🌲-talent-tree

[tiny rose]

I got 101 🤔

[smoky sentinel]

You can get one extra more by completing the tower but that's only a bug and if you use more than 102 your entire talent tree and shao kahn tower gets resetted

[tiny rose]

And talent points are also reset?

I mean do i have to collect points from the start if i use more than 102

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

At 103 the whole talents are resetted because the max possible is supposed to be 102

[tiny rose]

A, then it is ok i guess since old players got 2 points extra also

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[tiny rose]

Hope this bug will be fixed soon cause if you got 103 or more and accidentally use all of them then its rip

[smoky sentinel]

You just don't have to use it

[tiny rose]

Yeah, sure. Do you play shao khan tower still? Me personally dont like this mode, after beating twice dropped it

[smoky sentinel]

I do, since my shao is f9

[tiny rose]

But if you max out shao then u will not be able to play relic hunt._.

[smoky sentinel]

So?

@amber sonnet

[tiny rose]

Extra souls) but idk if it is worth🤔

[smoky sentinel]

It's not

It's less than a day worth of quests every 4/5 months

[amber sonnet]

Should i replace brutal ending with death mark technic?and is the defense necessary?

[smoky sentinel]

-Yes
-No

In defense you only need hawk stance

[amber sonnet]

Isnt revenant and shinhoks teachings good anymore?

[smoky sentinel]

You just don't need them

[amber sonnet]

Does the support benefit scorpion?

[smoky sentinel]

My tree benefits everyone

[amber sonnet]

damn

[tiny rose]

Indeed, but i did change a little bit against bosses

[amber sonnet]

Wont some bosses and characters heal from the fire?

[smoky sentinel]

Bosses are immune to dots

[tiny rose]

Do you mean bosses in tower?

[smoky sentinel]

Also i made it specifically to fight in towers so i don't know why you would change it

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[amber sonnet]

Some characters heal from dots tho,it would literally counter the whole setup

[tiny rose]

Because i m using characters with stun

[smoky sentinel]

No since my tree is not based on dots

[tiny rose]

That question was not to you, but its ok😅 , Im just thinking maybe he meant bosses not only in tower🤔

[smoky sentinel]

Well only tower bosses can be dot immune, sure some challenge bosses can be too but even dark raiden boss in relic hunt can take damage from dots

[amber sonnet]

Wait what

[smoky sentinel]

No boss can heal from dots tho

[amber sonnet]

A normal dark raiden would?or cant he?

[smoky sentinel]

Dark raiden's passive is that he heals from dots

But boss dark raiden can't

[amber sonnet]

When u become a boss but lose all your power sed life

[smoky sentinel]

Still, i have used my tree without a single change for over a year and half so it means it works fine

Everywhere, both towers and fw

[amber sonnet]

Just checked it,a bit confused on how does it helps scorpion 😅😅

[smoky sentinel]

It helps everyone

Crits, crit damage, extra power on crits, sp1 cost reduction and chance to disable all specials on sp1

[amber sonnet]

Isnt scorpion depended on his dots tho?

[smoky sentinel]

Dots are an extra, he doesn't need them

[amber sonnet]

@smoky sentinel i heard people completing towers with mk11 scorpion without any fusion,is that actually possible?

[smoky sentinel]

I completed a fatal towers with a f1 scorpion so yeah...

Depends on the tower equipments tho

[amber sonnet]

Oh..i dont have much good equipments...

Really unlucky with the equipments...

@smoky sentinel should i use unbridled savagery instead of lightning blow?

[smoky sentinel]

No

[amber sonnet]

Weak point attacks requires a power drainer,is their any replacement of it?i dont really have any strong power draining character other then f7 tg raiden sp2

[smoky sentinel]

Sub0 has powerdrain, many characters have powerdrain, there should be at least one powerdrainer in every team, doesn't matter if weak or not

[amber sonnet]

Which subzero has power drain.-.

[smoky sentinel]

Mk11

[amber sonnet]

I dont have em

[smoky sentinel]

Yet

[amber sonnet]

On sp2?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[amber sonnet]

How long does snare lasts for?

[smoky sentinel]

30s

[amber sonnet]

Then i can use my tg raiden until i get subzero or get my kc johny stronger

[visual hamlet]

precision, opportunist or gambler

[smoky sentinel]

Precision

[fresh acorn]

So was it normal that I just got 1 extra talent point for finishing Shao Kahn tower for the 2nd time

Was wondering why was there a 4th card upon finishing the 100th battle

[forest current]

U might need to get the one that gives shield break in support

I use ninjitsu, strike force scorp and cos liu

[tiny rose]

I am already using this)

[forest current]

Cool, mine?

[forest current]

Stop using points more then 102

The max points are 102

If u get 103 and use it

The game will crash and the tower will reset and u will have zero points

So only use 102 points and leave the rest

[tiny rose]

No, not yours)

[forest current]

Oh lol

[tiny rose]

Mine is similar to Draco's, but with boar stance instead of horse

Yours strange tho)

[forest current]

Ty

[honest reef]

Boar stance is my favorite situational talent

You can unlock it immediately without investing any points into tiers and shield break is just a good debuff

[dapper igloo]

mmmmmmmmmm

[grim thicket]

hawk stance better

[honest reef]

you can have both

Can’t believe there are 9 stances

[quiet osprey]

Two questions:
Tiger Stance:
If one ignores 10% of toughness and the opponent has 100 toughness, for example, does this mean ineffect I do +10 damage?

Gambler: the special attack mini games are the swiping and tapping events when you initiate a Special Attack, correct? If yes, is there a way to visually confirm that the bonus percentage is being added?

[forest current]

Probably

[forest current]

And no

[quiet osprey]

No as in there is no visual indication of the % increase to your final SA %?

[smoky sentinel]

No as nobody has really any idea of what it does but nobody cares to check because precision is better anyway

[honest reef]

If gambler affected the total percentage needed for chaining minigames I would probably use it a lot more

Requiring only 70% for krushing blow specials and 60% for kl specials would be amazing

[quiet osprey]

That is the way it reads to me, it adds its percentage on top of whatever you score but I can't tell if it actuators that way.

Are you saying it doesn't and if so do you know what it is doing?

[smoky sentinel]

It doesn't, no

Just not worth investigating, precision is a better option

[quiet osprey]

What is a better investment crit chance or SP1 attack increase?

[smoky sentinel]

Crit chance

[quiet osprey]

That's what I was thinking too

[blazing violet]

should i get rapid response (10% special attack 1 damage boost) or black dragon training (17% critical hit chance)

[smoky sentinel]

Read right above

[blazing violet]

what

[smoky sentinel]

Right here

[smoky sentinel]

@silver juniper

[silver juniper]

draco you’re a legend

[finite olive]

revenant got nerfed right

[smoky sentinel]

Fixed

[finite olive]

i was about to unlock it

[forest horizon]

Just gonna mention that i used this tree and beat Ewt battle 180. ez peasy..red dragon and reverant helped. But i wonder why you chose bear stance instead of hawk. Anyway thnx alot 🤠

[forest current]

Red dragon gives resistance to the annoying debuffs

And bear gives health as well

So health plus resistance

[smoky sentinel]

Resistance to the debuffs you don't need over a resistance to every debuff in the game

[forest horizon]

Ok i will keep switching them according to enemy situation. I do use Draco preset but substituted only brutal ending coz i lack brutality atm.

[oblique basin]

anyone got a good talent tree for beating stage 175?

[smoky sentinel]

@oblique basin

[oblique basin]

Bet thx

What should I sacrifice?? I only have 67 tokens

[smoky sentinel]

Support

You should be focusing on shao kahn tower btw

Since it's the easiest tower in the game

[oblique basin]

i am focusing on it

ive just been stuck on 68 for a big

[dapper igloo]

What does gambler do? 🤔

I did not experienced anything

[smoky sentinel]

Likes to be as useless as confusing

[dapper igloo]

I tought it increases the result, but it doesn't

74% and klassik sub0 can not continue his chaining

74% x 20% = 88% which is greater then 80%

It is useless! 😂

[honest reef]

All it does is add more damage to the specials with minigames

so specials with no minigames get no bonus lol

[dapper igloo]

So increases the damage, not the result! 🤦‍♂️

[tiny rose]

So does the thunderous blow🤔

[honest reef]

thunderous blow was actually discovered to be a lot worst

It only increases the special damage of the minimum amount

[forest horizon]

Which skills to focus on for fast power regeneration

[forest current]

Special power reduction..

And the second set of talents in support gives 20% for 10 secs on tag in

And other one gives 5% always

[smoky sentinel]

Shirai ryu teachings

For extra power on crits

[oblique basin]

and the 2 that make sp1/2 use less power

[smoky sentinel]

@frozen vector

[dapper igloo]

never posted here, but i want to frickin thank netherrealm for the new way the talent tree is set, and how you can reset each point individually, making it so much easier to change tactics and not having to use souls for every refresh ❤️

[forest horizon]

True. I felt the same way. They listened. We matter

[honest reef]

All the players out there who have probably spent thousands of souls on talent tree resets

Ive only spent like 7 refreshes worth

[timber moss]

They should give back those souls tbh

[honest reef]

idk, at least 144 souls should be given

[oblique basin]

why 144 lol

[honest reef]

That’s 12 talent tree resets worth

[oblique basin]

oh

i could have sworn it was 50 souls

[smoky sentinel]

It's 12 souls/reset

[rugged nacelle]

I don't mind the souls lost. It was all for good causes that eventually brought me diamonds. 12 souls for a diamond is definitely worth it 😂

[smoky sentinel]

I may have refreshed it 3/4 times ever so no big deal for me

[oblique basin]

i wouldnt have minded the 12 souls a reset

but im very glad they added presets for talents

big help fs

[glossy veldt]

Anybody here?!

@smoky sentinel you here, bro?

[smoky sentinel]

Just ask

[glossy veldt]

They listen?! 😝

[glossy veldt]

Ah. Well, I got my first brutal set but don’t understand: brutal ending on TT let’s you do up to 3 brutalities but w/o that talent, I can only do 1 brutality if it’s on the last remaining opponent?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[glossy veldt]

Ahhhhh

Ok

[smoky sentinel]

Without talent = only last guy alive can be brutalized
With the talent = anyone can be brutalized

[glossy veldt]

I actually understand then

Thanks Draco 😊

Hmm

[smoky sentinel]

#🏯-towers-relic-hunt

[frozen vector]

He is at 15% health. Brutal endings is not working. Special combo ender not working

Any reason?

[smoky sentinel]

Do you have scorpion's brutality set equipped?

The health bar turns red when an enemy can be brutalized

[frozen vector]

Yes

[smoky sentinel]

Then it's just bad luck

Brutal ending wouldn't affect the last character anyway

[smoky sentinel]

^

[tight rover]

What are fragments used for?

[rocky lance]

you mean the purple ones?

[tight rover]

Yes

[clever pawn]

Summoning shao in his event(relic hunt)

[tight rover]

Oh okay, thanks

[sharp plover]

How much does TT matter in this tower ?
Is WPA a must ?

[grim thicket]

WPA is always a must

[sharp plover]

Should I drop brutal ending for WPA ?

[smoky sentinel]

Get both

[sharp plover]

?
So drop revenant ?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[sharp plover]

I don't have the living dead to save my bacon in the case something goes wrong.

[smoky sentinel]

Nor do i

Not like you need it

[forest current]

If u wanna save your bacon then use my tree

It has revenant

[sharp plover]

I just want a tree which is optimised for beating this tower.
Boss battles are taking WAY too many attempts

[forest current]

Fatal?

[sharp plover]

Both
7 runs on normal 170 & 190 still takes 2 attempts
200 - Takes ~ 3
Fatal: Battle 80 onwards takes minimum of 2 attempts

[quiet osprey]

Once he is summoned how do you fusion him, chance by opening packs?

[clever pawn]

The same way you summoned him, using the relics

[smoky sentinel]

Mine

[forest horizon]

If that boss is klassic liu kang then this will help it has unbreakable will (anti cripple). I made it last night

There is no one size fits all approach. Every fight is different. Eg if there is modifier that says it only takes one, you need to adjust and modify accordingly use revenant.
and death mark for if they have ressurectors like quan chi , Jason or subzero.
If there is like something where the enemies power up quickly and xray u ASAP u need xray canceller stuff like lightning blow. I hope one day ur confident to recreate urs from scratch too. I only made mine coz my game keeps crashing from my old presets that had more talent points than 100

[smoky sentinel]

I have been using my tree for every fight in every tower for the past 2 years so yeah

[forest horizon]

I bet ur sweet ass ur kards and gear are more op and fx than mine is so that's a pov variable to consider too ☠️💀 i do respect ur build, i have used it alot as well. Everyone's playstyle is also different but i did master everything u guide me to when i was new and lost 3 months ago 😃

[smoky sentinel]

No i was using the same tree when i had f1 diamonds as well

And low level golds

[viscid igloo]

Plz share elder wind tower talent?? I can’t complete 200 level😭😭😭

[viscid igloo]

@smoky sentinel plz show me your talent tree🙄

[smoky sentinel]

@viscid igloo

[forest current]

Lol I understand 🤝

[dapper igloo]

what does this do? I think I have this upgraded for no reason

[smoky sentinel]

Get rid of it and get precision

It's useless that's what it does

[dapper igloo]

It is broken, i tested it a few weeks ago, and it doesn’t increase anything.

[dapper igloo]

@dapper igloo

[dapper igloo]

lol ok

ty

[smoky sentinel]

@formal cloak

[storm pine]

Which talents are best for this team?

[smoky sentinel]

@storm pine

[storm pine]

Thanks

[tight rover]

Is it necessary to max out precision? I have mine at 20% and it seems like I get my combo enders everytime

[clever pawn]

Some characters dont get a full chance even with it maxed

So if you use that minority often its good to max it

IE Baraka, Inj Raiden, KW Sonya

[smoky sentinel]

For most characters 4/5 is the minimum suggested

[tight rover]

Alright thanks

[dense veldt]

Which is best in this

[smoky sentinel]

Hawk

Max it

[dense veldt]

Okay. What does this mean?

Remove dots?

[smoky sentinel]

When you do special attacks there's a chance to dispel dots, yes

Useless basically

[dense veldt]

Okay

[smoky sentinel]

The only talent you really need in defense is hawk stance really

[rocky lance]

damage overtime

e.g. fire, poison, bleed

[dense veldt]

What about Revenant, Shinnok's teachings?

It has saved my butt multiple times

The last two talents at the top row in defense

[hardy girder]

They are okay for beginners. But not so reliable anymore.

[rocky lance]

wasn't there talents like extra damage on burning and etc

did NRS remove it?

[hardy girder]

Each DOT had a talent made for them, and later got removed because it was a waste of talent points and slot

Instead we got a talent that boosts every DOT damage

[timber moss]

If the tsunami strike or whatever it calls (the one that allows you to hurt all the whole team with combo enders) was in other branch of the tree, could be useful?

[spiral pilot]

I have that one maxed out. It's very useful for high damage outputters such as MK11 Scorpion or a really high fusion KC Johnny

[rigid compass]

I have received a talent point for every time that I finish the final battle of shao Kahn tower. now I have total of 103 which I spent successfully... @smoky sentinel you are my witness should they ban me... I have also sent a ticket too also

[hexed bobcat]

Hi! I need help with last battle of Tower of elder Wind against NightWolf, Fujin and Shang Tsung MK11. I only have this golds maxed out: Erron, Kung Lao Shaolin, Jackie Kosplay, IX Sektor And a few VII (Klassic Sonya and Klassic Scorpion. Any advice on builds or talents? 🙏

[smoky sentinel]

Copy this^

[hexed bobcat]

I'll give it a try tanks!

thanks*

[dense veldt]

Should we use WPA even if we don't have power drainers? 👀

[smoky sentinel]

Why would you not use powerdrainers

It's like asking for slaps

[grim thicket]

maybe he dont get anyone lmao

[dense veldt]

If we don't have powerdrainers

If our strongest power drainer is F2 KCJC who won't last 2 seconds against battles which matter

I think

I think my FX NMJC is the strongest power drainer

💀

So I don't use WPA

[grim thicket]

and thats why revenant and bone shields are a bless in disguise xd

[dense veldt]

I instead use Cruel Affliction, and another fire based talent

[dense veldt]

Yeah man... I have those maxed... 😔

Wait, let me share my talent tree

Don't tell me if it's trash, it supports my team

[grim thicket]

xD

[smoky sentinel]

Crits > dots

[grim thicket]

it depends on the case illy, but mostly crits

[dense veldt]

Shinnok's teachings maxed

[dense veldt]

I have no crit gear

My main dude is MK11 Scorpion doing fire more often than crit

[smoky sentinel]

Black dragon training gives 17% base crit chance

[grim thicket]

u dont need any xd

rapid response is useless

[dense veldt]

o_o

[dense veldt]

30% SP1 boost

I use SP1 a lot

Both my strongest cards are based on SP1

[grim thicket]

on base damage, not on critics or lethals, just base damage

[dense veldt]

Yeah exactly

Base

[grim thicket]

critics are better in that way, deals more damage than 30% of sp1, exactly 150% iirc

[smoky sentinel]

You basically avoided all the good talents to get the bad ones

[dense veldt]

...

[smoky sentinel]

Best row is the mid row in attack

Base crit chance, extra crit damage, and more power from crits

[grim thicket]

use only dots in emergency cases, aka, fatal 190

[dense veldt]

Do I use Brutal ending if I have no brut set?

[grim thicket]

nope

go for deathmark

[dense veldt]

Okay

I'll use my dot tree for ass team

Then I'll change it to Draco's

Of course not using WPA and Brutal

[grim thicket]

bruv

[dense veldt]

If I get Infernal Chains then I'll use WPA fs

[dense veldt]

Ye?

[grim thicket]

max kc johnny and use wpa

[dense veldt]

Of course

But first I need to max him

[grim thicket]

even injustice raiden could work better

[dense veldt]

He's in my top priority Gold acquisition list

[dense veldt]

Don't have him

I'm new man

[grim thicket]

get him

[dense veldt]

Been 3 months barely

I have limited choice

[smoky sentinel]

@urban plank

[urban plank]

thanksssss

[dense veldt]

Why don't you pin it?

[grim thicket]

It is pinned lmao

nvm it isnt xd

[dense veldt]

Nope

[grim thicket]

but is in the guide pinned

[dense veldt]

miguera

You need glasses

[dense veldt]

But that's not Draco's tree

[smoky sentinel]

It literally is

Just an old version

[grim thicket]

Draco’s Elder God Talents: look at this general-purpose setup, courtesy of Elder God Draco, one of the moderators of the MKM Discord. It’s heavily focused on efficient, low-cost Offense.
Offense: Lion Stance1 → Precision4 → Lin Kuei Tutorage1 → Black Dragon Training3 → Shirai Ryu TeachingsM → Lightning Blow3 → Brutal EndingM.
Defense: Hawk StanceM → Stalwart DefenseM.
Support: Mongoose Stance1 → TeamworkM → Live for the Battle1 → Meditation1 → Weak Point AttacksM.

[dense veldt]

Oh nvm

It is

xd

[grim thicket]

maybe u get glasses... XD

jk

[dense veldt]

Lol

I already have glasses 👓

[grim thicket]

bro.... stelawart defense.. lmao how old is

[smoky sentinel]

Christmas 2020

[dense veldt]

+Shinnok's Teachings maxed

Is this good?

[grim thicket]

i can see revenant, but i cant see that working well, change it xd

[dense veldt]

Into what

[grim thicket]

just use hawk stance and fill support tree up to weak points attack

[dense veldt]

No

I don't have power drainer

[grim thicket]

someday u will

[dense veldt]

I need Shinnok's teachings and revenant as a noob

[dense veldt]

That day I will put WPA

But not today

Why would I possibly put WPA now if I don't use power drainers but because some day (possibly months later) I will?

I understand power drainers are important but I have limited options

I wish I had PDs

But I'm not putting WPA when I don't even have them

I'd rather have crit and bone shield and revenant

[grim thicket]

then dont use WPA, teamwork, live for battle and meditation is still good nonetheless

[dense veldt]

Then I'll have to remove all my crit based talents...

Alright

[grim thicket]

no, remove defense, revenant and shinnok bones are greatly nerfed

[dense veldt]

But they still help me a lot

[grim thicket]

no it wont, most of the time wont activate

[dense veldt]

So it's not worth keeping? Even fir noobs?

[grim thicket]

ye

[dense veldt]

Okay

What about that

Reduce damage taken from enemy

[grim thicket]

meh

only hawk stance is really good

[dense veldt]

@grim thicket

[clever pawn]

I would stop at intimidating presence

Cause I dont accept unblockable specials

Certified asspull

[grim thicket]

try and get outworld scourge

from support tree

[clever pawn]

It also neglects stuff like shuriken, royal wine, cocc and fglk, sindel mostly

[dense veldt]

Alright

[clever pawn]

Scourge might be very team dependant for a general talent advice

Kard dependant rather

[dense veldt]

Chance for SP1 to cost 0 power?

How does that work

It just shows full bar?

[grim thicket]

welp, as long as u have 1 bar and do sp1, u have a chance that ur 1 bar would be still there, so u get an extra chance to do sp1

super good if u are a sp1 spammer

and its better against maxed hats in the tower currently

[dense veldt]

Aah

I'm a SP1 spammer

Except MK11 Jade

MK11 Scorpion SP1, Piercing Mileena SP1, KL Sonya SP1, MK11 Jade SP2

These 4 are my most commonly used kards in strong, major fights

[smoky sentinel]

I used it for a while, not worth it

Better to stop at wpa

[grim thicket]

for me it works gucci

specially on sand storm when u need to deal a lot of damage before taggin out

[dense veldt]

Except I'm not gonna put WPA till I get a power drainer

[rugged nacelle]

@dense veldt What team are you running?

[dense veldt]

#🤼-characters-and-teams

[rugged nacelle]

Gimme a sec, I'll send you my tree

I don't use WPA, particularly on this tower because the equipment work by tagging in and out. Besides, snare never helped me much. I've always done better on this tree

For defense, only hawk is maxed. Sometimes I change it to rhino when I feel like I'm facing a powerful team that doesn't inflict debuffs

[dense veldt]

Yeah it's almost the same

[dense veldt]

Look

Except, I don't use Death Mark for non-resurrecting enemies

[rugged nacelle]

Use deathmark all the time. It has other functions like more incoming damage to your enemies

Prioritize offense tree. Max them all out. Hawk comes next, then horse and teamwork. After horse and teamwork, it's only a plus. You'll know when they're necessary :)

[dense veldt]

Alright!

[honest reef]

With the characters I use, spec ops tactics is just incredibly useful for some tag in strategies

especially on tremor, as he gets a 20% power generation headstart for 10 seconds

He benefits from getting both power and a good attack on tag in

[rugged nacelle]

@honest reef That's exactly what I meant when I said some are used when necessary. I also used spec ops tactic when I had to endlessly tag in and out with tremor and other stunners. Worked like a charm 😁

[winter perch]

I won the kahn tower and got another talent point, I want to add to my skill and the game crashes. is this some kind of bug or do you just have to wait patiently?

[smoky sentinel]

Don't use sny more than 102

[dense veldt]

How does he have 102?

I finished it and have only 100

[smoky sentinel]

Old tutorial

Also if you try to use more than 102 (the legal max limit) the game just doesn't let you use them

And could even reset the whole shao kahn tower and all your points

[forest horizon]

I had 106, i didn't know how and it crashed the TT page but not the sk tower. I can't use my old presets anymore. :( Or atleast downgrade a few and resave again so nobody new is at a loss there honestly. It's fair

[lilac remnant]

@smoky sentinel can u send ur tree

[smoky sentinel]

@lilac remnant

[oblique basin]

anybody have a revenant/bone shield talen tree?

and a death mark one

nvm the death mark

i would like a revenant/bone shield talen tree thou

[dense veldt]

I should really start using Revenant and Bone Shield tent tree when I'm not using MK11 Scorpion while in FW

[forest horizon]

Well I have one such build where it's heavily invested in defense and support. I switch back to default Draco when it's of no use to me so it lacks death mark

[rugged nacelle]

Offense tree is better. If you insist on using defense, I highly suggest you add that 1 missing point to Hawk Stance by taking out 1 from Red Dragon Training

Hawk protects from all debuffs. Red Dragon only from power drain and stun

[clever pawn]

You could also just not run red dragon since you got oia tech already

I find lk programming better and since it scales poorly but starts out big you dont need to neccesarily max it

[smoky sentinel]

No precision

[dense veldt]

If you want to exclude some then exclude support

[oblique basin]

thx ill add it when i get on

[oblique basin]

offensive is better but sometimes a lil reverand/bone sheild can come in handy; ressurection and survival

[smoky sentinel]

Just realized that if you play defense it's not like you care about hitting enemies so right, why bothering about precision

Defense is for when you expect the enemies to beat you up more than you can beat them up yourself

[oblique basin]

lol

[forest horizon]

Apparently it needs readjustment. Wait I'll fix it.

[oblique basin]

alr just @ me when its fixed or smt

[clever pawn]

Defense is only good for the resistances

Most dots happen just by existing so even timing everything correctly you still get robbed

But overall offense is in the best spot

Cause enemies can die

[robust sigil]

Excuse me

I need someone to help me

[clever pawn]

With what

[robust sigil]

I cant fight in battle mode

Only in events

I tried everything

I even wrote an email for support but everything they told me to do didn't help

Im playing on mobile

[rugged nacelle]

You mean the fatality bug? Yeah I heard about that, and most people would say just ignore it until it's fixed

[smoky sentinel]

Nah it's the save failed bug, being handled in general already, let's get back on topic

[rugged nacelle]

Battle mode won't provide anything for any cause other than FoS, and you can easily do that playing the first 2 towers

[dense veldt]

@smoky sentinel Have you read me DM?

[forest horizon]

So correct me if I am wrong. I hope here everyone is happy 😊 family 💕
I guess it's hybrid semi-tanky, semi heavy hitting. U can remove the support entirely as we have no WPA now. I remove red dragon and went for cyber LK programming. U can get black dragon and shirai ryu if u like buy thunderous blow cancels enemy xray for me @oblique basin

[oblique basin]

yea im prolly gonna put the rapid responce talent into black dragon

but aside from that looks good

thx

[forest horizon]

I also had changed stalwart defense to reaver armour coz it helps with quickly escaping at 1 % hp left u can then tag out and regenerate health back. If u have a healer like Dotd Kitana or kl mileena then ur all set.
Anyway i made a similar build and maxed lighting blow this time it gives 9% chance to cancel xray.

[forest horizon]

Reaver, Lab and horse stance mastered. I forgot to max hawk stance oops

[oblique basin]

ight thx

[dapper igloo]

Does this work on bosses?

[smoky sentinel]

Seems so

[oblique basin]

dats op then

[reef python]

too chance based for me, i prefer to spend it on something guaranteed

[honest reef]

and what are you spending on that’s guaranteed

[reef python]

mostly offense talents, but of course i also have some chance based talents(like hawk stance)

[honest reef]

it’s easy to get anyways, literally the first perk

[oblique basin]

maybe but u can get at least 1

quan chi ressurection counts as a death, gm s0 ressurection counts as a death and jason counts as a death

that 6 deaths

if u dont get 1, thats sa

d

[reef python]

resurrection counts fr?

hm maybe i should try with quan chi/gmsz

[clever pawn]

Worth to note its current health, its value after the first activation when the boss is full hp will drop drastically

[oblique basin]

yea for like 1-2 rounds, or each person 1-2 then normal team would be best

[oblique basin]

idk if it counts for the talent

but for "upon death gain ..." (pharo ermac, bone shapper shinoock)

its does\

[reef python]

i should try that out

[oblique basin]

i would try it

it doesnt hurt

[reef python]

yep

[dapper igloo]

What should I change?

Also hawk stance or bear?

[smoky sentinel]

Hawk >>>>>

[cold lintel]

Bruh
Bear stance is the best
Literally 25% health boost

[smoky sentinel]

Which does nothing when a single debuff can cost you the match

[smoky sentinel]

Also get rid of gambler and max precision

[dapper igloo]

Ight

[dapper igloo]

Ight

[cold lintel]

Hawk stance is a very specific talent
Which helps in very few cases
As there are very few matches where opponents give you debuff
Especially for new players
As I see you're level 31

Bear stance will help you in all matches
As it basically increases your health

[smoky sentinel]

Hawk stance literally helps in every match

And debuff resistance stacks

Health doesn't do anything against things like stun or cripple

Which can cost you the match in seconds no matter how much health you have

[dapper igloo]

Y'all can settle this and then tell me @smoky sentinel @cold lintel

[smoky sentinel]

Nothing to settle, just get hawk stance

Any veteran could tell you that bear is useless under every aspect

[dapper igloo]

[cold lintel]

You do you
I've tried both
And Bear has been helpful to me
You try both as well hriday
See which one helps you more

[smoky sentinel]

Health just will never help more than being able to resist things that can kill you instantly

[rugged nacelle]

Hawk stance. Debuff resistance over health. Debuff protects you from debuffs and DOTs while bear offers nothing but extra health that debuffs and DOTs can easily take down

[clever pawn]

Bear makes you die a second later

Value

[dense veldt]

25% is pretty huge

[thin nova]

i think we can make a compromise. for higher skilled players, hawk is definitely the choice the go. for lower-skilled players, bear can be useful in lots of situations.

[clever pawn]

No

I think you dont get that what affects veterans affects new players even more

If anything

More hp could actually make some of difference on maxed kards

Low fused ones are gonna die in basically the same amount of time

[shut brook]

Bear stance is useless against dots since they deal %max hp dmg, while even 20% debuff resistance can save you from a dangerous enemy

[hardy girder]

And health increase from support card is increased, so Bear stance is more obsolete

[shut brook]

Yeah, 33% against 25%

[dapper igloo]

Can anyone just give me a talent tree with 30 tokens?

[austere oasis]

Does the lightning blow work on bosses and how we know it worked?

[hardy girder]

The text will pop up, and it can work on bosses

[austere oasis]

I see , i just dont pay attention to text

[honest reef]

15% for a mini cripple that disables xray/fatal blow is nice

[smoky sentinel]

Saved my ass multiple times

[honest reef]

I actually didn’t know that it disables the entire team’s specials until you told me, I just assumed it was a bug kinda like deathmark passing over

helps a lot when you ko an opponent with a special and tremor shows up expecting to stun loop

[mystic warren]

defendsive talent tree please?

[rugged nacelle]

Hawk stance is the only good one and recommended for every tree

[forest horizon]

Get cyber LK program (1), revenant (max), shinnok (max). This tree is recommended for SK tower instances where modifier is It takes only one to get knocked out and match ends if one of ur teammate dies. U can tag out at low health this way and recover hp back

[mystic warren]

Ok thanks

[mystic warren]

but any survivor tree talent recommend?

[naive stump]

Non on support? Why

[forest horizon]

@naive stump @mystic warren i did make this one earlier but they're saying it's not worth compensating for attack build u can try this one

[forest horizon]

My build for very fast xray

[glossy veldt]

@smoky sentinel I need some help. I’m confused w/ my TT presets. I have 2 presets almost identical but 1 seems to have more tokens used. You don’t think it could be a bug?

[smoky sentinel]

How would i know

[glossy veldt]

I’ll send a pic?

Maybe you can see something I’m missing

You haven’t heard of any weird TT bugs?

@smoky sentinel it says the points I spent are equal for defense but I have only 1 talent swapped.

[smoky sentinel]

No

[smoky sentinel]

The amount of points is the same in both what

[glossy veldt]

1 point in stalwart def or maxed intimidating presence

[smoky sentinel]

Check the bar at the bottom...

[glossy veldt]

I musta opened another level

Oh mannn. I musta missed that

[glossy veldt]

I think when I reset the talents, I didn’t notice the bar part. Ty buddy

[glossy veldt]

You only use 1 TT setup for towers and survivor?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[dapper igloo]

@blazing violet ^

[blazing violet]

I’ll try it

[reef python]

no revenant huh?

guess i should reset my talents too since i’m not playing survival

[dapper igloo]

rev and bone shield are useless bruh

[reef python]

only use them in survival, haven’t changed it back

[dapper igloo]

• you dont even get hit once if you do a proper stun loop

[reef python]

i should get some support talents literally have none lmao

[dapper igloo]

yah

[blazing violet]

There are 2 support trees

Which one do i use?

Oh nvm

[reef python]

this should be good

[dapper igloo]

@blazing violet It's 1 support just 2 screenshots cuz i couldnt fit it in one

@reef python Why attack?

why deathmark

[reef python]

critical bit chance and crit damage

death mark for resurrection

[dapper igloo]

yes use dm for only those battles so save that preset, but for bosses, i dont recommend upgrading much in attack

because they heal from crits

[reef python]

yea this just my main talent, already got a preset ready for bosses

[dapper igloo]

okie

[austere oasis]

@smoky sentinel these are not chances and my fav

[smoky sentinel]

The only good one there is teamwork and meditation

[austere oasis]

Well i like them and it helps

Cruel affliction can realy be life change if you have mk11 scorpion F0 with help of some equipment

[smoky sentinel]

Crits are always better than dot talents

[austere oasis]

For me i pass the towers with that way

It takes only one ES

They just melt

[polar nexus]

can someone send good defense talent tree

[dapper igloo]

Centered is good on some characters, where the power is very important to chains. Every cards who can apply stun on sp1 or klassik rain.

And we have presets now!

Easy to change

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah centered is good, used to use it too, but there are better options

[rugged nacelle]

I prefer Edenia's champion over Centered for sp2. It never disappointed me while centered was never useful to me 😅

[clever pawn]

I liked centered with old teammwork

Now it just feels like it fell off

[dapper igloo]

You can use Both, we have presets now.

[oblique basin]

giveme

give me rn

😭

[austere oasis]

I am waiting SRT to max it 😊

[oblique basin]

i just want one for the brutalty aspect for my mk11 scorp

[austere oasis]

Wait with me then

[oblique basin]

i am

[mystic warren]

what the heck did i just saw

[shadow shore]

Does snare activate if I use the triborg team? Mainly if I use sz tri sp1?

[lone knoll]

Yes

Why do ppl use sp's but use only half of the piwer, for example someone uses sp 2 but spents only half of the power

[grim thicket]

it do depends on the ocassion

or situation

[lone knoll]

Nah

[shadow shore]

It’s gears or talent

I have it

[lone knoll]

Talent?

[shadow shore]

Uhhh gimme a sec

[lone knoll]

This can be used as an example

[grim thicket]

Oh that...

[lone knoll]

He spents half of the power on his sp 1

[shadow shore]

It’s in the support section

[smoky sentinel]

That's what sp2 reduction equipments do

[lone knoll]

This?

I have that

But doesnt happen to me

[shadow shore]

It’s chances

[smoky sentinel]

Because it's equipments

No

[lone knoll]

Oh

[shadow shore]

Lmfao

I got it twisted

[smoky sentinel]

50% sp2 reduction is an effect of equipments

Like soul medallion

[lone knoll]

Can u get silver scorp from silver pacj

[smoky sentinel]

Or rusty chainsaw

Yes of course you can but how that relate to the tt

[shadow shore]

^

[shadow shore]

So this is true right?

[lone knoll]

Ok

Yes cuz its power drain

So it counts

[grim thicket]

yes, wpa works on triborgs aswell

[shadow shore]

Ooooooo

Niceeee

Gonna do some tests

[grim thicket]

injustice raiden has the best way to do it

[lone knoll]

Should i buy smoke triborg to get him to fusion 2 or open skarlet pack

[shadow shore]

Skarlet pack

[grim thicket]

skarlet pack, never buy a challenge gold

[lone knoll]

Oh ok

Even if its kc johnny?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[shadow shore]

Nice

It does work

Gonna help me for towers with a team I’m using

[rugged nacelle]

@hollow junco This tree (and max hawk) would be the tree I'd use for the team I recommended for you

[hollow junco]

@rugged nacelle Thanks a lot. Right now change it to this

[rugged nacelle]

Good luck. Make sure you also check what's the best character to support your scorpion alongside smoke. You have plenty of options. Hellspawn Scorpion is also good cause he gives lots of power at the start. Good luck and tag me tomorrow after you start fighting! 🥁

[hollow junco]

Oh, Yeah, Indeed, Hellspawn Scorpion. Maybe will go with him instead of Shinok.

[hollow junco]

I will let you know tomorrow how it goes

@rugged nacelle I guess the game want to show me this Tremor is not so bad as I think. 🙂

[dense veldt]

Pretty damn similar to mine

[compact shard]

can someone explain this to me please?

also, is O.I.A tech better than this?

[clever pawn]

Its pretty self explanatory, power drained against you is reduced

Quite noticeable on block

[dapper igloo]

Waste of Talent points imo

[clever pawn]

I used it back when attack tree was a joke

And support only had teamwork worth putting points into

[smoky sentinel]

@unkempt tusk

[unkempt tusk]

ty

[lone knoll]

Does this help skarlets healing?

[smoky sentinel]

Yes

[oblique basin]

i only buy the 1st one, after that its bad

[naive jay]

What’s the best Stance for Offense?

[smoky sentinel]

Lion

[remote narwhal]

Which one next ? 🤔

[smoky sentinel]

You can take some points off lion stance

And go for the crit talents in attack

[remote narwhal]

Lin kuei ?

And I will give 1 point to lion and max lin kuei right ?

[smoky sentinel]

First get all the talents you need then use the extra points on them

Yes lion to 1

[remote narwhal]

Okk

[naive jay]

I love Outworld Scourge

[dapper igloo]

@naive jay I suggest using this talent tree if you have a good stun loop team

[reef python]

outworld scourge can be a game changer when doing tremor stun loop

[dapper igloo]

Yepp

[lone knoll]

AGAIN

-2 talent points

[lone knoll]

Bruh what

What is happening

Why does that happen

[smoky sentinel]

Because you're adding 5 when there's already one in the bar below

So the extra one directly goes in the tree

[dark talon]

It doesn't happen for me

[smoky sentinel]

Your extra one is added to the bar below

Ok well i don't know then

[dapper igloo]

You alr had one, you gotta add 4 instead of 5

@lone knoll just reset the whole thing and try again or just add 4 instead of 5. a 4 year old can identify the issue cmon now

[lone knoll]

💀 💀 💀 💀

Nah bro didnt realize, its not like i recorded it just to show it

[forest horizon]

When u reset the whole tree, how much talent points do u have by default rn

[forest horizon]

Meanwhile i have no idea why this happens. A mystery. I'm forced to reset talents and build new tree coz it won't let me input further talents that were previously maxed

[wicked ermine]

Does the tremor stun loop still work? I thought it was debugged

[rocky lance]

tremor's SP1 doesn't stun anymore

[wicked ermine]

Awww

[rocky lance]

RIP SP1 Stun

[wicked ermine]

Till the next happy bug comes

[hallow trout]

havent seen any bug in our favor this update

[cobalt tiger]

Yup, I can confirm, talent tree is messed up

Everytime I switch to another preset, it is always minus smth

[gilded zephyr]

whats a good defence talent tree?

[reef python]

tbh u don’t rly need anything in defense other than hawk stance

[reef python]

here what i use for survival

[gilded zephyr]

exactly what i needed

thank you

[gilded zephyr]

what do you use for offense? and why dont u put anything on support

[reef python]

i don’t use support for survival cuz it doesn’t benefit me. Offense i max out black dragon training and the one that gives crit damage

normally i use support just not in survival

[honest reef]

offense has a lot of basic talents that help out a lot

precision, lin kuei tutorage, and black dragon training

after that if you can afford it, deathmark is just a good expense

im glad they gave it a use out of bypassing resurrection

[forest horizon]

Thanks

[rocky lance]

WHOA WHAT

never seen 2 billion talent points hahaha

[grim thicket]

WHAT

[honest reef]

now that’s funny

[grim thicket]

the game really is goin down to hell bugs

[rugged nacelle]

You have the power of the elder elder gods

[smoky sentinel]

Yeah don't touch them

Like, at all

And contact support to report the bug

That's the equivalent of having a plastic bomb strapped on you

[rocky lance]

mortal bugbat mobile kkkkkkkkkk

[smoky sentinel]

That's it i'm repaying them with their own medicine

[honest reef]

you have turned to the dark side

that "30%" and "20%" chance did numbers to you huh

[smoky sentinel]

Gonna use it only while i'm in survivor

Rest of the time i have the attack tree

So nobody has to worry about facing revenant on me

[clever pawn]

I treasure intimidating and cyber lk from time to time

Hate getting my block broken by asspulls specials, and not losing 30%+ hp to a random mk11 scorp who didnt do crap to earn the dots

[honest reef]

i get so depressed when my cos liu and quan team get poisoned so I just max out lk programming when I use them

[leaden lagoon]

Yuhhh Draco

[shut brook]

oh no, you've become the very thing you swore to destroy..... shame

[smoky sentinel]

Still think they're useless

Revenant triggered only once

[reef python]

that once can still save u in survival tho

can’t remember the last time i played survival without revenant lmao

[rocky lance]

I've seen it trigger twice in 1 card and i was super tilted

[hallow trout]

That shouldn’t be possible

[forest current]

That's impossible

[rocky lance]

not like it reactivated after the 1st one ended, more like it double stacked

[neat coral]

What is a good tt in this time of the game

[smoky sentinel]

Mine

Not the defense one

The good one

@neat coral

[neat coral]

Oh ight

[floral lake]

Can anyone share me their different talent tree setups ?

[grim thicket]

Try that

[slate frigate]

They reset our talent tree?

[reef python]

yes, also team preset names reset

[slate frigate]

Arg.. I got to work my way up doing shao kahn tower again for the points…

[reef python]

points still there, just tree reset

[slate frigate]

Edit nvm didn’t see the points
I got scared for a second

[reef python]

lol, if that rly happened just submit a ticket

[slate frigate]

And I thought 102 was glitched maxed

[reef python]

u can earn more but can’t spend

i’ve done 7 runs lol

sometimes the extra 103rd point disappears

doesn’t seem to be the case for me anymore

[shut brook]

102 is legit for old players

[reef python]

i’m new tho lol

[shut brook]

Yeah, you should contact support

[reef python]

i’m fine having 102 points in my tree lol

[shut brook]

You might be at risk with 104 points

[reef python]

i don’t ever spend 104

cuz it just crashes

102 works fine for me

[timber moss]

@smoky sentinel I'm gonna need your tree again ;-;

[smoky sentinel]

^

[stable pollen]

Perfect

[smoky sentinel]

Precision at one, bear stance instead of hawk, maxed savagery and no deathmark
What to say...

[stable pollen]

Death Mark may be a useful talent, but I'm not particularly eager to spend at LEAST 6 talent points on it. Hawk - is not the most useful skill for me. maxed savagery - for more effective damage

[reef python]

savagery only gives u more power on the one particular attack that broke the block, not the full combo

ur only getting 30% more power from one hit

[stable pollen]

There are no more interesting or useful talents in this column, so this one has been upgraded.

[reef python]

precision?

[stable pollen]

Saveregy

[rugged nacelle]

Try this. Full offense melts all teams faster than my grades dropping

[honest reef]

I feel like you can move 4 points from lion stance

[honest reef]

Not gonna say anything about edenia’s champion?

10% btw

also if you didn’t know yet, rapid response and thunderous blows only affects the MINIMUM damage of the special, someone tested it

[honest reef]

it literally says it right there

you tried to overspend but it’s the last tier

put 1 in

if you try to put more than the bar at the bottom, the points go to the next bar

however since there’s no more bar, you cannot do that option

all you gotta do is put 1 in since that’s how many u need to unlock final skills

[umbral vale]

Bruh I didn’t use 4 talents I always use 5

But yes it did work

[slate frigate]

What is going on with talent tree it was reset again. This is the second time in patch 3.7.1

[smoky sentinel]

Everything resets alongside the daily trials now

[slate frigate]

I hope they fix this soon because this is really annoying to set Up every time

[soft siren]

Is a good idea to go full offense for this tower? I had no problems against bosses so I might try it

No energies to think in my own tt setup 😂

[rugged nacelle]

Why?

[honest reef]

idk because it’s not that influential, it’s 4% more basic attack

[rugged nacelle]

It increases the total attack stats of my characters. My mk11 sub0 gains 10k attack with it. It's 1 of the most helpful stats

Besides, nowhere else to put points anyways 🤣

[late knot]

yikes u couldve lost a bet @rocky lance xd

[rocky lance]

told you so

[hallow trout]

103???

[late knot]

lol

[copper aspen]

They need to hurry up and fix this..getting tired of setting it up every day🤬😡🤯😵‍💫

it’s getting old real fast..

[smoky sentinel]

Someone didn't read #announcements

[tawdry edge]

💀

Rip 6 presets hopefully #soon they'll fix it

[midnight frost]

#soon they'll fix it

[sudden yacht]

#devslaughing

[drowsy harness]

Does it cost souls to redo the talent tree?

[smoky sentinel]

No

[drowsy harness]

So I won't be losing out on souls if my tree gets reset?

[smoky sentinel]

Yep

[drowsy harness]

Cool, thanks.

[sharp plover]

I can't even save new presets.
Everyday it gets reset.
So annoying, when is the patch coming ?

[rocky lance]

after the release of HL3

[shell kite]

Is this normal

[honest reef]

ive actually never seen anyone use the home button to go back to main menu

press back and see if it changes anything

[shell kite]

K

Nope

Still does it

[honest reef]

dang

[smoky sentinel]

Try to close the game directly and restart instead of going home

[reef python]

nah never seen that

[shell kite]

Still does it after closing game

[honest reef]

game says you have 0 points before loading the preset, maybe it got bugged somehow?

[shell kite]

It says 0 points but when i put one in it says 102 again

[honest reef]

then try manually putting the skill tree in again and press back, other than that it's just a total mystery

[shell kite]

K

I manually put them and it reset

[honest reef]

there's like 2 other people I know that have this problem and this is probably the worst of the bugs

[shell kite]

man

[fair ether]

Can anyone show me what is the smartest thing to do with my talent Tree ?

[rugged nacelle]

Works with every team. 0 disappointments

Clears challenges faster than the speed of light

And makes sp1 users elder elder gods

[reef python]

lotta offense

[grim thicket]

ill just lower some talents at attack to reach weak points attack and outworld scourge, just so i can spam way more sp1s, and also, shirai ryu teachings goes bye bye and cruel affliction joins in, so i can abuse the mk11 scorpion and dots power, id say, balanced, and for any ocassion

[clever pawn]

Dots and any occasion dont go together

[grim thicket]

if you like to use mk11 scorpion a lot, u can fight any battle you can, unless is mk11 jade or raiden shows up

and for johnny, the support section is really fully for him

so i cover 2 ocassions that repeats most of the time

Something like this

[rugged nacelle]

Not sure about this tree but I'd go for centered over out world scourage, especially if I'm using meditation

[grim thicket]

why centered?

[rugged nacelle]

Just how I like it 😂

[rugged nacelle]

Because it works all the time. Outworld scourage only offers a chance for it to cost nothing. Meditation + centered makes it cost less all the time

[grim thicket]

oh because u have other cards to use, outworld scourge works for me because im a sp1 spamer and most of the time i use only 1 and dont need the others to do anything...

[rugged nacelle]

I don't rely on chances. Always on the guaranteed stuff. It's why I find it better

[rugged nacelle]

No. I used that one when I was barely above f5 on golds 😂

I tried both. Out world scourage never worked for me. Centered was much better. I used both on dark Queen and centered was better when I relied on scorpion sp1 spam

[grim thicket]

i dont get always outworld scourage, but when i do i can just spam the sp1 again before the enemy starts his combo, thats y i value it more, gives 2nd chances

And centered dont refund all, so u have to get back some of it by combo again

[reef python]

i love outworld scourge, chained kotal sp1 9 times cuz of it lmao

[brisk plover]

which should i try to max first? offense, defense or support?

[honest reef]

offense

[magic meadow]

That's a matter of preference. I have 5-6 talent tree presets. Offensive tower tree, defensive tree for more hp, defensive tree for resistance. Even one tree for dot team. It's like a tree for every game mode.

[oblique basin]

what happened to all my presets? i went camping for a week, came back and they were all gone

[brisk plover]

gone, reduced to atoms
nrs taking 6 days to fix it

[oblique basin]

alr thx

[smoky sentinel]

What

[grim thicket]

109

[smoky sentinel]

Which i don't have

I resetted and I was at 102 like normal

[short glen]

The update is about resetting talents and equipment everyday?

[grim thicket]

yes

[reef python]

basically they boost ur team

like health boost, attack boost

things like that

work for ur full team

[glad girder]

-7 lmao

[glad girder]

Yeah they’re looking for a fix, it also resets equipment

[rugged nacelle]

@last urchin Your tree is not helping you at all. Heres a pure offense tree that'll crush your opponent in less than a minute. It's very good for sp1 users so perfect for your Johnny cages

[dapper igloo]

With this setup the rest of the tower should be easy?

[rugged nacelle]

Give the best tower gear and offensive weapons to your 2 Johnny cages only. Spam sp1 to drain their power as much as possible. You can do this

[dapper igloo]

Yeah jhonnys have the best gear kc 1st then sd

I have good tower gear so far tbh

[rugged nacelle]

Yes. I only change it during boss battles because of my personal playing style but this tree is good for all set ups

[dapper igloo]

I use ermac for bosses

Ill read those talents again to figure out what makes yours better and ill try it when i get more battles😩

[rugged nacelle]

If you want, you can use weak spot attacks to snare when using power drain. The talents you can take out are 4 from lion stance, 4 from lin luei tutorage and 2 from meditation

[dapper igloo]

Okay

[rugged nacelle]

It's because it's purely offense

[dapper igloo]

I like wak points alot tbh

[rugged nacelle]

You go full offense, you finish faster

[dapper igloo]

Snares make it easy to deny healing

[rugged nacelle]

Then use the same tree but remove from those 3 I told you about. You'll have a perfect tree with weak spots attacks

[dapper igloo]

Okay ill try it tomorow

Thank you

[rugged nacelle]

This tree, use it if you don't have power drainers. Use the other with power drainers. Perfect tree for everybody

[dapper igloo]

Okay

[rugged nacelle]

You're welcome bro. Tag me and tell me how it goes

[dapper igloo]

Yeah sure

@rugged nacelle lightning blows make no sense for me right?

With all the power drains they wont get any sp anyway no?

[rugged nacelle]

It makes perfect sense. Lightning blow strikes the entire opponent team. In short, you kill someone, the incoming enemy will have their power disabled until you power drain them again

[dapper igloo]

Okay

[rugged nacelle]

Usually the final opponent will spam sp atks. You can only power drain the enemy you're fighting, not others. Besides, the other 2 talents suck so you don't have much of a choice 😂

[dapper igloo]

Okay

[reef python]

y teamwork? U use xray a lot?

[honest reef]

teamwork is refund power to team

[reef python]

oh wait on special too

hm might give it a try

[tepid flax]

Guys anyone use the method set up a talent tree and save it preset when it refreshes go to manage talent tree press on ya preset bring it back with out re doing it

[reef python]

yes

[tepid flax]

Saves a lot of time wasting until they fix it

[reef python]

yup

[rough kernel]

what kind of focus should I go for if my characters are under level and I’m trying to brute force the twisted tower

(defense/offense/support)

[reef python]

offense and support

mostly offense

hawk is all u need for defense

[rough kernel]

ok let me send some screenshots

just give me some general advice given my characters

have MK11 scorp, balanced kenshi, and gunslinger erron as my primary tower pushing team

[reef python]

only use hawk for defense

max out precision

max meditation

use shirai ryu teachings or thunderous blows if u use sp2 a lot

[rough kernel]

okok slow down

offense first

lion stance > precision is fine?

or wait do I go tiger stance because of my characters being under level

@reef python

[reef python]

1 point in lion

[rough kernel]

Aight

Just walk me through offense step by step

rapid, black dragon, or exposing @reef python

[reef python]

black dragon for sure

[jade oak]

Suggest a build for me pls i have 20 talent points

[rough kernel]

cruel affliction or shirai

[reef python]

id say shirai

cruel affliction if ur playing dots

[jade oak]

@reef python

[reef python]

hawk stance maxed

[reef python]

1 point in lion, max precision

[rough kernel]

alright here’s what I got now

sorry I'm almost done haha @jade oak

[reef python]

looks good

[rough kernel]

cool

[reef python]

nah dw i can help u both

[rough kernel]

oh 3rd column in support

is that the best

or what else

[reef python]

lmaoo i forgot what the first and third even do

live for battle is power refund i think

[rough kernel]

nah 10%

xray reduction

cost

[reef python]

oh u don’t need that

[rough kernel]

warlock is regen and life drain boost

yeah thats what i thought

[reef python]

yeah it’s good

[rough kernel]

maybe warlock's spells is good?

since scorpion has vamp chance on combo ender

from weekend dad

[reef python]

it’s just one point so it doesn’t matter too much imo

[rough kernel]

trure

[jade oak]

I have 7 more

What next

[rough kernel]

lin kuei teachings or stranglehold

depending on your characters

I have mk11 scorpion so stranglehold is nuts