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Ig mod luck starting to work
100%
When they recruit mods the first question is what is your igg id , and they make the rates higher
yeah it works on alts too
My guild set a rally on him to rescue one of our members then they said solo before he shields so I did that 🤣🤣🤣 I also predicted his formation change on 2nd hit
first of all,, watcher should've been in this lineup, and another p2p army hero by now
and second,, T2s in a blind hit?
Yes, very lucky.
As Kari said at one point
“Yes because you have one p2p hero it must mean you have them all”
I don’t understand why people see one paid hero and assume they have every hero.
The free heroes are just as good as some of the paid heroes , honestly.
if anything, he's probably just not experienced to add a different army hero in there,, I saw that he has lore before so, there's that
Not unlucky enough to get 300 tales or 50
Oh so you can give them more igg id?
It's an inf blast why would he want a cav hero in there ?!
Because lore is a cav hero
you only need 4 inf squads, the army hp from lore would be better than a 10% attack boost of someone like squire
that's why F2P uses rose knight even in ranged and inf blasts
Wow
No way I thought because rose knight is a girl
And to not disrespect then
Ahhh

Now I can understand that
They just know every time a mod makes an account it automatically gets better everything


Oh so that's how Ahmed's alt was sponsored as well
in my language we call that spyware
It was seraphim's main 
Wow seraphim is thick then
With all those +12 pieces

Thats baros
Oh
Looks like baros left server
Idk
Too low kills for his account
He never shared his account info not my fault
I only saw him texting like 2 times lol
He mostly texts before warning someone 
And one of them was a pinged message
What is igg admin means ?
Are they sponsored ?
Yea they get paid a salary by igg so they sponsored
They are igg staff sp probably hired by igg so not sponsored
Their entire lives are sponsored by igg
They pay them enough to stick with this job for years
I think they stick to this job because they get maxed accounts from igg
They get payed here for doing nothing maybe a story time every 2 weeks
No
You forgot to mention that they talk with locotus
Most don't even play LM
I doubt
They might play the doom or the viking one
Seraphim said that they do not like mods deleting warns only accepting them from locotus lol
Dk
So there must be a conversation
Anyone wanna join my guild
No
Delete that and post it in #🚫┊guild-recruiting-no-chat with some information about your guild
Or you will get warned by mods
Whatever fastfox42
Are you even a fox or did your parents find you in the forest and are you even 42??
Well, judging from that response, maybe you really are 2
Like marioredstar2.0 better lol
Is that a compliment or an insult...and if you should look in the mirror and see look at yourself

Are you even mario ? Did they find you in mario cart ? Are you even 2.0 years old ?
You should look in the mirror and see look at yourself
Lmao
Lol
What the fuck did I just listen to
You live rent free in his head @pseudo bane
Woah woah woah, Cooldown bro!
The fck is this
Lol
He is really mad because I said no to him lol

He acting like I took his ice cream from him
You did something truly awful to him you are even his bio lol
Nevermind, you were his bio.
I don't see his bio lol
This is what I said to him lol
It was “something something something ever so much that they think they are the best? Yeah that’s fastfox42”
Here it is. You are immortalised in his bio.
Xddd
He got this idea from saying no to him lol
It's like he proposed to me and I said no to him lol
You took the ring and sold it to buy store bundles.
Yes
On my f2p account
I bought 3 11ks with that
And then I just slapped him on the face and ran away
I like how he says in voice message he's 20 then proceeds to do this kind of stuff lmao
Pathetic af
He's only 20?
W
?warn @bronze sonnet bot command in guild chat
deepbhagatmaur has been warned. || bot command in guild chat
I won my first ever double rally in wow (my account not built for wow fights)
That's how close apart they was aswell so had 0 time for refills 🤣
what a smart guy to bring 5 inf heroes when doing wonder wars
Second person is definitely an idiot as well though lol
Second person shouldn't even think about rallying someone with better speed gear than his actual war gear
Its like you know my speed gear gives me almost 700% mixed 🤣🤣
What the...
How high are your base stats?
No forts speed gear👀
I got champ pieces in speed gear that give me almost 100% but it's only like 2 pieces of champ in it 🙂
new vergeway stages. im stuck at stage 30. maybe it needs a review??
i tried multiple times and that is the best try so far 😦
sometimes you have to gather as many troops as possible before you hit 2x yknow?
yes of course.
Did u pass it?
Fun freebie while renewing weekly diamond pass 👀

My kd loves me thats the 5th fam attacks on Me in the past 5 minutes 🤣🤣
H0T BW us on base yesterday now this 🤣🤣

I love champ 
Nice love
I am starting to fall in love with 055. (We had 250% attack boost)
T5 difference tho
Yeah we filled good
This is my gear btw, for comparison
Now that I look back at the report, this guy only had 1 range hero
212 is very susceptible to lose against blasts.
Sweet
Gf
Hey guys
How many rallies can I defend with this comp and stats
In foy??
Make only 1 front
FAT drop
Fat drop
I got a rare assault jewel
But don't have ss
Y'all beleive me?
Yep
Do you not claim the free t4
I do I have it synced with jewels
Had to take ss of jewel drop first or it'd be gone

🔥
Yep same here t4, jewels and those t1
Others are gems and Holy Star in the same time'
And 4 hours of rss, Cargo and other gold
Show ss in inventory hehe
@outer vine
Noice

Few days back I open 100 jewel chests didn't get even one blue atk jewel

That's some next level luck 🔥🔥
Real?
Is it really that rare or are we being sarcastic here?
noodle
You hide as if someone gonna come to kill your garr. Lol
Hide better in K1378
Stole some kills


Im seeing the bag for the first time wow
🔥🔥💪💪
Minimum score to finish lab hell got me rank 2 rewards lol
Waiting for someone to post ss who forgot to exchange in Collab.
You did forget ?
🥰🥰🥰
Lucky
"pro"
that's a free blue boots for you
Skem
They were rallying 2.6m troops.
I Stole the kills
🔥🔥
1+1 on 20$ out of the blue got lucky on only new monster I wanted mats from and not scammed on champ 😄
New kingdom juicy hit
Mod luck
Where my gold manes than
You used them to make mythic champ boots
I already have boots why would I need 4th ones I'm asking about gold manes in my last 1500 champ chests 
Where my mod luck on those
Champ is still as bad as it has always been
You didn't get single gold Mane in 1.5k chest?
How low the drops are?
Got lots of purple?
No
;_;
I was usually getting ~1 gold all drops added up in 2750
Making champ pieces are expensive
Glad I'm f2p xD
Idk some people get gold mane drops all the time there was one person with 3pc mythic champ and barely anything spent on it
In this discord

Well, I got 1 gold champ jewel out of 3 champ box
Few months ago
After that I barely got anything lol
That's the more rare and nicer drop than manes
That's true
That jewel helped me increase hp in 055
Took this on alt thinking I'll get range hp jewel
This is what I got -_-
That out of the blue pack was fun despite not much champ luck tho 👀
Made this look like it might actually be worth working on lol
You're close to making it mythic
Spend more $$
It's better than drums though
Not a big upgrade so not rly worth spending extra for
oh?
Your drums at +15?
Yes
Oh I see
I'm working on it but only with 1+1s
How far you're from legendary faith?
Or was it mythic faith?
6/14 to gold lol

they should make champ packs more cheaper

it did increase sale for IGG
I see more people with champs these days
Back then only few had it
Good old days
It was fun when rising champ was 20$ only with no scaling
Was enough for people to get boots and maybe offhand to fix their inf sets (was before cottage came out)
But not enough to go 8pc
I don't know the prices and scaling range to be honest
Only way I get champ chest are through events
Especially CA
I wonder if IGG gonna do something about prices to get people to buy more champ packs
Feels like a trap that they are giving champ boxes in event
Champ chests aren't really great value so it is a bit of a trap 
Something big is coming 
35.84 atk 12.32 hp from +15 drum
35 atk 14 hp 10,5 def on no astra gawrilla 
And I don't rly have astra to put on a new gawrilla piece since I'm putting all generic on cups
New monster gears are overpowered ;_;
Generic monster astra that is, regular is being saved up for helmet
150 astra wasted
Lvl50 Vs lvl60 gear
How exactly is it wasted
Drums will be useless 
Yes and ?
So it would be better to not have cav gear for past 3 years and for next year since I will eventually have better pieces


If anything was a waste it was the cav champ boots

Garg belt would be more stats and cheaper
I'd have my gold faith already without them

How many % cav blast now
Damn you already got 4 gold da jewels
I've had 4 for ages I'm close to 5th lol
And idk I haven't checked stats in a while
2k gems 

Trial by fire

Then rally me twice in CA
1 you counter me 2nd i counter you
This was known long ago.
I only did min. to get gold in Paragon. Rest gonna do some royals and greens then.
Don't have holy stars or tokens or much energy so there is that. Lol
Yes saved 12k royals for now will get more by the time of challange
And 10k normal ones + some from gold pass
I can always buy this month's labour and log ins by then.
I want last drop of King's Strategy lol ... That blessed will be huge.
Rewards won't be anything crazy anyways likely
Unless your guild is pushing for border
Guild skin + hopefully monster astra and lunite.
We not pushing. It's total spend for rank lol
Yes lunite always nice
Yesterday tokens paid back really well 47k gems in 200 marvelous tooens
I am down under 60M.
I'm enjoying saving tokens on alt second rotation now that I'm getting enough currency from packs to full buy lunite
Hopefully pinball event give some f2p lunite too.
Thanks to those tokens now have 210k
That was the cav that hit me ?
I hate that EE just won't come.
It will give the skin
Yes need those tomes
That no one cares. I care about other items.
Me too
You don't care about castle skin ?
Me would be 300k gems or more but I have to port every rally.
No
I have no carps 
It says leader skin and no.
I don't care to spend money for castle skin if it requires that.
Leaderskin is the best thing nvestment
Me at 9x 25s left.
Yes do it
And 0 boots. Might have to do again battle prowess on coupon just for kvk.
I mean I have like 15x25 with 5 of them from battle prowess pack I got yesterday
Yeah my alt used to have a couple but since no EE I have 0
Me will get 10 more from pack if I buy. Have 1x50 and 1x 75 and that all.

Grabbed it to get 50k gems X2 from that invest event cuz was at 3 packs already after renewing supply bonus and 5+20 bogo

I am broke on these too

Damn whale
Just want 33 x 75s lol
It doesn't say lunite but hopefully at least 1 shop has it.
If they don't I will get purple boots f2p which is huge considering I started around 1 year ago
Building the champ piece
And these can't be gifted /bought with gems ;(((
Just grab what you can foe free
Normal 25% are shit value i won't buy even if they exist in gem shop
Faith
You get those from daily gifts lol
I have 100 of them only using it in da
75's you don't get easily 
They should offer wing boots in paragon and ice breaker.
25's not enough lol
75s are really good but Igg don't want to give them for us
And da as well
From the shop
I have my hero maxed with 2 more event and I don't want the jewels
I do hell ranks for them when rebuilding 
My alt has a green but has 2 purple da jewels lol
I am on my way to 4th gold jewel
I'm usually offline when our da happens it's late for me

11pm-12am is bad
Only can rank merge hell and I tried this morning but got Rank 2 lol
That's when I have dinner lol
That was travel boost 50% though.
Me not have but lack 5 medals so tomorrow's DA should do it most probs.
Ofc I have DA Gold Jewels x 2 and may be 4 to 5 purples.
Extra travel speed I like them for wonders
I use them in KvK yea or when doing rallies.
Still you beat me with big margins
It's just due to stats setup and 60% counters
next time i will use when i bw something
Imagine using bw on rally trap
Yeah good mix Vs good wonder mix not exactly same 
Well will take me atleast a yeat to come close to your level
Well Imagine not using it .....
Sparta is the number one DN lead
DA*
DN*
Sadge Sparta got demoted
I blind range rallies on DNs
He is only number 2 da lead
Exactly blind mostly i go with Range
Can just sit in gear and not lose food 
My range is 750 only so i go cav
My range weakest too but food
My range is .. Range is... I don't know
My range only 600 with bad jewels and mostly purple gear lol
Well i am not food positive so no issue of keeping food on turf
Inf blind rallies are the worst because it takes a lot of time to walk there
Skill Issue
Its exactly opposite on castles
On alt I blind with inf cuz I have no other gear
Most of the inf blind rallies do good dmg or wb
Because weak cav
You are weak
Need 2 gold da win to Get 2nd gold da jewel
We are all weak
Whatever bit inf rallies do best when going blind
Now kari might show some exceptions with his cav boozles though
Kari is the Boozle master 3000
I forgot to swap guilds and went to sleep so no da for me

Was gonna be 6th inf jewel on alt on this one
Da bus ? It's allowed here no ?
Yes it's allowed
We merge 2 guilds so kinda bus
I'm joining da bus from the last 2 da
In my Guild no one shows up so we lose every time..
In my guild the most we got was 41
And the usual is around 30 with ppl having alts in lol
I'm negotiating registering main shell so I can play alone and get my solo
New hell is coming, hope it's training.
R5 stayed in main shell too so would have 3 lead accounts and one full mythic filler with P2P heroes at 5k cup da 
Sounds like easy solo
Would you guys like hell events where you get points by spending money ???
That would be cool
No
Ocrbr would be the 1st
You would get 1k gems 1 gold jewel chest , 3 75 carpets , 12 75 winged boots for phase 3
Than it would have to be about 300$ for phase 3
Hope Iggy listen
Training hell for frosty commission need those 10 orbs
Otherwise those 75% carps would be way too cheap compared to other sources
Nah 11k for phase 2
Me broke need to save speeds

Ok I forgot you always go ape brain dead mode when discussing anything new igg could add and just make the idea impossible to happen
I know what igg would do with these kind of updates like +15 noone wanted and they put a stupid pay wall so
+12 to +15 is the same cost as a mythic faith +4 ( you build the faith and temper it )
Phase 3 would be like 175$ so a full run of something
Actually igg could do it with normal hell 1st phase 1$ 2nd phase 5$ and 3rd at 20$
Where in that is 11k phase 2 tho
Phase 3 hell rewatds may have hero selection chests or scam astralite chests
Thats not possible
Wdym ?
Getting r1 in hell will be easy for ocr

There can't be an event where not a whale is on top when it comes to spend money
Then they need give i phone 16 pro max in phase 2 hell rewards 
That's just called a news spend event

This price is fine
Yes i mean that spend event will be cheaper than 22k$ hell event
For these rewards

And maybe add 50 brilliant scam chests and 5 hero selection
It would make new kingdom accounts progression better
The idea isn't bad though buy packs to earn hell event points
Give that idea in suggestion chat fastfox
Got you
352 tasks will be easy to do for kari
Kari would have that 352 task done in the first 8 hell lol
Forgot to mention would count as 2 hell events for gf task
No
I haven't grabbed a full rotation of a pack in over a year
I'm not saying I don't spend a lot it's just not nearly enough for me to do a 175$ hell event
Most of my months are less than that
I can't say none cuz I spent more when the astra event packs were out 
I don't remember the name
The one with 3x5$ 3x20$ 2x50$ 1x100$ packs in a special tab
I was grabbing all the 5 and 20s
Plus brilliant scam chests I think
The gifts galore is good as well
The one that has brilliant scam chests , monstrous crates and jewel chests
But jewel chests will be gone after 5$ If I remember right
I don't remember any that looked worthwhile
Sometimes it has the astralite II and sometimes astralite I
It was a while ago like 2 months
They can't forget these speed ups one
I deleted the SS of it
Low on gems
Imagine not having 11m gems
yep
Phatty
no 60 btw
Demon slayer
Igg id: 1689155740

?
Not like I would ever pop a 70% on a blast PvP rally
noobs
Maybe they are too rich
I don't spend enough
To be getting battle prowess packs regularly just to get atk boosts
Yeah most of them were full champs
ok
You get burned if he rallies

need my 4m each count back
amma leach now]

Bloody target shielded after 2 hits when the chunky rangw on cav hit was coming

IGG id 1314980830
Demon slayer
was off all day today

that's really good
I met a strong lead today 
OP
Hes low on cores too to be honest

Fucking dead alts luck
Mm seems like that's a one hella fight
My da will be great it will be just me and 1 guildmate playing at 5k cups
Cuz we forgot to go to da shell and since we can we registered main guild xD
Don't worry I'm with you hehe
Not bad seen as they had 150% army attack boosts from forts
If anyone from that guild sees them screenshots good fight

don't have ss of his war gear, but that's his speed
313 stars, 7 blessed, 505 levels
And that's my gear
👀
very no good choice of formation from him
Whale
@hasty herald

See this i was talking about free jade pacts 
Spend your 5$ on labors
Or on these coins

I will get surprise chests ii.
get shadow sigils
Same broooo
I might get it
Yes chronicler tomorrow so 
I got the tokens
For orbs
Still have not gotten my points
Did IGG scam me? Tf
It’s been like 30 minutes
Ask live support




Limited challenge for heroes when😔
Never. F2p have no rights to get things for free
they have rights to buy packs and became p2p
Lie
True
Im a p2p...
Not too much but a lil bit
Nice update
I love this UI
Igg 1060520627
Igg make it so that you get this UI if you didnt buy packs
I got spanked at the end of kvk 
But why you take at end. You should only hit.
Ofc also at end for us we went other k but everyone pulled.
Same here we didn't have fills
I did hit but he was too strong for me

And he got 500k more reins jusy before walk but he set up was wonky so i tried 
Was it a bad hit ?
get more pacts and upgrade the familiar to elder
Mid

Waste
@sacred anvil use your mod power and give me mutated brains or corrosive toxins i will give you 3 of those gold rages
imagine not spamming 3h speeds from that news event
sadge
i need those 250 days of speeds
192 for me
I might do some on filler
I bought lunite
got lunite so far
and don't rly need anything else there
but on main and small lead I want other stuff
But spent 20k gems for tokens today some gems back ro 220k
am at 190k
I think i spent 40k gems in kvk
I'm dumping all gems I have on small alt to get guild to max rewards

ouch
me tagging chat fixed it a bit was at 800 when I woke up

also fun stuff finally astra paragon
got some astra upgrades and codex mythic on filler

I only get those nothing else worth it
3 new artifacts in one pull on my filler 😄
do you really ? what for better results leading dns ?
need it for taking them
Taking fills ?
Soon ?
yes
In the next 2 years
in like 3 months likely
3 months champ plate mythic ?
don't need it mythic to lead rallies
it's already 950% range

should be 1k in 3 months
mainly cuz I'm making a wyrm rod which will inflate troop type stat compared to crusher
🐳
use normal astra
No will do 100%
noice
I'm waiting to do mine likely for next paragon unless guy I have in current one starts fighting
gonna do lvl10 with monster (have choice chests) and than next 2 with normal if necessary 
Whale too many normal astra
I haven't used any for multiple months
never had a fight in paragon
it's all f2p
Yep it is but good you can finish plate anytime 
Tycoon?
Yesssir. Just waiting.
be careful he stronk
he beats 2pc champ easily
Of course
I'm rethinking my decision to go speeds
clicking that stuff is pain
nvm it's just nightmare on pc on phone can bug the display and collect 150 in under a minute
Wish someone told me this sooner
Yes
I was a bit too slow on the shield hehe
Wait for CA maybe you can max another fam in 2 weeks

I already got my bunny to level 5
Congrats
can use 225k t5 inf
it's 60%
did they forget to remove yesterday's monsters?
For some reason I don't get New ones ;((
Got my cav 24% artifact to 4 start too from this chest.
Probably you have all of them unlocked already
I am waiting for challange day
The first ones yes all 12. But not the other 9 + 9.
Got this on alt
🔥🔥
Nice 👍
Fat drops

Mod luck
Thats the way they get paid
if that's mod luck they can take it away
I was getting better drops before becoming mod
2 gray in 5xlvl5 isn't exactly good 
Diamonds skin would be really cool would love to pay with purple diamonds with a little star on them
I haven't gotten any crazy drops since getting mod
Imagine this one

3 artifact drops in 10 openings ?
😔
1 was def stats lol
the fact that account didn't have the purple one till that drop was very unlucky
But still the green one is good
Best idea
That’s thiccc
50 gems 
Might have found a guy that tried to solo trap with T1s lol
After his T3 frontline was dead it was easy
Noodle
sure why not ?
👍
I'm saving for this amazing blessed next
Well you are done with gold ones already so why not
that account is missing a lot of golds
none of them correct troop type

meanwhile


I am jealous of those two cav event artifacts though
Damn thats a lot of blessed
it has much more luck with cav than with inf artifacts
all the pure inf I have unlocked are 2 stars
I got scammed today 90 chests no new artifact 
And only got 15 shards of that flower's bounty

sounds like normal 90 opens
I got 15 shard drop of the pure inf one from this set


👀
inflated there too tho
Noodle DA lead**
3 gold 4 purple
3 golds is nice though

And ~140k gems, is that average drop from tons of tokens on bogo?
is that 3 purple halos?
1 gold and 83 gray
666 tokens/gold so you can calculate from it
My own very amazing drop
Which level monster
2

All seems useless
🔥🔥
Give me purple jewels if they're so useless 😤
I don't have gear to put them in ( missing 16m exp )take until then lol
Eww
Even I have mythic tomahawk and schitimir in 1554 😓
🔥
i got purple mitts purple sword purple plate (need common materials) and need common materials for mythic drum 🫠
i use this as food bank
Daily chest underrated , they also drop purple stuff sometimes 
Pretty good for not being a open kd 🤣🤣 3 titan guilds +3 other strong guilds
Everyone says open kd better but is it better than kds like this?
Noodles moved to kd
Dave too
Guess it's not too bad 
You still able to put them into lvl 60 gear
Noodle

oh wow my guild showed up here lol
hitting lvl5s actually giving something this time around 
Mod luck
U in this Kd? What's your guild?
Chronicler is good hero
?
For lvl5 gawrilla yes in general she's worse than dream for most monsters
I mean the guy you hit. I am in that guild but none of us are in your kd

Yo
This Guy was Holding Forts with 3 accs and i Made Sure to kick him Out of every single one
Imagine holding fort without size boost
All bigger guilds left and they felt to comftorbale
I got rallied in wow today
Everyone big left my kd too 
Tf free kills
We weren't filling so they felt confident

Last few days are very shit for me
Bro had 1m range still lost
Bro was 1pc champ 2 blessed

He lost before that rally walked

The 1pc champ guy cancelled rally to take base back when we got 3m in he didn't want to die like his friend
Tolich 8 should not even look in the direction of a fort
He rallied me it went very well for him
Only took 3,5x more loses while up 600k troops

That tolich 8 guy was food for me 
He was pro with 212 hero setup
Not like us noobs sending double range heroes in 424 and wasting squad atk
Looks like a fun wow. These guys would hit me. Lol
Rich
Finnaly got good drop from this chest 
He's trying to scare peoples with his 5 hidden common pieces 
Nothing to be scared if 0 blessed in that ^.
Me, the guy who just recently got to c25 with might of 35M and stats less than 120% on average being matched with these behemoth for paragon event
Shouldn't have gone to c25
Should've stayed at c24/23 for easy paragon
I'd start over if I were you considering you only got 35m might
Stay at lvl23/24 castle until you get gold gear via paragon
While hoarding speed ups/gems /rss etc
Lol, I'd rather quit altogether than start over
Nah gold gear takes loads of time with paragon considering you get 2 rare ones with each one
For rank 1 it's 2 rare?
32 common 2 rares
It's still better than being at c25 lmao
You get easy matchup in lower castle paragon
And in 7-8 months you can get 1 gold p2p hero if you're ranking 1-2
I'd take 2 rares at c24
7-8 months how you got that ?
15 medals / 3 weeks
You need to win paragon 24 times
Friend did math
I ain't good at math
I Knew it xD
It's 12 months which is a year
And not always 2 so can be more
And if not first than even more
I wonder how he got that 7-8
No clue
I wouldn’t call them behemoths , plus you are going to have an easier time actually you have more available things to do lol
It's 15 medals under c25 ? At c25 rank 1 is 10 
You get ~17 hero paragons a year
So full hero assuming you get rank 1 every time is just under 2 years
If you fail to get rank 1 at any point it's 2 years since the almost is just one rotation less than 2 years with full rank 1
Not sure how my friend came up with 7-8 months then.
Maybe he was including purchasing
With packs depending if 15 shard or 10 shard a pack you get extra 22.5 or 15 medals every paragon rotation assuming no 1+1 and 5$ pack only
Since heroes have a biweekly rotation
On 10 medals heroes that would get you around 9 months to max a hero
7 months for 15 medal a pack heroes but using paragon on those unless you have all 10 medal heroes you want done is a waste
If only chronicler was in paragon I could have her done sooner 
Good she isn't or all f2p would have more counter boost
Igg did it very well hero paragon is almost useless for first 2 years in terms of war impact for f2p so they are encouraging buying the heroes to actually max them
Its making berserker/lore weaver a lot easier 
oh sorry thought 15


