

[vagrant moon]

[steel spade]

[patent silo]

Which is better?

[rocky knoll]

cane is more stats but if no champ offhand lantern better stat gain over alternative

[patent silo]

Is it that good compared to mitts?

Even if it will always be at least 1 rarity lower

[sharp crater]

What is this jeweling

[rocky knoll]

should be better 1 grade under idk haven't tested it myself to be sure

+6 lantern is better than +15 mitts tho

[patent silo]

My issue is when my mitts reach gold or mythic

And lantern is gonna take a little to catch up

[eager mortar]

Congrats, looks great!

[karmic stratus]

Mix jewels. Because its going in my mix?

[sharp crater]

Nice 055 jewel

[karmic stratus]

No

[sharp crater]

I dunno, I see cav/range/champ jewels

[karmic stratus]

Yeah who doesn’t use a book in 055

[sharp crater]

https://tenor.com/view/me-david-rose-are-you-talking-to-me-who-turn-around-gif-27634884

[stable lava]

What do you do?

[mortal flume]

the ones that use it in 208

[light frigate]

Champ lantern ?

[rocky knoll]

No, the cottage one

[rocky knoll]

Ok?

[light frigate]

U mean this right ?

I dont think that better than mitss cuz max hp is a lot more in mitts

[rocky knoll]

It's for inf not for mix I'd rather have atk in my blast

[light frigate]

Ooh u were talking about blasts ? For mix mitss is the best right or champ offhand ?

[rocky knoll]

for castle def I'd take mitts

for forts depends on comps

[light frigate]

Pvp

[rocky knoll]

to hit a castle with mix I'd take mitts too

[light frigate]

Yeah makes sense

[delicate barn]

Wow good work

$$$

[boreal shale]

If i buy the mirage and hunt hootclaw everyday will it take me a long time to get the 8 missing commons ? I'm buying mahyem only on discounts because paying for common mats is ew, but it's taking so much time and money

[valid wind]

Yes, I spent like 20m energy over course of few months plus all daily energy to get common mats for my polar ring

[boreal shale]

20m energy that looks way cheaper than mahyem, i'll try your method thanks

[mortal flume]

better of buying something else

20m energy is around 15$

[boreal shale]

Wait i was tired and couldn't think properly. 20m is huuge

[boreal shale]

More like 150$ with discounts only ?

[mortal flume]

Yeah

Just missed the 0

Better off buying mayhem

[boreal shale]

Yes seems better now that i've done the maths properly

[dry laurel]

This guy said he has 930% inf blast and 1010% cav blast do you guys think that is possible?

[valid wind]

100%

[dry laurel]

I didnt know it was that easy to get 1k blasts

[mortal flume]

only 1 k ?

would expect more tbh

[dry laurel]

Wtf what blasts do max accounts have these days?

[boreal shale]

More than 1700 not counting army stats

[dry laurel]

Thats crazy

I didnt know it was that much. I thought my 780% would be ok but maxed accounts have 780% mix base stats

[rocky knoll]

this is 1100 range

so blasts are very easy to get up

[boreal shale]

What's your secret to get so high range omg

[rocky knoll]

da jewels

6 gold

and full gold wyrm jewels

[boreal shale]

Oh i get it

[timber pike]

I want a good alliance

[rocky knoll]

638 atk from gear 😅

• jewels obviously

[boreal shale]

I was wondering what's wrong with me but i did inf da jewels

[rocky knoll]

it would be 1010 without the das

I did cav da on my main and inf on 2nd alt got 1 acc per jewel type 😄

[boreal shale]

I had this +20 rejeweled and your gear isn't even optimized i was going to throw myself out of the window

[boreal shale]

That's actually smart but costly to up 3 accounts too

[rocky knoll]

well the range one is just a filler

I don't use it to hit anything

that set is just for running dns in that dn event and occasionally for showdown when it gets range assigned

[boreal shale]

I see, it's still a big budget for simply doing dn 😅

[rocky knoll]

28$ a month

for sending t5 and sigils to rallies 😅

[boreal shale]

Not bad

[rocky knoll]

these 2 are the important things on it

[boreal shale]

The ultimate filler lol

Just need leader skin

[rocky knoll]

tried to get one

but got rank 2

against a guy who already had the skin

[boreal shale]

Rank 2 hurts

[rocky knoll]

was good gems tho

~1.5m with no jackpots

could have waited longer but I wanted to be done with buying the tokens since mana came out

and it was a better thing to spend money from the budget on

since troop lvls are helpful unlike lead skin

[boreal shale]

From like 7,5k tokens ?

[rocky knoll]

12.5k

[boreal shale]

Yeah mana better ofc

Huh that's less than regular tycoon no ?

[rocky knoll]

yes

but tokens are cheaper too

if you only do 1$ and 2$ packs

which I did do

with no 1+1 you get same value as token pack with 1+1

with the event ones

[boreal shale]

Yeah i'm doing this too, for the book of the dead, it will take time but it seems worth

[rocky knoll]

I did it during polar ring rotation

not sure if I will use it

[boreal shale]

You did it with tycoon only ?

[rocky knoll]

no packs for it I had some mats just from playing the game

got like 2 new golds since I ran the tokens

[boreal shale]

It must be around the same cost to get halos then

[rocky knoll]

a bit higher from what I heard

you get slightly less mats in event tycoon than normal

[boreal shale]

I see, need to get a leader skin first try to reach the same value as cups lol

[karmic stratus]

Damn yours is hardly better than mine and mine isn’t even done for blasts either or has good jewel

[boreal shale]

Look at the gap in base stats lol range so shit i just ignore it

[karmic stratus]

Yours is better than mine

[boreal shale]

Ah

[karmic stratus]

[boreal shale]

Show it

[boreal shale]

Damn you are having a hard time with those jewels lol

[karmic stratus]

My account isn’t even a year old

[boreal shale]

Ah makes sense

You should do some gem gifting

[karmic stratus]

I don’t jewel blasts

[eager mortar]

1700-1800 is for champs those with monster gear have much higher potential in terms of raw att.

[eager mortar]

780 mix is solid, probably won’t burn to a max account if you have a good comp.

[south obsidian]

How do I participate in the april hangout live event?

[mortal flume]

close to 1.9k

someone had 1807 cav blast with 3 +12 pieces and it's not maxed anymore missing a few stars and blessing

[mortal flume]

your rod stinks you have it on the same lvl as me

[eager mortar]

Hi pat, just fyi. I know someone who had 1.9k last year. It was uncommon, but it’s 2k now.

[dry laurel]

Thats crazy

[karmic stratus]

The individual health is criminal

[dry laurel]

All stats are criminal

[karmic stratus]

Yeah leaderless mix is pretty funny

My only just hitting 310 leaderless

[dry laurel]

Do your fury stats only count when you use leader or also without?

Because if they still count without leader these guys have probably 900%-950% mix leaderless

[karmic stratus]

Without

[karmic stratus]

This is with fury im pretty sure

[dry laurel]

You mean the grey stats are with fury?

[karmic stratus]

Yeah

[dry laurel]

I dont think so

[karmic stratus]

Pretty sure it is

No one talks about above 800 leaderless

[dry laurel]

For Real? Because the term base stats wouldnt make sense anymore

[karmic stratus]

Fury counts as leaderless

[dry laurel]

Well yeah from that point of view it would make sense

[karmic stratus]

With and without

Goes to leaderless not with leader

[dry laurel]

Oh I thought you meant that even without being in fury it would be counted to the grey stats

[karmic stratus]

Oh. No.

[unreal harbor]

1000 army hp aswell cause of emp main hand

[karmic stratus]

[dry laurel]

From what account are those stats?

[lunar pollen]

good inf stuff for level 57?

[patent silo]

Stop putting itens on the chest

Save for mitts, they are way better

[lunar pollen]

im starting to save for mitts

[patent silo]

Nice

The chest is not worth investing

Keep it as it is

[mild bolt]

My brain already made Mythic winter parka with 8 astralite before level 60, I'm level 59

[patent silo]

….

[patent silo]

I mean you probably have money to use for mitts, so yeah

[karmic stratus]

Dont bother making blasts. Just focus on mix.

[mild bolt]

I'm f2p

My mitts are purple lol

[patent silo]

Ouch

[lean edge]

My guildmate spent a bit on astralite, a bit too soon imo

[karmic stratus]

Title suits him

[patent silo]

Perfect title

Temper 8 paka is dumb af

[mortal flume]

max the parka

[oak lily]

[vagrant moon]

@pearl fossil

[pearl fossil]

I literally just wanred you for this 2 hours ago. You want another one or smt?

[mild bolt]

Bro has same winter parka astralite as me

[slate rock]

Closed kd players are either very dumb
Or very smart
Never seen anything in between

[patent silo]

I wanna kms

[slate rock]

Keep myself safe?

[mild bolt]

The Main hand one has to be one of the best accecories u can wear at level 60, what a goat

[torpid nimbus]

Does anyone know how a best F2P gear looks like

[lean edge]

.

@torpid nimbus

[torpid nimbus]

F2P

It would take atleast 3 years to upgrade them to orange

[lean edge]

People asking for the best gear but complaining it’s hard to achieve blow my mind

[torpid nimbus]

[lean edge]

If that’s too hard for you then settle for less and regret it later

Your choice

[torpid nimbus]

Bulbasaur i choose you

[vagrant moon]

It doesn’t need to be orange

Those pieces are just the correct option

[torpid nimbus]

Is there anything i should dismantle

[torpid nimbus]

Take a look

[patent silo]

No dismantling is not worthy it lol

Keep it for fun imo

[patent silo]

Yeah a mix of purple/gold should be fine with a good troop comp

[patent silo]

Focus on mix not blasts btw lol

Stop upgrading blast gear first

[torpid nimbus]

Well i thought i should make blast atleast just build them. Hehe

[patent silo]

Me too lmao

I realize now its not worthy it to focus on blast

Just go for mix

[torpid nimbus]

Ohkk

[lunar pollen]

this is my mix

[eager mortar]

The armor is a waste… helmet is okay as a temporary piece, but you should be aiming for the bee helm which is why I said your armor is a waste. But your mainhand, boots, 2 vials and drum need work.

[boreal shale]

Don't make bee helm, make cav champ helm, same price but better , so chest is okay

[eager mortar]

lol does it look like he has the budget for champ helm?

And the price is not the same, not even close as the RNG for champ just sucks. Although I will say, there’s been an uncharacteristic abundance of manes available recently.

@boreal shale

[boreal shale]

You can make the helm to purple f2p, and i doubt he will get gold bee helm f2p

• tycoon tokens should be kept for cups

Helm with pinballs bogo on way of the champ and other events is no more than 400$ embers included, so same price as bee helm pretty much

[lean edge]

My pre60 gear ||(before anyone mentions it, not making greatsword so the frozen hearts waste is fine)||

[signal surge]

What boots do you plan?

[lean edge]

Champ

[signal surge]

👍

[lean edge]

Just got the dilemma of « what champ legs »

[patent silo]

Huh?

What are on?

[signal surge]

Inf

Always inf

[patent silo]

Yeah

[signal surge]

Inf legs, ranged chest, cav sword, 3 cups, cav helm

Simple decisions

[patent silo]

Cav and range boot alternatives are cheaper

And better

[lean edge]

Hoping to get lv60 asap on this account, I hate the exp grind

[signal surge]

Bravehearts

[patent silo]

Ignore him probably trolling

Theres no way he is that dumb lol

Like you always do champ boots first if you are on a budget and even then its not that easy lol

[lean edge]

Yeah got a shit ton waiting for days to pass so can use them up, vip 11 no gems to boost to vip 12

Athena ace gave loads of goodies ranking first in it

116 bravehearts to be exact

[signal surge]

My last acct mythic champ boots cost $500ish

Oof play tycoon and pray for jackpot for gem or labyrinth 🤣

[lean edge]

Nah I'll bully weaker peeps in my kd for exp

[eager mortar]

Yup, most go with inf, but I’d argue cav is just as useful. Since low spend/F2P tend to be inf/range heavy and facing cav deficit

[signal surge]

There’s other ways to make up for the cav.

Long run inf boots are 100% the way to go

If you want cav just go ahead and do the tassets

[eager mortar]

Nah, inf is just most popular. What reasonings do you have aside from every big time lead using it?

[signal surge]

Because you get your cav stats back from jewels, cav helm, and cav sword

And offhand

[eager mortar]

In reference to using a single champion piece

And being on a budget

[signal surge]

Well then you get cav from bee helm, firewall chest, and frost sword

Or in the case you choose skull crusher like a smart person you still are left with only 1 major inf booster being firewall

Most cheap to play players won’t have 3 cups to boost their inf

[eager mortar]

Well budget players need the stats that matter. Inf is most popular in mix rallies, and blasts, offensive purposes. But it’s not an ideal defensive stat that a low spend or budget player would need.

And just because the skullcrusher gives a lower physical inf/cav att, doesn’t mean it’s actually weaker

[signal surge]

Oh i agree skull crusher is stronger your English must be bad as I said smart people pick skull crusher. Inf is important in defense. Most players defend in range phalanx. In which case their inf does all of the heavy hitting.

[eager mortar]

true that the inf play a role in mix rally defense, but it’s not the end all be all. In an inf heavy rally defense, the cavalry stat will be far more important than the infantry.

[signal surge]

In that case I think tassets would be a better option for that player than either champ piece

That way they get HP and 2 attack types

[eager mortar]

Albeit, less Hp

Less army att as well

[signal surge]

Yes it is

But we can speak hypothetically all day

As you said if they take an inf rally need cav

If they take ranged rally need inf

It goes either way but when it comes to being a rally trap in general you will take mixed rallies at times so I’d say inf boots to defend those.

Plus hypothetically most cheap players that will only have one piece are in new kingdoms where mixed rallies are very common. Open kingdom cheap to plays have had years to build more than one champ piece

[eager mortar]

Well yes, inf HEAVY mix rallies you’ll rely more on cavalry. Inf and cav are the most prevalent rallies in the game, range sort of.. just exists. When taking direct counters, you want more of that incoming counters counter.

Would you say the odds of getting burnt by an inf heavy mix rally are more due to the infantry stat not being able to kill the 3rd line range fast enough? Or would you agree with me in saying that it’s far more common that the defender took too long in killing off the infantry frontline?

[signal surge]

I agree you need the cav most traps honestly burn due to not having enough t4/t5 to do any damage

Even with inf boots it all evens out when you jewel properly and do talents properly

[eager mortar]

I never did boots, I don’t really regret it. I got my range armor first, but I only
Use it in range blasts. I would go on to say most single champion sets are difficult to balance. My original premise is that while infantry boots are easily the most popular, you cannot go wrong with cavalry grieves either.

[signal surge]

We shall just agree to disagree.

[eager mortar]

Cool

[karmic stratus]

@lean edge This is outdated as a motherfucker

[lean edge]

I’ll just go rob a bank and become 24pc champ, problem solved

[signal surge]

In what way?

[karmic stratus]

Unless he is going to be a wonder lead which is unlikely because you need to be ridiculously strong for that, two of those pieces arent cost effective at all

[signal surge]

I’m assuming you mean cav helm and cav sword?

[karmic stratus]

Sword and chest

Cavalry helmet still insanely good

Low temper chest is bad compared to 15 firewall

[signal surge]

Yeah obviously that set was the ideal set without faiths

Surely though if you are going to spend for a set like that you spend on astralite ya know

And what sword would you prefer?

[karmic stratus]

Have champion blade, firewall 15, infantry boots, cavalry helmet 2 cups and a book of dead, will swap a cup out for a faith when it is gold

[boreal shale]

?

I built the boots from scratch for 220€ = 250$ in the Span of a month embers included, so if you are not in a rush the cav helm must be around the same price. don't tell me the bee helm is cheap, it costs its share of tokens and embers too just to be useless if you make champ helm; tokens that are more useful to use on cups in my opinion for a low spender, since the other decent accessories are still way more expensive. And for boots just make dragon talons and you are good

[dry laurel]

220€ for mythic champ boots? Then you had a ton of luck. I mean the pinball paloozas help but id say its more like 400€ for mythic champ boots. And doesnt helmet need 8 manes for every upgrade? Then it would need double the amount of money

[boreal shale]

7 manes for helm and 5 for boots. i didn't have a strong luck, 2 gold manes drops on 8k chests. If you do it slowly with chaos arena, pinballs, other good events coming in he future, and buying the limited offer wich give champ chest as long as monstrous crates and arti books i think in the end you will have a nicer gear for the same price as a gear with bee helm

And there are ways to get diamonds cheaper with igg official partners

[dry laurel]

Oh yea I always think that boots are 4 manes. Dont know why. But 8k chests are like 330€ if you buy it with the 50€ champ pack and double coupon.

Of cause you can get even mythic champ boots f2p in a few year but I think getting mythic champ boots within 1 month for 220€ seems impossible

[boreal shale]

As i said there are ways to get diamonds cheaper in the end it cost me 220€ real money. I also got some free chests from cash events, but i don't think the cheapest way to build champ is to buy chests anymore

[dry laurel]

Yea chests are always a scam. But I dont get what you mean to get cheaper diamonds from IGG partners. I just know the monthly diamond pass and the diamond Coupons

[boreal shale]

Dm if you want to know i'm not sure it's allowed on this server even though these partners are allowed by igg itself

[dry laurel]

Ok

[unreal harbor]

Can’t have shit in this server

[turbid hill]

Mythic frostwing sword or purple skull crusher

[lean edge]

Frostwing better unless your skull reaches the same colour

[turbid hill]

Okay thanks

[naive coyote]

Which is the best mix set which is even tested

[signal surge]

Explain? Champion or no champion?

[patent silo]

What on earth do you mean?

[patent silo]

5 piece emp with 3 champ accessories lmao

[signal surge]

Facts

[naive coyote]

Non champ

[signal surge]

No champ at all?

Alright here goes nothing

Skullcrusher, bee helmet, firewall chest, tassets, mitts for offhand or you can use dragon fist is you have plenty of army hp

Accessories are a toss up. Because of the new polar ring and the book but rule of thumb USED to be 3 cups

[karmic stratus]

Tassets kind of suck because low health

[signal surge]

Yeah they do

But it’s that or talons

[karmic stratus]

Talons much better

[signal surge]

Fair enough

Can go either way I say tassets if you are using 3 cups just to help with your cav stats

[eager mortar]

Tested is highly subjective. Tested in what way? Defense? Offense?

Defensively, I’d say I have one of the best non champ sets you can get. In my opinion of course.
Skullcrusher
Bumblehelm
Firewall
Talons
Mitts
Cup
Book of the dead
Polar ring

[vagrant moon]

Attacking is the same

[rocky knoll]

Not rly

[eager mortar]

Also highly subjective

[rocky knoll]

Terror shield beats firewall when attacking with mix

[eager mortar]

Wonders? Solo? Rally? Blast? Mix rally?
The gear sets for most of the above have stark contrast to something you would use for defense.

[rocky knoll]

Pvp

[eager mortar]

Agreed

Although I will admit the stat total of my mix gear does allow for me to do some offensive work. It’s just not necessarily ideal for most.

[lean edge]

Is there any shart of how many astralites are needed for each piece (or just dragon fist) trying to check how high I can get it with my monster astra once it reaches mythic

[cosmic knot]

[lean edge]

I need external opinion
I’m thinking about making the bee chestpiece and not make bumblehelm at all, already got enough to make purple champ helmet (will go cav) and have jade helmet that will do the range. So figured bumblehelm would be a waste. And that instead I’ll do bee chestpiece as there is no real range chestpiece (outside of the one I use mats for on cav boomerang)

[karmic stratus]

If you plan on making orange cavalry helmet then in my opinion you can skip the bumble helmet

But realistically if you want to do wonders you would still need the bumble helmet for 055 in the long run. Cavalry champion still good for 055 but not as good

[lean edge]

I’ll just be a noob lead and hold forts with blasts, no need for 055

Thanks for the advice, i’ll do the chest piece and make bumblehelm later on

[karmic stratus]

055 is a blast

[lean edge]

Dang thought blasts were single troops

Don’t even remember of 055 is inf phal or inf wedge

Will need to refresh all that before kvk/ a fair da

[karmic stratus]

Infantry wedge

[pallid parcel]

Hey guys, should I use gold Mittens or blue lamp?

[karmic stratus]

Mittens

[pallid parcel]

Im a trap so mittens? stat wise it increases my stats in attack from lamp, but mittens will be better?

[karmic stratus]

Lamp sucks for mix unless you’re a full champion and army health isn’t an issue, army health is most important for defense

[eager mortar]

Mittens are good in the sense of having less overall losses. Hp is an amazing stat, but it isn’t something that will help as much if you do not have adequate attack stats to begin with.

If you have a trap and your issue is allowing too many siege walkbacks. Additional Hp at the expense of attack will not solve your problem. There are two options, you can add more troops which increases your damage output. Or increase your attack stats to more efficiently kill enemy troops.

I do need to mention that Hp’s effectiveness is very situational, even more so than attack. If your opponent manages to counter you, having more hp is more beneficial to you and more attack is LESS (to an extent) beneficial to you. I say to an extent because, if you have ridiculously high attack stats, it’s certainly possible to overcome counters easily.

If you manage to counter your opponent, attack is more beneficial than Hp. Generally speaking in terms of trapping, if you’re countered and are losing troops at a faster rate than you are killing your opponents troops, Hp is of greater benefit. If you counter and are winning, attack outperforms hp.

Which is why most people would agree that for the best outcome, you need a healthy blend of both attack and hp.

In general, the higher your attack and Hp stats. The better you perform under any circumstance, whether you’re attacking or defending.

In terms of attacking, the opposite is true. You counter someone, attack is more valuable. They counter you? Hp reigns supreme. People who focus attack only are certainly able to get amazing hits when they counter. But they’re also far more likely to noodle harder when someone counters them. Those guys who walk back from big comps despite getting countered have hp, not just attack.

[mortal flume]

Never use champ off hand as a trap

[minor moon]

Do you have this sheet by any chance

[next otter]

Guys, I'm a 1.5b trap and looking for a kd where I can be rallied (my kd is dead).
Need a change for a couple of weeks.
Any suggestions?
Pls not those fat multiple full champ kd, something with medium strength kd.
P.s: tag me while replying or I wouldn't know if you replied or not.

[mortal flume]

1.5b might trap ?

[boreal shale]

If you are a 1,5b trap you should seek for these "fat multiple full champ kd"

[vagrant moon]

1.5b is very high for medium sized kingdoms

[next otter]

Yeah by medium I mean like 2-5 thick leads in kd. I usually take without gear if it's less than 170 stars so 200+ stars leads. That's what I mean by medium kd

[lean edge]

[next otter]

Iykyk

[vagrant moon]

?warn @next otter trading and sharing accounts is prohibited and a ToS violation

[rain venture]

sam_botv1 has been warned. || trading and sharing accounts is prohibited and a ToS violation

[next otter]

Lmao okay. Kinda saw it coming. My bad🥲

[pallid parcel]

Thanks for the long explanation bro, im more aware now regarding to that kind of information

Also what familiar should i put in the walls as a trap? I didnt unlock their talent but I can get some if needed

posted in familiar section chat

[pearl heron]

if you have a specific frontline, use Hoarder or Snow beast (never use cav front so no saberfang), then Weevil and Aquiris, those 3 are the most important

[pallid parcel]

I always use Range Phal then Range wedge

[pearl heron]

Then go snow beast

[pallid parcel]

We can talk a little bit in familiar section

[next otter]

If someone has a big front line then hoarder and snow beast aren't that effective. Better do the 60% atk and hp.
If one has a front line of 20m then 12% of it is 2.1m down before they active which in most cases don't happen unless you are being countered offline.

[pearl heron]

Well.. personally the virtue of those shield fams is to take care of my frontline when I'm offline so.. that's the exact point

[next otter]

As a trap you want to take rallies online. What then? Cuz they won't activate

I have hoarder maxed but I don't use for that exact reason

[pearl heron]

It's still a good fallback plan if you got boozled or other stuff happens

Though.. 60% atk hp fams won't be effective on that same virtue of you being online, no?

If you aim to counter, then 60% fams would just be on the sidelines as well

[next otter]

If you have 50m troops and decent atk boozle won't do much unless you are extremely unlucky

[pearl heron]

Let's say 50m is divided equally into 3 troop types, then 12% of each is around 2m.. even some half-decent leads would counter for higher than that

[next otter]

I was once hit by a full champ, 225 stars acc with mix, AFTER a baron counter blast offline. The baron took my 10m but boozle like 4m (was on during the 2nd rally just changed to inf wdg to rng wdg)
I was in gear not in talents.
Capped both.
My stats are about 500-600

[eager mortar]

Nothing beats shield fam for frontline. Period. You could argue that someone with a 50m range front wouldn’t get immediate benefit from snowbeast. But 6m losses from someone who
Would attack a 50m range front
In gear isn’t unheard of is it?

[next otter]

I honestly don't follow:/

The last part

[eager mortar]

I’m here to tell you, it’s not uncommon. And even if you feel you’re getting a better benefit from 60/60, which maybe true for the first few rallies. It’ll lose its value while shield will become more and more valuable as that 50m front diminishes. Point being, if offline, even with a large dedicated front, shield will make it difficult for them to proceed at a certain point. It’s not unbeatable as there’s also a point where shield becomes useless. But in terms of effectiveness, there’s nothing better.

[next otter]

You need more in front line than anything else. And in my experience no if you are on fully prepared then "half decent leads" don't do much atleast in my experience.
I have taken 1300-1400% blasts with talent, online in speed gear.

[next otter]

Yes that's what I said. For offline it's good but for online it's not. I tested it, it didn't activate in my case.

[eager mortar]

It’s great if your style is to take the counter to draw in more rallies

Because that’s what I like to do

[pearl heron]

Dude I was saying personally i prefer to bring shield when I'm offline

and if you get boozled, you'd still get countered eitherway

[next otter]

Yeah that's a use case. But I don't do that. So yup play style

Just find your style of play. I'm not going to argue. Whatever I said was my experience and yours can be different.

[pearl heron]

I was offline in speed gear, inf on inf already enough to proc a shield fam hypothetically (I don't have it unlocked yet here lol)

[next otter]

I see but I'm done with what I wanted to say
Case to case scenarios

[pearl heron]

literally the reason why i started with "personally"

[next otter]

Yeah yeah. What I wanted to give is a broader perspective and my experience with those. But yup if personally if something is working then don't touch it.

Gotta rest I'm sick lol.
Cya.

[karmic stratus]

Sam has zero experience apparently

[fair crane]

Hi

[pearl heron]

[verbal copper]

[rocky knoll]

Meanwhile I'm using these with 92m

They only activate on a max account counter but anyone else does no dmg anyways

[karmic stratus]

N o

[dense oar]

Which is better for mix when doing WoW and such events, Mythic mitts or mythic champ light?

i should note, mitts are +13 currently and champ light is +6

[valid wind]

Depends if you need the army hp or more atk stats

[dense oar]

with mitts i'm 738-659-700 and 727 HP, with champ light i'm 794-658-728 but 675 HP

[valid wind]

I’d go mitts

[dense oar]

another lead in my guild said mitts as well, just wanted a second opinion. 52 HP is a lot to be fair but IMO the champ light looks cooler with the other 5 champ pieces 💀

[valid wind]

Yea, I think the hp matters more for forts, I’ve certainly beat accounts that I had no reason too due to better hp

[dense oar]

👍

[frail wren]

Musta po mga kua..hehehe😅

[mortal flume]

ppl use champ when attacking and use mitts when defending

tbh if you use bw it would be dumb to use mitts imo

[blissful crest]

use mitts when u upgrade champ light then use it

[karmic stratus]

Champion light for 992/ 7 11 2

Otherwise just use mittens.

[rocky knoll]

yes the cav stats so good for 10% cav comps

[rocky knoll]

I have a funny answer, it depends, I have both +15 mitts and +3 champ light and in some situations champ light is giving me better results than the mitts.

Champ light has mainly been nice when hitting weaker players (only in 424 style comps tho) and against people in range phal while sending my rally (659+inf lead) in cav phal

Usually mitts just outperform tho so safe to just use them and stop using astra on light unless your other champ is done already

[glass ingot]

Also first priority for champ astra should be Inf legs (or cav legs if use those) and/or Cav champ helm. Off hand, if at all, is 3rd on list for astra.

[rocky knoll]

I'm personally skipping astra on mine

Going mainhand and chest before it and once faith goes mythic that will be getting some too instead of offhand

[valid wind]

Or just build monster gear lol, way cheaper to astra and still able to compete against most accounts

[mortal flume]

yes and cav blade is the best with cav helm

[dense oar]

I’m +11 on boots right now. So i’m trying to finish those. I’m saving up my snow beast astralites for the mitts they just kind of go up when they can

[rocky knoll]

Can't rly do much on wonders without champ unless you max artifacts

[rocky knoll]

I use cav helm in my 992 it's way too good with the hp it gives 😬

[valid wind]

I mean true but high astra champ with low artifacts will still lose to high astra monster with high artifacts, but obviously full champ at high astra is way better than monster at same lvl

[dawn matrix]

Hello so I'm thinking doing trapping how much troops should I need and what tier? Plz and thank you

Mmm i believe im also in the wrong chat aswell so if there's a chat better suited for this question someone point right directions

[eager mortar]

Like target down, dude is a monster. Has great stats, great monster gear, but he’s still somewhat limited on wonders.

[eager mortar]

Not on the same level as the player I was referring to, but nice indeed

[elfin crown]

:OOO

Target down?

[eager mortar]

I guess he has since upgraded to champion helmet, but it was a +15 bee helm before

[elfin crown]

Hot gear ;-;

[mortal flume]

well not just that but if he doesn't get champ chests he will be lacking on champ jewels

[lean edge]

Getting ready for lv60

[karmic stratus]

I meant lamp but yes

I always forget the fucking light source isnt called light

[dreamy wadi]

You're not the only one

[mortal flume]

champ lamp makes more sense

[karmic stratus]

Couldn’t just call the lamp champion light, and the shield champion buckle, champion shield something logical

[mortal flume]

champ lamp makes sense it does look like a lamp

but yeah shield would be logical

[pine pike]

Never understood why people cover stats or kills lmao what is bro trynna hide 😭

[lean edge]

My comp from people in my kd

[hoary roost]

Bro posted his name in another channel and said he wanted to hide😭

[slate rock]

Money can't buy brains fortunately

[mortal flume]

His identity

[mortal flume]

I will be the first one to kill all of your troops

Dude has 350 mix in that gear

[karmic stratus]

Likely no artifacts or jewels

[lean edge]

Yep, waiting for more hells to up artefacts as with 350 I’m by far strongest in kd, and jewels are shit because I barely started building the account
Got low stats from research (basically only military atm) and no fams high enough for the passive stats

[lean edge]

Nice I’ll stay unkilled for a long time then

[mortal flume]

my alt too and has better LOL

[karmic stratus]

Yeah he likely has like green jewels if even…and artifacts wont exist

And your account some honkey tonk old reliable from kingdom 3

[lean edge]

Most blue with 1 or 2 purple jewels

[rocky knoll]

20d old account obviously it won't have anything in artifacts lol

[mortal flume]

20d old ?

from what lol

[lean edge]

My vip streak

That account is 20 days old

[mortal flume]

i have a vip streak of 0 lol

[lean edge]

[rocky knoll]

20d VIP and him saying he just go to lvl60

And fox as lead cuz they give out her medals like candy in new kds

[karmic stratus]

Can confirm

[boreal shale]

Wtf already 2 double attacks unlocked at 380 open ??

[lean edge]

At 175 open lmao got insane luck

[lean edge]

Oh though luck 😭

[boreal shale]

Artifacts piss me off so much

[elfin crown]

XD

[short halo]

With a mix of champ and normal. What does everyone use for 659 Setups? Mine attached. Critism and tips welcome. 🙏 😁

[eager mortar]

Interested in your stat distribution for that gear set. Looks great

[short halo]

Pm

[mortal flume]

Those jewels lol

[unreal harbor]

Got any other champ main hand or chest ?

Mitts?

[unreal harbor]

Jeweld for blast

[mortal flume]

If inf chest than I will laugh

[unreal harbor]

There’s 3 options for main hand, 2 of them are good

Ninja chose the only bad one

[mortal flume]

Lol

Cav would be the best lol

[mortal flume]

You know what I don't understand, that how tf he gets 117% rng atk from that

[unreal harbor]

Valor gives range aswell

[mortal flume]

But I would expect it to be more

RNG jewels in main hand and Valor already gives 60%

• the gear it self

[unreal harbor]

Nah not that much

But would be sick for 055

[unreal harbor]

Valor got barely any blast

[karmic stratus]

He Should ask ghost in his own guild what to do for the accounts equipment since he knows a lot about it

[mortal flume]

Wait I just realised bro has the champ gear for 055 lol

[karmic stratus]

Outdated too

[mortal flume]

Never seen someone using that champ main hand in any other gear than 055 lol

[karmic stratus]

Asking for advice for a reason

[mortal flume]

Money > knowing what to build

Just buy everything 100 times and he will be fine

[karmic stratus]

Yeah thats not the problem

Cant say what it is here

Unrelated, would anyone let their friend captain their boat if it was a spare and they didn’t know what they were doing? I know I wouldn’t

[mortal flume]

I mean I do let my friends play on my boat in sea of thieves

But I heard Ahmed bought a yacht didn't he ?

[karmic stratus]

Thats different

Your sea of thieves boat doesnt cost money unless you bought cosmetics

[karmic stratus]

No, ahmed just has two boats

But the other boat is much better, which is why he lets his friend drive the secondary one

[mortal flume]

It's 10$ if you don't do anything just use real money to convert it into in game mone

• the skin

[karmic stratus]

But like I said would you let your friend captain your second expensive boat with no understanding of how to do so?

[mortal flume]

Which they use frequently lol

[mortal flume]

I would if it's a close friend

And I own another boat sure

[karmic stratus]

Would you feel confident in them if you found them asking other people how to captain the boat though

[mortal flume]

I know my friends would crash that boat so hard it will take ages to recover it

[mortal flume]

Would tell them to read the 1000 pages on the book

[karmic stratus]

Yeah a little too late for that now

[mortal flume]

Probably

[karmic stratus]

[mortal flume]

Or might own a boat

A galleon lol

[karmic stratus]

Definitely does not own the boat

[mortal flume]

Who knows

I mean

[karmic stratus]

I know

[mortal flume]

I've seen full mythic champ 3 11k lose to a 2 pc champ acc lol

He might be the first guy with 3 11ks mythic champ

[karmic stratus]

Where did that come from we were talking about boats

[mortal flume]

Just thoughts

My pfp is my pirate lol

[karmic stratus]

Anyway I can say for certainty its not his boat

[karmic stratus]

Tell that person to quit

[mortal flume]

Told him lol he said he didn't care

[karmic stratus]

Resilience and stupidity perfection

[mortal flume]

probably he was bored LOL

he had 1 rng hero in a comp that he wanted to take hits in inf phal or cav phal and we just 208 him LOL

tbh i would love to own a yacht how cool is that

[karmic stratus]

Too much maintenance, would rather enjoy more and rather the finer things in life

[rocky knoll]

[unreal harbor]

Cause that’s the only use the mainhand got

[rocky knoll]

His entire set is full of interesting choices

Including astra distribution

[unreal harbor]

True

[rocky knoll]

The jeweling of accessories makes me wonder how blast sets look would be funny if cav is 1 champ + 2 drums

[unreal harbor]

Champ hand in range blast 100% according to jewels lol and the valor

[rocky knoll]

When a mix jeweled faith/Valor would just be better than a drum

[karmic stratus]

Hey kari you know I can’t say it here but go to the other place

[unreal harbor]

Faith instead of cup for inf blast

[rocky knoll]

Range and inf are fine since I'd assume there's some cups on the account

[karmic stratus]

Overpowered

[rocky knoll]

I mean it is better

[rocky knoll]

I think I know what you want to say

[karmic stratus]

Yes its all clear

[rocky knoll]

When I get my faith mythic it will go in inf and cav both

With mix jewels

[unreal harbor]

With higher blast you get higher p5 output tho

But army hp carries

Inf and cav + champ jewel for faith the only right option anyway

Why that gay terror jewel

[rocky knoll]

My blasts high enough so will take hp

Especially for cav

Gold faith is already not looking too bad compared to my godforsaken drum

[unreal harbor]

Sad that rowdy’s don’t have a good individual hp

Would be op for blast

[rocky knoll]

Even with the little hp they do have they are nice

[unreal harbor]

Ofc way cheaper than a faith and fuck drums anyway

[rocky knoll]

Drum vs gold faith

[mortal flume]

army atk jewel baron cav inf jewel and champ

[mortal flume]

i've never seen any kind of champ piece jeweled like this for mix

better way would have been trap atk trap def and siege atk

[unreal harbor]

Call Kitzune to put his blue baron jewels in his mix

[mortal flume]

@twin minnow

[mortal flume]

Kitsune is the player who will have a gold baron jewel just to flex with it

And he will say : " first gold baron jewel f2p" while anyone could just go to dead barons and get 2 seconds in the fort

[short halo]

So i try keep Astra distributed evenly, but this will progress quicker now as im able to budget more towards it.

[short halo]

Correct, my gears are set up for blasts, until i create 2nd alternative pieces, watch this space... but for now, what i can work with

[short halo]

The Mistake of buying the wrong items. Working on new Champ pieces as we speak.

[short halo]

I do have a solid 055 setup

[mortal flume]

wdym 2nd alternate ? 9 faiths ?

3 for cav 3 for mix and 3 for inf ?

[short halo]

Lol, no, diff champ pieces. I.E, main hand, chest, off hand.

[mortal flume]

but why you started with the useless pieces ?

that mainhand has 0 use

only in 055 valor is just bad

what i would do is build 2 more champ ( the ones that are good ) and start using astralite on your 424 vairant gear set

i would build cav sword and rng chest and stop doing anything more

or maybe a blessing

but valor fine

without astralite you are weak bro

[short halo]

Yeah, maybe, but so far with my current sets i hold my own. . . 🙂 Just 659 i wanted help with.

My blasts are around 1250 each with approx 750hp.
Mix/424 is 990 780 990 with 860hp

[mortal flume]

have proper mix jewels

don't care about blasts for now

[short halo]

Yeah but i do more PvP rallies than i do wonders etc atm...

[mortal flume]

you should be able to replace the champ pieces

if you got this many champs you could have other pieces

[short halo]

jewels or gear u mean?

So, plate just gone purple, once gold then ill work on Blade, once that done ill be working on poss a Blessing or Lamp.

[mortal flume]

blade?

i hope you doing cav sword

[short halo]

Champion Blade, or Edge Better?

[mortal flume]

the cav sword

idk the name of it but only gives cav atk

[mortal flume]

that one

[short halo]

Edge...

[mortal flume]

you don't have any kind of monster pieces?

for blasts

like king kond necklace drums , wrym rod etc

[short halo]

My WIP:

Im working on getting my 4th cup mythic, then gonna smash out the boomerang.

[mortal flume]

anchor?

for what ?

[short halo]

Originally thought would be good for 424, thats why ive left it.

Just not un-bookmarked it.

[mortal flume]

you are working on so many things at the same time lol

[short halo]

Different monsters tho. lol

[rocky knoll]

well your spread is very inefficient

[glass ingot]

Yes where is Inf stats to say defend Range heavy comps.

[fleet spindle]

Not sure this is the right place to ask this but: What kind of comp/stats does one need to cap a rally? Im sitting at a good 485% mix when in fury, ive got about 2m each t4 and 8m each t2. Is this enough stopping power or am i cooked

ive also got about 250k t5 rng and 100k t5 inf

[karmic stratus]

Will probably need 500-1 million each more tier 4

But all depends on the person rallying really

[mortal flume]

Against a full champ dude you might end up burning if it's a mix

Because 2m T4 with those stats not enough

[rocky knoll]

Doesn't even need to be full champ I burn comps like that

Pretty much that comp

[mortal flume]

Lol

Pretty crazy how 400 mix is nothing nowadays I remember when it was crazy for traps

Good old days

[dry laurel]

I currently have this gear with these stats. My cup only needs embers for mythic and my boots are 3/5 to mythic. I never spend on castle stars and royal coins. What do you guys think I should focus on to increase my stats? I saw that maxing out a double attack skin costs 230$ with bogo. That seems to be pretty bad value. What about royal coins?

[mortal flume]

Champ jewels are purple ?

[dry laurel]

Yes

[mortal flume]

Isn't that like 8% hp

[dry laurel]

Yea 7.5 army hp. But if you do 7.5*3 its 22.5% which is technically better than the range jewel as my gear is range heavy anyways

[mortal flume]

It won't be RNG heavy once the boots is up

By that much

But still I wouldn't use purple champ jewel since you lose stats

[rocky knoll]

Can you show how your missing artifacts tab looks, royal coin value depends a lot on that

[dry laurel]

I gain stats if you say 1 attack = 1 hp

[mortal flume]

1 attack is 2 hp and 8 def

[dry laurel]

And I have only range and inf attack missing with the cups and the boots

[dry laurel]

Depends

[mortal flume]

1=1 in forts

[rocky knoll]

[mortal flume]

Kari you know it

[rocky knoll]

It's not lol

[mortal flume]

Hp matters a bit more but it's like that

Else ppl wouldn't use venom blade

[dry laurel]

I am missing these

You need a good mix of attack and hp. And I lack hp because I only have 1 champ piece. Thats why I decided to use the purple champ jewels

[rocky knoll]

Royals would be good for you, but I would save till about 200 opens worth of coins (40k) before opening so you would be able to purchase the choice chests for gold artifacts at end of event shop for an additional unlock (it's 60 shards)

[dry laurel]

Ok. Thank you

[rocky knoll]

Doing 1 round of that per chest should get you a significant stat jump by getting a lot of the artifacts unlocked

Venom blade is giving you 14 army hp and losing 21 troop atk doesn't exactly sound like a 1-1 ratio and the reason why it's so good is due to fact that hp stats are a lot more limited than atk at high end, people just have more atk so being able to squeeze in extra hp gains more value

[rocky knoll]

When you are able to make a gold by taking out the purples I'd do it and add the atk jewels in

On my filler I've been replacing range atks with grims since it has a stacked range front and p5 fams always hit it

And since it's even more range heavy than your set

[eager mortar]

This was my explanation of hp

[mortal flume]

On castles it's not that needed I think the use of purple champ jewels are overrated

Most of the castles has a big meat shield and you would use a shield fan either way

[eager mortar]

The application of how Hp works is still the same regardless

More noticeable on wonders for sure, but doesn’t make what I said false

[mortal flume]

That 8% won't make that much of a difference on castles I'm not saying that 1 astra lvl isn't needed or you don't need a good amount of hp I'm saying it won't make that much of a difference of a difference compared to attack

[mortal flume]

I'm not saying it false lol

[elfin crown]

we have similar gear you got a little more astra on some and Instead of champ boots I have mythic talons

[dry laurel]

I am mostly using the gear for wow/DA/Ge because I have a hideable comp. So I dont really need range hp. I just need as much army hp as I can get

[mortal flume]

We have the same gear pretty much just a better grade and more astra than me

Got a 3% +10 mitts now lol with purple/ gold gear looks so ugly

[mortal flume]

You doing wow with that ?

[dry laurel]

Yea I am in newer kingdoms

[mortal flume]

Makes sense than lol

[elfin crown]

Huh? @.@

[mortal flume]

I have a 442 stat balance that no one will ever have , watch this lol

[mortal flume]

Literally that's what you said lol

[mortal flume]

It was 539 539 520 yesterday and I did an upgrade today on artifact

[elfin crown]

I balance it with talents sometimes but this is like equal talent distribution

[cosmic knot]

"nice, i got +2 atk, i gotta flex now"

[elfin crown]

I failed a 75% temper after hunting astra monsters all day yesterday

[mortal flume]

I don't really care about balance that much I just want my inf and cav to be higher

[elfin crown]

Gotta cry now

[mortal flume]

?

[mortal flume]

Uff that hurts

[elfin crown]

I replaced a range jewel with Garg jewel to make cav somewhat balanced

[mortal flume]

I gambled 18 astra yesterday for fun and got a 3% gamble have 4 left over astra

[elfin crown]

Don't tell me that will hurt me more

[mortal flume]

I have almost full gold cav jewel missing 2 and of the rest I have 2 gold rng and 3 gold inf lol

[elfin crown]

I knew I should have went with 69% 75% was bound to fail

[mortal flume]

2% gambles

[rocky knoll]

I can't get my stats this equal even when I try

[elfin crown]

XD

[elfin crown]

Need to balance my seige attack it's falling behind 😩

@rocky knoll which one is better to use ;-;

[rocky knoll]

idk did you change any pieces or just played around with atk2 talents

[elfin crown]

Talents

[rocky knoll]

it makes no difference lol

[elfin crown]

Waaaaaa

[mortal flume]

But you playing with atk 2 or 3 ?

In terms of balancing

[elfin crown]

This is the "balanced one"

[mortal flume]

Wow my ocd

That 1 talent

[elfin crown]

This is equal distribution

[mortal flume]

Which gold artifact is the best to bless first ( not the 3 double atk ones or artifact challenge)

[elfin crown]

I will change it after taking 1 point from elsewhere it's a decent loss

[mortal flume]

And for you OCD as well

[elfin crown]

#✨┊artifacts 🤓

Jkjk

[mortal flume]

I only see a dude begging there lol

[elfin crown]

I am going for cav increase

[rocky knoll]

I've been trying to make balanced gear for last 10min

[rocky knoll]

compass if you fury if not whichever 24 atk at max you like best

[mortal flume]

Plus Athena's compass which one should I do first

[mortal flume]

Than compass ty

[rocky knoll]

best result so far

[mortal flume]

Just take out every jewel

[rocky knoll]

and gear looks very dumb

[rocky knoll]

I'm not rejweling stuff

[elfin crown]

What are those sexy fkn white stats shdhhdhdhdhdhd

[mortal flume]

Wait I think I have an idea

[elfin crown]

How much blessed do you have Kari

[rocky knoll]

balanced mix gear

[mortal flume]

Cav blade, cav helm, RNG plate , inf boots , fist , 3 cups ?

[elfin crown]

Pretty good I would say XD

[mortal flume]

Try this Kari

[rocky knoll]

47

[rocky knoll]

it's very cav inf heavy 424

[elfin crown]

Can I be like that with 47 blessed 🫣

[mortal flume]

You have cav jewels only in those ?

Like cav inf *

[rocky knoll]

you can be way better if you won't be braindead like me and go for ranking artifacts

[mortal flume]

But those are much better

[mortal flume]

The astralite lvl lol

Yeah the cav jewels too much hmmm

[elfin crown]

Ranking artis?

[rocky knoll]

the royal coin ones

[mortal flume]

Artifact challenge ones

[rocky knoll]

you can for getting rank

[elfin crown]

Ohhhh

[mortal flume]

Where you need to spend $ to get a great rank

[elfin crown]

Bahahahhah

[rocky knoll]

I have none of those so I'm weak for my bless number

[mortal flume]

Where ppl open 1k with 0 kills lol

[mortal flume]

Like him the absolute beast

[elfin crown]

Is this one

[mortal flume]

Yes those ones

[rocky knoll]

yes but this one is wonder stats

[elfin crown]

Just need 10x more for the first level

[rocky knoll]

there are 2 other in each set that aren't wonder stats

[elfin crown]

10 times

[mortal flume]

I hope they will.introduce more

Would love to see a counter boost one

[elfin crown]

I guess I could save royal coins need one or two artifacts from them too

[rocky knoll]

won't change much for people like me but f2ps trying to trap would be a lot more dead

[mortal flume]

Anti counter stat prevents less losses when being countered by 10%

That would bring back the T3 traps

[undone leaf]

O relise that mine total mix stats are lower then your basic can't stop laughing you guys are on whole different level 😂😂

[mortal flume]

Kari's speed gear is like 600%

Without the inf boots or an off hand

[undone leaf]

Mine are 80 lol 😂😂😂 this Titan's are great

[mortal flume]

He isn't a titan

No where near a titan

[undone leaf]

For us he is not less then titan bro

For me he is nightmare forsure probably can solo

[rocky knoll]

t3 traps are a thing this capped a rally party recently

[elfin crown]

It's like a manga the stronger you get the more people stronger than you spawn ;-;

[rocky knoll]

had this left after 11 rallies

[mortal flume]

That's not a T3 trap lol

[rocky knoll]

t3 range front comp

the fact he had them got him rallied by the party cuz everyone thought comps is ass

[mortal flume]

But not only T3 I meant T3 is the highest tier of troops

t3 front traps are deadly

[undone leaf]

Guys can you suggest me best lineup for defending 848 ??

[mortal flume]

rng phal with wall down

[rocky knoll]

more actually I'm near 600 in mh gear

[undone leaf]

With wall? Mine wall is likke 500k hp

[rocky knoll]

wall up just makes it easier to burn

so means you need more t4

[mortal flume]

use inf phal

[elfin crown]

Ask a guild mate to break wall

[undone leaf]

I am inexperience and don't have knowledge thx guys

[undone leaf]

Okky bro

[prime pumice]

someone have a screen with the 3 best blast gear please ?

[cosmic knot]

Already told, pinned messages

[prime pumice]

yea but they are without champ gear

[eager mortar]

Can’t help you there.. my cav set is non champ. And even though I believe it’s one of the best non champ cav sets out there, it’s not the best.

Champ edge, champ helm, the cav champ armor, champ grieves, champ katar, 3x champ faith or valor. That is technically the best you can get.

Gear is probably less than 40% of where the actual stats come from though.

[rocky knoll]

Katar is worse than boomerang

[eager mortar]

Depends, someone prioritizing attack only may prefer the katar. I don’t, I own a boomerang myself. He specifically said the pinned messages didn’t include champ gear, so I gave him champ lol

[jolly harness]

When should I start building war gear? I’m currently level 38

[eager mortar]

Only do level 60 pieces. You don’t have to be level 60 to craft them, only level 60 to use them. Plan now, It’s worth the wait.

Try not to overlap multiple pieces from the same monster.

[jolly harness]

Alr thx

Should I focus on one type at a type? I.e. cav max first then inf then ranged?

[karmic stratus]

No

Mix first

[pulsar owl]

Guys, What equipments are these?

[vagrant moon]

Emp pieces

[pulsar owl]

How are the materials obtained?

[vagrant moon]

There aren’t materials for it, you can only get it by winning emperor

[pulsar owl]

Jeez lol

Thanks

[tacit onyx]

Is it necessary to build a farming set for each ress

[karmic stratus]

No

[jolly harness]

I have 440 luck tokens. The current tycoon is queen bee and I kinda wanna do some for the gear pieces. How many should I use?

[minor moon]

500 tokens is 1 gold approximately

[lean edge]

Need some tips for my mix

[karmic stratus]

Make it orange

[lean edge]

[mild bolt]

Fire mix bro I wish I had that

[placid mirage]

Yo that's 🔥

[unreal harbor]

Put siege and wall jewels in there

[lean edge]

Good idea

[eager mortar]

I always thought that the complete frostwing set looked pretty dope. If in a new kd, it isn’t bad either.

[lean edge]

I just do it for style points

Not doing frostwing either way, skull almost gold and my range lacking so priority to skullcrusher even if lower overall stats

[eager mortar]

I came back and did a full gold frostwing set, could’ve done mythic but it’s a waste of embers. Maybe one day, after I’m done with gear

[lusty meadow]

How is my hunting gear

[lean edge]

Same, planning on getting it mythic once I have spare embers

[fossil flicker]

get those kills up

[next otter]

Good! But not good enough to flex honestly (no offense)😐

[faint merlin]

Nice

[karmic stratus]

And yours in blue?

[dreamy wadi]

Hunting gear isn't that needed nowadays

[placid mirage]

Astraslites on mh gears XD

[mortal flume]

good to trigger astralite pop up

[placid mirage]

[next otter]

No it's green. 🥸

[lusty jackal]

Can anyone suggest good inf gears

[lofty solar]

Like this maybe replace vials with a extra cup or book

[lusty jackal]

I deleted my blue lantern thinking it's just a waste

[lusty jackal]

I have that whip thing in my main hand

[lofty solar]

That's fine too

[placid mirage]

I got mitts 2 cups and ghostly cane mainhand & storm tasset for legs in this for my inf

[cosmic knot]

finnaly

[vagrant moon]

Nice!

[karmic stratus]

Rich

[mortal flume]

crazy player

[placid mirage]

Congrats

[cosmic knot]

[placid mirage]

Mine both purple still

[cold pond]

1945334008

[lean edge]

What accessory better?

[mortal flume]

my ocd

[cold pond]

1945334008

[rocky knoll]

I'd keep the book

[cinder nova]

Me too

[lean edge]

Ember pack tomorrow igg please 🙏

[mortal flume]

pinball shop

[lean edge]

Already took those