🏹┊equipment

[rocky knoll]

I like talons over tassets on my alt for castle def mix set the extra hp and cheap astra do me much more good than extra cav stats

[broken lagoon]

Cav is btr too

[karmic stratus]

Clearly dont know what sarcasm is

[upbeat monolith]

Hows my war gear

Just need jewels i think

[unreal harbor]

Mf posting his fake gear in 3 different channels

[karmic stratus]

[upbeat monolith]

Yep y not i find it funny with gold jewels this gear can easily get over 500 mix with a few artifacts

For f2p gear doesnt seem to bad to me

[karmic stratus]

Not free if you spend though

[buoyant idol]

Guys for a 170 day account is this good?

Haven't really sorted jewels out

[cosmic knot]

Change dragon iris to burning scroll cuz u going for fw sword, and upgrading talons and iris would be painful for f2p

[buoyant idol]

I'm stopping at purple talons

I'm working on skull crusher blue but I don't want to forge it

Not really fussed about them upgrades...I just wanted to see which one I take out

[broken lagoon]

Use faith

[pearl heron]

wyrm jewels are so easy to hoard

[broken lagoon]

Really?

[mortal flume]

what's that rod?

only +5 ehw

[broken lagoon]

I'm using this rod in mix gear

+12

[broken lagoon]

My mix has higher range stats compared to your blast

[mortal flume]

i have it +10 and i haven't used anykind of real astra on it

just gambled my monster astra

[cosmic knot]

I simply use skullcrusher, so all wyrm astra goes to coronet

[eager mortar]

No hp On skullcrusher, but for
Some I guess it’s their preference

[cosmic knot]

but more atk

[eager mortar]

It’s great for attack, near champ level att. I guess if you look at it that way, maybe. But I like hp

[cosmic knot]

im doing hp artefacts rn so

[eager mortar]

This just happened, not a great hit, online target. But that’s why I like
Hp lol

[eager mortar]

To each their own, in my book the more hp the merrier.

My goal is to get all troop hps above 600% in mix, over 750% in blasts.
Cav is my closest in terms of blast hp, 677%

[cosmic knot]

so ig mainly need to upgrade hp artefacts

[cosmic knot]

btw no point in blurring that but alr xD

[eager mortar]

By the time I finish my mix hps, it’ll be much beyond 750% blast. I need about 130%-140% hp across the board in mix. All hps in blast will be 750-800%

[cosmic knot]

how your blasts looks like then

[eager mortar]

Not great, typical non champ, under 50 castle stars blasts. All 3 above 1050, cav is my highest.

[eager mortar]

Well.. I have champ Armor, but only use it in range blast. That’s my
Only champ piece

They’ll all top out between 1150-1200 when I’m done with them, but they aren’t crazy stats.

[cosmic knot]

my hp is low then

no fury

[eager mortar]

They’ll hit harder than most expect for 1150-1200, and walkback from comps that people probably wouldn’t expect me to. But that’s because of Hp, not really attack

[eager mortar]

Honestly, that looks good

Just the hps, but you know me lol

[cosmic knot]

yeah, u like hp too much xD

[eager mortar]

I was in fury earlier so.. this is fury I guess

[eager mortar]

Your stat distribution is pretty similar to mine

[cosmic knot]

my cav is just lower than inf, your is similar

[eager mortar]

There we go, no fury

[eager mortar]

No such thing as too much 👀😂

[cosmic knot]

alr, now i feel better xD

[cosmic knot]

yeah, just a joke

[eager mortar]

I’m joking too.. but I’m not 😂

[eager mortar]

Been playing a while, stats accumulate overtime. You’ll get there 100%

It’s decent for a farmer

A warring farmer I might add

Yup, you got a ton of artifacts

At least 220 castle stars

😂

How much did it.. or would you rather not?

Totally understand if you don’t. Yeah lol

Got it

You’re in a top guild, or family with stats like those

[unreal harbor]

Fat base stats

[eager mortar]

I wouldn’t touch you.. not even leaderless lol

[rocky knoll]

I like my farmer guild

[eager mortar]

And I’ve gotten some.. pretty decent guys leaderless.. best burn was 175 castle stars lol

Probably better off than my guild with a lead like yours lol

[rocky knoll]

our best accs are around 50 bless

so all noodles

[eager mortar]

How many blessed? If I may ask

Holy

[rocky knoll]

we have a full squad of noodles + a bunch like the 2pc guy you posted😄

[eager mortar]

Honestly with 1100 across, you can compete with anyone lol

[rocky knoll]

saves us troops on not doing barons or expensive wows

[eager mortar]

This is mine lol

[rocky knoll]

mine is the 45 bless one in the ss I sent

[eager mortar]

I got mitts, but i don’t use it in speed gear. I have 1 of each att jewel, no champ jewel

[unreal harbor]

It’s enough for pvp sure but no wonders when you go against some decent leads

[rocky knoll]

1100 each stat on mix lol

not each blasts

[vagrant moon]

Is that you?

[unreal harbor]

Nvm I can’t read

[rocky knoll]

yeah you don't have lvls to be competing on the high end

[unreal harbor]

[rocky knoll]

and with those lvls comes the hp you are missing

[vagrant moon]

You literally send another screenshot of another account above it how would I know if you’re sending one of your account

Can I see the mix stats?

[eager mortar]

Dude, we’re having a convo here

😂

[vagrant moon]

Wdym

Sounds good man

Would you mind sharing your ign?

[eager mortar]

45 blessed is a lot, when I see that I turn around and walk the other way. No way I compete with that lol

[vagrant moon]

Really nice base stats too

[eager mortar]

Forget the 150+ blessed. I’ll defend that with my castle lol

[rocky knoll]

don't blame you I doubt you'd be able to rly fight mine looking at stats you posted

[vagrant moon]

Im not raiding anything i was just curious what guild you were in

[cosmic knot]

i know his nick

[vagrant moon]

[eager mortar]

Recently did a chalice raid.. got to see some great stats in action

[cosmic knot]

sure but in pm, i respect that u dont want others to know that

alr alr

[eager mortar]

Hits like these occur in my dreams only.. but it was possible with leads of your caliber

[rocky knoll]

we have people running blasts in low 1400s and they already hit stupid hard, max accounts are crazy their hits on in gear targets are same as ours on no gear lol

[vagrant moon]

Which kingdoms

Yeah

[mortal flume]

Tbh imagine a mana lvl 6 troops rally

[eager mortar]

Mana will be strong, but the cost : strength gain is weak imo

[rocky knoll]

not into 6m each t4

[unreal harbor]

True our maxed dude always walks back or burns comps that 4-5 leads previous got capped with minimum dmg lol

[eager mortar]

Not in my experience, and definitely not in range front lol

Cav wedge maybe, if I’m lucky lol.

[unreal harbor]

If dudes offline, not in gear and out of talents you can get easily a 8m+ hit in with 1100 blast and p5 fams on such comps

[eager mortar]

I remember when traps used to be 500k each t4 and 2.5 - 3m each t2

[rocky knoll]

8m news or 8m to them

[unreal harbor]

Both depends on target

[eager mortar]

Probably news

[rocky knoll]

if to them I need more leads like this in my guild our 1100 stat people never do 8m to range fronts that have fat t4 count

[eager mortar]

Personal best

[mortal flume]

That dude had only range left

[eager mortar]

You’re right

[mortal flume]

It's like showing off how tashi got a 30+m hit on a target

[eager mortar]

But it ain’t 30m is it? lol

[mortal flume]

Let me show it

[rocky knoll]

not rly one was on a setup account while other was "in the wild" on someone's account who wasn't trying to give a fat hit

[eager mortar]

Alright, since you wanna rain on my parade.. 3rd best hit lol. With lots of remaining troops

[unreal harbor]

Nvm just saw the t4 lol then 7m on news

[mortal flume]

It's like showing off this

[mortal flume]

But hitting only range is the same what tashi did

[eager mortar]

What Kari is saying is that, it was designed to give that hit. Our target was found

[unreal harbor]

Most players to that time couldn’t pull of such a hit anyway

[cosmic knot]

nope, cuz they found target and that was last hit

[mortal flume]

Yeah

[rocky knoll]

one of my favourite recent hits guy was on and got boozled

[cosmic knot]

not staged hit like u showed

[rocky knoll]

this one was in gear

[eager mortar]

Yup, that’s a great boozle

So kind to take it in phalanx too

[rocky knoll]

yeah

[mortal flume]

I mean saying that my biggest hit was 11.2m

[unreal harbor]

Think that was my biggest

Was like 2 Kvks ago

[mortal flume]

When it's only range it's a lie

[rocky knoll]

it's not tho

he got that hit

and it was the most dmg he ever did

[mortal flume]

He got the money shot

[rocky knoll]

ok and ?

[cosmic knot]

11,8, and imo it's still count

[eager mortar]

I mean, I’ve gotten 12m news but my bunny popped lol

No report or screenshot to show you

[mortal flume]

This is what you can call pb

Then I can say as well my biggest hit was 5.7m

[eager mortar]

It’s like saying.. I didn’t find the target and I didn’t hit it. Because he only had range left. It’s my best hit, what do you want me to say? lol

[rocky knoll]

another fun report

[eager mortar]

Beauty

[unreal harbor]

Fat

[eager mortar]

Oh boy

[unreal harbor]

was a CA infirms trap and maxed account did the hit lol

[eager mortar]

Yup.. T3.. in my comp. I’m a farmer, I got em all lol

Yup, and the lead is.. not a top tier lead, but a solid one no doubt

Wrong ss

[vagrant moon]

@sinful burrow show a few of your reports I bet they’re good as hell too

[rocky knoll]

fun wb, bad report but dude shielded after it saving us carps that would get wasted on fake fury

[vagrant moon]

Why

Fair enough

[eager mortar]

I take it back, it was the right ss. And yes, he is top tier

I was thinking about convo I had with a friend, about that account not having much barons yet. But it is a strong account, 1600+ cav

Semi max

[rocky knoll]

2100 lvls is pretty much as good as it gets

only rly missing emp/baron stuff

[eager mortar]

Grawlf, Nana, and 4dam would disagree lol.. but yeah. The result surprised me a bit

I was actually preparing myself for a burn

Mentally

[rocky knoll]

they don't have much more stats than this guy

the extra lvls are on def stat artifacts at this point

[eager mortar]

Much better now obviously, that was maybe 3-4 CA ago

[unreal harbor]

9 blessed left for maxed so pretty solid lead

[rocky knoll]

old ss I assume so likely missing less

looking at castle stars

[eager mortar]

I think max castle stars were 220 - 225 at the time

[unreal harbor]

Ye then you took a good 1700-1800 blast whooping

[eager mortar]

I’m in the process of redoing my comp.. less t2, more t4, less t3. Tired carrying the extra weight.

Might not be as durable as it was out of gear, but in gear it’ll still take someone strong as hell to take me.

[rocky knoll]

I'm in the process of changing my comp from being zeroed to not

[eager mortar]

Yikes

[rocky knoll]

was this 2 days ago

[unreal harbor]

I need my t5 back up cause ocr wasted them last chalice

[eager mortar]

Active fillers know that sight all too well lol

[rocky knoll]

my filler alt also got murdered last kingdom

[eager mortar]

What guild is he in now? I heard he came back

[unreal harbor]

Sk1 fadetoblack

[rocky knoll]

it's down 200m might in about 18 days of last kd

[eager mortar]

Got it, thanks. New account probably isn’t as strong as his old one.. but it’s nice to see him back again

[eager mortar]

lol

[unreal harbor]

Nah it’s kinda meh

[eager mortar]

Figured, but he’ll fix it up eventually

[karmic stratus]

I can’t believe the fucking name of that guild

[rocky knoll]

used to be 6m each t4

[unreal harbor]

Well SQ1 and KW1 mixed

[eager mortar]

lol well.. you’re still in the green in my book

[eager mortar]

lol

Need someone’s professional analysis on this guy.

Weird gear I know, but I don’t think I can compete over the wonder.

[rocky knoll]

well if he's not very smart you can likely knock him

idk about holding unless your guild will get you better t5 than he has

[eager mortar]

They aren’t really t5 heavy, about 50/50

No clue lol

[karmic stratus]

Valor in mix in criminal

[unreal harbor]

Looks like he tried to balance the stats lol but on the attacking side you can win that if you counter

[eager mortar]

I’m gonna go out on a limb and say.. he’s cav heavy. Cav sword, bumble, tassets, polar ring, and valor

[rocky knoll]

why ? valors are good lol

[eager mortar]

I see blocked messages again lol

[karmic stratus]

Considering he clearly made the valor to use purely in a mix it isnt bad I suppose

[unreal harbor]

Only off hands

Since venom blade

[karmic stratus]

Ultimate champion katar

[eager mortar]

Same blocked guy who said my accessories were criminal

[karmic stratus]

Blocked me but still opens my messages to read them

[rocky knoll]

I want this for my champ

[karmic stratus]

Thats rent free right there

[eager mortar]

It’s funny when I see blocked messages pop up

[unreal harbor]

Same lol

[karmic stratus]

And so you open them

[unreal harbor]

Well except the main hand

[eager mortar]

Would be great

[karmic stratus]

Champion blade

[eager mortar]

Rather skullcrusher tbh. Just a preference tho

[rocky knoll]

I have crusher for 442

[unreal harbor]

My dream gear

[karmic stratus]

Its not like you only have two pieces left to do

[eager mortar]

Working venom blade myself, still far out

[unreal harbor]

Both of these take like forever

[karmic stratus]

I know

[rocky knoll]

I have mine 4/15 to gold and don't rly care enough to work more on it

[eager mortar]

Working mine backwards

To gold

[unreal harbor]

Got told it’s like 1k of these special token per gold core

[karmic stratus]

Sound about right

[unreal harbor]

Worse than cups ffs

[rocky knoll]

I might get it gold on my filler before I do on main than

[karmic stratus]

[eager mortar]

Just the exclusivity of an offhand with dual attack and army hp I guess.

[unreal harbor]

I mean when i get the same luck on manes like chichi i just need 2 winter offer champ rotations for golden valor

[rocky knoll]

I'm not looking at champ anymore it's scamming me too hard

[unreal harbor]

Same I first want to fix my heroes lol and finish my castle stars

[rocky knoll]

I need royal coins

and maybe some astra cuz it's fun

[karmic stratus]

[rocky knoll]

and need to keep stacking these on my alt

filler with lead skin is the best idea ever

[eager mortar]

I don’t count on IGG for anything aside from keeping the servers open these days lol

I just wanna plant my corn and potatoes, load the shotgun just in case, and keep improving slowly

[pearl heron]

I have a feeling that this guy didn't put much into artifacts

I sure hope those are golds in those stars and levels

[karmic stratus]

[cosmic knot]

@sinful burrow we need to talk about u pretending that u own this account

[unreal harbor]

[unreal harbor]

Exposed Inc ?

[cosmic knot]

yep, that's not him

[unreal harbor]

[quiet mason]

Fix the new bug,game spazing out then shutting down,all started after last update

[cosmic knot]

@vagrant moon @eager mortar @rocky knoll he lied about that so better don't mind about him anymore

[rocky knoll]

[vagrant moon]

I knew it

[eager mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/crickets-gif-12874518

[fluid pumice]

Purple cup or terror vial astra 10, which one is better

For my mix gear

[cosmic knot]

Purple cup

[pearl heron]

Cup

[slate sage]

My gear is just… better

[karmic stratus]

Yeah we know you have different equipment youve posted it before

Why do people do this

[toxic dock]

Cause they want to flex their power

[vagrant moon]

I don’t think he’s always telling the truth

[dry laurel]

I want these base stats too

[unreal harbor]

Thought this your mix

[slate sage]

It’s a bug

[slate sage]

I whant to see if my fake work

[vagrant moon]

What is

You sending a ss making people believe you have a mythic champ helmet?

[slate sage]

I joke its not a bug I whant to try to see if my fake is realist

And i think that’s not so bad if person check

[dry laurel]

Your fake gear is good but 40 castle stars and 450 artifact stars are just to obvious

[slate sage]

It can pass all account exist and if persson not read « all » it’s ok

[mortal flume]

450 stars is pretty doable f2p

I almost have 400 but I'm skipping useless ones

[broken lagoon]

450 stars ⭐?

Max is 250 iirc

[mortal flume]

????

[broken lagoon]

255 maybe

[mortal flume]

4 of my f2p guildmates have way more then 255

They are crossing 460

My alt has 300 stars but it missed a lot of daily opens and daily 200 coins

And it wasn't in da for the past 8 months now

[broken lagoon]

U mean stats?

Stats ≠ stars

Stars = Castle Star

[karmic stratus]

Artifact stars dave

[mortal flume]

someone tell him to think first before writting something

[mortal flume]

finally someone

[broken lagoon]

Arti Star?

[mortal flume]

no, jewel stars

[broken lagoon]

Do we have Star for arti?

Wtf is this

Nvm

Arti stars matters with stats?

What if I have 700 stars all from blue

[mortal flume]

congrats

[full mulch]

n

[unreal harbor]

There aren’t that many blues

[boreal shale]

Hey guys what do you think works most well in a 208 set, as non-champ boots : gargantua or tidal titan ?

[minor moon]

@boreal shale

[boreal shale]

Okay but what if i already have both pieces maxed

[karmic stratus]

Go tidal titan in my opinion

[boreal shale]

Did you test both ?

[glass pond]

anyguide for new players what equipment to focus? current lvl 45

[pearl heron]

Always just go for lvl 60 gear, don't waste any materials for the low level ones

[mortal flume]

Ganrgantua imo

[kindred gazelle]

guys i have 2 mythic cups and a mythic ring is it worth upgrading my 3rd cup to mythic and replacing the mythic ring or save the money towards other gear

[meager token]

What should I upgrade in the left side? Only 2 blue hunting flames to work with from chest drops

[undone dew]

@meager token I would really only upgrade energy saver, so the helmet and the mainhand. Most of the time you're not gonna be able to kill level 4 or 5 monsters without using a lot of energy from bags

[novel pasture]

which accesoires would use as a light spender? I have a purple cup and a gold ring, but I am not sure which should be my 3 one. Since I want to go for scull crusher roll is not an option

[boreal shale]

I got you go for champion faith

[vagrant moon]

Then probably another cup but work on one at a time

[novel pasture]

yeah but I wont do that, before my first one is mythic and that will take a lot of time

so I need something I can use for now

[vagrant moon]

Just make one purple and keep working on the other

Because in my eyes there aren’t any great accessories other than the ring scroll and cups

[eager mortar]

Look at the dragons iris?

[novel pasture]

that would delay my dragon talons

what about a purple polar ring or book of the death?

[eager mortar]

Nothing wrong with polar ring, book of the dead is okay. It has the most desirable stats for sure, but its not worth the rare material requirement

My book of the dead has 3 uses. Inf blast; 424, and general defensive mix. I refuse to use it in cav blast because it has no hp for cav.

[eager mortar]

Only thing about either of them is that they’re the most difficult to obtain. If I had to choose one, I’d go for polar ring

[broken latch]

Why are terror seeds so hard to get 😭 tips from anyone on best ways to get them?

[dreamy wadi]

Labyrinth

[mortal flume]

Packs

[patent silo]

who got the pre 60 mix battle gear picture

[pearl heron]

it doesn't exist

[ruby summit]

why ? Are you going to rally stuff ?

I'd suggest don't do anything in this picture

[brazen wagon]

For me it depends on the Playstyle and your stats

[rocky knoll]

anchor is good for non champ for 424, fist is a good cheap offhand for cav

[silk widget]

Scroll and fist are fine

[patent silo]

Defense purposes

Im just a filler

[umbral anvil]

sent in the wrong channel

[karmic stratus]

1

[boreal shale]

Is there a reason why most ppl don't use the champion visor in their blasts even though they have it ?

It piss me off every time

[karmic stratus]

Champion visor kind of sucks

[boreal shale]

It gives more HP and ATK than wyrm coronet and beast helm tho

[karmic stratus]

Champion is likely jewelled for mix, so its not always better in blasts.

Plus visor is hardly better than beast helmet , and if someone made visor they likely have the money to temper beast helmet making it better

[boreal shale]

Ppl use the visor in mixed ?

[karmic stratus]

992

[boreal shale]

Why not jewel it for 992 during wow and jewel it for inf the rest of the time

[karmic stratus]

Because who wants to constantly rejewel

[boreal shale]

Me 😔

[karmic stratus]

Then go ahead and make the champion visor

[boreal shale]

I mean if i already had it i'd definitely use it for blasts

Btw can we talk about how bumblehelm is 10 times better than wyrm coronet for range blast but yet the vast majority still uses the wyrm piece in 2025 😭

[karmic stratus]

Bee helmet for cavalry or 055

So coronet with jewels is better for archers

[boreal shale]

Why not champ helm for cav

[karmic stratus]

Not everyone has champion

[boreal shale]

😭

Ok but for real tho i see many ppl having helm and still rocking the wyrm

[karmic stratus]

Like I just said, bee helmet best for cavalry if no champion helmet

No substitute besides beast helmet, which is for infantry

[boreal shale]

I meant ppl have the champ cav helm and still use wyrm

Maxed leads and shit. Makes me think i'm missing on some details

[karmic stratus]

Coronet cheaper to temper and has more attack

Army statistics aren’t as important in single troop blasts

[rocky knoll]

I have both and my coronet is just better cuz it has more astra from free chests

I'm getting 7.55 atk 31.6 def instead of 9.45 hp didn't spend generic astra on either of those both are purely from random astra chests

[eager mortar]

My bee helm would be better for my range blast, with 10% more hp as well. But I can’t be bothered for constant rejeweling. I rejewel enough from bumble mix to bumble cav lol.

Rejewel is actually where most of my gems are spent on lol

[valid zealot]

why do you have 2 bee helms

[rocky knoll]

I used to have one for mix a long time ago before astra and before I had a champ helm

[valid zealot]

oh ok

[rocky knoll]

had the venoms so spent embers to save on gems rejeweling

pretty sure it was worth while it lasted

[valid zealot]

can u send pic o saint seya gear stats

[rocky knoll]

only have legs and helmet on that acc, have chest on small alt idk other pieces

[eager mortar]

@rocky knoll what’s you mix stats on main look like? I know you got way more arts lol.

[mortal flume]

He has really bad artifacts like 138 blessed 1.3k lvls you know

[brazen wagon]

Any better war gear for a level 59 instead of this?

[latent turret]

Should switch out the def and griffin jewels

[broken lagoon]

Use fist

[twin minnow]

Honeycomb chaps

[pliant flax]

Set the jewel any helm for completing the castle strong and an upgrade

[patent silo]

Level 53 and wondering what i should be going for with what i have rn

Also no 3rd accessory slot

[pearl heron]

Hunting Mace is always a good option

[dim rain]

whats better im needing advice

or this

[unreal harbor]

This

And if you have mitts +12-15 use them instead of the fist

[dim rain]

Yea but then I lose out on so much cav attack

Like I think it would be 49% cav attack straight out

[unreal harbor]

The army hp makes out for it

[dim rain]

now look at the cav atk its so low

thats fury stats

[boreal shale]

Hey guys i have a small issue with my 055, i feel like my rng atk is too low, it's 50% lesser than my cav, so i'm wondering if i should swap any piece. Like skullcrusher for the main hand for exemple. Or i'll just wait for next arena to test

[cosmic knot]

U can replace that inf jewel with rng one in main hand

And/or in helm aswell

Also i see rng and cav stats are almost equal, so my guess is you're missing base stats (or artefact stats with leader)

[rocky knoll]

crusher could work, you are missing out on some army def than but if you are worried about too low range I guess that could help fix that issue since I assume you don't want to rejewel your champ

my own 055 is cav heavy too and it has been working fine

[boreal shale]

Nice boots

The problem is i need more jewels but i'll definitely put one in the helm or hand when i'll get some

[rocky knoll]

well depends if you like your 055 more than your 424

for me at least 055 is a secondary thing I care more about my mix/blasts

[boreal shale]

I use 424 more often yeah

I lack 50% rng base stats that sucks lol

[rocky knoll]

yeah after base stats my cav is up 100%

not 40

range always forgotten

[boreal shale]

Fck range

[rocky knoll]

worst base stats worst blast set

pro range hating

[dim rain]

why is this better than with anchor? im still confused

[pearl heron]

Higher army max hp,, plus skullcrusher gives you army atk which compensates for the seemingly lower individual stats

[dim rain]

yea but still it would make my 659 irrelevant then

idk ill try it out for a bit

[unreal harbor]

50% won’t make any big noticeable difference anyway just replace that saber jewel with a da jewel if you need a bit of range boost

[rocky knoll]

better to replace grim in codex with range da if anything, saber jewels are great in 055

[rocky knoll]

for 659 use the anchor, you're allowed to have more than 1 mix setup for different comps

[dim rain]

mm ok

what would even be an ideal 659 set without excessive champ?

[glass ingot]

Smth like mine, may be with Dragon's Fist.

[unreal harbor]

Skullcrusher, mitts, 1 cup 2 book of deaths, cav champ helm or bee helmet, and inf champ boots or storm tassets if you wanna go full non champ

Or ye anchor instead of crusher or ideal champ sword

[mortal flume]

5 pc emp with 1 cup 1 book of the dead and 1 polar ring

[sharp fable]

What’s better for Inf army?
I can make both

[karmic stratus]

Lantern is better in my opinion if the sole purpose is just for infantry blast

[mortal flume]

Get lantern for a bit more hp

[eager mortar]

Really a matter of preference, I personally like skullcrusher. If you can build up your stats over skullcrusher you’ll be that much better off. With the addition of army att, you’re missing about 16% inf/cav att. 424 is a min/max concept, maximizing inf/cav output at the expense of range. However, the higher your overall stats are the better your outcome will consistently be. Anchor does have the advantage of cav hp.

Whatever you choose, make sure you focus artifacts for range/cav hp.

[drifting hazel]

Is a mythic frostwing with NO astra better? Until I get my skull crusher gold/mythic

[vagrant moon]

Yes

[mortal flume]

Ofc

[pearl heron]

myth frostwing better yes

[mortal flume]

If you get 4-5 astra lvls it's better then mythic crusher

[wet kraken]

Hi

[drifting hazel]

Is it better than gold skull crusher with 0 astra ?

[mortal flume]

Ofc

[drifting hazel]

okay thanks guys

[cosmic knot]

Huh? I don't know exact stats of fw sword +5, but it's definitely worse than mythic skullcrusher

Fw sword+12 gives total of 105% atk, and that's exacly the same as skullcrusher with no astra

[mortal flume]

sorry gold crusher

just get emp main hand

[sharp fable]

Found this. Makes total sense. Building Ghastly Cane too. I’m going for champion light. It’s almost finished

[mortal flume]

mitts better in most cases in mix set

[slate rock]

That's chatgpt isn't it

[toxic dock]

Even what's up have one like same chat gpt

[sharp fable]

It’s from lordsmobilepro dot com

[eager mortar]

To be fair, the hp isn’t that big on eerie lantern. Get yourself that terror shield and it’ll hit just fine.

[sharp fable]

I’m talking about the offhand. Of course I’m using terror shield

[eager mortar]

I know you’re talking about the offhand, and I’m saying that although most would consider eerie lantern to be better due to hp. It’s not a lot of hp.
Meaning you should be okay without it.

[sharp fable]

I see what you saying 👌

[eager mortar]

👍🏼

[random cove]

Should've saved the materials for the Cane and u can use Champ Offhand for Inf as well

[sharp fable]

Agreed. I noticed too late. I’m using champ for mixed and INF now and working on Cane

[dim rain]

Base stats wondering if I should get castle skins or if it would be cheaper to just finish gear and other base stats with artifacts

My gear is up in these chats

[unreal harbor]

Do artifacts

[dim rain]

But I only have 2 skins lvl 4

[unreal harbor]

Artifacts cheaper and more stats boost

Or just do both, you can get more than enough artifact coins from monthly supplies, gold pass in kingdom labor and this daily claims

[karmic stratus]

Artifacts first

[dry laurel]

I once calculated how much it costs to buy and Max out a 2 attack castle skin and I think it was around 200$ with Bogo packs but I am not sure

[mortal flume]

artifacts is like 300% while castle skins are around 150%

and 1 castle skin cost hundreds to 5 star

and nowadays it's 150$ to get it

[kindred gazelle]

after making mythic champ boots which piece is best to go for next

[slate rock]

Faith

[dry laurel]

id say the cav helm is pretty good but you could also go for chestplate if you need the upkeep reduction

[valid zealot]

?

[cosmic knot]

<@&917948198297944104>

he sent that in almost every channel

[distant tendon]

got it

[karmic stratus]

Cavalry helmet, or a weapon. Chest piece bad value in my opinion.

[kindred gazelle]

Thanks guys yeah was thinking cav helm chests seems a lot of work and money

[rain pilot]

which one is better ?/

[mortal flume]

This one better

[rain pilot]

where can i get that

[vagrant moon]

Spend 1 million $

[rain pilot]

no i dont want that you can have it

[mortal flume]

All you have to do is : get a job at igg and they will give something like this to you

[slate rock]

1M is very less lmao

[rain pilot]

they wont give me job

[slate rock]

Why

[rain pilot]

why you have pig emoji?

[slate rock]

I stuff pork in people's mouth

[vagrant moon]

[rain pilot]

and what people stuff you with?

[slate rock]

Chew on it

[rain pilot]

how can i get something like this for free

[slate rock]

Thug shake infront of IGG hq

[rain pilot]

i am faraway , can you do instead of me

[vagrant moon]

You can’t

[rain pilot]

but he can

[vagrant moon]

Who can?

[rain pilot]

Meow 🐷

[vagrant moon]

I have no idea what you’re talking about

[rain pilot]

he will twerk in front of igg hq to get 1 for me

[vagrant moon]

Ok

[mortal flume]

Get a job at igg

That free cost is nothing

[cobalt shard]

This with mythic cup Or

This with mythic fw,ring and gold cup

Tassets will be gold and helm will be mythic next week

[rocky knoll]

Fw is a waste of embers

You can do your ring mythic and 2nd gold cup more stats than just cup mythic

[pine pike]

Good stats for this mix? We do have forts so ig remove 25% off each

[rocky knoll]

It's ok, you base stats are a bit low, might be good to focus a bit more on artifacts instead of further gear upgrades

If you're spending on the game there's one gifts galore that would be very good for you that comes out at start of royal coin events, it gives you royal coins, some astra and very important for where your account is at - jewel chests for 8$, royal coins would be good cuz looking at your base stats you should be missing a lot of unlocks on artifacts that come from those so there's a lot of cheap stats for you there

[pine pike]

Alright. Should I focus on the single atk stat artifacts you think or the ones with double atk? I’ve noticed the single ones give more atk but ofc just 1 atk troop instead of the 2. For example*

[rocky knoll]

If f2p than ignore that

[rocky knoll]

You don't want to go above lvl8 on artifacts initially

[pine pike]

Yeah have stopped spending. Almost a year without spending lol.

[rocky knoll]

If you can just screenshot your golds and first 2 rows of purples I can give you some more specific advice

[pine pike]

Ngl I have a horrible habit of seeing artifact quests and just upgrading random artifacts to do my GF lmao so a bit of a mess

[rocky knoll]

Are you a solo trap ?

[pine pike]

Nah lol. 700m might

[rocky knoll]

You get fury ?

Cuz I see compass got no love at all

[pine pike]

Yeah I’ll go fury

[rocky knoll]

And it's one of the best artifacts

But it's fury stats

[pine pike]

I did not know that. That will be added to my notes lol

[rocky knoll]

Well the next thing you should do is lvl8 on compass and calendar.

Than lvl5 on all the golds that give you any atk and the golds that give you research speed (not for the research speeds, they also give very good hp), then do the meteor watch to lvl6.

Overall you want all your golds that show 12% atk when you look at maxed stats preview at lvl6 and the ones that give 20+ at max preview at lvl7. And atk purples all at least lvl5

[pine pike]

Alright. After artifacts anything else I should focus on?

[rocky knoll]

The 3 kings journey ones (2x24% atk ones) and compass 1 lvl above the 20+ at max ones

[rocky knoll]

Jewels mainly but that's hard to focus f2p since it's just what you get from fam and guild coins

[pine pike]

I’ve tried staying away from research most my might is Troops but any research that should be focused on? I’m aware that it’s something to stay away. I’m terrified of researching and gaining that extra useless might lol

[rocky knoll]

3 fam battle slots, counters, pact4 and T5

Optional helmet sigil unlock

With all that you can still be under 300m research might

[pine pike]

Gotcha I appreciate the help. All this information is definitely getting put into notes haha

[rocky knoll]

if you don't have it pact 4 is a must get for f2p

it will make your progress with jewels speed up a lot

[pine pike]

Yeah will need to work on that ASAP my jewels are lacking quite a bit

[rocky knoll]

hoarder is the fam you want from there

[pine pike]

All are purp with the few golds been stuck on those for a minute

[rocky knoll]

and than you can also choose one shield familiar, would recommend either hoarder (inf) or snowbeast (range) to work on with your yellow orbs to help with defending against mix rallies and for frontline you want to sleep in

[pine pike]

Which would you recommend? I’m thinking Inf maybe? I like to sit inf wedge and range wedge. Don’t really mess with phals to much

[rocky knoll]

well when you defend mix the options people choose between are usually range or inf phal, some also do inf wedge

I personally like range

but I also stacked a bunch of extra t2 range on all of my accounts

both are viable options it's mainly preference, range is better if you get countered by a rally than inf tho so when you sleep range wedge is usually the most annoying formation to zero if comp is good

range wedge is very bad against mix rallies tho so that's a tradeoff

[pine pike]

Gotcha. So if I’m understanding off the first part Heavy t2=Range fam less heavy on t2 Inf fam? Ofc considering I’m sleeping in Range wedge?

[rocky knoll]

well people usually stack one t2 type frontline when making a troop composition

so depending which one you'd like best you should get shield fam for that

but if you sleep in range wedge I'd get the range one

it will make loses hurt less if you get hit while offline sleeping before you get on

[pine pike]

Gotcha.

[karmic stratus]

A lot less too

If you have 10,000,000 archers, like 700,000 of them are affected by it for however long it is

[kindred gazelle]

Which paid fams are the best to upgrade at first

[broken lagoon]

Yes

[broken lagoon]

Jade

[sick sage]

Anyone can give me the best pre level 60 gear for both defense and mix attack

[fallow elk]

Its not lvl 60 bro. -_-

[unreal harbor]

He said pre level 60

[cosmic knot]

Finnaly got scroll to gold and now wonder if i should replace drum or polar ring

[mortal flume]

Bro it's a fake set no need for it

[dense sapphire]

Drumb to cup

[vagrant moon]

It’s his fake set

[mortal flume]

Drumb

Tbh without a cup everyone will guess it's fake

But they are really curious about real so they end up taking it

[cosmic knot]

I'm too poor to get even purple cup for fake gear

[cosmic knot]

And no, not everyone

[pearl heron]

I'd honestly swap polar ring out, seeing a ring without a cup is already very suspicious

[light frigate]

Mythich bummble helm or saber helm ?

[twin minnow]

Bumbke

[mortal flume]

Depends

[light frigate]

On ?

[mortal flume]

Stat balance

[light frigate]

U could do that with gems and artifacts tho

[mortal flume]

Gems ?

[mortal flume]

Artifacts?? Hell nah

Tell me how to balance it more

Mix 550 560 520

I literally have almost none of the cav atk ones ( artifacts)

And only 1 gold cav jewel missing

Only reason why I will change to beast helm is to get a more 424 ish gear

[eager mortar]

If that’s the case why not just hit the cavalry artifacts and keep gear as it is? lol

[eager mortar]

You can get 424 stats with the bumblehelm lol

[mortal flume]

like i can ask igg in a mail to give me them LOL

[mortal flume]

not with my current set LOL

and i want 1 book of the dead as well

[eager mortar]

Book of the dead is mostly trash. I use it in my 424 and inf blast. If you’re trying for the new accessories you’re better off with polar ring.

[mortal flume]

if i make polar ring my range will skyrocket

and i want book of the dead to replace either 1 ring or 1 cup

[eager mortar]

Since you went for inf boots, which imo is unwise for someone with 2 cups and a blight. A polar ring is another way to add more cav.

[mortal flume]

you don'T understand my problem

my problem is rng too high and cav too low

literally it has a 40% difference

[eager mortar]

What I understand is probably beyond your current understanding. Higher your stats are, the better. Range included, even for a 424

[mortal flume]

and with equal amount of gold jewels it will be even higher since i only have 2 gold rng jewels

with all gold my stats will be 560 600 535

this is my issue rng and cav difference is too big that's why i want to lower my rng and increase cav but by using a polar ring nothing will change just inf goes down

[eager mortar]

That’s a better defensive stat distribution than 424 is. TBH.

[eager mortar]

Inf goes down which is also okay, because you have infantry boots. Which will eventually bring it back up anyway

[mortal flume]

i have no problem with inf being higher then rng

my offline front is inf wedge either way

[eager mortar]

Then you lack understanding for what’s important for inf wedge. Because your current stat distribution is ideal. Infantry attack does nothing for you if you’re countered in infantry wedge. It’s ranged attack that will have the biggest effect on your defensive capabilities. And even if you were to counter, ranged attack again.

[mortal flume]

rng will always hit harder then everything else just because they have more base atk

[eager mortar]

Incorrect, base attack has nothing to do with it as all troops have the same base stats.

[mortal flume]

lol not

[eager mortar]

You wanna know why range hits hard?

[mortal flume]

here is your reason there you go

[eager mortar]

It’s because even if you’re countered with inf, inf are the second slowest troop. And ranged hardly move.

[mortal flume]

you see it has 120 more atk then inf

and 108 more atk then cav

[eager mortar]

Idc about where you got those bogus stats

[mortal flume]

= stronger base stats

[eager mortar]

Unless it’s from IGG

[mortal flume]

it'S from igg wdym

[eager mortar]

give me a link

[mortal flume]

igg themselves made this

https://lordsmobile.fandom.com/wiki/Troop#Tier_5

[eager mortar]

Fandom

You fail lol

[mortal flume]

you failed

[eager mortar]

You realize that any wiki allows users to input information, and that it’s not IGG

[mortal flume]

LOL

[mortal flume]

this isn't you must be talking about wikipedia

[eager mortar]

https://lordsmobile.fandom.com/wiki/Troop#Tier_5

[mortal flume]

and they will check the information

[eager mortar]

Look at your link.
Lords Mobile, FANDOM, Wiki

[mortal flume]

also what you said doesn'T prove that why range hits harder then everything else

[eager mortar]

It does

[mortal flume]

this isn'T showing it

what you said is just " inf slower " rng won't move

this is what you said not why it hits harder

[eager mortar]

You just don’t understand the game well enough to understand why ranged hit cav so hard. Because cav run right into their death the fastest. Inf which counters range takes the longest amount of time to get there.

[mortal flume]

basically you are saying why rng wedge is the hardest to zero KEKW

[eager mortar]

lol what a joke you are. Lack of knowledge and experience. You don’t know the true reason why r wedge is the best defensive formation. Do you?

[mortal flume]

i know why it's the best

but i's not about that rn

[eager mortar]

No, because you know nothing about formations, squads, retarget

[mortal flume]

it'S about RANGE HAS THE MOST BASE STATS that's why they hit harder

[mortal flume]

sure

[eager mortar]

Well maybe, you know it’s called r wedge

[mortal flume]

mr biggest nerd alive

[eager mortar]

That’s a start I suppose

[eager mortar]

All troops have the same base stats. Excluding research, artifacts, castle stars. Every troop is the same.

There’s counters, and countered, not that difficult

[mortal flume]

if everytroop is the same why inf walks slow?

it should be as fast as cav if every troop is the same

why inf lives longer then cav ?

[eager mortar]

Speed is another factor altogether. I’m talking att and Hp

[mortal flume]

oh wait it's because they are the same but inf has more luck in a fight to stay alive

not because cav has less hp

totally not because of that they are just lucky

[eager mortar]

lol, you’re utterly clueless. Inf has the best chance of walkback for a few reasons.

It’s because the most popular formations are inf wedge and r wedge. Landing inf/inf still does good damage if the lead is strong. And if they are a proper lead, with good hp, which is required btw for anyone rallying with inf. Then they have a higher chance at walking back.

Infantry sucks when you start out, it’s the upgrades that make it the most well rounded blast to use.

[mortal flume]

noone talking about walkbacks here

you are always changing topic so funny

[eager mortar]

No, you don’t get it

What makes inf good are the additional stats added to it. Not its base

[mortal flume]

i don't get it ? brother you don't get it

[eager mortar]

Same with any troop type

[mortal flume]

hit a t2 now

go ahead hit a t2 camp

one will have a mix and in rng front sogo inf

[eager mortar]

I’m not wasting my time with someone that doesn’t even know why r wedge is good.

[mortal flume]

one will have mix and cav front look at the dmg

[eager mortar]

Which is all relevant to what you’re saying btw

[mortal flume]

the assumptions goes hard

🐒

[eager mortar]

You’re not as good as you think you are, you’re the one making assumptions here.

[mortal flume]

i'M not making assumptions

[eager mortar]

Everything on the internet is true, even from a wiki

[mortal flume]

where tf i made one LOL you are the one saying you must be really stupid

[eager mortar]

Go ahead

[mortal flume]

you don't even know retargeting

which has nothing to do with basic attributes

[eager mortar]

I’d smash you two light years into the Stone Age with what I know about retargeting

[mortal flume]

gl have fun budy

see you on the battlefield

[eager mortar]

I could beat you leaderless lol, not even a challenge

[mortal flume]

wow you must be really proud of yourself

"hahaha i was the one that spent more money now i will hit you leaderless hahaha i'm so good at this game oh yeah"

if we were having the same stats and everything i would beat you LOL

[eager mortar]

Nah, you don’t know anything

I spend because I’m good at it, not the other way around.

[mortal flume]

because the WoW fight is like playing chess

[eager mortar]

How profound of you to say, do you know how to play chess?

You should stay there, easier for you

[mortal flume]

it's like playing chess bro

[eager mortar]

Talking wow with mythic mitts and purple gold gear. lol

[mortal flume]

bring a same tier acc and meet me in a wow fight

[eager mortar]

I could smash you in a t2 fight. No heroes, no fams

[mortal flume]

i have more knowledge than you probably

[mortal flume]

i would love to see that

[eager mortar]

Give me a kd

[mortal flume]

i'm in ca rn

so pk1

[eager mortar]

Let’s go

[mortal flume]

let's go

send me cords

[maiden osprey]

send cords @eager mortar

😂

[eager mortar]

I’m waiting

[mortal flume]

"polar ring is better for your cav "

[mortal flume]

same

[eager mortar]

It is

[mortal flume]

why ?

it increase my rng stats which is what i don'T want

and you keep saying that you should get more rng and more and more and more

i rather use my rng blast then

[eager mortar]

Go

[mortal flume]

1 sec

[eager mortar]

Im waiting @mortal flume

[mortal flume]

steam update

set camp

[maiden osprey]

what u trying to do

😂

[mortal flume]

he said he can beat me leaderless , no heroes, no fams

really intrested about that

with his 12 blessed

[maiden osprey]

I mean maybe, it's possible

[mortal flume]

hard to understand why he needs 50% size for bouncing rallies off himself

but i'm not wasting gems on him

[maiden osprey]

he's sending t2s

[plain dawn]

1356804794

[mortal flume]

i did not blast him

if i wanted to i could have inf blast him out but i did not do it for fair play

"i could beat you with no heroes "

[maiden osprey]

lets go full t4's with lead and fams?

[mortal flume]

nah i lose i did not spend that much money on this game

would love to see him fight me with same account as i have

XDDDD

[maiden osprey]

lol heroes and fams

[mortal flume]

khm khm heroes

i wanna see if i could beat you

send a camp with leader

@maiden osprey

[maiden osprey]

coco is weak af lol

[mortal flume]

dude said i should use polar ring

[mortal flume]

i want to see i did hit ppl with gear around that

[eager mortar]

What’s the 2 on 1 bs?

[spare lily]

Igg id 1056912820

[mortal flume]

and won a few times

[eager mortar]

And I did say I could beat you leaderless. That turns out not to be true

[mortal flume]

it's doable

[eager mortar]

But I’m not using fams either

[mortal flume]

i could beat coco if i send a counter

[eager mortar]

Yall using leaders and gear +fams

[maiden osprey]

@eager mortar lets go full t5 fams and all?

[eager mortar]

Let’s go

[maiden osprey]

i can bring another account

[mortal flume]

well you said you could beat me like that

still waiting for it tho

[mortal flume]

you noodled here @eager mortar

[maiden osprey]

@mortal flume whats the cords

[mortal flume]

even with fams you lose

with leader you would won but you don't have good base stats for leaderless

and this is how i want my mix set to look like

or maybe cup instead of ring

[eager mortar]

With leader you win none, but that wasn’t the agreement.

[maiden osprey]

@mortal flume

[mortal flume]

wow

you won by 2k ?

[maiden osprey]

he's using p5's 😂

[eager mortar]

Well, let’s just say you guys are hitting 300 mix

So it would be sad if you couldn’t win

[mortal flume]

i know

i did beat him when he had p5

[maiden osprey]

go hit me fox

[eager mortar]

500 mix to 300 mix

[mortal flume]

slot 5 is killing me

also better gear

[mortal flume]

you did not expect these stats with my gear LOL

i just do cheap upgrades for stat increase

anyone want this LOL?

[eager mortar]

Your gear is less than my speed gear

[maiden osprey]

fox look dms

[eager mortar]

And whoever that was I hit, sorry for the 378k

[mortal flume]

do i look like someone who carte?

[eager mortar]

Just so you know, I didn’t just pop that to hit

[mortal flume]

but why would you use 50% size for bouncing rallies?

makes no sense to me

or you mean wow rallies ?

[eager mortar]

Because, more troops the better. Garrison bounce

[maiden osprey]

lets go no p5's

sirsky

[mortal flume]

oh garisson then makes sense

i didn't understand why would you bounce rallies with 50% size boost

[eager mortar]

Wasn’t full or anything, it was pretty sad for them.

[mortal flume]

how much stats you get from artifacts?

should i gamble it ?

[maiden osprey]

no

[maiden osprey]

why hide name, lets see his gear

[mortal flume]

my artifacts sucks but i don'T do useless ones

[eager mortar]

Nothing crazy

[mortal flume]

you don't have much more for around almost 200 more stars

you must've done useless ones

[eager mortar]

Let’s see the rest of yours, you stopped early

[eager mortar]

I mean stat page

[mortal flume]

i don't really care about fury ones

[maiden osprey]

whats ur stats with mix

[mortal flume]

@maiden osprey we don't talk about this LOL

[maiden osprey]

u scouted

-.-

[eager mortar]

This is all you need to know, speed gear

[maiden osprey]

bro i saw ur gear

[vagrant moon]

[maiden osprey]

just show stats 😂

[mortal flume]

that's not your speed gear

[eager mortar]

Wanna bet?

[mortal flume]

we all know your gear

even gijssie knows it

[vagrant moon]

His gear

[mortal flume]

nope

it used to be his

[vagrant moon]

Oh then idk

[mortal flume]

let me send it to you

[vagrant moon]

Alright

[maiden osprey]

only in dms

[eager mortar]

I’ll show 992 stat to prove it is speed gear

[mortal flume]

ofc only in there

[mortal flume]

weak

[eager mortar]

When you get to 800 in two stats let me know

[mortal flume]

not even 1k%

[maiden osprey]

lol sharap fox

[mortal flume]

i would love to take a rally from him

[eager mortar]

That’s not what I use for wonders

So no, that isn’t the mix I’d show you

[mortal flume]

btw @eager mortar did you forget to do artifacts or why you only have 12 blessed but like 1 pc mythic champ?

[vagrant moon]

What do you think will happen when you show your mix lol, it’s not like you’re getting hacked or anything

[maiden osprey]

champ is cheaper than artis

[mortal flume]

well i spent 30$ on artifacts and got me this far

it's just how you spend your money

you can get so many artifact coins for cheap

i have this much opened

[maiden osprey]

if ur spend limited, i'd buy weekly and labors

[vagrant moon]

#🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat message I love his recruitment posts

[mortal flume]

and the 12k coins from that 30 days pass

what i did was i bought labor pass weekly shit and daily login

[eager mortar]

You’d likely burn if I rally.

[mortal flume]

still would be good

i would see how much i would lose

and my comp not ready yet

still missing like 300m troop might LOL

[eager mortar]

What’s the current count? And what’s the target count?

[mortal flume]

have some in beds rn

target is 3m each t4 and 8m ish t2

[eager mortar]

Good goal

[eager mortar]

Wouldn’t make it far currently

Would play in your favor if it’s a mix rally

[mortal flume]

i have t4 in beds and some t2

[eager mortar]

Inf phal it, lower losses

But a blast would burn

[mortal flume]

haven't tested yet with a 1k% dude

[eager mortar]

If I had players up I would, I’m 1050-1120 across the board.

[mortal flume]

someone hit me in da after everything closed

and i had less t4

let me show report

[eager mortar]

We’re ARs with you? Or against?

[mortal flume]

You can see that I have lower amount of troops I had 900k each t4

and if i have to guess he is around 900% mark

also he went rng phal idk why

[mortal flume]

you know when it closes there are no attack boosts to anyone

[eager mortar]

Well, if that’s true then my army att wouldn’t be 500+ after the forts close

[mortal flume]

at the end of da?

[eager mortar]

Yes

[mortal flume]

i did not have more army atk then i would have

[eager mortar]

I’ll try to look for it tomorrow

[mortal flume]

will see today

[eager mortar]

You called my 992 relatively low, which it is. But consider I don’t use frostwing either. So I have higher army att, lower inf/cav att. 40% army att at current temper

[mortal flume]

it is lower because you don't have the artifacts

if you were having them you would have more

one of my guildmates has 0 champ pieces and getting really close to 1k

and you have 1

[eager mortar]

You don’t need champ to get 1k. That’s achievable with horned cudgel, bumble, firewall, garg belt, dragon fist, and 3 drums

[mortal flume]

that's a blast LOL

talking about mix

[eager mortar]

How many castle stars?

I know they’re irrelevant to the stat boost compared to artifacts. Just wondering

[mortal flume]

not much

less then yours

[eager mortar]

The how many blessed?

[mortal flume]

21

[eager mortar]

Levels? And art stars?

[mortal flume]

lower amount of stars and lower amount of lvls

[eager mortar]

That’s bs

Show me and I’ll believe you

[unreal harbor]

You can get same boost % for the attack stats with non champ gear but you will miss hella army hp and army attack %

[mortal flume]

yes

that's the problem with non champ leads

[mortal flume]

why lol

[eager mortar]

No one I know, under 40 castle stars, no champ, 21 blessed, with under art 800 levels and 500 stars. Has 1k mix

[mortal flume]

it'S achieveable you just don'T understand how artifact lvls and stars doesn't matter

[eager mortar]

Not even a champ will have that

[mortal flume]

kari doesn't have that much lvls and stars compared to others

[eager mortar]

Kari has over 40 blessed

[mortal flume]

but lower amount of stars

[eager mortar]

But higher levels

[mortal flume]

stars doesn'T matter at all

if you only do atk hp ones you will have way less stars then a maxed lead

[eager mortar]

Then you’ll lack Hp

[mortal flume]

if we compare 2 maxed leads 1 with everything maxed and 1 with only atk hp ones

[mortal flume]

it'S doable

[unreal harbor]

If you only do attack artifacts you are 750 base stats with 1200 levels and 60 blessed

[eager mortar]

Show your friend with 21 blessed that has close to 1k mix

[mortal flume]

especially when you don't even upgrade def ones

just completely ignore them

[unreal harbor]

And 580 or something stars

[mortal flume]

isn't it more now ?

there was a collab with atk hp artifact like 2 months ago

or might be less

[unreal harbor]

230 castle stars and dude got 1.1-1.2k mix

[mortal flume]

how many champ pieces?

[unreal harbor]

Well +12 to 15 temper champ

[unreal harbor]

Full

[mortal flume]

seems right

but champ is known for hp boost

except offhand

offhand is just dumb

seen many ppl swapping champ to this

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those base stats holy