🏹┊equipment

[rocky knoll]

from gear + it also has more love in terms of artifacts

[mild python]

The bw accessory comes with cav and range attack

[patent silo]

but in blast, you need to focus on 1 type

[quaint cedar]

the accessory they mean?

[quaint cedar]

bw accessory is more for 055

[rocky knoll]

cup is more for 550

[quaint cedar]

Well, ring gives more army hp and since you're using bw boots, I wouldn't recommend you making the accessory as well (personal opinion)

i guess it's like how some people wouldn't recommend working on the scroll and skullcrusher at the same time 🤷‍♂️

[shell dock]

[quaint cedar]

also maggot isn't used anywhere else based on my knowledge

[mild python]

I never do scroll

[quaint cedar]

you changed your ethnicity again? XD

[shell dock]

I speak lots

[mild python]

Skullcrusher ideal for mix?

[shell dock]

Yes

[quaint cedar]

y

[shell dock]

Just not the language of the country I’m in currently

[quaint cedar]

aren't you in GB rn? XD

[shell dock]

No

[quaint cedar]

wait but you were a while ago, no?

[shell dock]

A year ago

[quaint cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/huh-heh-interesting-confused-confusion-gif-22475884

I'm utterly confused lol

[shell dock]

I went back for a funeral like 2 months ago

[quaint cedar]

thought you mentioned smth about gb... guess i have it wrong in my mind

[quaint cedar]

oh, my condolences. i think it was around that time when you mentioned being in gb

[patent silo]

2 maggots for 055 and 1 for mix

only

[quaint cedar]

meant the accessory

should have been more specific, my bad

[shell dock]

Have you not seen 3 ring kings?

[shell dock]

I would react to your message but I’m blocked from reacting anywhere

[patent silo]

wait, for what 3 maggot rings?

[shell dock]

Yes

[patent silo]

for what formation?

[shell dock]

Mix 442 and some

[mild python]

@quaint cedar i looked at my inventory and right now I have two options :

A : i can Upgrade Wyrm Main hand to gold right now but keeping wyrm helmet at purple

B : Save the orbs in order to get wyrm helm to gold but keeping wyrm main hand at blue

What should I do?

[shell dock]

Max Astra on them or close too

[shell dock]

Look at the stat differences in upgrading each piece

[mild python]

Im mainly looking at range set

[patent silo]

I think I didn't concentrate well with crystal briefs lol

[shell dock]

Huh

[patent silo]

when he was saying 442 gears

I watched him, that's why I started to know a bit in the formations

but still noob, just know the formtions and some how get countered

[shell dock]

I’d say blue to gold, it’s better stats upgrade then purple to gold helm

[patent silo]

need lot of time to understand it well

[shell dock]

The 3 rings just gives very high hp

[shell dock]

Takes a long while and mistakes to learn comps

I still learn some but haven’t led in a while

[quaint cedar]

i personally made rod mythic before I made my crown gold

There wasn't some tactical thought process. I just had itchy fingers 😅

[mild python]

Since its range only set, it may be worth it

Extra hp wont hurt

[shell dock]

Wyrm better

[mild python]

Rod?

[mild python]

Main hand ?

[shell dock]

Yes

Better stat increase hp and atk

[mild python]

Mixed set, before vs now

I had to change helm to get stats as close to even as possible.

Thoughts? @shell dock @quaint cedar

Range set, before vs now

My wyrm helm wasn't being used and it had purple range attack jewel, so i took it out then used it to get one gold range attack jewel and place it on blue cup

[patent silo]

you sure that skullcrusher stats is better than fw sword now?

[mild python]

Army attack stat does the same thing. It gives increased attack stat for the whole army/march whatever you call it

Instead of having separate attack stats separately between inf, range and cav, army attack stat is the equivalent of giving the 3 troop types attack boost at the same time

Thats why most players recommend having army attack heroes on turf for defending

Watcher, rose knight, chaos dragon etc

Army attack boosts all troop types at the same time

Army hp stats does the same thing for health

[deep rover]

The silly thing is that everyone asks for the ATK stats, but only for the Inf/Rng/Cav stats. Nobody includes the Army ATK stats, but realistically they should.

[quaint cedar]

well, bumble helm is better imo since it gives more army hp

[quaint cedar]

I think the golden rod is slightly better than the purple crusher

Rod gives range hp and slightly better atk (if you combine the crusher's range + army atk

[quaint cedar]

also not sure if a purple crusher is better than a golden sword. might have to ask @rocky knoll or @shell dock if they're online (whoever is online first)

[shell dock]

I’d prefer gold sword

20/20/12.5 for gold sword-
13/22.5/13 for purple crusher

[deep rover]

The army atk should really be multiplied by 3, as it goes to each army type in a mix set.

[mild python]

Think about it this way,

Gold Frostwing sword without purple jewels :
Infantry 20% attack
Range 12.5% attack
Cavalry 20% attack

Purple Skullcrusher without purple jewels :
Range attack 9%
Army attack 13%

Gold Frostwing with purple jewels :
Inf 32%
Range 24%
Cav 32%

Purple Skullcrusher with purple jewels :
Inf 12%
Range 21%
Cav 12%
Army attack 13%
But taking army attack boost into consideration
Inf 25%
Range 34%
Cav 25%

If I'm wrong, please correct me

[shell dock]

Bumble helm

[quaint cedar]

seems like fws has better mixed stats 👍

[shell dock]

Gold fw is better until skull crusher can become gold

[mild python]

That helm led me to having low inf attack %

[shell dock]

At the start your gear will never be perfectly balance

It gives you army hp which will help you a little longer and take less damage then higher inf stat

[shell dock]

Also skull crusher set better by a single 1%

[quaint cedar]

Also the typical mixed set will be low on cav stats in the end

[shell dock]

Yep

[mild python]

But losing out on range hp

[shell dock]

The games morale is army attack-army hp- army defence, so keep your army hp higher with bumble

[shell dock]

Blast you want to do as much damage as possible

Mix rallies you want to walk back and if target is online and want walk back with decent ish dmg

[quaint cedar]

you can put the range atk jewel onto the rod if you want

[mild python]

Too late, used it to get a gold range attack jewel and put it in blue cup

The blue cups are in mixed, range and inf set so im not losing much

Might need to look more into army attack vs separate attack stats for each troop type

[quaint cedar]

Alright 👍

Don't forget to split jewels if necessary

[shell dock]

What colour are your jewels

[abstract blade]

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

[abstract blade]

only colour matters to you? are you racist?

[shell dock]

Blasts need separate stats being focused

[shell dock]

Yes Michael

[abstract blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-leave-gif-26374613

[quaint cedar]

no need to focus on blasts. mixed is the most important set imo

[abstract blade]

and thats why you are a noob

[shell dock]

Mix is important if you will be furying and defending , blasts if your going to be attacking other castles this is obv

[abstract blade]

yis

[mild python]

With purple Skullcrusher, I am losing out on Inf and Cav attack but gain more range attack.

My infantry familiar stack and range familiar stack are lvl 10 so im not worried as much, i use DA as good practice mode to test gears

My cav stack is lvl 9 but that might change soon

[quaint cedar]

isn't it more important to defend tho?

if you rally other people with a blast, you'll have to fury and defend 1 or 2 rallies minimum

a good mixed set would come in handy, no?

[shell dock]

Yes defence is key

But I also don’t understand what they are saying

[mild python]

The familiar stackers are good for defending and attacking

[shell dock]

Not good for defending if bigudh comp

[quaint cedar]

i'd only recommend stackers or other fams that activate when a certain % of troops have fallen for smaller comps

[mild python]

The gryphon only good for attacking in rally, defending not so much

[shell dock]

Tbf I wouldn’t use stackers in any comp personally

[mild python]

I am not lucky with jewels, i always get siege jewels or defence jewels

[shell dock]

So what’s your question about skull crusher or fw

[quaint cedar]

if you're still wondering about your blast sets, you'll be using many pieces of your mixed gear since they might give better stats than some of your blast pieces

[shell dock]

Yep

[mild python]

Currently, i have 101 blue Queen venoms. I need 160 to get bumblehelm to gold

Thank you bargain store

[quaint cedar]

👍

[shell dock]

Ok

[sleek night]

Yo I'm just starting and I want to know what's the best thing to research?

[shell dock]

Monster hunt

[sleek night]

Oh alright thanks

[mild python]

Losing out 8% cav and inf attack does not bother me toomuch, mixed set is used for defending and the stackers help to compensate my missing attack stats

[shell dock]

Monster research tree

Get to level 3 monster then research economy and military

Don’t research wall

[shell dock]

Where are you losing these stats

Show the two gears you’re talking about

[mild python]

Purple Skullcrusher with purple jewels vs Gold FW with purple jewels

Mixed set

[quaint cedar]

how many fam slots do you have and which fams are you using on your wall?

[abstract blade]

https://tenor.com/view/wave-blow-kiss-kiss-gif-15503964

[shell dock]

Gold fw better

[mild python]

4 slots
Inf stack lvl 10
Range stack lvl 10
Cav stack lvl 9
Gryphon lvl 10
Evil weevil lvl 10
Aquiris lvl 10

[shell dock]

Why using stackers if Aquarius and evil weavil max

[mild python]

What i have currently

[quaint cedar]

^

[mild python]

On my wall, inf stack, range stack, evil weevil and aquiris

[shell dock]

Ok

I’d prefer gryphon over inf stacker

[mild python]

Gryphon for defending turf ia not ideal, ten percent of your total army needs to die for gryphon to act

Whereby, the stackers only need a % of that specific troop type to die to activate

For example, if you have 30 Million troops in your turf, 3 million must die for gryphon to activate

[shell dock]

What’s your current comp

This will decide what stackers you use

[deep rover]

I don't use stackers at all.

[shell dock]

They have no choice

[shell dock]

With your gear there is no way your not taking 10% damage

[mild python]

I did take rallies on DA with gryphon on wall, i was simply curious to find out if having stackers instead of gryphon would make me lose more

Of course soo far, i ate those rallies but that may be due to moat of them not knowing what they were doing

[mild python]

Im willing to test both on the next DA

Ive used gryphon for a long time, it will be interesting to see how things will go

[shell dock]

Test kvk

Saturday

[mild python]

Of course, when the T5 titans show up thats when im screwed

[shell dock]

What’s your comp like

[mild python]

For defending a fort in DA or my turf?

[shell dock]

Turf

[mild python]

I use range wedge, works 60% of the time. The other 40% are from T5 titans

[shell dock]

What is your troops composition

Your individual troop count

[mild python]

Mainly mixed, i was zeroed a couple of months ago and i have almost recovered.

T2 and T4 only

[shell dock]

Omg

Give numbers

Take a ss

Hide your name hide your guild chat

I don’t care

Just give numbers

[mild python]

3 million t4 each except siege
4mill t2 each except cav, atill recovering that

[shell dock]

Thankyou

What’s your mix stats too, I’m guessing around 400-450

[mild python]

Yes

[shell dock]

There is no way with your current comp you take less then 10% damage against a max champ

[mild python]

Thankfully, i have had to deal with a max champs in DA before, those matches were one sided,

Those were painful lessons to learn

[deep rover]

How so? It was DA, you get your troops back.

[mild python]

I stated that i was zeroed a couple months back due to my phone's battery being dead and couldn't get online to shield

But hey, luckily sanctuary ia a thing so i recovered most of them

[deep rover]

Being "zeroed" is no big deal these days, what with sanctuary. I got zeroed before sanctuary so many times I lost count.

[mild python]

P2p players can easily recover fast

[deep rover]

minor P2P here. About $20 a month. It is fun though, and I will admit shields are my best friend.

[mild python]

[shell dock]

Against a max champ you’ll always take 10% damage minimum with your current stats and comp

But I also don’t know who you play against and if you do war

[mild python]

Im mainly a t4 filler for DA but rarely outside of it

Thats the role i chose to mold myself, knowing i will never have the stats to be a lead

[shell dock]

You can still fill outside of da

You need to spend quite a bit to be a lead

[mild python]

Thats why i said rarely outside of DA

[shell dock]

You can do it often

Bet you’re a little fatty

Like 900m

[mild python]

You got it right

[shell dock]

You should be fine to fury most places

I doubt you stay +12 champ kds often

[mild python]

I want to build up enough t2's so that when i have enough, i can convert my manors into med bays

[shell dock]

Get to 8m each

[mild python]

Noted, thank you.

[shell dock]

Then you can slow roll to 10m each

Do you spend money

[mild python]

No, pure F2P

My current training speed is 547%

[shell dock]

Your gear will catch up by the time you reach 8m each t2 then

[deep rover]

Do you have your Hell Drider Familiar at L10 on the Convocation skill?

[mild python]

Yes

[shell dock]

But there will probably be another update raising stats even higher making your comp needing to be bigger by that stage

[deep rover]

That is actually the fastest way to get T4 without using speeds

[mild python]

Familiar update did that

[shell dock]

It’s already close to 600% white stats

[quaint cedar]

Familiar update?

when was that?

[shell dock]

Idk

[mild python]

3 or 4 years ago?

[shell dock]

[quaint cedar]

[shell dock]

I’m taking new updates just stats getting higher in general

So your comp will constantly need to grow

And your stats will continuously need to get better

[mild python]

the artifacts is like a band aid for f2p who want to increase stats

I dont spend those artifacts coins recklessly

[shell dock]

They also help get base stats to 600%

For big spenders

[mild python]

Yep

I currently have 60K artifacts coins, 40k royal coins

Only using artifact coins for GuildFest

Those brushes are a pain to get

[shell dock]

I always have more brushes then books

But only open during gf

[mild python]

I would prefer to only use them in Expert or Master gauntlet but my guild hasn't been fortunate to advance or stay in Expert gauntlet a long time.

Busy with work, studies and ofher irl emergencies

[shell dock]

Life comes first at end of day

[mild python]

Yes it does

[shell dock]

Either way work your comp up

8m t2 with eventually need to become 10m each t2

And gold fw is better

[mild python]

I miss being able to get free hunter chest items from Expert

Thanks for the advice

[patent silo]

If you want to decrease damage done to your troops and kill the rally faster train t4, if you want more troops to take the damage and protect your t4 train t2

T2 won’t change much how you do against a rally it’s the t4 that does the damage

T2 just protect your t4s

[pine meteor]

How much do u think he has? As cav stats

[slate rock]

950+

[mortal flume]

About 800-900 idk how much research he has

[pine meteor]

I don’t think so

[slate rock]

Okay 👍

[pine meteor]

Sounds reasonable

[mortal flume]

It depends on what research he has and what artifacts are enhanced or upgraded

[pine meteor]

Yeah I know, but just roughly

[mortal flume]

.

It's like guess this lol

Or

[dry laurel]

i guess a lot lol

[mortal flume]

And what about this ?

[dry laurel]

a bit less than a lot

[mortal flume]

It's like guess the next lottery's winning numbers lol

[mortal flume]

Not many research done I'd guess about 800% mix

[dry laurel]

depends on how many troops he has. But yea probably around that

[mortal flume]

How many troops ?!

[dry laurel]

yea he could have like 100m research might but also 300m

[mortal flume]

I'll tell you that the minimum of research he needs for T4 is like 110m with counters

[dry laurel]

yea for t4 its like 70 i think and counter is only 24m

[clever glacier]

That does not have 800% mix

[shell dock]

950+

[toxic dock]

Wow spending only on champ gear ?

[shell dock]

This is 1028 so it’s 950+ for sure

[slate rock]

People underestimate how much stats +12 temper and gold jewels give

[shell dock]

I mean people pull stats out of everywhere nowadays

[slate rock]

Some people have strong pulling game

[mild python]

Quick question, should i :

A : Focus on getting Gargantuan belt to gold and ignore cav drums in cav gear.

B : Focus on getting 3 gold drums for cav gear.

Note i have 31 blue Gargantua eyes

I have one purple drum, 2 blue drums

[slate rock]

I'd go with belt
Drums are fairly easy to upgrade

[shell dock]

How many gold eyes is that

[mild python]

32 blue eyes = 2 gold eyes

[deep rover]

31 blue = 7 purple with 3 blue left over = 1 gold with 3 purple left over.

[shell dock]

What’s the current level of your drums and belt

[deep rover]

This

[mild python]

And Purple belt

[shell dock]

I don’t read

Ok

So 31 blue eyes is 1 gold and 3 purple

[mild python]

Yes

I have some chests i can open but i dont trust my luck

[shell dock]

Open then

It’s all rng based

[deep rover]

They do nothing if they are not opened, luck or no luck

[cosmic knot]

Then buy more chests and don't open them

[mild python]

So should i focus on getting gold drums?

The drums that i currently have gives me 24% cav attack without jewels

[slate rock]

Belt

[mild python]

Getting those 3 drums to gold bumps it to 48% before i put purple jewels

[shell dock]

I’d do drums

You’ll get drums finished quicker then you can your belt

[slate rock]

Belt is harder to upgrade compare to drums
Get belt and work on drums

[mild python]

With purple cav attack jewels, it gets to 84%

[dry laurel]

what is better try to upgrade all 3 drums to mythic with tempered or get the belt to gold

[shell dock]

Mythic and temper

[slate rock]

Belt

[dry laurel]

lol

[deep rover]

Getting purple belt to gold will increase cav attack by 13.5%
Getting 3 purple drums to gold will increase cav attack by 17.85%.

[shell dock]

Are you dumb

[slate rock]

No, I'm thinking differently than you
I'm thinking for long run not short term

[shell dock]

Getting drums to mythic and tempered is better stats then getting belt to gold

Who goes for a gold belt but blue drums

[dry laurel]

then i will do the short term thing

[slate rock]

You'll have to get belt to gold eventually

• Belt requires more eyes than drum
  Get gold belt
  And keep working on drums

[mild python]

Gold belt gives 37% withouf jewels, with purple cav jewels its 49%

[shell dock]

If you think long term you’ll be left behind in stats in the next updates, you want better stats now, not in the long run, yes both take time to do, but if you don’t spend drums is better

[slate rock]

You do you
If you think that's the right approach, sure go ahead lol

[mild python]

1 gold belt = 37% cav attack
3 gold drums = 48% cav attack

[dry laurel]

its s easy to get drum on mythic and tempered

[mild python]

Im going with gold drums

[shell dock]

It’s the better Choice

[deep rover]

drums with +4 temper are 24% cav atk each

[shell dock]

Drums are also one of the cheapest pieces to temper, and give good stat increases

[mild python]

My cav stats might be in 260-280 range once i do what i need to do.

My current cav stats is 227%

Ever since our convo from yesterday, i have been reorganising most of my gear sets

And i managed to greatly improve my range stats, it was 240% after getting wyrm rod but bumped it to 252% after removing a purple range jewel in a gear i was not using

Thank you guys for the suggestions

[deep rover]

Just remember there will always be differing opinions on gear. What one person swears by, another person will say it is rubbish. In the end, gather information and then make your own decision based on your own game play.

[mortal flume]

Bro you don't know how much research he done or. What artifacts are upgraded

[shell dock]

950

[rocky knoll]

this is with almost all stars being inf and havily focused artifacts for inf

if that dude isn't 950 he has to have some very crappy jewels

[patent silo]

the events now most want war, so youneed to improve stats to can join this events

[eager mortar]

With rejewel I’m about 980 cav. If I use book of the dead, I can reach 990 cav at the expense of -15% cav hp. Your set is nice

[shell dock]

What’s your might

[eager mortar]

High, 1.7

[rocky knoll]

Well that one is on my alt

My main is 1160 cav

[rocky knoll]

It's a nice set get that boomerang +12 it's cheap stats

[rocky knoll]

main has a bit more champ

[eager mortar]

I noticed it’s pretty cheap for the stat return. The belt costs quite a bit, but it gives quality stats as well.

[rocky knoll]

Boomerang is nicest since it's best in slot even if you take champ into account

Only emp offhand beats it for cav

So astra spent on it won't go to waste if at some point you start making champ

[eager mortar]

Im pretty set on what I have.. I only use the range plate (gold) in my range set.. rest is non champ

[eager mortar]

Well.. for non champ the belts also best In slot, albeit.. 3rd best

Nothing beats the terror shield though, for non champion piece lol.

[rocky knoll]

True that taking advantage of that on my alt the one with 900 cav lol

It has a +11 terror shield

It's very good stuff

[eager mortar]

Work in progress

[rocky knoll]

Feels so odd seeing all those new monster pieces and only one mythic cup lol

[eager mortar]

Lol, didn’t wanna be typical

[rocky knoll]

I did some fancy new monster stuff on main but my alt is as generic as it gets

[eager mortar]

New monster gear are as good as it gets.. for non champ stuff. They have decent standing for non champion wonder set ups as well

Not that I’ll ever compete with a champ, but 1-2 pieces.. I’ve beaten lol

[rocky knoll]

most generic blaststs sets that exist lol

[eager mortar]

Your inf stands out

[rocky knoll]

Yeah since that account is an alt I just dumped all in on one set

So it can be used for rallies despite being outdated

Before astra and artifacts I just had 2 accounts with fairly similar stats one just had a couple more champ pieces and castle stars

But now one only can run inf rallies while other I kept at a point where all 3 sets work well

[eager mortar]

I could never keep up with more than 1 account… so my main… that’s it lmao

It’s all in one.. was a trap.. now a low end lead

Lol

[rocky knoll]

Well I have 3 that I actively play on and keep spending on

One filler and 2 leads

[rocky knoll]

Inf on this one is 1153 tho so it packs a bit of a punch

[eager mortar]

I’ll be happy when I get to 1k on each of my blasts.. I won’t be able to deliver the most miraculous hit.. but if I bamboozle someone.. or if they get caught out of gear and offline.. it’ll hurt lol

Never been a fan of infantry if I’m being honest.. you need a ton of att and hp before it becomes stupid effective. They’re just too slow for me lol

[rocky knoll]

Well on that account due to all the champ jewels and fact that both beasthelm and champ boots give travel speed that inf is zooming pretty fast

[eager mortar]

True, I just feel like infantry took the most work to be effective is all

I noticed my inf Improve the moment the terror shield went myth though. Probably because of the boost in hp

[rocky knoll]

Cav is easiest to get to the point you can use it but than the hardest to actually make proper good

Inf is pretty easy to push up if you're willing to get the boots from champ

[eager mortar]

Well cav is the most readily available early on, then range.. I like range lol

[rocky knoll]

I don't like range cuz way too many people in my guild have good range sets so I just stand back when range rallies come around lol

[eager mortar]

Lol! Range hits hard though, yeah it’s a common set for range. But I feel like it’s underutilized, and gets a bad rep lol.

Inf/cav are the most popular by far

[rocky knoll]

Well my guild is unusual in that regard cuz 2 of the most active leads in mine have range sets that are about 100% atk above all their other sets

So our range is constantly being murdered on fury rallies

[eager mortar]

Lol I imagine you guys are always burning though.. range is what people generally least expect during fury rallies. Usually inf or mix

[rocky knoll]

I think we had more rallies get their buffers wiped by garrison and do 800k DMG than actual good hits

[eager mortar]

That’s why you send in r phal when online lol, buffers remain intact until the wall falls

[rocky knoll]

Cuz one greedy dumass refuses to do range phal

[eager mortar]

Lmao

It’s either r phal, r wedge, or you can send like a 190 if they absolutely refuse to use a formation other than inf wedge/cav wedge

[honest sluice]

I have 2 gold jewels in my set should I unjewel them and break them into 4 purple Jewels to be used in my set ?

[shell dock]

Yes

3 purples 4 blues will be better if you have the space though

[mortal flume]

He said 2 gold jewels so it will be 8 which is enough to fill the spaces at least one everywhere

[shell dock]

He didn’t say if they were the same kind of jewel

[mortal flume]

He didn't said if they are atk jewels

[shell dock]

Neither did I

[mortal flume]

He might have trap atk jewels

[honest sluice]

They are atk jewels of inf and cav

[shell dock]

So split into 3 purples and 4 blue for better stats if you have the space

[honest sluice]

Okay thanks for advice

[shrewd oak]

Who is better for mix?

Im lvl 58 for now, they will be purple

[slate rock]

Fists are better for mix if compared to codex.
On the other hand.
Mits are better than fits for mix lol

[shrewd oak]

Ive no chance mits are blue for now lol

[slate rock]

I see.
Use fists for now then switch over to mits once they're surpassing fists in army hp

[shrewd oak]

Yep, thanks

[slate rock]

You're welcome

[spiral gust]

1320140163
My wishing I have good mathic gear and good troops and war war and war in happy life I don't like shield

[pearl fossil]

zombie no. 343 strikes again

[toxic dock]

You recognise him in 2 different sides 😅

[pearl fossil]

they posted their igg in #💬┊general as well

[toxic dock]

Yes I saw it 😅

[pearl fossil]

i just recognised the colours in the pfp and checked. same guy

adhd is weird sometimes

[slate rock]

[toxic dock]

He was just join the server and Roaming all over

[pearl fossil]

a lot of zombies do

[toxic dock]

For free stuff or something maybe

[pearl fossil]

i had someone ask me thing morning why they didnt get any reward from the thanksgiving event yet

[toxic dock]

Lots of work for you 😅

[pearl fossil]

eh, am used to it

fun thing is when you can call them dumb and stupid in the same sentence without them knowing and they say thank you afterwards

[toxic dock]

[pearl fossil]

sharp as a marble, usefull as a shoe, twice as dense as a black hole and half as bright, that kind of stuff

[toxic dock]

[feral moth]

Is codex useful for anything else other than that? Sorry for asking

[glass ingot]

The codex v. mitts is a long debate.

Codex defo best item for Range blasts outside of champ set.

[shell dock]

It’s mitts

Codex for rng blasts

[slate rock]

I use codex in my range blast and 055 gear
You can use it mix too if you want to balance cav stats
But I'd rather have tassets for cavalry and mits for off -hand(army hp)

Ask questions, that's how you increase your knowledge. Don't be sorry for that

[feral moth]

okay, thank you <3

[feral moth]

Ah, thank you, I didnt want to interrupt you minding your own business :D

[slate rock]

It's fine, I reply whenever I'm not busy.
If I'm busy, I'll simply ignore the notification

[glass ingot]

Did I say it otherwise? Lol

[shell dock]

You actually didn’t answer

[glass ingot]

I just said it's a long debate. Some ppl prefer attack stats. Some ppl prefer hp. I myself prefer Army HP so I use mitts too.

[glass ingot]

Because there is no definite answer to this.

[shell dock]

There is

[glass ingot]

Ppl are divided in opinions.

[shell dock]

It’s mitts

[glass ingot]

Yes you prefer that so you saying so.

So what's better for Legs Talons or Tassets?

[flat gate]

Epic champ stride, epic tassets or epic talons?

[broken lagoon]

Hardrox boot

[flat gate]

[shell dock]

Well you can’t go and compare the two like you did codex and mitts as mitts give army hp but codex never did, however with those 2 both give army hp, talons being 21 and tassets being 14, now you would take talons if you wanted to last longer in battle, but you would take tassets if you wanted to kill the enemy quicker. So you can’t compare the two like you did codex and mitts

[glass ingot]

How convenient lol

[shell dock]

Go compare some other pieces

I still gave an answer though

[next otter]

I always say, traps: talons. Others: tassets. Keep it simple.

[vague narwhal]

@shell dock lol how about bon appetite cup and champ accessory which gives inf boost

[rich junco]

I didn’t realise it was a ‘long debate’

I thought it was common knowledge that it was mitts

[rich junco]

It’s been tested many times by many people, mitts are better. That’s why you see even emperor accounts still using mitts, but not Codex

[abstract blade]

https://tenor.com/view/cavemanspongebob-caveman-spongebob-react-whatreact-gif-20206670

[astral perch]

what heros are good to put on your wall?

[shell dock]

This has already been tested I can send you the video if you wish

[next otter]

F2p: rose, bombin, demon, snow, bunny.
P2p I don't remember the names lol

[mild python]

Heroes with army attack and army hp for p2p

Get Boomeister to gold, passively increase army attack by 10% without deploying him

[deep rover]

wish we had a heroes channel

[next otter]

I know and have those. The other guy was asking those

[vague narwhal]

@shell dock if you have the video can you send me please

[next otter]

Champ pieces have an edge mainly cuz it gives atk as well as hp.

[honest sluice]

Shouldn't oath keeper be used instead of Bunny , I have seen some traps using it

[mortal flume]

You can use it but you will have than a 221 hero lineup instead of 122

[honest sluice]

So which is better bunny or oath keeper ?

[mortal flume]

I use a 212 hero lineup

[honest sluice]

Which is ?

[mortal flume]

With bunny and oath keeper without snow qeen

[honest sluice]

So heavy inf and cav ?

[mortal flume]

Yes

But I sometimes change it because I like to be in inf wedge

[shell dock]

Check pm

[shell dock]

Champ comes on top rather then cup

you take less losses and deal more damage

[next otter]

That's what I said atk+hp

[ember otter]

terror shield vs champion armor? ( mythic all )

which is better for Inf

[shell dock]

Terror shield

Ew

Never make the champ inf chest piece

That should be the last piece you ever make

[cosmic knot]

Isn't that better than terror? (Without looking at price) Cuz champ give more atk

[shell dock]

Ew

So you’d rather gain 7% attack but lose 35% hp?

[cosmic knot]

There is also 49% def

[shell dock]

Ew.

How could you suggest def over hp

[mild python]

Does def do anything?

[shell dock]

Army atk- army hp-army def

Def always last

[patent silo]

its mix between atk and hp, but still one of them is btr

def dec the dmg for u and ur enemy

[tribal cliff]

I am building a mix set for a trap acc. I just got a blue cup, should I spend my remaining 400+ luck tokens to get like halfway to purple or less or should I keep it and spend it on a different rotation for a different piece?

[shell dock]

Show your gear

[patent silo]

btw, when I make l60 gears mix, what is the max diff that should be between the types, like diff between inf and rng inf and cav, etc.

[shell dock]

Cav will always usually be lowest

10-20% between doesn’t hurt

[patent silo]

oh, k then, I wanted to see from now what is the gears that I need to stop working on and work on what instead to balance the stats and there is no big diff between stats

ty

[tribal cliff]

Bumblehelm
Firewall plate
Dragons talon
Frost wing Greatsword
Winter mits
Ambrosial cup
Blight ring
Burning scroll

[tribal cliff]

^

[patent silo]

you can make the ring blue or only green?

[tribal cliff]

Just green and 0/7 to blue

[patent silo]

you shouldn't work on parka and the shoes of snow beast, you was going to have blue mitts now or close to it

[tribal cliff]

That happened long ago when I didn't know how the game worked. I realized later that is shouldn't have done it.

[patent silo]

stop upgrading the bon helmet, it take from cup rares

[tribal cliff]

Same answer for that.

[patent silo]

yup, just saying incase, or for who read the chat

others gears are good, just work on this, and from gears, I think purple cup will be hard a bit on you, btr to go for another cup

[tribal cliff]

You mean make a second blue and drop the scroll or the ring?

[patent silo]

wait, right you working on one only

[shell dock]

Dismantle parka

Maybe get lucky with bells

I’ve done it with champ before

[patent silo]

work on another gear, the purple cup will be hard

[shell dock]

I’d save your tokens for bumble helm

[patent silo]

the shoes don't give bells too?

[shell dock]

No

[patent silo]

wait, when I get l60, I can dismantle the helm too, sometimes my problem is unrares lol

[shell dock]

Huh

[patent silo]

yeah, will be btr for bumble helm @tribal cliff

[patent silo]

sorry, chosed wrong msg

[tribal cliff]

Ok imma keep the tokens then. If I make a second blue cap which should I remove? The ring or the scroll?

[shell dock]

Depends on the level of each

If grey scroll, but green ring replace scroll

[patent silo]

btr to wait until you get l60 or away of it with small amount

[tribal cliff]

Aight, thanks.

[livid totem]

guys what shoold i forge?

im dump when it comes to forging

[gusty salmon]

Champ gear, sell your soul and kidneys to IGG.

[livid totem]

id even give them my balls

[abstract blade]

you are dumb when it comes to forging and when it comes to grammar

gottem

[timber vessel]

hmm

[cinder phoenix]

Gear for level 55

[glossy fulcrum]

Hello

I have a question
I currently have 1 purple cup - should I make it to gold or make another purple cup?

[upper viper]

Make it gold

[glossy fulcrum]

Okay Thank you for helping me!!!

[upper viper]

If you are f2p then make one cup at a time. I personally made one gold then made one purple

[lavish pebble]

is that good ?

[glossy fulcrum]

Nice gear!!!

[lavish pebble]

thanks ^^

[upper viper]

That's the same as mine other than the helmet is bumble helm

[lavish pebble]

i have purple helm

needed pieces lol

[glossy fulcrum]

How did you get so many gold jewels?

[upper viper]

Bumble helm is more accessible for me I nearly have it mythic

[glossy fulcrum]

Amazing!!

[upper viper]

It will be when I make it all golden

[glossy fulcrum]

You got this!!

[upper viper]

The familiar that gives 3 jewels every so many days. And by playing a long time

[patent silo]

yeah good gears, try to get bumble helm, if you balanced stats by the beast helm so stay with it

[buoyant beacon]

Can you give gift guys

[abstract blade]

nice gems

[patent silo]

I discovered that I have a problem now

I will make only 2 cups

what should I put instead of 3rd in rng blast?

[dry laurel]

Id say blight ring

[tardy lark]

blight ring is a good shout

[shell dock]

Ring

+12 Astra on it

[patent silo]

k, thank you all

[lavish pebble]

okay thx

[quaint cedar]

the boots and the off hand 💀

[patent silo]

accessories too lol

[quaint cedar]

wdym accessories?

[patent silo]

drums

[quaint cedar]

it's not too bad. the gawrilla accessory isn't easy to make mythic

[patent silo]

didn't noticed that it is cav blast xD

[shell dock]

Drums good as they maxed Astra

Drums cheapest to max

[quaint cedar]

XD

jewels are meh and really question if some of his cav blast pieces are real or fake XD

[patent silo]

but offhand is from usual gears

[shell dock]

Jewels certainly need improvement lol

[quaint cedar]

well, the offhand wouldn't be my first choice XD

[shell dock]

Has to be a new kd

[quaint cedar]

cmon, you can't tell me that he has a mythic helm and firewall but not a mythic fist

[shell dock]

I check after this

1081

[rocky knoll]

I don't have fist mythic with what you mentioned mythic

[rocky knoll]

actual in use cav gear is this if I'm forced to send cav for showdown

[quaint cedar]

wait what. You must have gone for mythic talons first, right?

[rocky knoll]

yes since cav gear is useless

so did mix gear pieces

[spiral anvil]

Gib snowbeast bells

Gold mitts 🫤

[mortal flume]

Money >> brain

[quaint cedar]

well, that's a very good excuse lol

[maiden jetty]

Comparison

[sour pendant]

Not bad

[short raptor]

@sour pendant

[abstract blade]

@sour pendant

[maiden jetty]

@sour pendant

[patent silo]

suqma, u r arbian?

[sour pendant]

Bro why am I being tagged

[maiden jetty]

No

What made you think that

[patent silo]

I saw you in the arabian server of the game

[maiden jetty]

I’m in every server

[abstract blade]

I'm in your walls

[maiden jetty]

And the only one I somewhat understand is the Spanish server

[abstract blade]

https://tenor.com/view/i-live-in-your-walls-i-know-where-you-live-meme-cat-caption-gif-25921313

[maiden jetty]

Me too

[abstract blade]

https://tenor.com/view/pepe-salam-gif-20225858

[abstract blade]

I've seen that you didn't wash your hands after going to thr bathroom

You nasty af

[maiden jetty]

So what your saying is you broke into my school and I should call the police

[abstract blade]

Maybe

[icy ingot]

Is this the place where people show off gear?

[patent silo]

yup

green rowdy resolve or green axe for gawrilla?

[icy ingot]

Personally, I'd go for the axe. Its the best non-champ option.

[patent silo]

and green cane or green lantern?
have blue lash and green call of deep

[icy ingot]

Not to mention 12* astra fear drums can be got reasonably cheap and are fairly comparable to mythic resolves (talking about the long term).

[icy ingot]

Depends. Both are good. I went for the lantern personally as I'd never go champ route for off-hands.

The cane does make a good replacement for champ too though.

[patent silo]

I can't go for any champ though

[icy ingot]

But generally, lash / saw are great inf main hands.

I actually went for the saw on my main's blasts, mainly because I wanted to save seeds for terror shield.

[rocky knoll]

a fellow inf enjoyer

[icy ingot]

Garg set can be focused on single though, as that's actually really good value

[rocky knoll]

[icy ingot]

Yeah, its not as good as my cav set, but I'm slowly plodding away at it. My monthly budget is tiny though I imagine it'll be sometime mid / late next year when stuff actually gets finished lmao.

[rocky knoll]

I went for cane on my main and hate it

astra on it is expensive so it's sitting at +3 and that makes it comparable to +12 lash I made on alt

[icy ingot]

That's actually kind of the reason why I like the saw, those seeds are so precious, I don't wanna eat them.

Its a tiny bit weaker, but not enough that its noticable

Cheap to astra too

Plus it can be used for siege blast memes lmao

[rocky knoll]

alt is getting 85 atk 30 def 15 hp jeweled vs mains 77,45 atk 29,6 hp 31,9 def

[rocky knoll]

lash same price astras

but better stats

[icy ingot]

True, but its almost 5 mythic seeds to make from scratch.

[rocky knoll]

if you skip hp jewel lash can look fancy

[icy ingot]

That's crazy expensive, I'd rather put it into artifacts. :p

[rocky knoll]

100% atk :p

[icy ingot]

Chonke

My biggest problem is the gold jewels though, I don't really care so much about blasts but they're nice to have.

[rocky knoll]

that do be an issue for a lot of people I'm happy to not have to worry about it on both accounts I care about blasts on

that's with blasts mix and random fake gear pieces jeweled on both

[icy ingot]

All my blasts are a purple jeweled mess, I hate it lmao.

Mixed is ok at least.

Also I use the same battalion for everything. xd

Who needs additional battallion might lol

[rocky knoll]

well my mix sets involve more champ and less astra

pretty much all my astra on both accounts went into blasts

[icy ingot]

I still need to get the stride completed, that'll be my only champ piece.

I honestly got that through luck more than anything. 😵‍💫

Need 3 more manes. :>

[rocky knoll]

on alt I did the inf champ bits

for sake of this

it's getting 1160 inf blast

[icy ingot]

btw, how does one actually complete the terror shield? I swear that thing is the slowest thing to work on lmao.

I still wanna do it fairly cheaply lol.

[rocky knoll]

nowadays from what I heard a lot of people buy the forge gifts for it

I bought a bunch of fortune chests and did terror lab and a lot of terror mh for mine

but it was before the forge gifts came out so that might be better now

[icy ingot]

It does seem like the cheapest way tbh.

Maybe when I'm not working on heroes (they're currently stealing like 4000 diamonds a month) I'll put some money towards that.

[rocky knoll]

this was pretty nice for gems as well which was a good reason to do it since bunnies are expensive

[icy ingot]

I don't rally much stuff, my account more of a trap than it is a lead; bunnies not too big an issue. :>

[rocky knoll]

you sitting at around 1b if I remember correctly right ?

[icy ingot]

Yeah.

[rocky knoll]

with fat comp if you got good base stats that's fun might to get capped on something and than take some counter rallies while LL 😄

[icy ingot]

I've actually been rallied a few times whilst in mixed set, people genuinely seem to think i'm a minilead.

Can't say I blame them tbh.

[rocky knoll]

tbh some people also just don't care

[icy ingot]

yeah lol

[rocky knoll]

I've set on 8pc champ accounts with my guild before

that were 2b+

[icy ingot]

[rocky knoll]

cuz we got bored and had bunnies to burn

[icy ingot]

My guild would be broke in 3 seconds if we did that lmao

titan guilds be scary

[rocky knoll]

my guild isn't even a titan guild we're just stupid

[icy ingot]

[rocky knoll]

we moved into kd wednesday and I rebuilt 1,8m each t4 I have this left now

[icy ingot]

o.o

[rocky knoll]

we did go to baron tho

so part of it is from sniping with 055/208 there

[icy ingot]

Tbh I couldn't afford those kinds of losses, I got enough problems affording heroes every month.

[rocky knoll]

well I'm not rebuilding till next baron cycle

so no more cav rallies from me xD

[icy ingot]

I seriously hope IGG doesn't add another passive stats hero anytime soon because I'll actually cry lmao

[rocky knoll]

I stopped working on them I'd rather get lunite and artifacts

[icy ingot]

I just got shield maiden / sand sage done recently and was really happy with it.

[patent silo]

yeah, this baron was war battle

[rocky knoll]

what baron was "this baron" ?

[patent silo]

who won in it?

[icy ingot]

[rocky knoll]

my baron was 6 guild alliance occupying all top 10 spots

while my guild and 3 others were slamming rallies into their pushes to get some kills

[patent silo]

yes, ahmed9, liubei, okber

[rocky knoll]

well that wasn't my baron so I dunno

[icy ingot]

Tbh I don't really pay attention to baron, my guild is too small and its often when I'm asleep. I do like screwing around in there when I get the chance though. 🙂

[patent silo]

yeah, I forgot this bothering districts

[rocky knoll]

I like it when there's competition and we can come do some rallies amidst the chaos, we merge with an ally for it so only people who want to get some points go

[icy ingot]

Probably the best thing though was when I joined a chalice that was fairly empty and actually got one of the prizes from some 1 troops onto the fort.

😄

1 troop profits ftw lol

[rocky knoll]

we got 2 leads that can do some dmg to baron pushes so we just run 70/30 rallies into them and pull asap to not get hit so no t5 loses

fun 4h sitting on call and trying to snipe 2nd hits lol

last baron we had the 60 bless guy run rallies on main fort and the 110 bless go around side forts hitting them whenever someone was willing to play ball

[icy ingot]

Tbh my only problem with emp / baron is I wish there was different tiering to the events. Like lightweight, medium, heavyweight tbh. I guess I'm asking too much from a mobile game that profits from it, but I'd love a lightweight baron that I could actually compete in lmao.

[rocky knoll]

would be hard to enforce tbh

[icy ingot]

True, but it could actually earn IGG more money if smaller players were fighting their own and losing troops too. 😛

Obviously have different rewards for it though.

[rocky knoll]

Getting a way to divide into those categories feels near impossible tho

If might based than there's plenty full +12 mini leads

[icy ingot]

It'd have to be stat based.

An easy way to do it would have tiers at every 100-200% stats, they'd have to figure out a way to average out players, though that's not impossible.

[rocky knoll]

So I take out jewels from my gear

Get qualified for lower slot

Put jewels back in

[icy ingot]

You could just have it so you get disqualified if you go in with over. 😛

[rocky knoll]

Still based on what stats

Cuz my friends account can beat me on a fort in mh gear Vs my mix gear cuz he has blessed wonder artifacts

[icy ingot]

Its pretty simple, IGG knows the ratio of atk / hp / def stats as well as other values. They could just have each account have a cumulative value of "strength" (not might) that's generated based on averages of all the stats. It'd be a pretty complex mathematical formula, but there's math nerds that know how to do that.

[rocky knoll]

I'm willing to bet igg don't know the ratio

[icy ingot]

[rocky knoll]

Since it changes dynamically based off of total amounts

It honestly doesn't seem feasible and would heavily punish smartly built accounts

Since you could be getting paired against a dumass spending 5k a month with a 400$ a month account and that dude is just gonna go pure T5 all event cuz he's 12,5x your budget

I know my filler I've been running on 28$ a month for last 4 years has better stats than one of my guildmates who according to the membership thing spent 25k in last 365 days

[icy ingot]

Meh. I guess I didn't think about the troops that could be sent, it honestly sucks the number of advantages that can go unnoticed lmao.

I've never even unlocked the membership, IGG doesn't consider me worthy. 😭

[rocky knoll]

I only have it on my main

Got it when I splurged and made 4 champ pieces in 3 months last year

[icy ingot]

I'll forever be an "associate" I reckon.

Still tho 25k a year? On what omg

If I spent that much I'd wanna be full champ lol

[rocky knoll]

On T5 speeds and lunite mainly cuz he likes to send full t5

That account doesn't even have full mythic mix gear

[icy ingot]

😵‍💫

I don't even have T5... now I'm thinking I made the right choice.

[rocky knoll]

Also you wouldn't be full champ with only that

[icy ingot]

Still a good teamplayer I guess... lol.

[rocky knoll]

I got diamond membership from making 4 pieces none of them accessories

[patent silo]

The only thing I have in champ is the boots

It's pretty cheap to get boots on gold

[rocky knoll]

If you mainly do it with those fancy 5/6$ event packs yeah

[icy ingot]

Depends on budget, I got gold boots but only through the $5 packs.

Was super lucky tbh.

[rocky knoll]

When you start doing full runs of rising champ stuff starts getting expensive especially when you have shit luck and get 2 gold mane drops out of 15k chests

[patent silo]

Yeah I yeah I always buy big expensive pack when there in buy 1 get 1 offer

[icy ingot]

Meh. I wish. I usually buy tokens or a hero pack and leave it at that.

[patent silo]

Btw how can I get good jewel I only have rare jewels

I don't know because I am a new player

[rocky knoll]

Crown jewels pack or you get pact 4 and hoarder fam + buy jewel chests with guildcoins

[patent silo]

Oh thanks dude

[icy ingot]

I wish I could get hoarder without the might of pact 4 research. I could use it so much for blasts. 😦

[rocky knoll]

Downsides of being a trap

I couldn't have a main account as a trap

Even an alt didn't last long for me and I turned it into a filler lol

[patent silo]

I am not a trap just want to become a mini lead

[icy ingot]

hehe, all my accounts are. I'm addicted to low might lmao.

[patent silo]

It feels heartbreak when a trap gets burned

Lol

[icy ingot]

Meh. I haven't been burned in around 3-4 years. I'd actually be happy.

[rocky knoll]

This acc used to be a trap

[rocky knoll]

Now I just turned it into a fat filler

Has storm fox and songstress on wall as well + purple chronicler on the way to gold

[patent silo]

I opened chest while talking to you guys and got this

[icy ingot]

Fat filler or not, Its very nice regardless, I see 1.5b might burns all the time, no chance of that thing burning.

[rocky knoll]

For research it has subsidies , sigils and T5 (all of those maxed) on top of the standard mh+T4+pact 4 , 3 fam slots

Has 220 sigils too

[patent silo]

Ur account has atleast 50M troops impossible to burn

[rocky knoll]

Usually I leave it in either of these 2 sets so it still gets rallied about once a month

[icy ingot]

And it'd be easy caps even in them sets. ;p

[patent silo]

Haha rally leads always fell for those gears

[icy ingot]

Just swap formation and profit lol

[rocky knoll]

Yep

Last kingdom it even got soloed

[icy ingot]

I sit in speed gear / mh gear to cap these days

Its more fun lmao

[icy ingot]

[rocky knoll]

Gave guildmate lead and than he got burned by a mix titan rally

[icy ingot]

He didn't even pop size boost what xD

[rocky knoll]

And this guy thought I was a dead castle

And tried to grab lead

[icy ingot]

omfg

[rocky knoll]

They tried a rescue rally after a couple hours and it got capped too

Got some speeds for next rebuild from the guy that rallied lol

[icy ingot]

You can't make that up lmao, must've thought he was a spartan out of 300

[patent silo]

Lol

I am level 59 is there any way to get xp faster

To reach level 60

[icy ingot]

Accept turf quests, but pls don't do that.

[rocky knoll]

Monster hunting or hero stages or getting hit

Hero stages are a nice P2P way to do it

Since you can just gem hearts

[patent silo]

And if I hurt someone will get xp

[icy ingot]

Yes.

Troops killed = xp.

[patent silo]

Ohhk thankyou guys
My guildmates are also new to the game that's why they also don't know anything about it

[icy ingot]

I still want IGG to do an update where we can hide turf quests. Its one of my most wanted features.

I accepted one by accident the other day and I was so mad with myself lmao, I haven't done that in like a year.

[patent silo]

I have heard I gg is bringing a shield popper update

[rocky knoll]

Yeah that's been a meme for like 4 years at this point lol

[icy ingot]

IGG needs to add Pact 6 familiar with barracks dismiss power.

Access other player account and dismiss troops... as well as permanent execution familiar.

[patent silo]

More money for igg

[patent silo]

Haha I would quit the game if that happens xd

[icy ingot]

"Ahh, that's a nice gold lore weaver you have, shame if I was to delete it."

[patent silo]

I have more weaver on purple

Got 9 medals of shape shifter from exchange extravaganza

[icy ingot]

I'd like to get those chests but always go for astra, scrolls and yellow orbs instead lmao.

[patent silo]

Lamao

The people in my kingdom are so foolish that they sometimes carp dns

[icy ingot]

That's depressing.

[patent silo]

Yeah total fools

Nice chat dude see ya soon

[icy ingot]

Laters dude. Have a good one. :>

[toxic dock]

Calm down dude i didn't even max pact4,3,2 you want p6 lol

[icy ingot]

introducing pact 7 which allows you to dismantle enemy gear and kill enemy familiars so they have to buy the packs / merge the pacts again. 😄

[hardy edge]

wtf

me who dont have a good gear

being solot with 1 troop

we introducing p8 that can reset an enemy complettly

@icy ingot

[mild python]

what hero comp and familiar comp should i have in mixed battalion?
I am f2p and my mixed stats are 410% attack, i mainly have this for Dragon Arena

[hardy edge]

army atk

[mild python]

Let me log in to screenshot

[hardy edge]

im mean like rose Knight and bomber

[mild python]

Each give 20% army attack

I dont like goblin because he doesn't have range hp or army hp

[hardy edge]

so 40%

[dry laurel]

i would say watcher, rose and goblin and then you can take one inf and one range because rose also has cav hp

[mild python]

@shell dock what do you think? ^

[shell dock]

I’d need to see your gears as well

There’s many comps for wow

[icy ingot]

If you're doing 221 hero ratio you don't want to be using tracker, the idea of the 2nd ranged hero is to increase your hp for ranged, as well as push 2 ranged squads forward so it'd be better as black crow for now.
Also you need gryphon assuming you're f2p, the stacking fams also aren't the best for wonder setups, you'd honestly be better off with Magus in there for range phalanx takes.

Effectively most wonder takes / hits live and die by the retargets, so having your ranged surviving longer gives you a better chance to get a good retarget assuming a similar opponent.

Personally if I was you, in your current situation, i'd keep the rest of the heroes the same, but:
Swap Tracker with Crow.
Gremlin for Gryphon, Trickstar stays, Magus replace goblin, Aquiris stays.

And then reconfigure it based on inf front if you decide to take it in that or hit with that.

[mild python]

I dont have magus but i do have tempestite.

Which fam comp is better for defense in wow or DA? @icy ingot

First pic is with trickster
Second pic i replaced Trickstar with evil weevil

[icy ingot]

Hmmm, trickstar is super important, especially if you're doing any kind of ranged front defence, so I'd prioritise it.

as f2p stacking fams are one of your best options, but you only want it for your frontline.

I would suggest slowly plodding away with Magus though with the free red orbs that you get, it makes a solid upgrade generally esp for f2p.

Weevil is amazing on the wall, but I find it doesn't have such a big impact on pvp.

Aquiris though does, it's actually more powerful than weevil in testing.

I'd go with the left screenshot for now. 🙂

[mild python]

Ok thank you

[icy ingot]

No problem. My account is a weird party trap / minilead thing with only 2.9m wonder size (just the wonder heroes gold) so whilst I'm no baron lead player, I had to get creative in how I attack people especially with wonders. It gets pretty challenging when you've only got 3 fam slots and you're attacking full mythic guys with near max research lol. 🙂

You can get away with quite a lot as f2p with the right setups. 😛

[eager mortar]

I like using stackers, they can beat superior stat players and ones with more P5s if they’re applied correctly.

These are current stats..

30 castle stars as of today, nothing crazy

And this is an opponent I beat back in may, with 2 stackers in my set up. Sure.. I had more troops. But my stats were way lower back then.

And he had a +100% AR advantage.

[icy ingot]

Chances are the second stacker wouldn't have done anything tho, or only popped once. You're better off with another fam. :p
I'm not saying that you shouldn't use them, but generally the 2nd stacker is more or less redundant compared to another familiar due to the time elapsed during the battle and how long it takes for it to actually activate.

Of course, if you're using it to swap front, sure, it can work then, but at the same time its still not ideal.

[eager mortar]

It works if you’re outmatched by a statistically superior opponent, that will chew through more than one front. And that’s how I have it set up.

[icy ingot]

Tbh though if you're against that you should be pulling, since its unfeasible. :p

[eager mortar]

It’s not because I plan to lose that many troops, it’s a fail safe in case I do come across someone that could.

[icy ingot]

Its best to prepare for optimal rather than "i'm gonna get boned by this guy" lol. 😛

[eager mortar]

Well you’ve seen my best report, let’s see yours

[icy ingot]

My account is a freakshow, so give me a minute, but I'll give best context I can lol.

[eager mortar]

Lol no worries, for context. I’m a rally trap in transition to lead for my guild. I’m not a true lead by any means, but as a perfectionist rally trap in the past, mix stats were always what I prioritized

And I have fun experimenting with my comps, making do with what I have.

[icy ingot]

This is the report, gotta add some screens for extra context tho.

[eager mortar]

Nice one, cav phal

[icy ingot]

Its basically a micro-lead / party trap, I have basically no research aside from T4 or counters which is rough.

I'm not bothered about hiding name since everyone knows I go by same name ingame lol xd

The guy who I hit was maxed research / mythic set from what I know, but I can only fill up to 2.9m rip.

[eager mortar]

Well all things considered, you did well

[icy ingot]

My account is really weird tbh, the gear is great but not having research, you can feel it.

[eager mortar]

Yeah, I gave up the trapping when I added the research in lol

[icy ingot]

I have an alt with debuffs and even with lower stats it feels so strong lol.

[eager mortar]

Lucky to even get 1 rally these days, and titans exist in my kingdoms. Though, you could argue if they’re really titans if they lack the war mentality

All for show, most of them anyway

[icy ingot]

Yep. I run a guild so though I can handle titan kingdoms, most of my guildmates can't so well.

I usually keep my guild far away from those lol.

Always good when I get a titan k matchup in kvk though. 🙂

[eager mortar]

Lol it was worse before, now it’s a semi Titan kd, only 5 guilds over 100b.

And maybe 2 true titans, one is a chicken, the other just doesn’t like me. Lots of good leads though

[icy ingot]

Tbh I miss the days of the massive parties, rarely ever seen them.

Best KvK I ever had I had 12 rallies set on me at once, that was incredible ngl.

[eager mortar]

I’ve never done a massive party tbh

13 is my record, but I didn’t take it all. My comp wouldn’t have withstood it. I took one on the migration, then they reset a triple when I got back.

[eager mortar]

Mine was black mamba, yours?

[icy ingot]

Still, even taking multiple is an impressive accomplishment tbh.

I'm not sure, it was some Japanese at beginning of this year, KXD and some others.

[eager mortar]

Hm.. maybe XJR and company then. 1RP

[icy ingot]

Though idk what happened to KXD now, their guild looks almost like a shell lol

[eager mortar]

You ever face off on LH quads?

[icy ingot]

I've actually had LH take out my inf on purpose earlier this year. :>

I was too fat to migrate, had a bigger comp than I have now, but I wanted to be smaller. 😦

[eager mortar]

Their multi rallies are a terror, if you don’t have the party style comp.

They have the most organized set and carp coordination I’ve ever seen. Almost like someone’s waiting for you to counter a rally so they can announce to carp the other.

[icy ingot]

I actually have some of the reports left still lmao

I was deliberately out of gear / no heroes on the wall.

[eager mortar]

Inf front trap?

[icy ingot]

Noooo.

Its just the easier front to zero in order to lose might.

[eager mortar]

I see I see

[icy ingot]

Tbh I had like 4 scrolls, but the kingdom I wanted was 7-8? iirc.

So I figured if I just let them zero my inf it'd only cost me 1 scroll.

I didn't mind a rebuild and some lost might lol. 🙂

Some people would think that's crazy, but meh, I'm pretty pleased with how I've rebuilt.

Was like 1.4b almost before.

[eager mortar]

Seems like it was only t1/t2 losses. Might drop is low

If I drop troops, I could be around 1.4 lol

[icy ingot]

When they started hitting the T4 they was getting a lot less kills, but the might drop was slightly higher lol

[eager mortar]

Of course, simply due to the fact that t4 are more durable

[icy ingot]

Tbh though I thought they'd do massive damage considering I was out of gear, it kinda felt good. :>

Castle stars are worth the investment imo; though it is kinda weird to have a trap with them.

[eager mortar]

You need an emperors counter to do that kind of damage lol

Castle stars are good because it boosts your stats at the base level

[icy ingot]

lol, I think I found some of the reports of the party, though not all of them. 😦

[dry laurel]

what is the best way to get monster jewels?

[uneven burrow]

Buy packs.

[dry laurel]

what packs?

[abstract blade]

All of them

Sell your house

And buy all packs

[dry laurel]

good idea who needs a house when you got a castle

[abstract blade]

Real

And you can live in a cardboard box anyway,who cares

https://tenor.com/view/squidward-gif-26095594

[mortal flume]

The packs that has the jewel sack

You will get most of the times monster jewels don't even think of better jewels ( champ jewels )

Or buy packs that has the monster chest and try get it that way

[dry laurel]

ok thanks

[quick jay]

[tidal raft]

You can just live in your guildmates castle by garrisoning there your leader

[tidal raft]

Is there a way to get monster jewels for free

[mortal flume]

Hunt monsters

[tidal raft]

wait which one gives

[next otter]

Whichever monster jewel you need

[tidal raft]

any but atleast it boosts monster hunt

[patent silo]

there is some monsters give jewels with their names

like saberfang, gargantua, etc. have jewels with their names, every jewel give specific stat, not a lot, but wirth it

[tidal raft]

does one give monster hunt

which monster gives monster hunt help material

[shell dock]

You need the hunting packs

Let me show you

[tidal raft]

is there free

[shell dock]

No

You can get it from some events in news or guildfest though

[tidal raft]

is it very hard in guild fest

or easy to get like which tier normally

@shell dock

[shell dock]

Random

[patent silo]

12 when I was c24

since I had been 25 from 3 gf, no monstorous chests for me

[tidal raft]

sadly my guild does gf bad

and monster hunting bad

though soon good players will come and we do better

[tidal raft]

i have 20 monstrous chests but i never knew what they do

i never cared about gear until now

is there a artifact that boosts monster hunting @patent silo

@patent silo

[patent silo]

yup, but artiacts come with luck and little spending for specific ones

you can filter them, don't remember from where there

[tidal raft]

which ones

which gear gives mosnter boost

[patent silo]

hunting gears

you will find it in event gears in the workshop

[tidal raft]

i got hunting mace

but common only i can afford

[patent silo]

you need hundreds of chests, you need to wait

[tidal raft]

i always got slayer chests and mosnter chests in gf

but i never chose i never knew what they do

[next otter]

Now you know. Hunting is pretty much a necessary if you ask me. Any good guild will need x amount of monsters+ they give matterials to upgrade gear.

If someone buys the monster hunting pack during 1+1 coupon for like 3 times, they can get blue purple set pretty easy

[patent silo]

Can anyone recommend me a good guild where hunting is 6,7 lvl 2 daily?

I did ask in find guild

Still no response

[next otter]

Any guild over 70b might should be asking that.

What's your might tho

[patent silo]

900m

[tidal raft]

yes we get good gifts and gems someone who is from a kd 1 month than me but migrated to old kd grew much better

and someone who is only 1 month older than me is 100m might and f2p because he migrated to huge powerful guild