#🎮┊in-game-events
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10 balls is too high gamble. 1 or 5 okay.
Yep
The event page pack isn't tempting to buy 
I am not buying it
Depend on what you want.
With mall packs and couple here and there I think you can get 1 gold mane or 2 at most.
For other items idk if it's worth to buy or no. I am getting myself astralite for boots and then yellow orbs.
Tempted to spend 20$ on that stupid event
IGG ID: 1334056623
Free stuff is free
- additional you can buy for discounted price
And then you get them at full non discounted price... Which I'd say, can range between $60-90 per gold mane
Not worth if you don't get daily mall packs
So no mall pack today
Yeah
It's 7d event so ig it should renew tomorrow
Yeah, so when pack renew we wait for the video to check if it's worth waiting 1 day with buying it
Why not
how else would i spend my money
2$ for 30 tokems ?
You get like 400 badges from it if lucky
The next one is 3$ for 30 badges
That dosent seem much value for money
And they downgrading the tier rewards too
Spend less more pinball events come around 
You can work on dream witch and fox with that 2$ pack
60 one not dialy?
Nope
well that sucks
That's 1/5th of a purple mane 
Or 123 tomes... Making it better than massive discounts with coupon
on this pinball event is it better to do 10x or 5x
I always do x5 and don't care about 
I do 1x when the multipliers are on shlt locations or too less of them... And then 10x if there's bunch of multipliers, even if it's 2x ones... Coz I'd rather have high chance of getting 2x multiplier than low chance of 4x
Hmm, that actually sounds like good method, i think i will also try that
I calculated that with daily Mall pack and pinball Shop 2$ pack you will get around 8k points if you have an average like me of 12 points/per pinball
So 1 gold mane for 22$ if you only take the best value packs
It's not 1 gold mane for $22 technically...
It's free stuff + $22 whatever for it...
You would get free stuff even if you weren't spending
But yeah it's really good value
what stuff got the best value for f2p in pinballs shop?
I'd say yellow orbs, tomes and gold embers... As needed
astra aint worth?
even tho I don't have any mythic gear , i was wondering to save some beforehand
Manes
i aint building champ
Speeds are the best value
No... The difference small amount of Astra will make, will barely be noticeable
🤣 you take it and send ss
Well last time I got 40 astra
hmm ty for suggestions
Out of 50
40 astra too low
And 6-8k points doable f2p
Yes... I'm buying out full tomes on all my alts
Low ?? That's a 1,5 lvls for mitts and 1 lvl for chestplate
And we only talking about f2p
If any has necessary research done, it gets embers
That's subjective... The higher you go, the lesser value you get per Astra
And still doesn't compare to value that 2k tomes can provide towards unlocking your t5 or Sigils or extra wonder size...
Or embers that can make that fookin crusher mythic, which is sitting in your bags for years, waiting for you to give it some love...
Or yellow orbs for the range shield fam so you can take lesser losses from battles
That is smart
tomes are stupid easy to get
without pin ball you get 1k tomes easily a month
with minimal effort
tomes only good if you don't need the other stuff
like yellow orbs since those are still hard to get f2p
as well as astralite
Yes... But why not get 2 months equivalent tomes in advance
Why would you not want to finish your researches faster
Yes.. But there aren't much fams that provide actual value to so called F2ps... As well as for astralite, you can't use astralite if you don't have mythic pieces...
And in F2p mix set, except mitts, firewall and blackwing boots, everything else is shlt expensive...
Even for cheaper ones, you get diminishing value 
2k tomes, that's like 10% to 1m wonder size... Which is way more valuable than those minor stats of astralites
for f2p players there aren'T much tomes needed
t5 useless advanced wonder or wonder battle useless
you are saying that a f2p player will do wow

T5 very good for f2p, you use it to get in good guild and than constantly say "sorry no lunite" and send T4 to rallies 
There's something known as "dragon arena"
Don't touch t5 ,btr
I like T5 makes my comp look nice

allows for OCD friendly numbers
since it doesn't die as often as t4
May be the most ridiculous looking leader skin lol
Also more tier rewards if spending so there is that.
Yeah but after discounted tokens, it's just not worth it... Unless ya want to get those army skins
you want them to get advanced wonder and wonder battles just so they can noodle in da ?
that's hilarious
"sorry out of troops 1 and a half years and i can join again "
if guild covers heals you can easily make joining rallies work f2p 🤷♂️
gifting lunite?
T4s
Try arguing this with sparta @sharp berry
did you read, you get t5 to say you're a t5 filler and than join t4 and cry about no lunite
and sometimes whenever igg give out some free lunite you save it for stuff like end of kvk wonders and the leads will still love you since you will send t5 when it really matters

and if good at the game you can leech kills on money shots going pure t5 if you know they won't get touched
Why bringing me in this convo 
I gave up on arguing with him

What's point in being educated if you can't win simple arguments
I do that all the time. Saves a lot t4s for me.
same
I often do 90% t5 as lead on money shots
and tell people to do higher themselves
some don't listen so we always have a nice t4 buffer anyways

We don't need ask. A lot members know from us on which target and which rally lead t5s can be trusted.
I don't need to ask some of the fillers too, some people aren't paying attention tho and unless asked they will go 60/40
In Expedition rallies on pve forts, I fill like 1.8m t5 with my accounts... While some random noobs send t4s coz they need points 
You don't get entry in chaos arena guilds without t5... Tbh you don't get entry into any active guild without t5
Oh and just the feeling of superiority by having t5s over other F2ps 
You can also get sigils with tomes. So not only t5 is really good for f2p, sigils are as well and you can get sigils quite good with bargain stores
Actually there is no point in arguing i do what i want i don't need his advice he does what he wants not worth wasting time on arguments 
a day without fastfox arguing is a wasted day
a good day*
-&+
You are boring
Lol I've t5 with 500m might without spending a penny
Most of the f2p have t5s .. now need is lunite .. 😅
I have T5 as f2p but like it's nothing when you couldn't really use it because of the lack of lunite supply
I got 200m lunite if I join Kari's guild it would last like 2 months
Whil filling 100k T5.
Yes I seen it
That's why I said after one point he will be out of troops because T5 sitting in the beds can't be healed just slowly by daily production
And rushing T5 as f2p ain't a great idea you unlock T5 so fast which is good but you won't get the lunite supply for it to maintain them
You not speak for everyone here though ^^.
There are lots ppl that not stay in war guilds and not use their T5s much. They however like to do Dragon Arena or say Chaos Arena to some extent. And it is good if you have the T5 fills then ;))
So you suggesting f2p players to get advanced wonder , wonder battles , T5 just so they can do something in da ?
And what you said is the option that most choose and get zeroed and rebuild for a year and get zeroed once again when they forget shield and someone with extreme spider senses ports there
( saying wonder and advanced wonder because dfurf said that they could do it for da )
Again you are missing the point, you aren't supposed to join rallies that get capped with the T5, you just use it as a ticket to get into nicer guilds 
I understand your point
This is just a skill issue, if you get zeroed on a regular basis that's just being bad, if you have a comp that can't get soloed even if you drop shield you get extra time assuming you did the first step and got into a good guild that will call you
If you are dropping shield while impossible to reach with a call than that's just poor planning
Out of 98 accounts in my guild ~10 would fit your average
Rest take care of their stuff

I see it in my kd that there are many ppl ( in enemy guild ) dropping shield regularly
I think there is a dude that got zeroed 3 times by now since they came here lol
So back to the point
Just to get in a good guild as f2p you need T5 but some of the guild will kick you if you won't use them
Than you go to next one
Everyone wants T5 fillers
Most won't track what you fill with
"T5" fillers
Yeah you have T5 so you get in as a "T5" filler
But that not fair for everyone else in the guild
Than if you get kills and do events unless you joined a titan guild that tracks stuff like baron participation you are unlikely to get kicked
You care about that ?
Well I do care about other ppl as well I'm not selfish
That's true tho
Than join a 20b guild and help the small folk out
Once they grow they will jump to a bigger guild and than you can help new small guys out
Others in my guild idc about the rest
Of they are using their T5 killing theirs why would I go into my barracks and watch my T5 " how beautiful you are and yet I can't use you because I don't want to heal you "
Well if the fact you can't send T5 to everything makes you feel bad about being in a bigger active guild than idk if any of the conversation had a point
No I'm talking about WoW idgaf about castle rallies
For castle rallies you said how to do it and most do it like that
Wow is the most expensive part
Yes I know it but there you T5 matter
Unless P2P good luck with that, even P2P a good wow fight is expensive
Last wow my guild fought I lost around 500k T5 per acc

That's dead not counting heals
And those are really good for EDM
I have more kills from wow then from other sources
And if you don't have spider senses you won't get near to a castle rallies sadly in bigger kingdoms
If you mainly care for wow there's nothing you can really do f2p, that's just not f2p friendly part of the game
Well dfurf :
You can play da 🤷♂️
He said that they could do advanced wonder , wonder battles for da but that's so useless
Also sigils
Not rly
Wow part of the game
Sigils help getting in guilds same as t5
So a 2 pc champ can port in hit you with a 2m rally and kill half your rally ?
Sigils are only useful in wow fight
Yeah and you can smack other non champ people before one does
Unless you play in a da bus there's plenty of small blue/purple gear castles fighting for forts
Most ppl do that
Because most efficient way to get dragite
I'm not against T5 as f2p I'm just saying that it's really useless in most of the cases
Idk if most is correct here I do play in a bus and 90% of our matchups are guilds doing their own shell

90% of the time you won't use them and the 10% is da, ge, CA, and a bit of castle rallies
When we did da bus we haven't got those maybe you guys have a high ranking
Like 7k cups
Or more
Again I believe that's just wrong unless you only get on to play wow, only places where you can't use T5 are initial hits on targets (if they even cap anything) and wow
Using them in expedition also isn't a great idea tbh
It's cheaper to heal healing 100k T5 is less then 1m lunite and you will get solo done fast and get out of that stupid event
Also in CA most of the guild will need your T5 if you do join a one that does forts
The F2p guilds I play in, sit shielded except for dragon arena, choas arena, Expedition and kvk... You are looking at top 1% guilds that actively fight... And ignoring 99% guilds that barely rally once a week in normal kingdom
I was in a f2p guild kinda f2p we had a few spender they set rallies like once a day and that was it
But you can use them daily on running DNs, in da, every single hit that gets a good burn, if you are in a good guild (which the T5 let you get into) the leads are usually strong enough that on smaller targets from 2nd hit onwards you can send T5 and not have any wounded, in CA you do minimum amount of gameplay and take some T5 wounded for the rewards but again you use t5.
And they did wow everytime
I don't see the 90% of you can't use t5
Yeah... And in such guilds, ya get to use t5 in pretty much most of the battles
Ge, wow, CA, most of the castle rallies since a target won't always get his frontline down in 1 rally
Idk most of our targets usually burn on hit 1/2
It's not that common to hit stuff that caps
Burning someone doesn't mean you don't lose T5
And in CA you do get to use them otherwise you don't get to do forts
You can burn someone with a mix who have 70m troops and you still lose t5
That's one place where you spend some of your f2p lunite
Why would you be hitting 70m troops tho
In CA you only need the tomes for f2p most won't be jsed
Embers, fancy jewels
Maybe because he is offline ? Just dropped shield ?
Yeah no thank you lol
It's not like "you must do chaos arena"... It's like, it unlocks as an option if you have t5
Unless the kingdom is boring I ain't touching that
I'm not saying that it's a must
That's what I'm saying exactly you won't always use T5 in CA as well you can do the kill troops and heal and some gather and MH and be done with the event

And also here we talking about the f2p who unlocked T5 within a year or so and have a supply
You can be done with T5 in 6 months
If you really really focus on it
"Usefulness of t5" is different topic than "being efficient in choas arena"
Also... F2p can support leads with Sigils... And dragon arena, the only place where F2ps get to lead... Having that extra 1m capacity, is huge over other F2ps not having them 
Regarding this
I do agree that sigils are great
Advanced wonders let's you send more troops on forts... Making it take less people to fill the forts in arena
But I don't agree with the wonder ones
And I'm pretty sure, dragon arena is more than half the pvp, an average F2p gets to engage into
That's max 3-4k tomes there
If he doesn't take part in ge yes
If they take part in GE they are rich f2p even without T5 that event is a nightmare to heal in

F2p players make hyper alts to keep up with RSS
At least that's what efficient players do
Ge, he just a replaceable filler... Never seen a F2p keeping up in ge with me... They tend to leave or switch after just 2-3 rallies...
Oh and Wonder size doesn't work there, it's specifically for dragon arena
Most don't and you kept bringing up average that get zeroed every year, most of those don't have any or more than 1 alt
But you can use advanced wonder march size if I know correctly
Just 1 troop as f2p almost no healing bill and you will get your solo done in 1,5 yrs or so
Lmao
The whole topic started with, whether to pick 40 astralite or 2k tomes in pinball, for F2p
And you can say you are active in ge

Or anything else like yellow orbs
Amber's
Yellow orbs feel kinda ass idk
You specifically said astralite
I said orbs as well
I want them on alt but value compared to purple records is ehh

Because you need tons to get fams done and not really an event where you can get them f2p
I mean
Only enchanted expedition and this pinball
In EE I wouldn't take it
I skip on that
Here
Same applies for research with tomes
Here
What are you taking in EE than ?
I guess that works EE always felt least painful to give up other stuff in for orbs
A guaranteed growth via tomes... Vs gambling on crates
Like I would need tomes lol
I have 2k tomes and I haven't took those from events for 4 months
And also been using some of them
Then put those 2k on use... So you'll need more
And btw slot 5 > T5 research
Slot 5 sux ass
Why would I want useless might that I can only use in 1 event out of the many other ones
What you gonna put in it? Some stoopid 15% atk familiar?
Maybe my wall fams?
I have 3 slots and I can't use all the fams I want to
Dude wants a 250m might from slot 5, to put some shlt on his wall, rather than having t5, which makes it easier for him to eat rallies...
Okay so guys what about when you are out of lunite??
Nvm my lunch is ready... I'm out of it
I don't want slot 5 I only want slot 4
You guys keep talking like f2p players have an endless amount of lunite
The last event where you could get lunite from was the coce Collab which was 20m
It's not a lot
Also you need to replace T5 constantly
How is slot 5 better than T5 lol
Slot 5 doesn't need consumables and also can be used in da just like T5 helps you with weaker leads just like advanced wonder and helps
Going by the logic and points you made
It's 200m might
Doesn't get you in good guilds
Has much less effect than T5 or wonder size on da
Doesn't get you in CA buses if you want to do more points than easy f2p for some reason
Unless you have P5 fams the extra slot is negligible stats
So you mainly get the 10% army stats and some troop ones from research itself
P5 much easier to get then a good amount of lunite
120m
You've been saving
And for how long you have been saving
They stacked from the hell event thing
Aaah so a 1 time event
And cargo
Yeah no events ever happen
This was 20x6m if I remember correctly
No
2m lunites in terracotta one
It was 20m total lunite
Ever Collab and event gives 20m lunite for f2p except that 1 time event
Which will never ever come back
It was around same time as the king's journey artifact event
But... Dragon arena takes no lunite
And it was 120m free lunite
As well as taking hits on your castle, costs like no lunite... Unless you are stoopid
Getting bamboozled will get you losses
You don't always need lunite... You pick your battles, as per your lunite availability
Hmm I don't remember to that one and I've done most of them
That's your comp issues, not the fault of t5s... And if you are that stoopid, you deserve to have infirmaries full of t5
No lunite = "T5" filler looking for guild
Guess you didn't do that one than I still have some 6m lunite bag items on my filler from it cuz I don't have big enough infirms to use those so been using them to make new T5 
Let me check
If you get T5 loses on a boozle that's some major comp issues lol
I only have 2m ones no 6m ones
And I've been taking lunite on main as well since I started on alt
Again the "T5" only comes into play if you want to join fat target rallies or wow, on nicer targets you are same as any other filler, so much better than a T4 account
Guess someone skipped an event than
What king journey event ?
Talking about the one where you could get the rare ones ? The event ones ?
For the blue coins
These? 
Yo

For the record... I buy no lunite on alts... Except for Mirage Realm... So all these lunite in bags, came from events only

You won't get that much lunite
Not sure... But been getting Mirage Realm for less than last 3 months
Of yeah the artifact event one
The EE with the most stupid design
Where you needed to spend artifact coins to get stuff
They were constantly burning lunite tho... But in Expedition, kvk and occasional chaos arena only
I haven't done that I used my coins for gf
And also that's not really a f2p friendly event
And also a 1 time event
Anything else ? You want to show like 1 time events
Shlt adds up
It was in last year around August since then it haven't shown on board
What about f2p players who start now ?
Getting to T5
Because they were going for T4
They will get a new one time event in a month or two
Couldn't get in
Let alone t5... A F2p can't keep up with even t4 filling, if he joins even half the rallies that kari's guild does...
Coz they don't get enough speeds...
Point is, these events keep coming to give you lunite... Who knows they might get even more than us 
And like I said we haven't seen it it was half a year I wouldn't say it will come back
You never know what Igg will introduce
It don't need to be specifically that event
I've been keeping 20k coins for paragons on all my accounts so I got to do the good EE on all of them including the f2p trap, once again skill issue strikes 🤷♂️
Also then we could say astralite is so bad you could've gotten your monster pieces done
There was a better event since, the hell event one, it didn't require you to have coins saved
Lunite from events isfrequent... Monster astra shlt was a 1 time thing... Both scenerio are different 
And hell event one was out twice
Better you need endless amount of speeds

So there is a real chance it comes again
Yeah artifact ee is a monthly event
You get to choose which ones you do and even if broke f2p you get to do some
Now you complaining about speeds 
What next... Cry about rss? 
And ppl rather spend speeds for gf and EE then doing helm events because they don't know if it will come just 3 days earlier
No... The point is lunite events... Not the artifact ee... You grabbing wrong end of the stick
You said that monster astra was a 1 time thing and you guys said 2 1 time things as well
Any F2p spending speeds in fest, I put them in my list of dumb F2p
Idk I don't use speeds on fest on my f2p account I just do 209 labs from familiar stars and DN/gather quests
You get the speeds back you spend at least most of them
We didn't say that same 1 time thing will repeat... We said, there might be more 1 time thing that gives lunite
You do dn tasks and get those most of speedups for free, to save for some shiny event
And that from pattern of them coming out every 2 ish months with new lunite 1 time event it's likely for more of them to keep appearing
Yeah especially the training speed ones for 120% no ? Crazy use LMAO
Oh look... 20m lunite
Collabs are frequent they always come
And a bunch of them come with lunite 
I got that it's max 1,5 month worth of lunite
At max
Ina guild like Kari's it's maybe a month
A day
A good day ye
2 hrs of Kvk
If we find some nice fatty target
And you send 60/40 to all of them
Which you aren't supposed to do as low spender/f2p

Again you get that free and you get some in cargo and than in 2 months there's another event
You have to be smart and fight as much as you can afford... Nobody tells you to join all the rallies and burn all lunite
I haven't got lunite from cargo for 4 months now
Cool I got it yesterday
Maybe you don't do all the trades?
Wait nvm that's dumb
Oh look lunite today too
I guess my comment started a much larger discussion here.
But it seems on the whole no point to argue with Fastfox. He can only imagine 1 scenario where the fillers must use T5s on War Rallies and fight crazy WoWs ;))
May be ya don't remember but I think at least 2 times there were hell events that offered lunite for 2 days or smth. And it was decent amount then.
Why you even bother tbh ....
where i said he must use t5 it's just that every guild runs 100% t5 rallies now and then and you will still lose a bit of t5 in the money shot as well also wow will be a thing once you are in a war guild
but dfurf mentioned a farmer guild
Every guild 100% T5s ?!?
You only talk about Top 1~3% of the guilds and want F2P with T5s to survive over there. Lol
We are a War Guild and we never do 100% T5s; not even in WoW or anywhere else (except only when we do CA for 3-4 hours or so; and that too only cuz all enemies are full T5s and not doing it will put us at a big disadvantage).
well top 1-3% guilds ?
most of the war guilds ask full t5 time to time
especially when someone is capped and need a rescue
looks like kari is in the top 1-3%
Even there just don't fill is an option too ;)) No one monitors participation most of the time.
You can easily keep your t5 without losing lunite if you manage it the proper way even if you don't spend money
Sounds like 1 person vs whole server
Yes... Kari's guild doesn't ask 100% t5... So you can imagine how rare those guilds are
you sure about that?
he just said it the other day that they sent 100% t5 for a rescuq
That's exceptional circumstances
and if you aren'T joining most of the rallies you should rather go into a farming guild then be in a war guild as a "t5" filler
i just proved you wrong and you already say that it wa an exception
how many more exceptions you need LOL
Yes cos it doesn't happen generally
where did i say it's a regular thing?
The way you said it, like they do full t5 rallies all the time
Every guild runs 100% t5 rallies now
Exceptions exist... I sit in farmer guilds and sometimes send full t5 solos on forts in kvk... Sometimes I ask max t5 and send 100% from my alt's as well... That's exceptional circumstances... It's not like I do this all the time
a bit of help with understanding now and then
Yeah... And you know what... That F2p t5 filler with lunite problems, must join that full t5 rally, that happens like once in a blue moon
blue moon?
it happens at least once a month
during kvk pretty sure
during kvk wouldn"t be suprised especially at the end of it
where you need the forts those are a hell for f2p
still looking for the" Exchange Extravaganza — Today at 11:39
The way you said it, like they do full t5 rallies all the time"
there are better researches then t5 for f2p
even ones without the need of tomes
100 rallies a month vs that once a month... Yeah definitely a must not miss rally
100 rallies a month will get you out of t4 easily
and you don't get enough speeds to replace
The whole bullshit argument is about tomes... Tf you bringing non tomes research into it
Eggzactly... You DON'T need to join everything
i'm not joining every rally myself i choose when i join or not and i still suffer of not enough t4
You are fine with skipping those 100 rallies but arguing about that 1 full T5 rally
Yeah... Slot 5... Yeah...
whole argument comes from tomes > everything else in the shop
.............
I regret it now 
Dm
And you still haven't proven how those 40 astralites are better than 2k tomes
that 40 astralite will get you more hp then 2k tomes
debuffs , military upgrade for less healing cost it helps a lot to them
debuffs help taking rallies in da as well or when your castle get rallies
while in the other hand that wonder battle will help you nothing in defending your castle
that 300m extra might will help a lot
Why event-submission-read-pins not open yet???
You will never get that 40 astralite as f2p 💀
While you can get 500-1k tomes
If you are lucky
As a f2p you will lost likely Not Even Come to the Stage where the Astralite is helpful lol
6.5k points can be done f2p i already have more then 2.2k points
This arguing started yesterday, i wonder when will it end
In my opinion normal astralite is not that good for f2p.
Rather astralite selection chests are better value and more accessible /present in event rewards.
When, we never did a full T5 PvP rally before lol
Best we got on a rescue was about 80% and that happened once and only people who went heavy T5 were P2P rally leads 
Told you no point in arguing just ignore and do what you want
Yeah i know, cuz arguing with fastfox is just a waste of time 

I don't even know what is it all about, i only saw a lot of "t5"
astralite < tomes in the exchange pinball shop
for f2p
Should just do a poll
Just click the reaction to vote...
And anyone who spams chat to push this poll into endless chat history, is monkey
Tomes win
Even as someone who needs astral I would still take the tomes over astral.
Astral is a bad value buy

its for f2p from pinball event
Point stands
Most free players are unlikely to actually need the astral anyway 
Besides three of the astral voted are clearly from random people who dont know what they’re are pressing or why

fastfox's alts
Do you accept your defeat?
One question still remains if they don't get astra here where they will get it from
Like you can get tomes easily 1k a month
And it's still hilarious that you said that f2p players could do wonder research
They dont need normal astral
When the hell is a free player ever going to have orange champion
Well gl getting thousands of monster astra
You can get max 200 monster astra / month
840 monster astra for mitts +9 that's 4 months
They should buy packs and those packs should be astralite one crazy idea
Astralite monsters, expedition, nest crusade, chaos arena (?), collaboration events. All give monster astral.
Astralite monster are a waste
The only thing that's good in monster hunting is the amount of the gems you could get
Not necessarily. I got 200 trojan astral with a pretty reasonable amount of energy outside of the x3 event
X3 doesn't increase the chance of it happening
It's just you get 3 astra instead of 1
Chaos arena is 100
Ge is another 100
But both of those are a waste since there is the craziest things tomes you know the big tomes
And what you want to spend your tomes on as f2p ?
Advanced wonder ?
Just so you can lead in da 
IGG ID: 608831711 the guild was done before I joined. Don’t know the meaning of it
Also champ is much much easier then new monster pieces as f2p
Langer already has a gold champ piece
We still arguing with the wall? 
You don't need to get everything...
They need to select the item that gives them most beneficial upgrade to their account
So what... Why not have extra tomes to finish your researches faster...
Why tf you'll delay those bonuses?
Like they can finish the researches lol
Wise spend speeds when not even a single event around
They can... As long as they don't listen to your advices
They can

So you not only suggesting f2p players to go for wonder research but you also suggest them to spend speed ups when not even a single event up
That's even more hilarious
Also... Do you realize that gears of most F2ps look like this
Where I suggest them to spend speeds when not any event up
You are an idiot
Well Mr wonder research said it right there
Where I said them to use speeds without events tho
So you assuming it to mean that
How's that related to using speeds without any event
Try using brain sometimes, wonder research have also leadership stats, and that's way better than your couple astralite
It was in reference to this message tho
Also sigils got leadership and fury stats
I'm laughing at dfurf he said f2p player could do wonder research for extra space for da
Well reply function is in discord tho
And you sent it after my msg
You shoved a message right before I pressed send 
Yeah talking about 7k ish tomes there advanced is around 4k tomes
And by the time they will be done with 1 research they will get another 200 tomes
Assuming they aren't using technos for it and using it on something else which is more beneficial for them like debuffs or military upgrade for lower training and healing cost
Also MH tree
Their main source of non rare materials
Can't even block him... Coz it's entertaining
Most ? Name 10
If we are bringing literally new accounts then why do they need astralites more than getting their counter researches finished
Not really a need to bring new accounts
I know a few who haven't done MH and they aren't new
Won't you love to see F2p accounts with unfinished MH tree, having mythic gears needing astralites?
Basically my alt
Not finished MH because I don't / won't hunt lvl 4+ monsters and it needs astra for off hand
Also as it seems to me you haven't really tried researching T5 f2p
Because by the time you get 1 research done you will get another 200 tomes to spend
Because you can't spend speeds when there's no event up like gf, 120% , EE
Because then it's just a waste
What's wrong with having some extra tomes? O.o
It's skill issue in fox definition 
For newbies tomes are better but for accounts that has 1+ pieces mythic shouldn't take tomes
My point is rushing T5 has no benefit
You rush it just so you can be in a guild like Kari's and you won't last long
Because you don't have the troops
For P2P sure they can rush they just go ahead and swipe a bit when they need troops
Why do people always use Kari and his guild as top tier example. Raptor is there. Standards aren’t high.
Sorry. Not people. Fox.
But mythic + 12 piece even if only 1 gonna help them a lot in defending cuz they defend rallies or solos everyday ;))
They will defend rallies most of the times because they will have much worse gear then an average P2P filler
And getting hp up is mostly achieved by tempering gear
I say Kari's guild because I know that there you can be a "T5" filler
Anyway, fox are you taking astralite
I take the manes and astra
I wonder why F2Ps have to constantly fury in the first place if they are not in war guild (cuz no T5s ^^)? Can't they just chill without war?
Maybe instead of manes I take like 4 exchange worth of yellow orbs
Be cool and take only manes
That's what I said that most of them won't even fight with T5
Nah only at 2.5k points
They will just have it to call themselves "T5" filler
And join with T4
Needs must. I don’t join every rally with tier 5.
And probably you won't even need T4 for a good hunting guild
And the best for f2p is a really hunting focused gear for gems materials
Because you get more rares then non rares
Few of my guildmates suffer the lack of non rares he could have a mythic firewall plate but he lacks the non rares
But you still have to replace those troops
And? Tier 4 is easy 
It is when you lose a little bit
But when you lose close to a million in a Kvk it's not that easy f2p
Well if a free player is losing a million tier 4 per kingdom versus kingdom they are stupid
Should know their limits
Or they just want to have fun
Then they can’t complain after
Come prepared or don’t come at all 
Well you can imagine a f2p comp when he got T5 in 1,5 yr of playtime
This for f2p I would say wonderful lol
If someone doesn’t have a huge rally safe army after saving and hoarding for nearly 2 years I would be concerned
Saying the one that never played f2p
I don't get rallied even at 1b
Bro look at your gear lol
I have been on two accounts 
For 2 days ?
3 months
We know that it's fake
@ivory trout my gear
And everyone will know it's fake
In those three months? Saved up a whole load of gems and speed ups
Load of speeds ? How many days ?
Maybe around 400 not including training speed items
I got enough speeds to boost 800k t4 in last 2 weeks just from hunting and guild gifts
That's 5m and you need 12m lol
And i was doing 1 hell daily for those boxes
I haven't done capybara event it sucks
Also you need RSS to train troops
For f2p you can't swipe it
I want that artifact so can't skip
You gather or make alts
They have like two billion in bags saved 
Which one ?
That's 2m t4
Cavalry attack fury
And in early stages you won't get that much speeds
Because everyone in the kingdom is weaker
I don’t get what your point is. You argued it’s awfully difficult. Im telling you otherwise from playing that perspective already 
So what if its 2,000,000 tier 4. Thats a whole lot of tier 4.
2m T4 can't be in a war guild / can't take rallies
Wrong 

You can rake rallies ?
And you think f2p player would do that ? Lol
Kari can we make clown role 
I do on alt, can fill with 300k t5 and hide too
I have one in my guild lol
That does exactly that
1 out of the 10k ?
Or might be more
Around 50-60k
My alt that's 2
For your reference @bitter narwhal
Fox has officially lost it
Left I think
Now all that’s left is fox and IGG ID posters
Where are those numbers coming from ? Hideable comps are really popular most active guilds have like 5-10 people running those and the people who do run them are usually very low spenders or f2p cuz ones who aren't just end up making a normal comp to make their lives easier
His own personal database
Depends on gear in both situations as well as rally lead
If shit gear and lead strong then that's just obvious
But if strong gear and lead shit it can go either way
Well if you take part in most of the kvk in 1,5 yrs old kd the leads won't have bad gear
You said you have one , our guild has 1 I know of and Dave has 1 also the big guild don't accept them
So they are either in a group themselves or they are just hidden somewhere in the shadow realms
Wait lemme catchup
- littlered 1b solo trap guy
alongside 5 others things
solo trap rally trap rally lead farm as well as bank
Forgot the biggest thing
Thank god
Ok nvm... Nothing great discussed yet
Gryphon trap
We have a 2nD one called kitshne
I know hes a fucking moron

Tried to watch his video and had to mute it instantly
He does it with music?
Ask about his overpowered green baron jewel he got by 1 trooping a baron

No he speaks and its awful
My free to play castles unlocked the lion army skin
wtf what how

Under 1k it's f2p
No joke I got that on my alt
It's hilarious I took those for fun
From that shop
After lunite
Idk which guilds yall mfs sit in but only for emp and some
Baron rally’s we did full t5
Best was 80/20 in pvp or wow but never full t5 
80/20 still hurts
The main point here was that every f2p should take tomes over astralite or other things in the shop
Depends if he wanna be a trap do astralite if filler go for tomes
But that’s just my opinion
And trap part for those who want to keep as low might as possible... Not those who do whatever, sit with like 500m useless might and still call themselves trap
Mfs having a defendable comp with 1.6b might and call themselves trap 

Advanced wonder and wonder battles great research
Dfurf said those are good for da leading for f2p player lol
Bruh
May be no point discussing it further tbh.
oddlyspecific
Ill repeat the free players can have fun with their 4 astral they get from this pinball event instead of useful tomes

.
I already get 16 astra rather take that then tomes I got 2k can't do shit with them
Let me know how far that 16 takes you 
Close to halfway in the event and hfway to +1 lvl on my mitts
Could make +1 on fist and +1 on rod
Halfway to +1 on mittens 
Seems like a poor investment but thats just me
Yeah I should spend money on my f2p account to get astra lvls for more hp while I'm f2p crazy idea
+1% hp < shit useless might I will never take advantage of
Have all sigil slots?
Sure you do
It's useless lol
10% troop attacks
If you do the whole sigil for that you gain more useless might then you will ever want
Guess my rally lead castle has useless might then
You are a lead not a filler
And what you get for that research doesn't worth the might
But why would free players care about might
They are lucky if they get to keep their might 
Free Kills. Best use of T5s ;))
Well then why not taking the rss chests
And getting maxed out quest might
Not doing events
For the record... He asked what's use of tomes after t5... So i said they can do Sigils... Or get additional wonder size from wonder research... Or even get extra reinforcing size from advanced wonders...
I believe dragon arena is more than half of pvp a F2p engages in... And it's pretty much only place where they get to lead and have fun... Most guilds except for big ones, are full of F2ps fighting on side forts 
Just wait for point where you'll need like 3-4 rotations of pinball just for 1 upgrade on those mitts 
You weren't supposed to expose the secret

I rather lvl up my mitts then trying to get 10% fury atk which will have no use since I won't really fury as a trap and also 200m extra might crazy
That's your personal opinion... YOU DO YOU... Just because you eat shlt, doesn't mean we'll serve shlt to everyone in the party... You want to eat shlt then you are free to do it... But you can't generalise it, that it's better for everyone...
Any sane person who "don't want to keep his might low" , would pick that 10% over a smoll buff from an astra upgrade...
Also Sigil research is only 80m might, not 200m... And it's not 80m for just that 10% fury stats... It's 80m for whole tree...
You suggested that 1m+ capacity is good for f2p lol
When will you see a hideable filler running rallies on forts
And most of the guilds won't let you hold a fort under 600% mix
But again... That's your personal choice... The general concensus of this chat, clearly favors tomes over Astra for "general" F2p players...
Exceptions exist... If someone really wants to finish their +15 mitts and don't give a shlt about t5, Sigils or wonder size, they are free to do so... That's their personal choice...
That personal choice, doesn't make astralite > tomes for general public as well
Dragon arena
Have you seen one ?
Come see arena in my current guild
Yes... Most guilds under 100b might, are full of F2ps fighting on forts in arena ...
You are only considering guilds like kari's guilds, where F2p don't even get a fort assigned to them
So everyone in your guild has 1m+ capacity research ?
Nope ,
Tf is that logic
Tbh you should write a guildmail saying guys get tomes good value
I was in multiple guilds that had f2p players in it all of them said don't do wonder don't even bother useless might
If anyone asks... Sure... Else it's their choice to pick what they like... You play game for fun, not for some perfectionist to do what he thinks is best... I'm not gonna impose my thinking on everyone
And here you saying that they should get it ?
Sure 
Just like you got no lunite from cargo ship for last 4 months
Funny enough they said that they regret the extra might they got for small amount of stats
It's pure luck what you get
Sure
And when you get
Haven't seen a tome drop for a year now
And you said it yourself they will allow to host 2-3 rallies then switch
Because they will keep losing the players that spent money
Literally you said that that extra might worth that 2-3 rallies
RSS chest > 11k chests > tomes > astralite
Going by your logic
How cool is that you will have a gray 11k if you are lucky
That was for Expedition... I said F2p t5 fillers in Expedition can't keep up with me... So they tend to switch or go off after 2-3 rallies...
That's my personal case... I'm sitting with 5 t5 filler alts filling me like 1.8m t5 in my rallies in Expedition coz I love that event
Oh you love wasting RSS so get RSS chests
That will be really really good
Even better then tomes
Might just buy the speed ups I mean 6k of those
That's value right there
You just pulling random statements from random discussions to try hard to win 
Random statements?
I buy a full bank of rss with gems for it
How much gems for a full bank?
For the rss chests you don't need to spend gems ever better value
Only cost 1.2k coins
Crazy f2p account
Like this is what my t5 count looks like in Expedition... With like 1.8m+ t5 coming from my accounts
The F2p is there sending t4 coz nobody else had t5 to make it full t5
Oh and there's their F2ps that got fvked
I meant their fillers, not that dude
Does any type of might really matters now a days? I don't care how fat I am I can move 1 scroll (+ 1 Relo.) to 90% of the kingdoms in perm. dominion.
Need a better rage bait tactic
It costs more relos.no ?
No
No
Wow thought it's going to use more
Dude doesn't even have his facts straight 
I haven't migrated during that shit
It's 1 scroll for me everywhere and I have 10 scrolls still
1928565821


Buy relocators
We have one f2p T4 hideable guy we have 6 more that aren't full f2p and that have t5
They aren't heavy spenders but not full f2p 🤷♂️
I know 2 of them buy mirrage monthly
Yeah getting low on them
That like another 200
It's like Chichi talking about f2p experience lol
If you buy packs you won't experience the real f2p pain
And mirage realm is a huge +
If you have only 10 F2ps in your guild vs having 90 F2ps in your guild... The number of F2p hidable comp, will be proportionately different too
What is the Box at the top of your screen? Dont you get that for lords mobile membership like platinum member or something like that?
It's when your items reach max capacity... It stores excess there
Oh lol I always thought it was some Kind of lords membership shop
It is
You will only experience it once you spent money
I didn't know the inventory items use unsigned int16 value

Those are the uncollected rewards from last kvk
I know, I was referring to inventory capacity limit
then why it says "items that exceed inventory capacity"
Bugged
I haven't seen too many full on f2p accs with first purchase bonus, we have multiple people who have accounts they used to spend on but have been f2p on for 2 years+ and been keeping up with filling fine they aren't in every rally but get good monthly kills 🤷♂️
IGG gave free diamonds at one point aswell
this for example has been f2p for last 3 years
Even raptor buys mirage 
it's great for hideable account
especially if you also have t5 and can use the lunite
I don't buy it on mine cuz I find not having my marches at home annoying so I end up skipping gathering the lunite half the time which defeats the purpose of spending on it
+1
Do I make T4 or T2 
I'm thinking just bunch of T4
T5 
not enough rss used
and not enough might gain
I'm doing fest on it and spending rss before migration
Skem
T4
Ping me if you need more rss i will send them over else will put then on alt
this actually gets rallied from time to time but t2 on it never lasts long so comp ends up like this after like a month since making 30m t2 and that's not from losing t2 in the rallies 
That dude doesn't need tomes
I know many
it does it doesn't have sigils done
Monster chests 1 or 2?
Skem
Not too good.
Tomes it's great value

This is enough right ?
Got all of this from making really good suggestions
And guess who said this update should come
2k tomes for 100$ ?
RIP
Let's not start again 
2k tomes for 100$ > 2k tomes for 40$
It's not just tomes... There's other stuff in that $100 pack too... That apparently, doesn't appear to people with weak eyesight

The fuck
It's 648 but i get it
I saw 10$ at 68... So probably just assumed 680
Funny how they are getting discounts, the more you buy... While we have to pay in same ratio
Ok it looks better like this when i typed ¥ into google it proposed me yens lol
Yeah... That's why can't rely on Google and ai for everything... Education is important
I wouldn't say knowing all the currencies of asia countrys should be common education when you live on the opposite side of the planet but ok

I just searched "Chinese currency symbols" coz felt the text on top left is Chinese
I wish i could feel languages too :(
could do with braille
jk
IGG ID: 608831711. Spider-Man would be my body guard and hero!

Chill it's 2 day

@peak sundial your favorite pack

Berserker, Centaur, Wave Crasher, Lore Weaver.
any1 know the rotation of heroic encounter pack?
New packs often just go out and not come back.
But ofc this could return. Can't be too sure.
It was there before. It just changed from 1 chest to 2 chests
I talk generally about the new packs ;))
Igg I'd:1980951337
What is this for?
anyone knows among which kingdoms solo event rankings are distributed ?
2billion rss at 10$
Hopefully exchange tomorrow.
No ee but 100% speed up in hell, solo etc
Whut the fook

Fook

Way better than 35$ in the last one.
It's less than half the chests of that... And it gave embers, 18 gold books and brilliant skem chests too
For you, value looks too high coz of yellow orbs too
390$ for full run
Compare 20$ x 2


I don't need orbs... But also, it's half the monsterous crates, no brilliant skem chests, no guaranteed embers... No gold books
400 crates ?!
I would say this pack is better value for moni... Yes... But that wasn't a bad value either
It was 100 crates per 5$
Okay
Here it's 100 crates per 10$
If I had money I might have tried 20$ of this.